I’m not a fan of Taylor or Beyonce but the fact Taylor has won 4 Album of The Year Awards and Beyonce has 0 is only telling me the irrelevant subjective voting system is either racist or delusional😂
I think that you should say that about Adele as well. 25 was literal crap and so was Midnights. I think Beyonce deserved Aoty for Lemonade in 2016 and Renaissance in 2023. Taylor and Adele have their own incredible work but some of their albums weren't good!
@@rimilchattopadhyayjee also a large majority of the streaming/buying demographic is teenage girls and gay guys so it’s as though her popularity gives her mediocre music passage to undeserved accolades. I don’t like Beyoncé’s music either but her cultural impact, evolution, vocals, choreography etc have been second to absolutely nobody in the last 20 years.
The Weeknd was absolutely robbed in 2021 how does he have one of the most critically aclaimed albums from music reviewers and also one of the most popular songs of all time and get absolutely no nominations
Might tell your dad no mass of people has ever been good enough to do that, ever and its because even if they wanted to wouldnt, people love claiming things as racist and unfair, Jay Z spends every second he is on stage gaslighting the wife he cheated on claiming she has been treated unfairly... like yea mfer you on that list to tf. Its the problem with liberalism, im not republican being in a political party makes you a bad person, all im saying is the worst people ive met in my life, cheaters, pedos, murderers were all liberals, they excuse themselves while blaming others its gross.
I'll add a 4th reason: Black and Brown artist always have to go above and beyond working 20x times harder only to be ignored for another who did it with half the effort and vision... PWPWG.
Yet they are ALL millionaires and have their OWN awards shows on other channels, like BET, And of course the network poor oppressed Oprah owns, OWN? How? Are they deprived
@@icydelight3693 she's still been robbed. The number of nominations minus the number of times she's actually won is still huge than her wins even when she deserved it. They got away with robbing her every time they could
it, aka Andre 3000's "New Blue Sun" album/record, sounds more like: Yo Yo Ma, John Williams ("Star Wars" composer/conductor), Ennio Morricone (Sergio Leone’s "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" the old-fashioned cowboy/western flick), Hans Zimmer ("Gladiator"), the Pure Moods (1991 - Pure Moods 4 (2002) "New-Age" / Lululemon "Yoga Class" music: (Moods 1): "Orinoco Flow" by Enya; "Songbird" by Kenny G, "Tubular Bells Part 1" (opening excerpt: "The Exorcist" horror movie) by Mike Oldfield; Twin Peaks Theme (Instrumental)" by Angelo Badalamenti; the "Chariots of Fire" by Vangelis) and Pure Moods 2 (1992: "Nightingale" by Yanni, "Teardrop (Edit)" by Massive Attack; "Life In A Northern Town" by Dream Academy); Pure Moods 3 (2001; released on CD in 2006): "Porcelain" by Moby; "Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence" by Ryuichi Sakamoto); Pure Moods 4: "Angel" by Sarah McLachlan; Enigma's "Shadows In Silence"; Afro Celt Sound System - "When You're Falling" and Yanni's "One Man's Dream.") (credit: amazon; discogs)
What u mean?? Taylor Swift won album of the year 4 times. 4 times!!! Award shows are the British version of knighting someone because America doesn't establish titles of nobility. How Taylor Swift won 4 times, a record, mind you, and Beyonce not once?? Smh ...
@@nattertube I think it's because those two (and more) have always been vocal about systemic injustice of award shows that it's the anonymous voters way of punishing non-asskissers.
The weeknd stayed #1 artist almost the entire year of 2023 and taylor swift was recognised as the spotify attist of the year. All of the weeknd's songs and albums are of the highest quality and he makes the best music in the world. The statistics show how well loved he is, and despite all of this, he is never recognised and is NEVER, EVER given what he truly deseves. This is so sad
I don't remember a single the weeknd song from 2023 but i did hear "make me sweat, make me louder, make drip my breath.." That's a fact. All this sh* depends on which machine is pushing!
the reason for that is because Taylor Swift was the most streamed artist of 2023, and The Weeknd had the biggest audience (monthly listeners). different things, but I understand your point.
Sorry, i am a weeknd fan but he was really, i mean really missing in 2023. Taylor Swift ruled the year with her million selling copies, massive chart success and the Eras Tour. I am really upset that the weeknd hasn't won a Grammy though!
@@rimilchattopadhyayjeethe reason is that in 2020, After Hours was his best selling album, shattering records that year. But Justin Bieber's worst album "changes" and his worst single "Yummy" won over his album and single "Blinding Lights". He was upset and then decided that he'll never submit an album to the recording academy after that and called them out for being corrupt.
