I Obtained Blood Torva! - Awakened Boss Breakdowns & DT2 Discussion
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- This is the most fun I've had playing OSRS since getting into PvM.
F.A.Q is below to help answer some things!
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Awakened Bosses are "hard mode" versions of the normal DT2 Bosses.
They have ~2x damage & HP, as well as more mechanics.
Right now they're the hardest base content in game, and I would go as far as to say that they require a higher quality of pure mechanical skill than even many speedruns - although speedruns have a different skillset that are much more complex than just mechanical skill.
F.A.Q from common stream questions:
Q: Why not x/y/z item instead of what you're using?
A: Awakened bosses have different stats and cannot have defence reduced.
Q: Why not ely/tank gear?
A: These bosses have too high accuracy/damage to tank. You need to play near-perfect and flick correctly/not take damage via movement/action rather than hoping to tank.
Q: Why not use x/y/z method (e.g double rockfall Lev)
A: I like to play my own way, and I determined many methods such as 2x rockfalling Lev don't truly impact the overall success rate much. If i was to redo this and refine strategy/tactics over time then I would 100% incorporate those methods. Considering this was a day 1 endeavour many of my methods are not going to be meta.
Q: Why not use menaphite remedy/pneck
A: Pneck I actually found useful at Lev, while remedy was very hit and miss depending on the bossess. It's probably a safe bet that for some setups they can play a part, but since this is such high tier content, it's likely each player attempting this should also tailor their setup to match their strengths and weaknessess.
If there's any other questions that frequently come up I'll try to add them here!
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Wow that vardorvis fight. You did it the react method without skipping. Major props. Thats insane.
This update was a huge breath of fresh air for me. i doubt ill be trying awakened bosses anytime soon. GZ on the accomplishment and I'm glad to hear that you also enjoyed the update :D
Love the self-reflection about duke. Awesome video as always!
LMAO that ending. As a not sooooo sweaty gamer I’m really happy for you. Something for the HLC is nice and good for the game long term!
My only qualm about the entire release is that, whilst I think the ring mechanics are good, and I definitely would like to see it used more, I don't think DT2 was the right time to do it. They dropped 4 cool bosses at the same time, but also introduce a drop mechanic that actively punishes you if you don't camp just 1 boss. I would love to spend some time at each boss, hop around, keep it interesting, but the ring mechanic discourages trying out all of the content. During a single boss release, this mechanic would have been fine, I think however it was the only oversight by Jagex to introduce it during a multi-boss release.
completely missing the axe drop mechanic, literally forcing you to spend time at each boss, hop around and keeping it interesting, but ok.
The ring mechanic is terrible.
Its cool seeing how RS bosses have evolved from the simple God wars dungeon bosses to these new ones with more mechanics, it shows that RS can produce more engaging and fun bosses
GZ on blood torva, best looking set in the game! Hope this is how bosses will be going forward, I feel as though learning them has made me improve significantly thus far
Great gameplay. Favorite part was the end rant about DT2. Hoping for more content like this - haven't felt like this about old school in a while
So refreshing to hear positive things from people regarding jagex and the game overall
53:00 I have my new ZCB spec sound, thank you very much
I came for the ramble at the end lol. Just finished the quest and am looking forward to sending some bosses :)
congrats king. was an absolute blast watching you and Synq yesterday, seeing you guys figure stuff out was next level. the fights look cracked, excited to hear the discussion about them now.
Damn I even struggled on the quest version of Leviathan this is just crazy. Congrats!
Seen a few of your videos now and I gotta say I like your outlook on the game and your playstyle. A lot of super endgame players seem to almost involuntarily obsess over efficiency and optimize individual ticks to the point where it's overwhelming to listen to them---you're clearly also in that skill level but seem very chill lol
definitely been stuck in that mindset before, game is 10x more fun playing freely and playing how i want to/not worrying about meta or minmax, cheers!
@@aatykonI recently discovered your content and also really appreciate this quality. Been trying to learn inferno and your runs have been by far the most helpful in large part because of the mindset you're able to approach the game with
@@aatykon this was a great video overall man, loved watching you streaming the blood torva run as well. keep it up!
The enraged part of Awakened Leviathan looked absolutely insane, holy shit. Blood Torva looks so epic. Congrats man.
It’s pretty easy
@@jigglemahnut6493 this was day 1 lil bro, things always get easy after a month
@@Bamblagram over 1 month later.. do you have blood torva? if not, why not? it's "easy," isn't it?
