Elite Dangerous Review 2023 - The game you HATE to LOVE...
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In todays 2023 Elite Dangerous review, Reggie asks if it's still worth it, especially for new players when the troubles of Elite are so well documented. Well fear not my pedigree chums because I'll go into exactly why this is the best and worst space sim in recent times.
For those who want the two mods I use:
Ed Engineer: Check out this great Tutorial on set up • Tutorial: Engineering ...
ED Market Connector: Another great tutorial on the set up. • Quickies: ED Market Co...
Both of these mods are small tools but invaluable for helping with the grind.
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Take control of your own starship in a cutthroat galaxy. Elite Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic.
RECENT REVIEWS: Mostly Positive (392)
ALL REVIEWS: Mostly Positive (64,140)
RELEASE DATE: Apr 2, 2015
DEVELOPER: Frontier Developments
PUBLISHER: Frontier Developments
INTRO: 00:00
GAMEPLAY: 01:13
ISSUES: 05:31
VR: 09:57
GRAPHICS: 11:34
SOUND: 12:48
CONCLUSION: 13:32 - Ігри
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Even with all it's issues, I'm nearing my 400 hours and just can't seem to put it down. I just wish the developers were in touch with the community more. Still an Elite fan?
Excellent review, and you nail it... in your own special way! I'm someone that played the original Elite on the first generation of microcomputers back in the 80s. Man I played that game to death, back then there was just nothing else like it. I got into ED on PS4 back in 2017. It's a sorrow to me that I've never experienced the game in VR, but I've just never had the time/opportunity/money to get a gaming PC and collect all the necessary bits and pieces. I actually had to sell my PS4 and move to a different country in 2019, but I made a promise to myself to get a PS5 when ED was updated for the next generation of consoles. So you can imagine how I felt about the news that it was NEVER going to be. A freaking disgrace, of which Frontier should be ashamed. So I ended up buying a second-hand PS4 and playing the game again from scratch, just for nostalgia really. Like you I discover the moments of greatness again... and the deep suckiness of the grind and the course of recent events. Perhaps there is still hope, perhaps Frontier will pull off a No Man's Sky and realize what a piece of greatness ED is. Gotta be honest though, I look at all that running around and shooting with _Fifth Element_ style guns in the Odyssey videos and feel utterly underwhelmed. I actually detest FPS games, sad to see ED turning into one.
@@Raygo. you are exactly the sort of player that made elite dangerous such a special community who frontier left behind. It’s a real shame. But thank you if for sharing your story lad. Totally appreciate it!
400 hours? I have over 5k and I'm still going.
@@tweaked7476 you have a much bigger penis lad
I got ED for free late 2020 with epic launcher, i downloaded the game by curiosity and fall in love minutes later during the tutorial. Almost 2 years later I have something like 1.5k hours and I keep coming back from time to time, especially for the current storyline.
I wish frontier development put more money in the game to fill the lack of gameplay here and there and to answer the expectations of the players. But it's still a good space game that, I hope, will have a very successful future.
The thing to consider about ED is that there is no GRINDING if you can just get out of the HURRY HURRY RUSH RUSH to the final boss and end credits. It's only a grind if you get in a hurry. I've logged over 12,000 hours playing ED. I have all the ships, and the fleet carrier. I have Elite rank in Trade, Exploration, as well as Combat. The parts you don't like, you can simply ignore.
what can you suggest to a new player to avoid the grindfest? we are adults now with limited time, I love exploration, will it suffice?
@@Lothaii just do what you like doing. You can go from the starter Sidewinder to flying an Anaconda in under 20 hours of game play doing absolutely nothing but exploring. And go a very long way to completing the GRIND for either Empire or Federation rank to unlock ships in the process. Only needing to complete the various rank up missions. Bounty Hunting is an excellent means of collecting both data and manufactured mats if you use a ship with limpets and a collection limpet controller. And make decent credits in the process. Up to you how much risk you take. Mining is a great way to make money relatively fast once you get the hang of it. But just putting a single mining laser and collector limpet controller on your ship you can pick up Raw mats from any asteroid ring or belt. You can get by without the collector limpets but it's a lot more work.
While trekkiing out to unlock the various Guardian modules or farm the high level raw mats can feel all grindy and stuff. Bringing a friend along (operating as a Wing) can result in quite a bit of pure fun and shenanigans in the process of getting the stuff you went there for. Enough fun to make you forget it was supposed to be a boring assed grind to do.
Strictly Exploring can take a bit longer if you're just sort of doing it hit or miss. If you really want to go that route there are guides written and researched and videos posted to go from that starter Sidewinder to flying an Anaconda. While completing almost all of the rank grind to unlock either the Federal Corvette or the Imperial Cutter in right at 14 hours of game play. And having something akin to a billion credits to your name in the process.
Exactly. What people REFUSE to understand is that you're not meant to be in a Federal Corvette in a week or even a month. A lot of this stuff is meant to take time. It's why a Power Play module takes 4 weeks to unlock.
Progression is supposed to take REAL time. If you collect mats as you "live your life" you'll gradually start unlocking stuff.
You'll have a lot more fun if you just set yourself some personal goals and complete them without always worrying about when you're getting end game ships.
The people who complain about the grind are doing it to themselves. In the 6 years I've been playing, I haven't had to grind a day in my life.
1) Abandon the fps side (keep space legs and stations)
2) Focus on making the space flight part richer and deeper with engaging multi layered narrative and interesting things to do, discover and influence.
3) Incorporate VR across everything
4) Develop ship interiors.
Nailed it Tom lad. That’s what us fans crave.
One of my drop dead number one favorite moments in my limited Star Citizen alpha playtime was flying my Freelancer out to a derelict station, getting up out of the seat, walking back into the cargo hold, manually opening the rear ramp and EVAing out into space, maneuvering myself into the station via jetpack and then around the interior. That's the kind of comprehensive space sim experience I want and it doesn't seem like ED is ever going to deliver that.
We have been saying this since 2014 unfortunately with how the game works ships are place holders they arent physical things in the game outside of a collision box. They would have to rework the entire game.
If you were really Tom Bombadil you would have made a song out of this.
this is all i want mate
once you play elite in VR, you can NEVER go back. I'm waiting for VR to be implemented in odysse on foot so i return
I went from VR to 2k screen. It was just too messy for me to handle things like Discord (I am in a playergroup that has a PMF in the game) when in VR. And I do not miss the VR to be honest. It gets old quite quickly and the hazzle with the headset, cables etc is just not for me. It is a great experience the first 2-3 hours though.
