Renault Megane e-Tech 60 kWh - Range tested - This is enough!
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2022
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Looks great, Renault have smashed it with this ev. Im sorry but looks better then id3, the interior looks nice and the google software looks great.If i needed a small compact EV with decent range this would be on top of my list.
@Daniel Stefanovic Wait for the ID.3 facelift. 😉
@@alexklemme You mean in like 3-4 years? 🤪
@@danielstefanovic2604 No, 2023. 😉
Volvo has had a lot of problems with the Google software so it's far from perfect. Looks good, though. Also, at least in my country the Renault costs a bit too much compared to the ID.3.
@@alexklemme The "favelift" is here, and it looks pretty much the same lol
So for the rest of the world we'll get over 300km easily then at 100-110km/h. Such a great positive review, Renault now can see this and loan you actual press cars. :)
My estimate...at least 345 km with 110.km/h. Some 380 with 100 km/h. (same temp, wind and route and that 274 range is correct at those 130 km/h).
But it is dangerous t asume that 11% is really 11 %.
Also ...most EV cars will go to turtle mode when they come below somewhere near 5%..
Safe range should be 330 with 110 and 360 with 100 km/h.
(And I cannot use such a car....I need 360 km range in winter (with 100 km/h because that's the maximum allowed speed where I live). Because the economics for any EV only work if most charging is done at home and I regularly drive 360-370 km on a day.
@@reiniernn9071
The problem with EV's, is when you take a family + luggage the situation turn to a new story!!! you will not do a 120Km at that speed, maybe 150 at 110km/h, what is ultra bad...
I believe that it's a city car, not a highway traveler!!
@@Maximius38 The range from an ev does not change much if you load the car with family and luggage. Weight is not very important for energy usage. The drag of the car is most important for energy usage. It is possible (depending on which car) that a fully loaded car uses less energy because the drag reduces a little when the car gets lower to the ground due to the extra weight.
If you mean driving with a luggage trailer. In europe we have lower speed limits with trailer than without.
When I drive with my 750 kg trailer (heught 171 cm) the energy usage / km is the same or lower as with driving without that trailer . Speed limit with trailer 80 km/h (driving between 85 and 90 km/) without 125 km/h
My experiences contradict your comment.
Drive an E-Tech since a month. Love the car. Consumption is 14.8 kwh per 100km at 104km/hr speed (Iconic model), so equals nearly 400km range with 60kwh battery!
Well, there is always a speed to reach 400 km 😉 I compare cars at 130 and 90, if possible. 275 km at 130 is fine.
120km/h is slowest I would measure consumption.
@@ivanlazarevic78 and fastest? 😂
@@mesaber86 150 km/h
Is there a heat pump?
Cancelled my order for a MG ZS and have now ordered the Renault. Look forward the full review.
Good man
I am between the two. What were the main points behind your decision?
@@thess0414 Mainly the google driven infotainment system. And not having a build date for the MG even after 9 months since I ordered it. 😡
Thank you! Your videos are always interesting.
Hi, ich habe bei Sonnleitner meinen Megane E-Tech schon vorbestellt ;) Freue mich drauf!
This is a really nice looking car.
I had the opportunity to test it for a short drive a month ago.
Love the Google operating system.
All car manufacturers should stop making their own software and just let Google do the work 👍
Danke fur ein gutes video. I like ur range tests ❤
On the screen behind your wheel, the estimation range is calculated on the last 70 km. On the central screen (google maps) the range is estimated with the last 30 minutes and the type of roads, normal speed on the way, landscape (down, up), traffic...
Nice and interesting review. I guess Renault has created a new and good ev again👍
Great video and information about the capacitive steering wheel! 👏👏👏
Very nice review, now you just have to redo it in January during the winter, when it will be dry (for ther speed test) and cold at around -5C.
Nice range test, love it. Keep promoting Evs!!!
Thanks for testing this greatly anticipated EV
Great video! 👏👏👏
The cars around the car are going to be here in a futur update, they are already here on the online manual user. Same for the indication of the power of charge (kW coming in) when you charge.
