Defend a murderer because he's old? Because you're insecure with fading out? The dude left and came back with a knife. That's murder. That's not self-defense. Premeditated. Disgusting
No defending him because he was being beaten, pushed and abused by a gang of sadistic young men 30 years younger. The knife was a small pocket knife used to cut ropes in river tubing. Watch the video.
These are the kind of people who go hunting grizzly bears, and when one of them gets mauled they say the bear attacked them. The tragic part is a young man lost his life. Bullying must stop in schools and out of school. We need to do better, leave people alone.
THIS 💯💯💯 my god, someone with common sense, thank you. Typical of that useless generation, cry victim when they don’t get their way or someone actually stands up to them, and not one of these entitled bullies will learn a thing from this incident. It’ll only make them think they can continue to get what they want and never have to take responsibility. Society is doomed.
It’s truly disturbing how few people are saying this! This situation is terrible, but how is nobody bringing up the way they surrounded and harassed the man until he felt in fear for his life?
Bullying doesn't constitute murder. This dude approached them aggressively, and put his hands on them. They reacted. Had he walked away none of this would happen. He chose violence.
I bet he won’t ever come close to this type of situation again because you’re as everyone accountable for your actions. This is real life and a lot of times it has unfortunate and unfair consequences. So preventable and sad.
@@briannasteele6074 in the video this guy kicked the old man in the face before the old man stabbed anyone... this guy contributed to the aggressive self defense
Imagine if this guy actually participated in the assault of the old man that lead to the man defending himself with a knife that got his friend stabbed... Oh wait 🙄
This guy kicked him in the face while he was in the water for fun,you know that has killed tons of people..a kick in the face on the ground..he wasn't crying in the video while kicking pushing and laughing
@@orchids33333the guy was trying to find his phone and they wouldn’t leave him alone. He didn’t stab anyone until after they knocked him down and hit him. It’s tragic, but it’s self defense.
Acting Iike their the victims when they were the bullies disgusting. Those who disagree go watch the video evidence and tell me what you would do surrounded and being attacked 🙄 I'm sure you would just walk away unscathed
He made initial contact and lunged at their tubes. He never said anything, his demeanor was creepy. He punched the girl first according to several accounts. He could’ve walked away, he’s the adult. Then lied to the cops. GUILTY
@@Gigi30030 - He swung at the drunk, mouthy woman AFTER she pushed him. She put her hands on him first. This is in evidence. It doesn't help your credibility to leave out facts to try and make your point.
Life is complicated. Everyone has good and evil within. This kid participated in the taunting and bullying. And he’s also emotionally scarred for witnessing the death of his friend. It’s ok to have sympathy for him while still holding him accountable for his actions. It’s not black or white
This guy didn’t partake in ANY of the billing or physical altercation. So in this particular instance it is entirely black and white. And yea, you don’t have to condone the kids taunting. but don’t make excuses for a murderer.
3 witness. All said he said where are the little girls. Not 1 of them told the police the day of the incident. And it was pre filming. Can you say choreographed testimony.
@CBGNsYungen yes I know but not one of these witness so far told the police he said he was there asking for little girls. Not a single one. If that was really said one would think at least one would have mentioned that. Coached testimony at best
This was not a legitimate case of self-defense. That's nonsense. The use of lethal force under the circumstances was murder. You can't knife someone in a bar brawl or shoving match. This guy is going to jail for a long time.
Not true at all. He was outnumbered. Have you heard of Preston Lord or Johnathan Lewis Jr? Both killed by a group of kids because they were outnumbered. No weapons involved in either. This is 100% self defense. They attacked him first.
Please never forget how amused this Alexander Vang was, when Mr. Miu was beaten up by Alexander's buddies, whilst Mr. Miu was down in the water. And Alexander laughed and laughed and laughed and couldn't stop laughing in the video. That was still funny, until ...
@@cameronbernard493 Who ? Who assaulted which girl ? Have you seen that ? Or have 12 intoxicated people just told you that in many different versions of their story in order to save their asses ? But "Issac never put a hand on him ..."???? Looks like you're in denial of facts which have been established through video evidence.
@@mzrcnna self defense expert broke down the videos and why it was in no way a case of self defense. Maybe UA-cam that video so an expert can tell you why it isn’t self defense due to the states laws about being able to walk away. It’s just odd. Your cheerleading for this guy who stabbed five people, hid the weapon, disguised himself, went back to floating the river with his group like nothing happened, lied to the cops multiple times, and just to point this out. After he stabbed 5 people, no one approached nor tackle him despite stabbing again 5 people. He had a chance to walk away, it shows in the video, he chose to stays within the area. That’s not self defense. People asked him to walk away multiple times.
@@TheSingingGardener and we watched that man approach the teens looking for problems. He found said problems, and I'm flabbergasted at the people defending him. He's supposed to be wise by 51.
@@themegmiester5062 yes. Why was he alone among a bunch of teenagers and with not enough sense to walk away ? Who goes looking for a phone lost in the water with a knife ?
This man was OUT OF POCKET & SO WAS HIS FILET KNIFE --Illegally at a damn recreational river! Kids will be kids. HE was giving CREEP VIBES & smiles before stabbing those young kids, all of whom came across respectful on the stand. THIS WAS PREMEDITATED MURDER. He could have walked away instead of running up & grabbing on the Black kid who was fortunate to get away with his life. Juwahn could have been his target. GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY & A DANGER TO SOCIETY. GIVE HIM LIFE, NO PAROLE. .🙏🙏
taunting deserves death? he’s not rewriting his story he’s traumatized over an incident that changed his life. teens are stupid and so were they but adults should understand that and take themselves out of the situation.
@gibby9876 can't be the aggressor ignorant intoxicated idiot one minute when it makes you cool then when it gets too real turnaround and make yourself a victim...own it -they started something that got their friend killed and others hurt. Hard lesson to learn.
