Rudolph Valentino's Voice
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2019
- A documentary style educational video in which I try to recreate or imagine Rudolph Valentino's speaking voice using interviews with his brother Alberto and nephew Jean, and his songs as a reference point. The dialogue I have created is very short; it was both a challenging and fun project. I have also used a snippet of Kashmiri Love Song and the documentary is underscored with Shostakovich - Piano Concerto No. 2: II. Andante
I’m still excited that they found the film beyond the rocks with him and Gloria Swanson. I’m still angry at TCM though they stopped showing good films like his. We need a streaming service that’s all silent and black and white films.
That is a wonderful idea!
Paramount+ has a lot of silent films on there last time I checked.
I think such a platform exists, they only charge $5 a month. Need to find it again as they advertised it on FB recently.
It’s crazy to me how one can be a timeless, international movie star and nobody living knows and no one in the future will ever know what your speaking voice sounds like… so crazy…
I was thinking this very thing.
He didn't do any interviews with reporters?
Once-in-a-lifetime a person like this comes around it'll never happen again
I believe that Rudolph Valentino had a wonderfully husky voice! To hear it would've been heaven! Such charisma!
Apparently his voice was deep and husky but he would also soften it more when talking to women ... although he used bad language with his male friends ... he never swore in female company. To hear Valentino's speaking voice for real ... we can only hope!
There is a voice demo on UA-cam. He's reciting a poem. It's Chrystal clear, and he had a beautiful voice. I think the powers that be saw talkies coming and, thank goodness, recorded a demo. He would have been a bigger phenomenon, if that was possible.
@@amywalker3684 do u have a link
@@amywalker3684 I'm not too sure he would have been bigger because there were other stars coming in that became greater at the field only because they were better actors. It's hard to say how it would have translated. I didn't think his voice was that deep but rather average. He would have done okay with the talkies for sure. Remember though this is when some of the most famous guys in history were coming around. Gary cooper, Clark Gable, Spencer Tracy and these people seem to have more skills at acting. It's just really hard to tell. We can go by Charlie Chaplin as an example . Charlie Chaplin of course was a comic character but nonetheless, when Talkies came out, she wasn't nearly as popular as before. Charlie Chaplin was an absolute genius at direction, production, acting and going to sick he started his own studio with a couple people back in the days when that was crazy to start a studio and try to go against the major ones. United artist. You may have or had not heard of that before but I am pretty sure when you're watching some movie at home in the future, you'll notice the name now that I've tossed it out to you. If you already knew about the story then you understand just how big Charlie Chaplin was. It carried over into talking movies but his Fame diminished because there was much more competition with other multiple types of movies. He was never at the bottom of the heap of course. Rudolph Valentino would have faced more competition with pouring in of actors and actresses from practically everywhere once silent films dissipated. I think when the talking movies came out that this is really when the so-called Golden age began. Generally I've heard actors and actresses and others speak about the Golden age of Hollywood being from 1940 to 1970. It always sounded a little crazy to me because I never would have thought of the '60s being considered part of the golden age
@@amywalker3684 Curious to know if you happen to have the link to this voice demo.
Almost a hundred years later and he’s still handsome. Wow.
He was no Rondo Hatton, but Rudy indeed was one very good looking fellow !
I'm absolutely fascinated with him
Quis dizer emersões do subconsciente.
Nesta existência vivi muitos desdobramentos conscientes ...
Fui medium participando da sociedade secreta
O meu relato pós morte a Natacha diz respeito à minha condição como espírito.
Neste mundo creio nunca ter gostado de autoridade alguma.
E tenho minhas razões.
O MAL que estas sempre trouxe ao planeta e aos homens.
Pretty sure that photographs don't age. The paper might but the image won't. So I think that means he's pretty much going to stay attractive. How did he pass away? I haven't watched the full video
Such a short life. But well lived I hope..
There truly is something special about Rudolph Valentino. Whatever “it” is, he has it 10 fold. I find myself wanting to discover more about him.
What a sweet man , sending that bicycle to his nephew.
Valentino was half italian, half french, he could only be seductive...:)
A breath-taking combination for sure!
i never read anything about him being half french though?
@@unknownknown2078 I have. Her surname was Barbin, which is french, and she was born in a place called Lure, in France; Here's one source, but there are others: www.myheritage.fr/research/collection-10182/sommaires-biographiques-de-personnes-notables?itemId=805762&action=showRecord
@@unknownknown2078 In Europe, being half French and half Italian is very common; I am one of them, although I am not as seductive as Valentino :) Italian immigration is very important in France and the two countries border.. I am not sure you can say that in English; I mean there are next to each other...Parts of France used to be Italian..for example, the town of Nice in the south was a gift from Italy to France; That is why all the names and the dialect there sounds italian;
@@roccop.6373 Yes, he was made in Italy! ;)
Gorgeous man, great voice, he deserved a whole life...very sad and sorry for him.
ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!
I feel like this voice matched him
Thanks .. it's great to hear that :)
@VR G ABSOLUTELY 💯%! 👌 ❤ ♥ 😍 💖 !
