Alex Murdaugh Juror Z's Conflicting Statements: Deep Dive
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Juror Z is the only person to testify that the guilty verdict in Alex Murdaugh's murder trial was influenced by Clerk of Court Becky Hill. However, in Murdaugh's evidentiary hearing for a new trial, Juror Z also said their verdict was influenced by other jurors.
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News ! SC legalized Jury Tampering 2024 !
Juror Z clearly succumbs to peer pressure in all settings, so she really needs to stay anonymous and NEVER serve on a jury again.
I thought the exact same thing. Not a good jury member because she sounds like someone that can't think for herself.
she was coached by mccllough her attorney AND MURDAUGH corrupt friend
Really? That’s your concern? The court clerk tampered with the jury and then lied on the stand. Juror Z said she was swayed by the clerk and the jury, the judge purposely asked a leading question that she did not understand. He’ll get a new trial, it will just take a few years. They are clearly corrupt down there.
Exactly!
It was a difficult case. I think they were all exhausted and wanted it to be over. Can’t judge really we weren’t in the jury box.
Interesting that the only juror that testified they were "affected" is represented by poots long time friend.
She has overseas $ waiting for her.
in the end it results in a hung jury....alex still a scum bag....
Yeah they all are corrupt! Not just the murdaugh’s!
That goes both ways.
They want to keep the trials going as long as the murdaugh family has any money left!
Juror Z should be excused from serving on a jury ever again. She readily admits to being too easily influenced by other jurors, or clerks, or whichever way the wind blows. For our system to work, we need jurors who think critically and make up their own minds.
Was she the black lady that was mistakenly shown?
@@caterinascarcellaNo
I infer Juror Z is both dumb & lacking critical thinking skills.
@caterinascarcella nope she was white like yourself 🙄
@@caterinascarcellano!
The circumstances around "Juror Z" coming forward are shady at the least, but probably criminal at most. Those lawyers should be thoroughly investigated. They're clearly playing "good ol' boys" tricks here
Been doing it for decades in that county. Typical Murdaugh family dirty behavior.
@@PilatesbyGina I bet you this all came out of murdaugh brain!!
Which lawyers are you referring to??
I don't think Juror Z was the first person to come forward. My understanding was that it was an alternate who first blew the whistle.
It really bothers me that they say they discovered all this by knocking on jurors' doors. I feel like that's harassment.
Dick and his buddy Joe clearly didn't coach her well enough. Her lack of clarity came from her own mouth.
Bingo
Joe had a heart attack several days before this hearing I think. So he wasn't as available
He was in court. The judge spoke to him and said he ought to be home.
And then they tried to fix it later with another affidavit her lawyer wrote at lunch, but was told "she doesn't get another kick at the can" lol
Jurors don't get 2 bites at the apple. They make their decision, swear to it, and that's it.
If she cannot keep her own mind during deliberations, then that is her own crisis of confidence.
It's called peer pressure and it's why the jury system is ridiculous. Also lets not forget she didn't ask to be on a jury, the government forces people to serve.
The more Juror Z met with Alex's attorneys the more her story changed. The judge was right to throw out her testimony.
Exactly!
Exactly and we don't know what kinds of leading questions they asked her and pressure they applied. Had Harpootlian not met with Juror Z we would never have heard her flip flop. She had her chance to change her verdict when she was polled.
Tricky Dicky should stop riding down so many dirt roads and banging on doors. Juror Z can’t think for herself!!
How do you think the Appeals court will rule ?
Judge is a coward. To afraid to go against the judge who let Becky Hill run the show.. They’re all in the same club & will never make each other look bad. Appeals court will throw out this conviction & rightfully so. AM is guilty , the evidence is there..Convict him again, remove all doubt & restore the integrity to the court.
it is possible to influenced by others in the jury room, that's legal, but at the end of the day you are the deciding factor for yourself when saying guilt or innocence.
Say it louder please.
Mr harpootlian makes it sound like juror Z is so easily led that she has to be reassured by the judge that it’s ok to tell the truth. Makes me wonder if she was trying to say what Murdaugh’s lawyers wanted to hear when they talked to her.
