Plastering Artex Walls & Ceilings...PLASTERING NIGHTMARE SOLVED!!
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2022
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These walls were a nightmare. But we still did it despite the scary conditions. We'll show you best way to get Artex walls flat and reveal some crucial tips for getting your walls DEAD FLAT!
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Blaine Gray,
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The Speedskim is one of the best pieces of kit I bought based on your recommendations. It's one of the tools that helped me get good results from day one when I did my first wall just over a year ago. Well worth the money.
They are brilliant aren’t they pal!! I couldn’t be without it now - a great tool to have.
Hi Blaine, I've been plastering nearly 18 months now, done the blueprint too 👌. In that time watched your videos and youve helped turn me into a half decent plaster and im getting good results, speed has upped a lot to. So just wanted to say thanks for the videos really appreciate um they are really helpful. Keep um coming pal. Best plastering channel on UA-cam by far. Cheers 👍
Thank you so much my friend!! I really appreciate that and It’s great to hear that its helped out. Keep up the good work and thank you for watching - that means a lot!
Amazing mate, keep up the good work! This channel is amazing for new plasterers and I legit been catching up on all your videos now as you provide huuuuge value & tips in every UA-cam video 👏 Thanks mate
Thank you so much mate! I really appreciate you watching - I’m just glad it’s helping. Thank you for the comment, much appreciated!
This dude is a pro . He’s mastered his trade fr
Thank you mate. I’ve still got a way to go but I appreciate the comment all the same 💪
It's just amazing to watch you work. Thank for sharing your skills.
How you stay so clean is beyond me!! I used to get covered in it!! Beautiful neat and tidy mate!!! 👊🏻👊🏻
You make it look so easy. Great work 👍
Top job as always mate 👍🏻 i bought a speedskim just after seeing your first video on it. It makes nightmare jobs so easy. Keep up the good content bud 😁
Thank you for watching pal! I really appreciate it - glad you’re liking the Speedskim!
Good bit of plastering bline, every time i watch your video its like am working with you thanks mate. Ps i watch them every day.
Thank you so much mate. I really appreciate that - it means a lot 👍
Beautiful work !! You certainly are at the top of your game !!
Thank you so much my friend!!
Top work! Spot on
I must say that was a joy to watch....Well done Sir!
Thank you pal! I really appreciate that 👍
Cracking video once again. Find your videos really helpful as try the stuff out myself and makes it so much easier to do the job
Thanks Mark mate. Great hearing from you again…hope the Plastering is going well 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners yes it's going very well thanks mate
Quality job as usual
Great job, and you did it all without liberating any asbestos. You'd never run out of rooms like this here in the USA; there are places where it's normal to texture all the walls in each room, especially as you move toward the south-west. But a lot of people in those areas actually like it that way.
Thank you and thanks for the update on the homes in the USA. It interesting to hear from other nationalities…gives an insight to their own housing habits. Thanks for watching 👍
love your vids buddy, so detailed 👍
Thank you pal!!
Lovely job.
A work of art.
top class work. Well done sir.
Thank you mate!!
Classy bit of work
Thank you mate!!
Great Video mate. I wish you'd start taking a clock with you and doing start to finish jobs on time lapse;)
Have you considered making videos on lime/clay based plasters? I have watched a few of your videos and you have helped me funnily enough learning to plaster in lime. I went through quite an ordeal with my victorian flat where any place that had gypsum caused major condensation and rot on the ceiling joists, i think gypsum has a place but the idea of PVA and skim on everything gives me shivers now.
I’ll look into it my friend - thank you for the suggestion 👍
Artist at work. Cool job.
Thank you pal!!
Another great vid mate
Thank you matey!!
Top class plasterer great job
Thank you mate. I really appreciate that!!
Great job always a pain in the arse plastering over artex👍
Cheers matey. It is a bugger ha!
Great finish
Thank you 🙏
That ratio plaster bonding will come in handy for the future. Better than scraping the old artex off. (Especially when it comes to older properties)
Glad to hear it’s helped and thank you for watching. All the best pal
Hi Blaine 👋, lovely job mate ,superb, just wondering if you could use a speedskim on the bonding instead of the straight edge, or does it not work like that ,but anyway mate top job
Absolute masterful as always Blaine. Your videos inspire me to never want to give up and continue trying to get it right.
