Pete's gracious hosting and ego free, leading of his channel is second to none! He is a breath of fresh air. He and Martin together, with their massive knowledge of all things that rock, is total candy to us music fans....I no longer sleep-totally worth it! Huge thanks!
Yeah, Pete runs a master class in how to build a team with people who are at a huge distance from each other. And eggheads can be particularly difficult. But not here. Everything blends beautifully. And Pete is fiercely loyal to his team.
@@timhewtson6212 Beautifully put! Long distance gatherings aren't easy, and different personalities sharing discussions with varying viewpoints - Mr. Pardo is the perfect personality and his humility and willingness to lay back and let his music friends shine is always on display! This should be a lesson in how to foster a positive environment, allowing the common goal of discussing music without any negativity or ego getting in the way. We see so much petty bullshit from people in power nowadays - the entire Sea Of Tranquility channel is the absolute antithesis of all that. Great post and take care!
Great mention! Quiet Riot sunk like a turd after Metal Health, and Kevin DuBrow became the most hated man in music - s face in need of a punch! Cheers!
Cheers Martin and Pete! Jethro Tull- Under Wraps. Horrendous 80’s electronic drums and synths. Wings- Wild Life ELP-In the Hot Seat- Nothing redeemable on this one. At least Love Beach had Officer and a Gentleman and Carnario. Bad Company- Rough Diamonds. Electric Land only good song. John Lennon- Sometime in New York
Greatest Album Bombs, Part 2 (w/Martin Popoff) Martin Popoff 1- Starz - Attention Shoppers (1978) 2- Queen - Hot Space (1982) Pete Pardo 1- Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Love Beach (1978) 2-
I love the cover artwork on BOC's "Revolution By Night." What an excellent drawing! The album's not bad either. I like quite a few of the songs on that one.
Kansas: Monolith. Never understood the fact that it's considered a low point. Production isn't quite at the level of Point Of Know Return, but it's a fantastic album, certainly better that the one that succeeded it.
I have always loved Monolith. No huge hit single though. Which is pretty much why it didn't do nearly as well as Leftoverture or POKR. Still love it, though.
@@michaelbaucom4019 - I dig Monolith, but I always liked Audio Visions just as much. However I am a HUGE fan of Drastic Measures, probably the only one 😂 Loved it since the day it was released.
I agree with you about Revolution by Night However as a major BOC fan Take Me Away and Shooting Shark I think are excellent I think that’s Randy Jackson who plays bass on the latter
Popoff and Pardo at it again and.....Bombs Away (again in Part 2). Another great show, gents. May not have been named in the Part 1 comments but simply must mention Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. My favorite unlistenable album to bring up in almost any situation. Noticed some 'speaking pattern comments' during the premier live discussion. Hoping that neither of you change your speaking much since that is part of who you are and that naturalness, for lack of a better word, is part of what makes SoT such an enjoyable channel. There ya go! Looking forward to the hired guns episodes to come.
Another great show guys well done. Here are some more album bombs CCR - Mardi Gras Bad Company - Rough Diamonds Vixen - rev it up David Lee Roth - a little aint enough Elton John - Leather Jackets Aerosmith - Done with mirrors Peter Frampton - The art of control Billy Squire - Enough is Enough ELO - Balance of Power Fleetwood Mac - Tusk
funny talking about BOC , i saw them early on and i just didn't think they rocked that hard and didn't have the "look" . having watched and listened SOT for the last year or so , i have listened to BOC and have learned to hear that they in fact had a lot of very good/great/odd songs. keep up the good work guys.
The '94 self-titled Motley Crue record with John Corabi is always my first go-to for a topic like this. Sure, it's a bit indulgent and over-produced but it sounds massive and the songs really do kick ass.
Huge fan of Queen, saw then live in 1980 at the peak of their powers and when The Game broke massive in the US. Then I remember when Hot Space came out, we were all stunned. I had only heard Under Pressure (of course since it came out in 1981) and played Body Language in the music store, when they used to have booths with headphones so you could listen to a track. I thought it was quirky and catchy and didn't mind one song like that on a Queen album, not knowing what I was in for. Funnily enough when I got home to play the album I put side 2 on first by mistake and heard Put Out The Fire, with some good Brian playing, thinking this is great! And as Martin said that side is not bad - apart from the appalling Cool Cat, which I still don't like to this day. Then I flipped it over...wow what a shock. Over time some of the songs grew on me a little. But not enough. I saw Queen live twice on the 1982 Hot Space tour and some of those funky songs came over better live, with the full Queen power set up behind them. But overall Martin's assessment is spot on.
Yeah, the Crue album with John Corabi just showed the Crue's potential with a vocalist who could really SING! Heavy, yet melodic album, that really surprised us Motley fans with it's stellar tuneage! Vince has simply worn most of us Crue fans out with his bad vibes and wretched vocals. Check out Corabi's stuff with The Scream and more recently Dead Daisies- both are top shelf bands!
Thanks to both of you. Another great show, I love the fun house shows and look forward to the next concept. Joe Lynn Turner is one that immediately sprang to my mind for this series, which is also fitting with the forthcoming Hudson Valley Squares show.
There's a hilarious bit in the Audio Commentary of Queen's music video collection, during the Body Language video. A particularly racy, homoerotic bit of the video plays, and the extremely polite Brian (or Roger maybe, I forget), breaks the awkward silence: "Hmmm this was really mostly Freddie's thing..."
Hard to believe MTV originally banned it back in the day....................compared to the videos they'd show later, that one looked like a Disney movie!
@Jason Thompson Incredible musicians in Extreme, who play with groove and great skill-Nuno is simply a wizard, close to EVH, with riffs for days and soloing that dazzles......just masterful guitar skills! Stellar rhythm section, Pat Badger bass badass, and lastly Gary can belt it out, while showing a nice melodic ability on slower stuff. I have every album they ever released and ALL are chock full of complete ear candy! I even spent some bucks on Nuno's solo albums (some from Japan) and they also fill the room with great melodies and hooks. We Extreme fans are constantly trying to turn others on to their undervalued magic, and we are ALL waiting for that long delayed album from them-PUT IT OUT!
Rest in Peace was number one on rock radio in November of 92. MTV played that video to death too. Stop the World was played on MTV as well. It definitely got a chance from radio and MTV. Just no big hit ballads and of course they were associated with 80s rock instead of grunge.
Friends, just sub-ed; this is a good subject. I am 65, an experienced Listener/Collector (6k LPs & 5K CDs), and Jazz Snob, and my ultimate bomb was Tull "Thick as a Brick." How could this boring piece of pollution come after "Aqualung"? It just so happens that two weeks ago, I picked up TB on CD and listened to it in the car to see if I was missing anything? Wow, nothing there; what were they trying to achieve? Turned me off the band at age 14 ever since. I was thinking of this subject after my listen and how people loved this LP when it came out. Your review is timely and hits close to home. Thanks again. BOB, Denver, Co
III Sides have two video singles, Rest In Piece, Stop The World, Am I Ever Gonna Change was a radio single along with the other two. Also Motley 94 is amazing. Favorite Crue album hands down
Love your channel and look for a new video everyday, always entertaining and informative, but with a sense of humour. I have been listening to rock and metal for 50 years and have seen many bands in that time, hear in the UK. Was very lucky to have seen Iron Maiden at the beginning of their career, Gentle Giant over 6 times Rory Gallagher many times Sabbath with Ozzy, first time round, the Who, Stones and Kiss in 1976 in London. Must agree about the ELP Love Island album, just terrible, and I am a massive fan, but that was a big mistake!! Thanks again Pete for the channel and brightening up my day. Best wishes from the UK.
