@@duckswearinggloves305 True, but I still remember when you couldn't find any KC on UA-cam or other streaming services. I think it is just an issue of them not understanding this generation of music, but eventually they will come around
Fripp being so against streaming for all those years up until like last year more than likely hurt them in terms of how many new fans they get per year. All the other prog bands like Yes and ELP have been on streaming for a while now but KC hadn't been up until like last year.
For the record, they're not suing because he didn't give King Crimson credit. He did. They have a credit on the song. They just think Kanye's music production group isn't paying them the money they deserve for all the streams the song gets. Kind of a boring nothing burger at the end of the day.
It’s because the sampled some was made in the 50’s and they wanted to release in the 21st year in the 21st day on the 21st century, so now they proceeded with the lawsuit
What are you on about? The original and longest running member of the band (54 years) owns their record label, DGM, which has an excellent reputation. They've got very strong morals about the music industry that I think anyone interested in music should read into.
@@watchbozotv9153 most JoJo characters and stands are named after bands or singers or songs. King crimson themself have released a post explaining the stand “King Crimson”, as it is a complicated stand
@@andjelarakic1608 The video isn't wrong. Even at the bottom of the screen it says exactly that. Y'all just thought these guys were suing Kanye for "plagiarism"
@John Baptist also important to point out that the corporation that owns King Crimsons music is suing not the band members directly. very often legal action like this is kind of out of the artists hands
This can’t be true. The members of King Crimson had confirmed before that they loved this song and according to Genius they used to play the intro to POWER for their live shows and then transition into 21st Century Schizoid Man after the first use of the sample.
Stand Name: Erika Stand Master: Ye Erika's ability is to instantly duplicate existing content and cause it to kill the most nearby enemy. Though being quite similar to Kiss and Wonder of U, it can only merge back to one when both are in the same Y coordinate, and only one calamity can happen to the person at a time. It's humanoid form can punch fairly quick, and dodge even faster. Power: A Speed: A Range: ∞ Durability: ? Precision: A Potential: C It's appearance is a tall, buff green masculine figure with red/black/white sparkles forever appearing around it. It wears a pilot hat, and a black corset, shoulder pads and gloves of the same color. It has many tattoos, most being of specific numbers. It wears tall, black boots with red knee pads and white soles. Though never explicitly being shown, it can launch music notes from it's reference song repeatedly through its left hand, being very similar to Echoes.
Just In Case Anyone's Wondering, No, It's Not Fripp, Nor Is It KC That's Suing, It's The Record Company (Atlantic Records I Believe). Also, It's Not Because Kanye Unlawfully Used The Sample, It's Because The Record Label Believes They Have Not Paid The Desired Pay. Also Also, Kanye Himself Is Not Being Sued, It's His Record Label.
I agree & this sample sounds great in it but it's not very creative He did not alter or use it in a different way He just used it at great moment's I love this song btw & the song it sampled Kanye got me into king crimson partially
@@TeamFortressTwoGamingI love how many people rushing to KC's defense (which they don't need to do, because this isn't even a big deal) without realizing that DGM (their lable) was founded by KC's leader and guitarist Robert Fripp.
I work in the industry. They are suing now because over the years this track has produced tons of money in royalties, licenses, and overdue clearance sample payments. Technically the illegally sampled artist can take a portion of all of these things even years down the line. And sometimes when you sue up front you don’t get a portion of the future revenue. So why not let the bill rack up for years, and then pursuit the lawsuit when the money has been made? Yah feel me? Smart move by them
Fripp was actually totally cool with it, it’s the companies that have the issue. It all comes down to money. King Crimson doesn’t care about the sample, however
The amount of people who immediately comment without watching the video... They aren't suing because Kanye sampled a part of their song. That doesn't even make sense! They're suing because Kanye isn't paying them the right amount of royalties.
To explain the situation to those who are confused; King Crimson has a bunch of members who are dead so it probably is not them but the people who own the song now. Kayne did credit them and they have always had credit in the song and got royalties but the person who owns the song believes there is a discrepancy with the payments made with the amount of streams the song has. I think it is boring and stupid so.
They're not suing. The song was made in 1965, I don't think the some 80 year old musicians who made some of the best music in the word care if some random rapper used a sample.
The one I think Kanye SHOULD get comeuppance for is his Aphex Twin sample on “Blame Game”. If I recall correctly Kanye didn’t pay Aphex sh/t and basically screwed him over
I initially couldn't believe he never got the sample cleared But then again (this album holds a special place in my heart btw) he stole ravaged & ruined aphex twin-Avril 14th without asking Edit: I think I'm wrong he got it cleared I guess I don't know how complicated the legislation on sampling is or just lawsuits generally
Doesn't particularly surprise me. Robert Fripp, the man credited with creating King Crimson is a huge stickler with copyright. It's the reason a lot of KC stuff wasn't on UA-cam until the last year or two.
