Do NOT draw smaller voltages like that from the battery, as it will result in pretty severe unbalancing and could cause an early death of the battery. If you're spectacularly unlucky, it's conceivable it could even cause a fire. You need to have another battery specifically for those motors.
you don’t have to do any mechanical modification ,simply change the ESC to VESC75 , EVEN with the STOCK motor , M365 is capable of reaching more than 60 km/h with 20s batery
Issue is that that's a crappy clone and not an m365, im myself a Mi Essential owner and i went 44kmh on just the stock ESC, on 10s/36v with just different software(SHFW if wondering), only hardware mods at the time was just swapping the battery from the 5.1ah one to a pro 2's 12.4ah one, same voltage PS : at this point in time it's a 48v beast that goes up to 54kmh on flat ground w/o wind
Is there a reason you use American units rather than metric? You clearly are Dutch, live in the Netherlands, so using km/h, kilograms and the rest of the metric would make more sense for the largest part of the world.
I suggest using 3d printed nylon cf ring gear/ internal mashing gear on the wheel ,metal motor gear combined with vesc75200, 6384 motor or 8080 motor, 20s3p battery😊
But seriously, I am now genuinely curious about how much lift you could create with a hub motor of an electric scooter🤔 So I added it to the list with possible future projects if you don't mind?🤓
@@ConceptCraftedCreations Sounds awesome. Not sure which design might be better; a regular helicopter (lighter weight but less powerful), or a quad copter (heavier weight, bur more powerful). Maybe a compromise with a dual rotor with contra rotating blades. That would be a simpler design, and could still be done with a single motor. With the blades rotating in opposite directions, the gyroscopic forces would cancel out. A quad copter using four motors would be ambitious and complex, and would cost a lot more to make. Either a regular single rotor helicopter or a dual rotor helicopter using one motor would be the most cost effective since you already have the materials. A dual rotor helicopter with a scooter motor for each rotor would be another option and wouldn't be too cost prohibitive. Food for thought. Be really interesting to see the results.
@@Eidolon1andOnly But a helicopter needs a swash plate system. That would be very complicated. A dual helicopter would also need that. Quadcopters are used so much because they don't need swash plates and are relatively simple because of that. To use a scooter hub motor with a propeller is a very interesting idea though because it has a lot of torque. That means it can have a very big propeller, which is good, because the bigger the propeller is, the more efficient it gets. (low disc loading => more efficiency)
Tapping into the Battery somewhere in the middle really isnt a good idea. Especially with something that draws power. You'll throw the pack out of balance so charging with balancing takes forever. If the bms can even handle these huge differences.
You should use external lock-washers between the plastic plate and bolts, screwing the bolt directly on to the plastic will wear it out or worse, crack it.
Enjoyed the video but saw no mention of giving credit to Great Scott's footage. I did see his watermark but no mention of him would be careful of using other content without their knowledge. Seen that in the model train community recently.
there's something wrong with the charger you're using. It's a 13s2p battery, full charge voltage should be 54.6V You are missing a whole lot of SoC there
@@ConceptCraftedCreations I would love to see that happening Optional: Why not name it the Arrax drive afterwards hehe just kidding Anyway would love to see you try and build one
@@ArraxShadowfang I think it's a good one.. 🤓credit where credit is due, right? Let's agree that if I manage to make a working version, I promise to call it the Arrax drive in the video! Named after the person who came up with the idea.. And to be honest.. I also think Arrax drive sounds cool! 😎
@@ConceptCraftedCreations mostly torque however i cannot compare one to one since i also replaced drivers for flipsky 75100 and even on the same voltage speed was increased due to clear sinewave so with two of them at 10s i got about 40-45 km/h measured by gps however with 13s battery i got to 65km/h (i had to use 14s with single motor and old driver in order to drive around 45km/h)
5:19 I love your content but my dog HATES those "Dings" you keep editing in. Please stop using that and never use the 1000hz tone to cut scenes as it can set off peoples gear and scare my GSD. She has bad hips so stuffs hard for her. I build 3D printers in Detroit USA. Stuff with AC relays and AC heaters & MIC-6 beds. Anyway keep up the content. Inspiring my mid drive ebike build.
@ConceptCraftedCreations that would be awesome. I would love to try it as transportation is always important and money is not always available to take us where we want to go.
this wont boost the speed in anyway as the speed is software locked and wont just go faster cause u added some drone motors to it,, ur more likely to completely destroy ur scooter battery by doing this.. never do this..
@ConceptCraftedCreations do u know physics? Of course, if u drive downhill u move faster but its not under the scooters own power its called downwards gravity ur not going faster under the scooters own power therefore your not faster.
@ConceptCraftedCreations the drone motors are not a good addition caue of the power hold your just going to damage your scooter that way, if u want to unlock your scooters max speed use custom firmware like everyone else does its the safer method
the power rating of most BLDCs is the electrical power CONSUMED. NOT the SHAFT output. but, as always, we shall forget important facts like that when making these pointless types of videos.
Do NOT draw smaller voltages like that from the battery, as it will result in pretty severe unbalancing and could cause an early death of the battery. If you're spectacularly unlucky, it's conceivable it could even cause a fire. You need to have another battery specifically for those motors.
