Good Hunting Bullets: Update
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Randy shares an update, given new bullets on the market, since his last videos on this subject.
He goes over the newer bullets and his preferences for hunting. What gives the best v
Though he does favor Nosler Partitions and Accubonds, he realizes that they are almost impossible to find.
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I have used the partition for forty years. Everything from brown bear and elk to antelope. It’s still a 100 percent performer!! 👍👍👏😀
The only problem with the knowledge to partitions are the cost. Occasionally I managed to go to the factory outlet store and it's been a couple thousand bucks in one trip on factory seconds....
Great video. I especially like your comments on BC. I shoot a 160 Partition in my 7MM Rem Mag at 2965 and get 5/8” groups at 100 yards. My friends think I’m weird for not picking a higher BC bullet. My response is when the partition stops killing critters, I’ll stop using it!
Sectional density only matters when it’s applied to bullets that stay together . That sectional density disappears when the bullets blow apart on impact . I’ve seen many people arguing that their Berger bullet has higher sectional density than a partition . Sure ..until it hits hide and bone . Great video as usual Randy ! Thanks
The Nosler Accubond and Partition are the gold standard for game.
Randy thank you for keeping us up to date on bullet technology. Our youngsters need hands on real life mentors! I hope they hear your words of wisdom!
Randy, your videos are the reason I picked up a 7mm STW. It carries huge energy at 500-700 yards and that’s as far out as I want to be when taking an Elk. That 7mm will hammer and make a clean kill with a heavy bullet. I’m learning to load off the information you have shared and thank you sir. If I find myself up in Cody I’ll be sure and stop in if at all possible. 🍻
Mr Shelby is a national treasure and I can guarantee that he doesn’t drink bud light!
Damn straight! 🇺🇸
AMEN ON STEROIDS !!!
no MAN should drink that crap
Y'all are such snowflakes.
He strikes me as being Makers Mark 46 on ice every now and then man.
I live and hunt in north central BC. That means moose, mule deer, black bear, mountain sheep, caribou, mountain goats and in recent years, more and more elk that are moving into the area. My go to rifle is my bolt action .270 but depending on circumstances I also use my .243 and my .300 Win Mag. At my local gun range an old timer gave me some reloading advice for hunting. He told me to use Nosler Partitions, 100 gr. for the .243, 150 gr, for the .270 and 180 gr. for the .300. He also advised not trying to attain the highest possible velocities but rather work up an accurate load at less than maximum loads. "It's bullet placement, not energy that quickly kills game."
That was almost 40 years ago and I've yet to see the need to try anything different for hunting loads. Like many others, I also enjoy target shooting and my local club now has a range that goes out to 1000 metres. I'm happy to try all the latest and greatest long range target bullets, powder of the month, and "target primers" but that's a very different thing from hunting.
Quick expansion and accuracy. Use eldm’s you can even go with a weaker powder charge so less recoil.
FACT@@Dcm193
The speer gold and fusion are my favorite bonded budget bullets
The new fusion tipped should be good
Good video Randy, I have been using Nosler Partition bullets for 30 years for big game and in my mind it's absolutely the best. I've tried most other brands and styles over the years and have found nothing that is better and most aren't even close. I really enjoy listening to someone that knows what they are talking about. Kudos on a great UA-cam channel from Idaho!
Totally agree using the Partitions in a wide variety of calibers and zero complaints. I've probably used 10 or 12 different brands but Nolsers is my go to for everything especially if there 400lbs and up. Whitetail are easy so Bergers kill like lightning on them and coyote. As everyone bullets are like trucks some die hard Ford's Chevys etc that's what makes life great.
Eldm’s, tmk’s a-tips.
@@Dcm193did you really just say eldm ? Wow 🤦♂️
@@user-eg8hb8xt3j yep . Puts big holes through game .
There is a lot of old timer smack talking with Randy...so with that there are equal amount of tidbits of gold and turds...
I second the accubond! Damn fine bullet! I use the 180gr and the 200gr in my 338 Win. Shoot amazing and are absolute killers. ~3,000-3,100fps
The scirocco I had accuracy issues with.. More so I couldn’t come up with a load that shot expectable. Hopefully I’ll get it figured out soon. I love that “idea” of using it lol
Thank you Randy for everything you have done to protect our game animals and hunting.
