Inside one of the largest sexual abuse scandals in US history: Scout Master |Fault Lines Documentary
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- In one of the largest sexual abuse scandals in the United States, over 80,000 allegations of sexual assault have been made against the Boy Scouts of America.
Families are still grappling with the impact, including in the small town of Lonoke, Arkansas where a local scout leader and prominent community member used his position to abuse boys for years.
In SCOUT MASTER, Fault Lines investigates the horrific impact this abuse has had on survivors, specifically Heath Stocks - a former scout who was convicted of murdering his father, mother, and sister.
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Investigate The Franklin child prostitution and abuse out of Nebraska. Appreciate this story on the Boy Scouts, how evil.
MK Ultra aka Mind control is real,also kown as Braiwashing by the CIA.
The emotional damage cannot be repair from being abused for years when you are 8 years old and afraid to tell another adult what happen in fear of being threaten by your Scout master. I get so sick to my stomach and try to block out the brutal pain of being ripped apart. Now that I'm in my sixties I still get nauseated. I take medicine to help with the stomach pain. There is no pain pill strong enough to take away all the years physical abuse the body can take, I have been on some of the strongest pain meds prescribed by doctors.
I have been to counseling for so many years, my parents thought I was about ready to have a mental break down. I have been in and out of psychiatric hospitals.
@@jpitt
I dont know your story. But I do see that you are still suffering very much so from something that nobody should ever have to go through. I'm very sorry you had to go through that. I do hope you find peace and healing
As part of a lawsuit, the BSA was ordered to release the records of abuse that were recorded nationwide.
The L.A. Times posted this database on their website for anyone to access.
I wonder if it's still there.
The use of Non-Disclosure Agreements to hide criminal acts must stop.
Absolutely, NDAs must not be valid when they protect criminal behaviour.
NDAs cannot be used to protect someone who has committed a crime.
Unfortunately things are more complicated in real life. NDAs are necessary especially in the context of monetary compensation for victims.
I was in the Boy Scouts in the late 80's and early 90's. So was my Dad. He joined as a Scoutmaster when I joined. He was there every meeting. Every camping trip. And every summer camp. Right by my side. That's what real parents do. Love you Dad.
Me, both my brothers and all my friends loved our years in Scouting. I went on to serve as a Camp Counselor for 63 days a summer for two years. Met thousands of kids. Never witnessed anything 'hinky.' Good men. Great kids. I owe Scouting a lot!
i was in Cub scouts in late 70s early 80s, then Webelos, then Boy Scouts , never made it to Eagle scout. I never heard anything bad and I had a great time!
Bear Paw was the Boy Scouts camp in Wisconsin
Have three cousins who are all Eagle Scouts...their dad was their a scout leader!
My mom told me a story about when my older brother was in the scouts. She said they were supposed to go on a camping trip for a couple days and my dad flipped out and refused to let my brother go.
That young man should be released from jail immediately with financial restitution and an apology.
What an amazing feat for Wade to have done - brought his abuser - Jack - in front of his parents at a gunpoint and made Jack own up to the abuse he's subjected him to for so many years ... that gave me goosebumps. I wish I could have done that to both of my abusers ... applause for Wade.
Me too
Yes this was amazing he did this, such bravery and so sad how his life ended 😭
I grew up Mormon, and the culture of grooming cheerful obedient humans has always felt consistently identical.
I don't know if people realise how very common this type of socially anachronistic programming is, whether for religious reasons or pedophilic reasons.
Or, as often as not, both.
This was one of the most heartbreaking stories I’ve ever seen. I cried my heart out for those boys. Fantastic job exposing this horrible man and organization.
And the boy Heath Stocks is still in jail 25y later.
Taking all the circumstances into account, I think he's more than paid his dues and should be released.
There's a great new podcast on this case called Life Without.
You can tell how much difference a father figure presence could have to a child. Kudos to Doug's dad for doing everything that he could to protect his son. To say I was shocked to hear about this story is an understatement. As a non-American, all I hear in the news is the abuse in the Catholic Church. Keep bringing these stories to light, Al-Jazeera. 👏🏼 Parents need to be more aware of these corrupt organisations.
Sexual abuse is rampant in all the churches, and not limited to the Catholic Church. 😪
Sadly it's a repeating pattern over millenia.
In all religion institution has a brain wash and abuse sexual or manipulation.. not just catholic
Institutions that have children from school to church, sports, to organizations so on will attract these people
The origination isn't corrupt..it's some of the volunteers.
This is simply terrible. Jack Wallace deserves a lot more punishment than what he got.
The lack of government ID is horrifying. I’m a hospital volunteer. We had government ID AND a background check. We aren’t allowed on site without it, not even to attend orientation.
Thank you Al Jazeera for your dedication to truth & integrity.
I wish everyone in America would watch this. One man destroyed so many men and their families. Heartbreaking
one organization destroyed the lives of over one million American children.