I was like, that was smart lol
Only part to disagree with is that it's not gonna cause a fire, li-ion just dies when overdischarged, li-po is what combusts into flames
Or just use a beefy enough buck converter ;)
@fallingwater I will not recommend it for permanent use indeed.. But for this test I didn't think it was a problem🤓
@minimalskill6592 That would be a good option indeed👌
The algorithm suggested your channel - and I love it! Definitely an underrated maker channel... Keep it up!
Thanks man! 🙌 I really appreciate this!
When you want that after-burner experience, but with a scooter!
you don’t have to do any mechanical modification ,simply change the ESC to VESC75 , EVEN with the STOCK motor , M365 is capable of reaching more than 60 km/h with 20s batery
Serious?😮
Issue is that that's a crappy clone and not an m365, im myself a Mi Essential owner and i went 44kmh on just the stock ESC, on 10s/36v with just different software(SHFW if wondering), only hardware mods at the time was just swapping the battery from the 5.1ah one to a pro 2's 12.4ah one, same voltage
PS : at this point in time it's a 48v beast that goes up to 54kmh on flat ground w/o wind
@@PureComedi Beast💪
I legit thought you were saying you drove that scooter at 50 MPH, and I was worried for your saftey
Sorry! Still working on my English pronunciation🤓
@@ConceptCraftedCreations sounded fine to me
@@ConceptCraftedCreations I struggle to understand the difference between 15 and 50 with English speakers as an English as first language person 😅
@heidi5942 Glad to hear Then it's not necessarily my fault😅
@docmalc47 Thanks mate!😎
Is there a reason you use American units rather than metric? You clearly are Dutch, live in the Netherlands, so using km/h, kilograms and the rest of the metric would make more sense for the largest part of the world.
Maybe he's trying to appeal to an American audience
I suggest using 3d printed nylon cf ring gear/ internal mashing gear on the wheel ,metal motor gear combined with vesc75200, 6384 motor or 8080 motor, 20s3p battery😊
Now see if a large drone can be boosted with an electric scooter motor 😜
But seriously, I am now genuinely curious about how much lift you could create with a hub motor of an electric scooter🤔 So I added it to the list with possible future projects if you don't mind?🤓
@@ConceptCraftedCreations Sounds awesome. Not sure which design might be better; a regular helicopter (lighter weight but less powerful), or a quad copter (heavier weight, bur more powerful). Maybe a compromise with a dual rotor with contra rotating blades. That would be a simpler design, and could still be done with a single motor. With the blades rotating in opposite directions, the gyroscopic forces would cancel out. A quad copter using four motors would be ambitious and complex, and would cost a lot more to make. Either a regular single rotor helicopter or a dual rotor helicopter using one motor would be the most cost effective since you already have the materials. A dual rotor helicopter with a scooter motor for each rotor would be another option and wouldn't be too cost prohibitive. Food for thought. Be really interesting to see the results.
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@Eduardo_Espinoza Thanks for the support🙌
@@Eidolon1andOnly But a helicopter needs a swash plate system. That would be very complicated. A dual helicopter would also need that. Quadcopters are used so much because they don't need swash plates and are relatively simple because of that.
To use a scooter hub motor with a propeller is a very interesting idea though because it has a lot of torque. That means it can have a very big propeller, which is good, because the bigger the propeller is, the more efficient it gets. (low disc loading => more efficiency)
Thanks!
Tapping into the Battery somewhere in the middle really isnt a good idea. Especially with something that draws power. You'll throw the pack out of balance so charging with balancing takes forever. If the bms can even handle these huge differences.
It is indeed not recommended for long-term use! But for this test I didn't think it would be a problem🤓
I predict your speed camera robot is gonna shoot you with paint! 😂😂😂
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THAT is what I am talking about.. very nice,.. SUBBED!
Thanks man!😎 Glad you liked it and thanks for the support👌
have u seen the new 1000 watts DJI e-bike motor and their new high end battery?
Not yet but i will definitely look into it👌
Ik ruik een flink Nederlands accent. Maar hoe dan ook super leuke video, zoals alles wat ik van je heb gezien.
Dankjewel! En dat heb je helemaal goed👌
Nice video 👍
Thanks! Appreciate it👌
You should use external lock-washers between the plastic plate and bolts, screwing the bolt directly on to the plastic will wear it out or worse, crack it.
You're absolutely right! And i would if i had them lying around but unfortunately i didn't 🤓
Now that's een mooie applicatie!
Thanks😎
really neat video! subscribed! keep it up!
Thanks! Appreciate it!👌
Great content :)
Could you provide the reduction ratios for the different gears you have tested?
Thanks! Appreciate it👌 The gear ratios where:
18 mph - 7.5 : 1
22 mph - 6.0 : 1
29 mph - 4.5 : 1
use high power drill like Milwaukee and steel gears. that drill can give out 1200lb. torque on 1500 rpm. +bataries are undead and motor is brushless
I actually thought of using my Makita drill.. Maybe a fun project for the future?🤓
Dude decided he needed a scooter with after burners!