I wonder how much are they paying her for playing the manipulate juror
I smell a couple of rats😢
This juror is compromised, she should have raised this at the verdict reading when the jury was polled on the verdict. He testimony is unreliable, there for her original vote stands. She shows a total lack of firmness of contentions now, very unconvincing.
Juror Z is represented by harpootlian’s best buddy. How is that not a conflict of interest?
All one gang
Of course her lawyer files an affidavit to protect her from lying under oath and the obvious fact that she has changed her story over 6 months later
It was influenced by Dick and Jim, who paid her or promised her something. Her statements had a lot of inconsistencies much like Becky.
Lol they bought this juror and still didn't manage to get a new trial😂
Lol typical 🤣
You believe they bout this jouror. The ones that also stated Becky hill said inappropriate things to them, both backup jurors, and the head of the clerk courts organization?
I agree 💯!!!
This juror is as shady as Harpootlien and her lawyer- glad the judge is honest and not to be taken for a fool.
@@gigis6790Definitely!! Love this no nonsense judge!! Poot thought he was going to manipulate this judge but she wasn’t having any of it! Love Attorney Eric Bland, also!!
Stop costing the state so much 💰 money this is a waste time as well as money 💰 🤑
Influence by Jurors is Called Deliberations.
Joe McCulloch and juror Z and egg lady started this whole circus. Back in March we had no complaints to the judge about Becky Hill, and a unanimous verdict each juror stood by at the time.
Becky Hill was writing her book and knowingly plagiarized content. Becky Hill had no humility on the stand, just arrogance.
True, but Becky Hill ain't helping her own case here by acting like a nut bar on the stand. Entirely inappropriate.
Joe McCullough seems a shady lawyer since the beginning.
She all of the sudden couldn’t remember?? Stop it!!
justice toal is a legend.. thank you for not giving alex murdaugh another trial.. he deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life. rip maggie and paul!! judge newman who sat on the bench for murdaugh trial is another outstanding human being!!
I am not sure the "both ways" counts, either. If Becky Hill caused juror Z to decide unwillingly to convict, there would be no need for the other jurors to have convinced an "unsure" juror after the fact during deliberations. It was a timeline, and the jury in deliberation was the last people to influence someone who was still undecided. Becky Hill, as bad as she was, didn't walk into jury deliberations and push her to vote guilty.
🎯 I think Juror Z was more influenced by Poot and Grift, (💰) not by Becky Hill and ultimately that's what this trial was about. I don't even think she was influenced by the other Jurors. I think they came knocking on her door and either 1.) offered her something good to change her story or 2.) Threatened her with the power they can hold over her if she didn't. Both seem like such creepy slime balls to me. Especially Harpootlian. That being said, if Becky Hill was writing that book during the trial, and passing out media business cards and whatnot, I think she should be fired. That's not professional in any way. I just don't believe everything they tried to convince us of that she did. I did find her to be a liar though. I just don't think she tried to influence the jury.
Poot and Grift !! Lol😂
thinks poot & grif's dirt road ambush while the not so bright dirt roader cooked sunday dinner juror INFLUENCED ms Z more than ANYTHING . - doesn't seem legit for these 2 slime ball SUITS and their affidavit ''writer'' intimidate a juror after the fact ...........POoT is an obnoxious bully , pompous arrogant a$$clown who won't shut up - can't imagine his inntimidation without some kind of judicial ''referee .on a juror.......was legit ........For their whatever to write up their point of view . The juror z didn't write / sign any statement /affidavit at the time that improper sunday . .......Her 2 statements were concocted by poot & another lawyer then presented to Z to sign . ON THE STAND actually testifying she had NOTHING to say really ''don't remember'' PERIOD........... other than yes she signed the 1st then 2ND rewritten poot papers ...........according to Z she thought becky thought alec guilty and WAS PRESSURED BY OTHER JURORS DURING DELIBERATION . UHHHHH yuh think she was pressured by POOT when he surprised her that sunday .....??????????????????????...... 'Z' was an unprotected victim of POOT ............ Defense lawyers should not be able to hunt down jurors AFTER A LOSS without some kind of ''referee '' to protect the juror from intimidation . THREATS , or promises ..............who knows ????????? Z 's actual testimony to justice toal was beyond NOT convincing ...... my take was she wasn't sure - thought everybody else believed alec guilty and was PRESSURED BY JURORS DURING DELIBERATION ie her decision wasn't made because of ANYTHING becky inferred -it was made and determined by the pressure by the jurors DURING DELIBERATION ....... just like she was pressured by poot ............ imo alone with poot & co was wayyyyyyyyyyy more pressure than this poor dummy could manage ALONE ...............