Where did you get that wrist strap mate? It looks like it could help me, with the way it looks to wrap around your thumb too!
Thank you Marcus mate - that means a lot to me! And don’t give up. It just takes time. My friend gave them to me because he knew about my bad wrists.
So not too sure…sorry pal. You’ll probably get them from Amazon though if that helps!
Nice work young man lol! I never NEVER fucking NEVER! Bond over artex ceilings! It’s too much of a gamble Blaine! I like the fact you’re not comfortable about it either but what can you do if they don’t want to pay! Lovely work as usual lad ! 👊👊👊
Great video thanks
Cheers mate!
Nice job, believe it or not I had an artexing job to do the other week, had to use multifinish as I couldnt get hold of artex lol !
Nice one dude
Cheers pal!!!
Nice job bruv top marks. Yeah I would have just screwed the ceiling back into place. Unless badly cracked.
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What a finish! Smooth as f!
Haha cheers pal! 💪
By the title i thought it would be shocking walls by another plasterer . These walls are normal in old houses , pink grit then skim is my method if the walls are not to deep. you have done a fantastic job here matey
Thank you mate…really appreciate it. Thanks for watching 👍
Hi mate, what are your views on using sbr instead of pva? I'm told it kills the suction on whatever surface you want to control? Thanks, great video as always 👍
Hello fella just a bit of constructive criticism, you've scratched the bonding to give the skim coat a key but the artex has no key for the first coat of bonding as long as the artex was done post 1999 then there's no issue with asbestos, I always score the artex with a stanley knife in diamond shapes then pva it that gives a good key for the first coat of bonding and will never come off.
BTW the artex pattern is called broken leather.
Can't beat skimming on bonding the same day you get a lovely finish, I love forming hand turned coves with bonding and skimming it the same day the finish you get is top notch.
Use a fluffy paint roller. It makes applying PVA a dream
I’ll look into it pal…thank you for the suggestion 👌
Definitely, so much quicker when covering large areas.
And lets the pva get into the grooves that the brush misses.
@@zedzed1046 correct
I'll try that myself...Does it flick everywhere though? I wouldn't want specks of PVA on a finished ceiling or wall.
Hi Blain, does the bonding mixed in the multi finish change the feel of the product?
Top class video mate
Thank you mate!! Hope you’re well 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners all good mate works slower this month but still going steady
Hope it picks up soon pal! All the best
@@PlasteringForBeginners cheers mate hope Ur well too
Awesome work as usual, always great content in your vids. I’ve been plastering for people on and off for a good 10 years now but still learn something new from your posts, recently had a full house of artex to cover over, that was fun! Quick question though that I’m sure you’ve covered previously, when skimming onto old walls with horrendous suction, do you still manage to get a away with pva? Had a couple of jobs recently and even after 3 good pva coats, still pulling in too quick, nightmare on a staircase! Seen posts regarding blue grit but if going in the day before to coat up isn’t an option?? Anyone had success with SBR to seal internal walls instead of pva? Any tips from you or anyone else much appreciated! Cheers again for the excellent channel👍
Thank you mate, I really appreciate it! We usually PVA the walls with 3:1 and when we’re PVA the second coat get ready to start Plastering as the PVA starts to go tacky. It gives you a little more time Because the moisture is still on the walls.
That’s helped me in the past pal 👍
SBR is good on hardwall that has dried to kill suction, but SBR is different from PVA. SBR doesn't re-emulsify when wet - it's often used as a waterproofer, so you must plaster onto it while it's still tacky. If it's wet the plaster can slide, if it's fully dry plaster won't bond to it.
Cracking job there mate. Enjoyed the video. Quick question if i have to plaster part bathroom that has moisture resistant plasterboard do i have to bond it first
Thank you mate!! Just PVA it beforehand and you’re good to go - British Gypsum say you need to use their primer but I’ve used PVA loads of times and it worked treat 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners thanks for the advice
Hi Blaine. Thanks for all the work you do in helping us. I'm an absolute DIY beginner. I am currently faced with an indoor brick wall that has been hit by something and damaged the plaster in a localised area (20cm X 20cm). There is a half inch thick chunk of plaster missing. Would you be able to direct me as to which approach may be ideal to repair such? Thanks ever so much 👌
If you are a beginner, buy some Easi Fill, a cheap (if you don't intend to do more) plastering trowel or big filling knife and a (manual) hand sander. If it's a deep hole do it in stages.