That will never happen. VR was killed after Odyssey release.
i agree, Elite is 100% a VR game, there is just no way I play this game without a headset. i do miss a few things like external tools and its a pain to take the headset off just to lookup somethings on inara because the donkeys at frontier are unable to provide essential stuff in-game, but hey still, I would never go back to flat game.
What appeals to me about Elite Dangerous is that I feel insignificant. I’m a nobody with a starship in a universe of nobodys with starships. Anything I do is because I want to do it and it only *really* benefits me. Sure I can add my drop of water to the ocean of community goals and stuff, but I only do them when I want to. I forge my own path, and at this point mainly to spite frontier.
I'm also a huge fan of using Voice Attack with the game. Yes, it's a paid product, but the ability to verbally command your ship is so nice (ESPECIALLY with the number of controls this game has). I pair it with the HCS Voice Packs, so I get voices like Tom Baker or Brian Blessed as ship systems. Helps tremendously with the immersion, in my opinion.
@@sose6255 your family hates you
@@sose6255 dude is really in an elite dangerous 2022 review calling people nerds
@@sose6255 I fully endorse it, this sounds so fun
@@sose6255 simp
@@sose6255 cracker
CMDR Smorgasmorgue 1700+ hours in Horizons and I just bought Odyssey a couple weeks ago so I'm trying to figure that out. You are right on that this game is a mile wide and an inch deep. SOOOO much potential in Elite and so many wasted opportunities by the developers. I wish I could try VR but I lost my right eye in 2006 and the left is damaged, so no 3D vision anymore. On the bright side, playing this game while wearing an eyepatch really makes you feel like a pirate!
Great review! I subscribed.
Thank you T-Bone lad, your support is always appreciated from Reggie and the boys. So sorry to hear about your vision situation, but you're one of the gang now and we got your back.
@T Bone I too am blind in one eye and need a contact lens in the other - so normal depth perception is pretty much gone (don't expect me to catch anything tossed my way) - but VR (at least for me) is still amazingly immersive. I have both the original Vive for gaming on the PC and the new PSVR2. It's not like the old 3D movies where you need both eyes to get the 3D effect. If you ever get a chance to try it out somewhere and see if it will work for you, I highly recommend that you do - there is nothing like sitting in the cockpit of your ship in ED and looking up through the canopy at just how vast the space station your are parked in really is. It's pretty awe inspiring.. it's just a shame about the grind.
you can still experience vr without both eyes, it won't be stereoscopic but it will still be immersive and 360 degrees of viewing and make you feel like you're actually in the ship. I've tested this by closing one eye while wearing an oculus quest 2 headset. Give it a try if you can, you might be surprised. Plus one really cool thing is with certain VR software you can disable the right or left side of the view and get 2x the performance out of the device/your computer.
My guilty pleasure is my old type 7. I love the space trucking element and the sound of that ship, it just felt like you were hauling heavy cargo and that the ship was almost shaking itself to bits as you hear it creaking as you accelerated. It's just a shame that when I last played a few years ago, it wasn't as profitable as other methods (mining). I don't regret my time playing, and it is a game to not rush but take your time with (hurry up slowly) and get to appreciate the different ships as you get them. Some locations are truly beautiful. Engineering is a massive pita tho, I unlocked a few bits and it's the thing that made me leave the game in the end. Devs could easily have implemented a progression system for this tied into the different tiers of ships where you unlock basic engineering mods as you get into the bigger and better ships, and then maybe (once you have a ship with a half decent jump range) then switch to more of the current method of grinding in farther away locations for the final higher tier engineering mods.
Have you ever tried Type 10? I just recommend if you want to feel something really big rig behind you. And you can put a fighter bay into it... 😉
can you own a ship about the size of the millenium falcon? If so can you walk around the interiors/customize , customize over all look of a ship? Looking for something like a cargo ship type game that I can chill with friends delivering goods from place to place. Basic Han Solo / guardians of the galaxie fantasy. Is that possible with this game?
@@jubeibob Unfortunately can't walk around the inside of your ship - but there's plenty of ships around that size (as well as bigger and smaller ones).
The game still has by far the best and most intuitive UI for a space sim - even beating Star Citizen (where you can walk around your ship, but the UI and controls feel much more clunky and dysfunctional in comparison)
You can multicrew ships though. Had a lot of fun getting a mate into the game who manned the little snub fighter I had in my ship. Honestly, I'm very tempted of getting back into the game, do some mining, exploring etc.
@@Volkaer Awesome thanks a ton for your comment. Gives me alot to think about!
I've been playing for years, and when I made the jump to VR it caught me off guard on how much better it made the game. I honestly can never go back to mo itor play. THEN I made a hulk leap and built a sim chair... Yeah.. I can't ever play this game without any of my gadgets .. but the devs need to sell this to another company that will give this game more love
Been in the black in my Beluga since 17 December 2018 and am on my way back. Im looking forward to cashing out, changing ships and seeing all of the changes since I left the bubble.
Oh boy this one is difficult to comment on. Back in the day with the Thargoid introduction this game gave me some of the most most unique experiences I've ever had in gaming. The way that Frontier rolled out these elements, with basically little warning or spoiler material for you to encounter on your own was mind blowing at times. I STILL remember my first hyperdiction, very early on before the hype reached YT even. I was genuinely kind of terrified lol. We all know the frustrations since then, the arguments are all too familiar and largely justified. What this game could have been man! oh boy.
Coincidentally agree with 99.5 % of your well presented, heart-felt observations 👍
Finally learning to be a Thargoid killer after being a lover rather than a fighter over the previous 8000+ hours.
Plans and player numbers suggest the game is not yet in decline but the player base needs a few studio wins to feel positive again.
steamcharts say 2000-5000 players. not dead, but pretty much an all time low. doesnt account for console and non steam players but still. i only had about 1000 hours but i got tired of the same shit over and over again and any criticism on the forums just leads to censorship so i gave up on fdev.
@@PatrickRatman Steam says higher than the numbers you give these days, increasing, and in no way an -all time low-
New 'shit' incoming with thargoid (invasion?)
I have to respect your 'give up on Fdev' position. Personally though it seems too dogmatic and emotional.
I think they are showing some ability to learn... Two steps forward, one backward maybe. But the studio is sort of getting better since Odyssey reaction slap in face
@@thelionsam by new shit you mean the same shit we've had for the last 2-3 years with a different paint job? Maybe you get some other BS grind to get the same but slightly different weapons the thargs can't disable and that's probably it? Maybe we get the same garbage ground combat with reskinned thargoid enemies? No new ships, no new game mechanics. All of you fdev cultists spewing the same excuses up to and including "if you don't like it then why do you have x number of hours/don't you leave?" Essentially enabling a company that would have great potential to continue to suck while charging extra to suck even harder lmao. Yeah I've given up on fdev, just as much as I've given up on you people to actually be able to hold them accountable for their BS. I'll come back when they show they're actually willing to change and not just throw out excuses like they always have.