@gibby9876 can't have it both ways, if you start the altercation there is a probability that someone else is going to end the altercation at your expense/-costing you your life. Simple - don't start something you can't finish. These people were all adults in the eyes of the law.
Honestly, I do not feel any sympathy for the group of friends. The old man was basically bullied by them. Imagine if it was your father getting bullied by a group of teens. I’m not saying that it’s okay to murder someone, but It was in act of self defense in my opinion.
I agree. I have no sympathy either. They were disrespectful. All of them. They were a pack of bullies and now they are playing the innocent victims? Yea no! Self defense if I was on that jury! They should have known better!
He was caught smiling while they were antagonizing an elder man with a life changing surgery. Respect your elders that cancel culture is bad for humanity
This fool probably rehearsed this crying act many times over in preparation for court, and yet still cannot perform it properly. This is a classic, textbook demonstration of fake “crying”. Boy was overselling the “emotional testimony” act like a professional wrestler overselling a finishing move.
These kids have grown up with social media & video games thinking there's no consequences. Out of all the kids though this Alex guy seems to have been at the wrong place with the wrong friends probably trying to fit in.
No but either way if you run up on a group and assault one of them and say weird stuff like you’re looking for little girls you can’t expect to not get clowned. Had he been mature like the 40+ year old man he is and not antagonized a bunch of kids then he wouldn’t have been clowned.
Dude i don’t get this whole “bullying” perspective some people have of this situation, sure they were being dickhead kids and saying mean things but is a curse word really equivalent to mutilating murdering and harming people in your mind? “really?” get help man 😭😭😭😭
it’s obvious he was just ego hurt about being called a pedophile infront of everyone and that’s why he didn’t walk away himself…. but if he knew himself that wasn’t true then why go to the extent of losing your whole life and murdering over someone calling him a name he didn’t like? 😭 everyone was being childish but its actually EXPECTED from children, not an “old man”. Maybe if he didn’t have bring himself down to the level of literal children , then he wouldn’t be rotting in a cell the rest of his life 😹😹
@@Lucky-r6jshut up…really! You’re comparing this to true bullying.l.these were some teenagers drinking out on the river! Having a good time until some crazy guy with a hunting knife came up and literally gutted some of them!! They may have yelled and laughed and cussed a little but they were boys being boys! This was no BULLYING! NOW you’re gonna say I’m a bully….the BULLY here is the man with the knife in his hand that took and innocent child’s life! And altered the lives of e every person on the river that day! And every person involved in their lives! You need to re-evaluate yourself and your outlook on life and society as a whole! If you see what those KIDS did as the wring side in all this tragedy!….Mr Miu is the one in the wrong and it was proven! Justice was served here!
These teenagers acting like victims crying about it but they thought it was funny to call the old man a pedo a rapist an old man looking for young girls & now in court lying there ass of claiming they was scared yet they was all gathered around the old man gaslighting it trying to get others to get involved,hit the man more than once dropped him in water embarrassed him humiliated him wouldn’t let him leave & paid the price It’s called self defence period…the lies and pretend crying is pathetic
It's worrying how many people like you are on youtube. People who think it's OK to stab someone through the heart and stab 4 other people because you feel a little bullied? What sort of fucking twisted logic is that? please enlighten me
So he was called a name, and was pushed, so now it's perfectly justified for him to kill 1 and attempt to kill 4 others? No, no it's not ok 💀, grow up.
So he was called a name, and was pushed, so now it's perfectly justified for him to kill 1 and attempt to kill 4 others? No, no it's not ok 💀, grow up.
You’re pathetic and your defending an un justified murder. HE left HIS group and then ran and assaulted on of the kids after saying he was looking for little girls. He made first contact. Then they started clowning him because of what he said and what he did. Yes they were assholes but that doesn’t mean one of them deserved to die and other deserved to be gutted? He got pushed because he (a grown ass man) decided to punch a girl who was trying to de escalate the situation and told him to walk away several times. You can also hear in the video the kids asking him to go away too. He could’ve left but he decided to stay. THEY acted on self defense HE acted on un justified actions. Just because you decide to harass a group of people and say weird stuff then get clowned for it doesn’t mean you can gut, kill, and stab people. None of his actions are justified. You said they’re “acting scared” he repeatedly said “he was sacred” even though HE WAS THE ONE WHO ANTAGONIZED IT. If you were right in the head and knew what you were talking about you wouldn’t be defending a murderer.
He was found guilty because he ran up to them, instigated the physical altercation by punching a woman, and then didn’t walk away the numerous times he was able to. Sucks to suck. How does it feel dumping for an old a$$ loser?
Um, he was called a couple names by these by the way drunk kids because he was literally swimming under teenage girls tubes to look at them inappropriately and he gets called a pedophile and the old man then kept egging the situation after being asked to leave multiple times on getting in these kids faces and when a kid pushes him he punches a woman in the face and then stabs 5 other people literally killing and leave one gutted, how in the world is your mind justifying that?
This was so heartbreaking to watch.:( how devastating. And the man only got 20 years?! He should have got at minimum life without parole!! What a sick sick man that did this.
They picked on someone who was born in Eastern Europe before the Wall came down. Not a good idea. If he'd been Russian, the knife would have probably been bigger and more people could have been hurt.
Is that where he got that stupid non-verbal dead-eyed stare when they asked him to leave them alone over and over again?... This "he was a badass east European" isn't a winning argument for stabbing teens, including Riley, a 100lb girl, who was a bystander who did nothing to Miu... But I guess that Eastern European attitude will go over well with his new prison mates... I'm sure they'll treat him nice.
All these comments are so dumb. Who cares what they said. Who cares how they acted. A grown ass man approached them aggressively, assault a female in their group, then got pushed/ punched for instigating a fight, then proceeded to kill 1 person and stab 4 others. He brought that knife for a reason, he was quick to pull it out, stabbed a dude trying to break up fight. Killed a kid who didnt even put his hands on him. Like WTF are yall siding with him for?