2:26 this is true. Ariana Grande’s ‘Positions’ was a faithfully contemporary r&b album but bc she’s white and branded as Pop Star, it was only nominated in Pop categories. Even if JB & AG’s teams could successfully submit them for r&b categories, that’s also dicey, bc then Ariana and Justin could be accused of “robbery”, “erasure” or “whitewashing” the category same way Macklemore was accused after he won rap Grammys over Kendrick.
@@Catherine.Dorian. for what’s its worth I do believe when Lizzo was nominated she was placed in Pop categories which stood out to me because it’s rare that you get an unambiguous black woman nominated in a Pop category.
@@nameisamine Considering Lizzo.. yeah i can’t see any other category she could belong in, she’s very clearly pop. But you did make such a great point because if I consider Eminem, he had such an issue being accepted as a rapper because of his skin. I still think the Grammys are totally fake (as in who wins) but it’d be nice if artists could be in categories based on their music, not their skin pushing them into or out of certain categories
I really appreciate your points, because I complain about this shit all the time! A lot of people do not understand genres, and the fact that just because something is popular does not make it pop music. Yes, the word pop is short for popular, but it’s also a genre of music that has a specific type of vocals and instrumentation. I say all the time that Ariana Grande fundamentally is an R&B singer. Adele is a soul/jazz singer. Justin Bieber was literally discovered by fucking Usher, and the bulk of his music is R&B. Bruno Mars is funk, r&b, and soul 90% of the time. People really need to stop being ridiculous about the genre of music that people are making? Very annoying. Your comment about Hotline bling was 💯
No offense and I'm not offended by this either but why are Weeknd fans so insistent on calling him by his government name? Like no one calls Lil Wayne Dwayne or Muni Long Priscilla.
“Don’t stop till you get enough” DID win a Grammy though. I just think about the legendary music acts that never won a Grammy. Like😓 QUEEN. “Bohemian Rhapsody, one to the most famous songs ever written, never won a Grammy y’all.
@@mile_851 Great example of society directing their anger towards the wrong thing/individual rather than the actual system. I guess much easier/faster to sleep at night.
I never heard of Kendrick Lamar until he got featured on Taylor swifts song „bad blood“ and for my taste his voice is way too nasally 🤷🏻♂️. And Macklemore „thrift shop“ was a gigantic hit (#1 hit song in several European countries) song, same with can’t hold us down and same love from the album „the heist“ so I understand that he won. Stop hating on artists just because your fav didn’t win or didn’t bring in the success that you wished for them
"Off the Wall" came out my senior year in high school (1979) and it was clearly a pop LP!! Michael got nominated for the best R&B album. Madonna was doing R&B but it was called " Pop ". Racism has and will always exist. Michael put a heavy metal song on Thriller to change their opinions and Prince did the same with Purple Rain and all of a sudden it's a pop album.
@@tshimologokgosi7340 I'm serious. Lamar is a weak rapper. Bad flow and annoying voice. Q-Tip, Rakim, 2Pac, Eminem, OutKast, Beastie Boys, Run the Jewels, Public Enemy are much better.
@@Mindphaser1 at least tell thats only your opinion dawg, the production, flow, instrumental, lyrics, storytelling and so much more on tpab its so good that it has been 9 years since its release and people still find new things about it, thats not an opinion, its just the truth. Tpab is and was so critically acclaimed that the fact it lost just proves grammys suck
The moment No Guidance, a Chris Brown & Drake collab that charted for three years, broke records, was essentially the song of the summer for 2019, is damn near diamond certified and is basically the biggest R&B smash hit since like The Hills by The Weeknd, lost to JoJo and PJ Morton for best R&B song, I knew something was up.
I knew the Grammys were all about popularity and favoritism. With the executives holding the most power. The very moment Nicki Minaj lost the best new artist Grammy to Bon Iver. Everyone in the audience looked confused in perplexed. At the time, Nicki had eight songs on the billboard hot 100.
I was going to put in more stuff like that, but I didnt sant it to get flagged for copyright. I think ill look into more rules about how it works. Thanks for the feed back family!
All your examples are spot on. All your claims are valid. All your reasons seem reasonable. Not quite. In fact they ignore the biggest reason: when you are asking for affirmation from a wider audience, the results will not favor the minorities. It's not just black and white or just in music or arts. It happens in sports, business, technology, everywhere. Ask elite soccer players from Africa playing in European leagues. They earn a fraction of comparable talent. Grammy's tried to address this problem by creating categories that can reward minority genres, niche categories, real experts. Or else not a single black person will win anything. It's called stratification. That's why they have Country, Hispanic, and Global categories. The people running those categories are African American. They do the separations, selections, nominations, and voting. Rightfully you should ask them about why Tyler's Igor was in that category. Here's a hint: they wanted to make sure he went home with an award. No other category would've earned him an award. One last example: the year Gandhi was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, they gave it someone nobody ever heard of. Gandhi never won the Nobel and to this day the committee regrets.
BRUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so happy I saw this video because you have Preached A True Sermon!!!!! Absolutely excellent and right on point. Thank you!!
that album was wild. must have been at the wrong time period. Sometimes when an album is released at the wrong time it cant get nominated, maybe wasnt the case idk
I stopped watching the Grammys years ago. It started that one year when they presented all the awards for rap music n didn't even televise it. A lot of rappers boycotted. Furthermore the artists that deserve awards don't win. So fuck the Grammys
The same thing happened with the movies, with the Oscars and the Emmys. until a few years ago, when every black person decided to stand up and demand a seat at the table then everything changed.
T Pain said that he makes songs for country artist but doesn't put his name on it because he doesnt want to deal with the "politics" 😒. You're most likely right about the 808's in country.
I am a Swiftie since 2007 but I really don't think Taylor deserved Aoty this year. Yes, Midnights was phenomenal and it got the numbers NO ALBUM DID Of the year did but still.. quality wise, SOS was amazing. Also Adele winning Aoty for 25 was really a bummer like Midnights. Lemonade was so critically acclaimed and deserved the win. Yet, i am not mad at Taylor or Adele, they didn't choose their win. It's the recording Academy... They just never diversify!!
It's much worse than that. The first metal/hard rock award was in 1989. It's not only late, but the awards never got it right from the beginning. The first rock album award was in 1995 and again it rarely gets it right. The best blues album started in 2012 and ended in 2016. The first traditional blues album award started in 1983. The Grammy Awards are not trend setters in finding top music in their genres when the award shows don't even recognize these genres until after they aren't popular. Then to top it off, many of the voters don't listen to other genres so they just pick acts at random with famous acts getting first dibs. Are the Grammy awards really that important? Not really. Many famous acts were not nominated and or didn't win such as Jimi Hendrix. Joe Bonamassa has had more number one blues albums of any artist and has three nominations and no wins.
I completely agree with you on these.. but when you say not nominated, what do you mean because MBDTF won Rap Album of the Year in 2012. Did you mean not nominated for Album of the Year?
The should organize a concert for people that did not get nominated in that year. Then have the concert streaming live and clash with the date of the Grammy. I will watch the concert.
The "modern country" argument would only hold water if it were country. No denying that Nelly revolutionized the genre, but I would argue that he made something brand new and we are mistaken for continuing to call it "country".
I don’t disagree with anything you said, so I apologize if I sound dismissive. I just wish to point out that there are even more problems with the silliness that is the Grammys, which is why no one cares about them. For example, no Heavy Metal album has ever been nominated for Album of the Year. Ever. This is despite the fact that Metallica made two unassailable masterpieces, Master of Puppets and And Justice For All, and Guns N’ Roses made one of the greatest debut albums in the history of rock and roll. Other legendary bands with zero nominations include Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, The Smiths, Depeche Mode, Van Halen, The Cure, Nine Inch Nails, The Clash, and Iron Madien. And let’s not forget about great Black artists like Jimi Hendrix and Public Enemy. The Grammys have always been about safe middle-of-the-road pop. And they always will be.
All the bands you mentioned were LEGENDARY. The idea Van Halen doesn’t have a Grammy is ridiculous. I 100% agree with your assessment. Thanks for watching!!
I mostly agree, but I do think it is important to include the whole world into this. E.g. I personally absolutely love the weekend but he is moderately played in Europe. Megan's song savage I don't care for and never have heard it on local radio stations. If the grammy's is meant to represent artistry across the world then some of the proposed songs. e.g. savage are not deserving of a grammy.
As a Swiftie i'm just gonna say we actually do love the Midnights album, but It's not necessarily Taylor's best album... Some of us were rooting for other albums this year.
I see what youre saying, but Yes weve all heard those, but Im talking deep cuts. Money trees doesnt even have a video and the world knows every nook and cranny of that track. But, yes youre right, ive heard a few tracks, should have been more specific. Thanks for watching!!
Macklemore’s story is kinda sad, you can tell he had guilt over his success as a white rapper because he stopped releasing stuff that could be considered as commercially successful
everyone who has won a grammy can become a voter in the process. i kno some jazz musicians who vote, some say they listen to everything and some say they don’t lol
Quite frankly I don't give a sweet fu'k about the Grammys or any freaking celebrities at this place and time, Black people have far more pressing issues to confront, like REPARATIONS AND SEPARATION.
I'm white and I hate the Grammies too! The categories are literally segregated like 1950s south. Hope it changes in the future, but not holding my breath.
