MERCEDES 190E | WHAT WHEELS FIT
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2020
- To give you an idea of what wheels could work for your build, we are trying on four (4) different sets of wheels on the 1991 Mercedes-Benz 190E.
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Hey,
just wanted to share: 205/50 r16 with 7x16 ET37 wheels fits with no problems on my standard ( not lowered ) 190E 2.0 MY 1990 ✌🏼
Thanks for sharing the insight!!! Much appreciated!!
Music choice is 🔥, good information and presentation. Thank you 👍🏽👍🏽✌🏽
Thanks very much for the compliment! And, thanks for watching!! 🙏
Subscribed because all 3 of my 190e's told me too. 👍 NYC!!! 😷🤜🤛
Excellent!!! 😀 Thank you for the subscription!!! Congrats on having 3 excellent cars, by the way!
very cool
Cooool video!!!!Coolll Benz!!!!Cool wheels!!!!🤟
I like 129 white color and w203
Nice vídeo
The BBS are an option to hahah
In my opinion the best still the '15 for 190
Simple and beauty
The '17 EVO II and '16 EVOI looks amazing too
Thanks, Cesar Pires! Agreed - BBS wheels will always be an epic option!!
Bbs look good on all old European cars
Lovely car😍👌
Thank you for the kind word! I agree that Mercedes created a beautiful design. I wish they would reproduce this car - just as it first hit the show-rooms back in the 80's!!
Great video
Thank you for the compliment! 😄 I wanted to create a video where viewers could really get a sense for how a wheel might fit, look, and perform on the 190E 2.6. 🤔 Thank you for watching and for commenting! 👍 🙏 Hope this helps with your own build!
20 21 Легенда мерседес 190Е 👍✊😎😎
One of my favorite Benz!
The best one ever - in our humble opinion!!! 😊
@@TankMouseProductions I have one sitting up that I will start giving MUCH love! I got that itch badly!
It's a thick girl, but we like them that way. ( don'T tell my mother!)
Any progress? @@mr.h.8363
@@andrewleonberger7477 Lol
You forgot the 8 hole wheels from r129 (8*16 et34) for rear and 7.5*16 et 42 from w210 for front. Fits perfectly
Thanks for taking the time to comment! I don't have those wheels in my collection; so, I could not feature them! 😁
@@TankMouseProductions I have them on my 190e 2.6 with 205/50 on the front and 225/45 in the back. Fits perfectly, looks OEM and classy 🙂
Nice vid big man what headlights are those on your 190e I tired to find circle ones and currently I’m just making new headlights but those look great
If you are talking about the yellow headlights, those were actually some ebay finds from about 12 years ago. As far as I can tell, they have been discontinued. I am looking forward to seeing the headlights that you are making!
Cleeeeeean
Thank you for the kind words!! 🙏
Nice video! Also that bodykit is clean asf is that just the 2.3-16 kit? I wanted to get something like that for my 93 190e when I get it fixed up.
You spotted it correctly; the body kit is the OEM kit from my old 2.3-16. Thanks for watching, by the way!! And, please feel free to reach out with any questions.
I agree! A skate board and some yoga is needed to keep it dirt free.
17"😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Very informative, great job.
Is there any rubbing on the 16x8 wheels with the 205?
Im looking at a set but on an16x8 wheel people recommend 215 minimum width on the 8", do you have any problems running the stretched tires? ie cornering?
Thank you for the compliment! With the 16x8 SL wheels and the 205-45-16 shown in this video, there is no rubbing. Granted, that is primarily because the car is still raised high enough in relation to that wheel/tire combination. If you were to lower it beyond than what you see in this depiction, you would probably encounter some rubbing issues. Regarding the stretch, there is a bit of stretch; but, it is relatively mild. I did not have any issues with the set up when I was running those wheels/tires.
I hope that is helpful to you. Please feel free to reach out with any questions. If I don't know the answer, I am sure I can help you find an answer!
Good luck with your set up!! Make sure to post up a video!! 👍
@@TankMouseProductions much appreciated
Awesome video!
Would you say your current setup is your favorite? I've got 205/50 now on the CLK wheels on Kumhos and I def felt the weight difference even from the BBS 16x7.5 I had on before.
I need new tires for the 190 and was toying with the idea of running the 203 wheels on the car with 215/40 but I don't want to add too much weight. Just picked up a staggered set of the 203 wheels to run on my c124 but I'm tempted to run them on the 201...
Visually, with the body kit on it, the 17" wheels are my favorite. With the body kit, in my opinion, it needs the 17" wheels to balance it all out. That is, of course, personal preference.