Hmm…Looks very promising…Excellent review, Chris 👍In a an early review of a preproduction car, the only thing I didn’t like was the low seating height in the backseat. Looking forward to your conclusions…
Good video. Thank you.
I love the car. I’ve already test drove it myself and was very impressed. My favorite is still Tesla 3, but if I could get my hands on a discounted showroom piece, I’d go for it. This is the only competitor I consider against Tesla 3. I even believe that this will #3 in the EU sales right after 3/Y (considering Renault can ramp their production to sufficient volumes). Thanks, have a good day! 🏖
Model 3 has better range but not the same use, Model Y is more that, but has barely a better range only because of a bigger battery, and is more expansive. I much prefer Android Automotive in the Megane, the style, all the equipment and it's more my size of use anyway, I don't need a bigger car.
We live in France and have had a Kia e-Niro since March 2019, one of the first off the boat here. We love the car and after 65,000 km it hasn’t put a foot wrong. The Renault looks to be a step up in ride comfort, quiet cruising, infotainment system and the all round quality is something every reviewer comments on...but we won’t be swapping out the Kia which has a better loading setup and more back seat room. The Megane looks great though and we are looking forward to seeing them on the roads here...after all the French love their Renaults
Forgot to say thanks.... your reviews are much appreciated, really enjoy the 130 km/h test...a speed I rarely do, I must be getting old! Looking forward to the comparison with ID3, most journalists think Renault have a real winner here saying the design, quality and the driving experience are better than the VW. I think some shocks are coming to the established car makers in Europe, most especially to Germany, the country is so steeped in engineering excellence of the ICE sort...which is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Some of the Chinese offerings are impressive and keenly priced. We live in interesting times.
Have you looked at the new Kia Niro, what's your thoughts on it if you have?
@@lendios764 I saw the hybrid version at my dealer in Niort a couple of months ago, the don’t get the EV until September. I will have a test drive but I am not in the market for a new car now, perhaps never will be. The new one is slightly bigger and has the ability to tow, which would be useful for us but I wouldn’t break the bank over getting one. For me it would have to be a step-up in charging speed, the range is fine but they missed an opportunity to lift the charging speeds to be at least competitive with the ID3 and Megan (130 KW). Having done a 1,100 km run to Frankfurt last winter it would have been useful to shave 10-15 minutes off charging stops.
Greet video! Very interesting car
The Google map view is spectacular indeed.
I do 300+km journeys in my Zoe ZE50 without recharging & get there with range to spare. Lane Assist disabled using old fashioned cruise control. I'm DRIVING after all!
But you don't do that with 130 km/h 😉
@@BatteryLife We are not allowed to drive at 130km/h!
@@BatteryLife I'd be quite driving at 130 + without driver aids but we can't drive at that speed in Ireland.
Imagine what a self driving would have made of your drive into the charger at the end of the video, and you probably didnt notice the madness
Nicer than the Nissan Ariya. I like French cars styling, but so far never had a French car...maybe
Thats more than enough range for me,twice what my e-Golf will do, but then again, it has twice the battery
Great video Chris! Thanks. it looks less spacious that ID.3
In my opinion ID.3 is way better for the price.
I've seen both, I find the Renault narrow inside but very complete while the Id3 is more spacious but seems completely empty. I don't like the more narrow windshield of the Mégane but the big pilar of the Id3 is deadly, I'm sure I would hit someone crossing the street at any moment. Motorwise Id3 will be better. So not sure at all.
I think it's more that 60kWh nett? The ZE40 was 43nett and said 40 too.
And every kWh counts to get the km out.
Curious to see the real capacity.
It seems pretty efficient at least.
Efficient? maybe somewhere in the middle.
Not bad, not good. But enough efficient.
My ioniq 2017 uses much less, And I know that the 54KWH niro and kona do have a much better range at 100 km/h.
And until now I've not seen a commercial car which is using less as an ioniq. (model 2017-now).
Looks like vw id3 has more competition
I also checked that the odometer shows less km.
Unfortunately for me, I estimated 53/54 kWh. I have done a few trips from 100% to 2% and even 0% during which I have done 315km at an average of 16.7kWh/100km. It means having 53 kWh available.
