I actually like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Yeah, it's not perfect, but it at least has some memorable moments like the communist motorcycle chase around the college campus, the giant killer ants, the sandpit scene where Mutt has to rescue Indy with a snake, and of course, the nuclear bomb scene.
People can say what they want about Crystal Skull (I enjoyed it for what it was), at least Indy still felt like Indy and the ending when he takes his hat back from his son was gold. Also, I never had a problem with the idea of aliens being in the Indiana Jones universe. If you're going to have an ark that melts your face, or the fountain of youth, you might as well have aliens in there at that point. The filmmakers at least tried to make it fit within the universe. It's also not like there haven't been theories about aliens helping to build our civilization or being worshipped as gods. You could've easily called Crystal Skull "Indiana Jones and The Chariots of The Gods" (a little nod to Erich von Däniken's novel and claims). I also give the film leeway because I've always been interested in Von Daniken's claims, primarily since I first got into the Stargate franchise (which also dealt with a crystal skull in one episode). Also, nice to see you on here, Hewy. I really enjoyed your content back in the "fellow in the coat" days.
It’s a good movie. I think most of the hatred of the film comes from group think. Most of the stupid things that people complain about in crystal skull are present in the previous movies. They just come off better because the original trilogy are better shot, edited, directed, and they can just be themselves. CS has to compete with 3 excellent films. If you think that aliens are a worldbreaking or shark jumping, you’re making up rules. It totally makes sense, the concept of ancient aliens is a very well explored concept in fiction, and it could be better done is CS, but it’s serviceable IMO. I hear nobody actually complain about HOW they did it, only that they did it. It’s infuriating.
@@thevorst6119 Agree on all points. Selective outrage and making up rules about what a franchise should/shouldn't do just so you have something to be mad about drives me nuts.
Basically hit the nail on the head for why I hate Indy 5. The best part of dial is that it’s getting people to reevaluate Crystal skull and realize it’s not actually a half bad movie
@Julianjulesr1361 brooo Indy 5 had a ton of problems did you not see the video. The only thing good was the 1944 prologue. Everything in 1969 was plain whack.
Say whatever you want about the movie Kingdom of The Crystal Skull & you can hold the “Nuking The Fridge” or “Monkey Swinging Scene” all day long but it at least was both appropriate to the era and seemed a bit more of what actually would have if he were in his 60s. Also while I don’t consider Indie & Mutt as father & son…but as a Mentor to Mentee dynamic was actually excellently.
DOD erased everything that ended CS with a happy ending! Just imagine if the movie had started out with an adult Short Round, who still wears his baseball cap AND who himself was now an archaeologist! He always saw Indy as a father figure and perhaps he felt inspired by him. He finds something mysterious and decides to seek out Indy after losing contact for the past 20 years. Indy is now head of the university and has become somewhat wealthy and famous after writing several books about his adventures over the years, which would have been later adapted into the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Him and Marion are thriving and Mutt has become much more mature with him and Indy on good terms now. Maybe he comes along for the ride? Anyway, Shorty and Indy have a very happy reunion and he manages to convince Indy into one last adventure after he privately confides to him that hes been thinking of retirement. Maybe Mutt becoming a father and his age be a motivator? They go on an adventure together and they have a touching moment in the middle. The movie ends with Indy's retirement and him taking his fedora off and putting it on Shorty's head, as a symbol of passing the torch to a younger generation. Similar to the beginning of The Last Crusade. NOW THAT would have been a trihumph! I would have loved it! It would have been so easy! What do you think?
I love Short Round and this idea overall but anyone getting the fedora after Indy is gonna feel unearned to me NGL, KOTC seemed to think Mutt was well-written and a worthy successor but even it had Indy take the hat from him at the last second.
This would’ve been much better than what we got. Plus it must’ve been possible considering short rounds actor returned to films after decades to be in everything everywhere aao. He probably would’ve been so down to reprise his role. Missed opportunity 😢. phoebe waller bitch was just so shoehorned into this film…..oh yeah, that friend we’ve never heard of? he has a daughter and THATS the main character now….fuck off LOL.
If we’re being honest, Disney had this coming. For so many years, fans have been trying to get them to understand that they didn’t like the movie or show that was released due to poor ratings, quality and writing. And people have been asking Disney to focus on telling an original story and making sure that they are being respectful to the fans of a beloved franchise. But instead, what did Disney do? They accused the people who were criticizing the movies and shows of being racist, sexist, Russian bots and so much more.
To me, no sentence sums up the problem with modern Hollywood than what Eric inferred: "This movie cost $300 million, and yet I can barely remember anything about it. Not because too much happens and you get lost in it, but because it felt like practically nothing happened." By contrast, there was a $5 million Studio film (not even Indi) from 2018 called "Upgrade" -- It was smartly written, featured some intense twists, the acting was great, the cinematography was solid and the editing was great, and even just after my first viewing of the movie, I was able to have full conversations with my film friends about why I loved it, and this was a Studio film that cost only 1/60th of Indy 5! This comparison also illustrates an interesting Older vs Newer dynamic: Older movies were legitimate entertainment, just sometimes badly (or, frankly, horribly) done, whereas a lot of modern movies feel like mere content, like they're just hoping people will like it enough to buy the BluRay and then tell their friends "Oh yeah - that movie was pretty cool."
I didn't like Crystal Skull as a kid, and thought the inclusion of aliens was too far out there for me, but after 15 years, I finally gave the film a re-watch. One where I had a fresh mindset and decided to give it another chance, and I gotta say, I really enjoyed it much more now, and I don't mind the inclusion of aliens here since it makes sense to use them given when the movie is set. My only issue with the aliens is when we actually see the alien at the end after all the skulls come together, and this is because the first movies, namely Raiders and Temple, wisely chose to not actually show the main supernatural forces, in their case God and Shiva, and I think that the final scene where Spalko is killed would have been better if we didn't see it, or at least not a full glimpse of it. That said, I haven't seen DoD yet, and I'm glad I haven't
Dial of Dysentery makes Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like a masterpiece. Thing is that there are flaws with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. But the same sense of adventure was there. Dial of Destiny is yet another half assed deconstruction of a beloved hero. And Dial undoes one of the best parts of Kingdom...Indy's marriage to Marion. Then there is the great Poob in the room and that is that Phoebe Waller Bridge's Helena Shaw was so insufferable. You hit the nail on the head regarding the "failed male character" trope. Han Solo, Luke, Indy...all of them follow a similar trajectory. Jeremy Jahns pointed this out too saying if you tried this kind of copy/paste in school the teacher would tell you that you couldn't do that and tell you to do it over.
I Actually like Crystal Skull as despite it’s Flaws there was Soul, Charm, Likability, and Heart from the Original Trilogy, Dial of Destiny felt like a Mean Spirited Soulless Cash Grab that’s a Bastardization to what Makes Indiana Jones so Special but because Modern Lucasfilm and Kennedy’s Sick Agenda to Feminism in my Mind that Boring and Forgettable Film Doesn’t Exist and isn’t Canon like the Sequel Trilogy.
With James Mangold on the wheel I had hope cause he had already done a send off with Logan and I loved it, but with Indy 5 it was obvious that KK demanded this.
I never understood the hate for Kingdom of Crystal Skull. It's just as great as the original trilogy, although The Last Crusade remains the best Indiana Jones movie. As for Dial of Destiny, I enjoyed parts of the movie, the 1944 and the 1952 flashbacks, New York scenes, Antonio Banderas, Indy talking about Mutt's death (Harrison Ford acted greatly in this scene) and the ending with Marion was well acted. Still, the movie was an unnecessary addition to the franchise. I don't mind seeing an older Indiana Jones, but why making him miserable? And like how it was told the video, why not make it a story about a father and a son? Just recast Mutt, put him as a CIA agent, who asks Indy help and Indy has a final adventure and make amends with his son and could also meet his grandchild, like what happened with Rocky in Creed 2.
I never had any issues with KotCS. In fact, I enjoyed the ending more than the ending of Last Crusade. Indy finally marrying the love of his life and settling down. I liked it!
