@@JacenHawk Yeah, the F22 is at .51 before Iron man went supersonic, but the second time we see the HUD the F22's have caught up and, although it is hard to read, they seem to still be going .51
I'm going out on a limb here but I think the realism ended when a Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, built an exosuit in a cave... with a box of scraps.
There's a scene in Dawn's Early Light where a B-52 is being chased by three MiGs. The radar operator says they have bogeys coming up on them. The pilot interjects "those aren't bogeys, thems bandits!"
That depends. Sure, not calling him "sir" was disrespectful, but if the Lt. Col. wasn't in the chain of command, his rank means nothing there. Even Pvt. Snuffy is God when he is ordered to guard the gate. "Walk my post from flank to flank and take no shit from any rank."
Outside chain of command, but the Major could be asking unofficially, hence the "Rhodey". If he use Lt Colonel's Rhodes' rank, the question would be official
Outside chain of command, the Major is in charge of the situation, but will definitely listen to a higher-ranking officer. The major even tried to unofficially ask for information, saying "Rhodey"
But he didn't outrun the AIM. It literally closed on him within 3 seconds. The flares were deployed way too late, which is why it chased him and exploded in close proximity, knocking him off level controlled flight.
Yeah, CW suffers a lot from what I like to call 'lazy military man' syndrome where they're so puffed up on their own MRE induced flatulence and talking your ears off about technical matters that they ignore very obvious and basic plot points that third graders can very clearly and try and throw their credentials in your face when you call them out on it. I mean, I thought chairforce people were supposed to have a particularly high IQ that tied into being able to see the finest details. I'm glad he got out before we got into a hotwar with a peer opponent. Probably get shot down in the opening weak because he forgot to spot the very obvious SAM batteries on a very prominent hill.
CW's head would explode from all of the director's overrides of what the technical director says. Things that are technically correct don't always make for interesting or exciting viewing.
@@sh0ckv3l33 Realistic doesn’t always mean boring, I feel like CW could do a pretty good job of keeping it interesting while making it at least a little accurate
Nope. The public had no reason to think that had anything to do with Iron Man. It's not like the military said "Well since he's made it public, we would like to revise a statement we had made months ago."
Only if he also sued the air force for unlawfully attacking him, but the court decided that even though the air force made no attempt to communicate with him, and ignored basic rank order during the operation, the actions of the F-22 pilots were still justified because Stark was flying through a no-fly-zone.
The turn radius of a zero is so small. If the Japanese pilot was prepared properly, he could out turn fight a f-14. The f-14 would have to use the boom-and-zoom tactic. Yes, please rip up the final count down. Also, a f-18 with laser guided bombs and a night vision/infra-red pod could totally destroy any ship at night with a few passes and totally be impossible to fight or counter in any way. You would attack the Japanese at night, not during the day.
@@starleighpersonal Well, let's not be stingy..we have plenty of 'em! And with all the bean-counters & feminazi Karens in the world, our crews need to take every single chance you can get to deploy a live warshot, especially in actual combat with an armed aggressor.. Admittedly, I might've wanted to play with 'em a bit first & tag 'em with the guns too..see if the guy survives to bail. But I'd DEFINATELY have let go a sidewinder to finish off the enemy machine after the guy bails.
I don't know, I see a pair of CGI F-22's chasing a CGI puppet. The F-22's are not even flying as they would in real life. Nor are vapor where they should be.
hello mover, according to the comics iron man can go at 4.0 mach in that suit (the mark 2) and up to 8.8 mach in his best suit (mark 40) and the speed of an aim 9 is mach 2.5 so he could outrun that missile without any trouble
"I don't know what hostile act he did" - Would his actions on the ground in the previous scenes be viewed as hostile? It wasn't against American forces, of course, but he was an unknown causing great damage in an "active war zone." What would a real-world reaction be to something similar? Genuinely curious.
the airforce guy said it was a legal no-fly zone, which basically means if you take a plane into that airspace they consider it hostile unless they have reason to think otherwise.
Actually, if you look close at the ejected seat, the pull-handle appears wedged or somehow warped or stuck in place and cannot be pulled. that's why Ironman punches into the machanism itself to force-release the manual-chute pull.
@@sladestryder5264 the YF-22’s original designation was Lightning II, and then they gave it to the F-35 later when they chose raptor for the final designation
My man, Mover! The Harrier scenes from True Lies! Taking out the bridge, Arnold breaking off the rust as he takes off aggressively, and the entire building engagement. Let's get some!!!
C.W. Lemoine the “emergency manual chute handle” is on the right side of the seat. This is where he punched with his hand. The “D-Ring” is on the front of the seat between the pilots legs. But I am unaware of the pulling of the manual chute handle will separate the pilot from the seat....I will ask an egress technician tomorrow or look at the TO.
