How fast can the Renault Megane E-tech charge?
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2023
- Batteries love a warm day so it’s the perfect opportunity to test the Renault Megane E-tech’s rapid charging speed. I’d read it can charge from 10-80% in just 30 minutes, but can it really?
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@MrEV I think Renault changed their marketing material. This video from Renault says 30 minutes charge time!
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We own a megane too since april and i can definitively say that while it isn't a longlong journey car, it is definitely the perfect daily commuter. Yes charging curve is not so great, but i suspect it was done like that to preserve battery life instead of preferring charging speeds, though you can definitely do long journey with a little more trade off time compared to some pricier cars.
on the other hand, commuting is where it shines, with spring and summer time temperatures you can definitely go down to 12-13 kwh/100km (5.17-4.77 mi/kwh) driving with speeds under 70km/h and with a heat pump version, that's the real deal of efficiency for me and what electric cars should be about!
It's always a must to get the two bosses' opinions of the car you are testing.
So entertaining too.
Good to see you back Mr EV…been a while.
I got my Polestar P2 last Wednesday and I live on a terrace street with no access to at home charging. As a baptism of fire, I’ve already driven from north Northants to Cardiff and back. So far, public charging has been an absolute dream. Especially Ionity. Granted my sample size is only 1 week however I average 80 miles per day. I absolutely love it.
We are in a similar position with living in Victorian terracing and owning an ID.3. I can charge on economy 7 if I sit out with the car so I have got myself up a couple of times at 4a.m. for 3 hours of cheap juice.
We also have some BP Pulse kerbside chargers in the middle of Rugby where we can leave the car all day on a Sunday if we wanted to charging at 30 pence / kWh. Not a bad price really.
The main take home message here is that in 30 minutes, you’ve added 156 miles of range (with your 3.8 miles/kWh efficiency figure), and therefore about 2 hours 10 min of driving at 70mph. So largely enough for most people.😊
Great to see another one of your videos.
Great video Andrew. Good to see you again doing videos😀Best regards Martin
Missed you, glad you're back !
Thanks Mike!
Useful video. Lets hope more apps and networks start supporting the % charge data like chargefinder - great recommendation.
getting our megane this weeek, first time EV owner, brilliant video, answering the questions you can't find elsewhere!
I always listen to my audiobook when I am charging and on my own
Great video 🖖
Been waiting for another vid on the Megane! That’s really useful re: Charge Finder. My go to is Zap Map, but they don’t have this % charge info, which is actually brilliant if you’re on the the M-Way and have a couple of choices for places to stop.
Just be aware that after some researching not all chargers show the SOC it’s still possibly early days for this Tech. I looked at various providers and it needs more individual research to narrow down wether it is the provider or information available through the handshake with the car .
Interesting. The Megane e-Tech is coming to Australia this year looking forward to checking it out think September the local dealer said is about when they are getting some cars.
Nice video Andrew. We started with a 100 mile Zoe, nice little car to drive. We still like our 4 year old Kona, easy driving at 5.1 and 310m at the moment. It has had a new main batt about a year ago. After 5 years I think I would still go for the new 2024 Kona, bit bigger which solves its problems. Saw Robert at Harrogate when he cut the ribbon. I said I had always wanted to meet a rich and important celebrity. He said we can try and find you one but you were not there ! We originally from Kent, now Suffolk and charge at that Ionity place when visiting family at Rhodes Minnis. Drove the EV6 AWD at Harrogate, now that is a car ! Alan
Hi Andrew, always enjoy your videos, very helpful, keep up the good work. Just wondering whether you've tried the 22 kw AC charging? I've found this great as I have a 3 phase charger at home. Also I believe your car has voice control, which we use for everything and never have to touch the screen, as it is so good. I chose the Megane over the Nero ev because of the towing capability and charging speeds.
I have watched your video's in preperation to help my Mom who only a few days ago picked up her Megan E-Tech Plus so that I can help her get on top of the learning curve. Thankfully we have a 7KW charger at home and with Octopus, charging after 11:30pm has been a god send as it is so cheap and we just top it up to 80% when it gets down to about 40%. Super easy car to drive and it with Google integration it is just great. Still a lot to learn! Funnily enough I have the Megane RS 280 which I will never give up but talk about opposities!....Great videos on educating us on EV's...
Great to hear!
Great video as always do you enjoy your Renault? Have a nice weekend.
Yes! Great car.
I tested the Megane at launch and can say it was a great drive. But I was struggling a little for space and kept knocking my head on the roofline getting in and out (problem with being very tall). Whilst 220miles in 30+mins is totally adequate for many , over the coming years this will just get better with newer cars. For certain I am never going back to Petrol or Diesel.
