Both cars had the charge limit set to 60% on both charging sessions. For whatever reason the Megane shows 59% on the charger. The Megane started at ended at the same SOC.
Useful test. Thanks. The Megane benefits from Renault's EV experience with three generations of the Zoe and shares some of the Zoe cabin controlls, although the Megane platform is new. Choice of EV is also affected by availability. With two good cars just buy the one which arrives first!
Both cars are handsome. I really like the Renault design. Have they made a larger EV? I think Chris has been watching the Simpsons. He laughs like Nelson. LOL
Interesting that the ID3 consumption is slightly better. I think some people were hoping the Mégane would be super efficient. The Mégane charge curve is obviously a bit flatter or else less sensitive to plugging in at very low SoC (I think they have very similar 130kw peak if you plug in at low SoC?) Good test
Looks like a little mistake in your measurement. The moment the charger crashed, the Megan was not ready with charging as the ID.3. The Megan was at 59%, so I think it has to charge a little bit until it's finished.
No, it shows 1% less at the charger. I started with 59% at the charger. Car showed 60% I arrived with 46%, charger showed 45%. No idea why, but it did.
@@BatteryLife okay, thanks for clarification. I just thought about it because it looks like both cars stopped charging at the same moment. In the end the consumption of the cars is nearly the same! Great test! Thank you and keep it up!
@@BatteryLife They look like their bodies displace a similar amount of air so Megane on 18's would likely even things up. DC rotor with brushes for the Renault v more common permanent magnet on VW but I doubt it makes much difference.
@KennethPaul it's a pretty decent car if you want to go fully electric and have the options to charge at home or at work. Drove it from the Netherlands to Spain and wished for a bigger battery, even tho I've got the biggest one. The 220pk is insane, more than enough to overtake everyone at the stoplights. Google's infotainment is working well now after some updates. Integration with the whole vehicle is perfect. Only wished for a sunroof and better visibility, sight is pretty bad in the car. I have to move my heard to make sure I see everything from the sides. Today, I almost hit a bike haha. Would recommend the megane over the Id.3, Born and even model 3 and the new EX30.
My take on this is that the efficiencies of both cars are too close to call. It is possible that the VW does better at higher speeds (Autobahn) while the Mégane is more frugal at lower speeds. It also looks like in the 40-60% range the Mégane charges slightly faster. In any case, I don't think that this test, while interesting and well done, will make buyers choose one car over the other. For me, the vastly better infotainment system (including trip planning) of the Mégane has made the difference.
Nice! I'm glad you did the comparisons between these two. It's an important test! I was really hoping to buy the new electric Megane, but I chose the ID.3 instead. It looks like it didn't make a bad decision, because it they're both good. Though I still like the design of the Megane better than the ID.3's . 😅
Megane is a very nice car, very quiet, comfy, safe, good. Generally I want to express, that 2022 the new price for electric cars is 40 k at least in germany. This car goes directly to 50 k, which is all a lot of money for average people, considering that politics want the move to eletricity, I guess individual mobility will either be unaffordable in the future or just something for the rich. Bad development, most people only can afford those cars by paying high credits for years. 60 kwh is not a lot in 2022, megane should have 70 at least for the price.
I like look of Megane. What's your opinion on rear seat and boot size? I'm not sure about id3 in Red, not my favourite. Does anyone know if 3.0 will change charge curve?
It is a 300kW hypercharger with 4 modules which each can provide 75kW. The modules divide on the two plugs. Since both would never use more than 2 modules which provide 150kW, it is fine. If a Taycan would have charged there, it would have gotten 3 or even all 4 modules.
Interesting comparison: you can see the sub-optimal charging curve of the VW even at low SOC values. What I don't like calling a comparison a fight, too martial why not call it a challenge?
@@matthiasmuller5173 It's just a word and is clearly used metaphorically with 2 inanimate objects, if that offends you, you are not well mentally and you shouldn't try to change the world around you that is happy with the status quo, you should keep those thoughts to yourself and try to improve your mental well being. Good luck. You have quite a fight on your hands.