You should check the Wyvern intercept scene in Patlabor 2: The movie. It's animated, but everything down to the radio chatter seems very well thought out. You may like it.
This scene brings up a question I have with regards to your training specifically, with regards to ejections and parachute landing. In all the military training specials I've seen, I've never come across pilot ejection parachute procedure. You do cover what the sequence is in this video to get out of the plane, but how much training is offered after? What type of parachute landing training is given to pilots? I'm really curious to know, if you could provide some insight into the training that you've had it would be greatly appreciated. Please & Thanks
Adding an interesting point to Mover's comment about the a2a missile, if you look on the hud, Ironman jumps from about 1100 yards/meters at 290 knots to pulling away from the Raptors at roughly 600 meters per second adding another 1300 mph to his already 330 mph in less than 4 seconds, and the pilot announcing he just went supersonic.... It stands to reason that if the acceleration continues by the time that a2a comes off the rail, Ironman is pushing Mach 3+ over the 14-second scene, probably not unreasonable given his main thrust comes from a pair of repulsor engines from the Jericho missile system. And then he adds the two hand repulsers. That kind of acceleration response is probably quite possible on a suite that weighs about the same as an aim7. I suspect Tony would be under strain as he would be pulling just a bit over 9Gs.
There's a UA-cam clip you should check out; it's called "Dogfight F-18 Vs Mig-29". The uploader is named Double Duke. The video is a promotional shoot done by an airshow over in Europe. Not very realistic, but I suppose that's kinda your shtick with these reactions. Anyways, check it out.
I like how this guy knows the difference between "bogey" and "bandit". I didn't watch all the vid, so I do not know if he got to explaining "bandit". All of the Continental United States is watched by long range radar sites situated along coasts and borders. Surveillance techs watch these radar. For the most part, they ignore them if they are outside the ADIZ. If they cross the ADIZ, they become "unknown". (Gotta say, here, I am former NORAD/23rd ADS, Tyndall AFB, Weapons Controller - "Oak Grove" to any 80's era fighter pilots who flew anywhere in the Southeast United States at that time). Once they cross the ADIZ, the "Identification Section" get's them first. They try to match the incoming radar track with any known, filed flight plans. Maybe it's an airliner with a non-functioning transponder, or malfunctioning radio. If they can't identify the track in a short time - literally, just a few minutes, they declare the track "Unknown". The *biggest* jump in activity in a NORAD facility is when the PA System comes on in the whole building, and the announcement is made: "Track U267.... UNKNOWN". The place erupts in activity. Weapons controllers and Senior Director staff scramble to the control room. Calls are made to scramble interceptors. ID continues to try to ID the aircraft. They have only a few minutes before the Senior Director orders an intercept. Interceptors from the nearest AFB are launched. Weapons Controllers use ground radar to vector AC to the target. About 9 times out of 10, ID will successfully ID the AC and the interceptors will RTB. But when they can't, the intercept takes place. Taking us to this place in this video. I like how this guy tells the truth about not shooting at an "unknown". "Unknown" becomes "bogey" as soon as interceptors are launched. Even once they intercept, the target is "bogey". Only when the target exhibits clearly malevolent intent does it escalate to "bandit". (I didn't watcht he whole vi, so I do not know if C.W. mentioned the "bandit" label. For me, as a Weapons Controller (because the USAF, in an extreme case of understatement, refers to an F-15 as a "weapon", not an "aircraft" - thus "Weapons Controller" instead of "Air Traffic Controller" - though I still tell people my job was "ATC", because they have no idea what a "Weapons Controller" is)... For me, the occasional intercept mission was to intercept a Soviet Union TU-95 "Bear" Delta Bomber on a run to Cuba. They fly right along the ADIZ, and then once in a while, cut in and head for land. Usually alongside the coast of Georgia or Florida. They time how long it takes our interceptors to arrive. Take pics of our planes for their intel files. We take pics of them for our intel files. They linger for a while then turn their lumbering beast back out to sea and go (went) on their way to Cuba. And, Usually, this was a pretty friendly affair. A quick exchange of salutes from both cockpits, and we go our seperate ways.
Also something that seems strange to me and I need someone who knows to clarify it. When a bogey is in range locked on and it doesn't make any evasive maneuver keeps the same direction... Isn't it a sign that it doesn't have hostile intentions and that it just wants to leave????
@@Nghilifa Was just about to ask what the hell Raptors are doing with a couple Mod Deuces. Then I realized it actually sounds more like an AK than a .50cal. Been a while since I've heard either, but those are definitely not 20mil rotary cannons.