This is 100% self defense. He was looking for his phone and was assaulted then attacked by 10+ people. He didn’t stab anyone until he was getting up after being knocked down.
@@TheChitology and how dare you defend a bunch of bullying children. Who were bullying and verbally attacking an old man and when that old man went to pull his phone out, they physically attacked him and he defended himself. He was being attacked by over 10 people. He had every right to defend himself and murder anyone who was harming him in the water.
@@TheChitologyoh and I’ve not only watched the entire original video but also the entirety of the body cam footage. As sad as it is these kids fucked around and found out.
The defense must match the offense, they pushed him, and he stabbed 5 people, how the hell is that self defense, not to mention Riley, one of the stab victims, didn't even TOUCH him, what is wrong with you, miu will burn in hell for what he did, and if you genuinely think he is innocent, you will to
This man-child looked pretty tough in some stills from the video, but now crying. Nut Up! You’re only crying because you knew, at that moment, you’d fucked up…
It makes me shudder when the boys say "adults" came to help them. Baby, I thought you was the adults big boy?? I thought y'all were grown, drinkin like you're grown, cursing and carrying on like you're grown. Well, welcome to being grown. It's too bad you had to learn that lesson the way you did hun, but you sure learned to mind your business didn't you?
GOOD , they acted like a complete out of control mob , they humiliated someone, intimidated him , filming him in the hope to spread their nasty attack to get likes before attacking him.
Stop acting like these are 12 year old boys, they are 17-year-old juvenile delinquents and their parents ought to be ashamed of themselves for raising kids that would attack a senior citizen.
Miu is an adult, older and wiser. To go up stream and against the water proves this is murder, bullying or not. It is not self defense when miu walked toward their group. Teens are teens and drunk adults act the same. Again sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me! This man reacted wrong to silly young adults. He let them get to him. He chose to charge them, he chose to kill the kid! Self defense is when someone comes at u, not when u walk to them?
17 and 18 year olds in 2001 and before would have handled this situation... 20 years later, 17 and 18 year olds in 2021 had no prayer.. they're all talk and soft
People need to learn. If you are capable of walking away, you should. If you don’t youre at fault case closed. Verbal exchange shouldnt lead to physical contact like stabbing someone. So sad.
If they would of minded thief own business none of this would of happened. After watching this trial I think this was self defense the older man doesn’t know what these bullies drunk are going to do
He composed himself in a court setting? God help. If sat and continued to snivel you people would be making fun of him for being a "snotty crybaby" or something of the like. Ignorant
BRAVE ,,, have you seen this fool humiliate ,, bully and attack the man who was alone while being circled by this out of control mob. You think this excuse for a human is brave
@@steve10 Steve you are correct. These sociopaths caused the death of their friend beating up an old man who had a triple bypass less that 3 years ago. We must do better as a people.
I have typically been someone who supports the claim of being no better than the people who you surround yourself with. An example of a situation where potential aggressors/instigators can influence potential harm and injury to those around them. Keep your circle small and one of high moral character and integrity. Physical altercations can result in serious injuries or death. Fighting should be reserved only in the most dire circumstances and when it is the only option to defense and preservation of life.
Very good advice for young people and for older people, like myself. I won't even be around drinking or people on weed, or anything that interferes with one's judgement. Society is too unstable right now.
Not so funny now is it tubs , how about thinking about NOT bullying people. People like this make me sick , crying in court , we how about before humiliating someone , joining in the bullying , then attacking a man , think about what could go wrong.. SELF DEFENSE
@@JohnnyOculusaccount 😃😃😃 with jokes like that you were not the funny guy in school , sounds like a wounded attack , a bit like you are projecting onto me, but hey I support people that have been bullied like you.
@@steve10 a wounded attack ? Lol…, just making an observation and defending a young man who lost his best friend to a maniac. Good call on the self defense btw :)
crazy. maybe learn a lesson about how your actions can end the life of your friend. you all ganged up on someone and got the consequence that came with it.
I do not believe this witness! If that man had said that no way he would not have remembered! He's emotional because they all contributed to their friend being fatally hurt unfortunately! This is sad, horrible & tragic! If they had not been taunting & surrounding that man this would not have happened! They all should have used their phones to call 911 or their parents! No one had the right to be in that stranger face! I see the tears & the emotional outburst however I'm not convinced! Everyone that participated in taunting is guilty & contributed to the fatal outcome! Just like robbing a bank & some get fatally hurt during the process concerning the robbery even the get away driver though he or she did not pull the trigger they too r guilty! Tears don't mean ur innocent. So sorry that young man did not make it.
I say this every other day leave people alone. You don't know who you are going to run into messing with people. They were aggravating the situation instead of just walking away. It's so easy to have bravado in a group but they went up against the wrong person. All it took was one level headed person to say guys let it go it's not worth it. But no y'all surrounding the man, filming him and taunting him. Look what happened! Now everyone is sitting around crying but in that video of it happening y'all laughing and going crazy until crazy turned on you...
I can’t help but feel bad for this kid. Alexander Vang. I mean he was a part of the crowd jeering at the older man but it must have been so traumatizing to see his friend stabbed to death. A lot of kids are sheltered in the US. As a parent in this country, I am paranoid and exhausted!
He looked weird cause he was using a snorkel in 2 ft of water. People drown in an inch of water!!!!!goggles are made to be able to see under water. Why not ask again to make sure you “heard” looking for little girls? Why not even start the meet with excuse me sir can we help you?
THIS COMMENT SECTION IS ABSOLUTELY DISTURBING AND DISGUSTING TALKING ABOUT TEACHING THESE POOR CHILDREN A LESSON !!!!! Or CLAIMING THIS CREEP WAS ACTING INSELF DEFENSE!!!!