Exactly, if she was influenced by Becky why the other jurors had to pressure her? if she already was influenced by Becky there would be no need for pressure maybe slight convincing but not pressure!
I was a little shocked when she spoke. At first my guts wrenched, thinking he’s going to get a new trial. I am so glad the judge denied the retrial. Not over, but I think money is being wasted on this case.
Wasted money is every lawyer's favorite kind of money
@@cvolante8032, the real waste of money is the state's bringing the murder case against Alex Murdaugh ("AM") in the first place.
AM is innocent OF THE MURDERS; the Prosecution knew it; that is why they asked Becky Hill to tamper with the jury to get a wrongful conviction and that is why they are now protecting Becky Hill no matter what wrongs she does.
Indeed, the judge's own ruling is a sophisticated way of saying EXACTLY that: the system will forgive everything you do, however bad, so long as you help getting "the bad guy" framed.
@@cvolante8032absolutely
I believe that the court is over this man!!!! I love Judge Toal and her no nonsense approach even putting Poot in his place, she is a LEGEND!!!! 🙏🇦🇺
Juror Z didn't follow their script so they wanted another chance. Justice Toal stopped that. Good for her.
She’s saying she was ‘influenced’ but it’s not like she was threatened.. she seemed free to vote ‘not-guilty’ 🤷🏻♀️
This is very sus
Hes guilty no 2 ways about this😮
There is no problem about her being influenced by another juror, that's all in the ruff and tumble of the jury room.
This is how they conduct themselves in that part of SC and how the murdaughs were able to run amuck for YEARS!!! Shame on all if them
Yup. Unless you have lived in that area and know how a family like the murdaughs can run the entire town for decades, you would never understand the depth of their reach. He will exhaust his money and connections until justice has run its course. Even threatening a juror is not out of the question for him.
Exactly
Yes same as Lexington SC good ol boys who cheat their clients and are from old local families. Someone needs to stop them because it effects the innocent or those who need good representation.
I think she was paid off!
I agree!!
Yep! Paying with some of that hidden, stolen money!
I’m with you.
I think the same. She’s lying.
Yup, for sure. Nice backfire for their dishonesty
How many times are you going to let jurors Z change her story ? There are now Three different stories from her🤷🏻♀️
Yes the truth will come out. The truth will probably look like this…. Juror z winds up with a well paid job at Harpootlians office and is driving a fancy car.
Those two defense attorneys are as slimy as they come.
LMAO and the fancy car paid for with some of that $ Murdaugh stole from his clients. 😂😂😂
Wait??!! What??!! Y'all are really missing the point here. Yeah Murtaugh prob did it and he's a slime ball...
The whole point of this is that this moronic clerk thinks pretty highly of herself that she thinks it's ok to go directly against judges orders, not to mention her oath, and do whatever the hell she feels like it. What she did is criminal and her arrogant self needs to face jail time but at the very least removed from office. I have to ask how many other trials did she influence the outcome. How many other of her job duties did she cheat on. Yes...his attorneys are prob crooked as can be but it sickens me, as someone who works in the legal field and has served on a jury or two as well as a Grand Jury...I can't imagine any court staff speaking to me...they all kept their distance. Everyone is forgetting that his attorneys are not on trial here but lil miss Hill should be. The things she did and said were blatant and she did and said them rights under the courts nose with no fear of any repercussions which leads me to believe it's second nature and she knows she will not be held accountable so it's not her first time breaking the rules. I don't think many of those commenting are understanding the gravity of what she did. JMO
😂 you're right
Juror Z is having buyers remorse and second guessing her verdict. She’s a mess. She probably didn’t have what it takes to be a juror.
Money talks 😆 🤣 I'm sure there's monetary compensation waiting for her!
What a tangled web we weave when we begin to deceive. This comment by Alex to the judge while he was on the stand told the story of this case. Once in motion it could not be stopped.