@@madsulrik5rs why are you @ing me lmfao
Thank you for explaining more about the rings drop rates. I spooned pretty much everything on my Ironman and it drastically cut my playtime. It’s become a common theme in my RuneScape playtime. Get excited to grind boss for drop and spoon it, then proceed to not play.
On the opposite end, I have a separate iron that went insanely dry on an item and I quit many times during that grind.
Gratz gamer was super fun watching you grind vardorvis live!
Very happy I was able to watch you do these
I truly hope Jagex sees how much hype there was over this
Talking with a few of the mods and they're very pleased with the release. This was definitely one of those that could have gone either way but it's worked out tremendously well.
@aatykon I agree I'm just happy the players that have been doing the same end game content over and over and over for the last ....5... years have something new to speed run l0l
As someone who went 2800 kc for youngllef and currently 79 purples with no staff I welcome the ring rng mechanic. Appreciate your take on this and I'm similarly optimistic for the future of pvm in osrs
TOA taught me the usefulness of game sounds. There are a bunch of places I use sound now to flick prayers, definitely leviathan.
Congrats aaty! Figured you would be one of the first to get blood torva. Glad these bosses provide a nice test even for the highest level PvM players.
sync was 1st i think
“One of the”
@@Gmaneeeeesync was first i think 🤓🤓
@@blitzzxx synq way better at pvm den errone dat dude 1st in da world smokeeed err1 by a fukn mile
How the hell am I gonna do this
practice, build up to it, try improve mechanics via speedrunning/inferno tasks/pushing yourself in content!
@@aatykon I love your vibes man, make more shit we love having you here
I can't even get torva 🤣
I’m sure ass hell not buying orbs right now just to get smacked in seconds
@@samanthawheeler3123not with that attitude
1 Billion GP Prize regular DT2 bosses challenge begins in a few days! If you want to compete and submit a run join my Discord: discord.gg/nTK7uQG
Best/most interesting runs will be livestreamed/in video a bit later on too!
Awakened Zulrah/Vorkath/Muspah/Corp when? lets advocate for them! Great job aaty!
i'd love to see new bosses/content with a similar difficulty every ~1 year or so, but maybe not old ones revamped :P
thanks!
This looks so fun can’t wait to be home for the weekend and hopefully smash 3/4 of them
ty for this, been ill this past week so looking forward to heading into these bosses, I think ur prediction on players with blood torva is a bit low - there are some gamers out there!
Nice job aaty, i watched your streams day 1. Just got my awakened vardorvis kill on mobile
you're insane!
Classic aaty W on this ramble section. It makes me wonder if you would go as far to say as the team should consider applying this 'RNG protection' to the Tbow with the upcoming CoX changes, which you seemed to hint at? It's one of the few items I could see this bell curve tightening being well recieved once the player base had the time to experience it, yet I think it unlikely that it would pass if polled because of how it's considered "legacy" content
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Where did you get your Hallowed Sepulchre tile markers? They seem quite useful, I am looking to upgrade mine. Would be much appreciated if you could mention where to find these.
Kinda funny to watch this a few weeks after. There are approximately 3k players with blood torva right now, which just shows how good we are as players are. Orbs are also still 2.5m. So can't wait for Ca's coming soon ;)
Imo It shows we overestimate on release difficulty, and that methods can make up for skill to accomplish tasks.
In addition over 50% of blood torva is bought, similar to infernal capes
Great video! thank u sharing. im working on the blood torva kit myself. hopefully i get it soon :p
how do we get those sick leaves on the interface? got a download link? Awesome video as always
thats a stream overlay im afraid :p
aaty I noticed you don’t blink a whole lot during the fights 😅 when i started counting it was over a minute before you blinked a few times during Whisperer for example, has your eye doctor mentioned that at all to you when you got glasses/go in? Mine does, and I never realize I’m barely blinking when I’m gaming hardcore. That’s a huge part of my eye damage/eye sight degrading with glasses
Nice video - one small correction: the white orb that spawns during Leviathan enrage can spawn southeast (and I'm guessing southwest too) as well. I think it has to do with where the player is and if they're currently standing on one of the spawn locations, but I've had two attempts where I'm standing northwest assuming it's going to spawn northeast and it spawns southeast 🤷♂
It spawns in the same corner unless there's a boulder in the way on the awakened version. Don't know about the normal version though
great video, great opinions on all the bosses. I did not have high hopes for this and this video has definetly changed my mind. I am very excited to try it out, thanks for your widsom aaty! cant wait to figure more methods out over time
good luck! there's definitely going to be some great videos detailing methods and approaches that will help players immensely
@@aatykon thanks man, ill have to stream again for it. cant wait!