That point at the defendant was AMAZING & INTENTIONALLY MOTIVATED TO SHOW HOW WRONG THAT dangerous violent man is. TRAUMATIZED THESE YOUNG KIDS THAT WERE SIMPLY goofing off. His parents didn't teach him "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. " SMDH🙏🙏🙏 DON'T LET THIS CREEP BACK ON THESE STREETS.
Just goofing off? Some of the comments here say they were terrorizing the man… Which I am perfectly comfortable believing. Teens and young adults are absolute idiots and tyrants when they want to be. I’m sorry someone got fatally wounded behind this either way😢
It's all fun & games when your mob is in control. As soon as the tables turned, they morphed back into babies again.
Defend a murderer because he's old? Because you're insecure with fading out? The dude left and came back with a knife. That's murder. That's not self-defense. Premeditated. Disgusting
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@@Siapsidhen he did not leave & come back with a knife. Please watch the video.
No defending him because he was being beaten, pushed and abused by a gang of sadistic young men 30 years younger. The knife was a small pocket knife used to cut ropes in river tubing. Watch the video.
These are the kind of people who go hunting grizzly bears, and when one of them gets mauled they say the bear attacked them.
The tragic part is a young man lost his life.
Bullying must stop in schools and out of school. We need to do better, leave people alone.
THIS 💯💯💯 my god, someone with common sense, thank you. Typical of that useless generation, cry victim when they don’t get their way or someone actually stands up to them, and not one of these entitled bullies will learn a thing from this incident. It’ll only make them think they can continue to get what they want and never have to take responsibility. Society is doomed.
Also walk away
It’s truly disturbing how few people are saying this! This situation is terrible, but how is nobody bringing up the way they surrounded and harassed the man until he felt in fear for his life?
Bullying doesn't constitute murder. This dude approached them aggressively, and put his hands on them. They reacted. Had he walked away none of this would happen. He chose violence.
You do know that the killer is the one that initially got physical and started the altercation right? Lol
That poor guy. He will never be the same again after witnessing that. Absolutely horrific and completely avoidable.
I bet he won’t ever come close to this type of situation again because you’re as everyone accountable for your actions. This is real life and a lot of times it has unfortunate and unfair consequences. So preventable and sad.
@@briannasteele6074 in the video this guy kicked the old man in the face before the old man stabbed anyone... this guy contributed to the aggressive self defense
Imagine if this guy actually participated in the assault of the old man that lead to the man defending himself with a knife that got his friend stabbed... Oh wait 🙄
That lil porker was just a guilty.... he seems like a total follower smh
This guy kicked him in the face while he was in the water for fun,you know that has killed tons of people..a kick in the face on the ground..he wasn't crying in the video while kicking pushing and laughing
Dude, it sucks you lost a friend like that but you know damn well in your heart your group was at fault
They were drunk kids and behaved badly. This older man gutted one of those kids. Gutted. He should have stayed away. This was overkill.
being bullied allows u the right to stab, disembowel, and kill children?
@@Shadowfax0113it reminds me of how people really are, seeing so many comments acting like it's equal.
@@orchids33333the guy was trying to find his phone and they wouldn’t leave him alone. He didn’t stab anyone until after they knocked him down and hit him. It’s tragic, but it’s self defense.
that is Why u Just Dont Say Nothing & Move Away, To Another AREA, IF POSSIBLE
Acting Iike their the victims when they were the bullies disgusting. Those who disagree go watch the video evidence and tell me what you would do surrounded and being attacked 🙄 I'm sure you would just walk away unscathed
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He made initial contact and lunged at their tubes. He never said anything, his demeanor was creepy. He punched the girl first according to several accounts. He could’ve walked away, he’s the adult. Then lied to the cops. GUILTY
@@Gigi30030still not an excuse to jump an old man.
But hey, their blonde twink friend is in hell right now so at least there’s some silver lining.
@@Gigi30030 - He swung at the drunk, mouthy woman AFTER she pushed him. She put her hands on him first. This is in evidence. It doesn't help your credibility to leave out facts to try and make your point.
Are you dumb, that old dude walked up to them
Harassing is assault,
Life is complicated. Everyone has good and evil within. This kid participated in the taunting and bullying. And he’s also emotionally scarred for witnessing the death of his friend. It’s ok to have sympathy for him while still holding him accountable for his actions. It’s not black or white
Most of the time it’s Black tho
This guy didn’t partake in ANY of the billing or physical altercation. So in this particular instance it is entirely black and white. And yea, you don’t have to condone the kids taunting. but don’t make excuses for a murderer.
This dude is a coward, LOL, he was acting tough in the video now crying like a baby in court.
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Reminds me of another 17-year-old from Wisconsin who testified in court during a murder trial….
3 witness. All said he said where are the little girls.
Not 1 of them told the police the day of the incident.
And it was pre filming.
Can you say choreographed testimony.
No girls in their party and no little girls in 2 ft deep water, their lies make no sense.
The police came the day of the incident
@CBGNsYungen yes I know but not one of these witness so far told the police he said he was there asking for little girls. Not a single one. If that was really said one would think at least one would have mentioned that.
Coached testimony at best
alledgedly said that. I don't believe he said that.
Someone already testified to that@@williammason8566
This was not a legitimate case of self-defense. That's nonsense. The use of lethal force under the circumstances was murder. You can't knife someone in a bar brawl or shoving match. This guy is going to jail for a long time.
I hope a drunken group of people never surround you on a river so you have to make a decision that's your life or theirs.
Are you going to every video to make the same comment? …..lame🤡
@@XIStance-xd8nhwhat if they are? Since this is a matter of life and death, I think if they want to comment this on every video I understand that.
@@XIStance-xd8nh Hopefully you've got the point now.