I mean, the heist definitely shouldn't have won, but...everyone and their mom heard "thrift shop". It was playing non stop on the radio that year. Cmon man.
It’s not just against the black artists. They separated the non-English speaking artists, even with K Pop artists out selling, out performing, extremely meaningful music they (whomever, they is) are not allowing any nominations for them. It’s a payola game, rigged system yet it flourishes! Streaming, awards, all rigged and it’ll stay that way. Unless and until there’s another system developed but…it’s all about $ and not about the artists or music. But…why is the Grammy’s considered do prestigious? They’re being called out more and more these days but dk if that’ll do anything. Personally I think they should be called out more! Thank you for sharing.
It is about the categories!!!!! They strategically will keep Black people in Black categories. So when it comes to the race for album of the year, there are people that will purposely not vote for certain types of music because of bias. It has been 20 years since a hip hop album has won album of the year. Do yall think there is no hip hop album released in the past 20 years that is deserving of the album of the year award? Not To Pimp a Butterfly or MBTDF or Take Care ... so many albums.
Grammy is not about popularity or stream numbers, so if ur fav singers or songs doesn’t get nominated for Grammy its cuz the singer or the song doesnt good enough to get picked, u not even the pro in music so u can’t decided for it. But i’m really upset why Lana Del Rey or Nicki Minaj till these days doesnt have Grammy on their own for their work of art
Last time a black woman won aoy was 25 years ago Lauren Hill.
And that woman hates being a music artist.
@@mikhelBrown really???
I’m not a fan of Taylor or Beyonce but the fact Taylor has won 4 Album of The Year Awards and Beyonce has 0 is only telling me the irrelevant subjective voting system is either racist or delusional😂
Thaaaank youuuuu
Bruh I swear if I see Taylor in next years Grammys or in another award show
I think that you should say that about Adele as well. 25 was literal crap and so was Midnights. I think Beyonce deserved Aoty for Lemonade in 2016 and Renaissance in 2023. Taylor and Adele have their own incredible work but some of their albums weren't good!
@@rimilchattopadhyayjee also a large majority of the streaming/buying demographic is teenage girls and gay guys so it’s as though her popularity gives her mediocre music passage to undeserved accolades. I don’t like Beyoncé’s music either but her cultural impact, evolution, vocals, choreography etc have been second to absolutely nobody in the last 20 years.
Bey's albums overrated
The Weeknd was absolutely robbed in 2021 how does he have one of the most critically aclaimed albums from music reviewers and also one of the most popular songs of all time and get absolutely no nominations
Illogical
Actually, I think he didn't submit his album or songs for the Grammy's that year
@@aaravyadav3748yes he did.
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He said he did and even complained about not getting nominated
Cause he wanted to perform for the super bowl instead of the grammys
My dad said “they should do a Grammys like show where it’s not just the industry choosing who they want to promote”
I think that would be SICK. real transparent and for the people. All the people. Give your dad a highfive for me
kanye should do it as promo for vultures
Might tell your dad no mass of people has ever been good enough to do that, ever and its because even if they wanted to wouldnt, people love claiming things as racist and unfair, Jay Z spends every second he is on stage gaslighting the wife he cheated on claiming she has been treated unfairly... like yea mfer you on that list to tf. Its the problem with liberalism, im not republican being in a political party makes you a bad person, all im saying is the worst people ive met in my life, cheaters, pedos, murderers were all liberals, they excuse themselves while blaming others its gross.
only award shows that honestly more valid is mtv and amas bc it's at least fair and it's fan voted
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I'll add a 4th reason: Black and Brown artist always have to go above and beyond working 20x times harder only to be ignored for another who did it with half the effort and vision... PWPWG.
So many legends have been robbed, Michael, Whitney, Janet, Aretha, Prince, Beyonce, Mariah, James B, Nat King. Its been through out all history
Beyoncé is the artist who won the most Grammys in history, I wouldn’t say she was robbed
Yet they are ALL millionaires and have their OWN awards shows on other channels, like BET, And of course the network poor oppressed Oprah owns, OWN? How? Are they deprived
@@icydelight3693 she's still been robbed. The number of nominations minus the number of times she's actually won is still huge than her wins even when she deserved it. They got away with robbing her every time they could
How is Beyonce robbed 💀
Beyonce has never been robbed,infact she never deserved to be nominated nor win at all!
it also happens a lot that rap and rnb albums almost never get aoty because they have their own category although they are fully deserving of aoty.
