Welded Diff vs. $1200 Diff | HiLow
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2019
- $1200 Limited Slip Differential vs a Free Welded Differential! Is saving the cash worth it? Let’s find out.
Team Hi (James Pumphrey & Zach Jobe) and Team Low (Nolan Sykes & Aaron Parker) have installed coilovers, wheels, and big meaty tires in order to make their cars faster, but we’re not just building these 350zs to be race cars, we’re building them to be fun cars. And what’s more fun than doing some sweet drifties on the skid pad.
To do that, we’re going to be swapping out our differentials... well Team Hi is. Nolan will be doing the time honored option of welding his.
With an open differential, the power from your engine takes the path of least resistance to the wheels. That’s good for allowing the inside and outside wheels to spin at different speeds when taking a turn -which is the reason diffs were invented in the first place. But, if one wheel totally loses traction the open diff just keeps directing more power to it and that one wheel will keep spinning til kingdom come. This is what we call a one-tire fire.
One way to limit that wheel from slipping is with a limited slip differential, or LSD. Team Hi bought a KAAZ SuperQ 2-way clutch-type Limited slip differential! 2 way means that the LSD engages the same amount during acceleration and deceleration. 2 way is generally the choice of drifters, because it keeps your lsd engaged pretty much all the time, which is good for skids.
Another way to prevent that one tire fire slippage and not spend $1200, is to weld the spider gears together leaving your back wheels permanently locked together all the time. This is great in a straight lines and when drifting, but when you go around corners and the wheels need to go different speeds, the diff can’t do its job anymore and the wheels end up constantly scrubbing and breaking traction in small jumps. But sometimes breaking traction is exactly what you want :)
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I once did cheap vs expensive LSD and ended up seeing faces on the hospital ceiling
😟
Yeah if you’re welding a diff you really need to know how to steer first
@@supaslimey4181I don't think he's talking about the car part😂
probably welded his neurons@@dylancrosby1575
😂😂😂
It's cheap to build a race car. It's expensive to make a daily race car.
Well said
Yup, thats why cars like GTRs M5s etc are so expensive 😭
You can always weld the diff and when it brokes down buy the new diff for something like 700. that kaaz was way overkill for 1200
The poor man pays twice. Guess how I know.
Yeah because an f1 car is dirt cheap 🤔
“ gnna put an LSD in your thing”
“Woah, buy me dinner first” 😂😂😂😂
I will wait til they kill the cat too
@@laki7480 "I'm bashing in the neighbours cat"
- Alex Kersten
James is a trip
WoooAh
I, too, watched the video.
“As your turning, the wheels need to go different speeds”
Not if you drift every corner...😁
You got me there
As long as youre paying for the tires 👍
I am not Sean Lock “Sean Lock is that you?”
Barlowjmb no, they really do, way different speeds, wait did you say wheels? Uh, let me just switch the steering wheel socket and pull the track pin, yes drift
RIP tires
Why was there no sexual content warning, james you *have* to give me fair notice
gotta get the tissues ready
LookatmyBig Geoduck mmmm yes
Gotta love the double tap fast forward feature
@@thereflextester You mean the double tap replay feature
@@dimwitrj slow mo, watch those babies bounce
Merry Christmas Donut boys!
How about Merry Donuts?🤪
@@al-Bismillah wierd flex but ok "🤪"
@@Kuda04 Yes! Playing with words for fun.
Merry Chrysler
Merry Christmas
9:08 When I’m watching Donut alone in my room with absolutely no one around
Vs
5:07 When I’m watching Donut and my parents walk in
🤣🤣😅😅
反社会的 Weeb Trash LMAO
🤣
They always walk in on the wrong moment
Its always like that
Even in movies!!!
"I don't see this diff ever breaking"
In my personal experience, you just awoke every tiny flaw in that thing. You can't just speak bold statements like that without cursing yourself.
except for a welded diff, just filled the core of mine with weld and it outlasted the car, dont do manjis at 150 on a single lane dirt road
I converted my subaru to RWD by welding the center diff. i beat on it like crazy, and then 2nd gear finally gave up the ghost.
