There's a scene in Dawn's Early Light where a B-52 is being chased by three MiGs. The radar operator says they have bogeys coming up on them. The pilot interjects "those aren't bogeys, thems bandits!"
@@JacenHawk Yeah, the F22 is at .51 before Iron man went supersonic, but the second time we see the HUD the F22's have caught up and, although it is hard to read, they seem to still be going .51
Yes and no. Rhodes is an O-5 but he’s not in command here, the major is the CO in this case and has Operational Control and Responsibility whereas Rhodes was asked to be there but not as a co. The major may also have an AOR in this case. Now no one is going to sound like that much of a dick but it’s not really particularly unrealistic.
I'm going out on a limb here but I think the realism ended when a Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, built an exosuit in a cave... with a box of scraps.
That depends. Sure, not calling him "sir" was disrespectful, but if the Lt. Col. wasn't in the chain of command, his rank means nothing there. Even Pvt. Snuffy is God when he is ordered to guard the gate. "Walk my post from flank to flank and take no shit from any rank."
Outside chain of command, but the Major could be asking unofficially, hence the "Rhodey". If he use Lt Colonel's Rhodes' rank, the question would be official
I wonder why movie jets are equipped with guns straight out of World War I? Movies often overdo a lot of things, but aircraft gun rate of fire seems to be the one thing they consistently under-do.
Yeah man wat the f#₹k? The actual firing rate of the cannon on an F22 is blistering fast!! These guys butchered it and this movie is supposed to be about weapons tech! Disappointing.
Outside chain of command, the Major is in charge of the situation, but will definitely listen to a higher-ranking officer. The major even tried to unofficially ask for information, saying "Rhodey"
My greatest dream as a black youth is to become a fighter pilot so I always watch your vids.....and I always memorize your words which are “make them tell you no “
I truly wish you the very best in accomplishing your dream. And yes, his motto is perfect to apply to so many aspects of life. He's a great role model.
But he didn't outrun the AIM. It literally closed on him within 3 seconds. The flares were deployed way too late, which is why it chased him and exploded in close proximity, knocking him off level controlled flight.
Yeah, CW suffers a lot from what I like to call 'lazy military man' syndrome where they're so puffed up on their own MRE induced flatulence and talking your ears off about technical matters that they ignore very obvious and basic plot points that third graders can very clearly and try and throw their credentials in your face when you call them out on it. I mean, I thought chairforce people were supposed to have a particularly high IQ that tied into being able to see the finest details. I'm glad he got out before we got into a hotwar with a peer opponent. Probably get shot down in the opening weak because he forgot to spot the very obvious SAM batteries on a very prominent hill.
so defending the movie, and sorry that i'm that guy but I would say with the man seat seperation I think the movie is trying to imply that the ejection malfunctioned and the handle you talked about was jammed or something? And the AIM 9 was catching up to him and the Iron Man suit is also supposed to be able to accelerate to pretty much impossible degrees. Anyway again sorry to be that guy, love your videos
The turn radius of a zero is so small. If the Japanese pilot was prepared properly, he could out turn fight a f-14. The f-14 would have to use the boom-and-zoom tactic. Yes, please rip up the final count down. Also, a f-18 with laser guided bombs and a night vision/infra-red pod could totally destroy any ship at night with a few passes and totally be impossible to fight or counter in any way. You would attack the Japanese at night, not during the day.
@@starleighpersonal Well, let's not be stingy..we have plenty of 'em! And with all the bean-counters & feminazi Karens in the world, our crews need to take every single chance you can get to deploy a live warshot, especially in actual combat with an armed aggressor.. Admittedly, I might've wanted to play with 'em a bit first & tag 'em with the guns too..see if the guy survives to bail. But I'd DEFINATELY have let go a sidewinder to finish off the enemy machine after the guy bails.
@@mrjava66 Considering how unholy an advantage an F-14 has in speed, energy, fire control and weapons power, there's no need to turnfight, boom&zoom would really be a good call. No need to turnfight an old prop if even your wake poses notable danger to it.
CW's head would explode from all of the director's overrides of what the technical director says. Things that are technically correct don't always make for interesting or exciting viewing.
@@sh0ckv3l33 Realistic doesn’t always mean boring, I feel like CW could do a pretty good job of keeping it interesting while making it at least a little accurate
Nope. The public had no reason to think that had anything to do with Iron Man. It's not like the military said "Well since he's made it public, we would like to revise a statement we had made months ago."
Only if he also sued the air force for unlawfully attacking him, but the court decided that even though the air force made no attempt to communicate with him, and ignored basic rank order during the operation, the actions of the F-22 pilots were still justified because Stark was flying through a no-fly-zone.
"I don't know what hostile act he did" - Would his actions on the ground in the previous scenes be viewed as hostile? It wasn't against American forces, of course, but he was an unknown causing great damage in an "active war zone." What would a real-world reaction be to something similar? Genuinely curious.
the airforce guy said it was a legal no-fly zone, which basically means if you take a plane into that airspace they consider it hostile unless they have reason to think otherwise.
I always hated that scene...Kirk Douglas couldn't make up his mind what to do and then the 20mm's only caused a little smoke when they hit the A6M's...
