Without a “TFR” (Temporary Flight Restriction) established by the FAA the local police or fire department has ABSOLUTELY no authority to prohibit aviation activities! These local yokels with a tin badge thought they had a LOT more authority than they did! They needed to stay in their lane.
Jody, thank you for bringing this story to the public. You are very gracious. I don't think I could have held my tongue. Chris Milton and Olivia Stewman are both ignorant and arrogant. They both may have done some hard work, maybe even heroic things in this catastrophe but those early hours were crucial to save lives. This was an unprecedented event and normal regulations and procedures should have been worked around immediately. Instead of welcoming aircraft to rescue people in hard to get to places they risked the victims and their own lives trying to get to them. Ridiculous. They'd rather put a boat in or throw a rope over a raging river to try and rescue someone than let a chopper fly in, pick up and bring people to safety much quicker and safer. Unbelievable. Jordan you and your son are extraordinary people and I thank you for all of your efforts. I am so glad y'all were able to save people and help so many. To the Coffeys, I am so glad y'all survived and found each other again. God bless y'all. I think a whole lot of other people could have been saved if things were handled differently. Our gubbermint should have had 1000s of our troops across the entire destruction from Helene the morning of. I continue to pray for everyone affected by the evil hurricane Helene. 🙏
Fema was in 6 states at the time working HAMSTRUNG by the rethuglican congress who just 5 weeks prior refused to fund disaster relief agencies including FEMA. Wanna complain start there
Amen !! ! .... You and Your son did the "RIGHT THING" 🙏🫶👍👏 !! Many Thanks to y'all and to all of the other SARs that showed-up and "Saved LIVES" ! Thank you Both for being "Great Fellow AMERICANS" !! God Bless y'all !! 😇🚁 🌊 🌫 🇺🇸 🙏🙏🫶
That city manager n the assistant fire chief should b "FIRED" !!! HE SAID HE WAS TRAINED FIRE THEM ITS UNEXCEPTABLE ! ONLY ALL HANDS AVAILABLE HELP OUT IN A TIME OF NEED !!!
There is a video of a man confronting several police officers and there chief asking about the 42,000 dollars worth of generators that was in the building at 7am and gone at 9am. The officers and the chief were there with the generators and other supplies. Man leaves to get a trailer or a list to go get a trailer and a list of addresses or where these generators were going to Police Department was there a gardener he comes back they're all gone I saw a small story about 2 weeks later for the police chief and several officers have been put on leave generators were found at the brother-in-law's house of the fire of the police chief the police chief says that after the gentleman left less than 10 minutes FEMA came in and take this generators to this address they didn't belong to FEMA the man let's get the trailer that was his building his property his generators the police department knew that
Remember the Las Vegas shooting? Well the guy in charge of all that disaster silently failed up ! He was given a position in Lahaina Maui! I find that little detail interesting!
One of the most important words I learned working in law enforcement was "Discretion". The Asst. Fire Chief reacted inappropiatly to the situation and in doing so put peoples lives in danger and should be held accountable. But in all probability he will not. The asst fire chief and the emergency management director should not be the same person. Those are 2 entirely different Jobs. Requiring different skills.
I think the interviewer missed an important question with the town manager - What authorization would the pilot have needed to continue his rescue? I never heard the answer to that.
Yeah, I am mad about this, even angry. This is something the entire country needs to pay attention to because the next massive disaster could be where you live!
In a MEGA diaster such as this you pull out all the stops to help YOUR community. Not stand on some sanctimonious B S because of your title or ego. As for the town manager I have one question. Did she work for the Biden Administration as a press secretary?
@@ZenaDailCommon Sense should kick in ASAP during crisis. These employees are relying on the rule book while people drown in a river/lake . Military would react to Save Lives. Fire that crew… They are out of touch with humanity. That devoted, caring helicopter guy has intelligence to Save lives in extreme situation…..There is Sooo much waste in gov’t the more I hear abt negative /delayed/restricted actions fr county officials. God Bless this Country !!!!