Valid
This is literally utopia and astroworld
Wouldn’t shock me if they put Andre 3000s new album in the rap category 😭
I’m dead💀😂😂😂
@@nattertubeit’s gonna be in the “urban hoodrat” category
it, aka Andre 3000's "New Blue Sun" album/record, sounds more like: Yo Yo Ma, John Williams ("Star Wars" composer/conductor), Ennio Morricone (Sergio Leone’s "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" the old-fashioned cowboy/western flick), Hans Zimmer ("Gladiator"), the Pure Moods (1991 - Pure Moods 4 (2002) "New-Age" / Lululemon "Yoga Class" music: (Moods 1): "Orinoco Flow" by Enya; "Songbird" by Kenny G, "Tubular Bells Part 1" (opening excerpt: "The Exorcist" horror movie) by Mike Oldfield; Twin Peaks Theme (Instrumental)" by Angelo Badalamenti; the "Chariots of Fire" by Vangelis) and Pure Moods 2 (1992: "Nightingale" by Yanni, "Teardrop (Edit)" by Massive Attack; "Life In A Northern Town" by Dream Academy); Pure Moods 3 (2001; released on CD in 2006): "Porcelain" by Moby; "Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence" by Ryuichi Sakamoto); Pure Moods 4: "Angel" by Sarah McLachlan; Enigma's "Shadows In Silence"; Afro Celt Sound System - "When You're Falling" and Yanni's "One Man's Dream.") (credit: amazon; discogs)
funny thing was that certain companies actually did label it as rap
I ain’t hear it was he not rapping on it?
I had no idea those albums you listed were never even nominated that is so insane. Loved this video I never realized how corrupt the Grammys were ….
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What u mean??
Taylor Swift won album of the year 4 times. 4 times!!!
Award shows are the British version of knighting someone because America doesn't establish titles of nobility.
How Taylor Swift won 4 times, a record, mind you, and Beyonce not once?? Smh ...
I don't need the Grammys to tell me what is good. I got my own diamonds from spotify suggestions.
I know dass right
The way my jaw dropped when MBDTF and The Weeknd’s album weren’t nominated
right?!
@@nattertube I think it's because those two (and more) have always been vocal about systemic injustice of award shows that it's the anonymous voters way of punishing non-asskissers.
Whats MBDTF @@cheesecakelasagna
The weeknd stayed #1 artist almost the entire year of 2023 and taylor swift was recognised as the spotify attist of the year. All of the weeknd's songs and albums are of the highest quality and he makes the best music in the world. The statistics show how well loved he is, and despite all of this, he is never recognised and is NEVER, EVER given what he truly deseves. This is so sad
I don't remember a single the weeknd song from 2023 but i did hear "make me sweat, make me louder, make drip my breath.." That's a fact. All this sh* depends on which machine is pushing!
the reason for that is because Taylor Swift was the most streamed artist of 2023, and The Weeknd had the biggest audience (monthly listeners). different things, but I understand your point.
@@beckybecky9643 wow, I really didn't know that these were two different things. Thanks for the words of enlightenment.
Sorry, i am a weeknd fan but he was really, i mean really missing in 2023. Taylor Swift ruled the year with her million selling copies, massive chart success and the Eras Tour. I am really upset that the weeknd hasn't won a Grammy though!
@@rimilchattopadhyayjeethe reason is that in 2020, After Hours was his best selling album, shattering records that year. But Justin Bieber's worst album "changes" and his worst single "Yummy" won over his album and single "Blinding Lights". He was upset and then decided that he'll never submit an album to the recording academy after that and called them out for being corrupt.
2:26 this is true. Ariana Grande’s ‘Positions’ was a faithfully contemporary r&b album but bc she’s white and branded as Pop Star, it was only nominated in Pop categories. Even if JB & AG’s teams could successfully submit them for r&b categories, that’s also dicey, bc then Ariana and Justin could be accused of “robbery”, “erasure” or “whitewashing” the category same way Macklemore was accused after he won rap Grammys over Kendrick.
Huh, I never thought of it going that way as well. But you’re right it really does
@@Catherine.Dorian. for what’s its worth I do believe when Lizzo was nominated she was placed in Pop categories which stood out to me because it’s rare that you get an unambiguous black woman nominated in a Pop category.
@@nameisamine Considering Lizzo.. yeah i can’t see any other category she could belong in, she’s very clearly pop. But you did make such a great point because if I consider Eminem, he had such an issue being accepted as a rapper because of his skin. I still think the Grammys are totally fake (as in who wins) but it’d be nice if artists could be in categories based on their music, not their skin pushing them into or out of certain categories
I really appreciate your points, because I complain about this shit all the time! A lot of people do not understand genres, and the fact that just because something is popular does not make it pop music. Yes, the word pop is short for popular, but it’s also a genre of music that has a specific type of vocals and instrumentation.