@@HochgeborenKlown Douglas' character wasn't convinced that it wasn't some kind of Soviet psy-op, so he was reluctant to give a shoot down order. He was fairly skeptical of the situation for most of the movie. It was only when the planes got too close to the Nimitz for comfort that he decided. All that said, I'd like to see that movie covered here too!
hello mover, according to the comics iron man can go at 4.0 mach in that suit (the mark 2) and up to 8.8 mach in his best suit (mark 40) and the speed of an aim 9 is mach 2.5 so he could outrun that missile without any trouble
Actually, if you look close at the ejected seat, the pull-handle appears wedged or somehow warped or stuck in place and cannot be pulled. that's why Ironman punches into the machanism itself to force-release the manual-chute pull.
Iron Man did in fact go supersonic just before the F22 fired the missile. I think canonically a standard Iron Man armor could go up to around mach 8. Also funny you should mention the SR-71 cause when Tony tested out the prototype of the armor in this flight scene, he actually measured his armor up against the altitude record of the SR-71.
I don't know, I see a pair of CGI F-22's chasing a CGI puppet. The F-22's are not even flying as they would in real life. Nor are vapor where they should be.
I'was thinking the same, and he gets hit with misseles and hit the ground like a doll... and he is okay, maybe they can make that more realistic if the pilot is a superhuman in some way, that's why I'like the Spartans from Halo, they are realistic in a lot or ways xd
I love how you kept correcting the major… I was in Balad watching this when it debuted there and quite a few of us were like “uhhh… you mean yes sir?” lol.
The funny part is Tony being able to go from hover to super sonic nearly instantly... The acceleration G would be insane lol and then i guess the suit protects from the sudden stop of the human jnside the suit when hitting the ground at terminal velocity or smacking buildings at high speeds... Just because the structure doesn't contact the body the inside of that suit damn sure would lol.
Say the suit was heading for Mach 2.5+ to outrun the AIM-9 in the 10 seconds since the start of the acceleration until the AIM-9 caught up, thats 8.7G, but in reality, they are at cruise before the acceleration. F22 HUD says .51 (although it says .51 after they catch up as well, probably just didn't bother changing the speed on the HUD), so he only needs to make up Mach 2 in 10 seconds which is 7G. If he has training and the iron man suit works like a G-suit, he could do that.
@@Ripsometime He doesn't have training though. We see him still very much working on the suit while watching a news broadcast about what's going on in the area. In a rage he repulsor blasts his lab, then suits up and takes off to the war zone.
@@tdylan What's to say he didn't fly high G aircraft at some point before then? Dudes an adrenaline junkie who owns a weapons manufacturer that also makes aircraft, also has high up connections in the Military, especially the airforce.
My man, Mover! The Harrier scenes from True Lies! Taking out the bridge, Arnold breaking off the rust as he takes off aggressively, and the entire building engagement. Let's get some!!!
Also something that seems strange to me and I need someone who knows to clarify it. When a bogey is in range locked on and it doesn't make any evasive maneuver keeps the same direction... Isn't it a sign that it doesn't have hostile intentions and that it just wants to leave????
funny enough, you can see on the belly-shot where tony was hanging onto it that the Raptors belong to the 71st Fighter Squadron, aptly named the Ironmen but they also didn't get the Raptor until 2023 so there's also that
@@sladestryder5264 the YF-22’s original designation was Lightning II, and then they gave it to the F-35 later when they chose raptor for the final designation
You should check the Wyvern intercept scene in Patlabor 2: The movie. It's animated, but everything down to the radio chatter seems very well thought out. You may like it.
@@Nghilifa Was just about to ask what the hell Raptors are doing with a couple Mod Deuces. Then I realized it actually sounds more like an AK than a .50cal. Been a while since I've heard either, but those are definitely not 20mil rotary cannons.
There's a UA-cam clip you should check out; it's called "Dogfight F-18 Vs Mig-29". The uploader is named Double Duke. The video is a promotional shoot done by an airshow over in Europe. Not very realistic, but I suppose that's kinda your shtick with these reactions. Anyways, check it out.
This scene brings up a question I have with regards to your training specifically, with regards to ejections and parachute landing. In all the military training specials I've seen, I've never come across pilot ejection parachute procedure. You do cover what the sequence is in this video to get out of the plane, but how much training is offered after? What type of parachute landing training is given to pilots? I'm really curious to know, if you could provide some insight into the training that you've had it would be greatly appreciated. Please & Thanks
C.W. Lemoine the “emergency manual chute handle” is on the right side of the seat. This is where he punched with his hand. The “D-Ring” is on the front of the seat between the pilots legs. But I am unaware of the pulling of the manual chute handle will separate the pilot from the seat....I will ask an egress technician tomorrow or look at the TO.
this is the movie that got me into aviation and when Lemoine said "if he hit that wing hard enough for it to break it's going to hurt" I'm thinking I feel like you don't know this but Iron man got shot by a tank while in mid air and he just brushed it off and shot a missle at the tank I don't think hitting an F-22 wing will hurt "that" much
Fantasy,fun,but nice to have a professional spot things that are outrageously incorrect,lol the harness in the F-22 is not fastened to anything,thank you Mover for your expertise,you made it fun wishing you ,success and happiness in all you do.!
CW did you see that video of the 52 F35s airborne from Hill AFB? Amazing sight. Just saw the video on UA-cam. It's from US military news. Wow it cost $44,000 an hour to operate an F35. That's nuts
I just watched an episode of making of the Mandalorian, Jon Favreau explained that they flew the route with two trainer jets to get reference plates. But they couldn't have two planes in the same shot.
