Tasting NEW Vegan Cream Cheese - Miyokos Kitchen

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  • @christinaarundale8583
    @christinaarundale8583 6 років тому +32

    There are two kinds of people: the ones who like a little cream cheese with their bread, and those who prefer a little bread with their cream cheese.

  • @NikkiMezz
    @NikkiMezz 6 років тому +10

    Cover whole cream cheese with vegan retried beans, microwave couple of minutes top with salsa guacamole etc, party starter for sure.

  • @MISSYMINX261
    @MISSYMINX261 6 років тому +14

    I tried the cream cheese on a vegan cruise I went on. It is so good!! been waiting for it to be in the stores

    • @wokest118
      @wokest118 6 років тому +8

      MISSYMINX261 vegan cruise? Sounds amazing

    • @sozuruQ2
      @sozuruQ2 4 роки тому

      MISSYMINX261 huh? There’s a vegan cruise? Lol

  • @lukakitchen8398
    @lukakitchen8398 6 років тому +33

    Miyoko need to make greek yogurt.

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 6 років тому +2

      Luka Kitchen she needs to STOP over charging SO DAM MUCH
      And stop.passing sour over for true cheesy flavor!

  • @dkrt8664
    @dkrt8664 6 років тому +6

    The cream cheese is occasionally available on Miyoko's website, but it is not being distributed to stores just yet.

    • @allimurphy9984
      @allimurphy9984 6 років тому

      D Turner I just bought some from my local store lol

  • @suzybrat2945
    @suzybrat2945 6 років тому +2

    I love to use some of her soft cheeses, melted on pasta. So good! I can't wait to try these.

  • @ruthcarbajal9642
    @ruthcarbajal9642 6 років тому +1

    My family and I love eating cream cheese and salsa. The two go very well together.

  • @mjdonson8586
    @mjdonson8586 6 років тому +1

    I tried Miyokos this weekend at the Oakland Vegfest...OMG THE BEST!!! I'm hooked!

  • @thatgirlinokc3975
    @thatgirlinokc3975 6 років тому +11

    Miyoko's sounds amazing. I haven't yet had the pleasure but I'm looking forward to it! Austin? Go for it! Cesar wouldn't want to leave the birthplace of NADAMOO! Love the taste test videos! Thanks for all the expo videos and flying into a winter storm getting back to Sryacruse... I remember that day. 🌱💚

  • @shoshanakleiman1591
    @shoshanakleiman1591 6 років тому +1

    We also used to dump salsa on a mountain of cream cheese. Yum! Now I make my own since I can’t get Miyoko.

  • @robinodowd458
    @robinodowd458 6 років тому

    I never ate lox but loved the Un lox cheese. I put it on a toasted bagel and added capers.

  • @teenagedreamer14
    @teenagedreamer14 6 років тому +1

    My family does the salsa over cream cheese too

  • @lttlod1
    @lttlod1 6 років тому +1

    I need to try the lox, I would love that! I did try the Heidi Ho cheese spread because it was on sale but wasn't the biggest fan sadly. My Walmart had these new shredded pulled "pork" which I made a taco with and it was very good. Added some spices too! Seems like a wave of new products and I'm excited to get them.

  • @alsoran13
    @alsoran13 6 років тому

    If you haven't been to Balsam Bagels in Rochester, check out their vegan lox next time you're in town. They make it from carrots. They have several vegan cream cheese flavors, sides, soups, and baked goods.

  • @veganbeautyaddict
    @veganbeautyaddict 6 років тому +1

    Growing up in upstate NY, the cheddar one gave me serious flashbacks to holiday parties too!

  • @md8465
    @md8465 6 років тому

    I really love the Miyokos butter it is the real deal. Not sure you guys are crazy for the products you tasted today.

  • @loveanddreambig
    @loveanddreambig 5 років тому +2

    Feel like this is a necessary warning, since I just bought the plain cream cheese for the first time.
    It is much more sour and tangy than I expected. It’s not bad, it just startled me. If you’re looking for a milder, sweeter cream cheese, this isn’t it. However, if I think of it as a sharper cheese spread, it is quite good!