Not true at all. He was outnumbered. Have you heard of Preston Lord or Johnathan Lewis Jr? Both killed by a group of kids because they were outnumbered. No weapons involved in either. This is 100% self defense. They attacked him first.
So sorry. What a horrible situation
For the innocnet man who these idiots ruined his life yes
@@Lord_Humungusand for the 17yr old who literally DIED, yes.
You can see in the video this guy was also trash talking and not trying to defuse or better the situation.
Please never forget how amused this Alexander Vang was, when Mr. Miu was beaten up by Alexander's buddies, whilst Mr. Miu was down in the water. And Alexander laughed and laughed and laughed and couldn't stop laughing in the video. That was still funny, until ...
Remember he walked up to them and assaulted the girl. Then he proceeded to stab 5 people. Isaac never put a hand on him and he was killed.
@@cameronbernard493 Who ? Who assaulted which girl ? Have you seen that ? Or have 12 intoxicated people just told you that in many different versions of their story in order to save their asses ?
But "Issac never put a hand on him ..."???? Looks like you're in denial of facts which have been established through video evidence.
@@cameronbernard493keep lying. You are just like these lying manipulative teens
Yes 💯
@@mzrcnna self defense expert broke down the videos and why it was in no way a case of self defense. Maybe UA-cam that video so an expert can tell you why it isn’t self defense due to the states laws about being able to walk away. It’s just odd. Your cheerleading for this guy who stabbed five people, hid the weapon, disguised himself, went back to floating the river with his group like nothing happened, lied to the cops multiple times, and just to point this out. After he stabbed 5 people, no one approached nor tackle him despite stabbing again 5 people. He had a chance to walk away, it shows in the video, he chose to stays within the area. That’s not self defense. People asked him to walk away multiple times.
This guy was one of the guys punching the old man based on the video. Every act has consequences.
After the the “adult” punched a teenage girl… it’s always the faceless accounts acting a 🤡 on the internet
@@TheSingingGardener and we watched that man approach the teens looking for problems. He found said problems, and I'm flabbergasted at the people defending him.
He's supposed to be wise by 51.
@@themegmiester5062 yes. Why was he alone among a bunch of teenagers and with not enough sense to walk away ? Who goes looking for a phone lost in the water with a knife ?
After he punched one girl and stabbed the other!
@@susandean5622why would he lie under oath? He said he never touched the man and the man never touched him. And you’re saying he did?
...why isn't he taunting now like he was in the video, oh he is rewriting his story. Fool...all of them are responsible!
This man was OUT OF POCKET & SO WAS HIS FILET KNIFE --Illegally at a damn recreational river! Kids will be kids. HE was giving CREEP VIBES & smiles before stabbing those young kids, all of whom came across respectful on the stand. THIS WAS PREMEDITATED MURDER. He could have walked away instead of running up & grabbing on the Black kid who was fortunate to get away with his life. Juwahn could have been his target. GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY & A DANGER TO SOCIETY. GIVE HIM LIFE, NO PAROLE. .🙏🙏
They’re fucking kids. That GROWN MAN came up to them and antagonized them
taunting deserves death? he’s not rewriting his story he’s traumatized over an incident that changed his life. teens are stupid and so were they but adults should understand that and take themselves out of the situation.
@gibby9876 can't be the aggressor ignorant intoxicated idiot one minute when it makes you cool then when it gets too real turnaround and make yourself a victim...own it -they started something that got their friend killed and others hurt. Hard lesson to learn.
@gibby9876 can't have it both ways, if you start the altercation there is a probability that someone else is going to end the altercation at your expense/-costing you your life. Simple - don't start something you can't finish. These people were all adults in the eyes of the law.
Honestly, I do not feel any sympathy for the group of friends. The old man was basically bullied by them. Imagine if it was your father getting bullied by a group of teens. I’m not saying that it’s okay to murder someone, but It was in act of self defense in my opinion.
he aproched them sure they bullied him all he had to do was walk away but he let his ego win
Manslaughter
I agree. I have no sympathy either. They were disrespectful. All of them. They were a pack of bullies and now they are playing the innocent victims? Yea no! Self defense if I was on that jury! They should have known better!
@@_phileo getting shoved and punished dose not mean u can stab 5 people lol this ain’t self defense
This man is their father age or older and they are like vultures. The audio on the video is disgusting.
Crybaby, ain’t so tough now are you?
He was caught smiling while they were antagonizing an elder man with a life changing surgery. Respect your elders that cancel culture is bad for humanity
This fool probably rehearsed this crying act many times over in preparation for court, and yet still cannot perform it properly. This is a classic, textbook demonstration of fake “crying”. Boy was overselling the “emotional testimony” act like a professional wrestler overselling a finishing move.
what are the teens acting like victims? They are the cowards and they are the only ones at fault.
These kids have grown up with social media & video games thinking there's no consequences. Out of all the kids though this Alex guy seems to have been at the wrong place with the wrong friends probably trying to fit in.
Was he the one recording, taunting and getting the mob to converge?
No but either way if you run up on a group and assault one of them and say weird stuff like you’re looking for little girls you can’t expect to not get clowned. Had he been mature like the 40+ year old man he is and not antagonized a bunch of kids then he wouldn’t have been clowned.
No, it was Jawahn, the real instigator of all this
Not so funny when the fish has the knife.
They thought attacking a senior citizen was really funny didn't they, punching him slapping him and laughing their asses off.
Now you start snottin’ and a wailing but you were such a bully when it was all of you against an old man. Really?
Dude i don’t get this whole “bullying” perspective some people have of this situation, sure they were being dickhead kids and saying mean things but is a curse word really equivalent to mutilating murdering and harming people in your mind? “really?” get help man 😭😭😭😭
@@mo1dspore it actually is. I’m a Mrs. Not a dude. Never assume you know someone’s gender.
it’s obvious he was just ego hurt about being called a pedophile infront of everyone and that’s why he didn’t walk away himself…. but if he knew himself that wasn’t true then why go to the extent of losing your whole life and murdering over someone calling him a name he didn’t like? 😭 everyone was being childish but its actually EXPECTED from children, not an “old man”.