HUD is from F-16 with extra fake ted triangle. And NAV mode means they are enroute, not engaging. Not to mention flying .51 mach (just below 300kts CAS). Funny how radar altitude is missing, even know they are just 1.7k feet baro. The gun sounds like AH-64 gun, not even close to M-61. Common mistake in movies when gatling guns sounds like single barrel. Most audio guys don't know the shit about it. 1:31 COMSAT rack have some gear from recording/mixing studio, you can see graphic equalizers and compressors.
Hi, I would personally recommend to watch Yukikazu and パトレイパーf15s scene. Its been said that those movies are well made but wanna make sure how the real former pilot would react.
Adding an interesting point to Mover's comment about the a2a missile, if you look on the hud, Ironman jumps from about 1100 yards/meters at 290 knots to pulling away from the Raptors at roughly 600 meters per second adding another 1300 mph to his already 330 mph in less than 4 seconds, and the pilot announcing he just went supersonic.... It stands to reason that if the acceleration continues by the time that a2a comes off the rail, Ironman is pushing Mach 3+ over the 14-second scene, probably not unreasonable given his main thrust comes from a pair of repulsor engines from the Jericho missile system. And then he adds the two hand repulsers. That kind of acceleration response is probably quite possible on a suite that weighs about the same as an aim7. I suspect Tony would be under strain as he would be pulling just a bit over 9Gs.
I know this post is long after this vid is relevant, but it don't hurt to ask questions. I heard that the G force experienced by ejected pilots causes most if not almost all of them to pass out. Everything after the ejection would have to be automatic, including seat separation. Is this correct? Also if Mover sees this I wanna say thanks for the channel and entertainment man. Keep doin what you do.
I like how this guy knows the difference between "bogey" and "bandit". I didn't watch all the vid, so I do not know if he got to explaining "bandit". All of the Continental United States is watched by long range radar sites situated along coasts and borders. Surveillance techs watch these radar. For the most part, they ignore them if they are outside the ADIZ. If they cross the ADIZ, they become "unknown". (Gotta say, here, I am former NORAD/23rd ADS, Tyndall AFB, Weapons Controller - "Oak Grove" to any 80's era fighter pilots who flew anywhere in the Southeast United States at that time). Once they cross the ADIZ, the "Identification Section" get's them first. They try to match the incoming radar track with any known, filed flight plans. Maybe it's an airliner with a non-functioning transponder, or malfunctioning radio. If they can't identify the track in a short time - literally, just a few minutes, they declare the track "Unknown". The *biggest* jump in activity in a NORAD facility is when the PA System comes on in the whole building, and the announcement is made: "Track U267.... UNKNOWN". The place erupts in activity. Weapons controllers and Senior Director staff scramble to the control room. Calls are made to scramble interceptors. ID continues to try to ID the aircraft. They have only a few minutes before the Senior Director orders an intercept. Interceptors from the nearest AFB are launched. Weapons Controllers use ground radar to vector AC to the target. About 9 times out of 10, ID will successfully ID the AC and the interceptors will RTB. But when they can't, the intercept takes place. Taking us to this place in this video. I like how this guy tells the truth about not shooting at an "unknown". "Unknown" becomes "bogey" as soon as interceptors are launched. Even once they intercept, the target is "bogey". Only when the target exhibits clearly malevolent intent does it escalate to "bandit". (I didn't watcht he whole vi, so I do not know if C.W. mentioned the "bandit" label. For me, as a Weapons Controller (because the USAF, in an extreme case of understatement, refers to an F-15 as a "weapon", not an "aircraft" - thus "Weapons Controller" instead of "Air Traffic Controller" - though I still tell people my job was "ATC", because they have no idea what a "Weapons Controller" is)... For me, the occasional intercept mission was to intercept a Soviet Union TU-95 "Bear" Delta Bomber on a run to Cuba. They fly right along the ADIZ, and then once in a while, cut in and head for land. Usually alongside the coast of Georgia or Florida. They time how long it takes our interceptors to arrive. Take pics of our planes for their intel files. We take pics of them for our intel files. They linger for a while then turn their lumbering beast back out to sea and go (went) on their way to Cuba. And, Usually, this was a pretty friendly affair. A quick exchange of salutes from both cockpits, and we go our seperate ways.
I wouldn't mind seeing you cover one of the videos "TheFlightChannel" posted a day or two ago, normally that channel covers commercial airline accidents but he recently made a video that covered/re-created an incident involving two F-14s shooting down two Libyan MIG-23s, it would be interested to get a pilots take on the incident.
Quick question: Did they at least get the F-22's gun location correct within the air frame? At least it's just the one gun, but I don't know where it was installed.
That is true an O5 does out rank a Major, However if the O5 does not fall within the Majors chain of command (observer) .The O5 does not have the authority to issue a lawful order disrupting the O4 standing orders or usurping his authority of an operation/ command of the O4. Now if he was a Full-Bird then maybe but even Full-bird knows when to stay out because he want's to make his Star.
Can you do Final Countdown? I'm not only interested in your breakdown of the flight scenes and S.O.P. accuracy, but I'm also interested in your professional opinion of how successful would the Nimitz be taking on the whole of the Japanese attack fleet.