Thank you for doing this story. What a disgrace that this hero was treated so terribly! it is unbelievable. I wish these "drunk on power officials" would have been arrested for causing undue suffering . I read another story or two of how they stopped other people from helping people who were in desperate need. Glad I don't live in that immediate area. Thank you to all the "real heros" who have helped during this disaster. God Bless You
I saw that when it happened and that was the stupidest thing I've ever seen with that official (I didn't know who he was) threatening this guy if he went back for the lady's husband !!! He was finally rescued, pulled across the raging life-threatening river on a rope !!!
Me too! They were slated to go to the elderly and disabled. They had a list of the very people who were to get them, but I don't think the sheriff who stole them bothered to get the list.
Right STEPS! Are they that incompetent during a raging flood that people were left to die because of steps? All hands should have been on deck with only one mission - to get people out any way possible!
This should be fully investigated and new procedures for massive disaster need to be put into place to keep people who I call "balloon headed self importance" from making such life threatening decissions! The only person in this incident that needed training and certification was the Assistant Chief!
Mike Coffee was put in greater danger when they had to drag him across flood waters! This is totally imexcusable to put a person in that kind of danger when there was a safer way to get him to safety!
I believe that the fire chief that threatened to arrest the guy in the helicopter the fire chief he should lose his job or demote him there was a better way to inform him and in a respectful way to let him know way he can't go round and pick people up that he needs to have special clearance to go round rescuing people. I have no respect for that fire chief that's threatening too arrest people that are out there trying to help people
This is such a heart-wrenching story and I'm glad to see it. This pilot is a fine man. No doubt about that. But I'm puzzled. The Robinson R-44 copter holds four people. Any explanation as to why they all four couldn't fly out at the same time?
He could have had cargo aboard, the seating layout may not have allowed more, and the altitude and weather conditions might not have safely allowed more. It's the pilot's decision to make because only he knows the complete situation. He was doing all he felt he could safely do so let's respect that and him.
Here’s what I think is something interesting to point out, IF anyone from the chief, the lady answering the questions on the Chiefs behalf or any of their families would need to be rescued he would have moved the earth to make sure it was being done regardless of who was flying a helicopter out. Seems to me the Chief is a person that likes to be the one in control regardless of the severity of the situation. It’s all about what he wants done! When he wants it done! How he wants it done! His rules and only his rules. I bet a higher official contacted that chief and informed him to allow people to help, since the situation is considered a severity!! I would be ashamed to be related to someone who did something like that. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable behavior, especially by a government official employee who’s supposed to be in service of helping people out however it gets done.
This incident goes against any training of a person who has served in emergency service! You can be arrested for not giving help to a victim! Doesn't matter if it is a car wreck or a flood! That assistant chief should be arrested for endangering flood victims! No wonder so many died! That assistant chief exhibit terratorial behavior! That flood was way over their head of being able to respond with help!
Thank You for sharing this story! That Chief Idiot should be fired! He is a full of himself Jerk who doesn't need to be in that position! Those people needed help! A lot more help than that fire chief was willing to give!
I think Jordan is a hero as well and the fireman in lake lure, he should be ashamed of himself. The city manager as well. If anything ever happens where I am stranded I would hope and pray that Jordan would come and help me. God Bless
Thank you for bringing this out again. I’m sure that both Mr. Melton and Ms. Stewman would prefer it goes away quietly. What he did was at best reprehensible, and her spewing of lies and double speak was disgusting. Come on Assistant Chief Melton, what are you afraid of- Looking as rotten of a human being as Ms. Melton?
First you need to understand that capacity can vary based on weather, elevation, your fuel load,and many other things including the layout of seating. This is an R44 and has a maximum capacity of 5 if the seating is arranged for that etc. For whatever reason the pilot didn't feel it was safe to have more than 2 aboard total and his decision should be respected because only he knew the conditions and capabilities of the aircraft and himself.
