Great review guys! I take more away from your reviews and opinions, rather then the "real" moto journalist's, because you are just like me an everyday motorcycle rider. 👌 If ever there was a bike to get me off the Aprilia, THIS would be it! Wunderbar!
Thanks Jamie, but…..white vinegar or malt vinegar on chips, that’s the big question here. Thanks for watching mate, your ongoing support is greatly appreciated
What's worth noting is that the stock ecu mapping severely limits the power in 2nd and 3rd gear. The BrenTune removes this and really makes the bike scream!! 🤙🏽
Seeing the difference been standard and remapped is a real eye opener and aside from the power increase, it appears to make it a much nicer bike to ride overall.
I’m presuming that it is the US version of the bike that riders are constantly on about Bren Tune. I haven’t seen any riders elsewhere in the world complaining about the power delivery. If anything most riders are in disbelief as to how fast the bike is. No bike on the planet with 200plus bhp is going to be underpowered for the road unless you have no regard whatsoever with other road users. I am guessing that most owners are going to have a smile ear to ear when they open the garage door. I’d love one but I could live without the bar end mirrors and the wings.
@@tracer1127 Correlating the amount of horsepower desired over 200 and not having regard for anyone else on the road is ignorant at best. And you obviously haven't seen the throttle mapping, else you would know that the tune is more about giving you the power the bike already has in certain gears, as opposed to adding more total horsepower.
Just found your channel, whilst lamenting the dirth of such motorcycle evaluation shows in general. There are so many which cover cars, whether old classics or present day, to sports cars exclusively. However, when it comes to bikes a simple run down on the bike is nice to see, and particularly, as you say, the vast majority of riders are road riders, so it is this perspective which is most needed. Joe Blow is not going to be going ten tenths with his pegs and bars scraping the ground, irrespective of how high spec the bike is. Nowhere is it more important to operate a machine within your limits than on a motorbike. We all learn where overconfidence and hubris could potentially get us.
Glad you found a and welcome to the channel, if you have time, check out some of our rider stories also. Yes agree, we think there is too much focus from the motorcycle press in general on high performance, wheelies etc, when in reality, most people don’t ride like that.
@@BikerTorque Too much skill as a circus performer is needed for that, and if your going to visit some mate's or to the shops, why endanger yourself to impress some girl, when you might never become mature.
I bought this bike in June and I love everything about it. It's just so much fun to ride, it puts a big smile on your face and it also is a head turner. Have had many people come up to me wanting to know what it is and how expensive it is 😜(they see a black BMW bike with wings and giant M's on it). People at the local bike shop always flock around it, specially since it's a "rare" BMW M bike. I did however add 20mm risers, wunderlich seat and the ilmberger carbon pelly pan to it. I use it as a commuter bike, it's a way better commuter bike than my 2022 Ducati Monster was.
We’d agree that it’s a better commuter than the Monster, which is still a pretty good bike. How much difference to the 20mm bar risers make, it’s not really something I think I’d need with this bike. Great to hear from an owner of one, thanks for commenting
Hey! Try the “Direct throttle mode” it’s pretty nuts. Took me some time to get used to it. I commute on this bad boy everyday. Was skeptical about filtering in Sydney at first but it’s easier that it was with regular S1000 R because of the mirrors placement.
Once you experience heated grips, they become mandatory on your next bike. If I was only allowed one bike in the garage, it would be a tough call to go past this or my GS.
Great review guys. I really enjoyed watching it. I’m in Melbourne and can’t decide to buy this or not. As you guys have so nicely put it, it’s a license burner. I had the old s1000r and it was pretty nuts as is. I am stuck between this and the new t max. First world problems…😅
@@stevenwescott1422 It certainly has the potential to give you issues with your licence, having said that, it surprisingly is very easy to ride at road legal speeds
The issue of the vibrating bars should have been dealt with by BMW prior to sale, as it is most likely a harmonic resonance issue, which means its length and thickness can affect the degree of vibration. In 2023, we shouldn't be tolerating heavy vibrations in handlebars, as they can be easily dampened by weights or a slight redesign.
In my experience over more years than I care to admit to, practically any motorcycle from 250cc can and will get you into a lot of trouble with the speed limit. A 1 litre engine may make it more accessible, but the beauty of a bike is that even a 250cc 2T has enough grunt to get anyone into trouble. I remember cruising on my Yamaha RD350 at 160 KMH with a load of my camping equipment and food, and apart from a track day or the drags, there is nowhere in Victoria where you can achieve those speeds legally. The total lack of radar guns in those days meant you could certainly get away with a lot more.