I wouldn't mind seeing you cover one of the videos "TheFlightChannel" posted a day or two ago, normally that channel covers commercial airline accidents but he recently made a video that covered/re-created an incident involving two F-14s shooting down two Libyan MIG-23s, it would be interested to get a pilots take on the incident.
According to google, his Mark 2 Iron Man suit can go Mach 2.1, and the suit his wearing on this scene is Mark 3... so it has upgraded & improved flying capabilities... let's say that supersonic jump he do put speeds exceeding mach 1.5 and climbing.. so before the f22 pilot fired the missile (Sidewinder) that missile can go 2.5+ but his suit can go 2.5+ too... so after firing that missile, there's a delay so Tony's suit reached mach 2, that's why you see the missile is closing so slow than it should be... because Tony's Suit already reach mach 2 but the missile is a lot faster on acceleration than his suit, that's why he still put out flares, because his flying speed is slight slower than the missile... but still catching up with him. *movie clip explain*
Quick question: Did they at least get the F-22's gun location correct within the air frame? At least it's just the one gun, but I don't know where it was installed.
Fantasy,fun,but nice to have a professional spot things that are outrageously incorrect,lol the harness in the F-22 is not fastened to anything,thank you Mover for your expertise,you made it fun wishing you ,success and happiness in all you do.!
Mover can you do the scene from Transformers 1 where the A-10 and AC-130 provide CAS? And there is a raptor scene toward the end of the movie if you want to do that as well. Thanks! Really enjoy watching these movie clips with your commentary!
Well iron man one change the history Marvel Cinematic Studio forever as we see the future production's on how popular they became. Thank you so much for the video.
this is the movie that got me into aviation and when Lemoine said "if he hit that wing hard enough for it to break it's going to hurt" I'm thinking I feel like you don't know this but Iron man got shot by a tank while in mid air and he just brushed it off and shot a missle at the tank I don't think hitting an F-22 wing will hurt "that" much
Hi, I would personally recommend to watch Yukikazu and パトレイパーf15s scene. Its been said that those movies are well made but wanna make sure how the real former pilot would react.
Declared hostile because in the movie, the "BOGIE" flew into a no fly zone i.e. protected air space. That and I think producers thought it was cool lol..
I just watched an episode of making of the Mandalorian, Jon Favreau explained that they flew the route with two trainer jets to get reference plates. But they couldn't have two planes in the same shot.
CW did you see that video of the 52 F35s airborne from Hill AFB? Amazing sight. Just saw the video on UA-cam. It's from US military news. Wow it cost $44,000 an hour to operate an F35. That's nuts
the new AIM-9X block are so advanced... holy shit. how advanced? well. It has a lock-on after launch (LOAL), improvement in helmetless high off-boresight (HHOBS) performance with the F-22. whats this mean? it means the missile can be pre-designated to a onboard autopilot to after firing the missile. so, a tactic that is being used now, is that because the F-22 and most US made missiles have anti-blue on blue systems built into their weapons, they wont target within a set proximity of a blue tagged unit or vehicle. so? so. the AIM-9X has already been programmed to loop a 360 backwards, then activate lock, on the enemy aircraft tailing your F-22.
Love the videos. Have you done Air Force One? My favorite part is when the F-15's take out the MIG's even though I know it's not realistic at all. Care to take a shot at it? Keep up the great work!
HUD is from F-16 with extra fake ted triangle. And NAV mode means they are enroute, not engaging. Not to mention flying .51 mach (just below 300kts CAS). Funny how radar altitude is missing, even know they are just 1.7k feet baro. The gun sounds like AH-64 gun, not even close to M-61. Common mistake in movies when gatling guns sounds like single barrel. Most audio guys don't know the shit about it. 1:31 COMSAT rack have some gear from recording/mixing studio, you can see graphic equalizers and compressors.
well, the whole cene was pretty unrealistic BUT that thing can - at least supposedly - fly prettymuch straight into space which means it being much faster than an SR-71 is prettymuch a given though accelerating from Mach 1 to outrunning a missile in a few seconds would probably knock the human inside out even if it was possible that's one thing they constantly overlook - even if you had some miraculous hightech suit, even if it's engines are infinitely powerful and it's material indestructable - you can't do anything about G-forces - well, not anything more than a G-suit already can if you're pulling 50G's, for whatever reason it might be, no matter how indestructable the armor supposedly is the human inside won't survive it
Can you do Final Countdown? I'm not only interested in your breakdown of the flight scenes and S.O.P. accuracy, but I'm also interested in your professional opinion of how successful would the Nimitz be taking on the whole of the Japanese attack fleet.
The biggest thing is for me is would the military shot an unknown craft with out knowing what is or what is going on? IDK if they would of tried to communicate with it or not. Also the fact it engaged their enemy and was not being hostile towards them. IDK if that would also have made a difference.