The only time I can think of where a female legacy character gets the same treatment as all those male ones you mentioned is Laurie Strode in Halloween 2018 since she’s twice divorced and not on good terms with her daughter’s family so it just shows how much male characters are being so mistreated
Couldn’t agree more. H20 is a better requel to Halloween 1978. However, 2018 wasn’t god awful. But at the same time it hasn’t aged well thanks to Kills and Ends. Lol
The Exorcist Believer is yet another failure for DGG, and I think he’s finished as a horror director. Him over spending 400 million for the IP license alone proves he doesn’t need to ruin more legacy Horror franchises.
The difference, is that Laurie does make sense for that kind of story, since many people with PTSD do get seperated and strained from their families, so I personally never minded it with her. Indiana Jones just doesn't fit that story.
Helena hit a child repeatedly with her car door…. You HIT a child with your car door…. REPEATEDLY? How was ANYONE supposed to like this character? Seriously.
Crystal skull does resolve those issues actually…Indy becomes associate dean of the school as shown by the letters scene before the wedding and for the fbi well they were concerned of his communist ties but after the events of the film it’s pretty obvious they know Indy is not a red
Indiana Jones 5 should’ve had Indy and shortround, Sala and Marion and maybe other returning characters going on the adventure and even if it was nostalgia bate, at least then it would’ve been entertaining and a great final chapter with everything culminating in one final film
People can say what they want about Crystal Skull (I enjoyed it for what it was), at least Indy still felt like Indy and the ending when he takes his hat back from his son was gold. Also, I never had a problem with the idea of aliens being in the Indiana Jones universe. If you're going to have an ark that melts your face, or the fountain of youth, you might as well have aliens in there at that point. The filmmakers at least tried to make it fit within the universe. It's also not like there haven't been theories about aliens helping to build our civilization or being worshipped as gods. You could've easily called Crystal Skull "Indiana Jones and The Chariots of The Gods" (a little nod to Erich von Däniken's novel and claims). I also give the film leeway because I've always been interested in Von Daniken's claims, primarily since I first got into the Stargate franchise (which also dealt with a crystal skull in one episode).
THANK YOU! I've been telling this to Crystal Skull naysayers since 2008. These movies had always been campy b side retro style stories with the fantastical mixed with history
Great comparison video. I actually liked Kingdom of the Crystal Skull even at release. I was a huge Shia fan due to Even Stevens, so i didn't find him annoying. The CGI was abit much but i liked that the movie respected Indiana Jones as a character. The wedding ending was a great finale for the series. This Dial of Destiny was unnecessary to begin with, so i'm sadly not surprised to hear how terrible it is. I also hate that they disrspected Mutt Williams by killing him off screen. :(
Great versus video, Eric. Since Halloween is around the corner, have you thought about doing a versus video with horror films like Saw X vs Saw VI or Final Destination vs Saw or even Child's Play vs M3GAN?
Fuck it i liked crystal skull kinda love it (nostalgia talking on that last bit) But I don't like it as much as the first 3 and I can at least say with full confidence I'll take it over whatever dial of destiny was trying to be. In fact i'm just gonna pretend destiny whatever doesn't exist
Hey Eric, thank you so much for this video. Ever since the movie came out, I really wanted to hear your opinion to the point where I didn't go see it. Again, thank you for making this video.🙏
Good thing Star Wars Legends is a good back up universe for the Star Wars franchise than Disney’s continuity, which if Disney was competent they would just decanonize the latter and make animated film adaptations out of the Expanded Universe novels and video games. Unfortunately, unless Lucasfilm is sold back to George Lucas or to another company, Disney won’t be the decision makers for that potential redo. Universal Pictures I think could do Star Wars and Marvel justice. Because I’m done giving Disney chances. Shrek: BYE BYE!!!! See you later!
Hi Eric, I've seen some of your videos on Star Wars, particularly the ones created by Disney, but I want to ask; what's your opinion on Star Wars Legends?
i honestly felt the same way when i saw Dead Reckoning because at least in that movie it made sense why they were at odds whereas with Helena it comes off as being a dick for no reason
I honestly never understood the hate for Crystal skull, especially now with dial of destiny. At least it respects Indy compared to that complete piece of shit.
To be honest though, I would not blame Dewey for being depressed. The guy has been stabbed SO MANY TIMES and CRIPPLED SO MANY TIMES. Like jesus, I’m surprised they decided to kill him on the 2022 movie and not the previous so many other times when it seems like he died!
I thought it was ok. It had cool moments but I thought it was the least memorable and felt very disposable. I am very impressed by what they were able to do with the budget. As it was intended to be a streaming movie before they decided to send it to theatres.
@@EricCarter12 cool. Would you do a versus with it and the 2013 reboot? Or do you think you don’t have time nor the interest to make it. I’d watch it, but I’ll understand if you can’t.
@@ParkerCS2 I think the time has passed to do a versus video with that movie. That's not to say I won't ever do it. But right now it's not on my list of priorities. I'm also not passionate about the new movie either to break down and go into great detail about it. I'm also working on other videos right now so I don't have time to make it.
Honestly, this is hard. They're both mid-movies that have their ups and downs. I guess Crystal Skull is better but that's not saying much. They're both like 5 or 6 out of 10 movies.
No problem buddy. 😊 I only saw the first episode. And I found it so boring it was unbelievable. I usually love hearing about politics in Star Wars. Most specifically with The Clone Wars, Rebels and The Bad Batch. Which is why I was so disappointed to find that it was done in a very dry and boring way in Andor. I do intend to continue watching it at some point. But not right now. What did you think of it?
I did always enjoy Crystal Skull. Even though not as much perhaps as the OG movies, I think it served as a great sendoff to a beloved character finding his happy ever after in the end of this movie. The pacing was good, the action was great, the story fine and I think Mutt and Indy had real chemistry and worked great together. They both had their skills to bring to the table and really added to one another. Of course the movie has some "meh"-things in it. The fridge nuking scene is just too much of a stretch even compared to other impossible stunts in Indiana Jones. The scene with Mutt and the monkeys was... certainly an interesting choice. Not a good one tho in my eyes. The point of the scene was to establish Mutts character growth that was hinted towards before. But in my opinion, they should've perhaps let him steal a motorcycle from the russians to catch up to the rest and make his dramatic hero entry that way. It would serve the same purpose, while also relying on assets we know he is familiar and skilled with. While Spalko had the upper hand on him when they had their sword fight, where she was basically just toying with him, now she would be outmatched by Mutts skills as a driver on his bike. However both of these scenes that I didn't necessarily enjoy weren't that bad that they ruined the movie for me. What is perhaps more unfotunate, I don't feel like the crystal skull and the interdimensional beings were explained enough. I understand that Indiana Jones never did too much to explain the artefacts, but here I think it would've been great to do so. Most of the audience is familiar with the "arc of the covenant" (and it is also pretty well established in the movie early on) or the holy grail, so explaining those further isnt necessary to do. The Sakkara Stones in temple of Doom are explained enough with "those are five magic stones, that the cult believes can help them to bring about world dominance" as they serve merely to teach Indy some character development in the movie and after that are sidelined in favor of the slave freeing. A great choice if I might say so. WIth the crystal skull things are more complicated as it is a more obscure unknown artefact that simply needs explaination to work. I think Kingdom of the Crystal Skull does enough to give a rough outline of the meaning for these skulls, but more insight would've been highly appreciated. I also thought that Irina Spalko had a good motivation for a villain, as she wanted to use the crystall skull and its powers as a weapon of psychic warfare against the united states to give the soviets the edge in the cold war. Given that at the time one of the biggest fears in Amerika was that the soviet philosophy would take a hold in the minds of the americans that was a great play on that fear. Combining it with Aliens from the B-movies often associated with the 60s, I think this made for a senseable and compelling take on the time period the movie is set in. NOW... Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny... I'm sorry, but that one was hard to watch. They fell back on so many "modern tropes" as you call it. They don't seem to realize that you can bring in new characters, especially in Indiana Jones, without having them compromise or deminish the role of the MAIN CHARACTER WHICH IS AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE INDIANA JONES, YOU KNOW, THE GUY FROM THE TITLE OF THE MOVIE. The problem is that Helena and Indy don't seem to have any chemistry, she doesn't care about him or his life and she is constantly being a jerk towards him. Like how many "haha your old"-jokes did this movie need? I'd argue none at all, but here we are. I know Mutt also was like that in the beginning, but once he saw how capable Indy was both intelectually and physically, he was like "Oh shit thats so cool". Helena is also very very unlikable from her first scenes. She tricks Indy into giving her an artefact and then leaves him to be killed. Kinda makes Dr. Voller look like a secondary villain to be honest. A trend that even continues to the end of the movie, when she knocks out an 80 year old man... That could've very well been a deadly punch. This also wasn't a slap like Marion would give him because he did something dumb again, that was a full on knockout. But yeah, the movie feels more like Indy is being tagged along, because they need him to bring someone to watch the movie. They should've named it "Helena Shaw and the Dial of Destiny (Indiana Jones will also be there, but don't expect something from him. Also he is old, haha, how funny.)". I don't like the old hermit trope... people can also age with dignity. It is possible. Shame on you for that one Disney.
