US sanctions on china did 2 things : 1) jump start china semiconductor industry 2) US loses the biggest semiconductor market. Truly one stone and 2 birds
Ok well in that case - why does China want the export controls taken off? And why didn't they just.. self-impose the export controls, since its only made them better?
The misconceived US sanctions regime has also significantly reduced revenue at the US/Western chip companies and chip related equipment companies (ASML, etc.), which REDUCES these companies' abilities to fund their R&D, which threatens their ability to compete with China in the future. All-in-all, the sanctions have been an enormous failure that has achieved the exact opposite of its intended effect.
It is because JP is a vessel state colonized by US. JP govt doesn’t have the freedom & rights to make it own decision. That’s why JP was forced to signed the unfair treaty in the 80s, resulting the collapse of all JP tech companies.
@@whatyousaid1375 I agree that Japan (and Germany) have essentially been militarily occupied by the US ever since the end of WWII, and that neither has truly regained their full sovereignty as a result.
The Chinese people are grateful to this genius for giving China the opportunity to develop chips. I have recently read a lot of posts about the chip war, and I saw the condescending mentality of Westerners. It is so funny. Yes, China can only achieve 7NM in high-yield mass production at present, but within 5 years, China will not only catch up with the cutting-edge level, but also use domestically produced lithography machines to mass-produce chips with high yields, and the Chinese will definitely make chips as cheap as cabbage. In the end, you will see that the Chinese throw away EUV like diapers because the chips produced by this technology route consume too much power. When low-price high-performance chips hit the Western market like a flood, I hope this gentleman can come out and say a few words. When Westerners see that China is fighting against the entire West with its own strength in cutting-edge technology and has won, I hope you will not panic and blame China for the surplus production capacity.
@@valetudo1569 It's peanuts compared to Taiwan and Japan. Even China is the leader in legacy chips. USA will have to spend at least a decade to build an indigenous ecosystem for semiconductors.
This guy was a academic on Russian history who has no knowledge in engineering. Just by writing a book, he turned himself into an "expert" on semiconductor. What a joke!
Wonder if he had any input in the ruble to rubble, Russian economy in tatters with sanctions or the Russian army is fighting with shovels and washing machine chips powering fighter planes, tanks and hypersonic missiles? Seems like that kind of genius.
Apple in India is only take care the final part of the packaging the iPhone. India only take care the last tiny piece of the whole process. The raw materials and parts are all from China. That’s why Tim Cook keeps going to China instead of India.
This guy does not understand that the top end chip only makes up 2% of all semiconductors. It is the maturing tech semiconductor that make up most of the leading semiconductor makers revenue. It is like a building you are building a tower. Chris here mention apple and india it is probably worth noting that apple iphone assebling contractor like foxconn is quietly recommision a new factory in zhenzhou to assemble the new iphone and pulling back from India. India has lost 43% of fdi in 2024.
Is not about the race between US and China or who will win this race, is about wisdom which you are preventing the scientists, students to learn for the new invention in the world. I did not invent to make you rich or famous, wisdom first then you can talk about money and you do the contrary money first, even money before God is for you. Respect the wisdom - honor to the genius.
I still can't comprehend the definition of war. Can it be called war when an adult attack a toddler who can't even fight back and just accept the hardship?
So these guys are literally saying that western companies should be somehow protected ...... I dnt understand that....why shud western companies be protected....its a free market...why can they just compete and defeat chinese tech...😅😅😅
This guy was a academic on Russian history who has no knowledge in engineering. Just by writing a book, he turned himself into an "expert" on semiconductor. What a joke! ！
Both sides of the protagonists won their respective chip wars, considering that each side achieved a certain degree of successes in their endeavor against their opponent. The US succeeded in isolating the Chinese to obtain state of the art semi-conductor chips, related technologies and equipment from the leading global suppliers, thus seriously limiting China’s options. China, on the other hand, is forced to ramp-up its legacy chips production capacity, as well as pour in open-ended funds to conduct intensive R & D to develop their long neglected semi-conductor industry, given their previous preference to purchase from leading foreign suppliers. In due course, the US-led collective west and China would eventually develop very different kinds of semi-conductor chip architectures that would separate its use on a regional level.
we are told that capitalism and free markets direct investment the most efficiently, but US can't accomplish that. Why not? Is wall st broken? by greed and corruption?