@@bigcazza5260yeah any drug at 150 is a hell of a ride
“welds will not stick to dirty metal”
*laughs in 6010*
Dirty metal*
B Watts i meant dirty metal
Yeah everyone's like oh you need to clean that up really well and all that I just grabbed 6010 and make sure it goes in deep
Y’all sure that y’all are using metal and not plastic?
That's exactly what my first thought was😂😂
"Welcome to Jame's lube corner" - otherworldly words
"Time for a nap"
"Thanks James ^_^"
Time stamp?
@@hayden7520 5:04
Ughh that made me feel so uncomfortable hahaha
Speed, Reliability, Affordable
- you can choose two of the three.
This is pretty much the only thing that you have to know about cars if you know nothing else.
@@nouseformyname3788 Life*
I have a 370Z project car and it combines everything
@@raghavanpradeep2434 no it doesnt
@@MV-ri7zu How?
James always makes my day with his weird but interesting personality and infectious good vibes.
*Welded diff is free*
Me:
Can't even afford a welder
*Also doesn’t know how*
You're not alone man, trust me lol
Me: doesen't have any money
Just use JB weld.
I went to trade school to get certified as a jb welder lol
Both teams should bring their cars to the Hoonigan's Burnyard for Daily Transmission
Vile_ or have the hilow cars go agains the build and battle season 3 cars
red dragon gamer11029 suppy and jamo’s handa would definitely crush these cars. that is if hert hasn’t broke the wastegate
I love that Zach did all the work and driving and James was just there for the ride and comic relief
James: “I’m not a good driver at all”
Also James: *Buys AE86*
So Is James the 86 that drives every morning on Mount Akina?
@@FenderJay no he's the guy that drives the 86 levin on shomaru pass
@@FionnMccrow his 86 is a trueno
@@brendancross2767 the one that drives shomaru pass is a levin
@@FionnMccrow I'm saying James'is a trueno
I will never forget the first time I swapped an open diff for an LSD. I was blown away how much more power I was able to put down and how much sooner. That's a phenomenal upgrade if you are serious about driving. For the street on the other hand??? I don't know if it is worth it. As I don't see a reason to drive that spirited on street roads. Maybe I am just older now. ;)
I had an 84 Camaro with 3.73 posi and I now own an 82 with an open diff. Waaay more confidence in the 84. I could push that car hard, drive it in the snow, etc. My 82 now can barely handle it in the rain. If it even smells like it might rain, that car starts spinning. The bigger motor might not help with that though ;)
Chevrolicious Something tells me it’s that bigger engines need to be revved and pushed harder. Hence the increase of LEAD in a man’s shoes.
But what do I know? ;)
Lockers for all.
I have a fwd stock van and welded the diff just for fun and then sold it. Its was stupid
Your just older now lol 😉🤣🤣
We already know what Nolan’s car color is already
Exactly idk why they "censored" it
Stefano Argentino 😂 we know both
Because some people havent seen the first video
@@marceloalbuja Even then, the color is shown like 5 seconds later behind hazy plastic sheets.
For those who want to know, nolans car is light blue and james' is midnight blue
Most tracked z's will have OS Giken, Quaife, or sometimes Tomei. The Tomei seems to be the best value of the bunch if you don't want to pony up 1200
Donut : *show the cars fully built in color before the show and artworks in the intro*
Also Donut : Sorry! We can't spoil the color, so we made it b&w.
Doctor Twilight lmao they show it in the background at 8:57 too
@@MrBunch They showed low car not high, but you can see the colors in the intro.
Me: ‘watching show in my room’
Show: ‘explaining how diffs work’
Mom: ‘walks in’
Show: WELCOME TO JAME’S LUBE CORNER
haaaaaaahahaha!
You are the 2nd comment to put the apostrophe in front of the s in James.
Mom: “UR GAYYYYYY UR UR HES GAYYYYY”
@@blakethornsbrough1528 good grammar atleast
@@sovietscrapmechanic5058 Not good grammar. The name is James, not Jame, so it should be James's. Even though it looks weird
Hold on, if you had to put the footage in black-and-white, then why did you release the Bumper 2 Bumper episode that involved those two cars after they were finished?