@@thelionsam the thing is that they genuinely care about the game. even if investors and shareholders probably pulled most of the money plug you can still see it crawling ahead.
@@sentry1009 I agree. I feel secure about the immediate-medium term future. I still feel engaged.
I do believe they are to some degree capable of learning from their mistakes even if the learning curve is not what we players might want...
It's worth pointing out.... All of the footage was done on PC. As for console, it goes as far as horizons... That's it... It's a shame they discontinued the updates for consoles... I really enjoy this game
I feel for the console players so much. It really is a shame it happened. Maybe we will see a next gen release one day.
Indeed. Didn't even get PSVR support.
Played the original and was a beta backer with a lifetime pass, Played the beta and submitted over 10 gigs of bug data. Absolutely loved it and this game has cost me a fortune. I bought a Thrustmaster HOTAS and built a button box to make things easier and then upgraded to TrackIr and then a Rift CV1 and then a Rift S. So that's about a grand or more but, VR in this game is mind blowing especially as you say in the shit yourself moments, like taking your eye off the ball when fuel scooping and them Neutrons. Grinded away with the engineers and pimped some pretty tasty upgrades for several ships, so much so a well known griefer from Hogwarts got his bollocks kicked in :). Elite in trading and just off Elite in combat and exploration I think I was. Burnt out after 7 years when odyssey dropped, the wing I was in fell apart due to real life and for me the controls changed. Playing in VR I had a macro program running in the background so a single press on a button on my throttle would perform stuff like permission to dock and the auto dock with out having to go though all the UI menus and loads of others like different power modes. I might have another go sometime, but the game is a massive time suck and you're right about Inara and the third party apps, they are a necessity to guide you, back in Beta you had fuck all and was flying blind. It is a great game with a steep learning curve, but if you take it at your own pace and not try to rush things the grind becomes OK. Oh and if you like mining you should have tried the original mining it was shit, nobody done it and complained like fuck about it, that's why it was changed, the newer mining was far far better. Still is the best space game of this genre although Mass Effect was great and the upcoming Starfields looks interesting, but Elite will always have a place in my heart as I love it and remember the fond times playing it back in 84. I retire soon, so I might pick up where I left off and go for triple Elite.
I think the reason why I love Elite dangerous is the VR capability I haven't played the newest version of the game since I heard VR support is super bad but nothing compares to the sense of scale and immersion you get when you're actually sitting in the cockpit of your viper Mark 3 chasing bounties down in belt clusters
Hard agree. Nothing comes close to the immersion. The vibrations of the reactor, the shadows coming through the cockpit, the subsystems humming away...
You. Are. There.
@@michaelmackebon1000 the only thing that would make it better is if I owned that motion Sim called the yaw that actually physically moves you around in the chair to simulate momentum and movement other than that though a nice comfy office chair with a hotas works well
@@jaredflynn3750 That's been a bucket list item of mine for a few years now!!
One day! Haha
I've logged over 5,000 hours in this game and I still enjoy it quite a bit! I was braced for a scathing, jaded review, but I found yours to be refreshingly fair, with roughly the same gripes and praises that I do. I really do hope that FD will treat Odyssey similarly to Horizons, in that the features will grow and mature over the DLC's lifetime.
I’m currently stuck into NMS. I’ve also done a lot on SC. Bit something about elite continually draws me back. I sometimes wonder if the developers themselves know of the huge potential this game still has. Appreciate the comments commander Wolf!
I have over 3k hrs in ED 2016 VR. Are all these new features VR friendly?
Is there a way to mod so it shows you where to go to get the engineering materials? Like in game. I went back to try engineering and was such a grind and constantly needing to load up another screen to see what I needed was annoying and time consuming. I just want to log in farm some materials and buy new weapons. The grind just kills the game and the need to use mods or websites to find out what to do is ridiculous
I played like 600 hours total before and after the Horizons update. Honestly the only things that kept me going that long were initially the novelty of a flying game with a HOTAS as this was my first, and later some friends I had made. The game itself though was just an empty-feeling grind-fest. I appreciated that the gameplay worked and I wasn't dealing with bugs like I would in SC, but still it was really just a stand-in for the game I really want. I still enjoy flying in other games, but a game where flying is the point is no longer something I can get into.
the problem with "the grind" is that its seem to be a common thing "make money fast" "rank up fast" "best weapons fast" ... well that mindsets are somewhat the main theme in the socials surrounding the game, in reality, this isn't the case, if you just play and enjoy the game, most materials come to you during whatever gameplay you choose, but if short attentionspan and instant gratification is a issue, elite does become VERY Grindy. the engineers tree is designed to "make you" experience other aspects of the game aspects one would never had even looked into.
as example to get G4+G5 on Thrusters you will need to switch to another engineer, and this requires you to do things you would not have done if not forced to do them, this is not to make you mad, this is to make you experience another part of the game, so you can just do this .. and get your G5 mod, but while you are doing it, you will maybe find another thing you may or may not enjoy doing, the rest of the stuff comes to you anyway. like the 5k LY Requirement for unlocking .. everyone is like "woooow this is going to take forever!!" but in reality it encourages you to build aa ship for this purpose, which turns out to be pretty easy to do, then interact with the galaxy map in a new way (as you have to make a trip for a purpose) then execute it, the execution itself is not grindy, sure it shoulds "holy shit" when you read it, but when you actually doing it, its like the greatest thing ever saying .. "wow I just made a 5k LY trip in a 300k ship" and it felt like it was over in 10 minutes. that is what makes the game great, having the wrong exceptions to be at the end game within the return-policy-time is what makes the game a Job rather than a experience.
I have over 3k hrs into ED back when VR first came out. Just built a new PC and I keep thinking about ED. Should I come back? Whats it like now days? Are all these features still VR friendly?
Is there any joystick works and compatible of this PS5 game ?
Playing on PC since 2016 here, nearing 14000 hours played. What keeps me going is the BGS (Background Simulation). Building an Empire with your PMF (Player Minor Faction), competing against other Squadrons interfering with your Plans to get their own done, all the while having a wonderful group of people behind you.
So you play over 6 hours per day?
@@Molotov49Playtime waxes and wanes depending on Workload, Vacation time etc. Weekends naturally more then during the week.
uhm someone help am about to run out of fuel and i dont have a fuel scope thingy, how to find a nearest station, with this new update am lost
Me laughing about the complaints about being on foot when I play star citizen and constantly get stuck in elevators, can’t leave space stations and can’t equip gear lol I gotta get back into elite
Fdevs said programming is hard, so they quit. Fuck ED.....