@@BatteryLife you do see it but you do not perceive the flicker, however your brain still reacts to it subconsciously which is why flickering lights induce fatigue and tiredness
@@tomquimby8669 No, nothing to do with what the brain perceives or not. It's just a question of frequency between the video and the screen. You can switch cameras, and it's the other way around. You will see flashing in the ID3 and not in the Megane.
Both cars had the charge limit set to 60% on both charging sessions. For whatever reason the Megane shows 59% on the charger.
The Megane started at ended at the same SOC.
Renault megane ❤️
If we take all the criteria into account, for me it is the Megane, the interior of the VW is really a no-go
Look at the real cars and you will see no great difference. And: The Megane is much more expensive than ID3
@@henryforpresident7800 Even for half the price, I wouldn't want the vw
megane for me
Renault favolosa💪❤️❤️🔝🔝
I'm glad everytime i can see a Kings Red ID3 on video. I've still never seen one in real, still waiting for mine ^^
Looks great
Useful test. Thanks. The Megane benefits from Renault's EV experience with three generations of the Zoe and shares some of the Zoe cabin controlls, although the Megane platform is new. Choice of EV is also affected by availability. With two good cars just buy the one which arrives first!
Both cars are handsome. I really like the Renault design. Have they made a larger EV?
I think Chris has been watching the Simpsons. He laughs like Nelson. LOL
Interesting that the ID3 consumption is slightly better. I think some people were hoping the Mégane would be super efficient. The Mégane charge curve is obviously a bit flatter or else less sensitive to plugging in at very low SoC (I think they have very similar 130kw peak if you plug in at low SoC?) Good test
It is the same curve, but Megane likes the high SOC started charging sessions better.
i think if both have the same tyre size, then the result would be closer
Pretty the same on daily use
Looks like a little mistake in your measurement. The moment the charger crashed, the Megan was not ready with charging as the ID.3. The Megan was at 59%, so I think it has to charge a little bit until it's finished.
No, it shows 1% less at the charger. I started with 59% at the charger. Car showed 60%
I arrived with 46%, charger showed 45%. No idea why, but it did.
@@BatteryLife okay, thanks for clarification. I just thought about it because it looks like both cars stopped charging at the same moment.
In the end the consumption of the cars is nearly the same! Great test!
Thank you and keep it up!
I would think it is the same in effectiveness. The difference is due to the wheel size...
Very likely
@@BatteryLife They look like their bodies displace a similar amount of air so Megane on 18's would likely even things up. DC rotor with brushes for the Renault v more common permanent magnet on VW but I doubt it makes much difference.
I ordered a first edition and they refuse to put it on 18s so I'm stuck with the childish, ugly, less efficient & worse feeling 20s
ID3 still 1 kWh better, which is unexpected.
@@Macmonkey1000 Wait what, so we finally got to brushless motors in the industry and now going back to brushed motor? Is this information legit??
The ID.3 looks great in that red.
Was about saying the same thing..
That's why I ordered mine in Kings Red last year
No estimated manufacturing date and still waiting XD
Cupra has the same red, but alternative name.
@@mikseinimikelpaa I ordered mine in december 2021, also kings red, VW annouced last week that it will be delivered in november 2022 (i'm in germany).
@@Floxol Mine is with Matrix Headlights + AR Windscreen😑will never get that thing XD
They don't seem too keen on delivering to Finland
Interesting test I was expecting the Megan to be better than the id3
Would you still chose an id3 now? Would you prefer the Renault? I’m leaning toward the Megane; somewhat based on what you’ve shown in your videos.
Video is coming 😉
I went for the renault, what did you choose?
@@Aboydebeat12how have you found the Mégane after 1 year?