An Aim-9 is pretty speedy off the rail. I think you once described it as “like a bottle rocket”, when you launched one. But an aim-7 or amraam has a low enough thrust to weight ratio at launch that 2 to 3 g-s of thrust in a target could out run the missile for a while. In principle, and “in character”, a better directing choice would have been a custom “gen-x/z” decoy that would hack and confuse an amraam.
Hello! I would like to ask, what is a mover in the context of the video title? English is not my first language. Only meaning I have points to your videos
i like how hes on a personal cell phone in a secure area
when Tony Stark calls you answer regardless if you're in a secure area or on Titan
@@djsonicc phones arent allowed in lol
Lol. Well it was a burner phone. 🤷♂️
@@isaac-vb1ng i don't think you understand
@@djsonicc in areas where there is sensitive information government officials are not allowed to bring in phones or other electronics
“It’s not a bogey anymore it’s a hostile” C W Lemoine: every one of these videos.
I noticed that too. Probably he knows the regulations and rules of engagement and all that, but he acts out this way so it adds excitement.
There's a scene in Dawn's Early Light where a B-52 is being chased by three MiGs. The radar operator says they have bogeys coming up on them. The pilot interjects "those aren't bogeys, thems bandits!"
They're not even close to supersonic according to that HUD...
could be knots idk didnt look
@@octobias6705 they are at .51 mach according to the HUD.
@@JacenHawk Yeah, the F22 is at .51 before Iron man went supersonic, but the second time we see the HUD the F22's have caught up and, although it is hard to read, they seem to still be going .51
@@Ripsometime Ah, didn't see a clear enough short to read it the 2nd time. That is an unfortunate slip up.
@Smash That EXACTLY
That is one of the things not realistic here, a Major is disobeying a direct order.from someone higher in rank (Lt. Colonel).
IKR! That always bugged me
Yep Colonel 1 major 0!
Yes and no. Rhodes is an O-5 but he’s not in command here, the major is the CO in this case and has Operational Control and Responsibility whereas Rhodes was asked to be there but not as a co. The major may also have an AOR in this case. Now no one is going to sound like that much of a dick but it’s not really particularly unrealistic.
@@roji556 Rhodie's official job is liaison to Stark Industries. That O-4 Watch Officer or whatever his role is in command of that room.
@@mee5601 Regardless.
"Training exercise, isn't that the usual BS?"
"It's not that simple."
"Sure it is!!"
WOW I laughed so hard
I'm going out on a limb here but I think the realism ended when a Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, built an exosuit in a cave... with a box of scraps.
How dare a movie not be realistic
Still one of the most entertaining movies of the past 2 decades :)
I'm not Tony Stark!
Iron Man 1 still better than the last 3 Avenger films combined
@@BigSkyCards23 Joke flew over your head.
Ive noticed that Major talking to a Liutenant Colonel like that, disrespectful
That depends. Sure, not calling him "sir" was disrespectful, but if the Lt. Col. wasn't in the chain of command, his rank means nothing there. Even Pvt. Snuffy is God when he is ordered to guard the gate. "Walk my post from flank to flank and take no shit from any rank."
Outside chain of command, but the Major could be asking unofficially, hence the "Rhodey". If he use Lt Colonel's Rhodes' rank, the question would be official
That's paperwork!
@@idunbeezasmart1 don't confuse your rank with my authority Captain!
His ass would be grass
I wonder why movie jets are equipped with guns straight out of World War I? Movies often overdo a lot of things, but aircraft gun rate of fire seems to be the one thing they consistently under-do.
I'm guessing so that normal folks can hear it. Modern aircraft guns fire too fast.
And the Aim 9 also has a very little scan zone in the movie.
Yeah man wat the f#₹k?
The actual firing rate of the cannon on an F22 is blistering fast!!
These guys butchered it and this movie is supposed to be about weapons tech!
Disappointing.
@@djsonicc what do you mean? You can hear the gun just fine it goes BRRRRRRRRT
@@Swedester I think he means by the time you hear it, you may not hear it any longer?
That major is now job-less, how does he talk like that to a guy higher than him.
Iron majors... gotta have them.
Outside chain of command, the Major is in charge of the situation, but will definitely listen to a higher-ranking officer. The major even tried to unofficially ask for information, saying "Rhodey"
He is in Iron Man 2.
My greatest dream as a black youth is to become a fighter pilot so I always watch your vids.....and I always memorize your words which are “make them tell you no “
You can do it. Keep working toward it
I truly wish you the very best in accomplishing your dream. And yes, his motto is perfect to apply to so many aspects of life. He's a great role model.
Here's a little inspiration for ya! Does my alma mater proud. Aggie Pride!! ua-cam.com/video/FarARtZpMPs/v-deo.html
@ajaymanhimselfcodner are you a pilot yet?
Well Tony technically wasn't out running the AIM-9 but I will say he did release those flares a little bit late.
Obviously. The blast causes him a minor inconvenience.
But he didn't outrun the AIM. It literally closed on him within 3 seconds. The flares were deployed way too late, which is why it chased him and exploded in close proximity, knocking him off level controlled flight.
Yeah, CW suffers a lot from what I like to call 'lazy military man' syndrome where they're so puffed up on their own MRE induced flatulence and talking your ears off about technical matters that they ignore very obvious and basic plot points that third graders can very clearly and try and throw their credentials in your face when you call them out on it. I mean, I thought chairforce people were supposed to have a particularly high IQ that tied into being able to see the finest details. I'm glad he got out before we got into a hotwar with a peer opponent. Probably get shot down in the opening weak because he forgot to spot the very obvious SAM batteries on a very prominent hill.