Maybe if he didn’t have bring himself down to the level of literal children , then he wouldn’t be rotting in a cell the rest of his life 😹😹
@@Lucky-r6jshut up…really! You’re comparing this to true bullying.l.these were some teenagers drinking out on the river! Having a good time until some crazy guy with a hunting knife came up and literally gutted some of them!! They may have yelled and laughed and cussed a little but they were boys being boys! This was no BULLYING! NOW you’re gonna say I’m a bully….the BULLY here is the man with the knife in his hand that took and innocent child’s life! And altered the lives of e every person on the river that day! And every person involved in their lives! You need to re-evaluate yourself and your outlook on life and society as a whole! If you see what those KIDS did as the wring side in all this tragedy!….Mr Miu is the one in the wrong and it was proven! Justice was served here!
Put this man in jail!!!
These teenagers acting like victims crying about it but they thought it was funny to call the old man a pedo a rapist an old man looking for young girls & now in court lying there ass of claiming they was scared yet they was all gathered around the old man gaslighting it trying to get others to get involved,hit the man more than once dropped him in water embarrassed him humiliated him wouldn’t let him leave & paid the price
It’s called self defence period…the lies and pretend crying is pathetic
It's worrying how many people like you are on youtube. People who think it's OK to stab someone through the heart and stab 4 other people because you feel a little bullied? What sort of fucking twisted logic is that? please enlighten me
So he was called a name, and was pushed, so now it's perfectly justified for him to kill 1 and attempt to kill 4 others? No, no it's not ok 💀, grow up.
So he was called a name, and was pushed, so now it's perfectly justified for him to kill 1 and attempt to kill 4 others? No, no it's not ok 💀, grow up.
You’re pathetic and your defending an un justified murder. HE left HIS group and then ran and assaulted on of the kids after saying he was looking for little girls. He made first contact. Then they started clowning him because of what he said and what he did. Yes they were assholes but that doesn’t mean one of them deserved to die and other deserved to be gutted? He got pushed because he (a grown ass man) decided to punch a girl who was trying to de escalate the situation and told him to walk away several times. You can also hear in the video the kids asking him to go away too. He could’ve left but he decided to stay. THEY acted on self defense HE acted on un justified actions. Just because you decide to harass a group of people and say weird stuff then get clowned for it doesn’t mean you can gut, kill, and stab people. None of his actions are justified. You said they’re “acting scared” he repeatedly said “he was sacred” even though HE WAS THE ONE WHO ANTAGONIZED IT. If you were right in the head and knew what you were talking about you wouldn’t be defending a murderer.
Nicolae Miu was surrounded, outnumbered, assaulted, ridiculed, harassed and bullied beyond what most people can tolerate. Not guilty!
He was found guilty because he ran up to them, instigated the physical altercation by punching a woman, and then didn’t walk away the numerous times he was able to. Sucks to suck. How does it feel dumping for an old a$$ loser?
Shut up , you sound so freaking dumb
Um, he was called a couple names by these by the way drunk kids because he was literally swimming under teenage girls tubes to look at them inappropriately and he gets called a pedophile and the old man then kept egging the situation after being asked to leave multiple times on getting in these kids faces and when a kid pushes him he punches a woman in the face and then stabs 5 other people literally killing and leave one gutted, how in the world is your mind justifying that?
Such bad acting
Kids, watch this and learn or meet your maker.
Real talk! You never know what the other person is capable of! #selfdefense
This was so heartbreaking to watch.:( how devastating. And the man only got 20 years?! He should have got at minimum life without parole!! What a sick sick man that did this.
They picked on someone who was born in Eastern Europe before the Wall came down. Not a good idea. If he'd been Russian, the knife would have probably been bigger and more people could have been hurt.
Is that where he got that stupid non-verbal dead-eyed stare when they asked him to leave them alone over and over again?... This "he was a badass east European" isn't a winning argument for stabbing teens, including Riley, a 100lb girl, who was a bystander who did nothing to Miu... But I guess that Eastern European attitude will go over well with his new prison mates... I'm sure they'll treat him nice.
Lord help this boy heal, in Jesus name 💔
Such a traumatic event. I’m sorry you lost your best friend.
Lord has taught this Boy a lesson ,,stop being in large groups and bullying and intimidating a man on his own , he isn't so tough now.
I hope he comes to Jesus.
He wasn't 🙏 that day on the river
Anyone can change praise God. ✝️
Alex was such a good friend. Most people were in shock, understandably. But Alex jumped into action.
Yeah, that other “friend” just kept recording. You know who I mean.
That Poor Kid Is Not Here Anymore
Behind Foolishness, That's Not The First Time They Rear Up, U Mean That Just Dont Come Out Of Nowhere
All these comments are so dumb. Who cares what they said. Who cares how they acted. A grown ass man approached them aggressively, assault a female in their group, then got pushed/ punched for instigating a fight, then proceeded to kill 1 person and stab 4 others. He brought that knife for a reason, he was quick to pull it out, stabbed a dude trying to break up fight. Killed a kid who didnt even put his hands on him. Like WTF are yall siding with him for?
I completely agree.
A seemingly intelligent man who lost it! Kids taunting him sent him into a rage!
This is 100% self defense. He was looking for his phone and was assaulted then attacked by 10+ people. He didn’t stab anyone until he was getting up after being knocked down.
You must of not watched the video in its entirety. How dare you defend a murderer.
Don’t bother Chitology ,, there’s no hope for people like that.
@@TheChitology and how dare you defend a bunch of bullying children. Who were bullying and verbally attacking an old man and when that old man went to pull his phone out, they physically attacked him and he defended himself. He was being attacked by over 10 people. He had every right to defend himself and murder anyone who was harming him in the water.