I've tried a few times to get into the game-play. I think this video helped me a little. I usually hate games with no path or goal. Even X-4 Foundations has paths and goals even though they may not be spelled out clearly.
I'll need to try again and just explore. Worry less on what to do and just learn to do things well. Good video. Thanks .
I'm with you. I played for probably 50+ hours. There are aspects that are fun but it just felt like too much repetition without purpose. I am a big flight sim fan so I get the pleasure of VR in a cockpit. I still remember the Holy Crap! moment the first time I strapped on a VR headset and got into the cockpit of an FW190. I imagine doing that in a space ship is just as good (I got the VR headset after I left ED behind so I have never used VR in ED). Still, just not for me. I guess I need an actual game in my game 😀
Yeah that's why SC is such a better game. If you're gonna base your whole game on nothing but flying and exploring you can't have a bunch of planet that all look the same and add the ability to actually leave your spaceship so late into the game, so badly done and for PC only
Love your style of review, very entertaining while effectively releasing the knowledge, thanks!
Wonderful feedback mate, really appreciate that. Thank you!
The console version can you go from a planet to planet? Is there free roam?
The title should say: The Game you LOVE to LOVE
I haven't played ED for over 2 years, ever since I bought a new computer. I had put a couple of hundred hours in on it and had a healthy bank balance.
I am upgrading again I am wondering if it still worth reinstalling the game.
I didn't mind the grind to be honest, it was relaxing espeically doing the long haulage routes, or mining. I always knew that if I wanted a bit of action
I could always do a bit of bounty hunting, but I would like some input from those who have continued with the game.
Has the recent updates improved game play or have been detrimental?
Just restarted playing this game after deleting it. In trying to get better at this game! Got one question, can I change that compass to 3D? The 2D one makes me confused and get lost
Looking at getting it. Can you run a 'hotas' joystick system up to it?
Hello John lad… if you mean a throttle and a stick then yes! That’s exactly what I play with.
I actually use the relatively “cheap” T1600M from Thrustmaster where most of the controls are already allocated.
I just bought the cheapest one, a Thrustmaster T-flight hotas One. Haha. Figured its enough to get my feet wet with a stick and throttle.
So I'm thinking of playing this game for the first time I want pvp and base battles do alot people do this today?
I’ve certainly been ganked a lot yes! Battles do take place for sure, but it takes a long time to get a ship battle ready these days. But it’s fun, and honestly for the case game which includes horizons, it’s a no brainer at what they sell it for.
Thanks for the honest review. And also including the VR aspect here!
You are most welcome lad. And VR is still the most exceptional of exceptional experiences!
I was an original backer back in the day but you hit the nail on the head when you said it's just grindy grindy grindy. I lost interest 6 years ago and want to get back into it but it's just exactly the same. I went straight to SOL when I bought the game and haven't ventured more than half a dozen jumps since. Every time I load it I get the same gameplay.
How is visiting Sol the first thing you did? Everyone else needs a Sol permit acquired by reaching Petty Officer rank in the Federation Navy to enter the system. Your first thing couldn't have been visiting Sol. Make it make sense.
@@ericpitts4979 Couldn't it be bought? I remember something about getting a pack which included a licence.
@@horrgakx I went looking for it and Alpha and Beta backers were granted a Sol permit. So I guess your story makes sense now. It's a shame you never left the bubble because there's a big Milky Way galaxy to get lost in and explore. Some of my favorite moments in game I was hundreds of light-years from the nearest station in the middle of nowhere seeing stars no one had ever bothered to visit. Or just chilling in a low sec gas giant ring and scanning for pirates to bounty hunt. It's only a grind if you're not enjoying what you're doing.
Wow - my first "Reggie" video but certainly now the first of many!!! OMG thank you so much. You seem to capture (in your own super inimitable accent and way) EXACTLY my thoughts. I am an original Elite player for the 80s and played Elite 2 etc and almost soiled myself in anticipation of the 2014 kickstarter game. And when it came.. disaster... with no HOTAS I tried many times to complete the dull and exacting tutorial tasks and when FINALLY I managed to get into the game I simply could not bridge the chasm between my ignorance of the key bindings and techniques and the games demands...
I stopped playing and did not return for FIVE YEARS!!!!
After hearing about Horizons, I decided to buy a cheap HOTAS and with the many UA-cam tutorials (Massive thanks to Obsidian Ant and to CMDR Exigeos (and by God I miss his vids now on ED) I managed to scramble up the steep learning curve.
3 years later I am ELITE as an explorer - having grinded my ass off for hours beyond count doing the road to riches and deep space exploration projects - but can barely hold my own in any combat situation, am totally baffled by all this Thargoid nonsense - and only recently recognising the need for mods and sites such as INARA. WTF - Odyssey !!! I still find it next to impossible to complete the tutorial - it tells you FA and has no context help and has nothing to offer my explorer heart other than crappy exo biology which is sooo badly thought out my ONLY reason for pursuing it is to relieve the monotony of deep space grind and the beauty of the planets...
So - like you Reggie - I totally love this game and have done ever since I played on a BBC home computer. But oh... with a bit more focus by FDev ... this game could be superlatively outstanding...
Meanwhile, I thank you Reggie, my next challenge is to have a go at mining ... and get VR - any suggestions as to the best VR for a newbie?
Lovely write up my good man! Thank you in particular for the recommendations on the two UA-camrs… they are EXCELLENT and also my go to for when I need help. I also quite enjoy the opinions of Yamiks.
As for VR, I’d go simple with the Quest 2 and a cable connection if at all possible. However, it can take time getting use to and set up, but if you have the rig for it, it’s just a magical experience. Scooping near a sun is genuinely a scary moment.
Thank you for the support lad, I do warn you though that not all my videos will be space or elite themed, but this is definitely an area of huge interest for me!
@@cockneygamer Many thanks Reggie for the VR advice and YES a very honourable mention to Yamiks - I love his Eastern European twang and wicked humour - they are a great combo! And yes - I realise your channel is much more than ED!! So having subscribed I will certainly watch with interest - keep up the good work!
Couldn't agree more. New to the Reggie as well but he's got my vote!
Ah thank you mate, means a lot to me to hear you all speak like this as it pushes me forward. I’m actually going to do a video on VR in elite dangerous in the coming weeks once I can clear out some of the backlog of games about to hit us (cities skylines, Forza, cyberpunk dlc etc). But fear not, more Elite content will be coming this year.
Really good stuff my guy! i subbed and i can imagine others will too in the future!
Thank you gym dude, appreciate your support!
I tried to play this with a controller and thought it was extremely difficult. I recently got a flight stick for another game and was told to try ED with it. I'm excited to see how this goes
how’d it go?