Other users and other testers have also noticed this, but everything seems ok on the car you tested.
Very strange
Perfect!
Great review the net cappacity is a mistery!!! even the car dealers dont agree....
2year warrenty on car atm upgrade for free to 5years
battery warrenty what the los can be at the end nothing to be found...
If renault brings out a 80 version im game
Thanks for the video Chris! How does the Mégane's auto-steer / lane centering compare with Kona electric? Better, worse, or roughly the same? Those are the two cars I'm deciding between right now! Thanks.
I am talking about it in the video. For several minutes!
@@BatteryLife I know you say it is really good - does that mean it is much better than Kona?
@@hfavbdavbnjSDJCVKLDFNAVK He said it's the best he's tried. Even better than Tesla as it allows you to drive with only a light touch, and about 30 seconds hands free.
My company have 3 Kona' one im driving afther a year wich ZOE. My Kona have same engine like ZOE but is 300kg havier, and ZOE have about 50-80km more range these days when temepratures eas around 30°
I dont know on winter but i know ZOE lost about 50km range. Now when im drivig Kona last 10 days i see in setting it has some battery option for winter but says that decreasing range, didnt test yet.
Also Kona air condition is connected sadly to battery and you will lost 50km when is turned ON, on ZOE is individual.
Both cars are low build quality but ZOE have much better interior quallity stuff than Kona.
Also we have one Kona wich better engine and 220hp power, and that Kona have much more range. I was drive that car for 2 days, about 350+ km and im back to my job wich 25% battery left.
Can't wait for the Alpine 5 Eletric.
Why is the centre screen so much bigger than we have in the Uk?
Can't wait to see which is better, the ID3 or the Megane! 👌
Maybe Id.3 will give more efficiency, is an older model and is more optimized and depurated. But in terms of desight, interior, overall quality, Megane looks best. Even Cupra Born is more appealing than VW and better choice for me.
@@DILINGER0 Cupra Born just became 2150 EUR more expensive (but got a heatpump).
A 110 km/h will be more realistic for most of European countries speed limits. But is not a bad result less than 22 kwh/100 km for that speed.
Actually most European countries have 130 km/h highway speed limit.
I don't have to move my steering wheel in my Max, just put my hand on the steering wheel, which has a sensor in it.
That is right. A touch is enough
@@climbpeng5568 👍
All MEB Platform cars with Travel assist I ever drove needed a steer for them to recognize I am still there.
If not the system complained. In the Renault I did not have to do anything.
Enyaq does also only need a touch, No rattling...
@@BatteryLife No Da schehf, you are wrong here, there is a heat sensor in the steering wheel on the cars with travel assist.
So it does not have addaptive cruise control?
Was in the left hand version in local show room launch , had been told no heat pump , this now appears to be standard , sat much lower than Zoe which I drive but could have been low seat position, hope the cable position is same for rhd version as I believe zoe position is the most sensible . Only reason why most have it as petrol is oem old school design
heat pump is standard in Sweden (but we also pay a premium for cars here)
The heat pump is an option for 400 € here.
@@YannR34 hmm, what is the starting price of the 60kWh 220hp? list price is €48,000 here.
@@_TrueDesire_ smaller finition and super charge (AC 7kW DC 130kW) 40200€, but in that case there is no Heat pump option.
With optimun charge (22AC 130 DC). Starting price 41700 €, Heat Pump 400€ .
Highest Iconic + Optimum 47400 €. Any color included, advanced driving included, augmented vision 1300€, heat pump 400€.
@@YannR34 *cries in Swedish* 😂 why is everything so expensive here!
On Volkswagen you don't have to steer or turn the steering wheel when driving with travel assist. It has capacitive steering wheel - a light touch is enough.
The Megane one is capacitive...
But you should be able to set a temperature in the air conditioning system and it should then make sure that it is that temperature in the car. If the car is modern. Does it have an automatic function?
Yes, you can set it, but I did not want AC.
Doesn't your ID.3 have Capacitive Steering wheel? There you dont have to move the Steer wheel at all, just touch it gently :)
Yes. I believe his ID3 doesn’t have TravelAssist.
