I love my Gen1 sport 2015 with a few mods ROX anti vibration bar risers. Woolich tune 170whp Seats reupholstered and a comfort gel added. Gillies tooling rearsets (adjustable👌🏻) Gillies levers Vstream Ztechnic screen. Like most bikes you unlock the full potential and it is as good as most. Love my gen1 absolute animal of a bike proper smiles are had. Bo blipper only a QS but it has the DDC and the cruise and the heated grips and the double helmet features on the suspension. Gen2 has more so the gen3 and the M must be insane. But for 7.5k for a gen1 you can't get a better bike for spec and brakes etc.
@@Yii00T As you've said, you can purchase a cheaper Get model and max it out with mods and upgrades to really bring it up to the big boy league 😁. Enjoy your bike and ride safe.
Thank you for the Video. I,ve just bought the S1000R 2024 and I,m enjoying it a lot! My last one was a Yamaha 1000 Thunderace 20 years ago so its been a while for me and now back on the ride again. Good review!
Great looking bike. Would love one. But I’ll need to wait for more £££ to a arrive one day. Waiting for me new hornet to arrive in a couple of weeks. Great review
Hello and thanks from ARIZONA, USA. I really enjoyed this review. I love the looks of this bike, but my naked segment in my stable are a '20 ZH2 and a '22 Tuono V4 1100 Factory. The Tuono was part of a recent 2-bike deal with another new, leftover '22: A 1200 Speed Triple RR. So my mind flashes to what bike I could have bought for 41K, plus my usual pipe, tuner, and carbon, alarm, etc., on both bikes.
Never question if something was the right choice to make. You made the choice at the time so it must have been right. Best thing with bikes is the ability to quite easily chop and change. I’m on my 6th bike in 2 years 😁. Best one being the factory Tuono aswell. Loved that thing. Enjoy your bikes mate and ride safe.
@@DSR1YT I didn't mention that my one bike per year was a fat bob in March. The other two bikes just 'popped' up with the leftover discounts of $3000-5,000 USD.
Most of us still nod to each other (unless you’re riding a Harley) got to keep the biking spirit going. I always stop if I can, even if there’s nothing I can do. It’s the effort that counts right 😁
review after review I think the 1300 GS would be a good choice for me. and maybe the Aprilia or Triumph to add with it. Hell they are all making great bikes
I have both the V4 SP and the M1000R I can tell you in my opinion the M1000R is a better motorcycle both have areas of improvement but I do prefer the M rather than the SP
Most demo bikes are in break in period. Dealers don’t like to let them get too high before they sell em on. But hay. Thanks for the 2.20 watch and the comment 😁
I think thats what makes these naked style bikes the best for the UK, you dont want to get into triple numbers because you get absolutely blasted around. Id go naked for the fun over sports bike for the speed any day of the week.
Hay there. I go for pcp to keep the monthly payments low. My deposits for the last few bikes have been £6/8k as I’ve had that amount of value left in the bike I’m part exchanging. 🤙
@@bastiancortes07 It's just a different way of paying for the bike. 1 - Buy out right in cash 2 - HP = Hire purchase - deposit and the remaining sum divided by the length of the term of the contract is your monthly payments (usually quite high depending on the vehicle cost) 3 - PCP = Personal contract purchase - deposit, smaller monthly payments as there will be a balloon payment at the end, usually this payment is £1000's. You then chose to pay it off OR get another loan to pay the balloon payment OR swop the bike in for a new bike and start again. Hope that helps mate
A 20k bike with serious vibration issues isn't good to be honest. And the affect on the mirrors at motorway speeds is just not acceptable for a bike in this price range, in this day and age. But otherwise great bike.
@DSR1YT was away to say the same bar end mirrors will always vibe no matter the bike. But yeah the vibes through the bikes need sorted a bit better for sure. My gen1 did it alot more before I added some simple mods.
@@Yii00T That's the frustrating part for me, is there is some small changes that can be made to help with the vibes, weighted bar end mirrors etc, but why should we be the ones to do it. Are you telling me all the BMW testers didn't notice the vibes before production started??
