Nice Video, I flew the Otter many years ago. They have done a really good job on this version ( once the sounds get sorted out it will be very good). Good tips with the torque settings In reality we would only use flaps 40 for very short landings or if we wanted to make an early intersection, but it can be a bit of a handful in gusty conditions using full flap as there is a large pitch change when rounding out during the flare, we generally used 10 or 20 for most landings, these being on runways of 1500m +, the idea of the lower flap settings prevents you from having to drag the aircraft in therefore saving fuel and wear on the engines. It was a great aircraft to fly once you got used to the noise.
Picked up the Twin Otter recently and found your tutorials very helpful. My first couple landings weren't easy but I'm starting to get the hang of it. Definitely requires a bit more work than some other planes for sure.
Amazing! It's great fun even if it can try to catch you out on occasion! Glad you found the tutorials useful 🙂 been anywhere particular scenic or fun/tricky in the twin otter yet?
@@BritishAvgeek I've been hopping around in the Caribbean. Need to take it to Saba for that challenge. Been to a couple other small airfields with visual only approaches and they've been quite fun.
Thanks for the video Luke. I had a first flight and found the descent quite tricky (basically a try and fail and try again) approach with the power and propellor settings. Did get down but the vid. Gives some great little tips.
Awesome! It's always tough for the first few attempts and I was the same too (and still do a few mad things!) - always something to learn in the sim with these aircraft 🙂
I'm impressed by the sound. They hydraulic pump keeping the accumulator full is a unique sound that brings back memories! Second edit: After the update, transition sounds are better, but beta sound now plays when at idle sometimes. Engine start sounds are ear-searingly loud for some reason. Authentic (I love the sound of a PT6 starting), but crazy loud. Edit: after a few hours in it, the engine and prop sounds are awful and don't transition realistically at all.
Thanks for the tips, I was struggling with take-off and landing but your video helps me a lot. One of my mistake is using 10 flaps for take off and when it is very windy the plane swing left and right dangerously on the runway with the wings almost touching the ground some time. Not the kind of thing passengers would be happy about
Just baught the T. Otter Feb. 15 and am glad I found this channel and i find it's going to be abit of a challange on the water if you know what I mean. I subscribed as well
Can’t remember if it was this video or last where you said you don’t have a type rating in the plane. Correct… because it doesn’t require a type rating. Haha. Great videos. I’m doing my first training flight in a Twotter tomorrow and this was very helpful!
Great to hear thanks! 🙂 I have a fairly basic Thrustmaster T Flight HOTAS X Full Flight kit currently (though looking to get something else soon). My reverse thrust is the same as the airliners for me - a rocker on the throttle to hold reverse armed then I use the throttle to engage it and change how much power I need
The Aerosoft Twin Otter manual says to use "Decrease Thrust" for reverse (page 148). In MSFS, I opened "Decrease Thrust", clicked on START SCANNING and pulled back on both throttles from idle to reverse. It filled in JOYSTICK L-AXIS Y+ and this works for both engines. The other throttle axis might also work (JOYSTICK L-AXIS X+). I have the detents removed from both throttle axes, but I removed them before figuring out reverse, so I'm uncertain if detents have any effect on reverse. Good luck!
@@CFOPG Thanks for the follow up. I sort of have them working much as you suggest. My new super dooper computer arrived today, which will give me realistic FMSM 2020 settings. As soon as I have it up and running I'll try those settings and let you know.
After much experiment and several embarrassing crashes, using the TCA Side Stick and Quadrant as follows: Sidestick set Button 1 ( Trigger) to Toggle Reverse. Set Throttle slider to both propeller Axis 1 & 2 and reverse Axis. It shows Joystick Slider X. On the Quadrant Throttle Set Throttle Axis 1 Joystick L-Axis X and Throttle 2 to Joystick L Axis Y The engine start buttons work without modification. I set the lower buttons to left Toggle auto feathering and the right to toggle auto pilot. Method: In forward flight to engage reversers Throttle to idle Props (slider) to Full Down and press Button 1 to activate reversers and then use the reverse thrusters as in the Airbus. Don't for get to press key one to cancel reverses and to go forward. I hope this helps and if you can find a better way I'll be delighted to try it!