Thank you so very much. Exactly the information I was looking for. I'm sure I'm not the only one . If we could all hunt out west we would because we truly love hunting however because of our geographical locations some of us are restricted to shorter shots and because of that we've chosen smaller cartridges for our rifles . We all want to harvest game in the most ethical manner possible and we know bullet construction is a major requirement to do so. Thank you again for sharing all of your experience and knowledge. Your legacy will live on in all of these videos you've made for us. God bless you and yours. 🙂
Hello Mr and Mrs Selby. I just wanted to say that I love Randy's videos. He's a wealth of knowledge. I've been a handloader now for 15 years and I've learned more over the past year of watching Randy's videos than I did in the past 14 years. I also wanted to say I love your gunsmithing videos. It's always been a passion of mine, any work I can reasonably do on my own firearms I do. I think it's so cool how many rifles you've built over the amount of years you've been doing it! It's something I'd love to learn. You truly do build some beautiful hunting rifles. And I also want to say as a hunter I appreciate your views on long range hunting. I've been hunting for about 17 years now and have shot a lot of whitetail and mule deer, and the furthest shot I've ever made was 250 yards. I totally agree with you that shooting animals at long ranges isn't ethical and I don't believe it's truly hunting. Like you said in one of your videos, slipping up on an animal in the timber and shooting it at a reasonable distance is hunting. So anyways, I just wanted to say that I appreciate you and your wife and wish the best of luck to you guys. Take care
I agree with everything you said Randy. My 70 years hunting big game in the PNW backs up all of it. I use my .300 Win. Mag. with Nosler Partitions when I'm hunting big or potentially hazardous and use my LR Accubonds for deer at distance and year round use. They have never failed to perform when I needed them to.
This ultra long range shooting of our game animals is being promoted by so-called "influencers" a modern and worthless phenomena whos only purpose is to make money, not good decisions.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. We are all blessed to hear your words. I have been using Nosler partitions the last 40+ years only and plan to for the rest of my days.....which isn't that many
I have been reloading since 1985, always sticking to the Reloading Manuel's. With a single stage press, which takes time and patience for each stage of the reloading process. Keep up with your episodes, I'm learning more useful information, that I can apply. Thank you Randy Selby for sharing your pioneer information on reloading and guns.
I use 100gr Barnes TTSX in the 257Wby running 3540fps and have had no issues with deer or elk as long as I have a good shoulder shot.
The 250gr Accubond also worked well to 200yds in the 9.3x62 on elk. Absolutely kills like lightning out to 200yds(so far), I had a complete pass thru on an elk just behind the shoulder at 200yds.
Watching your videos has shown me that 'hunting' is more sporting and enjoyable than all this 'long range' hunting that is ruining the sport!
Thanks for your insight and experience Randy.
I simply refuse to shoot at game at any distance over 500 yards, even if I could hit my paper target consistently at 1000 yards. Respect for the creature demands such self limitation. I shoot the 7mm 175 gr Nosler Partition for almost 50 years and can only confirm your experience. My experience with Barnes X bullets goes back only 20 years but they are also a great bullet, considering the longer bearing surface, which allows to step down a few grains and make them relatively fast, even in standard rounds. A little bit of experience with the 150 gr cal. 30 Grand Slam was also very positive in my 30-06 Blaser K77. The 175 gr GK from Sierra is the only projectile I had some negative experiences in 7 x 64, a relatively slow round, 2600 ft/sec. In both instances the bullet was deflected by ribs of medium size wild boars. Since then, Sierras are used by myself only as paper punchers, since they are very accurate bullets.
You have changed my whole outlook on this sport we love so much. Thank you for your help n information
All this technology and all this fuss when a lead round ball at the proper distance and a well placed shot works just fine! Thanks for the video.