I say all the time that Ariana Grande fundamentally is an R&B singer. Adele is a soul/jazz singer. Justin Bieber was literally discovered by fucking Usher, and the bulk of his music is R&B. Bruno Mars is funk, r&b, and soul 90% of the time.
People really need to stop being ridiculous about the genre of music that people are making? Very annoying.
Your comment about Hotline bling was 💯
I appreciate your attention to detail!! This is all fact. thanks for watching!
Do an Abel/The Weeknd Cosplay you look a lot like him 😭
lmao I get that a lot🤣
No offense and I'm not offended by this either but why are Weeknd fans so insistent on calling him by his government name? Like no one calls Lil Wayne Dwayne or Muni Long Priscilla.
@@yk-who-it-is IYKYK
“Don’t stop till you get enough” DID win a Grammy though. I just think about the legendary music acts that never won a Grammy. Like😓 QUEEN. “Bohemian Rhapsody, one to the most famous songs ever written, never won a Grammy y’all.
Beyoncé's country album will tell the tale. Her country album will be in the R&B category for sure!
The disgust for Macklemore is valid
Nah, I think he's cool about it tho. The Grammy's did him dirty tho. But, Kendrick and Macklemore were cool about it.
he didn't choose to win over kendrick nor disrespected him. People took it too far attacking Macklemore
I actually did love the Heist album because of the messages it had and I thought it did deserve the grammy, but not as much as Kendrick.
@@mile_851 Great example of society directing their anger towards the wrong thing/individual rather than the actual system. I guess much easier/faster to sleep at night.
I never heard of Kendrick Lamar until he got featured on Taylor swifts song „bad blood“ and for my taste his voice is way too nasally 🤷🏻♂️. And Macklemore „thrift shop“ was a gigantic hit (#1 hit song in several European countries) song, same with can’t hold us down and same love from the album „the heist“ so I understand that he won. Stop hating on artists just because your fav didn’t win or didn’t bring in the success that you wished for them
I completely agree, macklemore really did perform the heist on gkmc
"Off the Wall" came out my senior year in high school (1979) and it was clearly a pop LP!! Michael got nominated for the best R&B album. Madonna was doing R&B but it was called " Pop ". Racism has and will always exist. Michael put a heavy metal song on Thriller to change their opinions and Prince did the same with Purple Rain and all of a sudden it's a pop album.
1989 over Tpab was crazy
1989 is a great album, though. I'd say it's all killer, no filler. It deserved to win.
@@Mindphaser1 I'm reporting you for misinformation
@@Mindphaser1compared to TPAB? You can’t be serious 😂
@@tshimologokgosi7340 I'm serious. Lamar is a weak rapper. Bad flow and annoying voice. Q-Tip, Rakim, 2Pac, Eminem, OutKast, Beastie Boys, Run the Jewels, Public Enemy are much better.
@@Mindphaser1 at least tell thats only your opinion dawg, the production, flow, instrumental, lyrics, storytelling and so much more on tpab its so good that it has been 9 years since its release and people still find new things about it, thats not an opinion, its just the truth. Tpab is and was so critically acclaimed that the fact it lost just proves grammys suck
The moment No Guidance, a Chris Brown & Drake collab that charted for three years, broke records, was essentially the song of the summer for 2019, is damn near diamond certified and is basically the biggest R&B smash hit since like The Hills by The Weeknd, lost to JoJo and PJ Morton for best R&B song, I knew something was up.
honestly this video explains alot about the grammy's in a very simple and fun way
Im glad you liked it! :)
I knew the Grammys were all about popularity and favoritism. With the executives holding the most power. The very moment Nicki Minaj lost the best new artist Grammy to Bon Iver. Everyone in the audience looked confused in perplexed. At the time, Nicki had eight songs on the billboard hot 100.
Valid takes I completely agree I wish you put some clips or snippets about what they said or the hit songs , like the Billie eilish speech
I was going to put in more stuff like that, but I didnt sant it to get flagged for copyright. I think ill look into more rules about how it works. Thanks for the feed back family!
@@nattertube keep up the videos been back to back to back hits for me your going places
Bless!!!
After Hours not even being nominated after literally being EVERYWHERE was insane to me
this is why fan voted awards are always superior.
how do u have less than 400 subscribers, this type of content deserves millions
famm. I appreciate the love!
This video was too short. I need more rants on this 😭
fam! check out my channel, its rant city lol
All your examples are spot on. All your claims are valid. All your reasons seem reasonable. Not quite. In fact they ignore the biggest reason: when you are asking for affirmation from a wider audience, the results will not favor the minorities. It's not just black and white or just in music or arts. It happens in sports, business, technology, everywhere. Ask elite soccer players from Africa playing in European leagues. They earn a fraction of comparable talent.