    • @bbbean
      @bbbean 5 років тому

      Yesss... tried this brand since my normal brand wasn't available. Got it to go with some apple cinnamon bread I have and it was so bad!! I thought it would be a mild, more traditional cream cheese. It's very sharp. I'm going to try eating it with something else, because it's not necessarily bad, but bad for what I was expecting :(

  • @talkandeattv
    @talkandeattv 6 років тому +1

    her cheese is the best and it also is the healthiest out of all the other vegan cheeses!

  • @kaitlynteague5276
    @kaitlynteague5276 6 років тому +3

    I was 14 when I quit eating animals too! I'm 31 now and haven't looked back :-)

  • @noitalfed
    @noitalfed 6 років тому +4

    I will be vegan for 6 years in June 2018. Looking forward To eating Miyoko’s new creation.

  • @Janet_Price
    @Janet_Price 6 років тому +1

    I was self-employed for a number of years and it's very hard work. I loved working more hours than a regular work week because I was passionate about what I did. If you love your work, the hours fly by - sometimes. Self-employment is not for everyone, but it's the most rewarding "job" I ever had.

  • @graytabbie
    @graytabbie 6 років тому

    Got to love the Dave's Killer Bread! Can't wait to try these (well, all but the lox one)...

  • @Wormwoodification
    @Wormwoodification 6 років тому +4

    I'm dying for the unlox!!!💛💛 Also plain cream cheese makes bomb mashed potatoes.

  • @michellep7158
    @michellep7158 6 років тому +12

    You guys are amazing. Keep saving the animals!

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      Michelle P there not saving animals
      There promoting companies products they get free so the companies get rich on a food trend
      And they get paid for these Videos
      Fact is you want to STOP.breeding cattle
      Not save
      If there alive theyll be slaughtered
      Big companies that sell
      .animal products are buying up these companies.
      No animals are being saved
      But many people are getting very rich
      Stuff comes in plastic containers too
      Not cool..
      It's a Food Trend
      Buy produce beans nuts grains
      You can make all this stuff yourself
      You tubes full of videos

  • @patriciakinsella8803
    @patriciakinsella8803 4 роки тому

    Some of Miyoko’s cream cheeses are NOW available online! 👍🏼🥰👍🏼💙💕

  • @patriciamcdonald6149
    @patriciamcdonald6149 6 років тому +11

    Miyoko totally deserves her success, she's been a leader in making veganism mainstream. She had a chicken companion years ago, how cool is that. Nice to hear your opinion of her cream cheese.

  • @bm4867
    @bm4867 6 років тому +2

    She can do no wrong ... I actually crave butter now thanks to her

  • @susunslatky9278
    @susunslatky9278 6 років тому +1

    I love how y’all smell your food first!

  • @seitanicgirl
    @seitanicgirl 6 років тому +11

    How does the Miyoko's plain cream cheese compare to Kite Hills plain cream cheese?

    • @grapetomatogirl2141
      @grapetomatogirl2141 6 років тому

      Bry Johnson,
      Thanks for the reply to Seitanic Girls question.
      I spotted Kite Hills plain cream cheese at Sprouts last week and was debating whether to try it or not. However, Miyoko’s had a great sale on their cream cheeses and I loaded up on them. When we’re out, I’ll try the Kite Hill brand.
      I have to say, though, that I recreated an almost spot-on copy-cat vegan version of my *Buffalo Crack & Cheese* recipe, using Miyoko’s cheddar cream cheese.
      A few years ago I had combined two of Chef Johns/Food Wishes recipes (Creamy Buffalo Dip and Thomas Jefferson’s Mac & Cheese) and tweeted a few things to our families taste buds for my original recipe.
      I’ve only been plant based for a little over a year now. That is one of the main recipes I’ve missed. It was soooo good to be able to enjoy this dish again- vegan style
      🥰

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 6 років тому

      Bry Johnson Tofutti n
      Daiya
      30. Years eating vegan since a child and professional head Chef since a teenager.

    • @j9501b
      @j9501b 5 років тому

      I AGREE KITE HILL SUCKED @@DDios-ih9de

    • @princess3193
      @princess3193 5 років тому

      Seitanic Girl. I tried Kite Hill onion and chive and it was pretty close to dairy cream cheese. I didn't try the plain, but I tried the plain Tofutti and it tasted just like dairy cream cheese...I was surprised!