Interestingly, my wife has a similar complaint regarding the roofline, and she's relatively short.
The 800v cars from Kia and Hyundai have a much more impressive charging speed. My IONIQ 5 was actually a bit too quick for me quite often!
Love the Megane, very interested to hear the wife's review. I wish Onto were in more locations across the UK.
Yes, the Megane is great. Onto cover the whole of the UK I think?
Some good info there, Andrew. I like the idea of being able to tell the charge level of the occupied stalls. Not something you can tell with a Tesla Supercharger (just how many are free - and people seem to dislike you peering through their windows to find out for some reason). We are off Sicilly soon. Now that will be a drive.
What a trip! Have a wonderful time. I'm a bit envious!
Wow, 2 months, welcome back! Still interesting to see that a 35 minute stop will charge enough ti give over 220 miles range whilst you have time for coffee and cake as well as use of the facilities. When you are done, the car is. So really this is ideal.
Yes - perfectly usable for most people I think. And still better than the Niro/Kona in terms of charge speed.
A great watch, as always.
Shame your UA-cam uploads are few and far between nowadays, but life gets in the way I guess.
Thank you! Work has almost finished me off this month. 😔
Sorry to hear that. Good to see you back on UA-cam again. Always great videos.
Nice to see a new video! How have you found the car? I remember seeing it when you originally got it and thought it looks pretty techy and fairly good looking.
It's great! It has to go back later this month unfortunately but I'll be filming a full review (with my wife).
Andrew you looked like your eyeballs were sweating!
Interesting to learn about the Charge app...agghh🤯 I've forgotten what it's called, hang on...
ChargeFinder, another useful app, dont know what I'd do without you! Always helpful info to be had in your videos, cheers me dear. 👍
Of course we must have Flaviana's opinion, goes without saying 😂😄
Thankfully I love the heat!
@@MrEV ooh lucky you, I find it enervating....my mad wife has just gone down to Folkstone to play bowls! Me and dog are staying in a cool draft at home behind the curtains 😄
@@MrEV Unlike Mrs EV 😁
ive recently come interested in the pure sine wave and im between getting the mg4 and megane 23, but yeah i am kinda geeking out just remember content doesnt need to be serious editing just do shorts of the car or interesting things im switching to electric and cant wait
Re Kia Niro efficiency. My commonest journeys are round trips in East Sussex, both from 170m to 30m altitude. One 22 miles round trip the other 35 miles. Obviously dramatic difference in efficiency downhill away to uphill home but average on both is currently 4.5m/kWh in normal driving with varying regen, air cooled seats and about 1/3 time with air con on. The GOM showing average 280-290 miles at 100%. Octopus Go recently dropped off peak to 9.5p/kWh so most of our driving is costing 2.1p/mile.
We have a Megane Iconic with a heat pump and have not tried a rapid charge but we do get 4.1 per mile although no Winter driving as yet.
Had no issues charging at home, got a Hypervolt, use the schedule on their app and charged fine everytime
Great to hear.
Love the EU financing sticker on the charger! 🇪🇺🇪🇺
Very interesting. Thanks. But where oh where was the wonderful Mrs EV . . . ? 😂
Soon!
Almost spat my drink out at 8:02🤣, guilty.
My employer is scrapping our company car scheme but shifting to car allowance with an option of salary sacrifice ev, I’ve been told I can look to order a car from September onwards. Megane is on my shortlist (as most cars I think I’d want/afford may not be released by then!) so intrigued about how you find the car. Appreciate your videos for honest reviews on what the EVs you’ve had are like to live with!
Definitely test drive it. This is what tipped me from the born and 20 years of VAG products. So far really happy with the Mégane. 2.5 months and 6k miles on!
@@garybibby2698 thank you Gary, can I ask what other cars you considered? I currently have an Octavia estate, but only regularly use the cabin space (me, wife, 2 kids), so I could manage with a car with a smaller boot but with a roofbox in the shed for the occasional family holiday. I do a lot of miles (2000 a month) so want something comfy, I’m a big bloke so a great seat is important!
My current shortlist contains; ID3, ID4, Enyaq, Kona, Nero, Megane, Volvo XC40 and EX30, Fisker Ocean. Will all depends on what is available to order and how much the lease deals are through the employee scheme come the autumn. I intend to go and test drive and have a good look round each car before I order…
@@gregcooper2719 no worries I gave up waiting for MG marvel R, but I did drive the MG4 (hard to use tech) iD3 (too plasticky/buggy) Born (wasn’t keen on standard specs). I just preferred the drive of the Mégane. I’m 6’3”. Enough room for me. Flat floor can mean legs a bit raised but I am doing similar miles to you comfort. Some don’t like extremely deep boot in Mégane but it is perfect for me.