However, in terms of the performance, then there is no comparison to the CLK wheels. Like you noted, the weight difference and comfort factor are immediately felt. Plus, with less weight, the brakes don't have to work as hard to stop the centrifugal force. That variable is also very noticeable when switching from the CLK wheels to the 17" 203 wheels. The only downside is that I have been told that the CLK wheels bend without too much provocation. Thankfully, I have been able to avoid the worst of the potholes and curbs!
That is my $0.02 anyways. You get what you paid for. 😉
And, thanks for watching!!
@@TankMouseProductions awesome dude! OK I'm gonna stick with my original plan then and keep the 16" CLK wheels on the 201. Like you said the braking and acceleration differences are so good with the light weight. Since I already have 215/45 tires on my c124 I'll just switch over to the better looking 203 wheels (fake AMG wheels on there at the moment lol).
Now I'm trying to decide between the Dunlop ZIII spec tires for the CLK wheels or just get all seasons because winter is coming ❄️😄
@@Wookieboner Right on! Make sure to post a film of both of your rides - and include a link here so we can all check it out! 👍
@@TankMouseProductions okay! 😂
Am i glad i found you cause I have a question...
What tire size do you figure if i was switching to the 7J 16" ET37 rims from the W203?
Your insight would be very much appreciated
I had luck with mounting a 205/50/16 tire. But, it is hard to say without knowing whether your car is lowered and whether you are running fender spacers. Also, the answer may depend on the manufacturer, and whether the tire comes with "rim protectors." I know that is not much of an answer. But, perhaps it will help you determine what other questions to ask. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
thank you
If this video was at all useful to you, then that is awesome! 👍
@@TankMouseProductions it was , really made me buy 17" ones
I would love to see them with AMG Monoblock rims. We used to have a set from c36.
You and me both!! The AMG Monoblocks just look SO right on the 190E!!
Will this size on Amg monoblock would work too?
Just bought my first mercedes 190e 2.6 - 1990. And really looking into rims !! Specially AMG
How many coils cut up front and any fender spacers or fender rolling with the 17x8.5? I ordered some 17x8.5 JNC 004 with ET +15 do you know if that offset would put the wheel more out of the car or into the car?
Depending on how much you drop the car, and depending on how much you are stretching your tires, may determine how much fender rolling you need to do. Also, you might try to find an offset calculator on google, but, I think with ET +15 you will be pushing the wheel further out towards the fender - away from the suspension. Here is a calculator that seems to be helpful: tiresize.com/wheel-offset-calculator/
I did not roll the fenders on the car you see in the film, but I really need to do so! I believe that this car is running a fender spacer (maybe 1/2" thick). In my opinion, polyurethane fender spacers are overkill. After all, it is a glorified piece of rubber with a hole in the middle.
Hope that helps! By the way, your new wheels are going to look fantastic!
hello! I just bought these same wheels and they are poking out a little. Did you ever figure out a way to make them poke less? Do you have an Instagram or something where I can see how your car looks? Please let me know I would really appreciate this!
how was running the 17x8.5 with the 215/40 tires? Lots of rubbing on a stock body / no kit. I'm thinking of running that setup but 45 sidewall instead + amg fender spacer kit and go as low as i can without rubbing.
Had I not lowered the car this much, I really would not have much trouble with rubbing. I will tell you that the big heavy wheel with the small tire will, obviously, result in reduced ride comfort!
Nicce video do you have also whit 17 or 18 weels?
I do not have any white wheels. But, I often think that the 17" wheels I have here would look pretty cool painted gloss white. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
Dont u have to change the suspension to be more stiffer depending on the rim and tire since the oem suspension springs are softer?
That is a good question. I would say, in theory, yes. While I will not go so far as to speak conclusively on every car and suspension set up, I can speak definitively on my own experience with the 190E 2.6 that I have owned since 2009. My experience has been that the stock springs on the 2.6 are already relatively stiff. I say that becase, when I first installed the Bilstein Sport shocks on the front and rear, I was running 195/65/15 Michelin HydroEdge tires; and, I was very surprised on the stiffness and stability of that set up with the stock springs that were cut down a bit. When I switched to 215/40/17, it was, admittedly, a very rough ride. But, because I like the wheel set up so much, I was willing to sacrifice some comfort. With all of that said, and to go back to your question, in the case of the 190E 2.6, I did not need to install stiffer springs to achieve excellent handling and performance quality. But, I did need to upgrade to the Bilstein Sport Shocks.
I hope that was somewhat helpful to you! Thank you for your comment!
great video... I need to be that person that asks....what's your suspension set up?