Have you ever seen anyone mix up bonding in an old cement mixer. ?
I have, it don't end up well. Lol
1st bucket full went ok, time he came down to get his 2nd bucket it was stuck fast.!!
New cement mixer needed now needed. Lol
This was over 20 years ago but it still makes me laugh every time I hear the word bonding .
Great videos mate, keep them coming.
Haha what a story!! Cheers mate…thank you for watching
Love it
Cheers pal!!
Do you have to PVA if you just multi finish on top of it?
Does your water brush leave brush marks in the plaster when you're cross-trowelling mate?
Quick recommendation for priming your walls with PVA, I used to use a block masonry brush to apply it also however I now use a paint shuttle and roller set and now takes a fraction of the time, I still use a brush for all the edges tho. Also if you used blue grit and gave it 2 nice coats with finish they would’ve came out quality still.
Cheers pal…I’ll give it a go. But I’ll be honest, I’m not a fan of Bluegrit. Sorry 😂
I use a roller aswell much quicker. Just need to make sure you give it a good wash when you finish.
How many hours after the plastering you do the we troweling?
Hi Blaine. Just wondering when you bonded over the artex walls to float, did you give it 2 coats of bonding? Also I noticed in video that there was no scraping off any high spots of artex. Did you actually scrape any off when not filming?
Depends on the depth of artex mate. You'll know by looking wether to scrape or not prior to bonding out, just think less stipple = less bonding required to get over the stipple of the artex.... all jobs are different. And usually 2 coats is better prior to skimming, just gets it that bit flatter.
Hi mate! Just one coat pal - it was more than enough. And the customer scraped it back before I got there. I try to avoid scraping Artex now due to the potential Asbestos so I’d usually just leave it and Bond over it. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 👍
Cheers for the reply. 👍
Top work pal, you did a day bonding full room incl ceiling, surely you not doing it on a day rate ? that,s got to be a price job ?
Haha no I’m always in price mate. Not a fan of Day rate 😂
Hi Blaine. What's the details of your water brush ? I've seen them on line but not sure what one to buy as yours looks like it holds a good amount of water. 👍
It’s a Faithful 6” water brush. They’re brilliant…it’s my second one but it goes on forever
I tend to use blue grit on artex stops the idea of wanting for ages for the pva to go off I just come back the next day.
Grit evening before for me aswell..sometimes it takes ages for the pva to dry..plus I find grit is safer on artex
I know this sounds mad but I’m not a fan of Bluegrit. I don’t like Plastering onto it and I hate waiting a day for it to dry. I just prefer PVA. I know I’m mad because every other plasterer seems to love Bluegrit…it’s just not my thing ha!
@@PlasteringForBeginners I f...ing hate blu grit! nasty shit makes horrible scratchy noise as you go over it. inconsistent coverage as well, some areas loads of grit....others just blue liquid 😒
Excellent as always. I'm just about to plaster a small bathroom that has Artex on the walls already. Is bonding ok to use in humid areas like a bathroom? I've heard that it absorbs moisture.
Thank you pal! It’s probably best to use Hardwall mate because Bonding is known to absorb moisture.
@@PlasteringForBeginners Awesome. Thanks. I'll give it a try.
yes mate I do 3 Bathrooms a week no probs but I do tend to use hardwall a lot stronger
How come you don't use a roller for pva
Hi. Do you worry avout asbestos in those artex ceiling. Company I work for checks all artex. I know its different when self employed though but just wondered.
Sometimes but to be honest I just avoid disturbing it. But yeah…it pops up in my mind every now and again!
I'm convinced devil floats are from pre pva days (years ago) and do absolutely nothing these days.
Seen plenty of plaster coming off where they were used if the plaster layers don't stick to each other.
Jmo. I have never used one. Never will. Great work though. Dump kit in soda to clean is what I do
I started watching youre videos when we bought our first house and every room needs doing. It took me a good 3days to pluck up the courage to open my first bag of plarster. To my amazement it went and looked better than I expected. Thank you for the videos. P.s All my walls were not straight ether
What stilts are you using. Nice work as well mate
I can’t remember to be honest mate ha! I got them from Amazon…I think they were £100 maybe??