The Revolution By Night: I don't hate it, and in fact, I rather like it. Shooting Shark is one of my favorite Buck songs in the BOC catalog. Club Ninja, on the other hand...
Speaking of that VHIII album, my local record shop years back had a box labeled "free" where they'd chuck a few CDs from the bargain bin that had been gathering dust for years, and they just wanted to get it the hell out of the store. One day I'm in there, and they had a used copy of VHIII in there. I hesitated, because I love VH, have almost all the other albums, but I knew how bad this album was. Again: I hesitated at taking home a free CD from a band I love. I still have it, mind you, but I've listened to it once. My god, what a slog. The UA-camr Todd In The Shadows features this album on one of his "Trainwreckords" segments, and his commentary sums up the album perfectly.
Martin! Sweet shirt man! I love NoMeansNo. One of the best shows I've had the pleasure of attending. They were such a great band and an excellent discography. I wore my Wrong shirt until it was ribbons.
Hi Pete, I enjoy your videos. Both you and Martin gel very well together. One I wanted to mention was Genesis and their “Calling All Stations” effort. Released in 1997, it was their first without lead singer Phil Collins. The album had one radio single “Congo”, but fans didn’t want a new lead singer.
I just recently picked up Revolution by Night. Funny thing is that i never had even heard of it. I also never gave that self titled Motley Crue album a full listen until earlier this year, and it's really good!
Surprised nobody has mentioned "The Wreckage" from Tygers of Pan Tang. Similar situation to Starz, except they then doubled down in '87 with "Burning In the Shade".
I'm not sure, but I think that ELP album cover was an intentional pastiche of the BeeGees. Could be wrong, though. I love these failure analysis vids. It's fun to examine failures in movies, consumer products, business blunders, and especially tanked albums.
No, from what I have read ELP were genuinely trying to have more commercial success at the time and the way the cover turned out was part of that. The cover was photographed in the Bahamas where they recorded the album. Carl Palmer has said since that he hates the cover, I don’t think there was any satirical or tongue in cheek intention at the time. People have made fun of it or compared it to the Bee Gees over passing years.
Like he was trying to be Roth on that song with all the hello babe stuff,5150 pretty cool but I thought it was different band to Roth lead one,and yes van Halen 111 awful ,and Eddie singing lead vocals mega guitarist but vox are bad
So true blame Atlantic Records. Most of these songs were written for other bands/artists but the band were told to do them and release them. "Out On The Streets" was rerecord from "Sirens" and 2 covers. I remember this time very well almost broke them up.
The only redeeming thing about that album I'd say is it caused the band to reevaluate themselves, and subsequently give us the Savatage we know and love.
Faith No More's burst out to Platinum certification on their 3rd album (1st with vocalist Mike Patton), "The Real Thing" with the help of single "Epic". The follow up, "Angel Dust", went only to Gold even though I feel it's actually a superior album.
Faith No More comes off as a goofy novelty band, so no surprise the novelty wore off quickly (and the 90's was full of goofy "alternative" bands that came and went very fast).
Hell being a huge Queen fan, i was pissed they took to another direction and added synthesizer. Wow what a heavy blow to the die hard fan. The Game was the beginning of the end. Like you said Martin there was only two to three good songs on each album from that point on. When I heard Hot Space immediately went outside and used it as a frisbee
Wow!Queen have been my favorite since 1980.so Hot Space was the first time I was able to buy a new studio album by my favorite band.At least Hot Space still..to me anyway..sounds like a proper album,unlike A Kind Of Magic. AKOM was a big dissapoinment to me.To me its just part Iron Eagle soundtrack part Highlander soundtrack.And it certainly doesn't help that my absolute three least favorite Queen songs are on it...One Year of Love..ugh!!!Hell,that song doesn't even have ANY Brian May guitar on it!Instead,we get a saxophone solo.WTF?
I caught that Come Taste 👅 The Band and then Martin’s tee hee- ing afterwards ( just so ya know Pete 😝 lol; but I think you’re right on the 💰. I absolutely thought it was a’yacht rock’ Lp and needed to check twice as I didn’t get the impression it was ELP.!! This weekend is turning into just one big SOT marathon of all your previous episodes; so if you’re seeing commentary for different shows? That’s Y. Going on day 4 now and counting! 😉 Sincerely yours, DJP Boston Massachusetts USA 🇨🇳 of course eventually.
Really loving these podcasts. I especially like the fact that you guys are talking more generally in the music scene, not just heavy metal (which I love) these listed will help me seek out some overlooked gems. Keep up the great work! Btw, Pete, where are you from in the Hudson valley? I’m a Rockland guy myself. Be well guys, this is great stuff!
About VH3: I think that what Gary Cherone is missing on that album is Nuno's backing vocals. Their 2 voices work super well together. Maybe if Michael Anthony had given more backing, it would have worked better...Great show!
Well the story we hear in the UK of Queen's decline in the US was not only Hot Space but the video to I Want To Break Free. The American public didn't like the cross dressing video. Us Brits got it because it was actually Freddie's take on a great British institution, the soap opera Coronation Street
Truth is , that video never really played here at all. It was a well-promoted hit everywhere but in the US. The US decline was simply due to zero promotion in the US after Hot Space and no tours for either The Works or A Kind of Magic. When they finally had a well-promoted hit again in '89 with I Want it All, Freddie was too sick to tour, and America was begging for a tour by that point.
My problem with Attention Shoppers speaking as a HUGE Starz fan, is that I could never find it when it came out. It was never in stock at any of the record stores.
Stupid record stores and their weak-ass selection! Plenty of Air Supply in racks-no hard rock! Tower Records was my OASIS! God I miss it! Attention Shoppers, while poppier, was still in constant rotation on my turntable-great hooks and songcraft! Just downloaded Coliseum Rock from I tunes-wasn't going to pay thirty-four thousand dollars for the actual c.d.! And it R O C K S !!! Great band-Starz is a secret gift to all hard rock fans who are in the know! Peace.
The impossible question of 'best song ever' is a trite debate however i think you can make an argument for 'Under Pressure' being the best song in popular music, I'm by no means saying it is but you can make a convincing argument for it i feel. I agree with Pete, I never tire of hearing it.
I think the album that Psycho Circus has the most in common with is Yes', Union.. In both cases we were sold on the notion of a reunion album, when in fact they weren't and it was apparent to the fans. However I did attend the tours for both albums and the tours were exactly what we hoped for, at least in my humble opinion.
Good show! Genesis - Calling all Stations was definitely bombing big time. Another one that springs to my mind: U-Vox by Ultravox after having lot of good singles on the albums before.