Begging question: how tf do you transmog the hood? Looks so much nicer than the helm! Super sick video. Can’t wait to try these myself one day.
Was a blast watching you and the other streamers bang their heads on this, reminded me alot of tob release
Enjoyed the video! 👍👍 gz on Blorva!! Do you like that awakened boss attempts are locked behind orbs? I’m an ironman, but i don’t mind it personally. I think its interesting economically to see how supply/demand will keep up for them long term. Admittedly I would love the kit to pimp out my torva, but I also don’t mind content being harder or less accessible for irons. That is essentially what we signed up for after all!
honestly a super great vid. i really didnt think about how the drop mechanics could just help pace out a main account rather than them just skipping over a lot of gameplay effort by getting very lucky. grats on the blood torva bro, i had a lot of fun listening to the streams while at work :)
appreciate it, thanks man
How do you get that tornado and white orb overlay at leviathan? Better NPC highlight? Do you know the ID's?
On the talk about how the rings drop, the only part I'm lost on is if you have to roll 3 times to get a ring, doesn't that mean you could go dry 3x getting that ring as well? unless i'm misunderstanding, it feels like nothing really changes other than the chance of spooning a ring is harder since you have to get spooned 3x? Either way I'm here for it however it works, DT2 was amazing and watching you get blood torva was incredible! Thanks for the great content Aatykon!
It’s the exact same as the venator bow, conceptually speaking. You need 5 1/100 drops to make the bow. You’re less several orders of magnitude less likely to go 2000 kc dry on getting 5 1/100 drops rather than 1 1/500 drop.
Now, the exact same logic applies to the rings, except the “shards” are invisible drops that get replaced by normal loot.
when you say you' flicked by sounds on enraged levi do you just let one hit (pray accordingly) and get in the cycle? I haven't started awakened yet (idk if i ever will). Does the audio sounds right before it hits or right as its launched? Im sure getting in there and experienced it will give me my answer, but im curious. Awesome vid and massive gzzz, soz for the spam coffee hittin well
cant say i know off the top of my head, as you said some experience will give you the correct answer.
based on orb distance away from your model it shouldn be too hard to catch the initial hit though.
I've been a gamer my whole life but stuff like this I can never see myself being able to do
in terms of combat achievements, how do you think the awakened versions will be included? 1 kc of each for master and all 4 for gm?
can someone please explain how you take the screenshot and have it pop up so fast? i feel like theres not enough time to go to the folder and open the screenshot after taking it
with regards to the drop rates, it could be possible that jagex are watching all accounts that get on the drop table twice and will ban bots before they get the 3rd and secure the drop.
I think the problem with the new drop system is that players will quit the boss after getting the ring drop. Knowing they are at 0/3 again.
the effective gp/hr of ring is much more consistent and it's extremely high (and will likely stay high ~@20m/hr) if players feel that way i think they need to change their mindset. rng can go both ways and most experienced players should realise on average the luck evens out regardless. i appreciate people can feel like that just dont personaly think thats a problem
I think bosses are really fun and short with great reward which should keep players around.
@@aatykonno shot it stays 20m/hr. It's probably 10m hr already
@@minotaur830 it's going down as people are hitting their first rings but i expect they'll swap bossess or move around after that and we'll see a rebound for a while. Either way even 10m/hr not including drops/other uniques is great
In whisperer on the quest version I only killed the yellow ghosts saying "Vita" which stops her curse completely! I imagine this is the same in awakened version you just have more ghosts saying it, if you can hit all of them saying that, and ignoring the others, venator bow would not be necessary, allowing more food and a Rada's Blessing 4 for additional prayer!
The priority in awakened is to kill the ones who say Sanitas, sanity is your main focus on that boss
Do the awakened versions yield better drop rates for the uniques? @aatykon
i was really happy when i knew no bosses are like muspah , where you gotta do a 8-way every 15 ticks
Isn't Scythe still better at Duke awakened than Fang with Bellator, even without BGS specs?
Should I be grinding the new bosses for the axe/virtus/ring or woudl grinding toa for a staff then buying these items in a few weeks be a smart move ?
ring gp/hr is ~15-20M+ right now, and should maintain that. toa max eff is also ~15m/hr and both are consistent in teams.
since you dont have staff, these bosses are actually insane gp, so sticking to them should be the play imo (however do what you find fun)
what are the npc is for leviathan's tornado and the white orb in enrage?
:batchest: blood torva what’s next holy virtus
Is the ‘flicking based on sound’ only relevant for awakened enrage phase or can it be applied to normal enrage phase?