Wasn't he flying in an AEZ without IDing himself? Not sure how such is actually handled but since he had a small radar signature they probably thought it was an unmanned drone which is something i'd excuse them to shoot down even without approaching first.
i like how hes on a personal cell phone in a secure area
when Tony Stark calls you answer regardless if you're in a secure area or on Titan
@@djsonicc phones arent allowed in lol
Lol. Well it was a burner phone. 🤷♂️
@@isaac-vb1ng i don't think you understand
@@djsonicc in areas where there is sensitive information government officials are not allowed to bring in phones or other electronics
They're not even close to supersonic according to that HUD...
could be knots idk didnt look
@@octobias6705 they are at .51 mach according to the HUD.
@@JacenHawk Yeah, the F22 is at .51 before Iron man went supersonic, but the second time we see the HUD the F22's have caught up and, although it is hard to read, they seem to still be going .51
@@Ripsometime Ah, didn't see a clear enough short to read it the 2nd time. That is an unfortunate slip up.
@Smash That EXACTLY
I'm going out on a limb here but I think the realism ended when a Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, built an exosuit in a cave... with a box of scraps.
How dare a movie not be realistic
Still one of the most entertaining movies of the past 2 decades :)
I'm not Tony Stark!
Iron Man 1 still better than the last 3 Avenger films combined
@@BigSkyCards23 Joke flew over your head.
“It’s not a bogey anymore it’s a hostile” C W Lemoine: every one of these videos.
I noticed that too. Probably he knows the regulations and rules of engagement and all that, but he acts out this way so it adds excitement.
There's a scene in Dawn's Early Light where a B-52 is being chased by three MiGs. The radar operator says they have bogeys coming up on them. The pilot interjects "those aren't bogeys, thems bandits!"
Ive noticed that Major talking to a Liutenant Colonel like that, disrespectful
That depends. Sure, not calling him "sir" was disrespectful, but if the Lt. Col. wasn't in the chain of command, his rank means nothing there. Even Pvt. Snuffy is God when he is ordered to guard the gate. "Walk my post from flank to flank and take no shit from any rank."
Outside chain of command, but the Major could be asking unofficially, hence the "Rhodey". If he use Lt Colonel's Rhodes' rank, the question would be official
That's paperwork!
@@idunbeezasmart1 don't confuse your rank with my authority Captain!
His ass would be grass
Well Tony technically wasn't out running the AIM-9 but I will say he did release those flares a little bit late.
Obviously. The blast causes him a minor inconvenience.
That major is now job-less, how does he talk like that to a guy higher than him.
Iron majors... gotta have them.
Outside chain of command, the Major is in charge of the situation, but will definitely listen to a higher-ranking officer. The major even tried to unofficially ask for information, saying "Rhodey"
He is in Iron Man 2.
But he didn't outrun the AIM. It literally closed on him within 3 seconds. The flares were deployed way too late, which is why it chased him and exploded in close proximity, knocking him off level controlled flight.
Yeah, CW suffers a lot from what I like to call 'lazy military man' syndrome where they're so puffed up on their own MRE induced flatulence and talking your ears off about technical matters that they ignore very obvious and basic plot points that third graders can very clearly and try and throw their credentials in your face when you call them out on it. I mean, I thought chairforce people were supposed to have a particularly high IQ that tied into being able to see the finest details. I'm glad he got out before we got into a hotwar with a peer opponent. Probably get shot down in the opening weak because he forgot to spot the very obvious SAM batteries on a very prominent hill.
@@VunderGuy get some help
Imagine CW on the set as a technical director...it would be awesome
Nope it would be a very boring movie!
Lol he’d be like ‘Nope... nope... nope...’ 🤣🤣
CW's head would explode from all of the director's overrides of what the technical director says. Things that are technically correct don't always make for interesting or exciting viewing.
you'd have people dead of boredom in the theater.
@@sh0ckv3l33 Realistic doesn’t always mean boring, I feel like CW could do a pretty good job of keeping it interesting while making it at least a little accurate
So once the public knew of Iron Man, did Stark get a bill for one destroyed F-22?
No, because the scriptwriters say so.
150 million dollar a POP lmao
Nope. The public had no reason to think that had anything to do with Iron Man. It's not like the military said "Well since he's made it public, we would like to revise a statement we had made months ago."
@@therealsharat wrong!
Only if he also sued the air force for unlawfully attacking him, but the court decided that even though the air force made no attempt to communicate with him, and ignored basic rank order during the operation, the actions of the F-22 pilots were still justified because Stark was flying through a no-fly-zone.
Would love to see you review the Tomcat vs. Japanese Zero scenes from The Final Countdown.
He can't ruin The Final Countdown; it's too good.