@@P_RO_ With as many questionable things that happened in this disaster, everything should be questioned. You can assume all you want, but I'd rather hear the explanation from the pilot himself and make up my own mind. I don't "respect" ANY ONE'S answers at face value.
@@randythompson5441 I didn't assume anything, I just stated the specs and what the FAA requires of pilots regards legal and safe operation. You clearly have no clue about aircraft operation- just an opinion.
That officer should be fired and not be able to hold office again. This is a dispickable abuse of his authority and a disgrace of the uniform. Typical!!!
This spoke person is attempting to cover the fire departments back inside! I really wish the pilot had returned with the husband but in an area far enough away that the fire Chief couldn't do squat about it. Yes I understand this may have caused the pilot issues but the lives of People must come first always as well as the couples Cat! Now the fool who pulled this bull hockey refuses to talk with the media.. How can a fire department even threaten arrest as their Not Police officers? Something, someone stinks on that mountain side, IMPO. ❤❤❤
Amen, I agree. Charges should be placed on the assistant fire chief as to him really causing more chaos & potentially bodily harm during his choice of rescue plus his threats. Ego was blocking commonsense if there was any there?
So according to the "leader of lake lure" they are mad at the pilot for doing what they (the local emergency personnel)couldnt do at that time. Perhaps these local cops etc should stop having pissing competitions and accept help where help is offered. The public doesnt give a good crap what your job title is, we care that peoples lives are saved. Its infuriating to hear the officials excuses. Its over whelming... Accept the help!
Unfortunately they don't go by need, but by a cumbersome and inefficient "Incident Command" system which has roots back in the Republican passed "Patriot Acts" which were made into law after 9/11. In a declared disaster area they have total control and can do whatever they want to, while your civil rights are suspended.
I'm so tired of profoundly stupid people making judgement calls. Get rid of this chief! I happened to be in eastern Tennessee when Helene hit. I heard constant small plane and helicopter traffic overhead. Those private citizens were the only people flying in to help. Makes me suspicious.
She's not a very good spokeswoman for the community for sure best that have been her mom and dad wouldn't have been a thing said about it there should be charges for Mr head honcho (what he thinks) imagine how many people perished that could have been saved
That must be a terrible fire department with a fool leading it 😮
Yes I said that 😊😊😊😊
Without a “TFR” (Temporary Flight Restriction) established by the FAA the local police or fire department has ABSOLUTELY no authority to prohibit aviation activities! These local yokels with a tin badge thought they had a LOT more authority than they did! They needed to stay in their lane.
Jody, thank you for bringing this story to the public. You are very gracious. I don't think I could have held my tongue. Chris Milton and Olivia Stewman are both ignorant and arrogant. They both may have done some hard work, maybe even heroic things in this catastrophe but those early hours were crucial to save lives. This was an unprecedented event and normal regulations and procedures should have been worked around immediately. Instead of welcoming aircraft to rescue people in hard to get to places they risked the victims and their own lives trying to get to them. Ridiculous. They'd rather put a boat in or throw a rope over a raging river to try and rescue someone than let a chopper fly in, pick up and bring people to safety much quicker and safer. Unbelievable.
Jordan you and your son are extraordinary people and I thank you for all of your efforts. I am so glad y'all were able to save people and help so many.
To the Coffeys, I am so glad y'all survived and found each other again. God bless y'all. I think a whole lot of other people could have been saved if things were handled differently. Our gubbermint should have had 1000s of our troops across the entire destruction from Helene the morning of. I continue to pray for everyone affected by the evil hurricane Helene. 🙏
Fema was in 6 states at the time working HAMSTRUNG by the rethuglican congress who just 5 weeks prior refused to fund disaster relief agencies including FEMA. Wanna complain start there
Amen !!
! .... You and Your son did the "RIGHT THING" 🙏🫶👍👏 !!
Many Thanks to y'all and to all of the other SARs that showed-up and "Saved LIVES" !