You're welcome 🙂 be sure to check out the one page checklist I've put together too which hopefully is of use to some - it's on the twin otter tutorial page on britishavgeek.com at the bottom
I like to fly this model too (only in VR) and with the kodiak, there are 2 phenomenous planes around now!! ...but I struggle with the autopilot descent! Any hint for me? The climb is no problem...I can adjust the climbrate very smoothly, but descending I only know the variant to enter the desired hight and the push 1 time the down button, but therefore it hit 2000ft/min very quickly....so I have to take back the throttle immediately to not overshoot the speed-limits of this beauty....
I've not noticed that being an issue myself though I know they're working on a bit juicy update for the twin otter - it might be that if this is a bug you have found it could be fixed. When it descends -2000fpm can you change it to less?
@@BritishAvgeek yessss!!!! I found the right way to fly with autopilot. So you have to push the alt button first, then you change the altitude with the knob, after that you can fine adjust with the arrow down the desired VS.....so easy, if you know....;-)
I love this airplane! fly it every other day on my channel, however I have a heck of a time maintaining approach speeds any tips? perhaps it could be my bravo settings as well...
If you beta-decent dont forget to set flaps. That's what I learned in the Turbo-Porter and thats what I do for any STOL. Unless it's just a towel you're landing on, don't set more than Flaps 30 with heavy loads or flaps 20 with light to medium ones. I usually land Props full and play with the throttle, flaps induce quiet alot of drag so easing it down is important in my opinion and to not overdo it. Just something between 70 to 80kts and as soon as you hit tarmac or dirt go full reverse throttle. Once you know how fast it stops you'll gain confidence and just send it.
@@Sk1nSz Thanks for the reply! I'm yet to really mess with reverse I have it programmed but usually otter stops quick! though i've only really been on paved surfaces! Thanks for the info!
Trying to use the VOR gauge for landing and I can’t get it to work for some reason- using similar procedures, no problem with the Cessna 152 so I know the runway I chose and the frequency I set is right - any ideas? What am I missing?
Tbh I'm not quite sure I really understand the workings of this type of engine...perhaps a vid with some detail on the links/actions of how the interaction between throttle and prop levers would be useful to a lot of us!
@@booster524 🤣🤣 in fairness I'm not sure how it's all linked - I have noticed when reducing the prop for climb it'll increase the torque setting so you could go over 50 so it seems to increase the torque output
Love the plane but the sound is terrible. It's like it just crossfades between a couple of samples. Whoever signed off on that has to be deaf. I don't think I'm going to enjopy flying it that way
I just had a quick flight and I really like it BUT the sound is horrible! The sound of the engines does not follow the throttle. Low/Mid and High throttle power is like 3 different sound stages but without audio mixing between them to make the sound more progressive. Same thing for the propellers pitch sound. Waiting for an update before flying it again. Sad...
Shame you don't think it's quite good enough for you - it's great fun though and I personally really like it (it's based on a real world aircraft too without a glass cockpit)
Seconded, it's a fun little aircraft to fly. I'm sure in time we'll find ourselves 'dirty' liveries for the model, but I'd still appreciate the aircraft for what it is.
Appalling? … so I assume from the tone of your disgust that you could do MUCH better? Development is all about tradeoffs and compromise to make deadline. I think they made a solid product and made deadline. Perfect? No. But I believe this developer has the integrity to stand behind their work and continue to improve it.
I checked the reflections in the Twin Otter. From the outside, we can clearly see the reflections of the windows, but from the inside, no reflections or scratches (with or without direct sunlight). Approaching at an angle about 2 inches from the gauges, I saw a faint reflection of the white numerals on their glass. And at night with all the cockpit lights on, you see NO glare in the cockpit windows. However, the photos in the DHC-6 manual, on pages 45 and 72, you can clearly see the reflections on the dials. So the DHC-6 has glass on its dials! Your observation is correct!