Thank you Mr. Shelby. I am still pretty wet behind the ears when it comes rifles and bullets. Have been learning a lot and what you say makes sense. I only started big game hunting back in 2015. Couple of tears ago found a UA-camr by the name of Ranch Fairy (Troy Fowler) and he also talks about broad head construction. The more I learn the more I it very interesting how archery and firearms a very similar even though they use different platforms physics doesn’t change.
In my opinion as long as you use a bonded soft point that’s accurate enough for your typical distance then you shouldn’t have a problem. As far as factory ammo goes anything nosler or swift works well. Federal fusion and terminal ascent are also great for the price. That’s just my opinion, though.
Hammer Bullets are my go to. Once you go Hammer, it’s hard to go back to lead and copper bullets.
What caliber are they and at what velocity are you shooting those bullets at? What has performance been like on game? I only ask because I have found those mono bullets to be very sensitive to velocity and shot placement. If you don’t have the minimum velocity and/or the bullet doesn’t hit something substantial enough, they tend to pencil through and not open up. I only have experience with hammer bullets and am not sure about others like Barnes. Not saying they are bad bullets at all but I think some people aren’t aware of what they require to perform. But maybe my experience was a fluke. I’ve shot 3 deer with them but that hardly counts as a large sample size. I’m interested to hear your experience. Thanks!
@@wendallpence3509 You probably know they're designed to operate differently with a more contained wound channel, but are you saying you had 3 cases where they didn't open up and fragment the tip at all? My sample size is even smaller but I hit that deer at 3k+.
Glad to hear you mention two of my favorite bullets which happen to be the Swift A-Frame and Scirocco’s
I've never had a bullet failure hunting big game using the nosler partition bullets, and I have used them for 48 years. I even bagged a big 9 point whitetail with my handloaded 257 Weatherby 100 grain partition and ìt dropped like a sack of taters from the shock of lightning 🌩
You really know how to relay good sense that most don’t give two second of thought. I use a Nosler Partition for nearly all my for medium to large game hunting applications.
Ive always favored the Sierra Game king. I do have some Speer Grand Slams to experiment with out of a 7mm rem mag!!!!
Well, you just answered my question on one of your other videos about the Barnes bullets. I love the TTSX in both my .280 and 7mm Rem Mag.
I really enjoy your videos. Very informative. Thank you. Keep up the good videos
I have been disappointed with some Hornady bullets, but I've never been disappointed with a Nosler Partition or Accubond. I like keeping the ranges closer and if I'm more than 500 yards away, I'll try and get closer. I think they call it hunting.
Good stuff, thanks for sharing .
Very true for heavier animals. i.e. "game" animals. I like your no-nonsense presentations, keep on going.
In Australia the only animals that require heavily constructed bullets are buffalo, scrub bulls, Sambar, possibly wild horses and big mud encrusted boars.
The rest of shooting in Aust. is on thin skinned animals where expansion needs to happen with 4-5 inches of penetration.
Over-penetration in loacations with higher people density is a safety hazard.
I appreciate your thoughts on the subject. I believe some of the audience would have benefited with an small explanation on the type of game hunted. A focused listener will note that your emphasis is on Elk hunting.
Of course, much of the population hunts Deer.
The problem with the Partitions is availability. You’ve heard the phrase in sport, the best ability is availability. I haven’t looked lately to see what the availability is but I had to settle for what I could get when buying ammo. Which sucks because I have about 10 different types and brands of ammo…….
Yay. First comment. Big fan of yours Mr Selby. Shot this year's deer with a 180 Nosler E-tip. Because I can't afford the other monolithic bullets. Don't know if it expanded, but punched two nice holes and the deer ran 6 inches. For health reasons, I think I'll stick with the e-tip for a while.
When I was a kid we switched from Core-Lokt to Partition as we were having a lot of meat get ruined by the Core-Lokt coming apart on blacktail deer at the close ranges we hunt them at. I've never recovered a Partition and the amount of ruined blood-shot meat went down considerably. A copper bullet like the E-tip would have been even better I think.
Use an eldm
Copper is worse at close ranges
Nosler Partition, Accubond, Long Range Accubond. Sierra Gameking, Berger Elite Hunter and Barnes TSX have all worked well for me.