Thank you Both for being "Great Fellow AMERICANS" !! God Bless y'all !! 😇🚁 🌊 🌫 🇺🇸 🙏🙏🫶
And it is 1000% untrue.
@@bobbleadventurecatwhat is untrue???
@@bobbleadventurecat You’re full of Crap!
How sick? What a power trip that man was on. Thank you too, the pilot!
Great work as always sir. God bless you.
This reporter knows how to conduct an investigative interview; better than a numbner of the national reporters.
That city manager n the assistant fire chief should b "FIRED" !!! HE SAID HE WAS TRAINED FIRE THEM ITS UNEXCEPTABLE ! ONLY ALL HANDS AVAILABLE HELP OUT IN A TIME OF NEED !!!
After all of this is over they going to be a lot of people charged because of it including fake volunteers
Saw this after it happened. Did you investigate the fire chief that stole all the donations and claimed they had to hand them out?
There is a video of a man confronting several police officers and there chief asking about the 42,000 dollars worth of generators that was in the building at 7am and gone at 9am. The officers and the chief were there with the generators and other supplies. Man leaves to get a trailer or a list to go get a trailer and a list of addresses or where these generators were going to Police Department was there a gardener he comes back they're all gone I saw a small story about 2 weeks later for the police chief and several officers have been put on leave generators were found at the brother-in-law's house of the fire of the police chief the police chief says that after the gentleman left less than 10 minutes FEMA came in and take this generators to this address they didn't belong to FEMA the man let's get the trailer that was his building his property his generators the police department knew that
The chief needs to be fired. Abuse of power?
I'm sure he was just doing what someone told him to do. The problem is that there was no preparation or coordination leading up to this event.
The CITIZENS are the main help they've received...
There’s SO many current stories to tell. I hope Queen City covers those too.
That fire chief should be fired.
Remember the Las Vegas shooting? Well the guy in charge of all that disaster silently failed up ! He was given a position in Lahaina Maui! I find that little detail interesting!
Wonder who they are taking orders from. Hmmmm I just wonder.
One of the most important words I learned working in law enforcement was "Discretion". The Asst. Fire Chief reacted inappropiatly to the situation and in doing so put peoples lives in danger and should be held accountable. But in all probability he will not. The asst fire chief and the emergency management director should not be the same person. Those are 2 entirely different Jobs. Requiring different skills.
I think the interviewer missed an important question with the town manager - What authorization would the pilot have needed to continue his rescue? I never heard the answer to that.
Great video. Thank you for your post.
Yeah, I am mad about this, even angry. This is something the entire country needs to pay attention to because the next massive disaster could be where you live!
In a MEGA diaster such as this you pull out all the stops to help YOUR community. Not stand on some sanctimonious B S because of your title or ego. As for the town manager I have one question. Did she work for the Biden Administration as a press secretary?
Absolutely so💯💯
@@ZenaDailCommon Sense should kick in ASAP during crisis. These employees are relying on the rule book while people drown in a river/lake .
Military would react to Save Lives. Fire that crew… They are out of touch with humanity. That devoted, caring helicopter guy has intelligence to Save lives in extreme situation…..There is Sooo much waste in gov’t the more I hear abt negative /delayed/restricted actions fr county officials. God Bless this Country !!!!
Thank you for doing this story. What a disgrace that this hero was treated so terribly! it is unbelievable. I wish these "drunk on power officials" would have been arrested for causing undue suffering . I read another story or two of how they stopped other people from helping people who were in desperate need. Glad I don't live in that immediate area. Thank you to all the "real heros" who have helped during this disaster. God Bless You
I lost all in lake lute. An got no help. All lake lure is worried about is lost revenue. Nor peiple that have lost all.
That is so sad! So very sorry! 💔🙏
@@DeniseTerrell-oy5tmEvil is revealed in crisis situations… God is watching and judgement with come !!!
@Plutogalaxy I did an did. An did. An still nothing man what a question
I saw that when it happened and that was the stupidest thing I've ever seen with that official (I didn't know who he was) threatening this guy if he went back for the lady's husband !!! He was finally rescued, pulled across the raging life-threatening river on a rope !!!