@Yii00T tell me about it. What’s worse is KTM. Give you everything unlocked for the first 600miles. Then locks it. And if you want it then you have to pay for all the packs etc to unlock it again. Money grabbing wan……. 🤣
Being so similar they have areas that are very different. Power delivery and power curve being one. I’d say I had more fun on the MR than the SF. The SF heat was kicking up onto my calf which wasn’t pleasant at all. Can I not just have both? 🤣
@@DSR1YT I’ve not ridden the M1000, but did ride the S1000 an decided to go with the 2023 SF. I really preferred the v4 over the in-line 4, but I realise there is literally a cigarette paper between them .
Is it any more exciting than the S version until you get near and past 10k rpm which you didn't get to do since it's not even broken in? Tried s1000xr recently as a pikes peak alternative, seemed pretty competent and comfortable, yet not exciting at all with zero sensation of speed, going faster didn't make it fun either, the throttle response and power were non existent in the lower half of the rpm range, suspension was ok, brakes not great, some little high frequency buzzing through bars, pegs, tank and seat at certain revs. Not many faults to pick, effective, but not memorable or enjoyable at all.
I found similar issues when I reviewed the the XR too. The S1000 was an ok bike, but I really enjoyed the M1000. Lighter with more power and handled better due to the lighter wheels etc. As you said I couldn’t go passed 9000rpm and still thoroughly enjoyed myself. Hopefully that’s says enough 😁
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 Difficult, for me the improvements over the S to the M was worth the extra cash. Id hedge a bet and say the same would happen with the XR as well. Only thing the PP will give you over the XR is that V4 power from the engine. It hits differently to the inline 4 which im sure you are aware of.
@@DSR1YT yeah, i definitely like the multi/diavel v4 a lot more than inline 4 of bmw, but then xr is a bit smaller/lighter than multi. I wonder if Ducati will give us some sort of multi SP with the sf/paniv4, carbon wheels, dry clutch, full akra as a response to m1000xr, kind of doubt it since having desmosedici stradale and a dry clutch doesn't really make sense in a sport touring bike 😂
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 We can always hope 😆. I love this years multi V4 engine, if I was picking between this years multi and the XR right now, id go Multi. Will have to see how this new M XR hits the market and if it's everything BMW are making it out to be.
S1000R or M1000R - Which one are you taking home?
I love my Gen1 sport 2015 with a few mods ROX anti vibration bar risers.
Woolich tune 170whp
Seats reupholstered and a comfort gel added.
Gillies tooling rearsets (adjustable👌🏻)
Gillies levers
Vstream Ztechnic screen.
Like most bikes you unlock the full potential and it is as good as most.
Love my gen1 absolute animal of a bike proper smiles are had.
Bo blipper only a QS but it has the DDC and the cruise and the heated grips and the double helmet features on the suspension. Gen2 has more so the gen3 and the M must be insane.
But for 7.5k for a gen1 you can't get a better bike for spec and brakes etc.
M1000r, have one on order
@@Yii00T As you've said, you can purchase a cheaper Get model and max it out with mods and upgrades to really bring it up to the big boy league 😁. Enjoy your bike and ride safe.
@@iansm1000r Not jealous at all 😆
@DSR1YT my last bike was a 2007 repsol Honda, so it's been a while. I'm excited to get on it and ride again
Thank you for the Video. I,ve just bought the S1000R 2024 and I,m enjoying it a lot! My last one was a Yamaha 1000 Thunderace 20 years ago so its been a while for me and now back on the ride again. Good review!
Great video man. I've been seriously debating between the 2023 SF44S or the M1000R Comp. More and more I'm leaning towards the BMW.
Thanks Dylan, I’ve also tested and reviewed the 23’ SFV4s if you want to watch that video to help you out :)
Once you get it derestricted after 1st service and hit those 8k+ revs it’s lethal. Good vid.
I’ve no doubt, this was an awesome machine and it was still restricted. Thanks for the comment.
Great looking bike. Would love one. But I’ll need to wait for more £££ to a arrive one day. Waiting for me new hornet to arrive in a couple of weeks. Great review
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the review. It’s certainly a bike to aspire to. Enjoy your hornet. Ride safe
Hello and thanks from ARIZONA, USA.
I really enjoyed this review. I love the looks of this bike, but my naked segment in my stable are a '20 ZH2 and a '22 Tuono V4 1100 Factory. The Tuono was part of a recent 2-bike deal with another new, leftover '22: A 1200 Speed Triple RR. So my mind flashes to what bike I could have bought for 41K, plus my usual pipe, tuner, and carbon, alarm, etc., on both bikes.
Never question if something was the right choice to make. You made the choice at the time so it must have been right.