The tone of his voice would have further propelled him into an already brilliant career. He acted with his body and facial expressions like no pre-talkies before him and that was electric.
I absolutely agree - I am always amazed when others underestimate or under-rate his acting abilities. There are certain scenes, even in The Conquering Power in which his hand movements are mesmerising and exquisite.
@@ourrudy3209 Absolutely. That combination of beauty and an early death transformed him into a Hollywood legend. But there was and remains so much more - more has been written about his life outside of films ... gossip has dogged his life more than his body of work and some might say that he was a better dancer than he was an actor - I disagree - he deserves to remembered as a man who provoked great passion - and inspired some extraordinary storytelling. It's sad that many will never discover his movies ...
His intensity reminds me somewhat of Al Pacino
Love you very much Mr. Valentino forevermore.
🌹🌹🌹
His Italian accent would likely have damaged any talkie career.
I really enjoyed the interview with Rudolph's brother and nephew. Would be wonderful to hear his speaking voice in a full sentence. My grandmother saw Rudolph Valentino when he and a dancing partner travelled in a show. I think he was low on funds and needed to go on the road for a time. My grandmother said she had the chance to see him in Lowell, Massachusetts at one of theaters in the downtown of Lowell, Massachusetts. She said Rudolph Valentino was as handsome in person as he was in the movies. She also said that there were crowds of people particularly women who showed up when they heard he was going to be performing.
This was great 👍🏽 . Heaven only knows how much I adore Rudolph Valentino. 🥰
I am so glad you like the video and it's great to hear how much Valentino still reaches out across the decades to steal hearts!
OurRudy Of course! I’d love to hear more, because I’ve always wondered what his voice sounded like. And then I found your channel!
OurRudy Freddie Mercury was rudolf reincarnated, makes sense
Very beautiful man and his soul shines through his eyes.
I was not born at the time Mr. Valentino lived, but i have his movies and his singing voice. I wish there had been antibiotics back in the day he may have been cured, he would have made it in the talkies when they started. Absolutely a fanstastic dancer. Thank so much for sharing. Take care and God bless.
Thank you so much for your comments ... you are so right ... and yes, if only antibiotics had been invented ... I always wondered if Valentino would have acted in 30's gangster films or continued with the exotic fantasy roles ... I guess we'll never know what roles he could have played if he'd lived, but I'd love to know what his fans think about that :)
@@ourrudy3209 the first true antibiotic, was discovered by Alexander Fleming, Professor of Bacteriology at St. Mary's Hospital in London in 1928. Had Rudolph NOT continually ignored the pains he was feeling in his stomach area as friends have attested to "Rudolph, GO SEE A DOCTOR ASAP." Valentino wouldn't have collapsed at the Hotel Ambassador, by then it was too late. This man had 'IT' powerful screen presence. He most def would have made it in the talkies, gangster films yeah a few tho I don't think he wanted to be typecast spesh as a gangster. He would have been great in a comedy, IMO. I wish he and Garbo had starred in a pic together a match made in heaven. Charming young man, luv him.
@@gingermurray He and Garbo would have been magic together! Great comment ... I also believe Rudy thought he would only have five years playing credible romantic leads and was planning on character parts ... one director suggested he had great potential as a serious Shakespearean actor ... crying shame he never made it ...
@@ourrudy3209 Thank you! Just picture it, the luminous beauty of Garbo with this GOD starring in a beautiful love story. I adore GG with Gilbert, & Melvyn Douglas they were both on GG level, know what I mean excellent chemistry. But she and Valentino together, OMG they would have set the world on fire. HE would have dominated over her as no othe leading man ever had, IMO..God, if only...
@@gingermurray You make it sound even better than I could imagine .... I just got chills! 👌
His nephew looks a lot like him!!! This was a very well done video! Part of the song he sings...The Relicario...there is a brief section where he seems to stop singing and the lyric is more spoken than sung....Gloria Swanson described his voice as have a lilt and being "Continental" without a heavy Italian accent.
Yes I agree with you ... it's a bit of a surprise when you first really hear it ... catches the breath ... I listen to El Relicario way more than Kashmiri love song for this very reason! Glad someone else noticed!
@@ourrudy3209 I was a piano tuner at one time, so my ear is pretty good, LOL! El Relicario has such a vibrant spirit to it! Last night I listened to a version by a well-known Spanish woman singer as she filmed it in a performance and it paled to Rudy's version. You can tell that Rudy is living this song. The Kashmiri Love Song was his favorite ballad...But El Relicario seems to really stir his soul even more...When you watch the lyrics along with his performance it becomes crystal clear how he is living the story as he sings! (there is a YT video with the lyrics). ua-cam.com/video/f7SnZqLMfKA/v-deo.html at around 2:36 of this video
His nephew was his son, thats why he left Italy so young, the family got rid of him....because it was a scandal in those times, the mother might have bin his sister in law....he left everything for his son, but the brother steeled it all......