Hi Chris, I presume there is wireless charging and wireless Android Auto on board, so wondering why you have your phone plugged in?
Phone does not support wireless charging
Thanks Chris, great reviews, demos mot due in Ireland till Sept. Very interested but depends on pricing.
Hi, thanks the review! I am curious about the 90km/h range and consumption test (in eco mode), and the city riding. Btw: what about the energy prices recharging EVs? (Is the 22kw AC worth it?)
AC at home?
Cause if it's highway, DC charging is best
@@FernandoMiguel AC on the road. This opportunity still comparative, better for the battery, and maybe cheaper. If that Renault Megane E-Tech could ride around 14-15kWh/100km, than with only one stop (coffee, toilet, reading messages, short relax, eating) it can go 150 km further (so 400km + 150km = 550km), which is not bad!
DC is actually better, no need for inverter.
The impact on battery life is repeating full charges at very high current.
If you don't charge to 100 nor use ultra fast chargers, impact on battery will be small.
You get no benefits from charging AC, unless you have more stalls of that available
@@FernandoMiguel I don't think so, the fast DC charging could be much more worse, than the AC charging, and with this base range (more than 400km in eco) with a short stop you can get + 1/3 distance (~ 600 km). While the price can be lower.
I have more questions about this car:
1) Is there a way to switch off pedestrian warning sounds? Zoe has a button that is missing here. Do you know any tricks (replace the sound file,...)?
2) Can you save recuperation level & drive mode to your profile? When I switch the car on, I’d like to have sport/max recuperation.
3) Is Waze available in the store to execute natively in the car (I don’t mean by wireless Android auto, this is working, tested myself)? If not, do you have any info about it? Do you have a way to find out?
4) Do you have any info about SW updates?
a) How frequent customers can expect (does it depend on Google or Renault)?
b) Can they update Firmware in all chips just as Tesla or is it just infotainment?
5) Could you practically test if you can turn on heating, heated seats/steering wheel while connected to AC & DC charger (current issue with Zoe, even the latest ZE50).
Thanks in advance for your help! Cannot wait for upcoming videos about this car.
1. No
2. No
3. I don't know. This car did not let me install apps
@@BatteryLife Thanks! If you are willing to test for me 5), I’d be very grateful. Maybe you did not notice that there were 5 questions (“see more”).
So is it even more efficient if you slap 18" wheels on??? :O
A bit maybe
does it have heat pump??
For once a proper real world test!
Whats the real ground clearance for this? choosing between id.3 and Megane -eTech and clearance is one of the most important criteria for me. Thanks.
Sorry, no idea.
@@BatteryLife maybe you still have megane abd could test? Maybe you will make a video with id.3 next to megane?
13,7 cm
Charge speed test please
👍 It is best in the city, 90km and 120km
No, it was still great on the highway.
Estate / grand tour version of this car is needed
And a "No-SUV-Version" please.
I have a problem in understanding this Wh measurement for example at min 16:56.
How is this read in human language?
If you go a km the car would consume 217W if it would take an hour to do it? Who does 1km per hour?
Wh is energy, W is power. The car consumed 217 Wh for 1 km. Which is the same than 21,7 kWh for 100km
@@BatteryLife Yeah, they try to avoid a confusion and create another. It's like you ask me how much did I traveled yesterday in my boat and I answer: 60knotshour... They should have sick with the joules.
A very, very nice car, inside and out! Unfortunately not an option for me because I have a single garage, typically german, relatively narrow. Unfortunately, the loading flap position at the front right is the most unfavorable one could wish for in a single garage. So the Megane unfortunately falls out of the circle of possible EVs for me. Pity! 🤷🏼♂
I don't get why it's such a problem ? And it's better on the street when you charge when parallel parked.
Great video - thanks. Perhaps you should have driven with the climate control on all the time to keep the consumption the same the whole trip - but I guess that's the only thing that could influence the trip.
Tesla has recently changed their autosteer to use the cabin camera. That has significantly reduced the need to pull on the wheel. It is a fairly new addition on some models so you may not have tried it. In practice it is much more usable.