You just picked different songs that sampled the original when he also sampled the original so you can just act like it’s a line of people copying each other 💀 also he isn’t getting sued at all for these
I don't like Kanye West very much beyond a few songs, disregarding him being an idiot as a person, and I think King Crimson in all incarnations created some of the greatest music of the 20th century, but I cannot figure out why Robert Fripp is such a dinosaur when it comes to sampling like this.
He was actually okay with the sample, and he even scrambled to approve of it at the last minute because it hadn't been properly cleared before release. The lawsuit is because UMG wasn't paying the band the royalties they were owed.
Kanye boutta head into the court of king crimson
it's actually "the court of the crimson king" smh
@@bigsmeggoesgaga oh dear
Made me laugh pretty hard. Thanks
fake fan
@@bigsmeggoesgaga💋😘
just now? power been out for like 13 years
Not everyone listens to him. I don't.
@@butterflyqueen9260 Then you’re missing out
@@mikeoxlong2066 lol not really
@@mikeoxlong2066 no I don't to those types of music
@@butterflyqueen9260 you're missing out
King crimson what an amazing band
Exactly.
Very true
Management is shit though. They manually take down videos that use parts of songs
@@duckswearinggloves305 True, but I still remember when you couldn't find any KC on UA-cam or other streaming services. I think it is just an issue of them not understanding this generation of music, but eventually they will come around
Fripp being so against streaming for all those years up until like last year more than likely hurt them in terms of how many new fans they get per year. All the other prog bands like Yes and ELP have been on streaming for a while now but KC hadn't been up until like last year.
For the record, they're not suing because he didn't give King Crimson credit. He did. They have a credit on the song. They just think Kanye's music production group isn't paying them the money they deserve for all the streams the song gets.
Kind of a boring nothing burger at the end of the day.
Nothing burger
Nothing burger
Bro the sample is only like 2 seconds long and only used 4 times
@@KidCudisSonsong is shite without it, that 21st century schizoid man tag literally makes the song it’s the beat drop
Song is better than anything you listen to🤷🏾♂️@@JamesKP17847
After all these years?
Read the bottom of the screen at the end
Always
All them years dutch
It’s because the sampled some was made in the 50’s and they wanted to release in the 21st year in the 21st day on the 21st century, so now they proceeded with the lawsuit
Always
21st century schizoid man kicks ass.
I recommend the whole album
Did you listen to mbdtf?
@@PopBS that shit came out when I was in high school
@@jerameyconners5122 Did you listen to it tho im curious
In the court is an amazing album I agree!!! But I like Kanye west too
I have the original vinyl in perfect condition
its not the artists suing him, theyre probably retired and couldnt even care. its whoever "owns" that song now.
Alot of them are unfortunately dead now. So yeah it's not them.
Robert Fripp owns it himself so.....
@@king.2597Robert Fripp is still alive
What are you on about? The original and longest running member of the band (54 years) owns their record label, DGM, which has an excellent reputation. They've got very strong morals about the music industry that I think anyone interested in music should read into.
@@king.2597Actually, only one of the original members died. Plus, the band's owner and guitarist, Robert Fripp, is the one suing. He IS KC.
I mean *nobody* knows how King Crimson works
I have a feeling they're gonna flag this video for using KC music
@@jerameyconners5122 or just the ten seconds that use it
How does king crimson work
King Crimson possesses the ability to erase time and predict the future
@@x-xxx-xxx-xxx epitah
Kanye West: 🤓
King Crimson: 🗿
Giosuè Lo Bello: 🤓
Both badass
@@Docnew Docnew:🙈🤪
@@klaus8456 Klaus /: ㊙️㊙️㊙️㊙️㊙️
@@Docnew Thank you
At least it's not King Crimson doing the lawsuit, it's the studio that holds the copyright to it.
King crimson skipped time at the end
Edit:stop arguing down there
What u talking about. The drum fill is j syncopated. That song is amazing
@@watchbozotv9153 it's a Jojo reference. King crimson power is to skip forward up to 10 seconds in time
@@landonbolton9789 jojo character named after king crimson?