@@jannepetersen4660 yes, I learned about this since my original post and have the book which traces a lot of the evidence, but it was not his sister -in-law....more probably the daughter of a close family friend.
Actually Rudy's nephew Jean was born in Italy not America.
He lived in France and Italy when he was little.
Rudy's Mother was French born.
His Father was Italian. And of course Rudi wasborn in Italy.
What a lovely combination!!
He became a US Citizen.
He could well have been Rudy's Son.
Because Rudy did want to adopt him when he was a young boy!
Which does seem unusual.
His voice is beautiful. He was mega talented too as an actor. With training, he was remarkable both as an actor and a singer. He was a natural. I love you Rudolph Valentino.
Yep, all of that talent ... he never had any training as an actor ... though he did pick up 'method' acting from the likes of Alla Nazimova ... he would immerse himself in the character of a part he was to play completely ... which sometimes was very disconcerting for his friends and his wife!
@@ourrudy3209 Rudy was a natural talent. All those dancing and singing and acting were truly God given. He was a quick learner. And he was a gentleman, a good person at heart. That's why he is truly beloved until now.
@@jeanvocalist I totally agree with that ... Rudy had his faults but few people he knew had anything bad to say about him.
@@ourrudy3209 I think Rudy was a softie. I like the fact that he loved children and wanted to have them. It speaks volumes of his good character. He would have been a wonderful father. He was taken far too early. I wish he's here right now. No one , simply no one could even come close to Rudolph Valentino! I adore him.
Oh my gosh ...so very interesting lava..!!
He was an Elvis of the roaring 20's. Women lived him.
Exactly, I think they both favor in some ways, I've always said when i would see a Valentino picture " there's Elvis in the 1920's , and would say when i see Elvis on tv., well " there's Valentino singing" 😃😃👍💝💖
ABSOLUTELY 💯 %!ABOUT RUDY VALENTINO!
His nephew looks alot like him. And judging from all the smiles that the people who are standing next to Valentino, they seem to find him very attractive in voice and face...
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!ABOUT RUDY VALENTINO IS SO GORGEOUS 😍 ❤ 💙 ♥ 💖 ✨!GIOVANNI VALENTINO IS RUDY VALENTINO`S SON FROM 😋 😀 👌 🙌 👍 😄 😋 😀 👌 🙌 👍 😄 ONE OF 😋 HIS 👋GIRLFRIENDS IN 😋 ITALY 🇮🇹 😀 😋 😄 😉 😍 WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER! THAT PROVES THAT RUDY VALENTINO IS NOT GAY!
WHAT AN INCREDIBLE VIDEO. THOSE FEW SECONDS OF HIS VOICE. MY GREAT UNCLE VICTOR WHO DIED AT THE AGE OF 90 RECALLS MEETING RUDY ON TWO OCCASIONS IN DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES, CA WHEN HE WAS ABOUT 23 YEARS OF AGE OR SO, AND HE REMEMBERS HIM TO BE SLENDER, OF MEDIUM HEIGHT, DARK COMPLECTED. HE ALMOST LOOKED LIKE IF HE WERE SOME HANDSOME GUY FROM MEXICO, HE RECALLED. HE SAID HIS VOICE WAS DEEP BUT SOFT, PLEASANT TO THE EAR, BUT THAT HE WOULD MODIFY IT WHEN HE SPOKE TO A WOMAN. BY MODIFY, HE MEANT SOFTEN IT UP AND SPEAK A LITTLE SLOWER WITH LESS TESTOSTERONE. HE ALSO SAID THAT RUDOLPH WAS ENDOWED BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU COULD SEE THE LARGE BULGE IN HIS PANTS. HE FIGURES HE WAS BIGGER THAN EIGHT INCHES, PERHAPS NINE. OH, AND HE ALSO SAID HE WAS VERY INTELLIGENT.
Oh! Thanks ever so much for the compliments on the video! And the eyewitness testimony is like GOLD! So fascinating! Your Great Uncle Victor must have been a cool guy indeed! As for Rudy's endowments ... I did consider doing a video about that but ... would Valentino have been horrified by such a thing or secretly gleeful??? This physical attribute is certainly noticeable in the dressing room stills from Blood and Sand and I have the theory, that part of the film was left on the cutting room floor because of that very factor! I could be wrong of course! I would love to create another voice video but it is soooo difficult! Maybe one day .... once again, thank you for the lovely comments!
@@ourrudy3209 According to actress Gloria Swanson, Rudy was one of the actors who became visibly aroused during love scenes. Supposedly, things were....quite noticable. :)
@@MosaicRose99 He certainly put realism in his love scenes! Do you know where I could find Gloria Swanson's quote on this? I'm researching Valentino's life and witness testimony is invaluable!
@@ourrudy3209 Actually, I read about Gloria's statement from a couple of UA-camrs over the years, but I never saw a direct quote myself. They both stated that Gloria had said there were a couple of actors who would get noticeably aroused during love scenes, one of them was Rudolph Valentino and the other one I believe was Gary Cooper. I wished I had asked exactly where they found her quote though...