If Wes Craven was still around and saw what Radio Silence and Paramount did to his Scream franchise with those 2 non canon woke garbage movies, no doubt he would slap the hell out of his idiotic estate!
I would love Eric Carter to do a versus video for either Evil Dead (2013) VERSUS Evil Dead Rise (2023) or Wes Craven’s New Nightmare (1994) VERSUS A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010 remake)! 😍
Have you considered a VS video between the original 3 Indiana Jones films? Personally, I believe The Last Crusade is the best, but I'm curious what most people think.
35:10 I know this is a show, but Star Trek: Picard did the same thing to it's titular character in it's first season and no one liked that either. But when Season 3 came out, Picard is treated with more respect and in the last 2 episodes he, the rest of the Next Gen crew and even the Enterprise D herself have to save the galaxy from the Borg who have assimilated the younger members. The show started off by humiliating it's older male lead while putting the newer characters on a pedestal, but it ends with the younger characters getting villainized and Picard and the rest of the old guard save the day and live. If this doesn't show that the tide is turning, I don't know what does.
@@EricCarter12 Glad to hear. What are your overall thoughts on Picard Season 3 and it's depictions of it's old and new characters and it's decision to bring the Enterprise D herself back after her pathetic send off in the movie Star Trek: Generations?
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn I haven't seen the third Season yet. But people who I trust including members of my family have told me that the show is much better. So I'm definitely going to watch it soon once I have some free time.
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn I don't think so. I'll probably watch it on my own. I do like to watch certain shows by myself. Not everything has to be documented. 😊
I personally don't know why people hate the fourth Indiana Jones film. I mean people obsess over CGI versus practical, but honestly it's all fake and really doesn't bother me, unless it's like, the Flash CGI levels of bad. Now I hadn't seen any Indiana Jones films until I was in my early twenties. I marathoned all 4 of them and enjoyed each one equally. As for the "bad" of Crystal Skull, the second film had crazy ritual pulling hearts out of people while they're still alive after and one of them had skydiving with an inflatable raft. Each film had really stupid ridiculous things in them that fans just over look.
Dial of Destiny makes Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like a great movie in comparison. People can still hate Crystal Skull all they want. Yet Dial of Destiny is aggressively mediocre/bad.
I think Scream at this point could benefit from alternate timelines similar to Halloween if done right. Like a Scream 1996 requel that ignores 2-6 that has a reunion with Sidney, Dewey, Randy, and Gale. I know the requel thing is over done, but trust me the requel thing can be done right under good filmmakers. By the way, Scream (2022) is NOT a requel. A requel usually ignores certain films in a long running franchise like H20 ignoring 4-6 or 2018 only considering 1978’s Halloween canon in its continuity.
Dewey Riley was sacrificed on the alter of woke! Eric Carter I think has the right to mention him along with every other character he put in this video! I would also mention Professor X and Mr Fantastic in Doc Strange MoM, Michael Myers in Halloween Ends, and Jaime Lannister in GoT in S8 are other examples of the emasculation of legacy male characters.
Though it's true the Disney Sequels gave people new appreciation for the Prequels, let's not pretend that was the majority of fans, because in reality, the real majority of us stayed fans of the Prequels and grew up in a time where there was no internet, so as the web became more common, we gained our voice to say the Prequels rule along side the OT.
Hey Eric if Universal decided to buy marvel back in 2009 then we would have dark and R rated superhero movies and it would be amazing and more creative unlike Disney that just likes to play it safe and uses the same formula for their movies all the time, so do you agree on this because you said that you like superhero movies that are more serious and not too jokey and lighthearted.
Your right I was just mentioning this if it actually happen in order to get great marvel movies, after avengers endgame I don’t usually watch the recent MCU movies due to how generic they are and Disney really needs to step up their game and take risk with their MCU movies and give us something special, I hope they don’t screw up Deadpool 3 and keep the movie rated R.
This is why I switch to DC because even thought their movies can hit and miss but at least they give the directors full creative control and they have movies with a hard PG-13 rating and some R rated movies and that’s what makes DC special, I just hope that James Gunns DCU slate goes well because he has learned something from his previous movies and he is going to give us something different that is not related to marvel.
@ParkerCS2 I know right and by the way, Their are DC movies that use CGI that looked finish and took its time to make it look good and others that use a lot of practical effect which is creative and fantastic unlike marvel because they use too much CGI that looks unfinished and downgrade that it’s just the same old thing we get all the time and people are starting to get tired of it and they expect an MCU movie to be different but marvel doesn’t seem to care anymore.
I’ma sit back and enjoy my popcorn on how much Disney has died after 1 century. The failures of box offices and poor reviews should’ve said something to them! But they have earplugs on when reviews and box offices happen!
Everything about the 5th Indy movie is an insult. The sound design is generic, they don't even use Ben Burtt's punch sounds, except for a few times. And I feel like the opening scene...even though it was decent, it was the only time Indiana Jones felt like *Indiana Jones.* It's like it exists to be a tease for the fans. Like they were saying: "oh you want this Indy? Too bad. This ain't his movie! It's Helena Shaw's movie!" That's what it felt like to me. I am sick of male characters being made fun of and humiliated constantly in modern films. And on rare occasions, even classic female characters are treated like shit. Look at how Sarah Connor was treated in Terminator dark fate. She is verbally bashed, insulted and threatened by Grace the whole film. But still, I hated this film so much that I refuse to buy this on home release. When I heard Phoebe Waller Bridge was announced to be in the film, instead of Short Round, instant turn off. That was my first sign that this wasn't even worth seeing in theaters. Kingdom of the crystal skull is a far superior send-off. And if they wanted to make another Indy film, then they should have done it years ago. The dial by the way, isn't interesting. Its just a glorified compass. Nothing more. It sucks that Indiana Jones went out on a whimper like this.
Another thing that they did with Indiana that ruined his character was that, when he was being pursued by the bad guys in the University he knocked over how many historical materials to try and knock them down Indiana was someone who’d always claim that a historical object belongs in a Museum yet destroys them to knock down the villains? One good thing they did for Indiana was have him go through the streets of that one country they went to in the car chase through random little side streets and was able to figure out exactly where he knew to go and appeared right behind the villains car
Ehh to be perfectly honest, Dewey is not a good example for male character deconstruction. Dewey was meant to die in the second film and has always gotten the crap kicked out of him. Plus he wasn’t deconstructed, they used the actors real life relationship with gales actress as inspiration for his story in Scream five. Plus he went out on his terms as a hero. He’s also a side character technically speaking. The main character in the first four films is Sidney Prescot
Sidney, Dewey and Gale are the original trio. I would have been fine if he died protecting Gale or something. But to have him survive Ghostface for 4 movies, and then have him get done in for getting distracted by his phone was just insulting. They killed him off like he was a nobody. And that was such a waste. A character death like his should have been a tear jerker and it should MEAN something. But instead he died like any other extra. That's what I found to be disrespectful.