This woman had three sworn answers. Immediately at verdict she said she stood by her guilty verdict. Next she says she felt pressure from the jury (perfectly normal) and THEN she comes up with Becky Hill pressured her. Ridiculous
Murtaugh bought this juror Z so obvious 🙄
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When the Judge asked if Becky influenced her she said yes but when asked why she fell flat on her face. Speaking of faces when she got stumped you see AMs face ( eyes slowly close, looked downward and head shake like YOU BLEW IT and it was so obvious. It was only a minute but the silence was loud and clear. Someone was padding her pocket!!
@@andreacapaldi4300 You're right.. I'll bet someone was padding Z's pockets with "Mur-dough"" 💰💰💰😆
@@andreacapaldi4300*EXACTLY! I noticed Murdaugh's facial reaction, too. Jury Z forgot what she was supposed to say.*
If Juror Z thought both reasons were true, she should have stated BOTH in her Affidavit.
Juror z seems to be influenced by everyone she comes into contact with.
😂😂exactly
Whey do we have a podcaster giving by his legal opinion. He even admits he is clueless. No one cares what he has to say
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cause Vinnie is a podcaster too.
There appeared to be a lot of coordination in real time between Harpootlian and juror Z’s attorney.
McCullough represented a boat crash victim against the Murdaugh's and now he is in bed with Poot trying to get the murdering Murdaugh a new trial. Which is it Joe, good or evil? Sick legal system we have here in SC!!!
A new trial still will be found guilty because he is. Guilty no matter what
probably, but that's not the point. It's about the alleged integrity of the process.
@@jvanek8512we guarantee a fair trial. Not a perfect trial.
@@DiddlyD-xx2ih He was going to be found guilty no matter what. The Press made sure of that with all the shows and coverage, but we need an appearance of fair trial so we can sleep at night.
This was an amazing hearing 👏 juror. z was influenced by the defence 😅 the judge was absolutely fkn amazing as was creighton Waters in closing as usual 👏 🙌 👌
Laura Murray seems to have a strong desire to side with Murdaugh. It was nauseating and then to hear someone without a legal background argue on behalf of Murdaugh with Laura made it even worse. It isn’t the judges fault that defense didn’t follow the courts directives.
I agree 100%!
Yes, and Joe McCullough will sit right beside her in the courtroom on Murdaugh's side. Joe representated a boat crash victim, talked sh*t about the Murdaugh's, their power and control in the 'Low County' documentary and then helps Poot and Grift and represents the egg juror. Which side do you take good or evil? I am a resident of SC and the corrupt legal system makes me sick.
My money's on the Justice knowing the law. Poot actually screwed up by asking to allow Z to refresh her memory with the affadavit.
@@darlenethomas8291big screw up. You could see in his face he realised his mistake. Even Alex knew it was game over
there's more going on here ... these lawyers shouldn't be allowed to hunt down jurors after a trial. She could be threatened, paid, etc.
Right lol what about how she was influenced by some crazy stalker defense attorneys
The he whole jury was paid remember.
By Becky hill and her media tour
@@Somero5115 😂
This really bugs me and no one is talking about them going to jurors houses. Jurors are told at the end of trial about someone approaching them and that they should contact the court to ask the jury if they want to speak to them, not go to them directly
It doesn't matter if they go to appeal this case. This judge was on Supreme Court and was asked to take this hearing. They will support her ruling, IMO.
I trust the Supreme Court Justice judge much more than any of the lawyers on this panel with a review of this.
She was biased
I get it, everyone deserves a defense, but I cannot imagine being able to live with myself if I was up there defending this convicted murderer. With that said, this juror seems to be coached, she can't even explain how the comment made her vote guilty. Not saying the clerk did not say things she should have not, but one statement is enough to make a juror change her decision??? Either she is weak as hell and should never serve on a jury again, or she's coached and the good 'ole boy network is in full effect down there still.
May God bless intelligent, fair and good Judge Toal❤.
This juror can't think independently; she can't think for herself?? I smell BS from miles away with this juror and with Becky Hill. This is small town justice at its worst. If I was on that jury, I'd call out all of their BS from the get go!
She was influenced by the defense!! ! Not credible!!