@@MosaicRose99 Yeah ... sometimes the trail goes cold ... I hope to get my hands on a decent Swanson biography to see if the quote is there ... I've watched snippets of Swanson interviews but she doesn't really mention Valentino ... what I do know is that the mysteries and controversies surrounding Rudy's life certainly keep fans busy! It's kind of fun hunting things down! :-)
Rudolph Valentino if he had lived would have been a perfect Count Dracula! If you ask me.
He was an amazing actor and women loved him. I was a huge fan of him. I like the slient flim area back in the 1920s and things were different way back then.
That's an interesting idea! He would have been horrifyingly seductive. Recently I was watching Star Wars and thought that Rudy would have made a great Han Solo ... he like action ... and I think he could play the rogue ... his scenes with Princess Leia would have been great ... it would be fun to hear more comments about what roles we fans would cast Valentino in if we could!
Oh yes, I agree. Very seductive Dracula.
Agree, i always see his figure like a dracula.Enigma,handsome, and mysterious .He doesn't need heavy make up.His dark circle eyes is fit for the role.
That's a very good point he would have, very thick accent dark hair and lovely deep dark eyes, somewhat tall...oooohhh perfect.
And, he had those slightly pointed ears... (which apparently had been pinned back because they were said to "flap around like elephant ears.") (sic)
I think his nephew looked like him, those eyes etc. Would be interesting to see pics of him when he was younger to compare.
They looked somewhat alike but to be honest - Jean was nowhere near as handsome as Rudy ... I've seen photo's of him in his twenties and he was handsome but he did not have the refined beauty of Rudy's features ... they were rougher more like Alberto or Maria's characteristics! I honestly would use those images in my videos but I think they are copyrighted so I dare not.
I believe without a doubt that Jean is Rudy’s son.. the resemblance is very uncanny to be just a nephew… even Jean’s voice… they say Rudy’s voice was deep and Jean has a deep voice .. even when Jean smiles he smiles the same… DNA would prove it but exhuming both bodies with permission from the families would solve the question …I think the families would like to know the truth ..(if it were me I would want to know)
@@Batlady im confused! Jean his Nephew his son??....Rudy would not of let Jean live in Italy & he in Hollywood ..??? Did Jean ever say Rudy is my Father ....WHO IS / or was the MOTHER???😰😯😯😯
@@karenhill3970 Rudy tried to adopt him. But the Italian government wouldn't let him.
I've always wanted to hear what silent film star Rudolph Valento sounded like. He sounded good for a man his age
If only it was real !
Rudy was a sweet loving man he died to soon and too young. Thank God we have his movies recordings of his singing pictures. He will forever be young and live on for many more years to come. Rudy thank you for giving all of us so many precious and beautiful photos videos and movies. Who knows maybe one day we all will see you some day. God rest your sweet loving soul. Lol. 🙏🙏❤️❤️🌈🌈🌹
Those are such lovely comments!
That was so sweet & i feel same way
Rudolph was an amazing man
The most beuitiful man
When he collapsed in Manhattan, he was with friends and his top hat fell off. One of them kept it until the 1950s when it was thrown out and the guy who trashed it, regretted it by the time he was interviewed for a book around 1966.
Wow! Yeah .... that would be a real regret for sure!
Where did that snippet of Valentino's voice come from? I wonder. Can't the recordings of songs he did be digitally enhanced and perfected, somewhat, to be more sonically correct and deemphasize or eliminate those annoying castanets in one song? Why no one has conceived of this idea is amazing. ✌♐
Wonderful man.... Just that..... Wonderful Man....♥️
I agree :-) He certainly was special.
@@ourrudy3209 exactly
I notice watching his films that all the other actors are good but it’s what you expect from the silent films but with Rudolf he’s extremely natural even beyond today’s standard. And there’s a gentleness about him that over shines all of the Hollywood greats. The women were feinting because of the talent that he displayed and the gentle spirit that he was and is. He made them feel for the first t8me that it wasn’t jus5 an actor but a real human being which captivated them. I think his death was foul play because no American star could touch him and they didn’t want the king of Hollywood to be an Italian. I’m truly amazed at this mans persona and ability like so many people.
Thank you for making this. I feel this is very close to what Rudy might have sounded like. It is so poetic that you took time and dedication into giving him a voice. Thank you 🌹
Thank you so much for your encouragement it's so appreciated!
From Steve. RIP RUDOLPH VALENTINO. 💐⚘🌷🌻🌹💐⚘🌻🌹
very interesting, if he really had that deep baritone of the re creation, he would have been fine in talking pictures..
Oh my gosh ...wonderful!! Hissinging voice!!! & relatives ..confirming how kind & sweet .He was .........bless Rudy Valentino.....i think Ytube viewers have discovered Him al over again...................😘😘😘
It's so strange, they had ways of recording voices and songs back then, no one thought to do a recording of Rudy's voice of ALL people? That's so bizarre and a HUGE missed opportunity. Unless a recording does exist somewhere but is lost.
