Thanks Mike for another awesome video I always enjoy watching your videos each time you edit another one.technolgy has come along way from Allis Chalmers combine the all crop 90 my dad had when he farmed back in the late 50s and very early 60s and the one my aunt had her farm was and all crop 60 a 5 ft combine to this 50 ft combine that is massive. Thanks mike
Nicely filmed Mike, really like the overhead shots. When 30' foot heads came about I thought that they couldn't get much bigger and now here we are at 50'. A quarter of beans would be a short day for that machine.
A 50 feet Draper Header is quite a piece of kit. In Australia, I believe they have headers as wide as 60 feet, due to the quality of their soil not being able to support such a high crop density per unit of area. Broadacre farming I believe it's called. Anyway, the point I wish to make involves the combines unloading augers - as headers get ever wider, the unloading augers must be made longer too, in order to allow chaser bins to be 'spotted' along their centre line. When one thinks of the sheer length of these unloaders, that's a substantial weight on its own, plus the enormous leverage effect induced on the 'elbow' on the main body of the combine. The unloader becomes even heavier and induces even more strain on the 'elbow' previously mentioned, when it's in the act of dumping its grain into the chaser. With the high volume of grain being moved with the aim of emptying the combine grain tank as quickly as possible, the unloader effectively becomes like a solid bar, with all the greater attendant forces that are generated when it is doing so, versus the empty unloader plus its internal auger. The main support for the unloader 'elbow' on the main body of the combine must be approaching a limit in terms of its mechanical strength and ability to support such high mechanical loading. With the advent of these super wide headers, at least the effect of their increased weight can be mitigated somewhat by outrigger support wheels just behind the rear vertical wall of the header, but for the unloader tube, there doesn't seem to be an equivilent additional support method. This, I feel, will lead to stress failures within the 'elbow' of the unloader on the mainframe, in addition to loading the left side of the combine frame more than the right side. Additionally, with such wide headers now commonly used to make best use of these Class 9 & 10 combines tremendous output potential, the grain tank will fill up so quickly between one dump and another, that the operator will usually leave the unloader in the extended position rather than folding it back along side the combine body between dumps. This practice can only potentially create stress fractures in this area of the machine, particularly over bumpy ground, where such shocks are transmitted through the structural frame of the machine, and because the unloader 'elbow' is already under a lot of mechanical stress, subjecting it to even more will not help its longevity. Anyone else got any thoughts on this matter ?
Mike, Thanks for another great video, love to see Titan LSW tires. One thought that did come to mind, this farm is a big AGCO customer, and they could have had a class 8 Gleaner !!!
The class 8 Gleaner with a 40 ft. head would do probably do close to the same acres a day, with less fuel and compaction, don't under rate the underdog.
@@gleanerman2195 I can’t get enough Gleaner content, want to see more ! Mike Mitchell’s farm in Canada had 7 or 8 Ideal 9 combines for a couple of years. Wonderful sample and throughput, plugged constantly and 2 were always down for repairs. One had a gearbox failure and burned to the ground. This year they went all green. Too bad there is not a class 9 Gleaner, perhaps some day.
That 50’ head is beyond cool, but being the king nerd around here, I’m on a strict 3:1 CTF format. So I’d need a 150’ planter, or go 1:1 with a 50’ planter / drills. Before I could afford bigger equipment, I was 20/60. Now I’m 30/90. I could put the wings on my planters and get bigger heads and be 40/120, but a DB120 set up on 20” rows is more than I can pull, and I need the narrow rows for weed control being organic/regen. Darn impressive display of equipment here though. Size matters.
Didn’t see an auto steer receiver. 50 ft is pretty wide to watch and take a full swath plus unload on the go that close. Maybe I’m just not seeing the receiver?
Same here, CA farming is very impressive especially the Tulare dry lake area. The Imperial valley at the southern end of the Salton sea is also another good farming area.
The one thing I will never understand is why the operator leaves the unloading auger out instead of swinging it back after dumping. It's a dangerous habit that could cause all sorts of damage to the auger if you get complacent
Its only extended for impressive drone shots and most likely retracted when no pictures are being taken. I wonder if the auger cleans the pipe out like the JD x series. The JD X feed auger in the grain tank shuts off so and the long unload auger conitnues running for a while for its cleanout which means less weight hanging out.