The guy in blue ,,”can’t handle the truth”
I think Juror Z was influenced by Team Alex and only Team Alex.🧐
How can only 1 juror feel like she was influenced by Becky Hill and while the other 11 state they were not? Seems to me Juror Z might be one of these people that “believes anything” if they “hear it enough times”…much like a hypochondriac (a person comes to work feeling fine; someone says “are you ok you look like you feel bad”; several other people say the same thing or something similar; suddenly the person is ready to call 911 as they believe they’re about to die).
Since the trial ended Z has heard over and over again about the defense team’s allegations of jury tampering so Z starts believing “hmm wait a minute yeah, oh yeah Ms Hill surely influenced my verdict…it must be true others seems to think so it must be true”. If she was influenced “in any way” (during the trial) WHY DID SHE NOT DO THE RIGHT THING AND MAKE IT KNOWN AT THAT TIME.
You mean the Illusory truth effect?
Juror Z should have spoken up at the time all this was going down but she didn’t. She is going to get caught out sooner or later for telling the truth. Poot was the one who wanted Juror Z on stand but that’s not good enough & the Judge is not having any of his crap. Juror Z gave an affidavit but now she wants to adjust it on the day she’s called before the judge why, when & how has she change her mind. I heard that Poot has said in a press conference that they know who killed Mrs M & her son well then they should give that info to investigators so they can follow up on the lead.
I agree with this decision, but I don’t know why a Court of Clerk would ever think they are so important that anyone would care about a book they wrote. Have you ever seen any Court of Clerk act like Becky Hill? She’s not that important. Just do your job like the rest of us do.
She's so inappropriate on rhe stand, it's unreal. She's digging her own grave.
She saw possible dollar signs and got so greedy she didn't know how to finesse the situation. She could've easily kept her mouth shut and then wrote a book later.
She said she and the co-author earned $100,000 from the book.
She said she and the co-author earned $100,000 from the book.
She said she and the co-author earned $100,000 from the book.
Judge Toal was trying to save those jurors from being bombarded with questions. She doesn't want other potential jurors to look at this and worry if this will happen to them up end their lives because clerk has inappropriate dealings with the jury and couple jurors when asked if that was their verdict and still their verdict, they didn't tell the truth or either changed their minds.
I would have liked the judge to ask this: If Becky Hill influenced you so much why did you initially vote Not Guilty? Was it the jury that ultimately convinced you to vote Guilty? And, why did you not indicate that you preferred to vote Not Guilty when you were polled?
Indecisive people are on jurors all the time!!!! These people screwed up big time. I pray it don't cause a murderer to go free!!
Where is Murdaugh getting all the money to pay these attorneys? Are they just helping a friend and working Pro Bono?
His family
He has money in the Murdaugh trust fund he is probably tapping into through his brothers
@@09mrmarshall part of it also that Harpootlian loves the publicity and being on camera and on news.
From what I remember. The defense sent people around the to the jurors houses to see if they could find a reason for a retrail.
Somebody, could have been juror "Z", brought up Becky name and the book. They Swooped in like vultures and danced around thinking we this juror they had it wrapped up for a retrail.
Thankfully they did not.
jmo
Maybe it was full moon that day too and she felt pressured by the tides?
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The guy who said he thought it was about getting the truth of what happened was misinformed about the purpose of the hearing. This wasn't about Becky or her actions, it was about finding out if the jurors were influenced by it. Everything else was out of bounds, which was made clear beforehand.
The juror said they were influenced but it was disregarded.
@@Echo-wc7sm Then juror Z said her affidavit last year in which she stated that she felt presurred by the other jurors to vote guilty was correct. Her 2023 affidavit clearly indicated that she was uncertain about Murdaugh’s guilt when she began deliberations with the other jurors. Appellate courts have ruled that a juror feeling pressured by other jurors is not grounds to overturn a verdict - the influence of jurors on each other is how jury deliberations are done.
@@Echo-wc7sm Yes, because the juror kept changing her story.
First Z said in her sworn affidavit she was influenced by the other jurors, not the clerk. In court, she said the verdict was her own, based on the evidence. A minute later she said it wasn't her own, that she was influenced by the clerk. When questioned more about it, she said the affidavit was more correct than her statement in court. THEN, after being dismissed, her lawyer sent an e-mail wanting to "clarify".