Randy, I am in the south. Here, a lot of guys got on the magnum bandwagon for no reason whatsoever. 99% of their shots are under 100 yards. I have tried to explain until I was blue in the face as to why they kept inexplicably losing deer with their various thin jacket bullets. To them, their bullets are going "too fast to expand" or are they are missing. You instantly become the stupid idiot when you try to tell them their bullets are exploding on impact and simply wounding the deer. I came to my knowledge of this due to my own bad experience. About 16 years ago I had a 139gr Hornady SST blow up on my biggest buck at the time. I was shooting a 280 Rem. The deer was maybe 40 yards away. Hornaday advertised a muzzle velocity of 3100 fps for those loads and they couldn't handle the impact. That experience sent me on a massive research project. I settled on Barnes and never looked back. They have been flawless from point blank to 250 yds on 50ish deer. Had my gun shot the partitions well, I have no doubt I would have been pleased with those as well.
If u have the patience, which reloading requires anyway, there is a wealth of information in these videos
Love this man !!!! ❤️
I'm an old Hornady guy. I've reloaded for decades and that's what I trust. We all put a lot of meat on the table for sure.
I have use grand slams too in my 25-06. The 120gn grand slam 25 cal bullets. Used Hornady interlock in my 30-30, also used Speer bullets in 30-30. For flat point bullets in 30-30 I prefer Hornady 170gn Interlock or cast.
I have NEVER been disappointed with any Barnes bullet. I’ve never recovered one. The closest was one petal in the hide from a quartering to me shot. Thought he was broadside. I’ve also never had an issue with the Sierra Game Kings also. Oddly enough, they seem to shoot to the same point of impact with the same loads.
I have only recovered two after 50+ animals with them. One was a miracle basically. I found it laying on the ground some distance after it passed through a fall turkey in TX. The other one went from the neck to just under the skin on the hind quarter of a 220# whitetail.
There is a good reason why a couple series of bullets have been around forever and will be around forever, despite maybe being expensive or less than popular. Swift A frame and scirocco II, nosler partitions, spear hot core and grand slam and their once trophybonded bear claws ,barnes triple shock . Sierra game kings . All require understanding of their design purpose ,but do what they do amazingly well for their intended purposes /ranges. Many of the soft tipped bullets have two niche situations in mind. Small cartridges with low velocity like 7.62x39,.300 blk, .338 spectre, 6.8 spc,6.5 Grendel, and other intermediate cartridges OR extreme long range hunting of 600 yards + . B.c. does take consideration for extended distances because a high b.c. bullet retains inertia better which translates to more energy on target. However if it's not balanced with high sectional density bullet weight and bullet construction for the job at hand , it's cruel to use for anything but paper Targets or plinking. As he says , it's a merchandising trick to rely on that one measurement alone. A 0.500 g1 b.c. is enough to reach 1000 yards. B.c. changes with velocity. Sectional density does not... mass/weight and construction doesn't either. So learn to identify your needs and let them be met by all considerations of the bullet.
My go-to bullets for hunting is the NASA partition, if I cannot get it to group, I'll try the Nosler accubond. If this still won't group I might try a Barnes triple shot but more than likely I'm going to sell the rifle.
Wish federal would make a lighter bullet then 175grain in . 308 terminal accent. The 308 shines w a 150 ta 165 grain projectile. The 175 is making it awful anemic past 150yatds. Silly to only load the 308 terminal accent w a 175grain in my opinion
Thank you sir! Regards from Sweden
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
The comments about velocity of the bullet at impact are very important. All bullets are designed to give their best performance within a particular velocity range. E.g. a bullet that mushrooms at 7x57 velocities would probably explode at 7mm Rem Mag velocities.
Thank you Mr Shelby I really appreciate all your videos and have learned a lot from you. I agree with you on what you consider hunting bullets 100% I was wondering if you have trued Hammer bullets I’ve come to really like them and they are very accurate and on game performance is great if you haven’t tried them check them out or call them up you may like them as well. Thanks again and God bless
In listening to the videos of cartridges, calibers, firearms, placement, and everything else, what is to me some pretty substantial rules,
4) The firearm is pretty much a matter of taste. Single shot, bolt, sem. Brand, options ect.