  • @MrsCMH
    @MrsCMH 6 років тому

    I loved this journey. You made me feel like you were taking us along for the ride.

  • @grapetomatogirl2141
    @grapetomatogirl2141 6 років тому +1

    ~ My tip for Miyoko’s cheeses is removing the plastic seal (then replacing the lid) 24 hours before eating/using it in recipes.
    I don’t why doing this makes it taste more like the real thing,
    (At least, to me and our family), but, it does
    🌱 🧀 ♥️
    (I do this with all Miyoko’s cheeses)
    😃

  • @veganlovebirds1559
    @veganlovebirds1559 6 років тому

    Before we went vegan (over 5 years ago), lox and cream cheese bagels were a staple....can't wait to try!

  • @karenschiavone3068
    @karenschiavone3068 6 років тому

    Fantastic video, never tried any of her products , hopefully soon. Love Cesars new channel. Chris your my favorite, keep the videos coming you are an inspiration to the vegan community.

  • @cbdislife2514
    @cbdislife2514 6 років тому

    it's already on the market. i've seen those for months at whole foods and nooch here in Denver. glad you guys taste tested em. i haven't tried them yet. i was hesitant because they are pricey and I really like the kate hil chive one.

    • @TheVeganZombie
      @TheVeganZombie  6 років тому +1

      The cream cheeses aren't on shelves yet. I just talked to her about it before I uploaded the video. The Roadhouse cheeses may be and you can get the other on her online store.

    • @cbdislife2514
      @cbdislife2514 6 років тому

      The Vegan Zombie ah that must be what I saw. The packaging looked very familiar. Will be looking for them! 👀

  • @karakleinhans7277
    @karakleinhans7277 6 років тому

    Love the video! Really want to try miyoko’s! Haven’t seen it in any grocery stores but hopefully soon! Keep up the amazing work Chris! Xo

  • @rc9638
    @rc9638 6 років тому +1

    Started noticing myokos products at my local Wegmans in the past six months. Can't wait for these cream cheese spreads to appear on the shelf! Thank you for normalizing the vegan way. Living in Virginia where pigs and peanuts are major money makers, focusing on the vegan side of things tends to alienate one.

  • @hilovefor3314
    @hilovefor3314 6 років тому +1

    $13.+ in Hilo. I buy it once or twice a year.

  • @billthorne1
    @billthorne1 6 років тому

    Thanks for the Miyokos coupon code. Recently ordered online what we couldn't get locally. Used the "Cheers to Cheddar" pub cheeze in a green chile pasta sauce. Divine! The code will help us gorge on even more tasty Miyokos cheeze. Also -- Phoenix needs rain, Chris. Are you interested in a trip to the desert?

  • @joshuawedel5123
    @joshuawedel5123 6 років тому +1

    They are already at my Natural Grocer

    • @TheVeganZombie
      @TheVeganZombie  6 років тому +1

      Maybe the Roadhouse but not the cream cheese. It's not in stores yet.

  • @magnolia1662
    @magnolia1662 3 роки тому

    I tried the miyoko cream cheese everything I liked that one, the miyoko oatmeal cream cheese was very greasy feeling did not taste like cream cheese. Now just waiting to buy the miyoko cashew plain cream cheese which I heard people loved it.

  • @BethGrantDeRoos
    @BethGrantDeRoos 6 років тому

    Nice thing about Miyoko being west of us here in northern California is they are available at her place.

  • @NREnger
    @NREnger 6 років тому

    @Everywhere 4ever I did the cream cheese salsa plate thing to with chips!! The treeline cream cheese is good also. I have been making my own since these cream cheese are expensive and it is WAY CHEAPER making your own.

  • @jillschwartz2442
    @jillschwartz2442 6 років тому

    Can't wait to try these when they officially come out!! 🙌🏼🌱

  • @HoneyDubey23
    @HoneyDubey23 6 років тому +1

    I got the unlox one and it does not taste good plus it is very salty

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      Honey Dubey because it's full of seaweed extract and not balanced her stuffs sour uck

  • @adamc.3311
    @adamc.3311 6 років тому

    LOVE this product!