The judge called her "ambivalent" in her ruling. I think that was a kind word to use.
@@JWildberry The judge did not acknowledge that both juror pressure AND the clerk could influence it. She just testified that it did and the judge basically admitted Hill made statements.
@@Echo-wc7sm Actually, that's the one thing juror Z never claimed. She never said it was both. Not in her affidavit, and not in court.
And you're completely ignoring her response to the question she wasn't prepared for, namely "was your verdict based entirely on the testimony, evidence and law presented to you in this case?" Her response was a very loud and clear "yes, ma'am."
This is a common method to used find inconsistencies in things like psych evaluation and police interviews, so when the juror contradicted herself a moment later, that's concerning.
Becky Hill should be held accountable.
For what? Writing the book? I'm not arguing just trying to understand what she should be held accountable for?
@@peace_lovemuzic5208
Lying for one
@@peace_lovemuzic5208jury tampering???
@@peace_lovemuzic5208how about for releasing pictures of the victims to the media?
Seriously just watch the judges questions to Hill
She perjured herself. She should get some jail time . She loves the Murdaugh’s so much !!
She sounded scared like she was told to say she was influenced but wasn't sure how to answer specific questions
As a juror, it’s our job to decide, as a team. Let’s move forward, .
Becky Hill should be removed from office. Since she is an elected county official she cannot be easily "fired." The process to remove her from office is likely complicated and slow. But certainly the voters could oust her in the next election. It's clear she created much unnecessary turmoil in a very serious murder trial by her egregious conduct and likely perjury.... all at the taxpayers expense. Vote her out!
theres actually no process in place at all to remove her.
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One angle I was hoping that the prosecutors would bring up is the fact that even if Becky Hill did make those statements, they were neutral and/or ambiguous. If Becky Hill thought AM was innocent, she still could have told the jurors to watch him closely. The fact that a juror *interpreted* her statements as being negative towards Alex Murdaugh does not mean her statements were actually prejudicial. This is no basis for a retrial considering people can interpret anything you say or do as being negative or positive regardless of your intent. Becky Hill could seem grumpy one morning because she forgot her cup of coffee and a juror could interpret that as her being negative towards the defense. People misunderstand each other’s intentions all the time.
In summary, to me it is obvious that one juror’s vague interpretations of Becky Hill’s motivations are not enough for a new trial. Even if Becky Hill did tell the jurors to pay close attention or watch the defendant’s body language closely, that language is neutral enough for it to be a non factor in the outcome of the case. At best, the juror is saying she got a vague impression that Becky Hill may have thought AM was guilty. The impressions that a single juror got from reading into a single statement from the clerk of court is a ridiculous standard and opens up the door to throw away every conviction. Unless Becky Hill made specific statements with the intention of swaying the opinion of a juror or putting pressure on her to reach a decision, this should be thrown out.
One more aside: I think this is an especially dangerous standard for jurors who are natural followers and easily influenced by others, as they are constantly looking to others for social cues and approval in their regular life. These kind of people (of which I suspect the juror is one) are so uninclined towards independent thought that they can’t help but unconsciously look to those around them for indicators on what they should be thinking. So inevitably, this kind of ingrained behavioral psychology to fit into a social group means these kind of jurors will be the Achilles’ heel of every conviction should this standard be adopted, because they can’t help but try to assign meaning and interpret the opinions of everyone they come in contact with so as to be influenced by it.
Since I first heard the defense say that there were jurors who felt influenced by Hill, I wondered why none of those jurors said something at the time, why was it coming out months later? Now that we have heard what the jurors actually said, in court, I realize it was really one juror and one juror who seems really confused. Juror Z has said different things about her experiences as a juror, as far as being effected by fellow jurors and then effected by Hill. I don't know what juror Z's story is-is she just confused in general about things or was she effected by the defense being very interested in her and what she had to say? Or both.
She was influenced to see him as guilty during the trial. Yet when deliberation starts, she is the only one who thinks he is innocent? Make it makes sense.
Also, why report this to the defense and not the court?
If it’s not over, AM is broke, who’s paying for his lawyers.!!!
I’d never hire his defense lawyers
Why would anybody bring Lori on? She is just defiant and always sides with the guilty.
I completely agree with you! she one crazy soul!