Me lleno de emoción ciando en esos cuatro segundos escucho la potente voz de Rodolfo Valentino y siento su presencia frente a mi como si de la nada se levantara y volviese a la vida.
He had an Italian accent......so leave it at that. It was his look and style and acting that brought him his short lived fame.
Au contraire to people who were dismissive of this classy, well spoken gent. Valentino had a wonderful baritone. Even with the so-so audio recording quality, you hear him well enough to know he had just a slight accent. He sang in tune. And phrased just fine. I am convinced, had he lived... he'd have made the transition to talkies very well. Once he jettisoned that "Sheik" persona that had become such an albatross, both personally and professionally. He would have been terrific in those Warner gangster movies...alongside Eduardo Ciannelli...oh, just imagine!!
Oh I agree with every word ... would have loved to see him act alongside some of the amazing stars of the thirties ... Cagney, Robinson and Lorre, Bogart!
Shame no antibiotics in 1926!
He could have been saved today.
What a very beautiful man.
Gorgeous.
❤
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT RUDY VALENTINO 👏 👍 👌 🙄 🙌 🤣 👏 👍 👌 🙄 🙌 🤣!NOT UNTIL MUCH LATER 😋 😀 👌 👍 😄 🙌 😋 😀 👌 👍 😄 🙌 😋 😀 👌!
What a perfect voice!!
Much appreciated!
@Ellie5621 tbh we are not really interested in his singing abilities ... it's the tone and depth of his voice ... what he would have sounded like just speaking ... alas the songs are all we have .... so we take what we can get! 😊
Fascinating footage ! Thank you so much for sharing !
You are welcome, these are pleasure to make and I know so many people get joy from them too!
Thank you so much for this.
Lo amo!! Charming 💗💗💗💗💋💋💋
Rudy's brother and nephew both have a very low deep voice and very similar to each other, so it is logical to think that Rudy had a voice similar to theirs!
Would you consider doing another demo of his voice I think you did a very great job and I'd like to listen to " his voice"for more time! Thank you from italy 🇮🇹♥️
I would love to ... however I have tried to do it again on numerous occasions and failed miserably. Sadly, it may take just too long! But who knows ... maybe I will try again!
Valentino was an icon.
I'd love to see a movie about him! The person playing him would have to be very handsome! Who do think could actually do it?
Had this guy also become a recording star he would easily have been one of the first crooners right up there with Rudy Vallee
Me causa una gran nostalgia y un gran pesar, saber como este hombre se le escapo tan rápido la vida.
Pero así es la vida.
think of all the technology we have today,they can clean up this recording and make it sound like when it was made.
I wish they would!
Es la primera vez que pude escuchar su voz.Muchas Gracias!
In a way he wasn't meant for talkies. Many silent film stars did not transition well into them.
I think he would have made the transition quite well!
@@ourrudy3209 Here is a recording of his voice. archive.org/details/RudolphValentino/RudolphValentino-ElRelicario.mp3. Perhaps he could talk. He sounded like and old man and couldn't sing to save his life, IMO.
THIS WAS AWESOME......HIS VOICE...OH MY GOSH SIMULATED BUT PROBABLY VERY CLOSE..AND HIS BROTHER& Newphew!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much ... it was so difficult to do .... I know nothing technical about sound at all .... I've tried to do another one but just couldn't pull it off again!
@@ourrudy3209 thanks again ..& ty for responding!!! This was something else....im speechless......you know though i will probably not watch anymore....not because these videos are not fabulous & wonderful of RudyV not to mention ALOT of hard work im sure.....but i feel VERY melancholy aftrwards ..now knowing what all happened to RV....his lost loves...." & untimely d.....so darn sad!...no wonder women went crazy with grief & disbelief! Like how Mom felt WHEN ELVIS suddenly passed away....PLUS i think they capitalized" on the $$ part of his hospitalization & d...& funeral...i know he was famous& loved but alot was hyped up forselling articles & newreels ....shame on them ...i so glad his dear friend& mgr was there to keep some DIGNITY there ..w Rudy's funeral, ect....HOW DARE THEY?..but thats how media is ...sicken ing
They definitely chose the right person to portray rudolph Valentino in AHS
Finn wittrock
I have to admit I've never seen AHS lol
@@ourrudy3209 admittedly AHS isn't for everyone, but it is a pretty good series if you're into horror/dark comedy. Finns part is only loosely based on Valentino but it does make for good viewing as finn did capture his essence (or at least who I imagine Valentino was) even if it wasn't all true
@@iamgroot6965 Just watched it .... stripping away the rest of the story which isn't my thing and leaving aside some slight stereotyping ... that was probably the most human and sympathetic portrayal of Valentino I've seen ... the films made about him in the past absolutely trampled all over the essential character of the man.
Try and watch the film made in 1951!
With Anthony Dexter and Eleanor Parker.
Called "Valentino".
This actor looks a lot like Rudy.
Not the Valentino film with Rudolf Nureyev. That wad absolute rubbish.
Insulting to the mdmery of Valentino.
Wow! It's like he was speaking from beyond the grave
Thank you so much!