Oh yes, as a long term die hard Genesis fan, who despite much preferring the Peter Gabriel years, actually even enjoyed We Can't Dance, thanks to songs like Fading Lights, Driving the Last Spike and a bunch of others. And when Calling All Stations came out, it was such a huge, enormous disappointment.
I had completely forgotten about U-vox!I remember being a little mad that I had spent 7 dollars on it and was hoping to hear lots of synths and electric violin.I still don't have that one on CD and don't know if I ever will. I also was dissapointed with Ingenuity.At the time that I bought it,i didn't know that the only Ultravox guy in that line up was Billy Currie.But it is better than U-Vox.
@@adamsmashups4839 I never even bothered with U-Vox. I think the only good song on that is "All in One Day". Did you try "Brilliant" from 10 years ago?
@@matma84 I had forgotten about Briliant.Midge Ure actually played Kansas City a couple of years a go.It was just him and acoustic guitar.I never ever thought Midge would play the USA again and I still can't believe that he played just a few miles from me.I am jealous of the UK fans that get to seee him on his next tour where he will be playing an all electronic set(heavy on the synths).
@@adamsmashups4839 I have seen him play with Ultravox on on the European leg of the reunion tour in 2010 in Munich. They did a great set with the 4 classic 80s albums, being in fine form. On Brilliant I did not like the vocals, the mix of them seemed odd and Midges voice sounded tired. There were a few songs I liked like the "Live Again" or "Satellite" but it was not the great comeback I would have wished for. I see, maybe I will catch him again in Germany.
For the Van Halen III. .. Gary wasn't trying to be anything. Ed was in charge (manipulating) of everything as he was in a very dark place personally. Gary had said in some interviews that Ed playing in certain keys that was stretching his voice. Yes. Gary was just a hired voice. Ed didn't care about vocals or singers; just knew he needed one. The other thing about III is that it was sort of an experiment of sorts. They wrote all the lyrics first then added music afterwards. That was very contrary to what they've always done where Ed would come up with the licks; him and Al would create the arrangement; then add lyrics. VH supposedly had another album with Gary that was mostly completed, and it was said that it was more of the style of traditional Van Halen. But the record label gave the band to get back with Sammy or Dave or they were dropping them because sales for III were so bad. Hopefully someday we'll get to hear the supposed next album with Gary.
I think Metallica's 'Load' fits into this topic. While the Black album started a huge commercial shift for the band, it wasn't until the following album where the guys shifted their sound dramatically and turned off a lot of Metallica fans. Personally, I don't mind 'Load,' but it's a huge downfall from their debut and 'Ride the Lightning.'
To be fair punk barely sold any records in America (look at the charts, a couple Clash records did alright and that was about it for Punk commercially in the the US) Also, punk was most popular with later Baby Boomers (those born in the early 60's). Punk was completely dead by 1985, when Gen X was the main driver for musical trends (the soaring popularity of metal in the late 80's is due to Gen X). Disco and punk: Boomers. Metal and New Wave: Gen X.
Because historically punk had its time and place between the mid and late70’s when England was in crisis, and there were lots of riots and protests, workers strikes and cabinet disapproval from the people. Say what you want but when Margaret Tatcher brought things back on track, punk was unnecessary. She thankfully throw it away from relevancy. Punk was the voice of the street and the profanity. [ on the topic,Jordan Peterson has an amazing lecture about the differences between art and propaganda, it’s brilliant]. So when things came back to normal, punk was unnecessary, it didn’t stand the test of time. Unlike heavy metal which is always relevant. And Guns’n Roses suck balls. Always have, alway will.
@@metalstorm7506 This is utter nonsense. Music is not a sociological treatise. It is melodies and chords and rhythms. The term punk is meaningless, as are all genre terms. There is no real difference between, say, a UK Subs song, a Who song or a Carpenters song. They all use common elements. When I first heard the records coming out of the 'punk' scene, I was 12, 13, 14, living in a remote town in Northern Australia and completely unaware of the political landscape that lay behind those bands. I loved and still love the music. The tunes, the performances. Everything else is just scribbling in the margins. Music has nothing to do with relevance. Melody and rhythm is outside of temporal politics. And if you don't understand that, then you are not reacting to music as music, but rather as a tool in your identity.
The critique early on about Starz, tying in Angel with that whole Kiss marketing plan not working then a whole group of band going wishy washy like Moxy, Montrose was right on. It makes me think back to when I started expanding to other bands in the 70s, I found early Judas Priest, early AC/DC, Scorpions with Uli Jon Roth, late 70s UFO. All of a sudden. I pretty much spent money on a whole new group of bands.
I just rewatched this episode. I like the fact that you didn’t bash VH3 for the vocals. Gary did an amazing job at that but, as Pete said, the band sounded tired. There were things happening in the band as well. The Live tour for the album however was one of the most memorable concerts I’d seen because Gary did songs from every genre of VH. And he could sing them well.
Extreme didn’t read the room. They simply sold albums on a couple of great ballads. Most people who bought the previous album didn’t like the album much beyond the singles.
I worked at a major record chain at the time and we tracked everything. "Pornograffiti" was BY FAR the most returned album ever for us. I loved it, but the little girls didn't understand anything with an electric guitar.
Sting - Mercury Falling R.E.M. - New Adventures in Hi-Fi Squeeze - Frank (which is actually, I think, a better album than their previous album, Babylon and On, but not nearly as successful, commercially) Split Enz - Conflicting Emotions Elvis Costello - Mighty Like a Rose Cutting Crew - The Scattering Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute Duran Duran - Liberty
Fun show! MARDI GRAS by CCR, and the most inconsistent group of all-time - Wishbone Ash, with WISHBONE FOUR, LOCKED IN, and FRONT PAGE NEWS, all following great albums. The Beach Boys' CARL AND THE PASSIONS after SUNFLOWER and SURF'S UP.
"3 Sides To Every Story" is great! I'm also a big fan of "Waiting For The Punchline". "Shadow Boxing" is a great song. And, the Motley Crue s/t is damn good as well.
I hated 'Hot Space' when it came out but I've warmed to one half of it enormously. I absolutely love the Freddie-dominated dance tracks. For my money they feature some of his all time best vocals. If they'd done the whole record in that style I'd rate it so highly.
Hot Space - Las Palabras, yeah, I liked it alot, and Life is Real. I also quite enjoyed Action this Day and even had a thing for Cool Cat, they kinda had that quirky thing that stuff like Seaside Rendezvous or Bring Back that Leroy Brown, although not nearly as good, but Under Pressure quickly became overplayed. The rest of the album was a tragic head-scratcher because it was just so diametrically different than all those "No Synthesizers" classic albums.
@@purpletemple1 kill me ce soir is the one good track on the album. Very disappointing after Moontan. I've got all their late 60's to late 70's albums, and switch is by far the least played in my house.
ELP could have featured on 'The Love Boat' with a cover like that. I'd given up on them after 'Works Volume 1'. Their apotheosis was essentially in the early 70's as it was for many bands of that era. 80's Queen is hard to digest after their 70's greatness. The 80's has a lot to answer for. Great choices gents.
I never really thought Under Pressure was that good of a song. Really don’t care for the scat singing and finger snaps and all that. It’s a little cheesy and lightweight, but seems like most people love that song. And obviously many love it because of the live-aid and Mercury/Bowie connection. But really taking off the nostalgia goggles I don’t find it to be that impressive.