@@docandersonshow exactly that... I guess if we had a 1:1 exact replica with every click, dial, display and animation exactly as real as it gets they'd add a zero to the price tag too. It's a great add-on to cater for all kinds of simmer - from the casual gamer who has an interest through to those like ourselves who like the immersion and detail. Always a trade off somewhere and it's a fantastic price for what you get I thought
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Nice Video, I flew the Otter many years ago. They have done a really good job on this version ( once the sounds get sorted out it will be very good). Good tips with the torque settings
In reality we would only use flaps 40 for very short landings or if we wanted to make an early intersection, but it can be a bit of a handful in gusty conditions using full flap as there is a large pitch change when rounding out during the flare, we generally used 10 or 20 for most landings, these being on runways of 1500m +, the idea of the lower flap settings prevents you from having to drag the aircraft in therefore saving fuel and wear on the engines. It was a great aircraft to fly once you got used to the noise.
Awesome - great to have your tips/tricks shared too!
Picked up the Twin Otter recently and found your tutorials very helpful. My first couple landings weren't easy but I'm starting to get the hang of it. Definitely requires a bit more work than some other planes for sure.
Amazing! It's great fun even if it can try to catch you out on occasion! Glad you found the tutorials useful 🙂 been anywhere particular scenic or fun/tricky in the twin otter yet?
@@BritishAvgeek I've been hopping around in the Caribbean. Need to take it to Saba for that challenge. Been to a couple other small airfields with visual only approaches and they've been quite fun.
@@JenniferinIllinois nice! I went into Saba a while back and barely made it in 😅
Thanks for the video Luke. I had a first flight and found the descent quite tricky (basically a try and fail and try again) approach with the power and propellor settings. Did get down but the vid. Gives some great little tips.
Awesome! It's always tough for the first few attempts and I was the same too (and still do a few mad things!) - always something to learn in the sim with these aircraft 🙂
I'm impressed by the sound. They hydraulic pump keeping the accumulator full is a unique sound that brings back memories!
Second edit: After the update, transition sounds are better, but beta sound now plays when at idle sometimes. Engine start sounds are ear-searingly loud for some reason. Authentic (I love the sound of a PT6 starting), but crazy loud.
Edit: after a few hours in it, the engine and prop sounds are awful and don't transition realistically at all.
It's the small things that really make add-ons stand out
Thanks for the tips, I was struggling with take-off and landing but your video helps me a lot. One of my mistake is using 10 flaps for take off and when it is very windy the plane swing left and right dangerously on the runway with the wings almost touching the ground some time. Not the kind of thing passengers would be happy about
Just baught the T. Otter Feb. 15 and am glad I found this channel and i find it's going to be abit of a challange on the water if you know what I mean. I subscribed as well
Thanks Mike! Hope you enjoy flying the twotter it's great fun!
Can’t remember if it was this video or last where you said you don’t have a type rating in the plane. Correct… because it doesn’t require a type rating. Haha. Great videos. I’m doing my first training flight in a Twotter tomorrow and this was very helpful!
nice. i have just starting working on this airplane in Qatar, and downloaded in my MSFS, great video have a lot to learn from it :D
Excellent, enjoy!
Great series. Thank you. Do you use TCA throttle quadrant and if so how have you set up the reverse thrust.
Great to hear thanks! 🙂 I have a fairly basic Thrustmaster T Flight HOTAS X Full Flight kit currently (though looking to get something else soon). My reverse thrust is the same as the airliners for me - a rocker on the throttle to hold reverse armed then I use the throttle to engage it and change how much power I need
The Aerosoft Twin Otter manual says to use "Decrease Thrust" for reverse (page 148). In MSFS, I opened "Decrease Thrust", clicked on START SCANNING and pulled back on both throttles from idle to reverse. It filled in JOYSTICK L-AXIS Y+ and this works for both engines. The other throttle axis might also work (JOYSTICK L-AXIS X+). I have the detents removed from both throttle axes, but I removed them before figuring out reverse, so I'm uncertain if detents have any effect on reverse. Good luck!
@@CFOPG Thanks for the follow up. I sort of have them working much as you suggest. My new super dooper computer arrived today, which will give me realistic FMSM 2020 settings. As soon as I have it up and running I'll try those settings and let you know.
After much experiment and several embarrassing crashes, using the TCA Side Stick and Quadrant as follows:
Sidestick set Button 1 ( Trigger) to Toggle Reverse.
Set Throttle slider to both propeller Axis 1 & 2 and reverse Axis. It shows Joystick Slider X.