  • @ThirteenDarkRoses
    @ThirteenDarkRoses 6 років тому +1

    That looks delicious. Thanks guys for making yet another awesome vid. ✌&❤

  • @Cypheye
    @Cypheye 6 років тому

    If you guys go to Austin I can recommend some really good spots.

  • @tonibenedict5751
    @tonibenedict5751 6 років тому +1

    I loved the cultured butter from Miyoko so I tried the un-lox cream cheese. I actually hated it...no similaeity whatsover to a lox- like taste.

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      Toni Benedict its seaweed extract and whatever sour stuff she puts in her stuff that's insanely over priced

  • @Sissytaz
    @Sissytaz 6 років тому +3

    Lox is a fillet of brined salmon.

    • @CelesteKristan4444
      @CelesteKristan4444 6 років тому +2

      I used to love lox before I went vegan. I can't wait to try Miyokos!!!!

  • @briannabohland3692
    @briannabohland3692 6 років тому +1

    I just made a video tasting some of her cheeses along with the unlox your dreams cream cheese! Check it out!

  • @nklepper
    @nklepper 6 років тому +9

    Can you do a cheesecake video?

    • @TheVeganZombie
      @TheVeganZombie  6 років тому

      Nicole K How’s this? 😄 ua-cam.com/video/-FbPnkbl6yk/v-deo.html

  • @divineunion
    @divineunion 6 років тому +4

    I love your videos. I would like to see a non vegan try these with you to get their perspective.

    • @isaisa8888
      @isaisa8888 4 роки тому

      My boyfriend tried the plain and said it wasn't as sweet as regular cream cheese and almost tasted a little bit sour. But then he ate the entire bagel with this all over it. Then he ate a second one. He ate the cheddar cheese one and loved it.
      I told him they were vegan after he ate them.

  • @md8465
    @md8465 6 років тому

    We love having you in Cali

  • @debjb5038
    @debjb5038 6 років тому

    Btw, I've been looking for nadamoo strawberry cheesecake & I can't find it. I've tried birthday cake & it was good. I've also purchased some rocky road but I haven't tried it yet.

    • @TheVeganZombie
      @TheVeganZombie  6 років тому +1

      It's still pretty new. The Rockiest Road is my favorite. :)

    • @debjb5038
      @debjb5038 6 років тому

      The Vegan Zombie cool! I'm glad that I've purchased it!😁

  • @cepwin
    @cepwin 6 років тому

    Sounds great! I put myself in for an email when the vegan "lox" cream cheese is available. Btw you inspired me to get an air fryer today :) Are you going to be at veg fest DC in September?

  • @valnaples
    @valnaples 6 років тому

    KIte Hill also makes a lovely cream cheez...I will try Miyokos sometime soon!

  • @irenejanith2371
    @irenejanith2371 5 років тому

    I found out I’m pregnant and I absolutely love lox on my bagels but smoked fish is a no go for pregnancy 😢 I recently found out about Miyokos unlox vegan cream cheese and I cannot wait to try it out!

  • @sarahkay5236
    @sarahkay5236 6 років тому

    You should do a Violife cheese and cream cheese taste test if you have not done one yet 👍

    • @TheVeganZombie
      @TheVeganZombie  6 років тому

      Here's one ua-cam.com/video/DZ_9yT61TJQ/v-deo.html

  • @nalanisullivan9997
    @nalanisullivan9997 6 років тому +4

    I LOVE SALSA ON MY CREAM CHEESE "VEGAN" is this brand better than kitehill?

  • @judygrayson7896
    @judygrayson7896 6 років тому

    What are the ingredients of the unlox your dreams? It may give you a hint of flavors. Please share. Thanks

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      Judy Dubinsky Seaweed extracts
      Uck
      Carrot LOX is better with Tofutti cream cheese or Daiya Ive been V for decades since a kid
      Carrot LOX vids are here on UA-cam

  • @luvmypup-_-6955
    @luvmypup-_-6955 6 років тому

    Cream cheese yay that was my favorite

  • @nicoleslife6803
    @nicoleslife6803 6 років тому +3

    Lmao Cesar is my inner spirit animal " i love donuts... Nadamoo" xD

    • @wokest118
      @wokest118 6 років тому +1

      nicole slife everyone needs a Cesar in their life

  • @elsalisa146
    @elsalisa146 6 років тому

    I’ve tried the salsa and cream cheese. It’s munchie food.