Grammy's tried to address this problem by creating categories that can reward minority genres, niche categories, real experts. Or else not a single black person will win anything. It's called stratification. That's why they have Country, Hispanic, and Global categories.
The people running those categories are African American. They do the separations, selections, nominations, and voting. Rightfully you should ask them about why Tyler's Igor was in that category. Here's a hint: they wanted to make sure he went home with an award. No other category would've earned him an award.
One last example: the year Gandhi was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, they gave it someone nobody ever heard of. Gandhi never won the Nobel and to this day the committee regrets.
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Yachty not getting a nom for lets start here was wild to me
that album was wild. must have been at the wrong time period. Sometimes when an album is released at the wrong time it cant get nominated, maybe wasnt the case idk
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The fact that Taylor Swift has more Grammy wins than Prince baffles me. Especially since as of late, she's mostly been re-recording her old work.
im white and i hate the grammys everyone hates the grammys
White savior complex
@Desiray77 white ppl do bro Taylor fucking swift exists
Ngl i thought it was the weekend at the start
Lol I get that a lot
it's also wild how the last rap album to win aoty was more than a decade ago
Check out BET network and the network OWN that poor oppressed millionaire Oprah owns, mostly all black award shows 😅
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I stopped watching the Grammys years ago. It started that one year when they presented all the awards for rap music n didn't even televise it. A lot of rappers boycotted. Furthermore the artists that deserve awards don't win. So fuck the Grammys
The same thing happened with the movies, with the Oscars and the Emmys. until a few years ago, when every black person decided to stand up and demand a seat at the table then everything changed.
The fact that even the people who win the awards are calling this out says everything
Im sayin tho
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I 99% of the time only listen to hip hop or rap but i have funnily enough heard 1 song off the heist
You are sooo educated...thank youbro
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The only song that I remember that Macklemore and Ryan Lewis had released was thrift shop
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@@nattertubethank you! I also think that Black celebrities and audiences can try boycotting the Grammys in the coming years so we can spark change
T Pain said that he makes songs for country artist but doesn't put his name on it because he doesnt want to deal with the "politics" 😒. You're most likely right about the 808's in country.
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The Grammy's represents 66 years of systematic mistreatment of Black genius. I will never watch it again.
I am a Swiftie since 2007 but I really don't think Taylor deserved Aoty this year. Yes, Midnights was phenomenal and it got the numbers NO ALBUM DID Of the year did but still.. quality wise, SOS was amazing. Also Adele winning Aoty for 25 was really a bummer like Midnights. Lemonade was so critically acclaimed and deserved the win. Yet, i am not mad at Taylor or Adele, they didn't choose their win. It's the recording Academy... They just never diversify!!
It's much worse than that. The first metal/hard rock award was in 1989. It's not only late, but the awards never got it right from the beginning. The first rock album award was in 1995 and again it rarely gets it right. The best blues album started in 2012 and ended in 2016. The first traditional blues album award started in 1983. The Grammy Awards are not trend setters in finding top music in their genres when the award shows don't even recognize these genres until after they aren't popular. Then to top it off, many of the voters don't listen to other genres so they just pick acts at random with famous acts getting first dibs.
Are the Grammy awards really that important? Not really. Many famous acts were not nominated and or didn't win such as Jimi Hendrix. Joe Bonamassa has had more number one blues albums of any artist and has three nominations and no wins.
The last time I cared about the Grammys...when MJ set his record wins ( then ) in 1984...he deserved every fucking thing he won that year!
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I completely agree with you on these.. but when you say not nominated, what do you mean because MBDTF won Rap Album of the Year in 2012. Did you mean not nominated for Album of the Year?
yes I did, Should have been more specific. Thanks for watching!
As a kid, I became familiar with every song on The Heist. K Dot is a beast, but that doesn't make Macklemore trash
Your content should be longer, I was starting to enjoy it lol
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You're spitting factssss
The should organize a concert for people that did not get nominated in that year. Then have the concert streaming live and clash with the date of the Grammy. I will watch the concert.
Still not one Grammy for Snoop Dogg in any category...let that sink in and then see why we hate the Grammys
I still don’t understand why it work😂😂when you were explaining it I got even more confused
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All excellent points.
I honestly gave up on the grammys years ago. They literally give Grammys to the same 4-5 people every year and they keep doing Travis Scott dirty tbh
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"SEPARATE THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY FROM rocks" that part 😭
I love rocks, can't lie
The "modern country" argument would only hold water if it were country. No denying that Nelly revolutionized the genre, but I would argue that he made something brand new and we are mistaken for continuing to call it "country".