On the Quadrant Throttle Set Throttle Axis 1 Joystick L-Axis X and Throttle 2 to Joystick L Axis Y
The engine start buttons work without modification. I set the lower buttons to left Toggle auto feathering and the right to toggle auto pilot.
Method:
In forward flight to engage reversers
Throttle to idle Props (slider) to Full Down and press Button 1 to activate reversers and then use the reverse thrusters as in the Airbus.
Don't for get to press key one to cancel reverses and to go forward.
I hope this helps and if you can find a better way I'll be delighted to try it!
Thanks for another tutorial, excellent content, is there a prop sync switch?
You're welcome! Can't remember currently as I'm not near my PC but I think there was an auto sync button bottom left (might be wrong though)
Great videos - thank you. Looks like Aerosoft don't do this aircraft anymore but will do some checking out 😎😎
Thanks! And you'll be pleased to know the still do - if you're on PC get it here: contrail.shop/Twinotter
Great little videos, thanks! can't wait to get flying in this bird.
You're welcome 🙂 be sure to check out the one page checklist I've put together too which hopefully is of use to some - it's on the twin otter tutorial page on britishavgeek.com at the bottom
Awesome work with this tutorial series. Thanks
You're welcome! Hope you're enjoying the twin otter!
Thannk you very much for this series. Very helpful.
You're most welcome! 😁 Enjoy the twin otter!!
I like to fly this model too (only in VR) and with the kodiak, there are 2 phenomenous planes around now!! ...but I struggle with the autopilot descent! Any hint for me? The climb is no problem...I can adjust the climbrate very smoothly, but descending I only know the variant to enter the desired hight and the push 1 time the down button, but therefore it hit 2000ft/min very quickly....so I have to take back the throttle immediately to not overshoot the speed-limits of this beauty....
I've not noticed that being an issue myself though I know they're working on a bit juicy update for the twin otter - it might be that if this is a bug you have found it could be fixed. When it descends -2000fpm can you change it to less?
@@BritishAvgeek yessss!!!! I found the right way to fly with autopilot. So you have to push the alt button first, then you change the altitude with the knob, after that you can fine adjust with the arrow down the desired VS.....so easy, if you know....;-)
Great videoes. Thanx a lot. Really helpfull tip with 10% torque at landing. 👍
Hope you enjoyed the mini series 🙂 feel free to download the little checklist I made for it too on my website
Great job!!! Loved your tutorials!
Thanks! Great to hear 🙂🙌
Nice serie of videos, very usefull. Cheers from Argentina.
You're most welcome 🙂 glad it's been of use! 🛩️
I love this airplane! fly it every other day on my channel, however I have a heck of a time maintaining approach speeds any tips? perhaps it could be my bravo settings as well...
If you beta-decent dont forget to set flaps. That's what I learned in the Turbo-Porter and thats what I do for any STOL.
Unless it's just a towel you're landing on, don't set more than Flaps 30 with heavy loads or flaps 20 with light to medium ones.
I usually land Props full and play with the throttle, flaps induce quiet alot of drag so easing it down is important in my opinion and to not overdo it. Just something between 70 to 80kts and as soon as you hit tarmac or dirt go full reverse throttle. Once you know how fast it stops you'll gain confidence and just send it.
@@Sk1nSz Thanks for the reply! I'm yet to really mess with reverse I have it programmed but usually otter stops quick! though i've only really been on paved surfaces! Thanks for the info!
Nice work! How do you get those static 3rd person views of the landing?
Thanks! I use the drone camera and turn off follow mode 🙂 that plus a replay tool like FlightRecorder or SkyDolly (both free)
Can you make a tutorial for water control?
I'll take a look🙂
How do you get this plane?
How did a reply on your M.F.S 2020
Where can you buy this plane? is not available in your link and simmarket , Thank you!
Aerosoft suddenly took it off sale a month or so ago, didn't say why just said "it'll be back in the future"
@@BritishAvgeek 😵
Trying to use the VOR gauge for landing and I can’t get it to work for some reason- using similar procedures, no problem with the Cessna 152 so I know the runway I chose and the frequency I set is right - any ideas? What am I missing?
have you tuned NAV1 for it to link to OBS or changed it in the GPS unit to NAV? Can't remember exactly from memory though the steps required
@@BritishAvgeek got NAV1 tuned, I’ll have to double check on GPS…
Tbh I'm not quite sure I really understand the workings of this type of engine...perhaps a vid with some detail on the links/actions of how the interaction between throttle and prop levers would be useful to a lot of us!