  • @jaynesixx2185
    @jaynesixx2185 6 років тому +1

    You need some vegan Bagels with that. Cholesterol free love that. Classic movie. Yes, Miyoko is a amazing woman. Yes she does other Countries but if I want her cheese I have to travel a bit for it. Yes Please Austin take over.

  • @r.annrousseau170
    @r.annrousseau170 6 років тому

    Called Dairy Manager Mr Cruz at Market Basket in Portsmouth, NH to get Miyokos. They put in n a request to their main office. Market Basket is the biggest gricery store chain in New England. If you know a Miyokos sales reo, tell them to get into Market Basket. They can call the Dairy manager in Portsmouth to find out how to get to the right person.

  • @artsygirlmarilyn6296
    @artsygirlmarilyn6296 6 років тому

    Is it whipped cream cheese or regular cream cheese texture? Price point?

    • @rennemarie
      @rennemarie 6 років тому +2

      ArtsyGirlMarilyn I heard her brand is expensive so I wouldn't be suprised that it is.

    • @blulinx
      @blulinx 6 років тому +2

      I would say yes, it may be pricey, but it’s comparable to other vegan brands in terms of price. With respect to quality, Miyoko’s is in the upper echelon of vegan products.

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      ArtsyGirlMarilyn Tofutti cream cheese has whipped and regular
      There the only ones
      Been buying it fa decades

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      rennemarie And NOT worth it

  • @Drea_A
    @Drea_A 6 років тому +2

    Kite Hill is SHOOK

  • @laurafere2290
    @laurafere2290 6 років тому

    You really should be trying the cream cheeses on (preferably everything) bagels, not bread. But love your videos.

  • @aveganeverywhere
    @aveganeverywhere 6 років тому +1

    I love her hard cheese cant wait for this to come out.

  • @catieecasciole1980
    @catieecasciole1980 6 років тому +6

    Sweet action Batman! I got first comment!! Can't wait to try them!!

  • @sydneytaylor5735
    @sydneytaylor5735 4 роки тому

    I always make my non vegan friends try things so I know if they taste like the real thing because at this point my tastebuds don't remember

  • @adiposerex5150
    @adiposerex5150 6 років тому +3

    What, no bagels? 😦 oh, I hope vegan is the future.❤️

  • @WonderfullHana
    @WonderfullHana 6 років тому

    I love you vegan zombies, like i really do, you seem like nice people, hope i'll meet you someday.

  • @thetruth4865
    @thetruth4865 5 років тому

    finally tried it. it tastes like coconut.

  • @generationwellness
    @generationwellness 6 років тому

    I have watched in ages but what happened to the other guy from syracuse?

  • @genevieveskehan9925
    @genevieveskehan9925 5 років тому +1

    I’m gonna be completely honest. I’ve only tried the lox, but it’s shite. And I’m so sad cuz I was so stoked for miyokos. I think I need to try something else. The flavor on the lox is just off. Way too much citrus, it makes your stomach churn. The consistency was perfect though. So maybe the other flavors will cut it.

  • @alishaxoxos
    @alishaxoxos 6 років тому +9

    Waiting on the sweet alternative to “honey butter”

    • @rc9638
      @rc9638 6 років тому

      onegoldcell have you experimented with making your own version? Perhaps earth balance tub spread with some agave or maple syrup?

    • @alishaxoxos
      @alishaxoxos 6 років тому +1

      R C Thanks, I’ll give it a try!

  • @WonderfullHana
    @WonderfullHana 6 років тому +1

    When will she start shipping internationlly? 😭💔

  • @Alinutz321
    @Alinutz321 6 років тому

    Wish we had those in Europe

  • @theokirkley
    @theokirkley 5 років тому

    Miyoko might be a workaholic!

  • @kaizureki
    @kaizureki 6 років тому

    i really wanna try it but Miyokos is really expensive :/

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      Karen Reki And not worth it

  • @ciaracorr6015
    @ciaracorr6015 4 роки тому

    She needs to open a restaurant

  • @tammyf79
    @tammyf79 6 років тому

    Austin take over, PLEASE!!!!

  • @BradCapello
    @BradCapello 6 років тому +2

    Come on, be honest guys. I know for a fact that these cream cheeses are somewhat sour tasting. anyone agree?