@@EricCarter12 Dewey has always been the punching bag of the scream franchise and has gotten his ass kicked in demoralizing ways in every movie he’s in. He was a doofus in Scream 1, gets overpowered by Mrs. Loomis in scream 2, gets instantly knocked out by the butt end of Roman’s knife in scream 3 in literally the stupidest scene in the entire franchise, overpowered and knocked out by Jill with a bed pan in scream 4, and finally killed in scream 5. What the hell are you talking about? Besides Dewey did go out in a poetic way. He couldn’t save his younger sister in the first and he goes out saving the main character’s younger sister. There was nothing disrespectful about it at all. He was part of the trio, yes, but he was not the main character. Sidney was. The most iconic character other than Sidney is Ghostface himself. Scream 5 and 6 were successful and kept the spirit of what scream is. Scream has always been a meta commentary on horror tropes and movie cliches. Dewey is a bad example to use as a icon when most die hard scream fans will agree that Dewey should’ve died earlier in the series. The only thing that would’ve been disrespectful in scream 5 is if they killed Sidney off. The series in the first four movies is about Sidney, not Dewey. Dewey is the punching bag. He gets his ass kicked in every movie he’s in and nothing can change that fact.
@@EricCarter12 Another thing: Dewey surviving was becoming a cliché in of itself. Scream has always made fun of cliches and tries to break certain ones. Dewey dying does have weight to it because it comes more out of nowhere and is genuinely shocking. It’s also probably the best looking kill in the franchise. Also Dewey shouldn’t be roped into this video because he wasn’t being killed to be replaced. Indy is clearly being replaced by Phoebe Waller bridge. Luke and Han were being replaced by Rey. Dewey is in a horror series. You should always expect any character to die in a horror movie in any way possible. Also scream is from an entirely different studio and company. This video was about the deconstruction of Indiana Jones and what Disney keeps doing to its legacy characters. I agree with everything else in this video, I just don’t agree with using Dewey as an example. Luke, Han and Indiana Jones are action adventure heroes. Dewey is a naive goofball in a horror series that is more grounded in reality than Star Wars and Indiana Jones. I just don’t think he works as an example for what you were talking about in the video. I view Dewey very differently from Indy and Luke. I totally buy him getting distracted by his phone because that’s what his character basically is. Again I agree with just about everything else in this video relating to Indiana Jones and lucasfilm/Disney. I’m someone who loves crystal skull. Not as much as the other three but I think it’s a solid film. And everything you said in support of Crystal Skull I agreed with. I just think Dewey is a bad example with consideration to the type of series he’s from
Just discovered this review. Awesome work assembling it! Now, The Great Circle has become my fifth movie in the series. The creators really did their homework; the characters, atmosphere, story, and Indy; it's all there.
@@gemaferro Thanks buddy! It's not easy making these versus videos so I'm glad you enjoyed it! I haven't played The Great Circle yet but will definitely play it eventually. Feel free to subscribe as I would love to have you as a member of the channel!
18:49 I dont think recssting would have worked like it did in the Rocky universe. With the time between rocky 5 and 6, his son jumped from childhood to adulthood, so recasting would be easier and more passable. Mutt was already in about young adulthood.
I will give you a fun fact Cate blanchett it's the same actress who played the Lady galadriel in The Lord of the rings movies and I also includes The Hobbit movies.
Wow Eric thank you for putting my name up at the end of the video I feel so inspired right now, you are definitely my favorite and best UA-camr ever that I supported, I really appreciate it so much😃👍
Hey Eric, What about Micheal Keaton Batman when you gave the Rocky Balboa thing? I really wish there was a 3rd Batman Burton movie. The hermit trope isn't bad. it's the way it's depicted. Buzz is still young in the Lightyear movie. it's a future version of himself similar to Dark Flash.
Great vid eric! I agree and i have a question hopefully you answer my question what do you think of cw flash's all seasons 1-5 were all you watched right plz answer my question
I get people keep dragging on Rey but at least she was likable like she was kind nice to the old characters respected han and Luke shit she looked up to Luke yes she was overpowered but at least she was likable and not like this character. Not defending the sequels (expect force awakens that’s a good film) but Rey at least was interesting until they screwed it up in last Jedi
Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls had the perfect ending to the Indiana Jones Franchise. I think Indiana Jones 5 may have been so much better if it came out three or four years after the Crystal Skulls came out. Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny had a awesome start,after depressing movie!
I actually like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Yeah, it's not perfect, but it at least has some memorable moments like the communist motorcycle chase around the college campus, the giant killer ants, the sandpit scene where Mutt has to rescue Indy with a snake, and of course, the nuclear bomb scene.
People can say what they want about Crystal Skull (I enjoyed it for what it was), at least Indy still felt like Indy and the ending when he takes his hat back from his son was gold. Also, I never had a problem with the idea of aliens being in the Indiana Jones universe. If you're going to have an ark that melts your face, or the fountain of youth, you might as well have aliens in there at that point. The filmmakers at least tried to make it fit within the universe. It's also not like there haven't been theories about aliens helping to build our civilization or being worshipped as gods. You could've easily called Crystal Skull "Indiana Jones and The Chariots of The Gods" (a little nod to Erich von Däniken's novel and claims). I also give the film leeway because I've always been interested in Von Daniken's claims, primarily since I first got into the Stargate franchise (which also dealt with a crystal skull in one episode). Also, nice to see you on here, Hewy. I really enjoyed your content back in the "fellow in the coat" days.
And while the scene with Marion at the end of Dial was nice, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull did Marion much more justice
It’s a good movie. I think most of the hatred of the film comes from group think. Most of the stupid things that people complain about in crystal skull are present in the previous movies. They just come off better because the original trilogy are better shot, edited, directed, and they can just be themselves. CS has to compete with 3 excellent films. If you think that aliens are a worldbreaking or shark jumping, you’re making up rules. It totally makes sense, the concept of ancient aliens is a very well explored concept in fiction, and it could be better done is CS, but it’s serviceable IMO. I hear nobody actually complain about HOW they did it, only that they did it. It’s infuriating.
@@thevorst6119 Agree on all points. Selective outrage and making up rules about what a franchise should/shouldn't do just so you have something to be mad about drives me nuts.
i renember when you and jaimetud talked about the movie and you said:screw the haters
Basically hit the nail on the head for why I hate Indy 5. The best part of dial is that it’s getting people to reevaluate Crystal skull and realize it’s not actually a half bad movie
@Julianjulesr1361Dial sucks. Crystal Skull is better.
@@dboygamer8184neither are good
@Julianjulesr1361but compared to indy 5?
@@jarrodedson5441 crystal skull gave indy a happy family.
@Julianjulesr1361 brooo Indy 5 had a ton of problems did you not see the video. The only thing good was the 1944 prologue. Everything in 1969 was plain whack.
Kingdom of the Crystal skull wasn’t amazing, but I really like the ending of that movie
Yep. Dial of Destiny is non canon!
I liked the ending as well but I didn’t like that Mac died
Say whatever you want about the movie Kingdom of The Crystal Skull & you can hold the “Nuking The Fridge” or “Monkey Swinging Scene” all day long but it at least was both appropriate to the era and seemed a bit more of what actually would have if he were in his 60s. Also while I don’t consider Indie & Mutt as father & son…but as a Mentor to Mentee dynamic was actually excellently.
@@Patrickmee123 I didn't like Mac at all
I actually really love the movie I got to see it when I was a kid in theaters
DOD erased everything that ended CS with a happy ending! Just imagine if the movie had started out with an adult Short Round, who still wears his baseball cap AND who himself was now an archaeologist! He always saw Indy as a father figure and perhaps he felt inspired by him. He finds something mysterious and decides to seek out Indy after losing contact for the past 20 years. Indy is now head of the university and has become somewhat wealthy and famous after writing several books about his adventures over the years, which would have been later adapted into the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Him and Marion are thriving and Mutt has become much more mature with him and Indy on good terms now. Maybe he comes along for the ride? Anyway, Shorty and Indy have a very happy reunion and he manages to convince Indy into one last adventure after he privately confides to him that hes been thinking of retirement. Maybe Mutt becoming a father and his age be a motivator? They go on an adventure together and they have a touching moment in the middle. The movie ends with Indy's retirement and him taking his fedora off and putting it on Shorty's head, as a symbol of passing the torch to a younger generation. Similar to the beginning of The Last Crusade. NOW THAT would have been a trihumph! I would have loved it! It would have been so easy! What do you think?