The turn radius of a zero is so small. If the Japanese pilot was prepared properly, he could out turn fight a f-14. The f-14 would have to use the boom-and-zoom tactic. Yes, please rip up the final count down.
Also, a f-18 with laser guided bombs and a night vision/infra-red pod could totally destroy any ship at night with a few passes and totally be impossible to fight or counter in any way. You would attack the Japanese at night, not during the day.
@@mrjava66 They didn't have any F/A-18s aboard Nimitz in the film. Intruders, Corsairs, at least one Viking and one (photo-recon) Crusader
they wasted a dang sidewinder on a zero
@@starleighpersonal
Well, let's not be stingy..we have plenty of 'em!
And with all the bean-counters & feminazi Karens in the world, our crews need to take every single chance you can get to deploy a live warshot, especially in actual combat with an armed aggressor..
Admittedly, I might've wanted to play with 'em a bit first & tag 'em with the guns too..see if the guy survives to bail.
But I'd DEFINATELY have let go a sidewinder to finish off the enemy machine after the guy bails.
We have to admit that ironman's F-22 scene is epic
Yep, It is!
@Norse Woodman lol as someone that doesn't really care for Marvel stories/movies, even I understood this
The whole damn Ironman movie is epic. It's one of the best Marvel movies ever.
I don't know, I see a pair of CGI F-22's chasing a CGI puppet.
The F-22's are not even flying as they would in real life. Nor are vapor where they should be.
@Mars Exulte calling out edgelord with sarcasm is just as edgy in 2020.
He's Ironman, he snapped Thanos out of existence, a little air to air missile has no chance...
You forgot the clip where he askes Jarvis "how high could the SR-71 go?" and ices up.
@Billy Hill He eventually adopted the gold titanium alloy used in satellites to overcome that icing problem lol
@@lawlessfpv There's no icing problem in space, because there's no moisture to freeze on surfaces
@@rykehuss3435 what about low earth orbit satellites?
@@lawlessfpv Theyre outside the atmosphere as well
@@rykehuss3435 they aren't. Although it's pretty far up.
hello mover, according to the comics iron man can go at 4.0 mach in that suit (the mark 2) and up to 8.8 mach in his best suit (mark 40) and the speed of an aim 9 is mach 2.5 so he could outrun that missile without any trouble
So you're saying he was just trolling these F-22s and could have just punched out and taken off UFO style..
that was the Mk 3 suit, not the Mk 2
He would of passed out going from his current speed to mach anything to outrun the missile.
@@gregandkaruna6674 he's supposed to have a g-proof suit. Maybe fluid lining or sth. Literally never experiences g forces
So the tic tac was iron man?!!
4:10 "he could probably get it out of his couch cushion" 😂🤣🤣😂🤣
"I don't know what hostile act he did" - Would his actions on the ground in the previous scenes be viewed as hostile? It wasn't against American forces, of course, but he was an unknown causing great damage in an "active war zone." What would a real-world reaction be to something similar? Genuinely curious.
the airforce guy said it was a legal no-fly zone, which basically means if you take a plane into that airspace they consider it hostile unless they have reason to think otherwise.
Actually, if you look close at the ejected seat, the pull-handle appears wedged or somehow warped or stuck in place and cannot be pulled. that's why Ironman punches into the machanism itself to force-release the manual-chute pull.
I didn’t know I needed this. I knew something off when I watch this. Thanks Mover.
They love to say bogey, don’t they. Great video, do you think you can do a mover ruins movies on the original top gun
I thought he already did Top Gun.
@@razorbackblood06 nah. Just the trailer for the new one.
Could you do Independence Day? One of my favorites.
YES! I think I asked for you to do this on a video a while ago. Not sure if that's why you decided to do it or not but I'm glad you did.
My favorite series is back!
One of the greatest movies of all time, the movie that allowed the entire Marvel universe to gain traction and actually happen. "not a bad movie" LOL
am i the only one who noticed at 4:13 he is looking at the schematics of an YF-22 lightning instead of a raptor?
Do u mean 35 or ?????
@@sladestryder5264 the YF-22’s original designation was Lightning II, and then they gave it to the F-35 later when they chose raptor for the final designation
One for the suggestion box: How about the F22 Starscream scene from Transformers?
My man, Mover! The Harrier scenes from True Lies! Taking out the bridge, Arnold breaking off the rust as he takes off aggressively, and the entire building engagement. Let's get some!!!
Love this channel !! Great videos !!
oh thanks mover for reacting to this! i was one of the guys that requested it. keep it up bro 👍🏽
He finally did this movie! Was waiting for so looong.
"Definitely not a bogey if you're shootin at it,"
Me: 🤣🤣 "True,"
Hey mover. I just realized that transitioning to whirlybirds means you can keep the beard. No mask to seal up! Good job!