3) The caliber is pretty much a matter of taste
A) The above-mentioned could very well be governed by governmental rules, availability, or cost
2) Placement, I am learning quite a bit about where and were not to shoot my game animal. I feel this is where some studying should be done.
B) shoulder, neck, frontal, quartering, walking away from you, being in a stand, ect.
1) Type of bullet , this is definitely one of the top contributing factors needing investigated before going on a hunt.
C) while as mentioned in A, this could be controlled by cost and availability, or law, if at all possible a investigation of " bullets " for target/ match, long range, short range, trajectory, ect. It is important to know that long range bullets do not necessarily work well for short range, or short range bullets for long ranges.
In personal experience and reading stories or watching videos of the one that "got away" , with excellent calibers, or seeing and reading the "found bullets " stories. It might be beneficial to make a " Use this bullet " for Long range, for short range, do not use for hunting list.
Even as Realgunsmith is speaking about the long range accubond and the short range accubond, I didn't know there was a short and a long range accubond.
I'm going to up my studying the correct bullets so if I am needing ammo and I'm in a store or even area that is short on caliber, brand, and bullet choices, or I'm watching cash flow, I can still make a wise choice.
If I shoot a bullet, test the bullet, and hunt with the bullet, then I know, plus the added info from the manufacturer, but if they tell you their feelings run the other way quickly.
For deer sized game at my normal hunting range of 200 yards and in here in East Texas I really like the Sierra Game King 150 grain out of my .308, and my 30 06.
Used the tipped matchking
@D C I always thought that the tipped match king was a target bullet that wasn't designed for hunting. Kind of like a full metal jacket.
@@RickNethery man that is all marketing. If they said “ise this for hunting its cheaper ,more accurate,and has better ballistics .
@@RickNethery the eldm’s are incredible.
@D C I agree, sir the ELDs are accurate. How did the match kings perform on the game you hunted ?
Higher BC out at your long range shooting (5/6/700 yards your words) retains more energy than a lower BC bullet of the same weight at the same distance.
All else equal, a bullet with a higher BC will put more energy on target than a lower BC bullet. Given two bullets of the same weight, shot at the same MUZZLE velocity, the higher BC bullet retains more velocity and energy down range. The extent of how much a BC will change depends on each unique bullet shape, aka design (higher BC). It's physics Randy...
Barnes TTSX and TacTX shoot straight and just work. I do like Gold Dots and Accubonds, as well; but I am transitioning to all Barnes.
Can't agree any more ❤👌👍
I like the speed gold dots.
Since when did big game get tougher over the Last 100 yrs. Elk and deer ect Fell to Regular cup and Core bullets at Regular Hunting Ranges.
Amen brother, far as im concerned, bc stands for before Christ
Exactly what I was thinking!
Right tool for the job, killing flies with a sledgehammer is hard on furniture. And, practice
Nosler Partitions or Swift A-Frame will take anything, anywhere and have been for years, no need to go anywhere else
Need to hear more people talk about min velocity for bullets
He is a legend
Have you ever used the .308 168 MKZ tipped copper bullet. Expands down the 1600fps. 1.48” length. It’s a cavity back bullet.
No, I haven't.
Thanks for watching.
Randy you ever used North Fork bullets they seem to be perfect bullet 400 yds and in
I shot some tipped corelokt and some norma bondstrike today and the tipped corelokt done much more damage than the bondstrike.
Whats your thoughts on the old Winchester silver tip bullets. Have a few boxes in 300win and 06.
Hi Jeff,
They've always worked fine.
Good shooting and thanks for watching.
Agreed sir 👍
Partitions aren't always accurate out of a specific rifle but if your rifle does shoot them accurately there is no reason to use something else
Higher BC bullets maintain energy for longer.
And have higher sectional density and buck the wind better...but that stuff isn't important.😁
Randy, would you recommend Federal’s terminal accent for deer sized game? Ranges 0-400. Caliber: 7 rem mag
Yes, I would. Good choice.
Thanks for watching.