My parents abused me. They were very rich. When I thought I could do something about it. They tried to hurt me. The whole thing nearly killed me. Those poor lads. Very sad
I'm so sorry for your experiences. That's so hard to overcome. 😪💔🌿
I hope and pray that you are doing OK. ❤️
I'm so sorry. I was physically abused in the foster care system. I knew two grown people whose parents trafficked as children. They both led very sad lives, the woman eventually dying of a drug overdose. So 😞 sorry.
the rich whites are scariest people! you never heard about this happening in the hood do ya?
My mom abused tf outta me, my dad was terrified of her and let it happen. In many ways he took part in it, definitely joined in on the mental abuse part of a lot of it. I hate them both. Even after all that she called the cops on me telling them I threatened her life which isn't true. I had to do 2.5 months in county, all because she wanted to steal my stuff and turn my entire family against me. A picture of her remains on their wall (my dad's side). In a way I hate them all.
My stepbrother was abused by a boy scout troop leader. He was one of many victims of this fine, upstanding man.
He committed suicide in his 30s.
The sexual abuse he suffered was never dealt with properly, probably due to the shame and guilt associated with the years of abuse.
That's very sad to hear.
82k+ victims...impossible to fathom. And I cried when I heard about Wade...childhood trauma...unable to live with himself...
The settlement divided by the number of victims less lawyers fees is a pittance
That poor Heath never stood a chance in life. His father and Jack being solely responsible for moulding him into what he turned out to be. I believe he should be released - by some miracle he sounds like he is sane and accountable for what he did. And my heart broke for Wayde Knox
Agreed. Jack Walls killed those people. Heath never had a chance. I’m so sad for him.
I agree, they def should give him a retrial based on the information about Jack being there. He should at least be eligible for parole
My friend tried to convince me to get my son involved in scouting bc her son had just begun. I had heard rumours of s*xual abuse and thought there is no way I'd take that risk. This is incredible reporting. Thankyou for explaining how the abuse is enabled by the system of scouting.
I was always told as a mother of sons, never let your boys into scouts or be an alter boy.
what year did this happen?
Also please spend time with your kids. Listen to your kids. Show them love. Don't make them get the affection they need from other people.
Court TV covered this story and interviewed all the same people interviewed here over 20 years ago, and others who have since passed, like Doug's father and Heath's grandma. Thank you so much for keeping this story alive!
Amazing work. Thank you for staying on top of this important issue. It alarms me to know that stories of children being abused within the Boy Scouts are still happening today, yet we, as a society, have come to accept it as some sort of acceptable byproduct of this org. As a mom, I can't imagine why any parent would be willing to run this risk. Just say NO to Scouting!
Yes. Accept the reality that we have a sickness in our world. People seek out positions that gain them reasonable access to children for the purpose of sexual abuse.
also say NO to team sports, school and swimming in open water!
Don't say no to scouting. The Abus happened decades ago and now it is very safe. Background checks for adults, kids have to read abuse pamphlets, as well as parents. If there is an adult alone with a scout they will be removed. Always have 2 or more scouts with an adult. Adults can't take kids to the bathroom. Another scout will.
I am 44 and I have never heard of this story- This is one of the most horrifying things I have ever heard. I knew this was going to be bad, but this was beyond description. God bless those boys, men, and families. Just horrifying.
I surmise you have not experienced a catholic education or faced the injustice of being told take it for the team and remain quiet. Or thr guilt and shame that emanates from rejecting this councel. These types of faustian bargains are ubiquitous and destructive to the soul they claim to have an interest in saving.
Few and far between, not a common thing. I was in girl scouts, and nothing like this happened, at the time. Know that we do our best to find these abusers.
Adam Steed was abused in Idaho. His father was the push behind Idaho changing their laws so that SA does not have a 5 year statute of limitations in Idaho. The LDS church fired Adam's dad when he wouldn't shut up about it with the press. Sad.
Excuse me, but survivors of abuse are not ones who have entered into “Faustian bargains” - what a gross misuse of that term; perhaps the worst I’ve ever seen. Yikes.
@@michelebriere9569 Oh, Michele, you may need to tell yourself this but it is well-known how pervasive CSA is, especially in religious institutions, and really anywhere where people with this proclivity have access to groups of vulnerable children.
A “married couple” in Arkansas said that they were going to begin a Girl Scout chapter, but had “no” children. First flag. The 2nd flag and last flag, came about when I over heard the husband say to another father that he could come along on the camp outs and they would drink. I stopped my daughter from signing up immediately.
Pedos can have kids too some of the number one relations of who ppl get sec trafficked by are by family
*Arkansas is perhaps the best state of the Confederacy.*
Obviously and unfortunately, his father didn't love him. How could a parent love their child and beat them like that is beyond me.
I was a scout my entire childhood up until I made Eagle Scout. I can definitely say that from my perspective looking back, I had genuine scout masters and leaders who took an active role in sifting through the good and the bad. One minor rumor or impropriety and you were gone. That went for all. I consider myself lucky in this regard. I do know that the “perversion files” had documents on leaders and scoutmasters in troops in our council. I often worry about my friends who were in sister troops who may have been subjected to such cruelty. In retrospect I feel bad for the volunteers who took the opportunity to invest in us, it brought a lot of good out of so many young boys. But knowing now what I know, I cannot say that I support them as an institution going forward. It’s really sad and it’s abhorrent that the BSA DID NOTHING to save these kids.