Flicking based on sound can be applied to literally anything in the game. If you can learn to flick by sound (if applicable) it will always free up your eyes for something else to be dealt with.
Do you think this will be a req for gm achievements?
Im wondering if shadow or smoke barrage would do anything to blind the duke during his eye attack.
I was wondering... How would you do leviathan with sounds? His orbs hit you way after they make the sound 🤔
You identify what it is based on sound and flick accordingly later on. Its easier than it sounds
Do the awakened bosses have a higher drop rate for their drops
The link in the description that redirects to your twitch is broken btw
Great video man!
Wow on Duke they've mixed the spawn order of the vents. They are normally predictable!
Yo how r u passively regaining Sanity? I'm struggling with this one more than vardorvis lol
Send another awakened whisperer when u get the chance, I believe they've changed it and it seems exceptionally harder without any passive sanity regen lol
What plugin for transparent thralls?
I'd definitely attempt this if it didn't cost 1m+ per attempt. Whisperer basically requires you to have a shadow unless you get to passively regain sanity (which sometimes doesnt happen..?). I think it does make sense though as its for a cosmetic version of Torva.. If you have Torva you basically got all the gear you'll need already anyways
When you say the Masori mask is tranmog what do yoh mean how can you wear that hood :(? So confused
transmog plugin lets you change the look of any item into any other item, i dont like masori mask look so i just change it to avas max hood for the fashionscape
@@aatykon thanks so much
I’ve seen servers already starting to advertise for potential Blood Torva boosting services in “near future” (most likely waiting for metas to be created for each boss). I think your 250 prediction would be right assuming no boosting but unless Jagex really cracks down on it I think it will be a lot more. I can’t possibly imagine why people would fork out possibly hundreds of mills for a flex cosmetic they never even earned while also comprising their account, but that’s OSRS players for you I guess lmao. Can’t wait to see some dude walking around with Blorva and cheese cape looking for a team at TOB 😂
Aaty, I think that there will be 250 *legitimate* blood torvas by end of year, though I'm sure that the black market may result in a larger quantity.
Definitely agree with transmogging the Masori Helm. It looks very out of place for OSRS imo.
I didn’t see any update on the homepage saying the awakened bosses were released
it was on the blogpost a few days back at the bottom, new spreads super fast if you watch any twitch streams regarding this stuff though so people were hyped for a while
whats tornado true tile/outline id?
I cant imagine vard will be that hard, its basically only one more prayer click than im used to by now, i just camp one tile out from pillar and skip the axe spawn when they move, run back and run into middle if theres an opposing axe
i gave the whisperer a shot and ur right, not too bad/different from the regular version. But I kept running into what I think is a bug where in half the fights, my sanity wouldn't passively regen, which makes it basically unbeatable (2-3m down the drain every time I noticed this happening). Did u or anyone you know encounter this when doing awakened Whisperer?
the sanity management is super important, i believe that's just a feature of awakened wisp where you need to duck out of the shadow realm asap in a few of the specials
@@aatykon yeah i understand you have to dip in and out and memorize on orbs and pillars (seems there's no viable way to do it for ghosts though?). What I mean is, on half my attempts my sanity bar wouldn't passively regen when outside of the shadow realm. This makes it basically impossible to complete as you won't get to the enrage phase with enough sanity, as there's inevitably some unavoidable sanity drain that adds up over the fight.
ghosts should restore your sanity meter though so id imagine they're net profit, im still not sure about it being bugged or not i just didnt really notice it overall im afraid
@@aatykon Having watched both u and synq its definitely either bugged or some hidden mechanic. If you didn't passively regen sanity you wouldn't have gotten the kill when you did, and during synq's attempts his sanity was only regained during the ghosts/running puzzle, never passively.
What’s the transmog for mask
I was motivated to get a mutagen but now I wonder if it's even worth it with blood torva helmet!
You think anyone can do these bosses with enough practice or do you feel you gotta be levels above to even attempt them. Also do you think killing each of them will have a GM task tied to them in future?
its definitely a good step above gm ca, which is 100% dooable by anyone (purely going by mechanical skill requirement).
i think this one is too difficult to add to ca, it would have to go in a flex tier alongside stuff like nopillar inferno/solo hard mode tob.
three letters sums this up.. RS3
I think 200 is a low estimate. I'd guess 500
Overall I love the mechanics and difficulty of the Awakened bosses, but I hate that access to the bosses is gated. It's awful, filler content. They originally tried this with the inferno where their very first iteration was that every attempt at the inferno required a new fire cape sacrifice. Players hated this and they luckily changed it (but funnily enough this still exists in a roundabout form through Turael skipping for speedrunners, which players also hate).