I don’t disagree with anything you said, so I apologize if I sound dismissive. I just wish to point out that there are even more problems with the silliness that is the Grammys, which is why no one cares about them. For example, no Heavy Metal album has ever been nominated for Album of the Year. Ever. This is despite the fact that Metallica made two unassailable masterpieces, Master of Puppets and And Justice For All, and Guns N’ Roses made one of the greatest debut albums in the history of rock and roll. Other legendary bands with zero nominations include Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, The Smiths, Depeche Mode, Van Halen, The Cure, Nine Inch Nails, The Clash, and Iron Madien. And let’s not forget about great Black artists like Jimi Hendrix and Public Enemy. The Grammys have always been about safe middle-of-the-road pop. And they always will be.
All the bands you mentioned were LEGENDARY. The idea Van Halen doesn’t have a Grammy is ridiculous. I 100% agree with your assessment. Thanks for watching!!
Im so sick of us black folks constantly being put in a box.
I mostly agree, but I do think it is important to include the whole world into this. E.g. I personally absolutely love the weekend but he is moderately played in Europe. Megan's song savage I don't care for and never have heard it on local radio stations. If the grammy's is meant to represent artistry across the world then some of the proposed songs. e.g. savage are not deserving of a grammy.
Wasn't surprising Taylor Swift one
I think this is the one album even her fans don't like.
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As a Swiftie i'm just gonna say we actually do love the Midnights album, but It's not necessarily Taylor's best album... Some of us were rooting for other albums this year.
Macklemore winning instead of Kendrick that really pissed me off
This guy is spitting facts! Give him a grammy for rap song
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@4:44 Beyoncé's self-titled actually was nominated. It lost to Beck's album in 2015.
1:30 What about the fact that Gospel and blues is represented at the grammy's, a long side Reggae.
The title should be “ the real reason the Grammys hate black artists”.
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Well Record of the Year is a prize for the best producer. And Billie Eilish’s song All I ever Wanted was the best produced song of the night.
I feel like Hotline Bling could be called melodic rap
Funny enough diamonds are practically worthless .
Okay i agree with everything but even you heard a song of The Heist...Thrift Shop? Can't Hold Us?
I see what youre saying, but Yes weve all heard those, but Im talking deep cuts. Money trees doesnt even have a video and the world knows every nook and cranny of that track. But, yes youre right, ive heard a few tracks, should have been more specific. Thanks for watching!!
You trolling
Macklemore’s story is kinda sad, you can tell he had guilt over his success as a white rapper because he stopped releasing stuff that could be considered as commercially successful
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everyone who has won a grammy can become a voter in the process. i kno some jazz musicians who vote, some say they listen to everything and some say they don’t lol
Quite frankly I don't give a sweet fu'k about the Grammys or any freaking celebrities at this place and time, Black people have far more pressing issues to confront, like REPARATIONS AND SEPARATION.
I'm white and I hate the Grammies too! The categories are literally segregated like 1950s south. Hope it changes in the future, but not holding my breath.
i was waiting for KD3 to win the best album of the year but damn
I aint mad about micheal tho
@@quandale_dingle6353 same tho
I mean, the heist definitely shouldn't have won, but...everyone and their mom heard "thrift shop". It was playing non stop on the radio that year. Cmon man.
Donna Summer won the first Rock Female Artist of the year. 1979.
It’s not just against the black artists. They separated the non-English speaking artists, even with K Pop artists out selling, out performing, extremely meaningful music they (whomever, they is) are not allowing any nominations for them. It’s a payola game, rigged system yet it flourishes! Streaming, awards, all rigged and it’ll stay that way. Unless and until there’s another system developed but…it’s all about $ and not about the artists or music. But…why is the Grammy’s considered do prestigious? They’re being called out more and more these days but dk if that’ll do anything. Personally I think they should be called out more! Thank you for sharing.
It is about the categories!!!!! They strategically will keep Black people in Black categories. So when it comes to the race for album of the year, there are people that will purposely not vote for certain types of music because of bias. It has been 20 years since a hip hop album has won album of the year. Do yall think there is no hip hop album released in the past 20 years that is deserving of the album of the year award? Not To Pimp a Butterfly or MBTDF or Take Care ... so many albums.
After hours was the biggest robbery of all
Grammy is not about popularity or stream numbers, so if ur fav singers or songs doesn’t get nominated for Grammy its cuz the singer or the song doesnt good enough to get picked, u not even the pro in music so u can’t decided for it. But i’m really upset why Lana Del Rey or Nicki Minaj till these days doesnt have Grammy on their own for their work of art
Beyonce's self titled was nomitated for album of the year but lost to Beck
Agreed !!!
Just because he’s telling some facts, doesn’t mean he can also spread hatred 🙄
yo broski i promise you they dont care about the music, they care about the image of the artist .
prince 1999 they said it was a soul album