@@VunderGuy get some help
I just watched this movie a few days ago and I was wondering why Mover hadn't reviewed it yet! I do love this movie, though.
so defending the movie, and sorry that i'm that guy but I would say with the man seat seperation I think the movie is trying to imply that the ejection malfunctioned and the handle you talked about was jammed or something? And the AIM 9 was catching up to him and the Iron Man suit is also supposed to be able to accelerate to pretty much impossible degrees. Anyway again sorry to be that guy, love your videos
haha safety pin was still in. thats gonna cost a job
smooch smooch
Would love to see you review the Tomcat vs. Japanese Zero scenes from The Final Countdown.
The turn radius of a zero is so small. If the Japanese pilot was prepared properly, he could out turn fight a f-14. The f-14 would have to use the boom-and-zoom tactic. Yes, please rip up the final count down.
Also, a f-18 with laser guided bombs and a night vision/infra-red pod could totally destroy any ship at night with a few passes and totally be impossible to fight or counter in any way. You would attack the Japanese at night, not during the day.
@@mrjava66 They didn't have any F/A-18s aboard Nimitz in the film. Intruders, Corsairs, at least one Viking and one (photo-recon) Crusader
they wasted a dang sidewinder on a zero
@@starleighpersonal
Well, let's not be stingy..we have plenty of 'em!
And with all the bean-counters & feminazi Karens in the world, our crews need to take every single chance you can get to deploy a live warshot, especially in actual combat with an armed aggressor..
Admittedly, I might've wanted to play with 'em a bit first & tag 'em with the guns too..see if the guy survives to bail.
But I'd DEFINATELY have let go a sidewinder to finish off the enemy machine after the guy bails.
@@mrjava66 Considering how unholy an advantage an F-14 has in speed, energy, fire control and weapons power, there's no need to turnfight, boom&zoom would really be a good call. No need to turnfight an old prop if even your wake poses notable danger to it.
Imagine CW on the set as a technical director...it would be awesome
Nope it would be a very boring movie!
Lol he’d be like ‘Nope... nope... nope...’ 🤣🤣
CW's head would explode from all of the director's overrides of what the technical director says. Things that are technically correct don't always make for interesting or exciting viewing.
you'd have people dead of boredom in the theater.
@@sh0ckv3l33 Realistic doesn’t always mean boring, I feel like CW could do a pretty good job of keeping it interesting while making it at least a little accurate
So once the public knew of Iron Man, did Stark get a bill for one destroyed F-22?
No, because the scriptwriters say so.
150 million dollar a POP lmao
Nope. The public had no reason to think that had anything to do with Iron Man. It's not like the military said "Well since he's made it public, we would like to revise a statement we had made months ago."
@@therealsharat wrong!
Only if he also sued the air force for unlawfully attacking him, but the court decided that even though the air force made no attempt to communicate with him, and ignored basic rank order during the operation, the actions of the F-22 pilots were still justified because Stark was flying through a no-fly-zone.
"I don't know what hostile act he did" - Would his actions on the ground in the previous scenes be viewed as hostile? It wasn't against American forces, of course, but he was an unknown causing great damage in an "active war zone." What would a real-world reaction be to something similar? Genuinely curious.
the airforce guy said it was a legal no-fly zone, which basically means if you take a plane into that airspace they consider it hostile unless they have reason to think otherwise.
The “hostile” thing he did was flying in a no-fly zone, according to the movie
Could you look at the Final Countdown film, its the one where there 2 f 14's splash a pair of Zeros in WW2
Like this (was also in my feed today)
ua-cam.com/video/NkOsXNF_ZoM/v-deo.html
I am hoping for him to review that.
Yes! Final Countdown!
I always hated that scene...Kirk Douglas couldn't make up his mind what to do and then the 20mm's only caused a little smoke when they hit the A6M's...
@@HochgeborenKlown Douglas' character wasn't convinced that it wasn't some kind of Soviet psy-op, so he was reluctant to give a shoot down order. He was fairly skeptical of the situation for most of the movie. It was only when the planes got too close to the Nimitz for comfort that he decided. All that said, I'd like to see that movie covered here too!
hello mover, according to the comics iron man can go at 4.0 mach in that suit (the mark 2) and up to 8.8 mach in his best suit (mark 40) and the speed of an aim 9 is mach 2.5 so he could outrun that missile without any trouble
So you're saying he was just trolling these F-22s and could have just punched out and taken off UFO style..
that was the Mk 3 suit, not the Mk 2
He would of passed out going from his current speed to mach anything to outrun the missile.
@@gregandkaruna6674 he's supposed to have a g-proof suit. Maybe fluid lining or sth. Literally never experiences g forces
So the tic tac was iron man?!!
Actually, if you look close at the ejected seat, the pull-handle appears wedged or somehow warped or stuck in place and cannot be pulled. that's why Ironman punches into the machanism itself to force-release the manual-chute pull.
4:10 "he could probably get it out of his couch cushion" 😂🤣🤣😂🤣
YES! I think I asked for you to do this on a video a while ago. Not sure if that's why you decided to do it or not but I'm glad you did.
Iron Man did in fact go supersonic just before the F22 fired the missile. I think canonically a standard Iron Man armor could go up to around mach 8.
Also funny you should mention the SR-71 cause when Tony tested out the prototype of the armor in this flight scene, he actually measured his armor up against the altitude record of the SR-71.