@@TheChitologyoh and I’ve not only watched the entire original video but also the entirety of the body cam footage. As sad as it is these kids fucked around and found out.
The defense must match the offense, they pushed him, and he stabbed 5 people, how the hell is that self defense, not to mention Riley, one of the stab victims, didn't even TOUCH him, what is wrong with you, miu will burn in hell for what he did, and if you genuinely think he is innocent, you will to
Im so sorry dude im soo sorry makes me sad 😭💔😞 im going to pray real hard tonight
"Everyone has a plan until they get disemboweled." Mike Slicin'
This man-child looked pretty tough in some stills from the video, but now crying. Nut Up! You’re only crying because you knew, at that moment, you’d fucked up…
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Those kids are not victims they are the aggressors. Miu used his rights and protected himself.
It makes me shudder when the boys say "adults" came to help them. Baby, I thought you was the adults big boy?? I thought y'all were grown, drinkin like you're grown, cursing and carrying on like you're grown. Well, welcome to being grown. It's too bad you had to learn that lesson the way you did hun, but you sure learned to mind your business didn't you?
He was instigating, and when shit got real he then knew they all fd up
Those young boys were deeply traumatized for life.
GOOD , they acted like a complete out of control mob , they humiliated someone, intimidated him , filming him in the hope to spread their nasty attack to get likes before attacking him.
You don't think the man was traumatized? He's probably more traumatized. Smh
@@JustPassingBy_Yoloyeah he was so traumatized he pretended to act like he didn’t have a knife and that he wasn’t the one that hurt the kids
Cool
Stop acting like these are 12 year old boys, they are 17-year-old juvenile delinquents and their parents ought to be ashamed of themselves for raising kids that would attack a senior citizen.
For young people..leave older people alone..this is an example of what could happen since it seems to be funny..be a leader..not a follower
When bullying stops being fun real fast. Time to grow up, loved one.
I Wont Call This A Prank, Cause Someone Pass Away, Pranks To Me is When 1 Or 4 Year Old Not Soon To Be Adults
Old man needs to be locked up
why there were jumping him
I have a zero sympathy for this kid including one who died. Since they have a zero empathy for older folks
Miu is an adult, older and wiser. To go up stream and against the water proves this is murder, bullying or not. It is not self defense when miu walked toward their group. Teens are teens and drunk adults act the same. Again sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me! This man reacted wrong to silly young adults. He let them get to him. He chose to charge them, he chose to kill the kid! Self defense is when someone comes at u, not when u walk to them?
You should review the timeline.
This was 100% self defence, I don't feel bad for these kids
The pack of hyenas got cut up
Its 2024 People Have Changed
Its Not The Same, Sorry To Say,
Who Slapped That Man In The Face
17 and 18 year olds in 2001 and before would have handled this situation... 20 years later, 17 and 18 year olds in 2021 had no prayer.. they're all talk and soft
@@DS-182this is the dumbest comment on any video about this incident that I have read so far. Congratulations.
Pamela, maybe you should watch the video of the incident before making stupid comments. He slapped and stabbed two girls before anyone touched him.
@@susandean5622 Perception & Images
Are Powerful, They Went There Impaired
So That Right There Is A Problem
You’re right. They were illegally impaired and acted stupid. Still not a valid reason to murder someone.
Freudian slip x2
Prosecutor- marijuana?
Vang- yes please
Vang- they jumped on him in RETALIATION!!
did he get stabbed before or after aj he looked far away from Nicolae in the video
Pranks has consequences
What pranks are you talking about? Even if they were “pranking” no one deserves to be stabbed and murdered…such a ridiculous comment
look at her pic bro lmao. dont argue with a bunch of these regards@@TheSingingGardener
@@politedemons I guess you're the only one allowed with an opinion right.
@@politedemons lol right ! see my comment -- the CUNTELLA is too old to comment IMO
@@TheSingingGardener some people can't stand to be tormented
He was instigating too!!
People need to learn. If you are capable of walking away, you should. If you don’t youre at fault case closed. Verbal exchange shouldnt lead to physical contact like stabbing someone. So sad.
If they would of minded thief own business none of this would of happened. After watching this trial I think this was self defense the older man doesn’t know what these bullies drunk are going to do
I'm Asian so I'm going to cry like a little b**** to get sympathy for being a bully oh my God
Wtf does that even mean
no tears
This kid goes from sniveling and sobbing to completely comfortable in less than one second.smh
He composed himself in a court setting? God help. If sat and continued to snivel you people would be making fun of him for being a "snotty crybaby" or something of the like. Ignorant
It's called trying to maintain composure. Are you that thick in the head?
He was trying to stay strong for his friend and get through the testimony to send this monster to prison
THEY ALL WENT AFTER THE OLDER MAN FFS
What a brave young man. God bless everyone affected by this tragedy.
BRAVE ,,, have you seen this fool humiliate ,, bully and attack the man who was alone while being circled by this out of control mob.
You think this excuse for a human is brave
@@steve10
Steve you are correct.
These sociopaths caused the death of their friend beating up an old man who had a triple bypass less that 3 years ago.
We must do better as a people.
What is brave there,they were bullied this man that’s why things escalated.
Seems to me that this guy laughed the loudest while they harassed a stranger for nothing at all.
As much as I hate to say it, the old man didn’t belong in prison he defended himself and those kids well I mean, they acted around and found out
Mr Vang should be locked up for a very, very long time
He seems like he wants sushi
He Was Also Drunk As Well
Ofc he was... but he ain't gonna admit bc where's the proof right? And he was/is underage.