@@garybibby2698 that’s some great info, thank you. I’m fickle enough where I don’t want a car I don’t like the look of, MG4 and MG5 off the list (subjective I know). Unsure on VAG group cars as I have heard bad things about the infotainment stuff, my octavia one has never worked flawlessly.
I like the look of the Megane, and not heard of any niggles or major issues so it’s creeping up my list!
@@gregcooper2719 people get in it and say ‘it this really a Renault? It feels really solid’ However some have said ‘oh the door sounds tinny’- no it’s made of aluminium, not tin! That’s why it’s light (adding to its nimble drive).
Charge finder , if you look at IONITY 350 in Cambridge , Cringleford and Milton Keynes you will see the SOC but most other types of Charge provider you will either see chargers in use or charger connected …. Minutes ago .
Hello Andrew, what did you think of the BBC Panorama programme titled "Electric Cars: Is it time to buy?" Assuming you saw it? 😮
I haven't. I'm assuming it wasn't very balanced?
@@MrEV well I am surprised the BBC tried to be objective, with views. Worth a watch. On reflection mostly negative than positive.
@@francodellamura7471I got very cross with it myself.
Thought the BBC had an agenda they were sticking to ie to continue promoting FUD!
Let's sent someone out in an ev with absolutely no knowledge or research about how to charge it.
Let's send them to the remotest and least served areas of the country for chargers and make it look like it's impossible to run an ev anywhere because of the infrastructure.
Oh and let's find as many people who were as daft as he was who'd gone out and got an ev with no research and wondered why the charging was so expensive, no mention of how to make charging cheaper and how it's still cheaper than petrol or diesel.
For good measure and "balance" let's find one person who's so sanguine about the ease with which he's living with his EV that his comments were a sidebar to the shouty Bob's without a clue.😅😅😅😅😅
Yeah I saw it, not impressed, can you tell?! 🙄🤔😄
Chargefinder also useful for seeing the people who stay connected for ages after 100% was reached
Hi Andrew, can you explain why so many apps list charge rates for type 2 outlets (A/C) as greater than 22kW when no car can charge at these rates?
The original Zoe was uniquely able to charge at 43kW on AC, so that’s why. No other EVs (to my knowledge) are able to. 43kW are becoming increasingly rare though.
Flaviana should produce content when you are occupiied. Perhaps a Mrs.EV livestream.
Did you drive back home without the air con? Will we hear your final thoughts on the Megane before it goes back?
I had the air con on the way back as well. Yes, I am hoping to do a long term review before it goes back.
Yeah you better do a video of what Flaviana thinks....🤣🤣♥♥ (No hostility in that statement just anticipation...I need some joy in my life right now and that's just what the doctor ordered).
Very soon, hopefully!
Don't ask her opinion, if she doesn't like it, you may have to return the megane... 😂
In one sentence : The charging curve is the Megane’s biggest flaw. And by far. Because for the rest, this car is really good especially on the driver assistance part.
The 22kW onboard charger is a massive positive though. I agree though, overall the Megane is great.
@@MrEV Oh that I fully agree - 22kw ac is a must. My complaint really only applies to the DC fast charging. And even more so when you’ve been using an e-gmp car before ! 😅
What was the approx cost of the charge?
Mine will arrive in a couple of weeks. When I specced it it didn’t have heat pump but as a factory order does that mean it will now? It’s the techno
As far as I’ve seen only iconic trip gets heat pump. My techno hasn’t still a great car. Keep it a smidge under 70 and you’ll get ok efficiency.
I've owned a Megane since January.
Love to drive it, hate to charge it in public chargers.
Charging curve is really bad.
It's midly acceptable if you are below 10% but will drop very quickly. Once past 60% is already below 50kW.
Trying to charge it with more than 40% is a mistake.
The ODB poor is hanging upside down below the wheel, just between the break pedal and the door. Mine seems to lose power after a day of no power. It's pita to always have to reconnect the ODB.
My Megane goes over 400 km on a full charge. I drove 280 km the other day at 90 - 100 km/h and it still says 130 wh/km. We have very hot weather here in Denmark at the moment.
How did you find it when it was cold?