I'm not too sure of the depth of info for that myself - there might be something that explains it in the 166 page manual 🤣
@@BritishAvgeek you have seen through my cunning plan!
@@booster524 🤣🤣 in fairness I'm not sure how it's all linked - I have noticed when reducing the prop for climb it'll increase the torque setting so you could go over 50 so it seems to increase the torque output
@@BritishAvgeek looks like a bit of research then...may have to resort to the manual. But hey, that's what makes these add-ons interesting.
@@booster524 indeed! If you find out before me do let me know!
great work :0 thanks
You're welcome 🙂 feel free to download the 1-page checklist I've made on the twin otter tutorial page on britishavgeek.com
my god so many videos in such little time
Made no sense putting Ep1 out today, Ep2 tomorrow and Ep3 the next day so I just released them 15mins apart!
Nice
How to dim the cockpit light e at night?
Turn the dial for it down (might be the ones in the overhead panel at the top left and right sides)
i have a bug where my engines won't fully cut of
hmm I've not heard of that before! Not sure what to suggest
Get this guy a Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo! :)
🤣 ooh yes please! I'm in the market for a new yoke and throttle so I might just treat myself and buy both
@@BritishAvgeek you won't regret it! Amazing products!
@@StevenKelley I've only ever heard great things 🙂
There is a guy screaming banking banking when i make a deep turn, where do i kill him?
Just open the bit out of the back of the parachute version and turn hard left to tip them out 😉🤣 basically anything over 30° triggers it
@@BritishAvgeek He must be a nervous guy because he also shouts terrain all the time 😆
@@bettytureaud 🤣🤣 best give him a drink then!
Love the plane but the sound is terrible. It's like it just crossfades between a couple of samples. Whoever signed off on that has to be deaf. I don't think I'm going to enjopy flying it that way
Sad to hear, they are working on a few issues and they'll be released in an update in the future
Aircraft must be in landing config before reaching minimums.
I just had a quick flight and I really like it BUT the sound is horrible! The sound of the engines does not follow the throttle. Low/Mid and High throttle power is like 3 different sound stages but without audio mixing between them to make the sound more progressive. Same thing for the propellers pitch sound. Waiting for an update before flying it again. Sad...
Yeah it definitely needs to be fixed and is quite disappointing. I really can’t fly it when it sounds this bad
Hopefully you've fed that back to Aerosoft via their forum. They're working on a few issues being tweaked and tested
@@BritishAvgeekIt won't be necessary. I have no doubt that the community will take care of it...
@@06L 👍
Still no glass in cockpit.
No windshield....dirt or reflections... no glass on dials and gauges.
Looks like FS9 tech.
Appalling.
Shame you don't think it's quite good enough for you - it's great fun though and I personally really like it (it's based on a real world aircraft too without a glass cockpit)
Seconded, it's a fun little aircraft to fly. I'm sure in time we'll find ourselves 'dirty' liveries for the model, but I'd still appreciate the aircraft for what it is.
Appalling? … so I assume from the tone of your disgust that you could do MUCH better? Development is all about tradeoffs and compromise to make deadline. I think they made a solid product and made deadline. Perfect? No. But I believe this developer has the integrity to stand behind their work and continue to improve it.
I checked the reflections in the Twin Otter. From the outside, we can clearly see the reflections of the windows, but from the inside, no reflections or scratches (with or without direct sunlight). Approaching at an angle about 2 inches from the gauges, I saw a faint reflection of the white numerals on their glass. And at night with all the cockpit lights on, you see NO glare in the cockpit windows. However, the photos in the DHC-6 manual, on pages 45 and 72, you can clearly see the reflections on the dials. So the DHC-6 has glass on its dials! Your observation is correct!
@@docandersonshow exactly that... I guess if we had a 1:1 exact replica with every click, dial, display and animation exactly as real as it gets they'd add a zero to the price tag too. It's a great add-on to cater for all kinds of simmer - from the casual gamer who has an interest through to those like ourselves who like the immersion and detail. Always a trade off somewhere and it's a fantastic price for what you get I thought