Last time Tesla was a Model Y in May
@@BatteryLife it was changed in 2022.20.6 and 2022.20.7 which are the latest "regular" updates for non FSD. I belive they started deploying these the last two weeks roughly.
It makes perfect sense needing to botch the steering wheel. If you sleep/dead and hold your hands on the steering wheel it would recognize as everything ok. Cam vision to tell head position (sleeping/dead) is much better.
Danke! But could we have efficiency expressed in miles per kwh, please? My Renault Zoe does 4.8 miles/kwh for local non- motorway trips in the summer, but this drops to 3.1 on the motorway travelling at 70mph. (51kwh battery).
💯💯💯💯
In the UK these are £36K - it will have to be astonishing to beat the MG 4 and the like which are £8K less
In the Uk we’ve been shortchanged in terms of options too, no big screen and no heat pump.
The Iconic model has a Heat Pump as standard
Love it but im afraid it has too small trunk for me with two kids
Yes - the winning combination would be if Renault would made estate version of it.
"Charge port here on the right left" 🤣
I know 🤦
any heat pump on this car?
Don't remember, sorry
this is with heatpump?
yes
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what about 40 kWh model then? Usless?
not uselss - depends on how you use a car - mainly city driving ? then it may be fine , most journeys are under 30 miles
If you can choose in your car between displaying km/kWh or kWh/100 km, which one does everybody prefer and why?
Definitely miles or km/kwh. Because it makes more sense, especially in US where we use miles per gallon.
If i could choose i would let it show in % per 100km like my smartphone does whit apps
I'd also like to see % of charge left and battery temperature displayed. And a button to initiate battery conditioning, whether heating or cooling, to maximize charging efficiency when DCFC is needed.
Wh/km
👍👍👍👍👍
495 km at 90 km/h
I'm confused. The 40kwh should give you 300km. You got that on a 60kwh?
Wltp is not highway speed!
@@BatteryLife wltp is an average of different types of speeds right? 60 kWh Is supposed to give you a range of 450+ on the highway alone at that speed it should be closer to 370. Where am I getting confused? I'm looking at buying a 40kw one, will do mostly highway at 105kmph. What should I be expecting? 200??
Can i watch netflix on it? Maybe while i m charging it?
Did not see that in the appstore
So it doesn’t have orange car play
Sure, it has Apple Car Play and Android Auto, both wireless.
170 miles is really poor in perfect conditions, they advertise at 280
Im waiting for this car tome come in my company for drivin. In my opinion too big wheels are on that E-Megane and draining battery 20% more than should be...
We are ask Renault for smaller wheels and we will receive 18" version, that is the lowest they producing for that model of car.
Right now im driving Hyundai Kona Electric and i cannot skeep 250 km city driving even last couple of days and weather condition are between 25-30° perfect for battery.
In my opinion car is too agressive even in ECO "slowest" mode.
Also we have a year old Renault Zoe who have same engine, power and battery capacity like Kona and is able to skeep 320+km city driving range easy, sometimes show me 400km but reallity about 300-350 depends of driving.
Hyundai is not close to that...
If you turn ON air condition you lost 50km of driving, in Zoe is not konected to battery and you can drive eich your climate all day without losing range. 👏🏻
Yes, Kona is almost 300kg havier, 17" wheels, but Zoe is also 1.500kg like some normal wagoon car 😀 and 16" wheel size.
Hope this car will skeep around 400km, that is what we need.
We have one Kona 150kw power (210 hp) and range on that car is easy 400+km, around 450 without problem, but other two Kona's are not even to 280 close.
In winter in my experience we lost about 70-90km range, depends of temperature.
One of the reason I would choose the Megane E Tech is for its 20" wheels XD... It looks superb!!!
170 miles is poor for a car that costs £36.000 the new MG 4 costs £29.000 and it reaches 250 or 260 miles on a full charge, disappointed in Renault.
Mg4 does that on paper. Let's see in a real test.
The EV technology has improved by leaps and bounds over the past few years. It's amazing that the best in class EV cars of last year are now beaten by the latest arrivals. Tesla Model 3 is so old school and boring now.