Saw moxy round '83 in a mid sized 🇨🇦 town in a small bar with 2 other bands that were influenced by Priest or Van Halen 😂😂🤟🤟🤟🤟great days !! Maybe even still selling quarts drinking from the bottle they popped the top for you 🤣🤣🤟🤟
I've still never heard that Van Halen album, even though they were one of my favorite bands a few years prior. I'll have to check out the Extreme album.
Judas Priest- both "Demolition" and "Nostradamus", Iron Maiden-both "No Prayer For The Dying" and "Virtual XI", Saxon- "Destiny", Megadeth- both "Risk" and "Super Collider", Anthrax- "Stomp 442", C.O.C.- "Americas Volume Dealer", Celtic Frost- "Cold Lake," Discharge- "Grave New World", Anti-Nowhere League- "The Perfect Crime"
MANY would put it in that category! Risk would be considered heavy - if it were made by The Bay City Rollers. This is not what Dave does best, way too commercial and watered down.
This was a great show I could write a five page report about it but I won’t .bravo guys ! Two quick points I never knew that foreigner album existed and attention shoppers just killed them
Martin's savage critique of Psycho Circus was my favorite part of this episode; made me laugh my ASS off!!! Had tears in my eyes...and this is coming from someone who actually loves the album. I came to it FAR later than most, and under different circumstances, but I get why many fans have a huge problem with it. Yes, I love that Extreme album. My favorite from them.
Most Kiss stuff post-Lick it Up is kind of so-so, to be honest. Interesting about the rave for Revenge though, an album so obviously thought out to be 'heavy just to be cool and tough' it reeks from every song, sadly the material in my opinion just isn't there apart from a few songs. Produced by the same guy who's turned Deep Purple into a rather safe sounding band, why not apply the same 'dangerous' sound there.
@@TheTVisions For the most part, I actually agree with your overall assessment, and understand what you are saying. With that said, strange as it may seem, Lick it Up was never one of my top personal favorites. I mostly agree about Revenge; many seem to like it because it's 'heavier' and 'grittier' (particularly when compared to the slicker productions of the two albums preceding it) but, 'heavy' in and of itself is not enough of a draw for someone like me; many of the songs on Revenge leave me a bit cold. The final two albums don't do much of anything for me, and same goes for Hot in the Shade. The much maligned Carnival of Souls I find to be ok (not excellent, though.)
I think both Gary and Van Halen tried to do something different from their past times. Though it's not remarkable, I find it more interesting than the "glam-like" Hagar era songs.
I would put in Cheap Trick - All Shook Up. Following up the mega hit, Dream Police, All Shook Up seemed to be forgotten by the general public. I personally love All Shook Up (except for Who D King). This album had a different sound than Dream Police, but it still really rocks.
I always think of Motley Crue’s S/T and Skid Row’s Subhuman Race as “sister albums”…both have a very dense, maxed out production (by the same producer) with a running time that’s a bit too long, both have a band trying to stretch out of their comfort zone a bit, and both were the bands’ first step off of the cliff into commercial free fall.
Nice description of production on these two, very rockin' and aggressive albums, both of which I like a lot. Love Skid Row's turn to heavyosity after limp debut ( a few good rockers on it) and Slave To The Grind and Subhuman Race cracked skulls (still wish Sebastian had gone back to Skid Row) and really liked Crue's album with excellent John Corabi. A whole lotta Crue fans swear by this album and I am one of em'. Vince Neil held band back with his lack of........singing. Commercially though, yeah, they both could only be purchased in the Bermuda Triangle! Cruel fate.
One of the most undervalued hard rock bands who rock fans would really dig=STARZ! The debut and Violation are CRANK-WORTHY and I would fight an alligator if he tried to steal em'.
Pete and Martin together are the best thing on UA-cam. Thank you guys.
Totally agree! I can’t wait to see what Pete and the crew nerd out about each day. Being a fellow music nerd myself, it’s what I live for?
Seconded wholeheartedly
Pete's gracious hosting and ego free, leading of his channel is second to none! He is a breath of fresh air. He and Martin together, with their massive knowledge of all things that rock, is total candy to us music fans....I no longer sleep-totally worth it! Huge thanks!
Yeah, Pete runs a master class in how to build a team with people who are at a huge distance from each other. And eggheads can be particularly difficult. But not here. Everything blends beautifully. And Pete is fiercely loyal to his team.
@@timhewtson6212 Beautifully put! Long distance gatherings aren't easy, and different personalities sharing discussions with varying viewpoints - Mr. Pardo is the perfect personality and his humility and willingness to lay back and let his music friends shine is always on display! This should be a lesson in how to foster a positive environment, allowing the common goal of discussing music without any negativity or ego getting in the way. We see so much petty bullshit from people in power nowadays - the entire Sea Of Tranquility channel is the absolute antithesis of all that. Great post and take care!
After a bad day at work Pete and Martin make things so much better.Thank you.
No mention of Quiet Riot? Metal Health sells over 6 million but the follow up Condition Critical barely hits a mil and the band disappears...
Great mention! Quiet Riot sunk like a turd after Metal Health, and Kevin DuBrow became the most hated man in music - s face in need of a punch! Cheers!
Cheers Martin and Pete!
Jethro Tull- Under Wraps. Horrendous 80’s electronic drums and synths.
Wings- Wild Life
ELP-In the Hot Seat- Nothing redeemable on this one. At least Love Beach had Officer and a Gentleman and Carnario.
Bad Company- Rough Diamonds. Electric Land only good song.
John Lennon- Sometime in New York
So glad to hear so many good things about Extreme's third album .. a masterpiece that blew my mind when it came out. Thanks Pete.
Absolutely.That is the first Extreme album I bought.One of my favorite albums of the 90s.
Greatest Album Bombs, Part 2 (w/Martin Popoff)
Martin Popoff
1- Starz - Attention Shoppers (1978)
2- Queen - Hot Space (1982)
Pete Pardo
1- Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Love Beach (1978)
2-
I love the cover artwork on BOC's "Revolution By Night." What an excellent drawing! The album's not bad either. I like quite a few of the songs on that one.
I like the cover, but I think that's the album with " Shooting Shark" one of my least favorite BOC songs.
@@phillipanderson7398 And it's one of my favourites.
1)Avril Lavigne Goodbye Lullaby
2}Beastie Boys Paul's Boutique
3)Debbie Gibson Body, Mind, Soul 4)Jouney Trial By Fire 5)Kix Hot Wire
6)Skid Row Subhuman Race
Kansas: Monolith. Never understood the fact that it's considered a low point. Production isn't quite at the level of Point Of Know Return, but it's a fantastic album, certainly better that the one that succeeded it.
Agreed, love it a lot beautiful songs.
The real bomb was Audio-Visions....or Drastic Measures
For me the huge Kansas bomb was In The Spirit Of Things. Great album, really good stuff, but nobody cared, tanked.
I have always loved Monolith. No huge hit single though. Which is pretty much why it didn't do nearly as well as Leftoverture or POKR. Still love it, though.
