Bonjour à tous ! J'ai souvent des questions relatives à cette vidéo que j'ai mise en ligne en 2008 (UA-cam n'existait que depuis 3 ans !) car c'est un document rare et riche en enseignement. À l'époque UA-cam bénéficiait d'une messagerie privée qui a été retirée au bout de quelques années. Si vous avez des questions sur cette vidéo contactez moi sur ma messagerie Instagram : instagram.com/cyrilhda1?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
I used to watch this when I was training for another sport over a decade ago, this series is great! It's so old-school and obviously most of the training is sport-specific however there is so much carryover/overlap with strength sports that I picked up a few things/adapted them to my sport. Every athlete can learn a thing or two from these videos!
it wouldnt be in the 500s thats for sure, the all time world record in the clean and jerk is 586 so i dont think its posible for anyone to power clean 500 like that for triples. but this man is one of the best athletes i have ever seen.
I know several different people who have seen him jerk behind the neck 260+ kg when he was in Lille (France) in the 90's for a competition One of the most athletics specimen ever for sure, Jean Pierre Egger his coach said he was the most athletic specimen he has ever seen, which considering his blend of size (6'7 285lbs), strength, explosivness, speed etc is definitively believable. ps : power clean must have been in the 180 range
Well first of all tyson was not "small" and in throwing being big IS important having more mass is gonna help you throw the shot farther. not to say you cant throw far while being smaller, just helps. And for the ratio thing who cares if his ratio isnt higher than a smaller guys, hes a track athlete not a weightlifter. The ratio thing is just something people use for being weaker than a person thats bigger, and im 185 lbs, just be stronger than him then theres no debate.
Is Gunthor power cleaning nearly 250kg here?...in easy reps of three or four???...Nooooo!...this is not meant to be possible for a Human! The more I watch Gunthor, the more he freaks me out.
Hey guys you all forget about strength/bodyweight ratio; so he could bench 200kg but that " just" makes 1,5 bodyweight and his squat is about 1,8~2*bodyweight so strong yes but compared someone weighting less than him assuming that he weighted about 300lbs/130~140kg. I have the same ratio but with my bodyweight
He was "only" 130kg though. And the bigger you are the smaller your ratio for a variety of reason ( levers length, law of diminishing returns, skeletal structure not being able to endure much more force than smaller people ... ) Btw he did behing the neck jerk with 260+kg. Try finding someone who can do that at his weight spewing BS. ps : and his lifts were reps in the middle of multi modalities training session, definitely not 1RM's. Bench must have been in the 250kg range for sure.
Bonjour à tous ! J'ai souvent des questions relatives à cette vidéo que j'ai mise en ligne en 2008 (UA-cam n'existait que depuis 3 ans !) car c'est un document rare et riche en enseignement. À l'époque UA-cam bénéficiait d'une messagerie privée qui a été retirée au bout de quelques années. Si vous avez des questions sur cette vidéo contactez moi sur ma messagerie Instagram : instagram.com/cyrilhda1?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
I used to watch this when I was training for another sport over a decade ago, this series is great! It's so old-school and obviously most of the training is sport-specific however there is so much carryover/overlap with strength sports that I picked up a few things/adapted them to my sport. Every athlete can learn a thing or two from these videos!
the power clean at the end is insane! the man was a modern Hercules
i met this guy in zurich in 1991, didn't know who he was. he's a giant, absolutely huge. seen taller, but never seen anyone wider/thicker, ever.
Un modèle.
it wouldnt be in the 500s thats for sure, the all time world record in the clean and jerk is 586 so i dont think its posible for anyone to power clean 500 like that for triples. but this man is one of the best athletes i have ever seen.
I know several different people who have seen him jerk behind the neck 260+ kg when he was in Lille (France) in the 90's for a competition
One of the most athletics specimen ever for sure, Jean Pierre Egger his coach said he was the most athletic specimen he has ever seen, which considering his blend of size (6'7 285lbs), strength, explosivness, speed etc is definitively believable.
ps : power clean must have been in the 180 range
i love how luigi is the trainer
This man could slaughter an army of normal mortals.
I need to lie down to contemplate what I've just witnessed....I've never seen a human flick about nearly a quarter tonne with such ease and disdain.
@mister100m maybe, maybe, but you will never throw shot put 22.75
@EndlersaurusRex certainly and counterproductive too
@Strongfit the same was said about mike Tyson...
@desembodic Big body need big strength not to throw far but to support and move their BIG body
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Werner Gunthor, taille deux mètres, poids de forme, 130 kg...
Werner Gunthor : 2 mètres, 130 kg...La masse, plus la taille pour la puissance des bras de levier. Une biomécanique idéale pour la discipline.
@mister100m Ratios becoming significantly less valuable as weight increases.
Power cleans with 190+!!!
@chris gute well said. That ratio argument is so annoying ha
You MUST be a small guy to use that rational
@Vojvodaaaa Pavel sofin threw 20+ with just 200lbs bodyweight
mister100m
It's irrelevant, 20 Metres is not good enough for anything.
Impressive at 200 lbs. never the less.
C’te bœuf !!!
Well first of all tyson was not "small" and in throwing being big IS important having more mass is gonna help you throw the shot farther. not to say you cant throw far while being smaller, just helps. And for the ratio thing who cares if his ratio isnt higher than a smaller guys, hes a track athlete not a weightlifter. The ratio thing is just something people use for being weaker than a person thats bigger, and im 185 lbs, just be stronger than him then theres no debate.
@Ingar87
You need to learn french....!
abaout 250 max
Is Gunthor power cleaning nearly 250kg here?...in easy reps of three or four???...Nooooo!...this is not meant to be possible for a Human! The more I watch Gunthor, the more he freaks me out.
More like 180ish, but he is still one of the most athletic big men ever, if not the most
@@Miiiiiiighty How do you get 180ish. He clearly has 8 plates plus 2 x 10Kg plates.
Hey guys you all forget about strength/bodyweight ratio; so he could bench 200kg but that " just" makes 1,5 bodyweight and his squat is about 1,8~2*bodyweight so strong yes but compared someone weighting less than him assuming that he weighted about 300lbs/130~140kg.
I have the same ratio but with my bodyweight
He was "only" 130kg though.
And the bigger you are the smaller your ratio for a variety of reason ( levers length, law of diminishing returns, skeletal structure not being able to endure much more force than smaller people ... )
Btw he did behing the neck jerk with 260+kg.
Try finding someone who can do that at his weight spewing BS.
ps : and his lifts were reps in the middle of multi modalities training session, definitely not 1RM's.
Bench must have been in the 250kg range for sure.