The RD350 from memory was a bit of a hooligan machine, nice one. Agree 250,350 and 650cc bikes are probably all anyone really needs for everyday riding
You're right about the vinegar on chips mate. Where do kids think the whole idea of a bag of chips with salt and vinegar came from? I recall in the states that their entire selection began and ended with ketchup (slightly thicker than sauce)
I gave an M1000 R (non-comp) a test ride today for about 90 mins around east of Melbourne. I noticed the vibrations, but they really didn't bother me. The mirrors aren't great because of the vibes but I always do a visual check anyway. The main drawback with the mirrors was their width when filtering at lights. Coming from a KTM 1290 SAR, I did find the leg position gave me a bit of pain after 60 mins (I'm nearly half a century) but after a short break and repositioning my feet, I became less aware of it. I wonder if getting a taller seat may help. Other than that, it is a hugely fun bike to ride. Has anyone ridden the M1000 XR, how does it compare for fun and for comfort? Does it feel as connected to the road with the taller suspension? With regards to the keyed fuel cap, I suppose it would be difficult to run a release circuit with the existing metal tank. The XR has keyless fuel but the whole tank is covered in plastic so easier to run a circuit.
I haven’t ridden the X-RAY as yet, but hoping to at some stage. I didn’t have an issue with the leg position, we are about the same age, but yes a taller seat might help.
lol, the one in the pic is chunky beef and stout. Check out my Royal Enfield Meteor 350 review, but if a cooking lesson in that video also, that’s where the pic of the pie came from
It’s not as fast as s1000rr due to rear sprocket changes for harder acceleration. 47 to 46 teeth. You can swap that out and make it identical (same engine) but you would be hard pressed to hold onto it over 140 mph anyway with little front wind protection. BMWs idea was to make that change for the way the bike will be ridden. Was clever imo.
These start at $21,345 USD before you add options and extra bits and pieces. If one could be disciplined enough to burn the accessories catalog without even looking, that price is not exactly terrible for how much you get. For me personally, I wonder if it would end up being like when I traded my Subaru BRZ for a Nissan 370Z: on paper the Nissan had more performance, but it wasn’t performance I could really exploit on public roads without risking running afoul of the fuzz. All that said, I love the looks of the M1000R.. The wings are so ridiculous, which kind of makes them perfect. But, I think Ill hang onto my 765RS.
Always a great start! Breakfast and a video with Biker Torque.... A winning combination.
Thanks for that, glad we got your day off to a good start. What was for breakfast?
Great review guys! I take more away from your reviews and opinions, rather then the "real" moto journalist's, because you are just like me an everyday motorcycle rider. 👌
If ever there was a bike to get me off the Aprilia, THIS would be it! Wunderbar!
Thanks Jamie, but…..white vinegar or malt vinegar on chips, that’s the big question here. Thanks for watching mate, your ongoing support is greatly appreciated
Great review! It's nice to see a less 'professional journalist' review, more applicable for the every day rider. Keep it up guys. :)
Thanks mate. Yes we think what we are doing is more relevant to everyday riders, thanks for the support and glad you liked it. Plenty more coming up.
What's worth noting is that the stock ecu mapping severely limits the power in 2nd and 3rd gear. The BrenTune removes this and really makes the bike scream!! 🤙🏽
Sweet jesus, the last thing I need on this bike needs is more power, but good to know. Thanks for watching.
Seeing the difference been standard and remapped is a real eye opener and aside from the power increase, it appears to make it a much nicer bike to ride overall.
I’m presuming that it is the US version of the bike that riders are constantly on about Bren Tune. I haven’t seen any riders elsewhere in the world complaining about the power delivery. If anything most riders are in disbelief as to how fast the bike is. No bike on the planet with 200plus bhp is going to be underpowered for the road unless you have no regard whatsoever with other road users. I am guessing that most owners are going to have a smile ear to ear when they open the garage door. I’d love one but I could live without the bar end mirrors and the wings.
@@tracer1127 Correlating the amount of horsepower desired over 200 and not having regard for anyone else on the road is ignorant at best. And you obviously haven't seen the throttle mapping, else you would know that the tune is more about giving you the power the bike already has in certain gears, as opposed to adding more total horsepower.
Here in Australia I don't think our bikes are restricted the same as in the US. It certainly doesn't feel like there is any restrictions!
Just found your channel, whilst lamenting the dirth of such motorcycle evaluation shows in general. There are so many which cover cars, whether old classics or present day, to sports cars exclusively. However, when it comes to bikes a simple run down on the bike is nice to see, and particularly, as you say, the vast majority of riders are road riders, so it is this perspective which is most needed. Joe Blow is not going to be going ten tenths with his pegs and bars scraping the ground, irrespective of how high spec the bike is. Nowhere is it more important to operate a machine within your limits than on a motorbike. We all learn where overconfidence and hubris could potentially get us.