3:49 pretty sure he punched the manual chute release....not the ejection seat handle
I think so tool
That handle would be on the side of the seat, not where the ejection seat handle is on the front.
C.W. Lemoine You weren’t when the pilot tried the man seat sep. Hollywood made it get stuck for some reason. He punched the side of the ACES II.
C.W. Lemoine the “emergency manual chute handle” is on the right side of the seat. This is where he punched with his hand. The “D-Ring” is on the front of the seat between the pilots legs. But I am unaware of the pulling of the manual chute handle will separate the pilot from the seat....I will ask an egress technician tomorrow or look at the TO.
M61 kinda sounded like a... not a vulcan cannon.
BTW, does mover find permanent bogies irritating? And, did you write 'em up?
You should check the Wyvern intercept scene in Patlabor 2: The movie.
It's animated, but everything down to the radio chatter seems very well thought out. You may like it.
Just found your channel Mover, I always wanted to be a fighter pilot but I'm too old now. Keep up the good work mate, you're vids are awesome!
Also, the F-22's firing like 4 rounds per second :D Tu-tu-tu-tu... like some ancient Gatling.
Man the sound effect of the "supposed to be" M61A2 cannon really rubs me the wrong way. 😂
This scene brings up a question I have with regards to your training specifically, with regards to ejections and parachute landing. In all the military training specials I've seen, I've never come across pilot ejection parachute procedure. You do cover what the sequence is in this video to get out of the plane, but how much training is offered after? What type of parachute landing training is given to pilots? I'm really curious to know, if you could provide some insight into the training that you've had it would be greatly appreciated. Please & Thanks
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there are special design training aircraft where the back seat( with trainee on it) can be eject while the pilot flys the aircraft around.
Pilot: it looks like a, man
Mover: Man!
😂
"You don't know what it is but you still engaged and shot it"..... Murica!!!
Adding an interesting point to Mover's comment about the a2a missile, if you look on the hud, Ironman jumps from about 1100 yards/meters at 290 knots to pulling away from the Raptors at roughly 600 meters per second adding another 1300 mph to his already 330 mph in less than 4 seconds, and the pilot announcing he just went supersonic.... It stands to reason that if the acceleration continues by the time that a2a comes off the rail, Ironman is pushing Mach 3+ over the 14-second scene, probably not unreasonable given his main thrust comes from a pair of repulsor engines from the Jericho missile system. And then he adds the two hand repulsers. That kind of acceleration response is probably quite possible on a suite that weighs about the same as an aim7. I suspect Tony would be under strain as he would be pulling just a bit over 9Gs.
Something you missed in your "Ruining" is that you don't push the pickle to fire the gun, that is what the trigger is for
There's a UA-cam clip you should check out; it's called "Dogfight F-18 Vs Mig-29". The uploader is named Double Duke. The video is a promotional shoot done by an airshow over in Europe. Not very realistic, but I suppose that's kinda your shtick with these reactions. Anyways, check it out.
I think the purpose of the close distance wasn't to intercept and engage, it was for visual identification of the unknown
I like how this guy knows the difference between "bogey" and "bandit". I didn't watch all the vid, so I do not know if he got to explaining "bandit".
All of the Continental United States is watched by long range radar sites situated along coasts and borders. Surveillance techs watch these radar. For the most part, they ignore them if they are outside the ADIZ. If they cross the ADIZ, they become "unknown". (Gotta say, here, I am former NORAD/23rd ADS, Tyndall AFB, Weapons Controller - "Oak Grove" to any 80's era fighter pilots who flew anywhere in the Southeast United States at that time). Once they cross the ADIZ, the "Identification Section" get's them first. They try to match the incoming radar track with any known, filed flight plans. Maybe it's an airliner with a non-functioning transponder, or malfunctioning radio. If they can't identify the track in a short time - literally, just a few minutes, they declare the track "Unknown".
The *biggest* jump in activity in a NORAD facility is when the PA System comes on in the whole building, and the announcement is made: "Track U267.... UNKNOWN". The place erupts in activity. Weapons controllers and Senior Director staff scramble to the control room. Calls are made to scramble interceptors. ID continues to try to ID the aircraft. They have only a few minutes before the Senior Director orders an intercept. Interceptors from the nearest AFB are launched. Weapons Controllers use ground radar to vector AC to the target. About 9 times out of 10, ID will successfully ID the AC and the interceptors will RTB.
But when they can't, the intercept takes place. Taking us to this place in this video. I like how this guy tells the truth about not shooting at an "unknown". "Unknown" becomes "bogey" as soon as interceptors are launched. Even once they intercept, the target is "bogey". Only when the target exhibits clearly malevolent intent does it escalate to "bandit". (I didn't watcht he whole vi, so I do not know if C.W. mentioned the "bandit" label.