I love products not company, and right now i have some devices which have US made chip inside, but now on i will make sure that i will not use or purchase american chip, there are good alternatives available like MediaTek in mobile devices and for PC soon an arm based Alternative will be available like snapdragon x elite frome the MediaTek i will buy those instead of American, because american are supporting Israel and i will boycott America.
China makes Good Potato Waffers/ Chips hence must focus on it rather than Semiconductor Chips. Bcoz China Semiconductor Chips Not good as it don't perform well Compair to South Korean / Taiwanese Semi. Chips. Everything can not be copied.
US sanctions on china did 2 things : 1) jump start china semiconductor industry 2) US loses the biggest semiconductor market. Truly one stone and 2 birds
😋😋😋
Ok well in that case - why does China want the export controls taken off? And why didn't they just.. self-impose the export controls, since its only made them better?
Everything is a matter of time in technology due to its dynamism, things evolve as time passes and money flows.
The misconceived US sanctions regime has also significantly reduced revenue at the US/Western chip companies and chip related equipment companies (ASML, etc.), which REDUCES these companies' abilities to fund their R&D, which threatens their ability to compete with China in the future. All-in-all, the sanctions have been an enormous failure that has achieved the exact opposite of its intended effect.
@@davidk6269 Those companies will be just fine, don't you worry.
The US was able to effectively diminish the Japanese chip industry decades ago, but the same strategy is failing against China.
It is because JP is a vessel state colonized by US. JP govt doesn’t have the freedom & rights to make it own decision. That’s why JP was forced to signed the unfair treaty in the 80s, resulting the collapse of all JP tech companies.
JPnese have lost their marbles
@@whatyousaid1375 I agree that Japan (and Germany) have essentially been militarily occupied by the US ever since the end of WWII, and that neither has truly regained their full sovereignty as a result.
我观看了一个美国黑人在日本地铁上大声用广岛原子弹羞辱日本人，而日本人只能逃避的视频，深感日本人确实是被美国殖民的，历史上只有中国温柔对待日本，历史上只有日本伤害中国，真是奇怪。
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The Chinese people are grateful to this genius for giving China the opportunity to develop chips. I have recently read a lot of posts about the chip war, and I saw the condescending mentality of Westerners. It is so funny. Yes, China can only achieve 7NM in high-yield mass production at present, but within 5 years, China will not only catch up with the cutting-edge level, but also use domestically produced lithography machines to mass-produce chips with high yields, and the Chinese will definitely make chips as cheap as cabbage. In the end, you will see that the Chinese throw away EUV like diapers because the chips produced by this technology route consume too much power. When low-price high-performance chips hit the Western market like a flood, I hope this gentleman can come out and say a few words. When Westerners see that China is fighting against the entire West with its own strength in cutting-edge technology and has won, I hope you will not panic and blame China for the surplus production capacity.
Chip manufacturing is dead inthe US.
Actually its increasing rapidly
@@valetudo1569
It's peanuts compared to Taiwan and Japan.
Even China is the leader in legacy chips.
USA will have to spend at least a decade to build an indigenous ecosystem for semiconductors.
A few months ago, I read Qualcomm is getting into Harmony OS. If the US is winning, why should Qualcomm be bothered with Harmony OS?
Those two things have nothing to do with each other
@@valetudo1569
Exactly.
Nobody wants to get blackmailed by Google.
US sees chip dominance as a foreign policy tool, whereas China sees chip dominance as a money making proposition.
Look at what happened to Intel. The game is over!
usa betting on loser intel post andy groove.
Intel got sanctioned by china soon, backdoors found.
😅😂😆🤣
usa treat each invention as something unique and price accordingly . china innovates and treat it as just commodity. Huge difference .
exactly. EV's and solar panels are recent best examples to support your claim.
This guy was a academic on Russian history who has no knowledge in engineering. Just by writing a book, he turned himself into an "expert" on semiconductor. What a joke!
I'm glad the west is using dated information and will always be behind
Wonder if he had any input in the ruble to rubble, Russian economy in tatters with sanctions or the Russian army is fighting with shovels and washing machine chips powering fighter planes, tanks and hypersonic missiles? Seems like that kind of genius.