Esto es un deleite para mis ojos
Oh my was that his speaking voice very briefly toward the very end? Is it my imagination? It is exactly what I imagined him to sound like. 🌹
Oh to live in the 20s
You get a glimpse of his size in " The Rajah " ..in the canoe scenes....he placed it up in his trunks...see for yourself..
He was so handsome died too young RIP Mr. Valentino 🌹
So true!
Che voce meravigliosa......una persona splendida ...così traspare
So true!
Fascinating man.
Valentino would have only been bigger with the advent of talkies. Difficult, as that is to imagine. Provided he didn't have a voice like a squeaky door hinge!! Which, by every account, he did not. Anyone that physically expressive would have been even more charismatic with sound to augment his chemistry with an audience. Only Elvis had a charisma of a similar magnitude to that of Valentino. And this is with a voice muted by silent pictures. INCREDIBLE!! In that respect, Valentino is the greatest star ever. Hands down.
I think his nephew would look just like him..😢
Thank you 😍 love your video 😍😍
Thank you so much ... these great comments really keep me spurred on to make more and try to make them better each time!
I hope to become friends with him in Heaven! :)
Ah that's so sweet!!
Thank you for this fascinating attempt at "hearing" Rudolph Valentino. It
shows how much you care. Years ago I had the record of Valentino singing "The Kashmiri Song" and "El Relicario". It was amazing to hear his voice, and his acting was perfect for the silent era, but I think he would have done well in Talkies. Meanwhile, may he be happy in Heaven.
Thank you so much! Your comments are a real encouragement!
Wonderful, thankyou!
Thank you too!
Thank you
RUDY VALENTINO HAS A GREAT SINCE OF HUMOR TOO!
Excellent!
Thank you so much!
Valentino had Charisma. Very handsome man. His life ended to soon. 😢
That is lovely of you to do, a magical conjuring. Can I ask a favour, could you note the words he is meant to be saying? I'd like to be able to follow along better, to hear the context. In looking at his visual pronunciation (and having a father who came to an english speaking land at at similar age) we can see that he mastered english quite well... incredible, talented, underestimated by some, adored by many
'This song is about the life of an orphan ... an orphan song ...'
I meant the few words you mocked up of him...
@@juliemirabile299 These are the words he says after being asked about his favourite song ...
ua-cam.com/video/f7SnZqLMfKA/v-deo.html Has the lyrics along with the voice!!! Around 2:36 you hear the "talk"...
Great video!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
En realidad no se como explicarlo. Pero creo que nací con esto que he cargado toda mi vida. Y aunque a veces no lo piense sucede.
He leído mucho la historia de Rudolph Valentino.
Y encontré en este canal y otros las fotigrafias. De hecho este dispositivo en la pantalla de bloqueo esta una de sus fotos y de igual modo la pantalla de inicio.
Pero lo que más me sorprendio ha sido el funeral.
Sobre todo esa fotografía donde reposa su cuerpo y su cabeza sobre una almohada y cobijado como si estuviese dormido y no muerto.
Pues precisamente hoy por la madrugada lo soñé platicando conmigo en mis sueños. Y en la platica que tuve con su espíritu me comunico que el no pensó que moriría, porque aunque no era feliz todo marchaba bien con sus problemas y situaciones de su vida diaria.
Pero que había pagado con su muerte lo que en su juventud había vivido. Y que no se arrepentía de lo que vivió y que logro cumplir sus sueños haciendolos realidad.
En ese sueño también apareció Charles Chaplin y le decia que "realmente se había quedado sorprendido de su porte, su gallardía y de su modo de actuar que si la muerte no le quitara la vida hubiese sido más famoso aun, que lo admiro mucho".
Se que estas palabras no la convencerán de lo que opino en su canal, porque a ciencia cierta esto no es Real pero si un sueno con una comunicación desde el más alla.....
Saludos afectuosos.
Sr.. Arturo Garcia Hernández.
Veracruz, México.
It still is a dream, a beautiful one!
Surely you enjoyed it❤❤❤
I wish we could all hear his real speaking voice. There has to be a recording, somewhere in the world, waiting to be found.
So what's the story about Rudolph and occult? Also I think maybe his wife or girlfriend was mainly involved with occult. I'm just some young guy trying to learn more and just discover the channel.
He was into seances, palmistry. He was a student of Madame Blavatsky and practiced receiving messages from the other side using handwriting. He channeled a Native American spirit called "Black Feather"
@@tobor444 wow man I didn't know that and it's kind of intriguing and fascinating to me to hear these things. You got any good documentaries or books to suggest?
Search for "Rudy the Occult and More"on UA-cam. Affairs Valentino channel.
Ho pianto..❤️
Desde muchos años, más de 50; sigo su recuerdo imborrable para mi.
Hubiera sido grato conocerlo aunque sea en las películas, pero la vida es así.
De todos modos sigo recordando su imagen.
Saludos.
when valentino died,they tried to make alberto into a heart throb.they told him to get a nose job.he had several without much success.so could have sounded different before.from a biography i read on rudolph valentino.