They actually finished this session in May 2019 so yeah
Yeah with that cheap plasti dip paint haha
@@lochlan. that means the prices of everything are skewed
Yeah they kinda pissed me off when I saw this I watched the whole series as it came out on Facebook the fact that they released the exact same thing here just almost a year later seems lazy to me like hey we need to make a little bit of revenue before the new year oh yeah let's just rerelease high low on youtube and go on vacation
Hell even their Zs in the HiLow intro is the same. They spoiled it in the first place lmao
James is the main reason i watch this dude never disappoints
The best is when he acts gay, gay people are not only not annoying but funny
I drove my 350Z with a welded differential for over 2 years. The only issue I started to worry about was transmission wear. My 3rd gear would grind occasionally and I always believed that my differential had something to do with it.. (shaking, abnormal stress, etc.)
Any update on this situation?
Believe it or not, it was actually probably the drive shaft. Had the same issue in 3rd.
IS THAT ALEX GRIM FROM THE HOONIGAN SHOW BUILD AND BATTLE?
I literally just watched him shred his camado
Imagine these 350z's against that z from build and battle
Love me some camados.
it is
bruh iz a small world indeed
Do cheap vs expensive exhaust
Will Taylor they already have
Tiny Galaxy gamer no... they haven’t.
@@KaleWB this is a free rerelease
This is a great idea. (:
Kale W they’ve already completed the cars LOL . It’s the first video before they released the show hiLow hahaa
6:49
"Watch your hands."
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
I was looking through comments and then saw this I swear 3 seconds later ahhh
This is my favorite series y’all have ever done😂. So cool for a lot of us DIY’ersI hope there’s a season 2 at some point with maybe a different car 😏
why did u put it in black and white? In the 1ep there is the same scene just with color -.-
True but I don't know just agreeing
Eeee eee exactly what I was thinking
Eeee eee they show the color in the intro as well
they get painted. don't want to give it away to quickly
MrCukydoh they already gave it up in 1episode -_-
"You can't really turn with a welded diff"
Boi, just do the drifties at every single turn, I don't see the problem here?
You don't, but the cops might lol
I drive no different with a welded diff other than getting sidewayz
VLSD was essential in driving my 240sx in 4 season weather. It helps tremendously in the snow and rain. I also had a Nismo 2 way and a welded diff. The nismo was good for most weather but the welded just sucked in the wet and snow. I put 600hp with 10.5 drag radials through the welded and nismo lsd without any failures.
Welded the diff in my 90 Chevy Silverado short bed single cab and got about 2 months worth of fun out of it before it re converted itself back to the one tire fire option. Worth it!
Straight pipe Vs Performance (expensive) exhaust
Edit: HOLY SHIT, thanks for the likes
Muh back pressure
They're California 350z cars. We're not allowed to straight pipe cars.
boostedsil40 kinda want to do the same thing like who wants to spend 2k on exhaust
You are blessed fam
Obviously the straight pipe. No need to test it
There was some f*****-up editing on the audio when they were doing the prices
This series is so much fun. It's silly fun but still mature. Just what we need to know without all the clickbait huff and puff like some other channels. Love this and CAR WARS!!! :D
Just clicked on this for research and I never thought this was 3 years old! Feels like last year! Damn time flies, I will have to rewatch this series haha
Jame's Lube Corner : Powered By Dodge
angel ortiz ramchargers
Who was surprised seeing alex here after build and battle
Not me, the area where they both film are pretty close
Enjoying this HiLow Series quite a bit - Keep it up!
I remember the squares in my family thought my esb brakes were in need of replacement because they made a brushing noise lol not to mention the sticky tires throwing small rocks and stuff up into the metal wheel wells sounded pretty broken lol
I thought Nolan was going to jb weld his differential
Only the true patrician's drift car
Wrong channel 😂
I will NEVER get out of my mind looking at James lube up that diff! 😂😂😂
So far, Nolan doesn’t even have 2k in it. James spent 2.5k on coils...
#boostcreeps
The metal plate in the middle of the diff was the right idea, and something we (in sweden) learn by trial & error. Just welding the gears WILL result in it failing eventually. The middle plate adds so much more strength its virtually impossible to break (if you weld right). However, long term, because welded diff cant move at all, other components of the drive line do take more damage and wear over time.
I literally love every single one of your videos
I love you tennis man
James, you're looking more healthy every episode! Glad you're doing good man.
I was raised in a GTO with a welded diff.
When you are 4 years old and you can feel the front end lifting up you never forget it.
