Ep. 269 - Doc McGhee talking KISS Avatars, Selling Brand, MSG, Biopic, Box Sets, Kruise, Bon Jovi
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
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Best Kiss related interview I've seen in a long time.
Mike I just want to tell you what a fantastic job you did interviewing Doc... you ask great questions, even the ones that could have been uncomfortable, and left no Stones Unturned. Thank you again for all the effort you put into your show your podcast. Kudos and much respect!
This is my first time listening to this show…and I gotta say the hosts questions are literally the BEST ones I’ve heard so far…awesome job…as you were asking questions I was flinching because you asked questions that addressed “elephants in the room”
Incredible work Mike! This is definitely going to get picked up by other media outlets, you've asked questions that have been looming for many kiss fans
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great work, Mike! Excellent interview and hopefully a few of these things in the pipeline happen soon.
Another great interview! Nice that the first album box set and Off the Soundboards are planned for the future.
Thanks Mike, that answered all my questions, I love that Doc is always so open and honest.
That’s a ton of information, thanks, looking forward to the box sets!! Great job Mike!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Doc is a good guy, in 2010 ish i was at a show in toronto, and after the show i was walking around looking for guitar pics and seen him at the sound board, i walked up and he was a friendly as could be took a pic with me super nice guy 👍🏻
This was in my waiting list for a week now. I heard the news about Kiss sold there catalogue. I Wish I listened to this podcast earlier before the news. After this interview I feel much better about it. So thank you Mike.
Glad you enjoyed the interview and that it helped fill in the blanks a little for you. Thanks for watching!
Plenty of information!!
Amazing interview!
Congratulations and thanks Mike!!
Great interview,Thanks for the info Doc!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Amazing as always!! Great questions!!!
Excellent interview! Thank you. ❤
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the interview!
Thanks Mike for the interview with Doc. There is always would have should have could have with situations. It would have been nice to put a closer on the “first 50 years” of KISS by recognizing the previous band members, not just in video shots during the last concert. We have seen those before during certain songs. It left a bitter taste in my mouth along with others as to how the concert ended. Anyway, I know that horse has been beaten enough. Thanks again for bringing this for the fans.
Thanks for watching!
Great informative interview Mike. Appreciate you keeping us fans informed. Some very interesting info that answers many questions. Top stuff.
I remember seeing Doc many times in ‘99 when I worked for Island Def Jam in NYC. Super nice guy and still have my signed copy of KISSTORY.
Kiss Paul Stanley was My Idol as a kid !
You should have asked him why did he run away from the scary devil Eddie trunk 😅😅
There's nothing "inquisitorial" about Mike Brunn's interviews 👍.
That's why Doc McGhee was feeling good.
The Avatars will be a KISS show, but "bigger and better!" And "more close and personal". How can Avatars be "personal"?
This man knows how to keep the KISS Army alive!. Then he mentioned Broadway. Will they as next perform on European stages? It's exciting.
The introduction of the Future KISS at the Final show was really perfect.
A "natural fit". His idea, but Doc doesn't exaggerate. And it's great to give credit to the "workers": Robert Long and Ashley "They are KISS". And Paul and Gene are Doc's brothers...
Didn't he even mention Ace's album is great?
All in all it was an interesting and positive interview☀️
Great interview, all the right questions, and well answered by Doc. Just wish we didn't have to wait so long for the avatars!
Thank you Mike! Greets Ruud from Holland
Thanks for watching!
It sounds like they're going to throw everything against the wall and see what sticks. Nostalgia shows, merchandise, and the rest promotional campaigns for future projects. Its going to be tough keeping the brand afloat without the actual band out there. Of course the Cruise assures there will be some kind of performance but that should not surprise anyone. We shall see.
Not 1 dime from me -they are rich enough
@@berniecasey7592 I haven't seen them live since their original farewell tour in 2000. Haven't missed a thing, but I was always curious how these mega egotists were going to close the door and still make money. I think the brand has a better chance in someone else's hands. Taking it away from Paul and Gene is the best thing that can happen. At least if the public wants an honest accounting of history.
@@berniecasey7592Proud to say the very same thing.
I haven't watched Mike's video (and will today) but I recall before the Rediculous Avetars that all of them (including Gene and Paul) could be replaced by actual humans they would carry the torch. Kind of like Menudo. But they must have thought the Avatars were a better idea. WHATEVER!
14:40 Oswald Cobblepot doubling down on the Avatar announcement at the last show being “perfect”.
You are a great interviewer Mike
Thanks for those kind words.
Great interview
Yeah, the golden tickets were MSG exclusive, except you could just go to the PPV website and buy one if you weren't even at MSG and even if you didn't buy the PPV. I was there on Dec 2nd AND I purchased the PPV so my sick mom back home in Iowa could kind of in a way experience the concert with me. Not even a hint of a ticket. When I found out anyone that wasn't even there could just go buy one, I didn't even want it anymore. The last show was supposed to be something special and really, it was just like any other show you can watch on youtube. An expensive disappointment. Best part of the whole thing was that I got to see NYC for the first time and meet a lot of random Kiss shirt wearing fans all day from all over the world.