Yes ... that certainly could have been a possibility ... though I never sampled Alberto's voice to create Rudy's just took note of the depth and timbre, speed etc.
Alberto was INSANELY JEALOUS OF RUDY.
And the studios DIDN'T try to make Alberto a 'star'.
Alberto pushed himself onto people at the studio .
HE decided to get nose jobs..no one made him.
HE tried to "take" his brother's place in Hollywood. Didn't work.
Listen to "Affairs Valentino" here on YT with Evelyn Zumaya..she's extremely thorough and her insight into Roy and Alberto's relationship is interesting.
Extremely interesting.
Kindness is in style according to Rudolph Valentino.
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The accent. That was something most Americans at the time didn't like. Very anti-immigrant. Pola Negri also had a heavy Polish accent. That's one of the reason's that everyone was so excited to hear Garbo talk, because the rumor was that she had a very thick Swedish accent. "Garbo talks!" was a big thing about "Anna Christie". "Gif me a viskey, straight". And later w/Ninotchka, she was known as so dour and taciturn, it was "Garbo LAUGHS!". She did one more film and then vanished because she felt she looked too old. Unlike Joan Crawford who was determined to keep plugging away....
But you all know this if you're seeing this channel, I guess....
Did anyone find out what song he was talking about? What it was?
Sadly there is no such song .... it is simply made up dialogue .. !!!!
Those old recordings distorted the true voice of any singer, also too much static noise. I watched several of his movies on TV when I was 13 in 1974. The most recent biography book of him is very interesting, I read it a few years ago. He was alot cuter with all that goop off his face. Rudy and Elvis probably had the most fans of any other celeb, plus their deaths were such an impact, and both died so suddenly. Weird coincidences.
His nephew looks more like Rudy than his own brother
I dunno .... I've only ever seen one photo of Jean ... in his twenties when he actually looked like Rudy ... as he got older he looked alot more like Alberto IMHO
@@ourrudy3209 is that pic available on the internet? I'd like too see it. I'm so curios to learn more about Rudolph and his family. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a lot of information on the internet..
RUDY VALENTINO'S NEPHEW GIOVANNI VALENTINO LOOKS ACTUALLY LIKE HIS UNCLE RUDY VALENTINO!❤☺
I have to say I enjoy reading all your comments here. I sometimes wonder what he would've been like in the 30s because I think with his looks, acting, intensity, and voice (or what I hear about it) he could've transitioned very well into talkies. But then again, maybe he wasn't meant to be in that era but to be immortalized in the silent instead
The comments are great! It's such a shame Valentino died when he did .. he had so much more potential than he achieved in his lifetime. Even if he didn't transition well to talkies ... (I think he would have been successful) he was also interested in being a director ... there were so many routes he could have taken ... but perhaps as you say ... he was meant for one special time in the history of film ...
@@ourrudy3209 I've read only 1 book on him Dark Lover and the 2 Sheikh books he portrayed on film. What good books on him would you recommend?
@@nenabunena What a great question! This may be quite a long list ... but here goes! There are a number of free downloads of original books about Rudy available from The Internet Archive; you join and then get digital library tickets and you can download some of their really old digitised books ... such as Valentino as I knew him; written in 1926 by S George Ullman, Rudy's manager and friend. It's a very interesting read.
From the same place you can also get Natasha Rambova's 1926 account of her marriage to Rudy from the same website. It is also a free download. Rudolph Valentino: a wife's memories of an icon.
You can also download Pola Negri's 'Memoirs of a Star' there, where she gives an account of how she met Valentino and their relationship. Amazon has digital downloads of Rudy's book, 'My Private Diary', which was ghost written by Herbert Howe in the 1920's ... the account of his early days is not quite factual though ... it was somewhat stage managed by the publicity machine of the day. You can also download Rudy's book of poetry called 'Daydreams' on the Internet Archive and his fitness book.
I would also recommend Affairs Valentino Special Edition by Evelyn Zumaya and the 'The True Rudolph Valentino' by Baltasar Fernandez Cue - who Valentino hired to write his biography some weeks before he died. I think those give an all round view of Valentino. It may also be worth buying the S George Ullman memoir published by Evelyn Zumaya which also contains George's later account of his friendship with Valentino ... I'm planning purchasing this last one to round off my collection too!
@@ourrudy3209 There is a book by a Jack Scagnetti...he worked at Falcon Lair ....I got the wrong book sent to me from Thrift Books, so I will pay more at Amazon or Ebay...it's still around....Evelyn Zumaya seems to have done amazing research and has uncovered to many documents that dispell a lot of false info. She actually has a channel on YT where she reads from the book! It is fascinating...esp. Part 14 which has complicated my feelings about Rambova and Rudy....not so cut and dried about all the standard blame on Rambova...they were both at fault, it seems to me.
@@secretariatgirl4249 Oh yes, I agree with you ... Zumaya's research, podcast and YT channel is a must for Valentino fans .... I'm much less opposed to Rambova since reading her books and listening to the podcasts .... they were both young and were at the mercy of the film studio system - the pressures on the marriage must have been enormous!