Best thing with bikes is the ability to quite easily chop and change. I’m on my 6th bike in 2 years 😁. Best one being the factory Tuono aswell. Loved that thing. Enjoy your bikes mate and ride safe.
@@DSR1YT I didn't mention that my one bike per year was a fat bob in March. The other two bikes just 'popped' up with the leftover discounts of $3000-5,000 USD.
Really pleased you stopped for the other rider. So few do that these days...
Most of us still nod to each other (unless you’re riding a Harley) got to keep the biking spirit going. I always stop if I can, even if there’s nothing I can do. It’s the effort that counts right 😁
@@DSR1YT where was you earlier today when i was stuck then?😂
KTM let you down again aye 😁
@@DSR1YT i let me down!and tbf,the only thing so far was the oil temp sensor.anyone for cheap chinese electronics?😂
Good review down to earth guy
Had to subscribe 😜👍💯
Thanks for the Sub and glad you like my video style ;)
review after review I think the 1300 GS would be a good choice for me. and maybe the Aprilia or Triumph to add with it. Hell they are all making great bikes
sounds like a good garage selection there mate.
I have both the V4 SP and the M1000R I can tell you in my opinion the M1000R is a better motorcycle both have areas of improvement but I do prefer the M rather than the SP
Im not jealous at all :).
@@DSR1YT I’m in the process of selling the SFV4SP I do honestly believe that the M1000R is that much better bike as a Naked Bike.
2:20 I stopped the video. No point asking if it's better than a V4S when it's still in breaking period.
Most demo bikes are in break in period. Dealers don’t like to let them get too high before they sell em on. But hay. Thanks for the 2.20 watch and the comment 😁
If you haven't tried the MV Agusta Brutale 1000RS try it.
I’ve reviewed the 1000RS, personally I’d still go for the m1000r for riding but just on looks the RS would win 😁
@@DSR1YT I agree.
That annoying rattle of the timing chain at startup drives me nutz. Wish they could do something about it
Let’s face it. They probably could. They just don’t want too 🤣
What's next GSA M1300? 30k price tag
Hope not 😁. But then wouldn’t surprise me.
Actually....yes M1300GS is going to be launched soon
Never really understood these 200+HP naked bikes. Anything past 110 mph with no wind protection just becomes painful.
I think thats what makes these naked style bikes the best for the UK, you dont want to get into triple numbers because you get absolutely blasted around. Id go naked for the fun over sports bike for the speed any day of the week.
I must be getting old because the biggest question I have is whether it’s comfy or not!
Isn’t just you there mate. Is it comfy. Do my knees wrists or back hurt. Is there too much vibrations. What’s the wind noise like 🤣.
Did you feel the engine heat on the sfv4s? Im debating between that and m1000r.
Yes I did mate. Feel free to check out my full review on the sfv4s on my channel 🤙
You mentioned you dont keep your bike for the full finance duration. Do you usually go for Hire Purchase? Cheers!
Hay there. I go for pcp to keep the monthly payments low. My deposits for the last few bikes have been £6/8k as I’ve had that amount of value left in the bike I’m part exchanging. 🤙
What is a pcp. Can you explain more the details thanks!
@@bastiancortes07 It's just a different way of paying for the bike.
1 - Buy out right in cash
2 - HP = Hire purchase - deposit and the remaining sum divided by the length of the term of the contract is your monthly payments (usually quite high depending on the vehicle cost)
3 - PCP = Personal contract purchase - deposit, smaller monthly payments as there will be a balloon payment at the end, usually this payment is £1000's. You then chose to pay it off OR get another loan to pay the balloon payment OR swop the bike in for a new bike and start again.
Hope that helps mate
A 20k bike with serious vibration issues isn't good to be honest. And the affect on the mirrors at motorway speeds is just not acceptable for a bike in this price range, in this day and age. But otherwise great bike.
Sadly vibrations seem to be an issue across a lot of different bikes manufacturers these days. Either that or I’m too sensitive 😁
@DSR1YT was away to say the same bar end mirrors will always vibe no matter the bike. But yeah the vibes through the bikes need sorted a bit better for sure. My gen1 did it alot more before I added some simple mods.
@@Yii00T That's the frustrating part for me, is there is some small changes that can be made to help with the vibes, weighted bar end mirrors etc, but why should we be the ones to do it. Are you telling me all the BMW testers didn't notice the vibes before production started??