I would say things are getting very interesting, death star goids bearing down on the bubble. Mega ships blowing up, massive death beams being corrupted and black paint.
i question what are these mods called?
I believe I put them in the description in the video as a few folks asked!
can you own a ship about the size of the millenium falcon? If so can you walk around the interiors/customize , customize over all look of a ship? Looking for something like a cargo ship type game that I can chill with friends delivering goods from place to place. Basic Han Solo / guardians of the galaxie fantasy. Is that possible with this game?
Not being able to to hold my own in dog fights l tended to be a solo player which made the game a lonely affair especially as l was an explorer and would head of into the dark unknown to scan systems & planets for weeks on end before returning to the bubble to collect my money. What l would really like is a storyline woven into the game, the original had it in a way as once you reached a milestone you got a Boss unit to fight & l feel this would appeal to many players. My idea would be as follows; you go exploring, once you had a number of new planets scanned you got a mission to explore a planet that would open another mission once you had scanned a number of planets & eventually find a fully engineered upgrade
It's weird that I never found Elite grindy at all. Have people never played classic MMOs? I mean, I know Elite isn't a "real" typical MMO, but in most if not all MMOs, end game gear takes weeks per piece if even that. In Elite I can fully engineer a ship in a single play session of gathering mats (say 2-4 hours). The method of gathering those mats is repetitive and terrible though, but you can also opt to gather them the "correct" way, albeit it'll take a lot longer.
Anything can be a grind, if people only care to rush through a game as fast as possible before moving on to do the same with the next game (and start complaining again).
If you think about it, it's a sandbox game so just play around figure out what you like about the game and then do that. The journey is the destination and that's kind of the point. If you make it a grind it will be a grind but I'd you take your time and do what you want and don't treat it like "I have to unlock everything" then it's just pure fun. And the thing is, when you unlock everything does it change the game? 🤔 Have you beaten the game then? No. life goes on and things are just easier, but easier isn't always more fun. So remember you're not unlocking more fun at the end of the tunnel. Just more options.
do you guys suggest a space enthusiast to start playing this game? I have played most X series and many different space sims. I would love to start but I am afraid I will grind so much and the game will die after 3-4 years, if that makes sense. What do you suggest?
Wait for a sale and buy it at low cost.
The grind is in the mind - there are people who have to max everything out or they're not happy, and those people will grind until their fingers bleed.
I can't emphasise this enough: if there was a way to put your head in a blender to get grade 5 upgrades for all the ships in the first hour, there would be players who DID this and then complained they had to put their head in a blender.
So, play the game and don't grind.
Many level 1 upgrades cost 1 basic material, which you can practically scrape off your shoes. Enjoy the level 1 upgrade for a while, do missions, and eventually upgrade to level 2. Play for weeks or months, collect materials intelligently, upgrade when you find you have enough.
@@Sighman So true - it's a sandbox game, there IS a sort of narrative story to follow but that doesn't have a massive effect on what you personally feel like doing.
I suppose it's frustrating for those that feel the need to 'achieve' something (bearing in mind all games are just pixels) or 'beat the game' but there's no need, just get out in there in the big black and take in the view.
Exploration is my thing, although I've got an alt account now to do some of The Bubble stuff.
you like x series.. there's good chance you're gonna like this one too.. i mainly play X4 after i stop playing ED nowadays. in term of presentation ED knock out of the park , from the sound, controls and flight mechanics, its hands down one of the best in the class but one thing X4 excel about ED tho IMO is the simulation side. from the world economics, factions interaction and how much player can impact the game. if in x4 you can build a faction and dominate the space, in ED the game will live just like any other day with or without you even if you have a faction.
as how long the game will last, no one knows, the future is not ours to see. tho many player including me has left the game, with the newest DLC as the last nail in the coffin. the grind is there and is real and like it or not will stay i am afraid. one thing im confident to say tho that you likely will get atleast 200-800 hrs before the immersion wears off. there's so much to learn and do with little information on how to get it done. your best bet is join a discord server and ask someone to help you familiarize the in game intricacies little bit, and dont you worry if do want to jump in, this game has some of the friendliest community ever, you will find someone that is willing to help you if u decide to do that.
Frontier should rebrand this game to: Space Trucker Simulator.
I have played it for 2 years on pc and now im thinking of buying it on ps4 is that the right choise
Excellent video, answered every question I had!
Thank you good sir, appreciate it.
The developers are the worst idiots in history. Anyone else being in charge of it would make this game one of the best mass multiplier experiences in no time.
It does feel like the people who didn’t recognise it’s HUGE potential were indeed the publishers and money men at the top
@@cockneygamer The people who design the game itself are utterly useless too. It takes nothing for them to change a couple of numbers and decrease the grind or to spawn a bit more ships and make assassinations (just one example) more difficult. Simple number changes can rebalance the game and make it less painful and overall better but they can't/won't do it. Nah, we are not talking just greed here, this is about stupidity and inadequacy on every level.
@@heavybattle6650
"Stupidity and inadequacy on every level."
FDev still wants $50+Cdn for Odyssey.
The absolute lunatics.
@@snarkymoosesshack8793 There is no way this game costs 50 dollars right now.
Just swapped from PS4 to PC. Had a flight stick already since I play Warthunder, and I'm falling in love all over again. I just wish I had some friends who could help me out, lol.
Add XG99 in-game (Odyssey only). That's my alt based around Mainani for - mostly - bounty-hunting.
@@Sighman Unfortunately I don't have Odyssey yet, it's on my bucket list though.
lol, "slow down lad".
just started playing, love this game.
I go there every day sometimes mine sometimes trade sometimes fight and sometimes pick a star far away and explore. I ❤️ it
CG you are so right on so many aspects, and sometimes no matter how much grunt you throw at something, optimization and tweaking does come into its own. I now have a Rig...in fact two, that are STUTTER FREE, as smooth as butter, even for crap like Star Citizen, haven't yet installed Elite so cant say. Kudos fella
Thank you good sir and Happy Easter!
Great video, i bought a C64 to play the original many years ago, i may have to give this a try
So where are the.
where is mods a link or something
As a console player, the game is still one I love to play despite everything that's going to happen with console elite, while I'm working my way to become a thargoid hunter now I usually spend my time helping out new commanders, the game has so much potential, but frontier keep making the worst decisions at times. Will we ever get new ships? probably not
I came from Xbox and I was surprised how easy it was to transfer my account and game saves to PC.
PowerPlay was an objective failure.
Engineering wasn't fully thought out.
Lots of weapons and modules need tweaking/rebalancing/redoing entirely.
Lots of lore locations need editing/fixing, or remodeling.