@KennethPaul it's a pretty decent car if you want to go fully electric and have the options to charge at home or at work. Drove it from the Netherlands to Spain and wished for a bigger battery, even tho I've got the biggest one. The 220pk is insane, more than enough to overtake everyone at the stoplights. Google's infotainment is working well now after some updates. Integration with the whole vehicle is perfect. Only wished for a sunroof and better visibility, sight is pretty bad in the car. I have to move my heard to make sure I see everything from the sides. Today, I almost hit a bike haha. Would recommend the megane over the Id.3, Born and even model 3 and the new EX30.
My take on this is that the efficiencies of both cars are too close to call. It is possible that the VW does better at higher speeds (Autobahn) while the Mégane is more frugal at lower speeds. It also looks like in the 40-60% range the Mégane charges slightly faster. In any case, I don't think that this test, while interesting and well done, will make buyers choose one car over the other. For me, the vastly better infotainment system (including trip planning) of the Mégane has made the difference.
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Moin Chris! Schöner Vergleich. Beide Autos sind effizient unterwegs. 👍 VG
Nice! I'm glad you did the comparisons between these two. It's an important test!
I was really hoping to buy the new electric Megane, but I chose the ID.3 instead. It looks like it didn't make a bad decision, because it they're both good. Though I still like the design of the Megane better than the ID.3's . 😅
megane is also cheaper
nice battle :))
Short & sweet!
Megane is a very nice car, very quiet, comfy, safe, good. Generally I want to express, that 2022 the new price for electric cars is 40 k at least in germany. This car goes directly to 50 k, which is all a lot of money for average people, considering that politics want the move to eletricity, I guess individual mobility will either be unaffordable in the future or just something for the rich. Bad development, most people only can afford those cars by paying high credits for years. 60 kwh is not a lot in 2022, megane should have 70 at least for the price.
Awesome content
Awesome comment 😉
I like look of Megane. What's your opinion on rear seat and boot size? I'm not sure about id3 in Red, not my favourite.
Does anyone know if 3.0 will change charge curve?
I did a 3.0 update charging curve video
share charge on one charger 🤔
It is a 300kW hypercharger with 4 modules which each can provide 75kW.
The modules divide on the two plugs. Since both would never use more than 2 modules which provide 150kW, it is fine.
If a Taycan would have charged there, it would have gotten 3 or even all 4 modules.
Love your videos! Keep it up 👍
Interesting comparison: you can see the sub-optimal charging curve of the VW even at low SOC values. What I don't like calling a comparison a fight, too martial why not call it a challenge?
It is called attention making 😉
@@BatteryLife I know and I am convinced your seriös channel do not need such a aggressiv form of attention making.
Which software version was the id3 in? That is relevant for the charging curve
@@jesuslopez8190 said on the video big battery 2.4
@@matthiasmuller5173 It's just a word and is clearly used metaphorically with 2 inanimate objects, if that offends you, you are not well mentally and you shouldn't try to change the world around you that is happy with the status quo, you should keep those thoughts to yourself and try to improve your mental well being. Good luck. You have quite a fight on your hands.
SHOCK : ID3 wins..this is going to upset some people :)
It will shock no matter what
The background "music" is awful boombox junk... and MUCH too loud!
😂 Cut out that hippy music. Get off my lawn 😂
@@BatteryLife Just trying to be helpful. If you really want to lose views........
The Megane has a flickering display and the ID3 display does not flicker so it wins this test but it needs to be a GTX ID3 come on VW
You don't see it with your own eyes 😉
It is not flickering for the eyes , just for this type of video
@@BatteryLife you do see it but you do not perceive the flicker, however your brain still reacts to it subconsciously which is why flickering lights induce fatigue and tiredness
@@wolf-dieterschulz-engelke8598 Well Hr Wolf-Dieter Schultz-Engelke Wrong-on-everything. Do some research and become informed
@@tomquimby8669 No, nothing to do with what the brain perceives or not.
It's just a question of frequency between the video and the screen.
You can switch cameras, and it's the other way around. You will see flashing in the ID3 and not in the Megane.