@Stanley Knife Not in Europe where chargers are extensive and in most highways.
Much quieter inside than Kona. Less power than Kona felt. Great quality and better looks than Kona. Very, very safe and very good looking car.
But there should have been 63 kwh instead of just 60. And why is there less "punch" than in a Kona?
My old Megane we'll get over 1000km. So ...
Who cares what an ice car can do??? 😉
@@BatteryLife What is an ice car?
@@makikaze I.c.e= Internal combustion engine. And we don't care about your car.
@@general65644 Thanks. You don't care? How many are you? Some voices in your head?
@@makikaze people interested in EVs dont care about your old ICE car is what he means......
Mmm - I think the range sounds pretty poor for a new 60kwh car - not even that big. I would have expected 390-400km no? Normally on these runs there is some deep diagnosis and criticism of the sat nav and screen usability generally, I think this car got let off lightly.....
At that speed even a Model Y can "only" drive 370 km. I am ok with that result at these conditions
Only car under 70.000 euro that can drive 400km at 130km/hour is the Tesla Model 3 Long Range.
Even the Ford Mustang Mach E Long Range which has 610 km WLTP drops off a lot from 110km/hour to 130 km/hour mark.
EDIT: 110km/hour is a different story. Many can go 400+ then.
@@BatteryLife Agreed - Thats why these reviews at 130km are so damaging for EV building reputation. There is insufficient comment regarding the vehicles real range capability. Its not that your test at 130 should not be done of course, but proper recognition should be made that the car would or could achieve so much more if driven at more economic speed (like 90 for instance, the previously internationally recognised best compromise speed)
Man, it was 126 kmh. Do you drive 300 km in 2 h 30 min? No, you dont. Driven with 100 average, which is the real speed in germany in long trips, you will get over 300.....
@@GHOOGLEMALE Thing is, here in Denmark you can drive 130km/hr on the highway, which is why it's very very relevant to us. My wife has 96km to her work place, and has about 90% of that route on 130km/hr roads. So when she gets home, and we want to visit family which lives about an hour away, we want a car that can do 400km at 130km/hour. That is exactly why we chose the Model 3 Long Range over 3-4 other cars.
We will choose another car as car #2 in a few years when our diesel renault dies, and have other needs for that car.
There are plenty of reviews/test showing 90km/hr etc, so seeing 130km/hr tests is very nice for some of us.
Why does every home car youtuber stick their face in front of the camera at every possible occasion? I don't care about you. I care about the car.
Ok, the next time. I just film the car without me. 20 minutes of the car and no talking. Just for you.
@@BatteryLife I didnt say no talking. I am sure you are a nice guy, and I am interested in what you think of the car. But your format is the same as the other 1000000 home car UA-camrs, where it comes across that its about you, and not about the car. Do I need to see you? Have a look and tell me how many home car UA-camrs, and even the so-called pro ones, stick their face IN FRONT of the car almost all the time. I switch off immediately. Try something different.
@@Ray147 when you talk to people do you stand with their back to them FFS?
FFS No. FFS
The laws of Physics are also valid for this car! The amount of energy necessary to move this 2+ ton vehicle is many times that of a much lighter IC-vehicle which needs a lot less power than this behemoth. As long as EV are that heavy, filled with absolutely unneccessary gadgets and way too expensive, An IC car will be my choice.
If you talk about physics, what about the efficiency? From generation to the road what is way more efficient 😉
right EVs are Waaaaaaaaaaaay more efficient than an ICE car
buy never a front wheel drive car
Renault....no thanks....
It is built on the same platform and drivetrain as the Nissan Ariya
Hloupý názor od člověka, který takové auto neřídil ani nevlastnil. Je to velmi povedené EV z Evropy !!!!
Renault has one of the best efficiency consumptions along with Tesla.
By far better than ID3
How you can test a battery without using the air conditioning? And also in warm weather 😂 and u should use in eco mode to see result
IS THIS A JOKE VIDEO? WHAT EV WON'T DO 300 KM?????
at 130 kmh? Many!