Don't try China never claimed "war" against any country. Always wanted cooperation grounded on win win principle
Co-operation are you f joking 😂😂😂
Judging by the success of Starliner, and China's ascension to the space program 🤔🤔🤔🤔 I wonder who will win the dominance of technological innovation?
American economists have explained why chip making has left usa.
Apple in India is only take care the final part of the packaging the iPhone. India only take care the last tiny piece of the whole process. The raw materials and parts are all from China. That’s why Tim Cook keeps going to China instead of India.
The information in this interview sounds too dated to be of any relevance.
The information provided by Miller is dated.
This guy does not understand that the top end chip only makes up 2% of all semiconductors. It is the maturing tech semiconductor that make up most of the leading semiconductor makers revenue. It is like a building you are building a tower. Chris here mention apple and india it is probably worth noting that apple iphone assebling contractor like foxconn is quietly recommision a new factory in zhenzhou to assemble the new iphone and pulling back from India. India has lost 43% of fdi in 2024.
Is not about the race between US and China or who will win this race, is about wisdom which you are preventing the scientists, students to learn for the new invention in the world.
I did not invent to make you rich or famous, wisdom first then you can talk about money and you do the contrary money first, even money before God is for you.
Respect the wisdom - honor to the genius.
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No doubt it is the US who is winning as she always does. Love from China.
I still can't comprehend the definition of war. Can it be called war when an adult attack a toddler who can't even fight back and just accept the hardship?
For now, of course, China has lost, but the future is uncertain; the United States hasn’t won either.
So these guys are literally saying that western companies should be somehow protected ...... I dnt understand that....why shud western companies be protected....its a free market...why can they just compete and defeat chinese tech...😅😅😅
This guy was a academic on Russian history who has no knowledge in engineering. Just by writing a book, he turned himself into an "expert" on semiconductor. What a joke! ！
This is not expert of chips war‼️....he is helping 🇨🇳 won chips war‼️🤣🤣🤣🤣✌️
Both sides of the protagonists won their respective chip wars, considering that each side achieved a certain degree of successes in their endeavor against their opponent. The US succeeded in isolating the Chinese to obtain state of the art semi-conductor chips, related technologies and equipment from the leading global suppliers, thus seriously limiting China’s options. China, on the other hand, is forced to ramp-up its legacy chips production capacity, as well as pour in open-ended funds to conduct intensive R & D to develop their long neglected semi-conductor industry, given their previous preference to purchase from leading foreign suppliers. In due course, the US-led collective west and China would eventually develop very different kinds of semi-conductor chip architectures that would separate its use on a regional level.
we are told that capitalism and free markets direct investment the most efficiently, but US can't accomplish that. Why not? Is wall st broken? by greed and corruption?
Imagina que as pessoas assistem isso e acreditam ter se informado de algo.
Por isso nós damos risada quando vocês tentam conversar conosco
The fight still in progress. Too early to declare victory either way.
So china makes her own.
China is a big country with a huge population.
Intel 😅😂😆🤣
👌😃👍🇨🇳 won‼️👍😃👌
I love products not company, and right now i have some devices which have US made chip inside, but now on i will make sure that i will not use or purchase american chip, there are good alternatives available like MediaTek in mobile devices and for PC soon an arm based Alternative will be available like snapdragon x elite frome the MediaTek i will buy those instead of American, because american are supporting Israel and i will boycott America.
You will know the winner in the near future. No point speculating.
This guy is a joke he doesn't know what he's talking about
What would winnie (Xitler) do? That's the MILLION DOLLAR Question.
They have the machine already lithografhy
China build 10x faster at tiny fraction of cost in usa. Reason is Chinese engineers work 16/7 with no day offs . no vacation . at super cheap salary .
Its in the culture, productive chinese find joy in work. I myself as chinese descent feels that.
Chinese are very Patriotic, they do their work for the love of their country China.
keep this mindset
China makes Good Potato Waffers/ Chips hence must focus on it rather than Semiconductor Chips. Bcoz China Semiconductor Chips Not good as it don't perform well Compair to South Korean / Taiwanese Semi. Chips. Everything can not be copied.
Write japanese... don't pretend you know English.
china bots coping hard in the comments lol
Whoever disagree with u is a china bot? What r u? A mindless bot who can only calling other bots as arguments?
Jai hind