Oh and we have snowy Winters here.
Really love you guys for getting more into the technical side of things! For your nearly 3MILLION (growing fast) subscribers that may not know some of this stuff first hand, wonderful way to expose them to projects and this kind of knowledge! Keep it up y'all!
6:08 sheesh 🔥
The Torsen LSD in my car (1995 Miata) is one of my favorite things about the car, but I hate how pretty much everyone I've tried to engage in a convo about it had no idea what a Torsen limited slip differential even was.
I have a torsen :) They're genius!
I don't know why anyone would want clutch-plates in their diff
Just bought an 01 NB pretty sure it has the torsen it’s great in the wet
11 years ago I bought a '70 Maverick that came with a welded 9-inch rear. I put a 250 HP 302 and a AOD in it . Smoke both 275/60/15 rears often and I have had no problems.
It is a lot of fun watching you guys!!
I loved the horrified looks you get from people while driving around in a parking lot with a welded diff. :D
Only managed to break one axle in the 10 years I daily'd a welded diff in my old S12 200SX with a 400BHP SR20.
The editing in this one is amazing.
"Watch your hands."
James: "Ahhh!!"
Ha ha ha ha
Yes
Amazing? Listen from 1:09 and think again...
I love the hi low video cause everyone's apart of it and its badass
i love how yall teach us as youre going so us who are new or want a 350 can get a feel for it ^_^
"weld doesent stick to dirty metal" *laughs in melted Spyder gears from ALL THE AMPS*
Lsd over welded all day everyday. I am sure you will see the difference once those cars hit the track. The more expensive z will start to really improve as the performance of the engine is improved. The more expensive car at its present form will blow the cheap z on a roadcourse.
Most fulltime circuit racecar run a fully locked diff same as the welded one... lsd is fine for daily cars if you don't want to drive really hard
Lsd is way better for time attack/grip scenarios. Locked diff makes putting power down a little more tricky and the car will "push" more without the different wheels speed throughout the corner
I was pretty put-off by them making statements without getting it on a track... the LSD makes a HUGE difference in handling.
Also, a welded differential just eats tires on a daily and if anything does break, it's not going to be the differential, it's going to be an axle.
The issue with these cars is that there is a gear oil pocket inside those differentials that once it burns up it goes from being a limited-slip to being an open diff I did this to mine which is why I bought one and welded it and it was way better is better in the snow it was better in the rain it was better in the sun I knew exactly what my rear end was going to do and I knew it was going to put the power down when I wanted it to instead of skipping
@@DmOcRsI also puts extra jarring load on the tail shaft and uni joints. I've got a mini spooled diff which acts the same as a welded diff but just stronger/reliable, but I've had to replace uni joints. Especially so when you've got a supercharged car doing clutch dumps from stand still lol.
Zach and the Pumph working together is my favorite thing
Yknow? I've been learning alot of stuff, and have been entertained the whole time. I cant get enough
2:54
"I'm gonna go put an LSD in your thing"
"buy me dinner first"
😂
9:13 blue color change? look at the reflection on his arm.
You commented this after seeing the video where they do the color change😐
Jonathan Jimenez 8:57 uhhh look at the car in the paint booth that’s blue behind them lololololol
We obviously know now but it also showed the black and blue cars in the intro
I do! I totally freaking get it! I was debating putting front and rear lunchbox lockers in a 4x4 conversion I'm doing to a c10 diesel because of the extra noise, but you're right. I'm building it to scare the normies anyway, it should make extra noise!
I LOVE this series you guys!!!! plz keep it coming! also season 2 with new tuner cars? (factory/manufacturer sponsored?)
I like this show
quick draw rc cool
No
I've had both on the same car. I prefer my 2 way. Just have to watch out sometimes decelerating too quick the rear end will lock up, If I were to buy a diff now I would go for a 1.5 way just because i'm not into drifting as much as I used to be. Problem with a welded on a daily is you definitely eat up your rear tires a lot faster and its very hard on your rear suspension or axles on every small turn. Also a welded diff your car wants to go forward, can be more prone to understeer if you don't want to break traction and drift around a corner.
This is the most important comment
This is the most satisfying video on UA-cam. That dodge tattoo ain't the only good looking thing.