@@michaelbaucom4019 - I dig Monolith, but I always liked Audio Visions just as much. However I am a HUGE fan of Drastic Measures, probably the only one 😂 Loved it since the day it was released.
I agree with you about Revolution by Night However as a major BOC fan
Take Me Away and Shooting Shark
I think are excellent
I think that’s Randy Jackson who plays bass on the latter
Dragon Lady and Veins are also good when played at the proper volume level..
Popoff and Pardo at it again and.....Bombs Away (again in Part 2). Another great show, gents. May not have been named in the Part 1 comments but simply must mention Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. My favorite unlistenable album to bring up in almost any situation. Noticed some 'speaking pattern comments' during the premier live discussion. Hoping that neither of you change your speaking much since that is part of who you are and that naturalness, for lack of a better word, is part of what makes SoT such an enjoyable channel. There ya go! Looking forward to the hired guns episodes to come.
Another great show guys well done. Here are some more album bombs
CCR - Mardi Gras
Bad Company - Rough Diamonds
Vixen - rev it up
David Lee Roth - a little aint enough
Elton John - Leather Jackets
Aerosmith - Done with mirrors
Peter Frampton - The art of control
Billy Squire - Enough is Enough
ELO - Balance of Power
Fleetwood Mac - Tusk
Thanks so much for the heads up on the Extreme album - it's a bloody masterpiece - just listened to it for the first time - awesome!
Just a great band and incredible, creative masterpiece....Nuno is mind-blowing!
funny talking about BOC , i saw them early on and i just didn't think they rocked that hard and didn't have the "look" . having watched and listened SOT for the last year or so , i have listened to BOC and have learned to
hear that they in fact had a lot of very good/great/odd songs. keep up the good work guys.
The '94 self-titled Motley Crue record with John Corabi is always my first go-to for a topic like this.
Sure, it's a bit indulgent and over-produced but it sounds massive and the songs really do kick ass.
....and a lot of us Crue fans really dig it! Corabi is a great singer and his stuff with Dead Daisies- is excellent!
Huge fan of Queen, saw then live in 1980 at the peak of their powers and when The Game broke massive in the US. Then I remember when Hot Space came out, we were all stunned. I had only heard Under Pressure (of course since it came out in 1981) and played Body Language in the music store, when they used to have booths with headphones so you could listen to a track. I thought it was quirky and catchy and didn't mind one song like that on a Queen album, not knowing what I was in for. Funnily enough when I got home to play the album I put side 2 on first by mistake and heard Put Out The Fire, with some good Brian playing, thinking this is great! And as Martin said that side is not bad - apart from the appalling Cool Cat, which I still don't like to this day. Then I flipped it over...wow what a shock. Over time some of the songs grew on me a little. But not enough. I saw Queen live twice on the 1982 Hot Space tour and some of those funky songs came over better live, with the full Queen power set up behind them. But overall Martin's assessment is spot on.
Yeah, the Crue album with John Corabi just showed the Crue's potential with a vocalist who could really SING! Heavy, yet melodic album, that really surprised us Motley fans with it's stellar tuneage! Vince has simply worn most of us Crue fans out with his bad vibes and wretched vocals. Check out Corabi's stuff with The Scream and more recently Dead Daisies- both are top shelf bands!
Love the Voivod mention. I’ve been listening an album a day from them for the last couple months.
Blu Oyster Cult's image worked for me. The fact they had no look and what's a Blue Oyster Cult? There was a mystery there.
Thanks to both of you. Another great show, I love the fun house shows and look forward to the next concept. Joe Lynn Turner is one that immediately sprang to my mind for this series, which is also fitting with the forthcoming Hudson Valley Squares show.
Boston - Walk On
The Doors - Other Voices
Loverboy - Keep It Up
Reo Speedwagon - Good Trouble
There's a hilarious bit in the Audio Commentary of Queen's music video collection, during the Body Language video. A particularly racy, homoerotic bit of the video plays, and the extremely polite Brian (or Roger maybe, I forget), breaks the awkward silence: "Hmmm this was really mostly Freddie's thing..."
Hard to believe MTV originally banned it back in the day....................compared to the videos they'd show later, that one looked like a Disney movie!
@Jason Thompson Yeah, no kidding! What a joke that channel's become. Sheesh.
I love the song Am I ever gonna change from that Extreme record.
Nuno is an incredible guitarist who deserved a better fate.
Great call with Three Sides To Every Story Pete. I love Extreme and thought the album was incredible. 😁🎸
@Jason Thompson Incredible musicians in Extreme, who play with groove and great skill-Nuno is simply a wizard, close to EVH, with riffs for days and soloing that dazzles......just masterful guitar skills! Stellar rhythm section, Pat Badger bass badass, and lastly Gary can belt it out, while showing a nice melodic ability on slower stuff. I have every album they ever released and ALL are chock full of complete ear candy! I even spent some bucks on Nuno's solo albums (some from Japan) and they also fill the room with great melodies and hooks. We Extreme fans are constantly trying to turn others on to their undervalued magic, and we are ALL waiting for that long delayed album from them-PUT IT OUT!
Brilliant album by a brilliant band! NUNO!
I didn't think Van Halen III was all that bad either... OF course very different from Classic VH.
Rest in Peace was number one on rock radio in November of 92. MTV played that video to death too. Stop the World was played on MTV as well. It definitely got a chance from radio and MTV. Just no big hit ballads and of course they were associated with 80s rock instead of grunge.
Friends, just sub-ed; this is a good subject. I am 65, an experienced Listener/Collector (6k LPs & 5K CDs), and Jazz Snob, and my ultimate bomb was Tull "Thick as a Brick." How could this boring piece of pollution come after "Aqualung"? It just so happens that two weeks ago, I picked up TB on CD and listened to it in the car to see if I was missing anything? Wow, nothing there; what were they trying to achieve? Turned me off the band at age 14 ever since. I was thinking of this subject after my listen and how people loved this LP when it came out. Your review is timely and hits close to home. Thanks again. BOB, Denver, Co
III Sides have two video singles, Rest In Piece, Stop The World, Am I Ever Gonna Change was a radio single along with the other two.
Also Motley 94 is amazing. Favorite Crue album hands down
Another great show! These guys know their stuff!
Love your channel and look for a new video everyday, always entertaining and informative, but with a sense of humour. I have been listening to rock and metal for 50 years and have seen many bands in that time, hear in the UK. Was very lucky to have seen Iron Maiden at the beginning of their career, Gentle Giant over 6 times Rory Gallagher many times Sabbath with Ozzy, first time round, the Who, Stones and Kiss in 1976 in London. Must agree about the ELP Love Island album, just terrible, and I am a massive fan, but that was a big mistake!! Thanks again Pete for the channel and brightening up my day. Best wishes from the UK.
Martin is golden, Pete and Martin, dynamic duo
Revolution by Night is amazing imho. Super underrated.
Pete, I am so surprised you didn't mention The Final Cut! Although I like that album, it was a big bomb coming off of The Wall
Thank you, “Pete” and “Martin” for your opinions, about album bombs. I agree, with some of your picks. 🎤🎸🎵🎹🥁
The Revolution By Night: I don't hate it, and in fact, I rather like it. Shooting Shark is one of my favorite Buck songs in the BOC catalog. Club Ninja, on the other hand...