@@watchbozotv9153 king crimson is a stand in part 5
@@watchbozotv9153 most JoJo characters and stands are named after bands or singers or songs. King crimson themself have released a post explaining the stand “King Crimson”, as it is a complicated stand
I love king crimson (obviously) but they can go insane on copyright sometimes
i think it’s the studio and not them that’s doing the lawsuits
King crimson isn’t suing, it’s the record label
They're suing UMG for unpaid royalties, I'd say it's quite fair.
@@bigpapi6688 Fripp (Their guitarist and only consistent member) owns their label DGM
King Crimson>Kanye West
Nah
@@tydollafreak Yeah
The King > forgotten rock band
@@poochiboyhow is it a forgotten rock band they started an entire sub genre of rock? And created one of the most influential albums of all time
@@poochiboyslightly unknown band>Jew hater
my man said "ctrl+c, ctrl+v"
Yes thats how sampling works
Not really, he layered it under another sample and added drum beat
@@Jonas-c9t not all sampling, this one's just a really basic version of it
@@napoopy what is that supposed to mean
@@Jonas-c9t that there's other people who do more secretive sampling
Btw this is misleading, kanye isnt getting sued, his record label is
It was just announced that the lawsuit has been settled. On the day before the case was about to start the actual trial.
they must be desperate for money if they're suing one of the most popular songs thats been out for more than a decade
@John Baptist no. UA-camrs should do their research correctly.
@@andjelarakic1608 The video isn't wrong. Even at the bottom of the screen it says exactly that. Y'all just thought these guys were suing Kanye for "plagiarism"
@John Baptist also important to point out that the corporation that owns King Crimsons music is suing not the band members directly. very often legal action like this is kind of out of the artists hands
I can’t believe the comments I’m seeing about literally king crimson 😂😂 y’all uncultured
@@Coradetgfhgbsdt seriously!! preach
King Crimson.
Fun Fact: did you know that 21st century schizoid man was invented in 1969?
Oh no you gonna get Fripped as well RIP
Kanye thought Fripp was just gonna let that shit slide or sum😭😭
and he did for like 13 years 💀
Bro, i legit love The original song, holy shit.
He just got FRIPPED
That’s the first prog song ever. (1969.)
Two of my favorite genres in one song. Prog and rap.
Cat’s foot iron claw
Neurosurgeons scream for more
jojo reference
“KING CRIMSON!” *time erasure happens*
This can’t be true. The members of King Crimson had confirmed before that they loved this song and according to Genius they used to play the intro to POWER for their live shows and then transition into 21st Century Schizoid Man after the first use of the sample.
and yes as many other comments point out it’s been too long for them to just now get sued.
@@loveandpeace9956 it's not for plagiarising, it's because apparently Universal music group isn't paying enough from the streams the song gets
It’s about the companies, not king crimson themselves
Robert Fripp is a genius…and so is Michael Giles!
Just imagine a Kanye West stand
It’s pretty good. Thanks for asking😎👍
Stand Name: Erika
Stand Master: Ye
Erika's ability is to instantly duplicate existing content and cause it to kill the most nearby enemy. Though being quite similar to Kiss and Wonder of U, it can only merge back to one when both are in the same Y coordinate, and only one calamity can happen to the person at a time.
It's humanoid form can punch fairly quick, and dodge even faster.
Power: A
Speed: A
Range: ∞
Durability: ?
Precision: A
Potential: C
It's appearance is a tall, buff green masculine figure with red/black/white sparkles forever appearing around it. It wears a pilot hat, and a black corset, shoulder pads and gloves of the same color. It has many tattoos, most being of specific numbers. It wears tall, black boots with red knee pads and white soles. Though never explicitly being shown, it can launch music notes from it's reference song repeatedly through its left hand, being very similar to Echoes.
Just In Case Anyone's Wondering, No, It's Not Fripp, Nor Is It KC That's Suing, It's The Record Company (Atlantic Records I Believe). Also, It's Not Because Kanye Unlawfully Used The Sample, It's Because The Record Label Believes They Have Not Paid The Desired Pay. Also Also, Kanye Himself Is Not Being Sued, It's His Record Label.
Power is an absolute masterpiece, it contains several samples used in a very genius manner. A marvel of production.
I agree & this sample sounds great in it but it's not very creative
He did not alter or use it in a different way
He just used it at great moment's
I love this song btw & the song it sampled
Kanye got me into king crimson partially
Yeah
This sample 100% ruined power. Just doesn’t sound good
@@lukecockburn1140 yeah placement also matters. It works very well
@@ubt__________ hard disagree
I honestly had no clue that 21st century schitzoid man had been sampled, let alone by Kanye west.