In the end, it just means that before you actually get to do the difficult / engaging content, you have to farm for a whole bunch. You can't practice without access to another account. It just pads out the experience with filler content. Gated access is just terrible.
I agree, should just cost 1 orb each boss to permanently have access to the awakened version
I thought I could remember there being a time when you had to sacrifice a fire cape per attempt at the Inferno, but I can't find anything about it at all. Is this a mandala effect thing?
@@toastwiz I did some research in the original Dev blog forum posts. From the way people were talking there, it was just a wording issue and they didn't intend for you to spend a fire cape each time. They reworded the Dev blog to be clearer because a lot of people on the forum thought it was 1 per attempt, but I don't think it was ever actually that way and it was just a misunderstanding.
Hard to tell for sure, but that's the impression I got from reading several pages of that forum thread.
Weirdly prefer how the original Torva looks over the blood one ngl
Does anyone know the ID for the orb?
glow2:wave2: GZZZZ!!@@@@@@@@@@@@@
You get a sub for just accomplishing this. Great vid though.
the axe skip is the only thing i can seem to get down otherwies i just keep planking lol
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idk, i dont understand compensating to the outliers of the distribution curve... rng is just a thing in runescape I thought, sometimes you get lucky sometimes you don't.
did he had 271 inferno capes :O
why does the butch pet walk when vardorvis runs me down like a dog?
umm so why are all the cringey osrs community saying these awakened bosses are harder than infernal? I havent played in 6months but there is no way this tops infernal cape, and no im not a noob firecaper, Im a maxed 2277 infernal cape
Content wise? This has been an amazing update. I love it! The bosses are all amazing. Yes, even the Dukenator. I like that he's a bit more chill at the start. It's kinda like doing cox in that you prep for the boss and you can afk before you start after prep. The variety is nice.
Reward wise? Dogshit. The rings are meh. The axe is meh. The virtus is meh. Gems are useless. Blood torva is cool though. Everything else is shit.
Can a screechy get it
Lol if only Whisperer was as easy now as it was when you guys were all doing it… insanity regenerating made this 10x easier considering now you HAVE to insta leave orbs AND Pillars, plus getting hit by a single tentacle can end your entire run lol now I’d argue this is definitely harder than Duke
dont like axe skipping because youre not doing it properly but melee/mage skip in cox makes sense xD
at what point in the video do you see me advocating for melee or mage skipping in chambers? you're reading from a script or not actually thinking about what you're saying.
I happen to believe mage skipping is in fact not ok, but that doesnt change the fact it adds more depth than it takes away. wheras axe skipping simply 100% removes the dodge mechanics (the most fundamental part of the boss) in favor of easy set-timing (albeit tick perfect) movements.
melee skipping more precisely 4:1 and the methods that stem from it greatly increase the mechanical depth of the raid, thus yielding a positive effect rather than a purely detrimental one.
29:54 LMAO "Im freeeeeeeeeee"
i'd rather have 3 parts to make the rings like it is for the brimstone ring
You just need to kill the vita spawns at whisperer fight
I still just find it insane you think there is 200 people in the world that play this game that are capable of getting blood torva by the end of the year. Like yeah they look hard but within the end of the year???
I overestimated the difficulty - alongside the emergence of great methods and resources that make this consistent. More like 2.5k players at end of year maybe.
Hard to tell how many are legit though seems same as infernal but in this case maybe up to 50% or more are cliented/bought.
The current loot system is disappointing.
It's concerning that the new loot system was implemented without a poll, as it drastically changes a core aspect of the game.
Did any of the JMODs even test the new loot system by performing 1,000 kills on every boss? It seems like a crucial step that was missed.
This new system makes me feel trapped, as I'm forced to focus solely on obtaining a specific item before I can move on to other content.
After 800 kills, finally getting the desired ring didn't bring the joy and satisfaction it should have.
The negative feedback about the new loot system is widespread in my clan. Only a small number of players seem to be in favor of it.
In OSRS, the thrill comes from obtaining rare uniques with a 1/1000 drop rate. The current system takes away that excitement and makes the experience less enjoyable.
It's frustrating that players are now unable to switch between bosses and have the freedom to do different activities; instead, they are stuck in the pursuit of a particular item.
A lot of the cool mechanics wouldn't have been possible with the engine. Thats what "engine work" means. They think of an idea.. and they code it into the engine. Its why its often an excuse. Anything is possible.. its just a matter of time and resources.
R.I.P mobile players that want blood torva
35:40, holy shit..
gg
Me watching this even tho im like 8/30 against duke