New gameplay features need to be sprinkled in all over the place (both base game and Odyssey) (EVAs, Base Building, Ship Interiors, etc as examples).
Carrier CMDRS need more modules to choose from to add or not to their carriers (Pioneer Supplies badly needs a purpose onboard carriers to give CMDRs a reason to choose them over stations).
My two cents.
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By drinking a bo'oh'o'wo'er
Good video mate
After diving Into the engineering grind the game did get boring. It kiiled It for me and I've been unable to really get back Into It
However, VR! Every now and again I get the urge to just simply go out and mine just for the sake of It. I don't need the money. It's just such unique experience In VR. So relaxing and sometimes I'm still In awe of It all. But I have no Interest In progressing further anymore :(
@5:00 managing everything and hotkeys sure but I recommend voice attack and spend a few bucks getting anice voice pack you like. I just bark verbal orders and commands to my ship and they execute as fast as I can speak. I have short 1 word commands for complex actions too (you can set this up so longer phrases can be pumped out in simple short words for pvp mainly bc time is money or life in this case lol) But realistically hitting hotkeys will still be faster so I find the best thing is to do them both, you can stack commands quickly. As I'm slamming the stick with one hand and other hand on the throttle I can bark orders to reallocate pips to engines etc. without ever taking my hand of the stick ;) I like it and it feels really damn fluid. Not to mention the immersion is just amazing, and I don't mind a french girl getting a little sassy with me if I give her too many commands at a time. ;)
I'm liking this guys channel. Original reviews with an interesting style.
You are too kind my pedigree chum, appreciate your comments and love here.
Wish I had a graphic level like these videos represent eventho I'm on max settings - and some engaging gameplay content
I'm like currently over a 100+ jumps away from the main part of the milky way. I was on my way to the center. But now I'm just mapping. Eventually I plan to return.
So what are the names of the mods?
Ed Engineer is one of them. Check out this great Tutorial which tells you how to set it up (this is who I followed). ua-cam.com/video/pkr8wWW94dw/v-deo.html
And here is ED Market Connector: ua-cam.com/video/R6ADRhRvx24/v-deo.html
Both will help you hugely!
What game is better Elite Dangerous or X4?
I loved this game but haven't played it in years. Still it's one of the best PC games I've played, I even bought it on PS4 and played it there in hope for future psvr support. Alas it did not come to be.
I can't even remember what I was doing when I quit on PC. On PS4 I'm getting closer to Sagittarius A*
I think this game has absolutely fantastic joypad support. Using combinations of face buttons + keypad or shoulder buttons/triggers you can intuitively map pretty much everything to that little pad, especially considering how that really useful little pop-up reminder to jog your memory of what is mapped where. I still tend to press 'm' to change my cockpit mode, though.
Unfortunately I find the combat in this game to be massively frustrating and unpredictable. I think it's due to the engineering but if I'm just in an all round multi-role ship then it seems to be a bit of a lottery if a supposedly mid difficulty enemy will be able to completely destroy me within seconds regardless of if I've bought the best shields I can or not. This is frustrating because the combat is supposedly a core part of the experience and do remember enjoying it back in the original game. Yes, I'm old lol
You sound like the late, great Howard Lew Lewis🏆. Fuckin' loved that bloke👍. Especially the way he talked🗣. Cheers🍺 for the cockney upload😁.
Thank you Rob lad, appreciate the comment and kind words here.
You've given me a lot to consider. Thank you for the info.
You are most welcome Kyle
For a new player it can be fun the issues really become apparent with late game grinds and activities
I wish I had that new player feel again.
I bought the game back in 2015 and have played it for insane hours (5,000+). In many ways it's a gorgeous and compelling world. However: The frustration of not being able to fully experience the game without endless grinding for engineering (e.g. not possible to fight aliens or properly support teammates) was bad enough, and then Odyssey nearly made me give up. The on-foot combat is *so* dumb. How do you have a space sim with a complex and stunning approach to zero-G ship fights, and then have shooter combat that's just a bunch of hopping around interchangeable bases? A truly uninspired and boring addition, that used resources which could have improved other aspects of the game. BUT, bitching aside, I do still play. There's still a thrill from realizing that every star in the sky represents an actual system that I can jump to, and I still love the moments of nailing some acrobatic dogfight move.
My feeling is that it should be possible to just buy improved items, via normal earnings, instead of a specialized grind. Or alternately, use some of your space dollars to hire NPCs to create passive income or accomplish fetch-y stuff.
People who can't afford (or fit) a full flight control setup might be interested to know that I've had pretty good results combining keyboard controls with a rollerball style mouse (I'm currently using a Logitech MX Ergo).
Wow! I just learnt this game existed 😂 I played Elite 2 on the Amiga back in the day then Elite 3 on the Pc. Panther clipper with two large plasma accelerators and about 1000 shield generators 😂 indestructible. Question is what the best system to play it on ? I’m a bit retro (skint) so have a Ps3, a ps4, a budget gaming PC based of a dell optiplex (3.7ghz I think 16gb of ram with a SSD and GTX 1060) oh and a Nintendo wiiu. Oh my kids got a switch to. Someone told me to give no man’s sky a go ?
PC if you can handle it!
Apart from all the control options and what not, it will look better as you upgrade. Also console is not supported anymore, not to mention elite on PC is dirt cheap… can be found for like $5.
As for performance on your rig I’m not sure… but this video is using a 1060 and it looks decent!
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the ground game grind does suck, the regular engineering is ok.
now that the thargoid invasion has started, there is even more end game to fight or provide rescue or support supplies.
I’ve had this game for several years on my Xbox one. I am in the process of transferring that data to PC. I hope I get to keep all of my ships and progress. I had to decommission my carrier. I have 41 ships that are engineered.
Indeed you can sir. There was a window of opportunity to do so… not sure if it’s still active though
6:24 - ED in a nutshell.
Thanks a lot for this video. It saved me from getting into yet another game that has out-of-touch devs yet almost has a good game.
well now that they aren't developing a new dcl, hopefully they turn more of their focus on what's already their and needs improving (though new thing with the thargoids is pretty interesting i will admit)
Yes I will say and something that wasn't mentioned here in my review is that the new Thargoids interaction could open up a new chapter if they play it well. We shall see! Thank you for noting it Mr Exists!
fixing somethings that has ben sold already doesn't create immediate profits, so no, they wont.
this days, Frontier isn't really in the game development business, they just moving boxes that do contain games made by people that happen to be in the vicinity of them.
@@nullx8 it is a "live service game" money could still be made off it through arx and cosmetics, if they keep improving the game, that'd bring more people in and keep more people, and the more people that join, the more likely that some of those people are willing to spend money on arx. just look at that diablo game, people spending thousands on pixels,
When you buy stock it tells you where you can sell items now and for how much... when did you last play it about 10 years ago?