I respect all of your information ! Now I bow hunted for many years! Now I no longer bow hunt and all I use is the 30 30 Winchester cartridge! What is your recommendation for an all around bullet for this cartridge on whitetail deer ,I never and haven't shot past 125 yds ! Thank you for your expertise and is greatly appreciated!God bless you and good hunting to you!
150 gr Hornady.
God bless you and yours.
Thanks for watching.
@@TheRealGunsmith thank you and your wife are good people!
I have watched many (if not all) of The Real Gunsmith's videos, and often give him a "Thumbs UP" but I do not recall him ever mentioning the "Hawk Bullets" (Salem, N.J.) or the "Trophy Bonded Bear Claw" bullets invented by Jack Carter. Or the four varieties of "A-Square' bullets invented by Lt. Col. Art Alphin. Those 3 brands of bullets have killed (very dead) many game animals. They don't fragment as the n o s l e r bullets do. {Sadly, the A-Square company is kaput / out-of-business.}
What I think I hear you saying is that there aren’t really many (any?) “bad” bullets, only bullets used at improper velocities and/or on improper targets. I don’t agree on disparaging BC entirely. It’s certainly overblown, but higher BC means more velocity and more energy down range, two things you promote.
Many high BC bullets have thin jackets & are poor game bullets. What needs done is to shot at ranges and know your drops as the BC is only a number and is constantly changing.
Thanks for watching.
All true, but all else being equal, wouldn’t you choose the higher BC bullet? I think a good example is an LRX vs. TTSX. Both perform very similarly, but I’m choosing the LRX if I can help it for its better velocity and energy retention.
Energy is over rated. Its bullet placement and construction. If it cuts vitals it will kill. Just like an arrow. Theres handguns that kill all sorts of game that dont make min recommended energy levels yet cause all sorts of damage. The whitetails ive shot with 6mm remington didnt die any slower or different than the deer ive shot with 35 whelen, 300 wsm, and 376 steyr.
Randy, any opinion on the Norma Bondstrike bullet in 300 Win Mag 180 grain for Elk? Thank you Sir! Great content here.
I've not used them, myself, so won't venture an opinion.
Thanks for watching.
Good imformation,as usual, Randy whats your take on Speers new line of Impact bullets,looks to me its Speers answer to Sierra game changers,any thoughts?
It is Speer's answer to a bonded core bullet, not to Sierra Game changer.
Thanks for watching.
HORNADY WHITETAIL I'd the ONLY bullet I've used ON ANYTHING since 1990 & before that was Remington CORE LOKT & Have NEVER had the First problem HOWEVER.... I don't hunt MOOSE, GRIZZLY, or ELK but ANYTHING ELSE Here in the EAST COAST MOUNTAINS I ALWAYS drop my game or the WHITETAIL doesn't go farther than 50 yards
Question how do hawk bullets rate I don't hear them mentioned much
Please some info in Federal Fusion bonded bullets ?
I wonder if the 175 grain Speer Grand Slam bullets is too tough for Whitetails or Mule Deer out of a 7x57 Mauser at a little over 2500 FPS. Out to 300 yards will it expand enough or just punch through. It has a sectional density of .310. At 300 yards it will still be moving at over 2000 fps with about 1650 ft pounds remaining energy. I don't shoot an anything much past 300 yards.
Probably be fine with the regular hot cor, and they are a fair bit less expensive
@@WayStedYouThanks. I just got a wild hare and bought those heavy bullets because they were available at a really good price. Also bought the 160 grain weights in the Grand Slam too. Also have some of the old 160 grain Speer flat point hot core. I think they called Mag tip. Plenty of 139/140 grain psp on hand. The gentleman I got my 9.3x62 Mauser from has hunted in Africa all his life and thinks the 175 grain bullet in the 7x57 is the greatest thing since sliced bread for African plains game up to 300 yards.
noslers for big game last 40 years ,never more than 1 shot stop
Mr. Selby. What do you think about Hammer bullets? Also, what is your opinion of the 6.5x55 Swede as a big game cartridge?
Both are good. Thanks for watching.
Me personally don't like that, match bullets are used for hunting. I know some people use them but I will never use a match bullet for hunting game, just my humble opinion.