@@Ellison89Brett it's actually very hard on the auger to leave it out bouncing up and down. And then the danger of hitting other objects like power lines, other unloading augers, etc
@@froggienm71 I doubt it’s so hard on it… I mean yeah you wouldn’t want to go bouncing over ruts at 10mph, but in normal conditions there’s no issue. I feel that leaving it out actually reduces the possibility of hitting something with it. I can look out the door and see it, when it’s folded in you can’t see it clearly. Once I’m done with the endrows my auger is out till I’m done with the field and I’ve never had a problem.
@@Ellison89Brett Gleaners built recently have a transverse rotor, the only combine I know of with “natural crop flow”. All other combines sold today have either one or two longitudinal rotors, Case IH, who invented the longitudinal rotor, calls this arrangement “axial flow”. There are animations on UA-cam that do a good job of illustrating these.
Why a wider header? Wider header costs extra, requires more horsepower, is bulky to maneuver/transit, and poorer at ground contouring. 10mph on a 25' header is the same productivity as 5mph on a 50' header, but without these extra downsides. Doesn't make sense to me. Seems to pad the ego, not the brain. What's the logic here?
It most definitely gets coolest looking combine award for sure 👍👍
He's got some pretty good sized fields. That 50' will definitely save time and be more productive. Always enjoy your drone footage Mike!!
Great to see this black beast in a soybean field😁👍 the challenger looks good on the grain wagons👍😉
Great video, Mike. The bean headers continue to get longer
You got some great drone footage lovew watch your video you do a great job.
Thanks Mike for another awesome video I always enjoy watching your videos each time you edit another one.technolgy has come along way from Allis Chalmers combine the all crop 90 my dad had when he farmed back in the late 50s and very early 60s and the one my aunt had her farm was and all crop 60 a 5 ft combine to this 50 ft combine that is massive. Thanks mike
Another impressive video Mike and thanks for it.
10 more feet for a Honeybee 60 footer would even be more 'candy' for the eyes.
Nicely filmed Mike, really like the overhead shots.
When 30' foot heads came about I thought that they couldn't get much bigger and now here we are at 50'. A quarter of beans would be a short day for that machine.
Yes I remember the first time I saw a 30 foot header and thought it was just huge.
Surprised an 8 can power that header! Always thought you’d need 600hp+ for those! Great shots of the harvest!
Fantastic video again. I like Mike 👍
A 50 feet Draper Header is quite a piece of kit. In Australia, I believe they have headers as wide as 60 feet, due to the quality of their soil not being able to support such a high crop density per unit of area. Broadacre farming I believe it's called.
Anyway, the point I wish to make involves the combines unloading augers - as headers get ever wider, the unloading augers must be made longer too, in order to allow chaser bins to be 'spotted' along their centre line. When one thinks of the sheer length of these unloaders, that's a substantial weight on its own, plus the enormous leverage effect induced on the 'elbow' on the main body of the combine. The unloader becomes even heavier and induces even more strain on the 'elbow' previously mentioned, when it's in the act of dumping its grain into the chaser. With the high volume of grain being moved with the aim of emptying the combine grain tank as quickly as possible, the unloader effectively becomes like a solid bar, with all the greater attendant forces that are generated when it is doing so, versus the empty unloader plus its internal auger.
The main support for the unloader 'elbow' on the main body of the combine must be approaching a limit in terms of its mechanical strength and ability to support such high mechanical loading.
With the advent of these super wide headers, at least the effect of their increased weight can be mitigated somewhat by outrigger support wheels just behind the rear vertical wall of the header, but for the unloader tube, there doesn't seem to be an equivilent additional support method. This, I feel, will lead to stress failures within the 'elbow' of the unloader on the mainframe, in addition to loading the left side of the combine frame more than the right side. Additionally, with such wide headers now commonly used to make best use of these Class 9 & 10 combines tremendous output potential, the grain tank will fill up so quickly between one dump and another, that the operator will usually leave the unloader in the extended position rather than folding it back along side the combine body between dumps. This practice can only potentially create stress fractures in this area of the machine, particularly over bumpy ground, where such shocks are transmitted through the structural frame of the machine, and because the unloader 'elbow' is already under a lot of mechanical stress, subjecting it to even more will not help its longevity.
Anyone else got any thoughts on this matter ?
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Top machinery, top video 👍 Regards from Down Under.
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15,2meters, wow!
Don’t see gravity wagons being utilized in that part of the country much anymore,let alone with the newer bigger equipment on hand.
Had to come back 6 mos. but I got'e some Mike Less Horse music. Life is good.
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Mike,
Thanks for another great video, love to see Titan LSW tires.
One thought that did come to mind, this farm is a big AGCO customer, and they could have had a class 8 Gleaner !!!