I suggested this one a few months ago on another one of your "Mover Ruins Movies" videos. Glad to see it!
I didn’t know I needed this. I knew something off when I watch this. Thanks Mover.
We have to admit that ironman's F-22 scene is epic
Yep, It is!
@Norse Woodman lol as someone that doesn't really care for Marvel stories/movies, even I understood this
The whole damn Ironman movie is epic. It's one of the best Marvel movies ever.
I don't know, I see a pair of CGI F-22's chasing a CGI puppet.
The F-22's are not even flying as they would in real life. Nor are vapor where they should be.
@Mars Exulte calling out edgelord with sarcasm is just as edgy in 2020.
oh thanks mover for reacting to this! i was one of the guys that requested it. keep it up bro 👍🏽
Love this channel !! Great videos !!
Thanks Mover. You always give me a reason to come back. Thanks very much.
Mover didn’t even mention the insane amount of Gs Ironman was pulling.
I'was thinking the same, and he gets hit with misseles and hit the ground like a doll... and he is okay, maybe they can make that more realistic if the pilot is a superhuman in some way, that's why I'like the Spartans from Halo, they are realistic in a lot or ways xd
I love how you kept correcting the major… I was in Balad watching this when it debuted there and quite a few of us were like “uhhh… you mean yes sir?” lol.
I think as an airline pilot you should break down the individual "Nightmare at 10,000ft, scenes from the Twilight Zone franchise. Love your work.
My favorite series is back!
I didn't even know this channel existed until I saw it on my recommended. Good stuff! Definitely going to watch more of your videos!
You forgot the clip where he askes Jarvis "how high could the SR-71 go?" and ices up.
@Billy Hill He eventually adopted the gold titanium alloy used in satellites to overcome that icing problem lol
@@lawlessfpv There's no icing problem in space, because there's no moisture to freeze on surfaces
@@rykehuss3435 what about low earth orbit satellites?
@@lawlessfpv Theyre outside the atmosphere as well
@@rykehuss3435 they aren't. Although it's pretty far up.
A Major deciding a course of action when a Colonel asks him to stand down. That's court-martial worthy performance 👏🏻
He finally did this movie! Was waiting for so looong.
The funny part is Tony being able to go from hover to super sonic nearly instantly... The acceleration G would be insane lol and then i guess the suit protects from the sudden stop of the human jnside the suit when hitting the ground at terminal velocity or smacking buildings at high speeds... Just because the structure doesn't contact the body the inside of that suit damn sure would lol.
Yeah, ask those retired NFL players about those concussions and they were moving slower.
Say the suit was heading for Mach 2.5+ to outrun the AIM-9 in the 10 seconds since the start of the acceleration until the AIM-9 caught up, thats 8.7G, but in reality, they are at cruise before the acceleration. F22 HUD says .51 (although it says .51 after they catch up as well, probably just didn't bother changing the speed on the HUD), so he only needs to make up Mach 2 in 10 seconds which is 7G. If he has training and the iron man suit works like a G-suit, he could do that.
@@Ripsometime He doesn't have training though. We see him still very much working on the suit while watching a news broadcast about what's going on in the area. In a rage he repulsor blasts his lab, then suits up and takes off to the war zone.
@@tdylan What's to say he didn't fly high G aircraft at some point before then? Dudes an adrenaline junkie who owns a weapons manufacturer that also makes aircraft, also has high up connections in the Military, especially the airforce.
@@Ripsometime That doesn't explain his brain not crashing into his skull during the sudden stop when he does that "3 point super hero landing."
My man, Mover! The Harrier scenes from True Lies! Taking out the bridge, Arnold breaking off the rust as he takes off aggressively, and the entire building engagement. Let's get some!!!
Great Video Mover, Keep These and any video coming.
Oh my god. He took my suggestion. Love the vids my guy
One of the greatest movies of all time, the movie that allowed the entire Marvel universe to gain traction and actually happen. "not a bad movie" LOL
Could you do Independence Day? One of my favorites.
"Definitely not a bogey if you're shootin at it,"
Me: 🤣🤣 "True,"
One for the suggestion box: How about the F22 Starscream scene from Transformers?
Also something that seems strange to me and I need someone who knows to clarify it. When a bogey is in range locked on and it doesn't make any evasive maneuver keeps the same direction... Isn't it a sign that it doesn't have hostile intentions and that it just wants to leave????
funny enough, you can see on the belly-shot where tony was hanging onto it that the Raptors belong to the 71st Fighter Squadron, aptly named the Ironmen
but they also didn't get the Raptor until 2023 so there's also that
am i the only one who noticed at 4:13 he is looking at the schematics of an YF-22 lightning instead of a raptor?
Do u mean 35 or ?????
@@sladestryder5264 the YF-22’s original designation was Lightning II, and then they gave it to the F-35 later when they chose raptor for the final designation
Just found your channel Mover, I always wanted to be a fighter pilot but I'm too old now. Keep up the good work mate, you're vids are awesome!
You should check the Wyvern intercept scene in Patlabor 2: The movie.
It's animated, but everything down to the radio chatter seems very well thought out. You may like it.
They love to say bogey, don’t they. Great video, do you think you can do a mover ruins movies on the original top gun
I thought he already did Top Gun.
@@razorbackblood06 nah. Just the trailer for the new one.