I like it! Adult Short Round would've been an infinitely more likable and endearing companion than Horrible Shrew.
Sounds magnificent, wanna partner up some day and make a great adventure movie with a good but reasonable budget for a blockbuster?😄
I love Short Round and this idea overall but anyone getting the fedora after Indy is gonna feel unearned to me NGL, KOTC seemed to think Mutt was well-written and a worthy successor but even it had Indy take the hat from him at the last second.
This would’ve been much better than what we got. Plus it must’ve been possible considering short rounds actor returned to films after decades to be in everything everywhere aao. He probably would’ve been so down to reprise his role. Missed opportunity 😢. phoebe waller bitch was just so shoehorned into this film…..oh yeah, that friend we’ve never heard of? he has a daughter and THATS the main character now….fuck off LOL.
What would the plot be.
Ohhhh in Africa with the tribe with blood and the gods. Another maguffin
If we’re being honest, Disney had this coming. For so many years, fans have been trying to get them to understand that they didn’t like the movie or show that was released due to poor ratings, quality and writing. And people have been asking Disney to focus on telling an original story and making sure that they are being respectful to the fans of a beloved franchise. But instead, what did Disney do? They accused the people who were criticizing the movies and shows of being racist, sexist, Russian bots and so much more.
Disney deserves it
To me, no sentence sums up the problem with modern Hollywood than what Eric inferred: "This movie cost $300 million, and yet I can barely remember anything about it. Not because too much happens and you get lost in it, but because it felt like practically nothing happened."
By contrast, there was a $5 million Studio film (not even Indi) from 2018 called "Upgrade" -- It was smartly written, featured some intense twists, the acting was great, the cinematography was solid and the editing was great, and even just after my first viewing of the movie, I was able to have full conversations with my film friends about why I loved it, and this was a Studio film that cost only 1/60th of Indy 5!
This comparison also illustrates an interesting Older vs Newer dynamic: Older movies were legitimate entertainment, just sometimes badly (or, frankly, horribly) done, whereas a lot of modern movies feel like mere content, like they're just hoping people will like it enough to buy the BluRay and then tell their friends "Oh yeah - that movie was pretty cool."
And that’s why Upgrade ended up runner-up as Eric’s favorite movie of 2018.
@@kotm2021 Oh did it? I actually didn't realize he ever mentioned it!
I didn't like Crystal Skull as a kid, and thought the inclusion of aliens was too far out there for me, but after 15 years, I finally gave the film a re-watch. One where I had a fresh mindset and decided to give it another chance, and I gotta say, I really enjoyed it much more now, and I don't mind the inclusion of aliens here since it makes sense to use them given when the movie is set. My only issue with the aliens is when we actually see the alien at the end after all the skulls come together, and this is because the first movies, namely Raiders and Temple, wisely chose to not actually show the main supernatural forces, in their case God and Shiva, and I think that the final scene where Spalko is killed would have been better if we didn't see it, or at least not a full glimpse of it. That said, I haven't seen DoD yet, and I'm glad I haven't
Lol I find it weird you differentiated God and Lord Shiva...Shiva is God to over a billion people on this planet so yeah
To be honest, Modern Disney deserved their downfall
Modern Disney deserves all of its misery
Modern Disney needs to fall
100% agree with this. Their Golden Era has passed and they don't have any intention of going back to it.
@@Terrifyger 👍💯💯. This is their New Dark age.
Definitely!
Dial of Dysentery makes Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like a masterpiece. Thing is that there are flaws with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. But the same sense of adventure was there. Dial of Destiny is yet another half assed deconstruction of a beloved hero. And Dial undoes one of the best parts of Kingdom...Indy's marriage to Marion. Then there is the great Poob in the room and that is that Phoebe Waller Bridge's Helena Shaw was so insufferable. You hit the nail on the head regarding the "failed male character" trope. Han Solo, Luke, Indy...all of them follow a similar trajectory. Jeremy Jahns pointed this out too saying if you tried this kind of copy/paste in school the teacher would tell you that you couldn't do that and tell you to do it over.
Diarrhoea of Destiny
No
Just NO
I Actually like Crystal Skull as despite it’s Flaws there was Soul, Charm, Likability, and Heart from the Original Trilogy, Dial of Destiny felt like a Mean Spirited Soulless Cash Grab that’s a Bastardization to what Makes Indiana Jones so Special but because Modern Lucasfilm and Kennedy’s Sick Agenda to Feminism in my Mind that Boring and Forgettable Film Doesn’t Exist and isn’t Canon like the Sequel Trilogy.
Me too! Definitely everything under Disney is not canon!
With James Mangold on the wheel I had hope cause he had already done a send off with Logan and I loved it, but with Indy 5 it was obvious that KK demanded this.
The Indiana Jones trilogy is still terrific to this day! The other two films don't count to me, and that's perfectly fine.
I feel the same
I agree
I never understood the hate for Kingdom of Crystal Skull. It's just as great as the original trilogy, although The Last Crusade remains the best Indiana Jones movie. As for Dial of Destiny, I enjoyed parts of the movie, the 1944 and the 1952 flashbacks, New York scenes, Antonio Banderas, Indy talking about Mutt's death (Harrison Ford acted greatly in this scene) and the ending with Marion was well acted. Still, the movie was an unnecessary addition to the franchise. I don't mind seeing an older Indiana Jones, but why making him miserable? And like how it was told the video, why not make it a story about a father and a son? Just recast Mutt, put him as a CIA agent, who asks Indy help and Indy has a final adventure and make amends with his son and could also meet his grandchild, like what happened with Rocky in Creed 2.
Sa e
Same
I never had any issues with KotCS. In fact, I enjoyed the ending more than the ending of Last Crusade. Indy finally marrying the love of his life and settling down. I liked it!
Me too!
I myself found CRYSTAL SKULL mostly enjoyable.
The only time I can think of where a female legacy character gets the same treatment as all those male ones you mentioned is Laurie Strode in Halloween 2018 since she’s twice divorced and not on good terms with her daughter’s family so it just shows how much male characters are being so mistreated
Couldn’t agree more. H20 is a better requel to Halloween 1978. However, 2018 wasn’t god awful. But at the same time it hasn’t aged well thanks to Kills and Ends. Lol
The Exorcist Believer is yet another failure for DGG, and I think he’s finished as a horror director. Him over spending 400 million for the IP license alone proves he doesn’t need to ruin more legacy Horror franchises.
There’s also Leia…. But then they “made up for it” in Kenobi anyway.
@@austinreed7343 🫏🫏🫏🫏 yeah.
The difference, is that Laurie does make sense for that kind of story, since many people with PTSD do get seperated and strained from their families, so I personally never minded it with her. Indiana Jones just doesn't fit that story.
Helena hit a child repeatedly with her car door….
You HIT a child with your car door…. REPEATEDLY? How was ANYONE supposed to like this character? Seriously.
When did she?
She clearly said it with a hint of sarcasm. Pay attention next time
Crystal skull does resolve those issues actually…Indy becomes associate dean of the school as shown by the letters scene before the wedding and for the fbi well they were concerned of his communist ties but after the events of the film it’s pretty obvious they know Indy is not a red
Indiana Jones 5 should’ve had Indy and shortround, Sala and Marion and maybe other returning characters going on the adventure and even if it was nostalgia bate, at least then it would’ve been entertaining and a great final chapter with everything culminating in one final film
Mutt
People can say what they want about Crystal Skull (I enjoyed it for what it was), at least Indy still felt like Indy and the ending when he takes his hat back from his son was gold. Also, I never had a problem with the idea of aliens being in the Indiana Jones universe. If you're going to have an ark that melts your face, or the fountain of youth, you might as well have aliens in there at that point. The filmmakers at least tried to make it fit within the universe. It's also not like there haven't been theories about aliens helping to build our civilization or being worshipped as gods. You could've easily called Crystal Skull "Indiana Jones and The Chariots of The Gods" (a little nod to Erich von Däniken's novel and claims). I also give the film leeway because I've always been interested in Von Daniken's claims, primarily since I first got into the Stargate franchise (which also dealt with a crystal skull in one episode).