I’m not sure it’s scanning the Galaxy real time to give you the best price though? It’s just telling you what’s near.
Stumbled across this and I was blown away..Thankx YT!, what took you so long? Never seen your content but liked & subbed before it was over..VERY well done & will look for more...Hope to see you somewhere in the black, o7 from Cpt.Crazyglue...
Wonderful little comment lad, appreciate it a lot. Glad it hit the mark for you. Sadly not a dedicated space channel but definitely have interest in it so hopefully other games will catch you! :-)
exactly my point of view, from the moment i was struck with Elite virus, i'm always saying this to friends, this game you will love and hate at the same time
FDEV needs to listen to their playerbase, fuck the other games they have, ED should be their main focus
also with the VR thing, i only came back to elite just for VR experience and i'm bamboozled with the fact how odyssey didn't implement it properly
i've also few ideas about elite but who cares, like :
-specialized npcs on your ship, better than only one fighter crew npc ( exo biologist, astro miner, trade specialist ) just to name some, with perks like for instance exo biologist could operate a remote drone to help you with finding plants on planets, astro miner could have expertise about asteroid fields, also could operate a fighter-like drone to prospect guaranteed better asteroids, trade specialist could refresh trade routes with high profit on your galaxy map to name good value markets... and that's the one thing that could make your big ship feel more alive
I remember playing Elite on my Atari STE in the late 80's whilst at college instead of doing assignments! I still passed my HND though by the way. It was David Brabben that initiated this game and he went on to do Elite 2' I think it was? I was not impressed that much with that. Withe the Original Elite for the Atari STFM and STE you had to engage your 'imagination' rather than relying on graphics to make the game more real. This game though (Elite Dangerous) looks blooming awesome! The next great game I involved myself with was the original 'HomeWorld', again another magnificent game! I have researched 'Elite' again to see if it has anything to offer with an 'Occulous' headset. I'm looking for an entire package, Computer, software and analogue gadgets to make it more real than ever. I am 30 years out of the 'gaming' community and I still think the Commodore Amiga' is the bees knees! :) The 'Elite Horizons the author mentions looks good as now I am 62 and I am looking for more exploration rather than just 'Shoot 'em up's'. Any recommendations anybody?
I´m 51 and have played Elite Dangerous and later Horizons since 2014 (played all the earlier versions of Elite too). I´m using the "old" Oculus Rift VR headset and X-56 Hotas and it´s still the most immersive, relaxing, exciting, boring, beautiful, meditative, grinding, awe inspiring, jaw dropping.....(I could go on because it is so full of everything and nothing as the video suggests). I have had a two year break from the game, but just installed it again to find out how the graphics improved. Started from scratch (Horizons, not Odyssey) and ditched 2400 hours of gameplay to get that "start up thrill" again. (I´ve got another account with more hours that I wont ditch).
I play on a I7 9700K CPU with 32GB RAM (16 is enough), RTX 3070 video card and it runs very smooth at pretty high settings (I haven´t landed on an atmospheric planet yet so maybe I need to tweak it a bit).
There is quite a learning curve because the game don´t hold your hand. At least there is a starting tutorial now that take you through the initial steering and navigation procedures, but like taking a drivers license, you won´t learn it fully until you put the hours into it afterwards. But like one guy wrote in a review: "I took off from the landing pad and smashed my spaceship direcly into the walls of the space station and exploded. Used two hours repeating this. Would do it again! 10/10"
The steering mechanics are great I think. You can feel the mass of your ship and in VR you have the most wonderful and immersive feeling of sitting right there...in YOUR chair...in YOUR own spaceship...and you can do what YOU want to. I love it and I grow tired of it sometimes, but I have NEVER regretted it and the game was the #1 reason I bought the Rift when they came out.
Oh....and for exploration and pure relaxation it´s great! I have used months to travel to the core of the galaxy and back and just chill. Priceless. You´ll need to do something to get a little cash for a better exploration vehicle though, but that is a good way to learn the game mechanics at first.
I love it, specially space trucking and on foot missions (after learnin the basis and many, MANY visits to Pillar of Fortitude, i started to enjoy it). But i must say is the most "lonely" online game i ever played. In two years playing this i have only seen 3 players (and a message from someone who i dont sure it was a player) Two of them in Jefferson Memorial wich i thought it was the one of the most popular stations to find other people.
Love the editing , voice , conclusion part
Thank you lad, appreciate. Another video is dropping in 15 mins!
are you talking to future players or the DEVs mate ? ^^
Played regularly for years, all in VR. Don't bother with Odyssey, it was coded after anyone at FDEV that knew what they were doing with their engine had long since left.
The best thing that could happen to it now is for another company to buy it and convert it to UE5, sadly FDEV stopped really caring about it long ago.
I fell in love with the original Elite in 1984, so in my view (and I may be wrong) Elite Dangerous should have been a realistic space flight trading/combat/exlporation sim first. By this, I mean Frontier should have concentrated on the base gameplay of what made the original Elite so good.
Basically they should have aimed for a game that had all the features of Frontier Elite 2, trading, exploration, combat, atmospheric planets, Thargoids, missions (maybe even some single player story missions and rpg elements and multiplayer trading, exploration and combat missions) and competent space pirates... Then they should have added space weather, more types of aliens, planetary weather (snow, rain, sand storms, etc) and everything that you'd want to see in a realistic space flight sim... and then when that was all done, they should have added the PvP stuff like fighters, multicrew and the space-legs FPS stuff.
I think Fdev tried to do too many things, which resulted in a hodge-podge of a game where nothing really works all that well... They should have concentrated on getting the core right, and then added more flashy stuff later.
Reggie my friend you sir have a new subscribers love your contact your delivery was awesome
Thank you my dearest Ryan lad. Channel is still relatively newish (5 months) and Reggie and the boys have much to learn. Channel is a mix of simulator/retro/new releases with a load of nonsense thrown in. Thank you for your support and welcome to the Cockney Gang.
I've personally been playing ED since the release on PS4, which included the Horizon DLC. I moved to playing on an xbox one and again to a really well built our gaming pc, which I've been on ever since. I've accumulated between the three platforms over 9,000 hours to date. It would have been more but I took a hiatus for most of a year, after the release of the newest DLC, which had some major issues. A couple of weeks ago. The issues have been fixed, and I've taken my ships out of dry dock. And dusted off my flight suit. And the hour's are adding up again.
If the Chimney Sweep from Mary Poppins reviewed games. :D
Winds in the East, Mist coming in!
Identical looking stations, similar planets, no new ships, under developed multicrew features, no ship interiors, procedural same lookalike environments...