I am very glad that you asked. Bilstein shocks paired with r129 mounts in front. Bilstein shocks for a SAAB 900 in the rear. The springs are stock 1991 190E 2.6 springs cut to fit. For the part numbers for the Bilstein shocks and the shock mounts, you can check out this video that I made: ua-cam.com/video/s_WG6xGZ9qs/v-deo.html The set up for the 1986 190E 2.3-16 was very similar to the 1991 190E 2.6. However, i obviously did not go quite as low with the 1991 190E 2.6.
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out. After all, that is what this is all about - helping the community design and build their dreams!!
@@TankMouseProductions Thank you, I appreciate the help! I have just recently picked up a '92 190 2.3-8 for cruising/roadtrips. this will help get it sitting pretty for hopefully this spring.
@@JB_Photos Awesome!! Are you new to the 190E family? If so, then WELCOME!! 👍 Make sure to post a film of your car when you get it all done!
@@TankMouseProductions Yes, I been involved with aircooled cars mostly and recently got into a 190. Hope you had a great new years btw.
Can i install 18"rims on w201 and do you have any problem and what's the best tyre size for it thanks.
You can run 18" wheels on a w201. But, you would also be running 35-series tires or less - depending on whether you want to lower the car. It might be an okay set up for car shows, etc. But, to be candid, it would be pretty uncomfortable for a daily-drive set up. Hope that is helpful to you as you weigh your options! Thank you for watching and commenting!!
is the tyres wall hit the body? mine got h&r kit with 7.5 17" 205/45 and in 40 km/h the tires hit the body
Yes; if the car is loaded down with passengers. Or, if I hit a dip in the road, then there will be some rubbing. However, to enjoy your 190E, you certainly don't need to lower your car as much as I lowered mine. Thank you for watching, by the way!
Are you running any hub centric rings on the 17x8.5? Spacers? Can 17x7.5 still work bro?
The hubs from the w203 match the w201. So, you might say that the wheels are already hub-centric. Thus, no rings required. They are a perfect fit. The 17 x 7.5 wheels also work. I actually ran 7.5 in the front before installing the 8.5. Here is a link to the video from when I was running the 7.5 on the front: ua-cam.com/video/0wUrL3uaemY/v-deo.html
@@TankMouseProductions Okay. Goodlooking bro! 💪🏼 Much love from CO. Thanks again for your help!! 🙏🏼
Friend, can I use a 9" rims at the back? My rims opel insignia steelies 😊
Sorry for the late response here. Your wheel's offset is going to be more crucial in determining whether you can run the wheel than the wheel's actual width. I hope that is helpful. Please feel free to reach out with any questions. I will try to do better about responding in a more timely fashion!
Can you please let me know where I can find a kit similar to the one you have ? Been struggling to find one from a reliable source
I am sorry; I do not know where to tell you to look. I got this kit from my old 2.3-16. I am not sure if anyone makes a replica kit. Can anyone else reading this offer any insight????
considering 17x7.5j with ET35 and 215/40/17 for front and 8.5j with 215/40/17 for rear. My car is 40mm lowered. Based on my calcs it will fit without any rubbing and scrubbing but not 100% about the rear hitting the suspension. Any ideas or suggestions?
Is the rear wheel also ET35? If so, then I also think you would be fine - based on the other specs you shared.
@@TankMouseProductions Thanks for the feedback. I have been running for 2 years on w140 gullideckels. 16x7,5j ET51 with spacers ofcourse. 10mm at the front and 20mm rear. That looked very neat but want to take it to next level this summer and fit 17s.
@@thebenzsquad4668 For sure - 17" version of that design would be totally rad!
@@TankMouseProductions there is a compamy actually that makes the gullis in 17 inch.
@@thebenzsquad4668 Oh, I know - and I want them! 😀😀
Please does a 7,5X17 rims ET49 with tires of 235x45 will fit on my W201?
And if not, why ?And what changes do I need ?
Can't say that I know for certain. Is your W201 stock height - or is it lowered? Does anyone have a similar set up by which they can offer any wisdom?? Perhaps the community here can help find you some helpful information!
@@TankMouseProductions Yes it will be helpful.
My car is stock height.
Tomorrow I will get my answer.
How do you hit any bumps without rubbing? Even a pebble?
If the wheels are turned pretty far to one side, then you are absolutely correct - the tires are likely to rub. Depending on the size of the pebble, the rubbing may be more or less severe. 😉 This film was definitely intended to be descriptive - as opposed to being prescriptive. One certainly does not need to go this low to enjoy their 190E to the fullest.