I'd really like to know what happened to all the electric start generators that was stolen, brand new, never started. Just gone.
Me too! They were slated to go to the elderly and disabled. They had a list of the very people who were to get them, but I don't think the sheriff who stole them bothered to get the list.
Right STEPS! Are they that incompetent during a raging flood that people were left to die because of steps? All hands should have been on deck with only one mission - to get people out any way possible!
This should be fully investigated and new procedures for massive disaster need to be put into place to keep people who I call "balloon headed self importance" from making such life threatening decissions! The only person in this incident that needed training and certification was the Assistant Chief!
The ego of the modern day tyrant is astonishing. 😮
Thank you for posting this😢
Mike Coffee was put in greater danger when they had to drag him across flood waters! This is totally imexcusable to put a person in that kind of danger when there was a safer way to get him to safety!
Absolutely 💯, this story reeks of lack of commonsense! They put him in danger because of their ego !
I believe that the fire chief that threatened to arrest the guy in the helicopter the fire chief he should lose his job or demote him there was a better way to inform him and in a respectful way to let him know way he can't go round and pick people up that he needs to have special clearance to go round rescuing people. I have no respect for that fire chief that's threatening too arrest people that are out there trying to help people
Lack of commonsense
Prayers 😢😢😢for wnc
Milton should be fired and Mike Coffey should sue the fire dept and Milton for their actions.
This is such a heart-wrenching story and I'm glad to see it. This pilot is a fine man. No doubt about that. But I'm puzzled. The Robinson R-44 copter holds four people. Any explanation as to why they all four couldn't fly out at the same time?
He could have had cargo aboard, the seating layout may not have allowed more, and the altitude and weather conditions might not have safely allowed more. It's the pilot's decision to make because only he knows the complete situation. He was doing all he felt he could safely do so let's respect that and him.
I want that choppers pilot on my Team!!
Maybe Lake Lure should have made the citizens aware sooner they were going to open the dam????
She should be fired along with the assistant chief.
Lies lies lies, cya
FEMA at work aren't we safe now
Here’s what I think is something interesting to point out, IF anyone from the chief, the lady answering the questions on the Chiefs behalf or any of their families would need to be rescued he would have moved the earth to make sure it was being done regardless of who was flying a helicopter out. Seems to me the Chief is a person that likes to be the one in control regardless of the severity of the situation.
It’s all about what he wants done! When he wants it done! How he wants it done! His rules and only his rules.
I bet a higher official contacted that chief and informed him to allow people to help, since the situation is considered a severity!!
I would be ashamed to be related to someone who did something like that. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable behavior, especially by a government official employee who’s supposed to be in service of helping people out however it gets done.
This incident goes against any training of a person who has served in emergency service! You can be arrested for not giving help to a victim! Doesn't matter if it is a car wreck or a flood! That assistant chief should be arrested for endangering flood victims! No wonder so many died! That assistant chief exhibit terratorial behavior! That flood was way over their head of being able to respond with help!
He's got a lot of blood on his hands🙏🙏🙏
Yes!!!!!
@@ZenaDail Other peoples when it should be his own.
being arrested is not a big deal it just means now the cops will have to speak with your lawyer
they are just tryn to cover their arses
She is full of crap!
Thank You for sharing this story! That Chief Idiot should be fired! He is a full of himself Jerk who doesn't need to be in that position! Those people needed help! A lot more help than that fire chief was willing to give!
Regular Citizens were leaders in the American Revolution!!
Do not apply strict rules in dire strait emergencies!!
I agree that you should have helped all you can. The right or wrong can be determined later.
I think Jordan is a hero as well and the fireman in lake lure, he should be ashamed of himself. The city manager as well. If anything ever happens where I am stranded I would hope and pray that Jordan would come and help me. God Bless
Thank you for bringing this out again. I’m sure that both Mr. Melton and Ms. Stewman would prefer it goes away quietly. What he did was at best reprehensible, and her spewing of lies and double speak was disgusting. Come on Assistant Chief Melton, what are you afraid of- Looking as rotten of a human being as Ms. Melton?