Great video. To be honest the majority of my jobs have been covering artex like this, hate doing them but always worth it when see finished product.
I still trowel all my work as not bought a speed-skim as yet, watched your reviews, but still not decided which one is best to get. Any help appreciated.
Get the Speedskim ST mate. It’s a brilliant invention - it’ll change the way you plaster pal 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners thanks Blaine, appreciated. Will have a look at your review videos again. Keep up the good work.
Blaine did u speed skim the second coat aswell and if so did u use a steel or plastic blade
I did mate. And I only use the plastic ST blade for flattening. The steel one is designed for the later, finishing stages 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners cheers for the feedback mate and keep posting always interesting to c ur methods and reasoning always seems clear and concise
I forget you guys don't believe in paint rollers and prefer the good old brush for the of pva. I worked with an Irish painter that told me he never saw a roller until he came to California. This was around 1989. It's amazing to me how you actually 4 coated those walls the way you did. It's looks terrific. They'd do a one coat where I am, and it would have to be good enough..
Hi mate, is it good enough to skim over existing paint? I see u just applied PVA on it. Thanks
Yeah just PVA beforehand and you’re good to go pal!
@@PlasteringForBeginners Does it work for multifinish as well, or just bonding? Cheers mate
Mate how big was that set ? 4 bag 1st 2 bag second ? Looks bloody massive I think I need to up my game wow on bonding too high suction impressive 👏
Ha I can't really remember now to be honest - I don't think it was that much but it was fairly big. Keeps me on my toes 🤣
Hi blaine how many days did that take to finish that big room
It was 2 long Arse days pal 😂
Did you use bonding in your second coat pressuming no ?
No matey...just the first coat
Do you ever use a Darby
Well done getting over that ceiling 👍👍
Shame on the Client's for being utter tite assed..£8 a board and screws you be lucky to spend £100 in materials on that lid.
Some Want a class act but ain't got the money... Quality plasterer's & painters are worth the weight in gold
Completely agree!....Over boarding would also be extra insulation...Pays for itself.
Yeah I know mate. You can only say so much but the customer wins in the end! I much prefer to overboard myself. Thank for watching and thanks but the comment pal 👍
Did Rhino Artex finish on a ceiling, it took loads bags of bonding to cover and to this day don't know how it is still up there with the weight.
Haha madness mate! Fair play
How do you judge when to use the devil's float on the bonding?
When the Bonding is starting to go firm…that’s the best way to use it. Just as it’s Setting 👍
You can remove the artex with a steamer. Comes off easy on solid walls. But i usually do it the way you did it in this video.
Should always check for asbestos on properties that were built before the Yr 2000. A lot of textured coatings have asbestos present so scraping artex and is potentially dangerous to yourself and anybody within the property
@@peternixon5716 very minor if any.. nothing to worry about. Wear a musk and gloves, goggles if need be.
Why have you applied pva when you have devil floated the bonding it already has a key?is it because you left it a few days?
Yeah you cannot plaster onto gone off bonding it would suck in way too quickly
It’s to control the suction rather than grip. As Luke said, Bonding would just kill your plaster
@@PlasteringForBeginners cheers thanks for both reply’s
Did screwing the old ceiling boards to the joists seem to secure them - i.e. take out the bounce? Ps haven’t watched the video all the way through yet.
Yeah it did the job my friend!
@@PlasteringForBeginners thanks for the speedy reply. 👍🏼
No worries mate
Could dab straight over the artex? Would u still need to pva
You can but I just think it’s faster Bonding over…and it’s cheaper. But yes you can and you’d still need to PVA. Hope that helps my friend 👍
Great job there Blaine the only criticism I could say was you were dictated by customer for ceiling? I understand money side but the time and effort you put in skimming screwing it up etc the cost in overboard is minimal with your time on it already. Do you agree just curious? I’ve had this issue plenty of times over the years I’m even starting to complete mesh over skims now.
Cheers pal…thank you for watching!! The price in boards would have been a fair chunk (the room was 6.5m x 4.5) and it only took me about 40 mins to screw the ceiling back up. It saved a lot more money doing it that way.