I agree. I think "Revolution By Night" is one of BOC's best albums.
Speaking of that VHIII album, my local record shop years back had a box labeled "free" where they'd chuck a few CDs from the bargain bin that had been gathering dust for years, and they just wanted to get it the hell out of the store. One day I'm in there, and they had a used copy of VHIII in there. I hesitated, because I love VH, have almost all the other albums, but I knew how bad this album was. Again: I hesitated at taking home a free CD from a band I love. I still have it, mind you, but I've listened to it once. My god, what a slog. The UA-camr Todd In The Shadows features this album on one of his "Trainwreckords" segments, and his commentary sums up the album perfectly.
Martin! Sweet shirt man! I love NoMeansNo. One of the best shows I've had the pleasure of attending. They were such a great band and an excellent discography. I wore my Wrong shirt until it was ribbons.
III Sides is a sublime album, Extreme should be very proud of that masterpiece, they can at least say they didn't try to chase hit singles.
Great comment! This album is ART! Nuno is amazeballs!
Hi Pete, I enjoy your videos. Both you and Martin gel very well together. One I wanted to mention was Genesis and their “Calling All Stations” effort. Released in 1997, it was their first without lead singer Phil Collins. The album had one radio single “Congo”, but fans didn’t want a new lead singer.
I just recently picked up Revolution by Night. Funny thing is that i never had even heard of it. I also never gave that self titled Motley Crue album a full listen until earlier this year, and it's really good!
Surprised nobody has mentioned "The Wreckage" from Tygers of Pan Tang. Similar situation to Starz, except they then doubled down in '87 with "Burning In the Shade".
I'm not sure, but I think that ELP album cover was an intentional pastiche of the BeeGees. Could be wrong, though. I love these failure analysis vids. It's fun to examine failures in movies, consumer products, business blunders, and especially tanked albums.
No, from what I have read ELP were genuinely trying to have more commercial success at the time and the way the cover turned out was part of that. The cover was photographed in the Bahamas where they recorded the album.
Carl Palmer has said since that he hates the cover, I don’t think there was any satirical or tongue in cheek intention at the time. People have made fun of it or compared it to the Bee Gees over passing years.
I like the talk about the weather!
The 1st song of VH 5150 is called “Good Enough"…is this the song that Martin was trying to remember? He had me laughing through most of his picks 😂
Yes, Jesus Christ, ridiculous. This is your first Van Hagar song?!
Like he was trying to be Roth on that song with all the hello babe stuff,5150 pretty cool but I thought it was different band to Roth lead one,and yes van Halen 111 awful ,and Eddie singing lead vocals mega guitarist but vox are bad
I think Martin is referring to "Source of Infection" which is on OU812... the one with hardly any words... "Hey!" "Alrite!" "Woo!", etc...
HELLOW BAAAAABY
i die everytime lmao
After hearing the story of Emerson, Lake & Palmer, i find myself wondering if Lake ever considered reuniting with King Crimson? …
That extreme cd is one of my favorite and saw them in concert for that cd mike from dreamtheater was the drummer at the time
Savatage has given us so much great music. But the album "'Fight for the Rock" was a total bomb
So true blame Atlantic Records. Most of these songs were written for other bands/artists but the band were told to do them and release them. "Out On The Streets" was rerecord from "Sirens" and 2 covers. I remember this time very well almost broke them up.
The only redeeming thing about that album I'd say is it caused the band to reevaluate themselves, and subsequently give us the Savatage we know and love.
Faith No More's burst out to Platinum certification on their 3rd album (1st with vocalist Mike Patton), "The Real Thing" with the help of single "Epic". The follow up, "Angel Dust", went only to Gold even though I feel it's actually a superior album.
Faith No More comes off as a goofy novelty band, so no surprise the novelty wore off quickly (and the 90's was full of goofy "alternative" bands that came and went very fast).
Angel dust is an incredible album, was very highly rated at the time.
I want to see Martin do his Mick Fleetwood impression more often. 🤑
Was listening to attention shoppers today and x-ray spex and good ale we seek are rocking classic tracks!
Hell being a huge Queen fan, i was pissed they took to another direction and added synthesizer. Wow what a heavy blow to the die hard fan. The Game was the beginning of the end. Like you said Martin there was only two to three good songs on each album from that point on. When I heard Hot Space immediately went outside and used it as a frisbee
"Used it as a frisbee" haha. Least you got some enjoyment out of that album.
Wow!Queen have been my favorite since 1980.so Hot Space was the first time I was able to buy a new studio album by my favorite band.At least Hot Space still..to me anyway..sounds like a proper album,unlike A Kind Of Magic.
AKOM was a big dissapoinment to me.To me its just part Iron Eagle soundtrack part Highlander soundtrack.And it certainly doesn't help that my absolute three least favorite Queen songs are on it...One Year of Love..ugh!!!Hell,that song doesn't even have ANY Brian May guitar on it!Instead,we get a saxophone solo.WTF?
I caught that Come Taste 👅 The Band and then Martin’s tee hee- ing afterwards ( just so ya know Pete 😝 lol; but I think you’re right on the 💰. I absolutely thought it was a’yacht rock’ Lp and needed to check twice as I didn’t get the impression it was ELP.!! This weekend is turning into just one big SOT marathon of all your previous episodes; so if you’re seeing commentary for different shows? That’s Y. Going on day 4 now and counting! 😉 Sincerely yours, DJP Boston Massachusetts USA 🇨🇳 of course eventually.
Really loving these podcasts. I especially like the fact that you guys are talking more generally in the music scene, not just heavy metal (which I love) these listed will help me seek out some overlooked gems. Keep up the great work! Btw, Pete, where are you from in the Hudson valley? I’m a Rockland guy myself. Be well guys, this is great stuff!
Stone Roses - " Second Coming " 1994. after famous debut from 1989 .
About VH3: I think that what Gary Cherone is missing on that album is Nuno's backing vocals. Their 2 voices work super well together. Maybe if Michael Anthony had given more backing, it would have worked better...Great show!
The only missing thing on that album are good songs in my opinion
There are so many similar sound effects between 'Hot Space' and Michael Jackson's 'Thriller', which was released 6 months after.
Well the story we hear in the UK of Queen's decline in the US was not only Hot Space but the video to I Want To Break Free. The American public didn't like the cross dressing video. Us Brits got it because it was actually Freddie's take on a great British institution, the soap opera Coronation Street
Truth is , that video never really played here at all. It was a well-promoted hit everywhere but in the US. The US decline was simply due to zero promotion in the US after Hot Space and no tours for either The Works or A Kind of Magic. When they finally had a well-promoted hit again in '89 with I Want it All, Freddie was too sick to tour, and America was begging for a tour by that point.
My problem with Attention Shoppers speaking as a HUGE Starz fan, is that I could never find it when it came out. It was never in stock at any of the record stores.