Because like Alex; she’s a narcissist. She’s been team Alex from the start. She also sits on their side at every hearing. Just like yesterday. She makes me sick
AM has been corrupt for long time and karma got him.
If you allow yourself to be influenced by regular juror members, you're definitely easily influenced by professional defense attorneys 🙄 Her story changed to match what the defense were claiming, and it rightfully came back to bite them in the ass.
This judge punted this to the appeal court.
That’s how laws are made. The law states she denies this request. She retired as an Appellate Judge, so she knows this law needs to be further reviewed.
Two of your guests seem very keen to give Mr Murdaugh a new trial. Why? A defendant is entitled to a fair trial not a perfect one…the Judges questions made it clear that the Jurors apart from z where adamant they obeyed their oath and admonishment by the Trial Judge. Z differed in her testimony so the Judge weighed what she knew of the trial ect and made what is clearly the right decision.
She only remembered selective questions.
They explained to juror Z AT THAT TIME
The affidavit and juror Z gave her explanation
Now the murdaugh team want a REDO!!!
AGAIN.
If jury Z felt pressure from the other jurors during deliberations, it means that hadn’t yet made her mind to convict the defendant with the clerk’s comments during the hearing. If she had already decided that the defendant was guilty after hearing the court clerk’s comments, she would be supporting the conviction (just going along), not filling pressured to convict! 🤷🏻
No Lori Murphy and podcasters that are pro-Murdaugh needed
May she never serve on any other jury. Poot and company needs to be investigated because this juror has been paid off.
Creighton did a magnificent job in this whole farce... Becky Hill needs to go!
Thanks Lawyer Lori you proved Eric's point! Lori insinuates Justice Toal asked juror Z leading questions, and juror z wasn't prepared to respond. Eric just said the same thing: defense efforts went to discrediting Becky Hill instead of proving juror Z's verdict decision was influenced by her, even after Justice Toal told both sides what she was looking for.
Juror Z is lying
Dont believe her at all. How does she not remember?
This trail was not to “get to the truth.” That was the original trail. This was to see if the jury was unduly influenced and did it affect the outcome? If Juror Z is not credible- which clearly she was- and no other evidence is presented for that, there is no reason to go on. Just because one juror cries foul doesn’t mean the rest are liars. In fact, I feel that the other eleven seem to be more truthful. I’m glad the judge saw through this tactic. Let’s hope it sticks this time!
joe mcculloch was juror Z representative who was on the defence team 😹 in the background, obviously, but it's not rocket science 😅
Horrific
And Alex gestures were obvious that he knew what she would say. Po thang
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yes I felt that too
The only juror whose testimony I truly trust is the one without a lawyer
I disagree because the defense told all of them to get attorneys. That should never happen
How much did Jury Z get paid from Murdock team?
Jurors watching the trial in the back online … that’s wild …
All jury’s are doing it at home too! People are rogue!
Yes, but there’s been conflict amongst certain jurors who have said that Juror Z was lying. It doesn’t justify their actions but it explains their behavior
The state crafts questions in one manner and the defense crafts questions in another, I can’t take poot seriously objecting to the phrasing of the Judges question. Juror Z comes off as a people pleaser who has no real testimony to share. Poot and Jim are wasting the people of South Carolina’s time and money.
Juror Z 💰💰💰💰💰💰
When jury Z hesitated it just seemed she was too unsure of what she felt or wanted to say..When Becky hesitated people thought she was not truthful.....thus is unbelievable
The US Supreme Court has ruled that the defense does not have to prove prejudice or that the verdict would not have been differently decided.
I think Juror Z wasn’t the only one. Where did this ride home story come from.
This jury sucked. Watching the trial from the jury room? If they did it now, you know they went home and watched news about it during the trial. They knew better. This was one of the most immature, irresponsible juries, what a joke.
How the heck did Justice Toal not get to the truth??? From my TV she took all accounts into consideration and came to lawful decisions. Totally respect her and her court.
Juror Z. She wants attention and she can't stand up for what she thinks. I don't think she even knows what she thinks. It's whatever whoever she's with thinks.
Such a pain in the ass way to get out of jury duty indefinitely
So saying to her... There's nothing wrong with it both being true 🤔 isnt that leading 🤔