Bro did not know the band still living
Diavolo still kinda desperate after all those deaths
Bruh their latest concert was December 8, 2021...
@@oystersoupgaming592 bro I barely knew them anyways so why would I know
Finally a jojo reference
its literally just a fucking band. Ive also watched jojos but this shit yall do, just stop. This is fr annoying.
Oh god there's one of em
this nigga
@@jakedad4957 now there’s two, what are you going to do about it
"Haha jojo reference 🤓🤓🤓"
bro its the exact same sample how has nobody noticed this yet
People have noticed but not the company that published king crimson
...do you even know how "sampling" works?
@@melon06h no but i can tell its the same sound used for the song, i dont really care about this stuff so i wouldnt know what it means anyway
@@melon06h you still need permission from the copyright owner even if it's sampling
Donut jokes
Fripp is above 60 and would still be able to knock Kanye out
He's 77, but your point still stands
"You... HAVE GENUINELY ANGERED ME!!!"- King Crimson, probably
There are so many great parts in that song and he chose that bit.
Bro is jumping from a helicopter into a pool oarty with this one
Bruh King Crimson are copyright monsters they just started putting their stuff on spotify in 2019
Nothing beats The Eagle
its whoever bought the music not the actual artists
yeah most of king crimson aint even alive
@@TeamFortressTwoGamingI love how many people rushing to KC's defense (which they don't need to do, because this isn't even a big deal) without realizing that DGM (their lable) was founded by KC's leader and guitarist Robert Fripp.
Fripp strikes again.
Damn, homie couldnt even play a LITTLE bit of the song, 21st Century Schizoid Man is so goddamn good
21st century schizoid man is also referranced in jojo with the character diavolo
Great song sad to see another great artist pass away😭🙏🕊️
Why did bro nod his head no at ye
Taking me back to playing saints row 3 on the ps3 years ago
I work in the industry. They are suing now because over the years this track has produced tons of money in royalties, licenses, and overdue clearance sample payments. Technically the illegally sampled artist can take a portion of all of these things even years down the line. And sometimes when you sue up front you don’t get a portion of the future revenue. So why not let the bill rack up for years, and then pursuit the lawsuit when the money has been made? Yah feel me? Smart move by them
Damn that's smart ! At that point they will probably send Kanye some flowers to thank him 😂
Yea cause that’s the best part we look forward to
Nobody cares if you like it or not if it's a sample it needs to be paid for
Not kong crimsons fault, its whoever holds the label probably
He also used parts of the instrumental and the line “neurosurgeons scream for more” but he did cut it to “neuro scream”
Just pure genius for using that sample in that part of the song, damn Ye you really are something different
r you been serious? lmao
The dickriding insane
@@nicolastrevino6391are you being serious?
love all the how all the 40 year old mums turned up to hate on kanyes music for no reason
I always thought it was “21 Century get so loud”💀
L comment section
“I typed one letter on the comments to describe something! Please love me daddy!!”
@@KalaschniKlown why are u mentioning daddies? U got daddy issues???
@@KalaschniKlown Loser
I know Power because i've played Saints Row
Yes sirr
As someone who likes king crimson, why would they try and sue a song thats been out for 13 years and sounds nothing like 21st century schizoid man.
They're suing because Kanye isn't paying them enough royalties for the sample. Not because "you plagiarized our song"...
@@melon06h They're not even suing kanye they're suing his label lol. Kanye doesn't directly pay them they get their cut out of the cut universal takes
@@peperoni9757 You get what I mean
respect for both artists, shame on the company
Fripp will have him acknowledge for this. One of the most ICONIC GROUPS EVER!
Fripp was actually totally cool with it, it’s the companies that have the issue. It all comes down to money. King Crimson doesn’t care about the sample, however
I'm a big King Crimson fan, this ticks me off.
fr, king crimson>kanye (in my opinion at least,)
@@voiivod yeah.
@@voiivod nigga what.
What? Man sampling is not copying like wtf
@@schlhq3228 If its sampled from a nother song then yes.
How the hell does King Crimson work
It basically just sk-- the effect. It's the opposite of--- their stands are sorta contradictory. Who's spamming King Crimson?
Peak sampling Peak.
Love Kanye, fly high 🕊️
I mean if I were to describe Kanye...
Lol should be the title of his next album!
They sue him bcus umg isn’t paying them??
Welp, Kanye about to meet some
And that's why Kanye should make sure he's safe
Wait
If i was king crimson would just skip time and cut out the part of me suing him and only get the result (jojo bizarre adventure reference)
The amount of people who immediately comment without watching the video... They aren't suing because Kanye sampled a part of their song. That doesn't even make sense! They're suing because Kanye isn't paying them the right amount of royalties.