@@MrEV Still effective at low speed, but above 120 km/h it consumes more. I remember winter at 0 -5 degrees around 200 - 210 wh/km at motorway speed - 120 km/h
Andrew , I have ~ 15k to spend on an EV , upgrading from leaf 40 Tekna . What would you buy ?.
You might (if you're very lucky) be able to get a second-hand Kona, Soul, or Niro for that now. Worth talking to Eco-cars: eco-cars.net
There are a lot of i3s around for that sort of money now too.
Yeah , I do keep looking at the i3 s , I’ll check out eco cars . Thanks , keep up the great content .
Hi
Can you help me with the charging my Renault Megan’s iconic I have last week new from deler, on display showing battery 100% - 230mi.But range is 280mi, anything I missed understand or should I go to service?
The range figure is calculated based on recent journeys. It takes a little time to adjust to your driving style but you should find within a week of driving it, the figure should start going up a bit.
@@MrEV thank you for replying me👍
You didn’t mention the cost of that charging session?
It was 'free' for me as charging is included with Onto, but it'd be £29.18 if I was using the Octopus Electroverse RFID card. £36.60 using IONITY's app.
For anyone regularly doing long distances, there's a service called Elli which gets even better rates with IONITY if you subscribe.
What’s with the too tight to charge at home, is it cheaper to charge at ionity?
Charging is included with my Onto subscription.
Hope to see Tesla holiday journey vid soon.
It's almost the year anniversary!
The Zoe is the same with the power. It's disconnects
I've a Megane etech.Come to charge it at 7% remaining.Cables correct but screen showing "checking in progress" but no sign of charging.RAC saying below 7.5% charge,the car uses electricity to prepare the batteries for charge,1 hour or so, and then the car will start charging.Anybody confirm this is true? or do i have a problem??
I’ll be interested to hear if anyone else has had that issue, but it certainly doesn’t sound right to me. People charge EVs at 0% without having to wait.
Have you tried another rapid? Could it be the charger at fault?
@@MrEV I believe there's a compatibility issue with charger and the Megane.Another brand has compatibility issues and Renault are working on a fix.I've got some charge into the car using Tesco Pod-Point.The saga will continue tomorrow as we've established it's not the car and the focus is on Alfen.
We miss Flaviana’s opinions! 🇮🇹 🤌🏼💥
That's poor economy. We are getting 4.5 miles/kWh routinely from our ID.3 at the moment.
EVERYONE SCRUBBING THRU THE VIDEO TO FIND FLAVIANA
Sorry to disappoint!
Simp
👍👍👍
10 to 80% in approx half an hour is fair, Ionity price isn't 😀
IONITY's relatively cheap these days compared to many networks. I never thought I'd hear myself say that!
@@MrEV Time for another comparison
How much does it cost to charge?
I should have pinned this comment I wrote to someone else who asked the same:
It was 'free' for me as charging is included with Onto, but it'd be £29.18 if I was using the Octopus Electroverse RFID card. £36.60 using IONITY's app.
For anyone regularly doing long distances, there's a service called Elli which gets even better rates with IONITY if you subscribe.
I’ve just realised that a meganne is a French car and not an American narcacist……… but I’d love to plug her into a rapid charger
I have a 60kwh Megane Etech, charging rate is bad.
O never see getting more than 90kwh in peak.
It it is a cold day (less than 14 degrees), it will take one hour ir more to do 20% to 80%, only gets 25 to 50kwh…
"Hey Google: Find me Ionity charger" no need for screen button pressing.
You're right - the voice control is very good. I've become mistrusting of voice assistants in cars since they're usually terrible but the Megane (and I imagine Polestar and Volvos which also use Google) is an exception.
The charging performance is ok but disappointed with the efficiency
0:24 lol - you’ve become one of the Onto users who clogs up rapids! 😉
Nooooo! At least it wasn't to 100%!
Let's be honest though this is a really good charge speed. The Kona, Niro, Atto 3 and Dolphin are all shite.
Can Flaviana at least shout at you in the comments section like "Stop lookinge at your own videoe and start wash the dishes already!" 😁
Don't give her any ideas! Although she never watches my videos anyway, so I'm safe in the knowledge she's unlikely to read your comment!
Charging is 1 of the Megane its weak points.
The Niro kona or a Atto2 charge slower but do arounf the same time.
The chargecurve is just bad Renault realy needs to update this.
For me as a Megane driver already on my 3 ice Megane was realy thinking off this car but there a couple of disadvantiges that the competition just is doing way better.
Problem with Onto is that the incuded charging encourages drivers to charge exclusively on public charging and they then block the chargers at peak periods trying to get to 100% no matter how long the queue.