1:21 They're not using guns, that's weapon release. plus that stick movement suggests they'd be rapidly diving
And the gun sounds like a .50 cal too.
@@Nghilifa Was just about to ask what the hell Raptors are doing with a couple Mod Deuces. Then I realized it actually sounds more like an AK than a .50cal. Been a while since I've heard either, but those are definitely not 20mil rotary cannons.
@@crashtestdummy9985 How good can your hearing really be if you think it's the "Mod" Deuce? (...it's the MA Deuce for anyone wondering)
There's a UA-cam clip you should check out; it's called "Dogfight F-18 Vs Mig-29". The uploader is named Double Duke. The video is a promotional shoot done by an airshow over in Europe. Not very realistic, but I suppose that's kinda your shtick with these reactions. Anyways, check it out.
This scene brings up a question I have with regards to your training specifically, with regards to ejections and parachute landing. In all the military training specials I've seen, I've never come across pilot ejection parachute procedure. You do cover what the sequence is in this video to get out of the plane, but how much training is offered after? What type of parachute landing training is given to pilots? I'm really curious to know, if you could provide some insight into the training that you've had it would be greatly appreciated. Please & Thanks
ua-cam.com/video/l1ObX0XiPkk/v-deo.html
there are special design training aircraft where the back seat( with trainee on it) can be eject while the pilot flys the aircraft around.
Dude I just love your stuff. Thanks for the details
Fighters in wingtip during an intercept- It's "Cinematic".
3:49 pretty sure he punched the manual chute release....not the ejection seat handle
I think so tool
That handle would be on the side of the seat, not where the ejection seat handle is on the front.
C.W. Lemoine You weren’t when the pilot tried the man seat sep. Hollywood made it get stuck for some reason. He punched the side of the ACES II.
C.W. Lemoine the “emergency manual chute handle” is on the right side of the seat. This is where he punched with his hand. The “D-Ring” is on the front of the seat between the pilots legs. But I am unaware of the pulling of the manual chute handle will separate the pilot from the seat....I will ask an egress technician tomorrow or look at the TO.
M61 kinda sounded like a... not a vulcan cannon.
BTW, does mover find permanent bogies irritating? And, did you write 'em up?
Thanks for this one!!!!
Don't tell Tony, he'll be upset. 😂
Hey mover. I just realized that transitioning to whirlybirds means you can keep the beard. No mask to seal up! Good job!
this is the movie that got me into aviation and when Lemoine said "if he hit that wing hard enough for it to break it's going to hurt" I'm thinking I feel like you don't know this but Iron man got shot by a tank while in mid air and he just brushed it off and shot a missle at the tank I don't think hitting an F-22 wing will hurt "that" much
Flight of the Intruder would be a good one. Really enjoy these.
Also the cannon sounds like a single barrel vickers machine gun instead of a rotary cannon.
I think the purpose of the close distance wasn't to intercept and engage, it was for visual identification of the unknown
Love the insight you provide in your videos!! Very cool stuff 👍
Pilot: it looks like a, man
Mover: Man!
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Fantasy,fun,but nice to have a professional spot things that are outrageously incorrect,lol the harness in the F-22 is not fastened to anything,thank you Mover for your expertise,you made it fun wishing you ,success and happiness in all you do.!
Been waiting for this
Hey if u haven't done it yet. You gotta do a break down of the first transformers movie. Excellent military scenes.
Been waiting for this one. Grabbing the popping corn.
CW did you see that video of the 52 F35s airborne from Hill AFB? Amazing sight. Just saw the video on UA-cam. It's from US military news. Wow it cost $44,000 an hour to operate an F35. That's nuts
I just watched an episode of making of the Mandalorian, Jon Favreau explained that they flew the route with two trainer jets to get reference plates. But they couldn't have two planes in the same shot.
There is a scene from stargate continum where F-15s and MIG 29s battle the Goa’uld death gliders. You should take a look at that scene someday.
HUD is from F-16 with extra fake ted triangle. And NAV mode means they are enroute, not engaging.
Not to mention flying .51 mach (just below 300kts CAS). Funny how radar altitude is missing, even know they are just 1.7k feet baro.
The gun sounds like AH-64 gun, not even close to M-61. Common mistake in movies when gatling guns sounds like single barrel. Most audio guys don't know the shit about it.
1:31 COMSAT rack have some gear from recording/mixing studio, you can see graphic equalizers and compressors.
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Happy, Nice, Sunny Day to you !
Hi, I would personally recommend to watch Yukikazu and パトレイパーf15s scene. Its been said that those movies are well made but wanna make sure how the real former pilot would react.
At 4:14 the diagram in Iron Man's HUD is a YF-22 lol, very different airframe to an F-22A.
Adding an interesting point to Mover's comment about the a2a missile, if you look on the hud, Ironman jumps from about 1100 yards/meters at 290 knots to pulling away from the Raptors at roughly 600 meters per second adding another 1300 mph to his already 330 mph in less than 4 seconds, and the pilot announcing he just went supersonic.... It stands to reason that if the acceleration continues by the time that a2a comes off the rail, Ironman is pushing Mach 3+ over the 14-second scene, probably not unreasonable given his main thrust comes from a pair of repulsor engines from the Jericho missile system. And then he adds the two hand repulsers. That kind of acceleration response is probably quite possible on a suite that weighs about the same as an aim7. I suspect Tony would be under strain as he would be pulling just a bit over 9Gs.