@DSR1YT fully agrees it's just a joke when spending 10k never mind 20-25.
@Yii00T tell me about it. What’s worse is KTM. Give you everything unlocked for the first 600miles. Then locks it. And if you want it then you have to pay for all the packs etc to unlock it again. Money grabbing wan……. 🤣
Respect stopping to check on that other biker
Cheers mate, we’re a small community, got to stick together 😁
Hey Matt. Great review, but the million dollar question is… is it better than than the Streetfigher?
Being so similar they have areas that are very different. Power delivery and power curve being one. I’d say I had more fun on the MR than the SF.
The SF heat was kicking up onto my calf which wasn’t pleasant at all.
Can I not just have both? 🤣
@@DSR1YT Don't ask me...
@@DSR1YT yes you can have them both 😊.
@@DSR1YT I’ve not ridden the M1000, but did ride the S1000 an decided to go with the 2023 SF. I really preferred the v4 over the in-line 4, but I realise there is literally a cigarette paper between them .
SF doesn't have cruise control or heated grips. That's what persuaded me to buy the M1000R in the end. And I love Ducati.
So, which would you take?
I think the Streetfighter looks better. But it’s too aggressive for being a naked bike. I’d go for this in the end 🤙
@@DSR1YT Nice. I picked up the M comp yesterday. It’s very impressive. 👊🏽
Vibs are disapointing for £19500 price😢😢
I don’t disagree. Wish they done something about it. Not having it their road tester didn’t notice the vibes
Great video but for me though i prefer the ktm super R 👍
We all have our vices, and yours is KTM 😁. Thanks for the comment though.
@@DSR1YT 😂I was told at birth I was special 😂😂
@richardentwistle918 dropped on your head a few times maybe 🤣
I’m off to the bank 😂🍻
Buy me one 😁🤙
Is it any more exciting than the S version until you get near and past 10k rpm which you didn't get to do since it's not even broken in?
Tried s1000xr recently as a pikes peak alternative, seemed pretty competent and comfortable, yet not exciting at all with zero sensation of speed, going faster didn't make it fun either, the throttle response and power were non existent in the lower half of the rpm range, suspension was ok, brakes not great, some little high frequency buzzing through bars, pegs, tank and seat at certain revs. Not many faults to pick, effective, but not memorable or enjoyable at all.
I found similar issues when I reviewed the the XR too.
The S1000 was an ok bike, but I really enjoyed the M1000. Lighter with more power and handled better due to the lighter wheels etc.
As you said I couldn’t go passed 9000rpm and still thoroughly enjoyed myself. Hopefully that’s says enough 😁
@@DSR1YT I'm just thinking whether it's worth waiting for m1000xr or just get multi pikes peak
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 Difficult, for me the improvements over the S to the M was worth the extra cash. Id hedge a bet and say the same would happen with the XR as well.
Only thing the PP will give you over the XR is that V4 power from the engine. It hits differently to the inline 4 which im sure you are aware of.
@@DSR1YT yeah, i definitely like the multi/diavel v4 a lot more than inline 4 of bmw, but then xr is a bit smaller/lighter than multi. I wonder if Ducati will give us some sort of multi SP with the sf/paniv4, carbon wheels, dry clutch, full akra as a response to m1000xr, kind of doubt it since having desmosedici stradale and a dry clutch doesn't really make sense in a sport touring bike 😂
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 We can always hope 😆. I love this years multi V4 engine, if I was picking between this years multi and the XR right now, id go Multi. Will have to see how this new M XR hits the market and if it's everything BMW are making it out to be.
I see you’re still in restricted mode. You’re not feeling more than half of the engine!
Nothing I can do about that as it’s only a demo bike. Just shows how good this bike is even without being fully unlocked.
20k and still has vibe problems !!!
Sadly so mate 🤙
I think its to much Money without having öhlins Sunspension on the Bike
UA-cam stole my comment again.
Haha. Stop with the profanity then.
@@DSR1YT no profanitys at all!maybe something about germans was all!😂
Hopefully no jokes about Germans and 🚂 😁
@@DSR1YT you've lost me mate!😂
I’ll explain at the BBQ
sounds like a sewing machine
A bloody fast sewing machine :)
Parts started falling off rhe KTM,
Or engine lights start showing their faces 😁
KTM’s are tractors compared to this
The vibrations alone is a no go for me thanks for VID !GATE13SW6CREW cfc
Glad I could help 😁