@@JustPassingBy_Yolo if All Were Stab they did blood work before surgery, if they followed procedure
@@JustPassingBy_Yolo The Defence Could ve Called Witness Who Have Seen Him Out Of Order, Any Police Report, Other Friends
@@JustPassingBy_Yolo He Comes Off As A BIT SHADY, Could be Wrong As Well
I guess they tried to sadistically bully and abuse the wrong guy. Clearly he was acting in self defense.
Was it girls or pearls he was looking for…hmmm
Howcome his crying now after he stared everything. Crying cause his guilty. 😂
I have typically been someone who supports the claim of being no better than the people who you surround yourself with. An example of a situation where potential aggressors/instigators can influence potential harm and injury to those around them. Keep your circle small and one of high moral character and integrity. Physical altercations can result in serious injuries or death. Fighting should be reserved only in the most dire circumstances and when it is the only option to defense and preservation of life.
Very good advice for young people and for older people, like myself. I won't even be around drinking or people on weed, or anything that interferes with one's judgement. Society is too unstable right now.
Such different hearts displayed in comments and on stand.
Not so funny now is it tubs , how about thinking about NOT bullying people.
People like this make me sick , crying in court , we how about before humiliating someone , joining in the bullying , then attacking a man , think about what could go wrong..
SELF DEFENSE
Somebody got bullied in school. Lol get some therapy guy
@@JohnnyOculusaccount 😃😃😃 with jokes like that you were not the funny guy in school , sounds like a wounded attack , a bit like you are projecting onto me, but hey I support people that have been bullied like you.
agree !!
@@steve10 a wounded attack ? Lol…, just making an observation and defending a young man who lost his best friend to a maniac. Good call on the self defense btw :)
Sadly big kids games big kid concequences
If this group don't get in trouble, be damn well that theres gling to be worse to come
bullies
It certainly is a teachable moment for all involved. Alcohol major player
crazy. maybe learn a lesson about how your actions can end the life of your friend. you all ganged up on someone and got the consequence that came with it.
buti nga sainyo mga matatapang pala kau e
Wtf are u saying
Insulting laughing they will never do that again
I do not believe this witness! If that man had said that no way he would not have remembered! He's emotional because they all contributed to their friend being fatally hurt unfortunately! This is sad, horrible & tragic! If they had not been taunting & surrounding that man this would not have happened! They all should have used their phones to call 911 or their parents! No one had the right to be in that stranger face! I see the tears & the emotional outburst however I'm not convinced! Everyone that participated in taunting is guilty & contributed to the fatal outcome! Just like robbing a bank & some get fatally hurt during the process concerning the robbery even the get away driver though he or she did not pull the trigger they too r guilty! Tears don't mean ur innocent. So sorry that young man did not make it.
I dont know what these boys were expecting.
Now the Bully is crying ?? Costed his friend´s life !!!!!!!
I say this every other day leave people alone. You don't know who you are going to run into messing with people. They were aggravating the situation instead of just walking away. It's so easy to have bravado in a group but they went up against the wrong person. All it took was one level headed person to say guys let it go it's not worth it. But no y'all surrounding the man, filming him and taunting him. Look what happened! Now everyone is sitting around crying but in that video of it happening y'all laughing and going crazy until crazy turned on you...
Kim jong un you suppose to be in north korea
🤣😆🤣🤣🤣🤣
Play stupid games . Shit 💩 happens
“Hold pressure onto the wound.” Is literally a statement coached what to say by the prosecution.
or idk it's what he did?
@@nineteen96 Went right over your head bro.
@@michaelmurphy2612 Perhaps, the confusion is because you structured your sentence as if Yoda coached you. 😉
@@MaraCrocker Can say what ever you want. Guys gonna get away with murder.
ive seen this guy fishing carp off the st croix bridge
Yes I cared for Isaac I care so much that I told him leave that man alone I tried to stop him
Choose better friends.
I can’t help but feel bad for this kid. Alexander Vang. I mean he was a part of the crowd jeering at the older man but it must have been so traumatizing to see his friend stabbed to death. A lot of kids are sheltered in the US. As a parent in this country, I am paranoid and exhausted!
This is so heartbreaking 💔 Poor young people having to go through this. 😢
You mean living with the repercussions of their own behavior...
Oh ya boo hoo
They started it. People have the right to defend themselves especially when they are being assaulted by a gang of little drunk darlings.
Wish I had a nickel for every lie and "I don't remember" comment from these Cry Bullys. Some of their lies are outright perjury.
This old guy was out to kill thats why he didn't run
Well he must live with what he installed on his friends
He looked weird cause he was using a snorkel in 2 ft of water. People drown in an inch of water!!!!!goggles are made to be able to see under water. Why not ask again to make sure you “heard” looking for little girls? Why not even start the meet with excuse me sir can we help you?
We, the Hmong people, dont claim this guy hahah
THIS COMMENT SECTION IS ABSOLUTELY DISTURBING AND DISGUSTING TALKING ABOUT TEACHING THESE POOR CHILDREN A LESSON !!!!!
Or CLAIMING THIS CREEP WAS ACTING INSELF DEFENSE!!!!
Watch the video footage in it's entirety. It was self defense.
Now hes cryin lol
Rekkkttttttttttttttt
Alexander Van-Gina
💔
That point at the defendant was AMAZING & INTENTIONALLY MOTIVATED TO SHOW HOW WRONG THAT dangerous violent man is. TRAUMATIZED THESE YOUNG KIDS THAT WERE SIMPLY goofing off. His parents didn't teach him "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. " SMDH🙏🙏🙏 DON'T LET THIS CREEP BACK ON THESE STREETS.
Just goofing off? Some of the comments here say they were terrorizing the man… Which I am perfectly comfortable believing. Teens and young adults are absolute idiots and tyrants when they want to be. I’m sorry someone got fatally wounded behind this either way😢
@@strawbricketteshortcake5460why JUST believe it when you can do your own research and see the video and testimony yourself?????
Disappointed at my fellow Hmong brother