For me, as a Weapons Controller (because the USAF, in an extreme case of understatement, refers to an F-15 as a "weapon", not an "aircraft" - thus "Weapons Controller" instead of "Air Traffic Controller" - though I still tell people my job was "ATC", because they have no idea what a "Weapons Controller" is)... For me, the occasional intercept mission was to intercept a Soviet Union TU-95 "Bear" Delta Bomber on a run to Cuba. They fly right along the ADIZ, and then once in a while, cut in and head for land. Usually alongside the coast of Georgia or Florida. They time how long it takes our interceptors to arrive. Take pics of our planes for their intel files. We take pics of them for our intel files. They linger for a while then turn their lumbering beast back out to sea and go (went) on their way to Cuba. And, Usually, this was a pretty friendly affair. A quick exchange of salutes from both cockpits, and we go our seperate ways.
Also something that seems strange to me and I need someone who knows to clarify it. When a bogey is in range locked on and it doesn't make any evasive maneuver keeps the same direction... Isn't it a sign that it doesn't have hostile intentions and that it just wants to leave????
1:21 They're not using guns, that's weapon release. plus that stick movement suggests they'd be rapidly diving
And the gun sounds like a .50 cal too.
@@Nghilifa Was just about to ask what the hell Raptors are doing with a couple Mod Deuces. Then I realized it actually sounds more like an AK than a .50cal. Been a while since I've heard either, but those are definitely not 20mil rotary cannons.
@@crashtestdummy9985 How good can your hearing really be if you think it's the "Mod" Deuce? (...it's the MA Deuce for anyone wondering)
Flight of the Intruder would be a good one. Really enjoy these.
Iron man was probably accelerating to mach 2. But the AIM9 caught up. He didn't outrun it tbf.
Fighters in wingtip during an intercept- It's "Cinematic".
Iron Man vs the Terrorists was far more amazing and satisfying than Iron Man vs. the F22 team.
I wouldn't mind seeing you cover one of the videos "TheFlightChannel" posted a day or two ago, normally that channel covers commercial airline accidents but he recently made a video that covered/re-created an incident involving two F-14s shooting down two Libyan MIG-23s, it would be interested to get a pilots take on the incident.
Dude I just love your stuff. Thanks for the details
"I don't know what hostile act he did."
Existing.
*Iron Man exists*
This guy: That suit isn't iron, It's probably just scrap metal.
According to google, his Mark 2 Iron Man suit can go Mach 2.1, and the suit his wearing on this scene is Mark 3... so it has upgraded & improved flying capabilities... let's say that supersonic jump he do put speeds exceeding mach 1.5 and climbing.. so before the f22 pilot fired the missile (Sidewinder) that missile can go 2.5+ but his suit can go 2.5+ too... so after firing that missile, there's a delay so Tony's suit reached mach 2, that's why you see the missile is closing so slow than it should be... because Tony's Suit already reach mach 2 but the missile is a lot faster on acceleration than his suit, that's why he still put out flares, because his flying speed is slight slower than the missile... but still catching up with him. *movie clip explain*
Quick question: Did they at least get the F-22's gun location correct within the air frame? At least it's just the one gun, but I don't know where it was installed.
Ive been waiting for this
Fantasy,fun,but nice to have a professional spot things that are outrageously incorrect,lol the harness in the F-22 is not fastened to anything,thank you Mover for your expertise,you made it fun wishing you ,success and happiness in all you do.!
It proves that one man can built some that can out run F 22 raptors build by a company
Iron Man rocks
Love the insight you provide in your videos!! Very cool stuff 👍
Please do Final Countdown, that would be hilarious. I think it was a Hornet vs a Zero? Been years, can't remember exactly.
Nice video bro
Mover can you do the scene from Transformers 1 where the A-10 and AC-130 provide CAS? And there is a raptor scene toward the end of the movie if you want to do that as well. Thanks! Really enjoy watching these movie clips with your commentary!
this guy looks exactly like Liev Schreiber, I literally thought "wow that's the actor from the wolverine movie"
The Hulk movie (2003) uses the RAH-66. Funny to see a non production weapon system in movies befor their program get axed.
Well iron man one change the history Marvel Cinematic Studio forever as we see the future production's on how popular they became. Thank you so much for the video.
this is the movie that got me into aviation and when Lemoine said "if he hit that wing hard enough for it to break it's going to hurt" I'm thinking I feel like you don't know this but Iron man got shot by a tank while in mid air and he just brushed it off and shot a missle at the tank I don't think hitting an F-22 wing will hurt "that" much
Been waiting for this one. Grabbing the popping corn.