The class 8 Gleaner with a 40 ft. head would do probably do close to the same acres a day, with less fuel and compaction, don't under rate the underdog.
@@gleanerman2195 I can’t get enough Gleaner content, want to see more !
Mike Mitchell’s farm in Canada had 7 or 8 Ideal 9 combines for a couple of years. Wonderful sample and throughput, plugged constantly and 2 were always down for repairs. One had a gearbox failure and burned to the ground. This year they went all green. Too bad there is not a class 9 Gleaner, perhaps some day.
Bel video. Bei mezzi. Bravo.👍👍💪💪👋👋🚜🔝🇮🇹
What types of crops can a combine harvester handle?
Looks like a lot of fun Mike..😖
What is the combine auger broken? It never came back to side position.
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i would like to operate one of these machines. great video
That 50’ head is beyond cool, but being the king nerd around here, I’m on a strict 3:1 CTF format. So I’d need a 150’ planter, or go 1:1 with a 50’ planter / drills.
Before I could afford bigger equipment, I was 20/60. Now I’m 30/90. I could put the wings on my planters and get bigger heads and be 40/120, but a DB120 set up on 20” rows is more than I can pull, and I need the narrow rows for weed control being organic/regen.
Darn impressive display of equipment here though. Size matters.
Sounds like we need to get together for a video at your place.
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surprised hes not cradling that massive unload auger between unloads, i get in corn as its always in use but soy is way slower
Why would he just keep running with the unload auger out? Seems like putting back in the cradled position wood be better.
Mike.they have 50 foot headers now how much bigger do you think they can go ?
I'm told Honeybee builds a 60 foot flex draper head.
Didn’t see an auto steer receiver. 50 ft is pretty wide to watch and take a full swath plus unload on the go that close. Maybe I’m just not seeing the receiver?
Receiver is on the front bin lid, it is there.
Someone should have shown the combine operator how to retract the unloader arm!
I guess the unload auger button doesn't work. Why else would he be driving around with auger out all the time.
Because when you unload every 5-8 minutes why put all that wear on the folding parts?
I like Mike less videos on UA-cam from the imperial co California. 🚜🚜🚜🚜
Same here, CA farming is very impressive especially the Tulare dry lake area.
The Imperial valley at the southern end of the Salton sea is also another good farming area.
The one thing I will never understand is why the operator leaves the unloading auger out instead of swinging it back after dumping. It's a dangerous habit that could cause all sorts of damage to the auger if you get complacent
Its only extended for impressive drone shots and most likely retracted when no pictures are being taken.
I wonder if the auger cleans the pipe out like the JD x series.
The JD X feed auger in the grain tank shuts off so and the long unload auger conitnues running for a while for its cleanout which means less weight hanging out.
@@John-nc4bl lol.....
Because when you unload every 5-8 minutes why put all that wear on the folding parts?
@@Ellison89Brett it's actually very hard on the auger to leave it out bouncing up and down. And then the danger of hitting other objects like power lines, other unloading augers, etc
@@froggienm71 I doubt it’s so hard on it… I mean yeah you wouldn’t want to go bouncing over ruts at 10mph, but in normal conditions there’s no issue. I feel that leaving it out actually reduces the possibility of hitting something with it. I can look out the door and see it, when it’s folded in you can’t see it clearly. Once I’m done with the endrows my auger is out till I’m done with the field and I’ve never had a problem.
Agco needs to offer this in Gleaner colors and badging, give the Gleaner customers the twin rotor option.
agco is unlikely to offer their top end product with the gleaner badge even tho it might just get some farmers convinced
I would be opposed to a a Gleaner built in Italy.
But it’s not a Gleaner so why would they call it a gleaner? The whole point of a Gleaner is no rotor…
@@Ellison89Brett Gleaners built recently have a transverse rotor, the only combine I know of with “natural crop flow”. All other combines sold today have either one or two longitudinal rotors, Case IH, who invented the longitudinal rotor, calls this arrangement “axial flow”. There are animations on UA-cam that do a good job of illustrating these.
@@markam306 yes I know… I grew up running Gleaners (R52, R62, R65) and have been running Deere machines for the last 15 years.
*QUESTION*
Why a wider header? Wider header costs extra, requires more horsepower, is bulky to maneuver/transit, and poorer at ground contouring.
10mph on a 25' header is the same productivity as 5mph on a 50' header, but without these extra downsides. Doesn't make sense to me. Seems to pad the ego, not the brain. What's the logic here?