Glad you found a and welcome to the channel, if you have time, check out some of our rider stories also. Yes agree, we think there is too much focus from the motorcycle press in general on high performance, wheelies etc, when in reality, most people don’t ride like that.
@@BikerTorque Too much skill as a circus performer is needed for that, and if your going to visit some mate's or to the shops, why endanger yourself to impress some girl, when you might never become mature.
Awesome to see a Aussie UA-cam motorcycle review, please keep going with it
Thanks, will do! We have plenty planned for this year.
I bought this bike in June and I love everything about it. It's just so much fun to ride, it puts a big smile on your face and it also is a head turner. Have had many people come up to me wanting to know what it is and how expensive it is 😜(they see a black BMW bike with wings and giant M's on it). People at the local bike shop always flock around it, specially since it's a "rare" BMW M bike. I did however add 20mm risers, wunderlich seat and the ilmberger carbon pelly pan to it. I use it as a commuter bike, it's a way better commuter bike than my 2022 Ducati Monster was.
We’d agree that it’s a better commuter than the Monster, which is still a pretty good bike. How much difference to the 20mm bar risers make, it’s not really something I think I’d need with this bike. Great to hear from an owner of one, thanks for commenting
Monster 950 are more nimble and lighter ?
Tuono 1100 are not a great Comuter bike😜
Hey! Try the “Direct throttle mode” it’s pretty nuts. Took me some time to get used to it.
I commute on this bad boy everyday.
Was skeptical about filtering in Sydney at first but it’s easier that it was with regular S1000 R because of the mirrors placement.
Nice one, enjoy
Love your review styles! So glad I found your channel
Thanks for that, glad you like the reviews.
Can confirm - the best fish and chips!
I think we need to go back and do a head to head with the place across the road which also had a sign stating “award winning fish & chips”
You guys might not be professional journos but do an amazing review. Always look forward to hearing what you have to say.
Much appreciated!
Once you experience heated grips, they become mandatory on your next bike.
If I was only allowed one bike in the garage, it would be a tough call to go past this or my GS.
I’m a big GS fan but honestly the in-line 4 in these S and M series bikes is unbelievable. Agree very tough call
My M1000R has 10000km on it now. Im riding 1000miles a week. Loving it
Nice one
Brilliant commentary, guys.. being the owner of the m1000r ❤
Thanks. It certainly is one hell of a bike
Dont worry you can put heated grips on a Vespa too...
Lol, sure can
Great review guys. I really enjoyed watching it. I’m in Melbourne and can’t decide to buy this or not. As you guys have so nicely put it, it’s a license burner. I had the old s1000r and it was pretty nuts as is. I am stuck between this and the new t max.
First world problems…😅
Thanks for watching!
I can see trouble in my future with this bike. As in tickets loss of license. KTM 1290 adventure is enough
@@stevenwescott1422 It certainly has the potential to give you issues with your licence, having said that, it surprisingly is very easy to ride at road legal speeds
The issue of the vibrating bars should have been dealt with by BMW prior to sale, as it is most likely a harmonic resonance issue, which means its length and thickness can affect the degree of vibration. In 2023, we shouldn't be tolerating heavy vibrations in handlebars, as they can be easily dampened by weights or a slight redesign.
I’ve got to say the vibrations are only minor, and to be honest, I didn’t mind them
I have this bike and can honestly say I haven't even noticed the so called vibrations although I do have the non competition.
It’s got a quick shifter and blip shifter old mates clutching.
Suppose each to their own
Used a bit of both, quick shifter and clutch.
In my experience over more years than I care to admit to, practically any motorcycle from 250cc can and will get you into a lot of trouble with the speed limit. A 1 litre engine may make it more accessible, but the beauty of a bike is that even a 250cc 2T has enough grunt to get anyone into trouble. I remember cruising on my Yamaha RD350 at 160 KMH with a load of my camping equipment and food, and apart from a track day or the drags, there is nowhere in Victoria where you can achieve those speeds legally. The total lack of radar guns in those days meant you could certainly get away with a lot more.
The RD350 from memory was a bit of a hooligan machine, nice one. Agree 250,350 and 650cc bikes are probably all anyone really needs for everyday riding
@@BikerTorque Yeah, in its own way it was.
Beast bike. I’d love to own one.
You and me both
You're right about the vinegar on chips mate. Where do kids think the whole idea of a bag of chips with salt and vinegar came from? I recall in the states that their entire selection began and ended with ketchup (slightly thicker than sauce)
I don’t mind tomato sauce on chips, but a good malt vinegar is like liquid gold.