THANK YOU! I've been telling this to Crystal Skull naysayers since 2008. These movies had always been campy b side retro style stories with the fantastical mixed with history
For Halloween, you should do
The Haunted Mansion (2003) vs. Haunted Mansion (2023)
It ended at Last Crusade.
Facts
No, it ended at Dial of Destiny. Just because you pretend something doesn't exist doesn't mean it's erased from history
@@Gage_Brumley Dial Of Destiny sucked and it deserves to be forgotten to the sands of time.
Crystal Skull
Suggestion: Would you ever consider doing a Mission Impossible versus video? Maybe Dead Reckoning vs Ghost Protocol? Or Fallout vs Ghost Protocol?
This is an honest question: how the hell is Kennedy still around??
I swear she's like a cockroach, she won't go away.
Her talent (her connections)
She probably bribed everyone in charge of Disney
@@LegiyonEhellouther charisma & influence 👎
Disney has officially compeletly destroyed Indiana Jones 😂
Disney destroyed Lucasfilm
You want a better Disney Indiana Jones film, go watch DuckTales, The Movie.
Dial of Destiny was great, idk what you're talking about
@@Gage_Brumley how was it grrat
It was already destroyed by the previous film.
“Elemental” actually became a box office success once it started showing in other countries.
That’s why he said that it barely broke even
@@zillauniverse7208He didn’t say that, he said “A Pixar movie that just broke even.”
@@JaySpiderPop30Regardless, is it a good movie?
Great comparison video.
I actually liked Kingdom of the Crystal Skull even at release. I was a huge Shia fan due to Even Stevens, so i didn't find him annoying. The CGI was abit much but i liked that the movie respected Indiana Jones as a character. The wedding ending was a great finale for the series.
This Dial of Destiny was unnecessary to begin with, so i'm sadly not surprised to hear how terrible it is. I also hate that they disrspected Mutt Williams by killing him off screen. :(
Great versus video, Eric. Since Halloween is around the corner, have you thought about doing a versus video with horror films like Saw X vs Saw VI or Final Destination vs Saw or even Child's Play vs M3GAN?
Child’s Play vs M3GAN sounds amazing
Reminder that the plot of "Dial of Destiny" is Indiana Jones has to save Hitler from being assassinated.
🤣 You’re right! 💯
Okay I’m just gonna ask this so I don’t have to ask it again in the future:
How would you describe a perfect female lead in movies???
As in what?
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme you know what I’m asking him, I just want to know how he would define a good female lead character in movies!
@@twilightanimate9893 oh
Ripley from aliens
@@twilightanimate9893Alita
Fuck it i liked crystal skull kinda love it (nostalgia talking on that last bit) But I don't like it as much as the first 3 and I can at least say with full confidence I'll take it over whatever dial of destiny was trying to be.
In fact i'm just gonna pretend destiny whatever doesn't exist
13:01 self sufficient , HOW DID THIS END UP IN AN INDIANA JONES MOVIE
Kathleen Kennedy and Kevin Feige both need to get fired!
Agreed, specifically Kathleen Kennedy
Indiana Jones 5 was such a mess, the director clearly had no idea what he was doing
Hey Eric, thank you so much for this video. Ever since the movie came out, I really wanted to hear your opinion to the point where I didn't go see it. Again, thank you for making this video.🙏
Eric Carter I’ve missed lately! Glad he’s back making videos!
Thanks buddy! 😊
@@EricCarter12same
Good thing Star Wars Legends is a good back up universe for the Star Wars franchise than Disney’s continuity, which if Disney was competent they would just decanonize the latter and make animated film adaptations out of the Expanded Universe novels and video games. Unfortunately, unless Lucasfilm is sold back to George Lucas or to another company, Disney won’t be the decision makers for that potential redo. Universal Pictures I think could do Star Wars and Marvel justice. Because I’m done giving Disney chances.
Shrek: BYE BYE!!!! See you later!
Hi Eric, I've seen some of your videos on Star Wars, particularly the ones created by Disney, but I want to ask; what's your opinion on Star Wars Legends?
Here’s my opinion: It’s my preferred universe over Disney’s continuity! Disney Star Wars is NOT CANON!
i honestly felt the same way when i saw Dead Reckoning because at least in that movie it made sense why they were at odds whereas with Helena it comes off as being a dick for no reason
I honestly never understood the hate for Crystal skull, especially now with dial of destiny. At least it respects Indy compared to that complete piece of shit.
I agree
To be honest though, I would not blame Dewey for being depressed. The guy has been stabbed SO MANY TIMES and CRIPPLED SO MANY TIMES. Like jesus, I’m surprised they decided to kill him on the 2022 movie and not the previous so many other times when it seems like he died!
Despicable Me VS Megamind!
Terminator VS Robocop!
Hey Eric Carter! Thoughts on Evil Dead Rise?
I thought it was ok. It had cool moments but I thought it was the least memorable and felt very disposable.
I am very impressed by what they were able to do with the budget. As it was intended to be a streaming movie before they decided to send it to theatres.
@@EricCarter12 cool. Would you do a versus with it and the 2013 reboot? Or do you think you don’t have time nor the interest to make it. I’d watch it, but I’ll understand if you can’t.
@@ParkerCS2 I think the time has passed to do a versus video with that movie. That's not to say I won't ever do it. But right now it's not on my list of priorities.
I'm also not passionate about the new movie either to break down and go into great detail about it.
I'm also working on other videos right now so I don't have time to make it.
@@EricCarter12 ok fair enough. 👍👍
@@EricCarter12hi eric
8:13 Your Sean Connery impression. 🤣
Man since 2008 I found Crystal Skull to be so much fun to watch.
Honestly, this is hard. They're both mid-movies that have their ups and downs. I guess Crystal Skull is better but that's not saying much. They're both like 5 or 6 out of 10 movies.
Can you please do a VS video on Disney's 2022 Pinocchio and Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio? I'd love to hear your take.
Hello, Eric. Thanks for the video.
By the way, what's your opinion on the Andor tv series?
No problem buddy. 😊 I only saw the first episode. And I found it so boring it was unbelievable. I usually love hearing about politics in Star Wars. Most specifically with The Clone Wars, Rebels and The Bad Batch.
Which is why I was so disappointed to find that it was done in a very dry and boring way in Andor.
I do intend to continue watching it at some point. But not right now.
What did you think of it?
I did always enjoy Crystal Skull. Even though not as much perhaps as the OG movies, I think it served as a great sendoff to a beloved character finding his happy ever after in the end of this movie. The pacing was good, the action was great, the story fine and I think Mutt and Indy had real chemistry and worked great together. They both had their skills to bring to the table and really added to one another.
Of course the movie has some "meh"-things in it. The fridge nuking scene is just too much of a stretch even compared to other impossible stunts in Indiana Jones. The scene with Mutt and the monkeys was... certainly an interesting choice. Not a good one tho in my eyes. The point of the scene was to establish Mutts character growth that was hinted towards before. But in my opinion, they should've perhaps let him steal a motorcycle from the russians to catch up to the rest and make his dramatic hero entry that way. It would serve the same purpose, while also relying on assets we know he is familiar and skilled with. While Spalko had the upper hand on him when they had their sword fight, where she was basically just toying with him, now she would be outmatched by Mutts skills as a driver on his bike. However both of these scenes that I didn't necessarily enjoy weren't that bad that they ruined the movie for me.
What is perhaps more unfotunate, I don't feel like the crystal skull and the interdimensional beings were explained enough. I understand that Indiana Jones never did too much to explain the artefacts, but here I think it would've been great to do so. Most of the audience is familiar with the "arc of the covenant" (and it is also pretty well established in the movie early on) or the holy grail, so explaining those further isnt necessary to do. The Sakkara Stones in temple of Doom are explained enough with "those are five magic stones, that the cult believes can help them to bring about world dominance" as they serve merely to teach Indy some character development in the movie and after that are sidelined in favor of the slave freeing. A great choice if I might say so. WIth the crystal skull things are more complicated as it is a more obscure unknown artefact that simply needs explaination to work. I think Kingdom of the Crystal Skull does enough to give a rough outline of the meaning for these skulls, but more insight would've been highly appreciated.