Stupid record stores and their weak-ass selection! Plenty of Air Supply in racks-no hard rock! Tower Records was my OASIS! God I miss it! Attention Shoppers, while poppier, was still in constant rotation on my turntable-great hooks and songcraft! Just downloaded Coliseum Rock from I tunes-wasn't going to pay thirty-four thousand dollars for the actual c.d.! And it R O C K S !!! Great band-Starz is a secret gift to all hard rock fans who are in the know! Peace.
Love Beach looks like it was a record meant for Pablo Cruise
The impossible question of 'best song ever' is a trite debate however i think you can make an argument for 'Under Pressure' being the best song in popular music, I'm by no means saying it is but you can make a convincing argument for it i feel. I agree with Pete, I never tire of hearing it.
Not in my top 100,000!
The bass line alone throws 80’s flashbacks like very few songs can
ELP Album cover is so funny. Looks Like ELP merging with Baywatch. Was David Hasselhoff the lead singer?
Voïvod ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuules! They're so great! Saw them on "The Wake" tour, still awesome!
I've been a fan since their first album (I'm old...) and think they're doing their best work now!!
I think the album that Psycho Circus has the most in common with is Yes', Union.. In both cases we were sold on the notion of a reunion album, when in fact they weren't and it was apparent to the fans. However I did attend the tours for both albums and the tours were exactly what we hoped for, at least in my humble opinion.
Good show! Genesis - Calling all Stations was definitely bombing big time. Another one that springs to my mind: U-Vox by Ultravox after having lot of good singles on the albums before.
Oh yes, as a long term die hard Genesis fan, who despite much preferring the Peter Gabriel years, actually even enjoyed We Can't Dance, thanks to songs like Fading Lights, Driving the Last Spike and a bunch of others. And when Calling All Stations came out, it was such a huge, enormous disappointment.
I had completely forgotten about U-vox!I remember being a little mad that I had spent 7 dollars on it and was hoping to hear lots of synths and electric violin.I still don't have that one on CD and don't know if I ever will.
I also was dissapointed with Ingenuity.At the time that I bought it,i didn't know that the only Ultravox guy in that line up was Billy Currie.But it is better than U-Vox.
@@adamsmashups4839 I never even bothered with U-Vox. I think the only good song on that is "All in One Day". Did you try "Brilliant" from 10 years ago?
@@matma84 I had forgotten about Briliant.Midge Ure actually played Kansas City a couple of years a go.It was just him and acoustic guitar.I never ever thought Midge would play the USA again and I still can't believe that he played just a few miles from me.I am jealous of the UK fans that get to seee him on his next tour where he will be playing an all electronic set(heavy on the synths).
@@adamsmashups4839 I have seen him play with Ultravox on on the European leg of the reunion tour in 2010 in Munich. They did a great set with the 4 classic 80s albums, being in fine form. On Brilliant I did not like the vocals, the mix of them seemed odd and Midges voice sounded tired. There were a few songs I liked like the "Live Again" or "Satellite" but it was not the great comeback I would have wished for. I see, maybe I will catch him again in Germany.
Great show! Thanks
For the Van Halen III. .. Gary wasn't trying to be anything. Ed was in charge (manipulating) of everything as he was in a very dark place personally.
Gary had said in some interviews that Ed playing in certain keys that was stretching his voice.
Yes. Gary was just a hired voice. Ed didn't care about vocals or singers; just knew he needed one.
The other thing about III is that it was sort of an experiment of sorts. They wrote all the lyrics first then added music afterwards. That was very contrary to what they've always done where Ed would come up with the licks; him and Al would create the arrangement; then add lyrics.
VH supposedly had another album with Gary that was mostly completed, and it was said that it was more of the style of traditional Van Halen. But the record label gave the band to get back with Sammy or Dave or they were dropping them because sales for III were so bad.
Hopefully someday we'll get to hear the supposed next album with Gary.
Love unusual heat. Its contrarian but this is my best foreigner album.
Calling All Stations by Genesis
I think Metallica's 'Load' fits into this topic. While the Black album started a huge commercial shift for the band, it wasn't until the following album where the guys shifted their sound dramatically and turned off a lot of Metallica fans. Personally, I don't mind 'Load,' but it's a huge downfall from their debut and 'Ride the Lightning.'
Good call. I love load and don’t think they have topped it since.
'Load' is a 5x Platinum album (or something silly like that). Hardly a 'bomb' no matter how much the purists hate it.
Pete's face whenever punk is discussed
His nose starts to twitch. Reminds me a little of Inspector Clouseau's boss in the Pink Panther films. 😅
Acts pretty much the same way with Motley Crue and also GNR
To be fair punk barely sold any records in America (look at the charts, a couple Clash records did alright and that was about it for Punk commercially in the the US) Also, punk was most popular with later Baby Boomers (those born in the early 60's). Punk was completely dead by 1985, when Gen X was the main driver for musical trends (the soaring popularity of metal in the late 80's is due to Gen X). Disco and punk: Boomers. Metal and New Wave: Gen X.
Because historically punk had its time and place between the mid and late70’s when England was in crisis, and there were lots of riots and protests, workers strikes and cabinet disapproval from the people. Say what you want but when Margaret Tatcher brought things back on track, punk was unnecessary. She thankfully throw it away from relevancy. Punk was the voice of the street and the profanity. [ on the topic,Jordan Peterson has an amazing lecture about the differences between art and propaganda, it’s brilliant]. So when things came back to normal, punk was unnecessary, it didn’t stand the test of time. Unlike heavy metal which is always relevant.
And Guns’n Roses suck balls. Always have, alway will.
@@metalstorm7506 This is utter nonsense. Music is not a sociological treatise. It is melodies and chords and rhythms. The term punk is meaningless, as are all genre terms. There is no real difference between, say, a UK Subs song, a Who song or a Carpenters song. They all use common elements.
When I first heard the records coming out of the 'punk' scene, I was 12, 13, 14, living in a remote town in Northern Australia and completely unaware of the political landscape that lay behind those bands. I loved and still love the music. The tunes, the performances. Everything else is just scribbling in the margins.
Music has nothing to do with relevance. Melody and rhythm is outside of temporal politics. And if you don't understand that, then you are not reacting to music as music, but rather as a tool in your identity.
The critique early on about Starz, tying in Angel with that whole Kiss marketing plan not working then a whole group of band going wishy washy like Moxy, Montrose was right on. It makes me think back to when I started expanding to other bands in the 70s, I found early Judas Priest, early AC/DC, Scorpions with Uli Jon Roth, late 70s UFO. All of a sudden. I pretty much spent money on a whole new group of bands.
I just rewatched this episode. I like the fact that you didn’t bash VH3 for the vocals. Gary did an amazing job at that but, as Pete said, the band sounded tired. There were things happening in the band as well. The Live tour for the album however was one of the most memorable concerts I’d seen because Gary did songs from every genre of VH. And he could sing them well.
Extreme didn’t read the room. They simply sold albums on a couple of great ballads. Most people who bought the previous album didn’t like the album much beyond the singles.
Ha ha, nice analysis - "read the room."
I worked at a major record chain at the time and we tracked everything. "Pornograffiti" was BY FAR the most returned album ever for us. I loved it, but the little girls didn't understand anything with an electric guitar.