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Waarom gebruik je niet het metrische systeem? Je bent toch geen American? Verder goede video!
Dankje👌En dat komt omdat bijna 70% van de kijkers van mijn video's tot zover uit de verenigde staten komen🤓
Nice video :)
Thanks man👍
Saddens me to not see a intricate gear assembly with many moving parts 😢
And is that based on my previous projects or is that just what you would like to see in a video?🤓
What filament are the 3d prints?
Nice video. Can you make an E-Bike from scratch one day?
I added it to my list with possible future projects👍
Enjoyed the video but saw no mention of giving credit to Great Scott's footage. I did see his watermark but no mention of him would be careful of using other content without their knowledge. Seen that in the model train community recently.
Thanks for the feedback👌 I thought the watermark would be enough (sort of) But i will add a extra mention in the video description!
Мне нравится как текстуры асфальта прогружаются по мере движения. Это доказывает что мы живем в матрице.
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Good mind . Thank you .
Thanks for the support👌
there's something wrong with the charger you're using. It's a 13s2p battery, full charge voltage should be 54.6V
You are missing a whole lot of SoC there
Or u can use 3000w eskate motors
An Electric Scooter CVT. Nice.
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Try and make a CVT for the motors
Would be an interesting project! Maybe a fully 3D printed version?
@@ConceptCraftedCreations I would love to see that happening
Optional: Why not name it the Arrax drive afterwards hehe just kidding
Anyway would love to see you try and build one
@@ArraxShadowfang I think it's a good one.. 🤓credit where credit is due, right?
Let's agree that if I manage to make a working version, I promise to call it the Arrax drive in the video! Named after the person who came up with the idea..
And to be honest.. I also think Arrax drive sounds cool! 😎
@@ConceptCraftedCreations Love it and it would be fun to watch
@@ConceptCraftedCreations
Any progress on the new drive ?. Just curious
Glad I'm not the only one in the comments concerned about battery balance.
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I'm curious to know why these motors are not suitable for this kind of use though
If only batteryhookup was an EU company
We have NKON. Not *quite* the same deals, but there are some pretty good ones on occasion.
Sorry! Unfortunately I can't do anything about that🤔
you can change software on ur m365 and it will go 34 km/h with all stock parts easily
Thanks! Did not know that.. Will definitely look into it👌
Highly illegal, and straight up stupid thing to do on a scooter...
Gawd damn
In a good way or a bad way?😄
I have entered this video to say i have just put second motor on the rear which was cheap and easy to do
Good one! And did it also increase top speed?
@@ConceptCraftedCreations mostly torque however i cannot compare one to one since i also replaced drivers for flipsky 75100 and even on the same voltage speed was increased due to clear sinewave so with two of them at 10s i got about 40-45 km/h measured by gps however with 13s battery i got to 65km/h (i had to use 14s with single motor and old driver in order to drive around 45km/h)
This will cause fire when you have cells discharging at different rates
It is indeed not recommended for long-term use, but for this test alone it is not such a problem, I thought🤓
Where do you have helmet
I forgot🤔
5:19 I love your content but my dog HATES those "Dings" you keep editing in. Please stop using that and never use the 1000hz tone to cut scenes as it can set off peoples gear and scare my GSD. She has bad hips so stuffs hard for her. I build 3D printers in Detroit USA. Stuff with AC relays and AC heaters & MIC-6 beds. Anyway keep up the content. Inspiring my mid drive ebike build.
Thanks for the feedback! Will keep it in mind👌
Should've used your speedbot to record your speed 😂
Combining each new project with the last😄
@@ConceptCraftedCreations lol a daisy chain of creation ecosystem 😂
Can't they just add a gearbox and use a much smaller motor?
it is possible👌But much less efficient
I would love to get the stl files to try it myself.
I can upload them to Cults if you want?🤓
@ConceptCraftedCreations that would be awesome. I would love to try it as transportation is always important and money is not always available to take us where we want to go.
@@ConceptCraftedCreations what kind of scooter is that you are using?
@@ConceptCraftedCreationsyes pelase, could you tell me the name of the stl files or how to search them ? Thank you, Great video
Waarom doe je alles in mph als je Nederlands bent 😅
De reden daarvan is omdat 70% van de mensen die mijn video's tot nu toe heeft gekeken uit de verenigde staten komt😅
this wont boost the speed in anyway as the speed is software locked and wont just go faster cause u added some drone motors to it,, ur more likely to completely destroy ur scooter battery by doing this.. never do this..
So you are saying that when i drive downhill the scooter slows down?
@ConceptCraftedCreations do u know physics? Of course, if u drive downhill u move faster but its not under the scooters own power its called downwards gravity ur not going faster under the scooters own power therefore your not faster.
@ConceptCraftedCreations the drone motors are not a good addition caue of the power hold your just going to damage your scooter that way, if u want to unlock your scooters max speed use custom firmware like everyone else does its the safer method
the power rating of most BLDCs is the electrical power CONSUMED.
NOT the SHAFT output.
but, as always, we shall forget important facts like that when making these pointless types of videos.
Who said it's the power on the shaft output? 😮