I also thought that Irina Spalko had a good motivation for a villain, as she wanted to use the crystall skull and its powers as a weapon of psychic warfare against the united states to give the soviets the edge in the cold war. Given that at the time one of the biggest fears in Amerika was that the soviet philosophy would take a hold in the minds of the americans that was a great play on that fear. Combining it with Aliens from the B-movies often associated with the 60s, I think this made for a senseable and compelling take on the time period the movie is set in.
NOW... Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny... I'm sorry, but that one was hard to watch. They fell back on so many "modern tropes" as you call it. They don't seem to realize that you can bring in new characters, especially in Indiana Jones, without having them compromise or deminish the role of the MAIN CHARACTER WHICH IS AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE INDIANA JONES, YOU KNOW, THE GUY FROM THE TITLE OF THE MOVIE. The problem is that Helena and Indy don't seem to have any chemistry, she doesn't care about him or his life and she is constantly being a jerk towards him. Like how many "haha your old"-jokes did this movie need? I'd argue none at all, but here we are. I know Mutt also was like that in the beginning, but once he saw how capable Indy was both intelectually and physically, he was like "Oh shit thats so cool". Helena is also very very unlikable from her first scenes. She tricks Indy into giving her an artefact and then leaves him to be killed. Kinda makes Dr. Voller look like a secondary villain to be honest. A trend that even continues to the end of the movie, when she knocks out an 80 year old man... That could've very well been a deadly punch. This also wasn't a slap like Marion would give him because he did something dumb again, that was a full on knockout. But yeah, the movie feels more like Indy is being tagged along, because they need him to bring someone to watch the movie. They should've named it "Helena Shaw and the Dial of Destiny (Indiana Jones will also be there, but don't expect something from him. Also he is old, haha, how funny.)". I don't like the old hermit trope... people can also age with dignity. It is possible. Shame on you for that one Disney.
If Wes Craven was still around and saw what Radio Silence and Paramount did to his Scream franchise with those 2 non canon woke garbage movies, no doubt he would slap the hell out of his idiotic estate!
Here's to Kathleen Kennedy getting the boot! 🍷
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@@natek4488 🥂
I would love Eric Carter to do a versus video for either Evil Dead (2013) VERSUS Evil Dead Rise (2023) or Wes Craven’s New Nightmare (1994) VERSUS A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010 remake)! 😍
It's unbelievable how long they took just have Harrison Ford age which they easily manipulated into being a grumpy old man side character
Have you considered a VS video between the original 3 Indiana Jones films? Personally, I believe The Last Crusade is the best, but I'm curious what most people think.
35:10 I know this is a show, but Star Trek: Picard did the same thing to it's titular character in it's first season and no one liked that either.
But when Season 3 came out, Picard is treated with more respect and in the last 2 episodes he, the rest of the Next Gen crew and even the Enterprise D herself have to save the galaxy from the Borg who have assimilated the younger members.
The show started off by humiliating it's older male lead while putting the newer characters on a pedestal, but it ends with the younger characters getting villainized and Picard and the rest of the old guard save the day and live.
If this doesn't show that the tide is turning, I don't know what does.
Yep, I agree. Hence I said "the first two Seasons".
@@EricCarter12 Glad to hear. What are your overall thoughts on Picard Season 3 and it's depictions of it's old and new characters and it's decision to bring the Enterprise D herself back after her pathetic send off in the movie Star Trek: Generations?
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn I haven't seen the third Season yet. But people who I trust including members of my family have told me that the show is much better.
So I'm definitely going to watch it soon once I have some free time.
@@EricCarter12 Do you plan to make a let's watch video about Picard Season 3?
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn I don't think so. I'll probably watch it on my own.
I do like to watch certain shows by myself. Not everything has to be documented. 😊
I personally don't know why people hate the fourth Indiana Jones film.
I mean people obsess over CGI versus practical, but honestly it's all fake and really doesn't bother me, unless it's like, the Flash CGI levels of bad.
Now I hadn't seen any Indiana Jones films until I was in my early twenties.
I marathoned all 4 of them and enjoyed each one equally.
As for the "bad" of Crystal Skull, the second film had crazy ritual pulling hearts out of people while they're still alive after and one of them had skydiving with an inflatable raft.
Each film had really stupid ridiculous things in them that fans just over look.
Dial of Destiny makes Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like a great movie in comparison. People can still hate Crystal Skull all they want. Yet Dial of Destiny is aggressively mediocre/bad.
Hey Eric carter, what's the music in the intro of the video called?
I think Scream at this point could benefit from alternate timelines similar to Halloween if done right. Like a Scream 1996 requel that ignores 2-6 that has a reunion with Sidney, Dewey, Randy, and Gale. I know the requel thing is over done, but trust me the requel thing can be done right under good filmmakers. By the way, Scream (2022) is NOT a requel. A requel usually ignores certain films in a long running franchise like H20 ignoring 4-6 or 2018 only considering 1978’s Halloween canon in its continuity.
Scream 4 is the proper ending to the Scream movies! 🍻 Wes Craven went out with a bang! God bless his soul! 😢
Btw, where would Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning place in your favorite movies of 2023 (as of now)?
He does
Hey Eric Carter! I look forward to your next videos! What should we expect soon?
Dewey Riley was sacrificed on the alter of woke! Eric Carter I think has the right to mention him along with every other character he put in this video! I would also mention Professor X and Mr Fantastic in Doc Strange MoM, Michael Myers in Halloween Ends, and Jaime Lannister in GoT in S8 are other examples of the emasculation of legacy male characters.
Though it's true the Disney Sequels gave people new appreciation for the Prequels, let's not pretend that was the majority of fans, because in reality, the real majority of us stayed fans of the Prequels and grew up in a time where there was no internet, so as the web became more common, we gained our voice to say the Prequels rule along side the OT.
There are only 4 Indiana Jones movies and the last one came out in 2008
Hey Eric if Universal decided to buy marvel back in 2009 then we would have dark and R rated superhero movies and it would be amazing and more creative unlike Disney that just likes to play it safe and uses the same formula for their movies all the time, so do you agree on this because you said that you like superhero movies that are more serious and not too jokey and lighthearted.
I have no faith in them owning Marvel anymore. PG-13 Blade and Punisher?! No thank you Disney!!!! We want R rated Punisher and Blade!
Your right I was just mentioning this if it actually happen in order to get great marvel movies, after avengers endgame I don’t usually watch the recent MCU movies due to how generic they are and Disney really needs to step up their game and take risk with their MCU movies and give us something special, I hope they don’t screw up Deadpool 3 and keep the movie rated R.
This is why I switch to DC because even thought their movies can hit and miss but at least they give the directors full creative control and they have movies with a hard PG-13 rating and some R rated movies and that’s what makes DC special, I just hope that James Gunns DCU slate goes well because he has learned something from his previous movies and he is going to give us something different that is not related to marvel.
@@jessenaveo exactly. Joker and The Batman good examples.
@ParkerCS2 I know right and by the way, Their are DC movies that use CGI that looked finish and took its time to make it look good and others that use a lot of practical effect which is creative and fantastic unlike marvel because they use too much CGI that looks unfinished and downgrade that it’s just the same old thing we get all the time and people are starting to get tired of it and they expect an MCU movie to be different but marvel doesn’t seem to care anymore.
Hey Eric I know this is random , but can you please do Zack Snyder’s Justice league vs infinity war????
I’m down with that 💯😍
If Eric Carter watches Scream: Legacy, I would love a versus video with it and Scream 2022. Let the battle commence! 😍🙏
I hope with dial of destiny they make a speilburg cut like they did with justice league
At the very end it's usually Disney's fault for both star wars and Indiana Jones franchises downfall for Lucasfilm
Could you compare between No Way Home and The Flash? Both deal with multiverses that's why
How would you rate the original 3 Indiana Jones films?
James Mangold might as well should just reach his hand into the bugs as punishment.
Hey Eric Carter! I highly recommend the Scream fan film Scream: Legacy! 😊
I am glad this video is up I hope you don’t get another copyright I want you to make money you are in the top 5 of my favorite UA-camr
Make doctor strange 2016 vs doctor strange in the multiverse of madness
Doctor strange 2016 vs spiderman no way home
Offical: Kathleen Kennedy has NOT been fired from Lucasfilm, she will remain as president until her contract ends in 2024.