That's what happens when you watch a kiss concert on you tube before you see them live. You already know everything that is going to happen. Its like knowing all your Christmas presents before they are wrapped. The surprise is gone..
Just been announced here on the bbc Kiss have sold the catalogue and brand to the Swedish company that are doing the avatars for $300 million
Tbh I'd expect that for the music but surely the brand is worth way way more
Did you go see Ace at Sony Hall tonight?
Mike, I've got to hand it to you these interviews are getting more in-depth and informative as time goes by. Doc appears to be more forthright now albeit he still is vague on the KISS-plan about the next 3 years. Real fans wonder if there is a third-party investor involved with the AI avatar push and the duplication of the COTN box-set. Worthwhile time spent, thanks Mike.
Mike this was an excellent interview. Thank you for your hard work and dedication. You asked some excellent questions and great subject matter. One thing i was hoping to hear is if theyre going to do a box set and bluray of the last shows. I went to the Baltimore show which is my hometown and the Dec 2 show. I noticed a whole lot of cameras floating around. So im hoping to see something commemorating those last shows.
Great job Mike!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
After attending 4 of last 5 Kiss Kruises I would hate to miss more but I'm sure they won't adjust the price despite the presumed loss of Kiss playing shows on the boat. The Kiss Kruise already cost a lot more than other music cruises. The premium could probably be justified since you're getting multiple Kiss shows on the boat. Without that, the premium doesn't make sense to me.
Do you get a discount because you have to hang out with KISStards?
Great questions. Thanks for getting these answers.
Great interview 😊
Will the avatars be playing the guys in the bio-pic, or are they just going to get Timothee Chalamet to play the members of the band...?
Great interview. He was ambiguous about the brand being sold but it sounds like the merch is going to be handled by a different company, maybe KISSONLINE is going to be sold off. I would have been curious if they want to do a paid subscription app/website where it would be multimedia and exclusives. The impression I got about the Avatars is they have a pretty good idea of whats going to be launched, but there may be some things that may or may not happen.
I want to work at the Rock n Brews in New York City!!!!!!
Great interview short but with a lot information, the only thing i don't see happening is new music I feel that Paul not want to simple as that, for the rest time will tell
Wow, great interview again Mike!
Mike, you rule!!!
You are very kind. Glad you enjoyed the interview.
I can’t believe that I got put on deployment during this time… I’m obsessed with Kiss and from New York City :(
the kiss kruise idea was awesome no other band does this
All the right questions, Mike. So interesting info a lot of us wanted to know right from the man. Wonder what's the company they've team with, music/record co? Marketing? We'll see in a few months.
And for the dates, new Kruise in the summer? Maybe Europe?
Great interview thank you Mike.
I hope Peter and Ace have involvement with the biopic
A good/tough question would be around where did the Icon logos come from? I understand that they were taken without compensation/acknowledgement from the artist.
Great interview!!
Excellent interview Mike, lots of great information.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Kiss krews would be fun!!
Lots of words. Let's see in a few months how many are true.
I could say that about every human being, including you.
I always hoped that whenever the Biopic finally comes out, the actors who play the respected members of Kiss Will be the actual official sort of replacements in the band in terms of a live format. But it looks like they are going this Avatar's route, and it seems they are putting so much money into that. I hope that works out as they hope it will be. I've always loved Doc. He comes across as somebody you could "shoot the shit" with. He is great. Excellent interview, as always, Mike!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Great interview but it was very vague on the box sets will they be deluxe editions of their classic albums or what?
They will continue with the deluxe editions as they did with Destroyer and Creatures Of The Night.
Generally a good interview, and did ask some tough questions, but I feel like you should’ve asked him about his admission that Paul’s vocals were “enhanced” on the EOTR tour.
I covered that in my last interview with him.
100,000 great questions.
Great interview 👍 nice!
Great video! it is really interesting to see the KISS brand works. Your channel is great! Thank you. So there is mention of documentaries of the End of the Road tour and avatars. I have heard alot of negative responses to the avatars. in the interview i heard mention also of avavtars and "superhero realms", and it doing the ABBA things witch is supercool, however i have an idea. it is this..maybe use the avatars to finish the Elder ? Use them to make the Elder finally acutally make sense? its a concept they did with Ezrin right after he made Pink Floyd's The Wall no? Make it come together? It's a pretty cool album. But you could watch it? that would sick. anyway if you like the idea, pass it along since you talk to them. Cheers!
Good interview
The PPV camera work at MSG was terrible. Don't get actual fans who know the show to do it, don't do that...
What are the box sets they are talking about?
ALL my money goes to Ace Frehley these days the hell with Gene & Paul - KISS is dead to me.
box set 1 in 50 years what us fans want UNRELESED studio keep it coming !!!! this time make it for the fans !!!!1
Knoxville was cancelled. Not Nashville 😉
Yeah, misspoke. 😩
How does a person get in contact with Doc if there is a problem?