I gave an M1000 R (non-comp) a test ride today for about 90 mins around east of Melbourne. I noticed the vibrations, but they really didn't bother me. The mirrors aren't great because of the vibes but I always do a visual check anyway. The main drawback with the mirrors was their width when filtering at lights. Coming from a KTM 1290 SAR, I did find the leg position gave me a bit of pain after 60 mins (I'm nearly half a century) but after a short break and repositioning my feet, I became less aware of it. I wonder if getting a taller seat may help. Other than that, it is a hugely fun bike to ride. Has anyone ridden the M1000 XR, how does it compare for fun and for comfort? Does it feel as connected to the road with the taller suspension? With regards to the keyed fuel cap, I suppose it would be difficult to run a release circuit with the existing metal tank. The XR has keyless fuel but the whole tank is covered in plastic so easier to run a circuit.
I haven’t ridden the X-RAY as yet, but hoping to at some stage. I didn’t have an issue with the leg position, we are about the same age, but yes a taller seat might help.
BMW has 3 (or 5, depending on the bike) heated grip settings. 1, 2, and Nuclear Fission Reaction.
I’d agree with that.
Amazing looking bike but ouch 💰💰
Amazing bike to ride also
Ok, what is the pie filling?
lol, the one in the pic is chunky beef and stout. Check out my Royal Enfield Meteor 350 review, but if a cooking lesson in that video also, that’s where the pic of the pie came from
@@BikerTorque Cooking is a manly man skill that you need to have.
Incredible torque? how did you come to that conclusion?
Actually found the torque very surprising for an inline 4
113Nm… my 1981 Honda CB1100F has 107Nm 😂
@@donr62 make that 97Nm buddy, no point in lying on the internet
My dream bike :), I hate how it costs 6x to where I live
It certainly is a pricey bike
Me, thinking of getting this for everything including commuting, damn those bars are wide, “no one’s going to buy this for commuting” lol
Lol, in this instance happy to be proven wrong 😂😂😂
It’s not as fast as s1000rr due to rear sprocket changes for harder acceleration. 47 to 46 teeth. You can swap that out and make it identical (same engine) but you would be hard pressed to hold onto it over 140 mph anyway with little front wind protection. BMWs idea was to make that change for the way the bike will be ridden. Was clever imo.
Very clever
Not only are the sprockets shorter, but the transmission in 4th, 5th, and 6th are shorter as well.
Yes vinegar on ships ask for scraps too
I’m guessing you don’t like vinegar
@@BikerTorque sorry I was drunk, of course I do I’m British
@@Weyaye 😂😂😂
@@BikerTorque sorry mate, love the reviews fish and chips with batter and salt and vinegar. Margaritas are very powerful
@@Weyaye all good mate, watch out for those margaritas🤣
These start at $21,345 USD before you add options and extra bits and pieces. If one could be disciplined enough to burn the accessories catalog without even looking, that price is not exactly terrible for how much you get. For me personally, I wonder if it would end up being like when I traded my Subaru BRZ for a Nissan 370Z: on paper the Nissan had more performance, but it wasn’t performance I could really exploit on public roads without risking running afoul of the fuzz. All that said, I love the looks of the M1000R.. The wings are so ridiculous, which kind of makes them perfect. But, I think Ill hang onto my 765RS.
Agree it is a hell of a lot of bike. The Street Triple 765RS is also a wonderful bike, we loved it when we had one.
The wings are worth their development costs, as many manufacturers have now discovered. First was Ducati I think?
I rode this bike for about 35 minutes by which time I couldn't feel my hands. Love the bike but be prepared for numb hands.
I found above 7000 rom and the vibrations through the bars disappeared
Need to get a snake for the handle bars.
thats an easy fix just adding couple of weights..
Fish and chips without Malt Vinegar? A crime I say.
Lol, definitely a crime.
I tried this bike and 6-7k felt flat, it does need ECU flush
Not sure I felt a flat spot, anywhere in the rev range
For the price, fuzzy mirrors and vibrations through the bars is unacceptable. BMW should stop being complacent and provide a solution.
Still an unbelievable bike though and I don’t think the vibrations through the bars were all that bad
Mt 09 better comuter, more uppright and comfotable✊🔥a looot cheaper👍
Sounds like you are a bit of an MT09 fan
@@BikerTorque I mean Speed triple 1050 and Superduke 1290 are favorite✊🔥but Mt 09 better allround bike , but not as fun✊🔥🔥
And 10 times uglier
I bet you most people that buy this bike has other specialty bikes in the garage and use this as a daily.
I reckon if I had the money I’d be happy to use it as a daily
@hby7768 I have one as my only bike to commute as well as weekend rides. I may be in minority 😊
Malt
Fine choice
Thank you. Cheerful, but don't give up your day jobs.
Cheerful’s good. I’ll take that.