He was pulling up on the Man Seat Separation handle. It looked like it was jammed
aye aye airman
Also, the F-22's firing like 4 rounds per second :D Tu-tu-tu-tu... like some ancient Gatling.
I know this post is long after this vid is relevant, but it don't hurt to ask questions. I heard that the G force experienced by ejected pilots causes most if not almost all of them to pass out. Everything after the ejection would have to be automatic, including seat separation. Is this correct? Also if Mover sees this I wanna say thanks for the channel and entertainment man. Keep doin what you do.
Iron man was probably accelerating to mach 2. But the AIM9 caught up. He didn't outrun it tbf.
1:50 Surprised to see that it's downloaded from UA-cam, not Pirate Bay :o)
I like how this guy knows the difference between "bogey" and "bandit". I didn't watch all the vid, so I do not know if he got to explaining "bandit".
All of the Continental United States is watched by long range radar sites situated along coasts and borders. Surveillance techs watch these radar. For the most part, they ignore them if they are outside the ADIZ. If they cross the ADIZ, they become "unknown". (Gotta say, here, I am former NORAD/23rd ADS, Tyndall AFB, Weapons Controller - "Oak Grove" to any 80's era fighter pilots who flew anywhere in the Southeast United States at that time). Once they cross the ADIZ, the "Identification Section" get's them first. They try to match the incoming radar track with any known, filed flight plans. Maybe it's an airliner with a non-functioning transponder, or malfunctioning radio. If they can't identify the track in a short time - literally, just a few minutes, they declare the track "Unknown".
The *biggest* jump in activity in a NORAD facility is when the PA System comes on in the whole building, and the announcement is made: "Track U267.... UNKNOWN". The place erupts in activity. Weapons controllers and Senior Director staff scramble to the control room. Calls are made to scramble interceptors. ID continues to try to ID the aircraft. They have only a few minutes before the Senior Director orders an intercept. Interceptors from the nearest AFB are launched. Weapons Controllers use ground radar to vector AC to the target. About 9 times out of 10, ID will successfully ID the AC and the interceptors will RTB.
But when they can't, the intercept takes place. Taking us to this place in this video. I like how this guy tells the truth about not shooting at an "unknown". "Unknown" becomes "bogey" as soon as interceptors are launched. Even once they intercept, the target is "bogey". Only when the target exhibits clearly malevolent intent does it escalate to "bandit". (I didn't watcht he whole vi, so I do not know if C.W. mentioned the "bandit" label.
For me, as a Weapons Controller (because the USAF, in an extreme case of understatement, refers to an F-15 as a "weapon", not an "aircraft" - thus "Weapons Controller" instead of "Air Traffic Controller" - though I still tell people my job was "ATC", because they have no idea what a "Weapons Controller" is)... For me, the occasional intercept mission was to intercept a Soviet Union TU-95 "Bear" Delta Bomber on a run to Cuba. They fly right along the ADIZ, and then once in a while, cut in and head for land. Usually alongside the coast of Georgia or Florida. They time how long it takes our interceptors to arrive. Take pics of our planes for their intel files. We take pics of them for our intel files. They linger for a while then turn their lumbering beast back out to sea and go (went) on their way to Cuba. And, Usually, this was a pretty friendly affair. A quick exchange of salutes from both cockpits, and we go our seperate ways.
I wouldn't mind seeing you cover one of the videos "TheFlightChannel" posted a day or two ago, normally that channel covers commercial airline accidents but he recently made a video that covered/re-created an incident involving two F-14s shooting down two Libyan MIG-23s, it would be interested to get a pilots take on the incident.
Quick question: Did they at least get the F-22's gun location correct within the air frame? At least it's just the one gun, but I don't know where it was installed.
Once again - please do "Red Flag: the Ultimate Game".
Also: the spitfire scenes in Dunkirk, and Blackadder's basic flying training.
Please do Final Countdown, that would be hilarious. I think it was a Hornet vs a Zero? Been years, can't remember exactly.
I know nothing about flying, but damn, man, I enjoy watching you talk about it.
That is true an O5 does out rank a Major, However if the O5 does not fall within the Majors chain of command (observer) .The O5 does not have the authority to issue a lawful order disrupting the O4 standing orders or usurping his authority of an operation/ command of the O4. Now if he was a Full-Bird then maybe but even Full-bird knows when to stay out because he want's to make his Star.
in this part of the movie he is in a no fly zone like the movie briefly states
would love to see how Mark 50 or 85 do against F22....lol.
"You don't know what it is but you still engaged and shot it"..... Murica!!!
Can you do Final Countdown? I'm not only interested in your breakdown of the flight scenes and S.O.P. accuracy, but I'm also interested in your professional opinion of how successful would the Nimitz be taking on the whole of the Japanese attack fleet.
An Aim-9 is pretty speedy off the rail. I think you once described it as “like a bottle rocket”, when you launched one. But an aim-7 or amraam has a low enough thrust to weight ratio at launch that 2 to 3 g-s of thrust in a target could out run the missile for a while. In principle, and “in character”, a better directing choice would have been a custom “gen-x/z” decoy that would hack and confuse an amraam.
Bogey
Hello! I would like to ask, what is a mover in the context of the video title? English is not my first language. Only meaning I have points to your videos
Are you familiar with older planes? A review of midway would be pretty cool, lots of air battles
You need to review Flightplan the movie...