The Final Cut by Pink Floyd was my biggest bummer 😢
600th thumbs up from me. Peace out from the Southern Tip of Vancouver Island, B.C. CANADA
Sting - Mercury Falling
R.E.M. - New Adventures in Hi-Fi
Squeeze - Frank (which is actually, I think, a better album than their previous album, Babylon and On, but not nearly as successful, commercially)
Split Enz - Conflicting Emotions
Elvis Costello - Mighty Like a Rose
Cutting Crew - The Scattering
Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute
Duran Duran - Liberty
Fun show! MARDI GRAS by CCR, and the most inconsistent group of all-time - Wishbone Ash, with WISHBONE FOUR, LOCKED IN, and FRONT PAGE NEWS, all following great albums. The Beach Boys' CARL AND THE PASSIONS after SUNFLOWER and SURF'S UP.
"3 Sides To Every Story" is great! I'm also a big fan of "Waiting For The Punchline". "Shadow Boxing" is a great song. And, the Motley Crue s/t is damn good as well.
I’m weird because Love Beach is one of my favorite ELP albums along with Pictures at an Exhibition.
Marty holds off on Cut The Crap one more time
What I think might be a topic to cover is albums that did well, but wonder why.
I hated 'Hot Space' when it came out but I've warmed to one half of it enormously. I absolutely love the Freddie-dominated dance tracks. For my money they feature some of his all time best vocals. If they'd done the whole record in that style I'd rate it so highly.
I like only 5 songs on Hot Space, and I have given it so many chances. Back Chat, Action This Day, Put Out the Fire, Life is Real and Under Pressure.
Hot Space - Las Palabras, yeah, I liked it alot, and Life is Real. I also quite enjoyed Action this Day and even had a thing for Cool Cat, they kinda had that quirky thing that stuff like Seaside Rendezvous or Bring Back that Leroy Brown, although not nearly as good, but Under Pressure quickly became overplayed. The rest of the album was a tragic head-scratcher because it was just so diametrically different than all those "No Synthesizers" classic albums.
Golden Earring - Switch. After Moontan they were ready to conquer the world, but Switch was a real damp squib which practically no one remembers.
Really I love Switch
I just recently bought a vinyl copy of Switch...nowhere close to a Moontan
"Kill Me" was a hit here in the Benelux (ok, not much after the mega hit of Radar Love). Switch is in my Top 3 fav Golden Earring albums.
@@purpletemple1 kill me ce soir is the one good track on the album. Very disappointing after Moontan. I've got all their late 60's to late 70's albums, and switch is by far the least played in my house.
ELP could have featured on 'The Love Boat' with a cover like that. I'd given up on them after 'Works Volume 1'. Their apotheosis was essentially in the early 70's as it was for many bands of that era. 80's Queen is hard to digest after their 70's greatness. The 80's has a lot to answer for. Great choices gents.
I never really thought Under Pressure was that good of a song. Really don’t care for the scat singing and finger snaps and all that. It’s a little cheesy and lightweight, but seems like most people love that song. And obviously many love it because of the live-aid and Mercury/Bowie connection. But really taking off the nostalgia goggles I don’t find it to be that impressive.
Primal scream changed radically from stones type rock to techno
Saw moxy round '83 in a mid sized 🇨🇦 town in a small bar with 2 other bands that were influenced by Priest or Van Halen 😂😂🤟🤟🤟🤟great days !! Maybe even still selling quarts drinking from the bottle they popped the top for you 🤣🤣🤟🤟
I've still never heard that Van Halen album, even though they were one of my favorite bands a few years prior. I'll have to check out the Extreme album.
Judas Priest- both "Demolition" and "Nostradamus", Iron Maiden-both "No Prayer For The Dying" and "Virtual XI", Saxon- "Destiny", Megadeth- both "Risk" and "Super Collider", Anthrax- "Stomp 442", C.O.C.- "Americas Volume Dealer", Celtic Frost- "Cold Lake," Discharge- "Grave New World", Anti-Nowhere League- "The Perfect Crime"
Cold Lake was fantastic! A total middle finger to the hair metal that was eating up the charts.
I actually liked Megadeth's "Risk" album even though some would put it in this category.
MANY would put it in that category! Risk would be considered heavy - if it were made by The Bay City Rollers. This is not what Dave does best, way too commercial and watered down.
Nice show.Maybe Part 3 ? It would be nice.
This was a great show I could write a five page report about it but I won’t .bravo guys ! Two quick points I never knew that foreigner album existed and attention shoppers just killed them
Roger Taylor's 'Action This Day' on "Hot Space" is an awesome song.
I had the Starz albums in the seventies. Great band!
Martin's savage critique of Psycho Circus was my favorite part of this episode; made me laugh my ASS off!!! Had tears in my eyes...and this is coming from someone who actually loves the album. I came to it FAR later than most, and under different circumstances, but I get why many fans have a huge problem with it.
Yes, I love that Extreme album. My favorite from them.
Most Kiss stuff post-Lick it Up is kind of so-so, to be honest. Interesting about the rave for Revenge though, an album so obviously thought out to be 'heavy just to be cool and tough' it reeks from every song, sadly the material in my opinion just isn't there apart from a few songs. Produced by the same guy who's turned Deep Purple into a rather safe sounding band, why not apply the same 'dangerous' sound there.
@@TheTVisions For the most part, I actually agree with your overall assessment, and understand what you are saying. With that said, strange as it may seem, Lick it Up was never one of my top personal favorites. I mostly agree about Revenge; many seem to like it because it's 'heavier' and 'grittier' (particularly when compared to the slicker productions of the two albums preceding it) but, 'heavy' in and of itself is not enough of a draw for someone like me; many of the songs on Revenge leave me a bit cold. The final two albums don't do much of anything for me, and same goes for Hot in the Shade. The much maligned Carnival of Souls I find to be ok (not excellent, though.)
I think both Gary and Van Halen tried to do something different from their past times. Though it's not remarkable, I find it more interesting than the "glam-like" Hagar era songs.
I would put in Cheap Trick - All Shook Up. Following up the mega hit, Dream Police, All Shook Up seemed to be forgotten by the general public. I personally love All Shook Up (except for Who D King). This album had a different sound than Dream Police, but it still really rocks.
I always think of Motley Crue’s S/T and Skid Row’s Subhuman Race as “sister albums”…both have a very dense, maxed out production (by the same producer) with a running time that’s a bit too long, both have a band trying to stretch out of their comfort zone a bit, and both were the bands’ first step off of the cliff into commercial free fall.
Nice description of production on these two, very rockin' and aggressive albums, both of which I like a lot. Love Skid Row's turn to heavyosity after limp debut ( a few good rockers on it) and Slave To The Grind and Subhuman Race cracked skulls (still wish Sebastian had gone back to Skid Row) and really liked Crue's album with excellent John Corabi. A whole lotta Crue fans swear by this album and I am one of em'. Vince Neil held band back with his lack of........singing. Commercially though, yeah, they both could only be purchased in the Bermuda Triangle! Cruel fate.
One of the most undervalued hard rock bands who rock fans would really dig=STARZ! The debut and Violation are CRANK-WORTHY and I would fight an alligator if he tried to steal em'.
I agree with the Extreme album, it's a great album and it's a shame it flunked, Extreme are a great band.