That yell was amazing
6:50 “Watch your hands.” “AHHHH-“
“Well I am so glad you asked my sweet boy” lmfaoooooooo
That corner time was special please do more
I daily a welded diff 350.
The worst part of it is parking in peoples yards. Your wheels will mess up their lawn.
As for breaking loose while driving in the town, it generally only happens if I want it too. In the rare event that it surprises me, its so easy to get control of again, it hasn’t been a problem for me.
5:04 best part of the whole video🤣
That is an amazing dodge tattoo that James has 😂
I really like this series
Peace of mind and daily driving comfort.
''im gonna go drop a lsd in your thing''
''wow take me out to dinner first''
"put an lsd in your thing"*
"wow buy me dinner first"*
I would imagine tire wear is vastly different as well welded vs 2-way. I was surprised not to hear any mention of that
They literally did mention it, and showed the car on the lift with the right wheel worn.
@@Gerald.69 damn, guess I missed it 😅
Dont skim watch. Relax and focus @@heytheremr2
Brilliant episode, I’m living the decision dilemma right now.
This might be hella cheesy or whatever but I was in such a crap mood today and then I watched a few donut videos. Cheered me right up. Honestly. So thanks guys.
1:35 -- Dude on the right didn't even ask. Just finger blasted both holes.
What ever happened to Science Garage and Bart?
Stephen Oakley he is a dad now
@@marvinzwolsman131 so dads can't work?
Bart doesnt work at donut anymore and donut wont continue the show without bart
@@rustybrackett5772 yeah, but what happened?
Stephen Oakley he became a dad
Up next, you guys should do the "driver mod" ie go to an advanced driver's racing school. Love this video series. Keep up the good work!!
James energy makes me happy
When james said "aaaaah" i felt that 😢🤣🤣
6:49 always gets me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
dang yall really gave him a raise hahaha finally spoke his mind in the end
I run Lincoln lockers in a jeep and a trooper front and rear. No problem. And just broke a axle recently lockers still holding. The only thing I can say is don't weld a plate if you are running c-clip axles. I wasn't sure how it would be but I don't have much money but do have a welder. I can say I love it and will be welding them from now on. If you weld the front it is best to have manual hubs. Or in the case of my jeep it has a center axle disconnect with cable. And I can still flat tow it. I trailer it but I did do a flat tow test and it tracked straight. Hope this helps someone.
5:03 Best thing i ever "EVER" Seen lol..
5:06 almost lost my coffee ☠️
Seeing the Dodge tattoo always makes me chuckle.
Main advantage of LSD is you can modulate the diff lock by clutching in(because the diff is not locked when car is in neutral) or if you have a 1 or 1.5 way LSD, braking or deaccel as well. Depending on how you drive this can give you a lot more grip during drifting, and is undeniably superior for grip racing. They will perform the same if you just do donuts or only drift by power, but it gives you a lot more control especially if your car has lower power. With a lsd you can also usually get away with a stock ebrake, where as a welded with any kind of kind of grippy tire you’ll usually need a hydro to get it to lock consistently since it takes a lot more braking force to lock two wheels that are always connected to each other instead of spinning independently. There’s merit to both, but because welded benefits from more power and hydro, I think the cost difference is not that bad
EDIT: added a few details for clarity!
This is such an on point comment. 👍
3:42 perfect example of why you should give your editer a raise
Listen from 1:09 and think again...
What the hell happened to the sound at 1:15
“And on that bombshell” brought a happy tear to my eye Respek
I realized this episode that I'm watching an episode of some of the most popular car enthusiasts out there, and these guys don't even know how to work on their own cars. They don't even know how to use gasket maker... Let that sink in. I thought I was watching experts from all the kinda stuff they release, but no. These guys just make content on stuff they discover from research, and that'll make good videos. Not gonna lie, that's freaking awesome lol
6:09 the exhaust is almost falling off
I’m ready for a HiLow engine swap episode where James throws like a 2j or Ls engine in it
Lsx vs vortec
My '65 Mustang has a live (solid) axle. It chirps the inside tire if I get aggressive on the throttle in a tight turn, but I like squealing tires so it's not a problem for me. I dug a furrow in the road outside my house when the chip seal was still soft.
I want to see the difference between a cheap cat back exhaust and an expensive cat back exhaust, great video! We want more!