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      Brad Capello Myokios! Uck sour not cheesy

  • @r.annrousseau170
    @r.annrousseau170 6 років тому

    A great example of West Coast meets East Coast. The Dynamic Vegan Duo! Great video. If your viewers have not seen documentary What the Health, I highly recommend it. You can watch it free on YT. Click on the selection wirh spanish subtitles.

  • @Primrose420
    @Primrose420 5 років тому +1

    I feel the cream cheese is way too tangy. I like Violife better.

  • @jeyrobles8418
    @jeyrobles8418 6 років тому

    4:38 i thought u said ass!!

    • @TheVeganZombie
      @TheVeganZombie  6 років тому +1

      I thought that too when I was editing it. I had to listen to it like 3 times.

  • @maracordon1286
    @maracordon1286 6 років тому +3

    You making me salavte sniffing that cheese

  • @scoobydoo7346
    @scoobydoo7346 6 років тому

    During the zombie apocalypse....

  • @jarrickhillery8664
    @jarrickhillery8664 5 років тому

    I’ve been trying to go vegan, but my cashew allergy is getting in the way :P

  • @6122ula
    @6122ula 4 роки тому

    ... Cured smoked salmon...

  • @LuxuriesOnTheLow
    @LuxuriesOnTheLow 5 років тому

    I just bought the plain and omg it was disgusting and smelled sour maybe I got a bad batch

  • @arthrodea
    @arthrodea 5 років тому

    That Unlox Your Dreams vegan cream cheese tastes NOTHING like actual smoked salmon. It has a very weird briney flavor.... I didn't like it at all. I was actually disappointed in the Myokos cream cheese - it was very dense and didn't have that creamy taste like real cream cheese. Its interesting on its own if you think of it as a "nut cheese' dip.... but its a far cry from real cream cheese.

    • @DDios-ih9de
      @DDios-ih9de 5 років тому

      arthrodea she puts seaweed extract in it
      Try making Carrot LOX
      Put on a bagel with Tofutti cream cheese or Daiya onion n chive
      There are carrot LOX recipes here on you tube
      Double the seaweed add dash garlic n onion smoked paprika to marinade its great
      You could mash it together into a spread or just some marinade
      I've been hooked on that for ages..
      Screw M.S.

  • @oglingling
    @oglingling 5 років тому +1

    Y’all liars! The plainly classic is by far the most disgusting, rancid, acidic, sour tasting invention trying to be sold off as cream cheese ever! The other two flavors by far are much better but for a sweeter taste and cream cheese like old times try tofutti. And stay very far away from this

  • @adamaj74
    @adamaj74 6 років тому

    Who the fuck eats cream cheese on plain, untoasted bread? smh

    • @TheVeganZombie
      @TheVeganZombie  6 років тому

      adamaj watch it again. Turn the sound up when we bite into it. 4:10 crunch. It’s toasted.

    • @adamaj74
      @adamaj74 6 років тому

      Should have used a bagel like a normal person. Your bread to cheese ratio is wack! :P

  • @TrevaTrend
    @TrevaTrend 5 років тому

    That cream cheese is horrible. It. Shouldn’t even be called cream cheese.

  • @hunterboyer4862
    @hunterboyer4862 6 років тому

    I don’t get it, humans are living organisms at the same time wolves are living organisms technically we both are categorized as animals wolves eat lamb people eat lamb, lambs are living sentient beings and they don’t want to die but the wolf was hungry. And so was the human. I think veganism is a great way to stay healthy but the whole murdering animals thing makes virtually no sense.

    • @MondayMorningMist
      @MondayMorningMist 6 років тому

      Personally I'm a supporter of veganism more for the health/environmental aspects than for the animal murdering aspect, but some people like to think of it this way: wolves are carnivores, so they have to eat other animals to survive. Humans can be perfectly healthy on a vegan diet, so unlike the wolf, humans have the choice not to eat animals, but some choose to still consume other animals for pleasure. So when choice is involved, that's when the entire murder argument is brought up.

    • @TheVeganZombie
      @TheVeganZombie  6 років тому +2

      Humans don't have to hurt or eat animals in 2018. It's all unnecessary. Does it make sense now?