Evil Dead 2013 VS. Evil Dead Rise versus video would be cool!
I’ma sit back and enjoy my popcorn on how much Disney has died after 1 century. The failures of box offices and poor reviews should’ve said something to them! But they have earplugs on when reviews and box offices happen!
Everything about the 5th Indy movie is an insult. The sound design is generic, they don't even use Ben Burtt's punch sounds, except for a few times. And I feel like the opening scene...even though it was decent, it was the only time Indiana Jones felt like *Indiana Jones.* It's like it exists to be a tease for the fans. Like they were saying: "oh you want this Indy? Too bad. This ain't his movie! It's Helena Shaw's movie!"
That's what it felt like to me. I am sick of male characters being made fun of and humiliated constantly in modern films. And on rare occasions, even classic female characters are treated like shit. Look at how Sarah Connor was treated in Terminator dark fate. She is verbally bashed, insulted and threatened by Grace the whole film.
But still, I hated this film so much that I refuse to buy this on home release. When I heard Phoebe Waller Bridge was announced to be in the film, instead of Short Round, instant turn off. That was my first sign that this wasn't even worth seeing in theaters. Kingdom of the crystal skull is a far superior send-off. And if they wanted to make another Indy film, then they should have done it years ago.
The dial by the way, isn't interesting. Its just a glorified compass. Nothing more.
It sucks that Indiana Jones went out on a whimper like this.
Another thing that they did with Indiana that ruined his character was that, when he was being pursued by the bad guys in the University he knocked over how many historical materials to try and knock them down
Indiana was someone who’d always claim that a historical object belongs in a Museum yet destroys them to knock down the villains? One good thing they did for Indiana was have him go through the streets of that one country they went to in the car chase through random little side streets and was able to figure out exactly where he knew to go and appeared right behind the villains car
The real Indiana Jones 5 is: Indiana Jones and The Fate of Atlantis
That's the real Indy 4! ;)
Eric would you blame James Mangold for how the film turned out or Kathleen Kennedy
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I'm working on a different versus video for Halloween right now. Stay tuned!
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I love the Order of the Phoenix game score in the background. It fits so well with the way you defend the 4th Indy movie ❤😊.
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Ehh to be perfectly honest, Dewey is not a good example for male character deconstruction. Dewey was meant to die in the second film and has always gotten the crap kicked out of him. Plus he wasn’t deconstructed, they used the actors real life relationship with gales actress as inspiration for his story in Scream five. Plus he went out on his terms as a hero. He’s also a side character technically speaking. The main character in the first four films is Sidney Prescot
Sidney, Dewey and Gale are the original trio. I would have been fine if he died protecting Gale or something. But to have him survive Ghostface for 4 movies, and then have him get done in for getting distracted by his phone was just insulting.
They killed him off like he was a nobody. And that was such a waste.
A character death like his should have been a tear jerker and it should MEAN something. But instead he died like any other extra.
That's what I found to be disrespectful.
Exactly. I agree with Eric Carter! He was given the Han Solo treatment. Screw Scream fake “5” and “6”. I don’t consider them canon to 1-4!
@@EricCarter12 Dewey has always been the punching bag of the scream franchise and has gotten his ass kicked in demoralizing ways in every movie he’s in. He was a doofus in Scream 1, gets overpowered by Mrs. Loomis in scream 2, gets instantly knocked out by the butt end of Roman’s knife in scream 3 in literally the stupidest scene in the entire franchise, overpowered and knocked out by Jill with a bed pan in scream 4, and finally killed in scream 5. What the hell are you talking about? Besides Dewey did go out in a poetic way. He couldn’t save his younger sister in the first and he goes out saving the main character’s younger sister. There was nothing disrespectful about it at all. He was part of the trio, yes, but he was not the main character. Sidney was. The most iconic character other than Sidney is Ghostface himself. Scream 5 and 6 were successful and kept the spirit of what scream is. Scream has always been a meta commentary on horror tropes and movie cliches. Dewey is a bad example to use as a icon when most die hard scream fans will agree that Dewey should’ve died earlier in the series. The only thing that would’ve been disrespectful in scream 5 is if they killed Sidney off. The series in the first four movies is about Sidney, not Dewey. Dewey is the punching bag. He gets his ass kicked in every movie he’s in and nothing can change that fact.
@@EricCarter12 Another thing: Dewey surviving was becoming a cliché in of itself. Scream has always made fun of cliches and tries to break certain ones. Dewey dying does have weight to it because it comes more out of nowhere and is genuinely shocking. It’s also probably the best looking kill in the franchise.
Also Dewey shouldn’t be roped into this video because he wasn’t being killed to be replaced. Indy is clearly being replaced by Phoebe Waller bridge. Luke and Han were being replaced by Rey. Dewey is in a horror series. You should always expect any character to die in a horror movie in any way possible. Also scream is from an entirely different studio and company. This video was about the deconstruction of Indiana Jones and what Disney keeps doing to its legacy characters. I agree with everything else in this video, I just don’t agree with using Dewey as an example.
Luke, Han and Indiana Jones are action adventure heroes. Dewey is a naive goofball in a horror series that is more grounded in reality than Star Wars and Indiana Jones. I just don’t think he works as an example for what you were talking about in the video. I view Dewey very differently from Indy and Luke. I totally buy him getting distracted by his phone because that’s what his character basically is.
Again I agree with just about everything else in this video relating to Indiana Jones and lucasfilm/Disney. I’m someone who loves crystal skull. Not as much as the other three but I think it’s a solid film. And everything you said in support of Crystal Skull I agreed with. I just think Dewey is a bad example with consideration to the type of series he’s from
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hey Eric can you do a video about the state of marvel and what you think of the future marvel movies coming.
Justice League Dark VS Multiverse of Madness!
Just discovered this review. Awesome work assembling it! Now, The Great Circle has become my fifth movie in the series. The creators really did their homework; the characters, atmosphere, story, and Indy; it's all there.
@@gemaferro Thanks buddy! It's not easy making these versus videos so I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I haven't played The Great Circle yet but will definitely play it eventually.
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18:49 I dont think recssting would have worked like it did in the Rocky universe. With the time between rocky 5 and 6, his son jumped from childhood to adulthood, so recasting would be easier and more passable. Mutt was already in about young adulthood.
I will give you a fun fact Cate blanchett it's the same actress who played the Lady galadriel in The Lord of the rings movies and I also includes The Hobbit movies.
Please do a King Kong 1933 vs Godzilla 1954 video or a Godzilla 2014 vs 1998 or King Kong 1933 vs 1976 vs 2005
Hey Eric, are you planning on doing a let's binge watch of Ahsoka considering your love for Dave Filoni?
Wow Eric thank you for putting my name up at the end of the video I feel so inspired right now, you are definitely my favorite and best UA-camr ever that I supported, I really appreciate it so much😃👍
Hey Eric, What about Micheal Keaton Batman when you gave the Rocky Balboa thing? I really wish there was a 3rd Batman Burton movie. The hermit trope isn't bad. it's the way it's depicted. Buzz is still young in the Lightyear movie. it's a future version of himself similar to Dark Flash.
Great vid eric! I agree and i have a question hopefully you answer my question what do you think of cw flash's all seasons 1-5 were all you watched right plz answer my question
I love all 4 movie,s 4th endid perfect. I hate what they did to indy in the 5th 😢
Kyle: There just taking Indiana Jones and there GRAPING HIM!
I get people keep dragging on Rey but at least she was likable like she was kind nice to the old characters respected han and Luke shit she looked up to Luke yes she was overpowered but at least she was likable and not like this character. Not defending the sequels (expect force awakens that’s a good film) but Rey at least was interesting until they screwed it up in last Jedi
I agree
I love Indiana Jones. Yet I didn’t see the recent one. Someday I’ll see it but all that I’m hearing just breaks my heart.
Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls had the perfect ending to the Indiana Jones Franchise.
I think Indiana Jones 5 may have been so much better if it came out three or four years after the Crystal Skulls came out.
Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny had a awesome start,after depressing movie!