Whats the ps4 version like before i buy?
If you can get it for like £10 or under it's still worth it. But on console it's essentially no longer recieving updates or DLC. There's a LOT of controversy and anger among the console community (I'm on PC myself but appreciate how shit the devs have been) because Frontier promised to release Odyssey (the latest DLC adding 'space legs') would come to console. Only well after it released on PC did they suddenly announce not only will they not be bringing the DLC to console, but they're effectively no longer developing it on console at all.
That being said, there's still potentially hundreds of hours of gameplay there for a new player to enjoy. It's just for more seasoned players it's so painful it's been effectively discontinued.
@@cirrus393 that's sad to hear I played 6hrs last night learning from mistakes but wondered how to find a planet I could land on etc but I'm guessing with what your saying that's not available on console. Oh well
@@daleheat8455 You can land on planets. When you’re in the system map, look for planets / moons with a blue curve around the top left. If this blue curve has a little city symbol on it, there’s also a planetary base you can walk on. You can even drive a ground vehicle on these planets if you buy one and fit an SRV bay to a suitable ship
The main thing you do miss out on on console is the ability to walk around in first person around the planets / stations etc. But you’re not missing much to be honest. I rarely get out of my ship on PC 👍🏼
PS before you attempt a landing look up a landing tutorial on YT as it can be a bit confusing
Nice honest appraisal. Maybe worth a punt for 6 squid. Thanks.
Totally worth a punt lad. Price of a pint in London and you’ll get plenty out of it.
"NO POINT NO, FIVE PERCENT" incredible accent, Glad I can understand perfectly
I love you lad
It's alright son, not everyone can be a Cockney. You're sweet as a nut just as you are me old china.
Marcus lad, I’d take you out for a Ruby if I could. You deserve it sunshine.
@@cockneygamer Cheers. I could go a nice Korma. I'll just imagine a virtual one here.
I am an original release player from the 80's. Loved the game then, love the game now! Just made it to Colonia in my explorer. Long trip!
Brilliant review!!! 😍
Thank you Mike lad, appreciate that a lot! Happy Sunday!
i buyed it and it sucks because everthing is confusing. i played since 25 years playstation and cant figure out how to open messanges.
Star Citizen has nailed the immersion side of things, primarily with its ability to walk onto and around interactive ship interiors. No stupid 'no mans sky' like teleportation. Frontier stated that it wasnt wanted by players and that it would detract from gameplay ... truth, it was because they couldnt be bothered to create the short animations and remodeling of the cockpits. It pisses me off coz Ive experienced the difference it makes for a truely immersive experience. Im gona come back to elite for a bit though, at least while SC implements and improves it new server meshing and persistent entity streaming tech. 👍
It is a good argument, that eventually you'd feel like you have to walk for too long to your ship. But the alternative is, that since most ships have two entrances, the front entrance would be the shortcut to cockpit, while back entrance would let you go through your entire ship.
The real reason they don't want to do interiors, is that it's a huge labour to create individual interiors to every ship that's already there, and set a standard that every future ship needs the same treatment. On top of that, balancing ships would no longer be a case of adding another compartment slot, or reducing it, you would need to do some changes to the interior to make it work too.
Teleporting still would probably be a necesity, even if hidden like with elevators. You see, any physics engine starts to go crazy once your character stands on a moving vehicle. Sometimes you will straight up die, sometimes you will get ragdolled and fall, sometimes your character will start vibrating and than pass through the vehicle or get launched into space. Most games fix it, by turning vehicle interiors into something like a separate instance. For example in Warframe, railjack interior is a separate map, that's just linked to a remote controlled vehicle. by approaching this vehicle, you are teleported to the static interior with windows that work like portals, so you get immersive view on the outside of the moving ship. It also allows them to easily change the size of the interior without touching the main ship!
Now RSI said they don't care about optimization, and decided to make all ships hollow with physically integrated interiors, so now 8 years later you can still easily break your legs for no reason or phase through ship walls if it's even mildly rotating...
@@WwZa7 All good points, its just a shame its such a difficult task to create this seamless aspect that really transforms gameplay. SC is FAR from stable, granted, so im leaving them to it for a while to improve overall and ive come back to ED Odyssey. TBH I havnt minded the TP'ing into the ship too much, just being picky and wanting something that isnt quite available or possible yet. We'll get the 'perfect' game one day!
@@WwZa7 Which is exactly why Star Citizen even in the state of Alpha is a far better Space Sim. Ive played both since the early days and up until this year SC could not hold a candle to ED. Now it has reversed itself. Now SC is a better game that really puts a person in that universe. I havent logged into ED in months but am now playing SC every single day.
@@CVSiN Better in what way?
@@WwZa7 For me better in nearly every way, While ED has this literally infinite system its lifeless and hollow, the ships are not even in the same league as SC at all, Where ED was always built around being in a ship at all times and now they are trying to change that SC was always built even in the early days of you being a person and the ships a tool. walking out to a ship and then boarding it never ever gets old. the newer ships are even better now having all the systems accessible and panels you can open or use storage etc. To me that puts me in the world. The gun play and the weapons are all in a totally different leage as well. the polish even on a base model sub machine gun is literally decades ahead of the new very basic and ugly weapons of the latest ED expansion even shown in this video.. they look terrible and are uninspired ( which is how I feel about most of the older ships in ED as well) they are ugly and plain and dont inspire me to really love it.. Where every single time I fly my RSI Scorpius, or any other other of the warships in SC I literally am drooling how good they look and give a sense of pride of ownership. Where in ED I hardly EVER wanted to use 3rd person to stare at my ship.. The art style just works for me.. same with ground vehicles. look at the vehicles there and then look what we have in ED.. very uninspired Id have fired the art/design team a long time ago myself.. This part may be a negative to most of you. But I also like the fact I can spend real dollars and get what I want right now.. instead of having to grind. I personally like being able to pay to get the equipment I want with real money. and finally events like Jump Town. where the entire server is focused on 1 little facility bringing massive ground and air warfare and epic huge battles. tanks, Anti-air, Cargo haulers bringing in those vehicles with fighters and Corvettes flying cover for them.. its just freaking unreal. huge fighter wars in atmosphere while there is a ground siege going on below is really amazing and shows what the future holds where there are 1000s of people in 1 area. Nothing I've done over the years in ED is even close.
Love your accent! Thanks for reviewing this even though I didn't see it until a year later.
You are most welcome Smoocher. Appreciate you dropping in!
Mate, you talked me into giving ED another go around DL'ing it now.
Good lad! I do the same thing… I go quiet for 6 months and have to relearn the controls for a few days. Then smash it up for a few weeks then give it another break. It’s still a fantastic space sim.