That's definitely an issue. Onto now offer subscriptions without charging included so hopefully that stops the charger hogging a little.
How does that car NOT have a "heat pump" but DOES have air conditioning?
Air conditioning IS a heat pump. To get a heat pump, you literally just run the coolant in the other direction, no?
Am I missing something? This whole "charge £1k for a heat pump" thing seems like a complete rip off.
Yes, and I'm kicking myself about that! I should know better considering I have air conditioning at home!
@@MrEV I'm now thinking that the AC needs to always be available to cool the battery to prevent damage and the humans just get the excess when they request cooling.
So maybe it does need to have AC to always be available, even if the cabin needs to be warmed.
This is the only thing that makes sense to me as obviously the AC can't produce hot and cold at the same time. Hence the need for a separate system.
I wonder if there is a opportunity to tap into excess heat from the battery. Unsure if current EVs do this (I'm still on a ICE car at the moment)
@@RichardBrooklyn if you are a long time watcher of Bjorn Nyland's videos, he usually manages to dig into if and how the aircon competes with rapid charging speed in one of his tests.
I find it extremely odd that you accept paying the high price of a public charger but are too tight to charge at home when it's proven to be significantly cheaper!
Plus, simply don't put your foot on the break then!
I got charging for free with this car from subscription service Onto.
@@MrEV Ok, I'll have to look into that Onto further. Is that not simply a leasing company however where the lease is relatively expensive per month?
@@barryh9653 Unfortunately they've gone into administration now. They did work out as a relatively good deal for anyone wanting a short-term lease, but they obviously couldn't sustain it.
More info here if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/IcCvKPpaAxE/v-deo.html
@@MrEV That's a shame 😔. I was thinking of using them myself for a month to see how I get on with an EV for that period of time. Unfortunately the website did not have the car I wanted to test in my area.
I bet yout legs look great in shorts 😊
Not sure an EV is a particularly good investment at the moment, what with the continuing expensive public charging, the huge depreciation on EV's over the past 6 months, limited charging network, time added to journeys when you need to charge and worse, very few charging points have any weather protection. I switched from an EV to a Honda Jazz ehev, late last year and regularly see 60-100mpg and don't feel I have any of the EV negatives. Maybe time for a test to experience an alternative option and report on the difference.
It'd be interesting, but I just don't enjoy driving ICE cars as much. I can see how the EV experience right now can be a struggle for some people but for me, charging at home 95% of the time and rarely having issues public charging, I'm happy to put up with any occasional problems while infrastructure catches up.
Anyone buying a used EV right now can get a really good deal but I agree the depreciation on new ones is bad now - although probably about the same as it's always been for ICE?
Omg, the hassle of owning an EV. You have 2 chargers at home, neither of which work properly. You seem to have to download dozens of apps, to accommodate different chargers. Most of which seem to be out of order at regular intervals. And it takes ages to recharge a car. Oh and it's better to have a warm battery than cold. Ffs. I have a very efficient 520d. I don't have to do any of the above. The car does over 50mpg and has a range of over 1,100 kms. I've never seen a garage where ALL the pumps are broken, and I can refill my car in 2 mins. EVs - no thank you.
The home charging issue is just with the Megane; not any other EV I've had. And waking up to a charged car (for 2p per mile) easily makes up for the occasional public charge!
That said, when I had the IONIQ 5 that was an absolute dream for public charging as it's so much faster. (The same would be true with the Kia EV6 and IONIQ 6.) They also pre-heat the battery now so the cold weather doesn't affect the charging speed as much.
I'm going to be driving to Italy again this summer. I really wish I had the IONIQ 5 again for that!
Funny how people with EVs just spend most of their time stating how they have to charge it, where to charge it, how to charge it etc....
In my ICE vehicle I have never needed to or wished to discuss how the some 5 minutes it took to fill it up with a 600-700km range worked out for me...
Yawn.
I charge overnight at home 95% of the time.
5 mins seems like a very long time in comparison..
But ICE drivers do discuss how much it costs to fill the tank. I only charge my EV once a week and it costs me about £8.00.
Great video. You probably know that air conditioning uses a basic form of heat pump so cooling is the same, it’s just heating is where a PTC heater would be used. Now that nerdy reply is done I’m off to the FastNed site to look at my charging curve…. NERD 🙈
@@ObiePaddles I charge completely for free at the moment. How much will I save per year compared to a fossil? I drive around 15000 km/year at the moment.
Any new technology brings with it a transition period. There would have been similar challenges and interest when we moved from horses to combustion engines.