He’s getting sued for a 4 second sample 😂
No he isn't... King Crimson isn't getting paid proper royalties from Universal Music Group
@@oystersoupgaming592 umg doesn't even care about king crimson. they just want the pay for themselves; king crimson said they liked this song
To explain the situation to those who are confused; King Crimson has a bunch of members who are dead so it probably is not them but the people who own the song now. Kayne did credit them and they have always had credit in the song and got royalties but the person who owns the song believes there is a discrepancy with the payments made with the amount of streams the song has. I think it is boring and stupid so.
DGM was founded by King Crimson's lead guitarist and band leader Robert Fripp.
That’s like one of his top songs. Now all of a sudden they sue
Either way it’s taken from their song, and power was a hit ever since it released anyways…
@@vdxxxy484king crimson already gave permission and loved the song before, it’s the record label now
Can’t believe Aphex twin didn’t sue
THE SAMPLING ISNT EVEN GOOD TOO, HE JUST RIPPED IT RIGHT OUT WITHOUT PUTTING ANY EFFORT INTO PROPER CLIPPING!
kanye is better at sampling than any other artist
@@SirCharles44 alright Kanye pfp
@@K_R_A_B no shit 🤯🤯 it’s almost like i just said i liked his music🤯
@@SirCharles44 beastie boys is so much better at sampling, not to mention Daft Punk
@@K_R_A_B neither of them are as good as kanye at sampling lol. i can name so many ye songs that have perfect samples
Robert Fripp strikes again
fripp shoulda did this a decade ago
kanye and king crimson = GOAT
Bro is not diavolo💀
Man shut
They're not suing. The song was made in 1965, I don't think the some 80 year old musicians who made some of the best music in the word care if some random rapper used a sample.
The one I think Kanye SHOULD get comeuppance for is his Aphex Twin sample on “Blame Game”.
If I recall correctly Kanye didn’t pay Aphex sh/t and basically screwed him over
Bro why does that part sounded like kanye
I initially couldn't believe he never got the sample cleared
But then again (this album holds a special place in my heart btw) he stole ravaged & ruined aphex twin-Avril 14th without asking
Edit: I think I'm wrong he got it cleared
I guess I don't know how complicated the legislation on sampling is or just lawsuits generally
basically, king crimson have royalties to that part of their song, and universal isnt paying them their royalty money
This sample kicks ass wouldn't you agree
Kanye sadly died in 2018
West also sampled Take me for a little while in ghost town. The original song is much better.
One of the few songs by him that I do actually like.
I hope King Crimson win as it’ll bring Kanye back to earth, with any luck.
@Absolute Degenerate woah now I wouldn’t go that far.
Great song, R.I.P tho
Doesn't particularly surprise me. Robert Fripp, the man credited with creating King Crimson is a huge stickler with copyright. It's the reason a lot of KC stuff wasn't on UA-cam until the last year or two.
Actually it’s the record label Robert fripp likes the song it’s just UMG isn’t paying what they are supposed too
You just picked different songs that sampled the original when he also sampled the original so you can just act like it’s a line of people copying each other 💀 also he isn’t getting sued at all for these
he better pay for that lawsuit, wouldn't you agree, jean pierre polnareff!!!
Mc vv is not getting swed lol
Love both songs
Original is better
Why is this guy randomly pointing in the video, it’s so unnecessary
this is like canceling someone because they said fuck on Twitter 12 years ago
Nothing like that at all, KC is suing the company behind kanyes song for not paying them enough
They really said one beat of his song is the same I’m suing them!!😭
The band and the stand are great
Why use anything from anyone else if you're that good? Make your own sample. 👍🏾
Wow! It is pretty wild that he wouldnt credit them and pay on it!
This isn’t true btw he did give credit and king crimson loved the song. Idk why this guy is spreading misinformation
Good because he doesn’t deserve the same recognition and praise as King Crimson.
I don't like Kanye West very much beyond a few songs, disregarding him being an idiot as a person, and I think King Crimson in all incarnations created some of the greatest music of the 20th century, but I cannot figure out why Robert Fripp is such a dinosaur when it comes to sampling like this.
He was actually okay with the sample, and he even scrambled to approve of it at the last minute because it hadn't been properly cleared before release. The lawsuit is because UMG wasn't paying the band the royalties they were owed.
So they sue a top 3 kanye song 13 years after it dropped? Welcome to this generation
No it’s just the record label wasn’t paying king crimsons record label