NECESSITY NULLIFIES LAW 👈
No cell service at that time 18:31
WOW
How many passengers does that chopper hold?
First you need to understand that capacity can vary based on weather, elevation, your fuel load,and many other things including the layout of seating. This is an R44 and has a maximum capacity of 5 if the seating is arranged for that etc. For whatever reason the pilot didn't feel it was safe to have more than 2 aboard total and his decision should be respected because only he knew the conditions and capabilities of the aircraft and himself.
@@P_RO_
With as many questionable things that happened in this disaster, everything should be questioned. You can assume all you want, but I'd rather hear the explanation from the pilot himself and make up my own mind. I don't "respect" ANY ONE'S answers at face value.
@@randythompson5441 I didn't assume anything, I just stated the specs and what the FAA requires of pilots regards legal and safe operation. You clearly have no clue about aircraft operation- just an opinion.
That officer should be fired and not be able to hold office again. This is a dispickable abuse of his authority and a disgrace of the uniform. Typical!!!
This spoke person is attempting to cover the fire departments back inside! I really wish the pilot had returned with the husband but in an area far enough away that the fire Chief couldn't do squat about it. Yes I understand this may have caused the pilot issues but the lives of People must come first always as well as the couples Cat! Now the fool who pulled this bull hockey refuses to talk with the media.. How can a fire department even threaten arrest as their Not Police officers? Something, someone stinks on that mountain side, IMPO. ❤❤❤
Amen, I agree. Charges should be placed on the assistant fire chief as to him really causing more chaos & potentially bodily harm during his choice of rescue plus his threats. Ego was blocking commonsense if there was any there?
I wonder what would of happened if it were the fire chief's wife,who was stranded on a cliff??
Upset? Un empathetic 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
So according to the "leader of lake lure" they are mad at the pilot for doing what they (the local emergency personnel)couldnt do at that time. Perhaps these local cops etc should stop having pissing competitions and accept help where help is offered. The public doesnt give a good crap what your job title is, we care that peoples lives are saved. Its infuriating to hear the officials excuses. Its over whelming... Accept the help!
That's a load of BS. He made a ridiculous no common sense decision.Maybe he should open a florist instead of being a fire and rescue person.
What steps are needed in an Emergency such as this horrifying devastation!!!!!😣😣
Unfortunately they don't go by need, but by a cumbersome and inefficient "Incident Command" system which has roots back in the Republican passed "Patriot Acts" which were made into law after 9/11. In a declared disaster area they have total control and can do whatever they want to, while your civil rights are suspended.
Disaster shelters with water and sanitation?
Jordan Seidam is a very special man...MAYBE WE CAN GET HIM TO RUN FOR SHERIFF AGAIN IN CHESTERFIELD!!!
That idiot needs to be fired.
That fire chief should be fired!!!
I'm so tired of profoundly stupid people making judgement calls. Get rid of this chief! I happened to be in eastern Tennessee when Helene hit. I heard constant small plane and helicopter traffic overhead. Those private citizens were the only people flying in to help. Makes me suspicious.
This is an old video.
It's a further investigation of the incident that happened in October
Assistant Fire Chief needs to find a new job. Maybe water boy on high school football team
So inefficient leadership in that county….
In dire straits rules and laws don’t count!!
Just ask Hawkeye…
Never listen to Burns and HoolaHan!!!
No!
Olivia Stewman does not to be in her position of trying to act like she is wanting to help people.
Why are you all JUST NOW posting this it happened early in the flood you should be reporting on the denial of Shed homes
She's not a very good spokeswoman for the community for sure best that have been her mom and dad wouldn't have been a thing said about it there should be charges for Mr head honcho (what he thinks) imagine how many people perished that could have been saved
HoolaHan speaking… necessary channels…