Uhhhhh,,,,, what about the Speer Impact bullets
I haven't found any available to test, so won't comment until I do. Like so much of the components, availability is a struggle!
Thanks for watching.
I've experienced large entrance wounds with Hornady 450 bushmaster ftx bullets. Shots were under 100 yards. Small exit hole and little blood on the ground. Whitetail deer was the game. Give me a Hornady interlock. I'm not impressed with Hornadys ftx. BC 😂😂😂 agreed
2X the video speed works the best!
Hey randy, I see you mentioned Speer bullets. If you had no other choice besides Speer what would you recommend, the hot core or grand slam bullet
Speer are fine, and I'd go with the Grand Slam, a bit better than the hot core. That said, see which your particular rifle[s] like the best. That would be the best determining factor.
Thanks for watching.
I’m going to Africa with my 7 mag this fall. Curious to see ho it does on plains game. I’m shootings core locket 150 grains. I feel the 7 mag is way to po for my Pennsylvania deer or bear.
Congrats! When I went to Namibia all game taken where in the 50 to 100 yard range. Alot of stalking... including Black,and Blue wildebeest. Impala, warthog, All taken with 270 win. I took nice Berchells and Mountain Zebras, Red Hartebeast and Springbok also. (I took these with a 375 HH model 70) IMHO your 7mm 150gn will be better than adequate for all African plains game .
Hi Randy. I keep hearing about unrealistic marketing but I must not be looking at the right media because I do not see it. Can you provide me a source where ammunition that has 500ft/lbs of energy is adequate for taking our more robust North American ungulates?
LMAO..............
I mean the 44/40 has killed alot .
357 handguns have killed game just fine too. So have poachers with a 22 lr
Sounds like Mr Shelby doesn’t like Berger bullets!
Good target bullets. And get the "h" out of our name.
👍🏼🙏🏼
You say BC is of no consequence and make it seem that BC only affects bullet drop, then say people ignore energy. I wonder if you took 2 7 mm bullets of the same weight and launched them at the same velocity , one having a BC of oh say 50 higher than the other, how much the energy difference would be from let’s say 200 to 500 yards?im not suggesting you should use a target bullet on game. In my opinion that depends on what you’re looking for in a bullet. But I can assure you BC affects much more than a few inches of drop
If not 500 lb/ft, what number do you suggest for large and/or medium game?
Most say 1000ft pound minimum for deer.
He has said in past videos that 2k lbs/ft of energy minimal on large game
@@SamuelBerryhill large game like elk and moose. Deer don’t need 2000fpe to be humanely dispatched.
Energy is just a number. If you have 2k lb ft of energy and shoot through your game how much energy was transferred? How many deer have been dropped with a neck shot from a 22 lr? Caliber and bullet selection depend on the ability and willingness to take a less than perfect shot at game, which is why there are people shooting 300 mags at the same whitetails others are dropping with 223’s
@@jerryhorton2899 60% on average will be transferred when you have pass through. There is a formula and you have to calculate your environmental conditions, weight, diameter, construction. The 60% is based on the velocity of the bullet at impact on target, not muzzle velocity and 12-14” of penetration as well. A lot of variables come into play.
What’s you thoughts on the berger vld hunting bullets?
All Berger bullets are target bullets, regardless of their designation.
Thanks for watching.
They do better at long range. Jeffrey
Bergers have been phenomenal for me just sometimes picky on seating and powder load. Once you find the sweet spot they are excellent. Plenty of real world experience on game you can find on these style bullets
Berger VLD's are PERFECTLY FINE FOR HUNTING! One day we might cut through some of this FUD B.S!
No point for the bs of x amount of energy to kill.
Just get some partitions and go hunting
No thanks! I do not like frangible bullets. Frangible is great for hand grenades, but not for game animals. In the 1800's people killed game animals with lead bullets very successfully. But,,,,, it seems all game animals since the 1960's have been taking "steroids" and only Weatherby MAGNUMS and frangible bullets can bring down a four-legged critter. 🙄🙃🤕
The partition won’t do well at 800 yards lol
Should not be shooting at game at 800 yards
@@ivanhamlyn lol