@@therockexperiencewithmikeb8365hey Mike. Do you have an email I can reach out to you on. There’s an initiative I’ve been working on to honor Kiss and I wanted to discuss it further with you.
i hope the bio pic movie comes out good
Kiss is inmortal
So where do we email Doc about the Dubai stuff we didn’t receive? What is the email address?
Can you message me on my Facebook page “Rock Experience with Mike Brunn”. You can find the link to the page in the description on this video.
@@therockexperiencewithmikeb8365 will do
I just saw Ace Frehley last year. Awesome guitar player does a great job vocals or what they are, but I enjoyed the show. I didn’t have to go to a kitty show like I do with kids sit with all the 10-year-olds.
Woohoo! And now I’m excited
I'm not interested in paying money to see the avatars "live". I hope instead they'd do something like an animated series of their personas like the Psycho Circus comic book.
I’m praying those avatar things don’t come out it looks like a Scooby do episode.love kiss just think is a bad idea
Cheaper to have a Tribute Band ⚡⚡
Fun fact hes my grandpa
Doc looks like he’s hours from the grave. Yikes.
The guy is nothing but a money man. He doesn’t have a creative bone in his body. Kiss needed another mgr with a vision like Aucoin. From the Reunion era until EOTR was mostly pathetic. Doc could make them money which is all they cared about, but he was a yes man and never took Kiss to the next level. Same old shit. Spitting flammable fluid at an open flame, same gimmicks that were cool on 1974. He never developed them. Just more TSO like shows. Would have loved for someone to guide them into making more than 3 albums in 25 years and basically the same stale show and setlist. I know $ is king to these guys, but growing and developing is something a good mgr would do. He didn’t. Just all about the cash. No creativity at all.
100%. Talk about being stuck in the 70s.
These suckers should either pay back Or fulfill the contracts from the 2020show…I wont buy a single thing again of them before I get my stuff… Internet offers releases also for free, thats where I will head to as mong as Kiss owes me compensation for what I paid money for…
did you ask about the blatant lip syncing and backing tracks couldn't be bothered listening
Does Vinny Vincent get a slice of that 300 million or due to the fact that he didn’t sign forfeits some financial royalties?????
How many ex members do actually get a slice of that three hundred million??????
They better perform with make up on the cruise otherwise, what’s the point of the KISS Kruise?
Paul Stanley seminar on artisan pizzas, Gene Simmons bass playing masterclass on how to get Bruce Kulick to record all your bass parts for 11 years, Tommy Thayer masterclass on spouting. Eric Singer doesn’t care enough to show up.
The best show on the kruise has been without make up.
Used to be a big Fan,,,,,,,,,,,,but i am sick of seeing demon donut throwing up them devils horns every damn time anyone takes a picture of him,,,,,,,,
LOL
You've never been a fan if that all it takes to not be a fan.
Perhaps a good question was to ask him why Doc got convicted of smuggling 40,000 pounds of marijuana into the US back in 82.
I realize we all get older but Doc looks really ROUGH 😮
nice dentures! 🤣
its gonna be a real shit show, just like the EOTR .. zero dignity, 2027
That photo is a laff fest gene and Paul with their little brothers lol and doc omg
Docs hairs disappeared again !
Tgheyve never been superheros to me
GS doesnt have the body for it
PS. is a bit on the softer side
TT. welll who is heee , really
ES....cat man...well I can relate i guess cuz he likes puzzy
same ole
Good video. Intro is wayyyyyy too long.
God only knows how theyre gonna "take it to the next level" when the band is barely functioning.
Terrible interview ..but i do like ur collection
im not down with this its not for the fans hasnt been in years sold US OUT - they wont recover - thanks for NOTHING all about the money - MONEY GRAB
Avatar's what the hell... but who knows it may be better than people with Peter and Ace's makeup on and backing tapes...kiss is dead to me
Oh it was def the baddest show you have ever done. Lol it was bad . Lame exit.
Hi Ace
@@Pamplemousse82322
@@Pamplemousse82322 😅🖐
What did people expect 😶
So you’re the manager of the band and you don’t know what’s happening with the product being given out to the fans at KISS shows? No offense, but it’s looking at the history. You have the massive Dubai screwup with the pay-per-view and now the golden ticket fiasco where people obviously hoarded the tickets and put them on eBay up to $1500 each until KISS online set it straight and dropped them for sale for a reasonable price. This is just my own opinion there needs to be more accountability for what happens less excuse making…
I hope the precedent being set by the $900 Creatures of the Night superset isn’t going to be a continuous cycle for us now that the band has retired
more money garb from piss
Well congrats, it did end as one of the bad est show's you've done. Didn't want to go down memory lane"" you say? What a piss poor excuse for putting on a final show without celebrating it with the fans from beginning to end. I still haven't watched it in it's entirety and doubt I ever will.
Doc is the worst thing to ever happen to kiss
All their concerts are lip-synch
These guys haven’t been relevant in 40 years
And then the MSG invited an irrelevant band to play two nights... Why on earth did they do that?