And to be honest, I give the customers options and just explain the consequences if it goes wrong. I just do what they ask in the end but I know what you’re saying. It’s tough trying to explain to customers what’s best.
Thank for watching by the way. All the best!
Top job as always thanks for reply
I have been plastering for a long time now, and I stopped plastering on to artex ceilings because sometimes they just drop off, even when you do all what this lads done, never new why they fell off . So don't take the risk of that , just drop the ceiling and start again
I've never had an artex ceiling come away unless it has distempa on top so my guess is you've been unlucky with distempa
I've been plastering 18 years and I won't entertain plastering over artex anymore. Too risky if you get bond failure, too much weight hanging on old board and artex and not worth the comeback. if the customer won't pay for overboard I walk away.
@@gileswelham2619 like I said I've never had that happen so until it does I have no issue also overboarding isn't always practical
@@lukedruggan6839 Oh yeah granted if you've not had any issues. It's not always practical if the walls aren't getting done or there's no coving going up....
I hate Distemper…that’s caught me out a few times 😂
Magic mix ..
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Have you tried the magic mix?
Bonding with multi? Works great over artex? I was a little sceptical but use it when I'm going over something that needs a deeper mix.
Great work 👍
He already did it and mentioned it as well. Magic mix is the best mix for Artex. Anyway, this Artex is not bad at all and I usually hit it in 2 thick skimming coats
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May as well use a normal feather edge and put a float over it and that would let the air into it and set quicker or a couple of hand fulls of cement witch would make it set a lot quicker so it could be finished much sooner than just waiting around for it to go off normal and maybe not be able to finish it same day and have to come back the next day before all these new products and we used sand and cement sometimes we had to wait three days before we could finish it because if the blocks were wet it would run down the walls if you didn’t leave it on the wall pulling in before anything else could be done and even then if you were lucky as sometimes it would be three days just to get it floated up and then two days to wait letting it go hard enough to skim because if it’s to green the skin will blow and just not take proper so it’s so important to know what you are doing in these cases but it’s being lost all the knowledge as it’s so different lately and I feel sorry for new youngsters just starting to learn the trade as plastering is a really lot to learn if you want to be a proper tradesmen and six years to learn maybe more as you don’t do everything and a finish might not be done for ages and pop up out of the blue and then it’s your time to learn it I’ve been plastering over 45 years and still I lean new things and always will so you need a open mind and relise no one knows everything 👍👍
When do I breathe? The occasional full stop would help! 😂
Why u wait 3 days? Can not do next day Skimming?
Thx
It was just a long weekend…no reason other than that 👍
Good days Graft
It was my friend!!
I work for a local council and we are not allowed to touch artex until it has been tested for asbestos..not even a nail or screw..
It’s the best way to be honest mate.
I would have wanted that old ceiling ripping out and starting again even if it did cost extra, personal preference.
I may be teaching you to suck eggs, I don't know, but I've not heard you talk of 'Carlite Finish' at all. It used to be the Go-To for Carlite Browning then Hardwall, but many builders merchants stopped stocking it when Multi-Finish came out ..... However! If your S&C Render, Bonding, Hardwall render ever gets far too dry, it's THE finish to use 'without' the need for Glueing Up all the time :-( .... I doubt it's called Carlite Finish anymore, it used to have a Pinky-Purple end to the bag up to a few years ago ... Might be well worth checking out - I reckon you'd LOVE the time it saves, and how easy it spreads .... No good on FRESH render though ......
I’ve heard loads about this. I’ve never actually used it but tried buying some into Hastings. It ended up being £15 a bag and then shipping…wasn’t worth it. But I still want to give it a go. Great hearing from you, hope you’re well 👍
Never had had any success going on pva bonding blisters every where always done bond and set same day ?
You have to let the first coat of plaster go off a bit longer on the Bonding. And only skim it when the PVA has gone tacky…never when it’s wet. That should do it 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners ahh 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners do you ever do venetian plastering never seen it done or finished 🤔
🤔What we’re they doing upstairs to pop all the nails in the ceiling 🤔😳🤭
Hahah 😂😂
Hawk and trowel , then darby? Wow you dont see that every day.
Haha 😂
Dot and dab
Scrape back pva 2 coats of skim a lot easier
crack
Pipe???
Bonding should not be used on artex
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