His nephew bore a striking resemblance to him..
Que hombre.....
His nephew has the same eyes, mouth even?
ABSOLUTELY 💯 %!SEXY!THAT'S RUDY VALENTINO'S SON GIOVANNI VALENTINO!FROM ONE OF HIS 👋 GIRLFRIENDS IN ITALY 🇮🇹 😀 😍 😄 👏 😉!WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER!
🌹 love
RUDY
Está reencarnado no BRASIL
E lembra deste passado sabe que foi o ator porém não lembra ao todo da existência só sabe que foi o ator
Lembranças por emissões do subconsciente onde se ver nele em alguns episódios.
Todo tratado relato de espiritualidade é meu quando em estado de espírito pós morte.
Ainda mantenho esclarecido quanto às realidades de imortalidade .....
Sei mais sobre imortalidade e presença de espírito que da minha própria medíocre vida de Agora....
Rudy
Very interesting. Judging by his brother's voice and his nephew's voice, I feel that Rudy's voice would have been similar, but who really knows? It's really very difficult to tell for sure. Unfortunately, it will be a mystery that we will never be able to solve.
Valentino,the most beautiful and kind man in all times
Sorry, but I can't understand what he is saying. The tone of the voice sounds wonderful, but can't make out the words. Can somebody tell me? Listened 5 times and can't get it. Thanks.
He's saying something like ' ... this is a story about the life of an orphan .... an orphan song' - it's entirely made up!
@@ourrudy3209Could be what he's saying. But still not sure.
There's a clear recording of Barnums' voice from 1889,6 yrs before Valentino was born !
It's just a shame Valentino never thought of preserving this part of his legacy for the future ... but he had no idea he was going to die so soon or the way he did either.
@@ourrudy3209 I often wish that the introduction to the recordings was spoken instead of that corporate guy! Honestly, the damned recording horn was set up, LOL! All he had to do was talk and say "Hello! This is RV and I will be singing...." What were they NOT thinking???? LOL!
@@secretariatgirl4249 Yes! That strange corporate dude really spoils it .... Rudy really missed a trick there!
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!But It Was The 1920s And The Talkes Started In The 1930!
Valentino was quite a good actor. Better than the silly stuff he did, I liked him in "The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse". Hearing this short clip of his masculine voice has added new dimensions to my appreciation of him. If only he had made it to the talkies!
Great comment ... I wish his many radio interviews and talks had been recorded ... he was said to be very good at making impromptu speeches that would have the crowd cheering and applauding ... if only we could hear those!
@@ourrudy3209 And if only we could see him in lighter roles, to see his humorous and playful sides. I know romantic comedies weren't popular until the '30s, but I bet Valentino would've been wonderful in roles like the ones Cary Grant stepped right into.
@@jamesrobiscoe1174 Oh I agree ... there was so much scope for Valentino - not enough attention is paid to the comedic side of his acting talent. I've had in mind to create a video of those moments for some time.
@@ourrudy3209 I never thought so much of Valentino until your video set off this odd yearning for more. If only some hidden treasury of forgotten film were found....
@@jamesrobiscoe1174 That is one of the best comments I've had! Valentino somehow manages to exert a strange kind of fascination even after 100 years. I also wish there was a hidden treasury of forgotten film yet untapped ... I still trawl the internet hoping for clips I've not yet seen!
sexy
OR,
I truly believe Garbo could have been
The Third Mrs.Rudolph Valentino.
RCJ LEO
What do you mean ,100year's later he's still handsome as ever 😱😲😕,I could understand you saying 100 year's ago he was very handsome 😍,I don't no about now😱😲😨💀💀💀💀💀,rest in peace to him,🌹
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He looks a lot like his brother.
I always thought the two looked so different facially ... but more similar in build and complexion.
@@ourrudy3209 I think Alberto had darker hair than Rudy. They had similar expressions but I agree, they didn't look that much alike
Alberto had plastic surgery to try to look more like Rudy as he fancied a movie career himself once he visited CA.
Some similarities of course, but also some differences. Especially hairline and their noses
i found a snippet of his voice: ua-cam.com/video/-UCWR5hbCUE/v-deo.html around minute 26:45 . also he might have been a wonderful Gatsby ...
That's the voice of Leslie Flint - a spirit medium supposedly channeling Rudy's spirit .... so unfortunately not real ... his voice was deeper and also kind of smooth and husky ... the closest you can get to it is hearing Rudy sing El Relicario ... where he almost reverts to a speaking voice in one part of the song!
I agree with you in that he would have made a perfect Gatsby .. he knew about being wealthy but also losing love and never getting his perfect woman ... whom I believe was Blanca de Saulles.
@@ourrudy3209 But Blanca seemed to have only a short interest in him. I am afraid she could have considered him not suitable as he was just a young dancer when they met. But his Natasha was kind of a nail in his coffin, even unintentionally. It is such a tradegy he died so young