Thank you very much for watching and for taking the time to comment! It is much appreciated!
I wish I could find a well-made EV0-1 kit. I’d like a lower wider stance without that huge wing on the trunk like the EV0-2.
I absolutely agree with you. I think the EVO 1 kit is the best, most-balanced kit for the car. The EVO II is just a little too much for the car's lines, in my opinion.
I was think of putting on a 17,7.5 on my 1991 Mercedes Benz 190e I just wasn’t sure if it would rub the insides of my finder?
That is a good question. Other factors to consider when making the determination would be the offset of the wheel, the profile of the tire, whether your car has been lowered (and how far), and whether you are running any fender spacers. I hope that is helpful. I would be more than happy to provide assistance as you run your calculations.
@@TankMouseProductions Yeah I found some that was in that size and I just wasn’t sure if it would effect anything like scraping or bouncing because my car has the factory 15 inch rims
@@damianpasour you might be able to make the 17s work - if they have the proper offset.
Where can you find updated replacement headlights for the 190e?
I found these on ebay. Depo brand. I am VERY pleased with them. Legit quality. They feel like they are a genuine Mercedes manufactured part.
Where did you source the cosworth bumper, side skirts, and rear bumper ?????????
I actually had a 1986 Cosworth - and I pulled everything from that car. Other than some slight modification to the inside of the front bumper - which had to be recessed a bit to accommodate the 2.6 auxiliary fans in front of the radiator - everything was a direct fit.
Would front 16x8 ET11 and rear 16X9 ET11 fit without rubbing? Thanks in advance!
My guess would be that they would be poking out past the fenders. To give you a visual example, the 17s that I am running in this video are ET 34 - and they are almost flush with the fenders. If you are running fender flares, then you might be alright. Hope that is helpful!
I'm going to attempt the r129 16s with 205 50 16s my car isnt quite as low as yours but close
I actually ran that exact same spec on this exact car a while back - even at this ride height. You should not have any problems. 👍 Thanks for commenting, by the way!
Awesome thanks
Tank Mouse is the lowest invidual I know. Can you post an image of your ride? I would like to hear about your stance, and see your rig.
SLK230 AMG 17 inch alloys with 215/40/17 tyres , Got those on mine now ....
Excellent! What is the offset, if I may ask?? Also, if you have a video, be sure to post a link to it! 👍
@@TankMouseProductions Video on here already .....search...W201 190E RAT ROD ....O yes a rat rod 190 lad !
@@TankMouseProductions W208 or SLK R170 alloys fit as offset is 35 , 17 inch better as cheeper tyres and better choice !
Sticking 18s on my rat rod next week , 5 spoke !
@@curtisducati is this it? ua-cam.com/video/pz87eSXSMUQ/v-deo.html
I have a question,
If i want to add the exact measurements such as R17.
What do i need to look like your amazing car apart from the measurements given?
Lower the car?
Greetings !!
Thank you for the compliment! Yes, basically all I did was lower the car - and I added "fender spacers" on the front of the fenders. Don't get overly concerned about the fender spacers; they are basically pieces of rubber about a 1/2" in thickness placed between the front of the fenders and the frame. Please feel free to reach out with any questions! And, thank you for watching!
At the end im gonna stick to R15 😅 i found just before getting my new merc190e an OZ route 7Jx-5h2 ET 35.
There was no way i was going to pass that luck of getting those rare rims !!
They all are in very good condition 😁
Do you think 205/60 r15 would affect the car ?
@@brianbriceno1692 when you ask if the tire set up would affect the, what do you mean? Having 15" wheels and bigger profile tires will definitely enhance the quality of the ride - certainly more comfortable than the 17" wheels!
@@TankMouseProductions thank you for replying back!
today will add these vintage rims. I will go for 205/60
Today i found out my car doesnt have 118kw but 122kw 🤣
I assumed it had 118kw as the seller mentioned that to me but now checking the official documents it says it has 122kws.
122kws are rarer?
Will et35 r17 with 205 tires fit? With lowered 190?
For the front, my ET34 rims are VERY close to my shocks. While I would think that -1 mm of clearance would not cause an issue, I am not certain. Also, what is your sidewall dimension? I am running 205/40/17 and they clear the shocks and fit inside the wheel well. But, if you are running a bigger sidewall (such as 45), and depending on whether the tire comes with "rim protectors", then they may be wider than my 205/40/17. As far as the rear of the car is concerned, the tire may be fine - depending on how far your car has been lowered - and how much weight you have in the car. I am sorry that does not really answer your question. But, I hope it helps as you think about the best way to approach your own build.