I'm actually quite surprised he hasn't made any commentary on The Movie Sully.
Been waiting for this
That major should have been put on report foe disobeying a lawful order of a ranking officer.
I served in the 9th Air Force, during this time in 2008. Was since to see the seal on the wall.
Hi, I would personally recommend to watch Yukikazu and パトレイパーf15s scene. Its been said that those movies are well made but wanna make sure how the real former pilot would react.
Declared hostile because in the movie, the "BOGIE" flew into a no fly zone i.e. protected air space. That and I think producers thought it was cool lol..
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I just watched an episode of making of the Mandalorian, Jon Favreau explained that they flew the route with two trainer jets to get reference plates. But they couldn't have two planes in the same shot.
in this part of the movie he is in a no fly zone like the movie briefly states
I guess the finger tip formation is so both planes can fit in frame
That is one slow ass cannon the F-22 is shooting iron man with
Tony's HUD also shows a diagram of a YF-22, not an F-22.
CW did you see that video of the 52 F35s airborne from Hill AFB? Amazing sight. Just saw the video on UA-cam. It's from US military news. Wow it cost $44,000 an hour to operate an F35. That's nuts
Another one you could do a review on is the F-35B scene in Live Free or Die Hard!
To be honest, I think even if that AIM-9 had a direct hit with the Iron man suit, it might just made a little scratch on the paint job lol........
the new AIM-9X block are so advanced... holy shit. how advanced? well.
It has a lock-on after launch (LOAL), improvement in helmetless high off-boresight (HHOBS) performance with the F-22.
whats this mean? it means the missile can be pre-designated to a onboard autopilot to after firing the missile. so, a tactic that is being used now, is that because the F-22 and most US made missiles have anti-blue on blue systems built into their weapons, they wont target within a set proximity of a blue tagged unit or vehicle.
so?
so. the AIM-9X has already been programmed to loop a 360 backwards, then activate lock, on the enemy aircraft tailing your F-22.
Love the videos. Have you done Air Force One? My favorite part is when the F-15's take out the MIG's even though I know it's not realistic at all. Care to take a shot at it? Keep up the great work!
My biggest gripe with this is after tony tells rhodey it’s him, rhodey doesn’t immediately tell his guys to stand down.
HUD is from F-16 with extra fake ted triangle. And NAV mode means they are enroute, not engaging.
Not to mention flying .51 mach (just below 300kts CAS). Funny how radar altitude is missing, even know they are just 1.7k feet baro.
The gun sounds like AH-64 gun, not even close to M-61. Common mistake in movies when gatling guns sounds like single barrel. Most audio guys don't know the shit about it.
1:31 COMSAT rack have some gear from recording/mixing studio, you can see graphic equalizers and compressors.
Ruin the first Transformers Scorponok attack scene!!
he actually liked it
One word: BRRRRRRRTT
fingertip formation - so that we can have all the planes in one frame(2 in this case)
and its Hollywood :)
He was pulling up on the Man Seat Separation handle. It looked like it was jammed
aye aye airman
well, the whole cene was pretty unrealistic BUT
that thing can - at least supposedly - fly prettymuch straight into space
which means it being much faster than an SR-71 is prettymuch a given
though accelerating from Mach 1 to outrunning a missile in a few seconds would probably knock the human inside out even if it was possible
that's one thing they constantly overlook - even if you had some miraculous hightech suit, even if it's engines are infinitely powerful and it's material indestructable - you can't do anything about G-forces - well, not anything more than a G-suit already can
if you're pulling 50G's, for whatever reason it might be, no matter how indestructable the armor supposedly is the human inside won't survive it
Can you do Final Countdown? I'm not only interested in your breakdown of the flight scenes and S.O.P. accuracy, but I'm also interested in your professional opinion of how successful would the Nimitz be taking on the whole of the Japanese attack fleet.
You need to review Flightplan the movie...
Terrence Howard: "You owe me a plane"
Lemoine: "yeah Robert Downey could get that out of his coach cushion"🤣
The biggest thing is for me is would the military shot an unknown craft with out knowing what is or what is going on? IDK if they would of tried to communicate with it or not. Also the fact it engaged their enemy and was not being hostile towards them. IDK if that would also have made a difference.
Brilliant as always. When the beard coming off mover ?
Sadly it came off Monday for flood rescue operations with the sheriff's office :(
So sad! I liked it.
Wasn't he flying in an AEZ without IDing himself?
Not sure how such is actually handled but since he had a small radar signature they probably thought it was an unmanned drone which is something i'd excuse them to shoot down even without approaching first.
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“So to speak”😂
This might be a stupid question but in Mover's intro, what is he saying on the comms? 3-2-1 and?
Fights off?