Thanks for watching!! And, thanks so much for commenting!
How low is your 190? 40/40 springs or 60/60?
That is hard to quantify. I started with the stock springs and began cutting coils off until I reached the level where it currently sits. I included the section of this video with the 15" wheels and the 185 tires to give a general reference - as those are the original wheel and tire specs. My thought is that it is somewhere in the neighborhood of 4" shorter than stock height. Hope that helps with your calculations! By the way, thank you very for watching and for taking the time to comment!
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I would sport Tank mouse apearel.
Sorry im dumb, and my spell check is broken.
Unfortunately, I think you are the only one that would be any apparel... thus, there won't be any merch any time soon. I printed up stickers, but only 2 people ordered them. 🙄
What suspension you running??
Bilstein sport shocks in front - for a 190E - with shock mounts from a r129 500SL. Bilstein Heavy Duty for a Saab 900 in the rear. And stock springs with coils cut to fit. Part numbers can be found in this video: ua-cam.com/video/s_WG6xGZ9qs/v-deo.html
does this apply to a 1991 300ce?
I think the bolt patterns are the same. But, I have no idea about the offset. Sorry, my friend that I could not be more help here. 😟
is it possible to run 18s on them?
yes, I have seen them with 18s. That said, to run 18s at the same stance that you see in this film, you would need super-thin 30-series tires. that may be fine if you are just bringing the car to shows. But, not really practical for daily use.
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Thank you very much for the compliment! And, thanks for watching! As you can probably tell, I love the 190E!
dude did you lower your car?? and by how much?
To be frank, I lost track of how far I dropped it. Maybe 4 inches from stock?? Here is a video to basically show you what I did: ua-cam.com/video/s_WG6xGZ9qs/v-deo.html
@@TankMouseProductions thanks dude. I just bought 16 iches for my 190e but i was scared off buying the 17s. I think i might lower it by an inch but that's about it.
Thanks for the video ill give it a look.
Appreciate the reply.
@@billyzahid5904 For sure! Hope that the video I shared is helpful to you. Feel free to reach out with any questions. I am looking forward to seeing a video of your car!
3:56 which rim is this? Someone please help
I can tell you that they came off of the rear of a mid-to-late 2000's era w203 C-Class. I hope that it is helpful!
@@TankMouseProductions thanks but I already look for it can’t find it anywhere selling 🤷🏻♂️
@@Blck_Stallion sorry my friend. On occasion, you see them pop up on ebay. Unfortunately, the prices seem to be creeping up on them.
would 9x17 fit?😬
Probably. But, it would ultimately depend on the offset and how low you want the car to sit. 9" wide wheels would probably need to poke out a bit farther than mine - so to clear the suspension and/or steering components. Hope that is helpful! Thanks for commenting!
Are you another guy that reads forums and takes the credit for it, or do you actually have one of these cars?
Because... your video makes it seem like there is less options for wheel fitment than there actually really is.
I do enjoy reading a good 190E forum. 👍 And, I am sure that there are a LOT more wheels that actually fit a 190E. As for this video, I made it because I had the car, had the wheels, and decided to try them on - in order to show people how they might work on their own 190E. If anyone has found this video helpful, then that makes me very happy. 🙂 Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! 🙏
@@TankMouseProductions oh good. I was worried you were someone who wasn't a car guy stealing views away from real car channels. Like those people who do dash cam reviews only to find out that they mislead you. Be careful on forums, because some guys will say information that's not exactly good, even though it works. For example, the wrong offset on a wheel can work, but in the long run may damage your car. I enjoyed and liked the video before you even responded btw. Well done!
Your video is very, very useful, thank you so much. Now I'm running a CLK set on my w201. Thanks a lot.@@TankMouseProductions
@@juanramonoltra1440 thank you very much for the kind words! It is comments like yours that inspire me to put in the work to make these videos happen! Question for you - where can we find a video of your w201???
@@TankMouseProductions I have no videos of my cars, maybe soon. Thanks for your interest.
They all look like they rub the panel.....one large enough pot hole and its done.
I don't disagree. This video is not prescriptive. Rather, it is descriptive. I prepared it to show what can be done - and not necessarily what should be done. While this stance works for me and my driving style and location, it may not work for everyone.
The car is getting too low. Not quite suitable for general driving.
When running the 15" wheels or the 16" CLK wheels, it is surprising how high the car actually sits. With the 17" wheels with the 40-series tires, however, then it does ride pretty low. Thank you for watching and commenting! 👍🙏 As with all of my videos, I offer this disclaimer - this information is descriptive, as opposed to "prescriptive." 😉