Me, both my brothers and many friends enjoyed our Scouting years. I served on Camp Staff for 63 days a Summer for two years. Nothing but the best people and GREAT memories!
@@gsracer8 it's really good to know that so many people had positive experiences in the boy scouts movement and that it has not been all bad. ❤️
The BSA are not policemen
@kylesussin5332 It is absurd to throw out the baby with the bath water. I have a feeling some of this is "me too" mentality and these "victims" would not feel so bad if they didn't think they were expected to feel so bad. I guess a lot of people do not realize that boys will be boys.
It breaks my heart, you have families with only good as their intent... trying to provide a world of support, I'm sorry to all my brothers who have gone through such evil... I'm also sorry to your beloved parents, they were only trying to create a better life for their boys ❤
That one kid that said his dad slapped him around, what a horrible father. Telling him to do what the other guy says in order for him to be molded into a boy his dad can be proud of? This is the problem a father that can't raise a son himself is it going to have it done for him and maybe not in a way that helps the kid.
I'm glad these discoveries came to light just like in the church, but they are ignored and swept under the rug just the same. People just can't believe other adults could be that abusive but you better
Whomever edited this segment should win an Emmy. Masterful.
The Aunt is wonderful to still be there for her nephew. What a horrible case.
50 boys of a small town of 4000 is 1.1% of the population.
This evil individual abused a 1.1% of an entire community
It's 1.25%
This is heart breaking, listening to Heath at the end, those boys lives and futures were destroyed from such an early age. Wade Knox story is just as horrific and so sad. When his mother said he asked her did you know and allow it. A little boy thinking his parents were ok cuz the predator said they knew, just devastating beyond words. To all the Boy Scouts who were abused I wish each of you guys happiness and peace. 82,000 cases, Boy Scouts need to take more responsibility than paying out.
@t.s.6330 At least they have a good excuse, or at least one that is considered to be a good excuse, for failure.
Prudishness has caused more harm than unwanted or embarrassing affection. Violence and murder in uniform is perfectly acceptable but not expression of positive emotion. All those alleged victims needed to do was YELL. So why didn't they?
@@vernonfrance2974 Your comment displays an astonishing lack of empathy for and understanding of this problem.
Did you even watch the entire story? The answer to your question is plainly obvious.
What happened to those boys and every other victim of sexual abuse that has ever been over looked or swept under the rug by a larger institution is extremely unfair😔
Look into the Franklin cover up scandal about child prostitution and Washington D.C..
What sad, heartbreaking stories. So much pain and suffering that cannot be healed!
So anyone has 72 hours to do what ever they like & then walk away! WTF! I really feel for Heath. Why did his dad hate him so much. Literally pushed him into Jacks arms 😡
So many lives destroyed by one man. I feel so deeply for his victims and their loved ones who were impacted by him.
What an incredible documentary. I've seen some stories about this subject, this documentary was well done and fascinating. My heart goes out to all the victims and survivors. How can adults stay quiet about this disturbing issue?
This is one of the most distressing matters I have heard. Shocking ...
I can't believe the HORRORS I'm hearing about the Boy Scouts. The longer I'm watching this documentary the more HORRIFIC it gets😢😢😢
My dad worked for the BSA and I have never been so glad he doesn’t anymore. Shameful organization who wishes to sweep anything and everything under the rug.
I got involved with the boy scouts through church in the 70's because my Parents divorced and my father wasn't around. My mother thought it'd be a good thing for me to learn guy things. Thank God we didn't have an abusive Leadership. I raised my son just South of Lonoke, Ar and considered letting him join the boy scouts but being me and my son hunted and fished so much along with riding four wheeler's, baseball and church activities he never had time. If I'd been a father of one of the boys who got violated or the Judge in his case that Wall's guy would've died by his own guidance, if you can't fix it, you kill it.
Thank you for this dark history. We need to hear it and not tuirn away.
Excellent documentary on a horrific subject.
This is such an important story. They should be playing this for children in school. Thank you.
Truly and utterly heartbreaking for these precious innocent children. Wade’s mum is a strong woman. Heath deserves to be free and given a second chance to live a good life.
Amazing documentary thank you!!
Thanks for watching.
Wow. Intense and absolutely heartbreaking.
Superb documentary
OMG how did this happen...why? These poor, poor, kids!!!
Thank you for showing this. As long as I live i will always advise against the scouts to any person i meet. This organisation is a threat to children.
I understand your opinion, I also think I won't put my children in the scouts, but I don't agree with generalizing it. The sense I get from this insight into rural american pysche is how "belonging" to an organisation gives you a sense of community, pride and orientation. Those are powerful tools for small rural folks.
The positives don’t outweigh the horror. 80,000 plus boys. I think BSA should be shut down all together. Despicable
How horrific, my heart goes out to wades mom especially. The insurmountable grief neverending I am so sorry for all the victims of which there are so many. 😢
So proud of the boy who told and of his dad for fostering a relationship where he felt he could. Later in the vid we hear the man recounting how his abusive dad told him "do what he says, be grateful, don't ask questions." WRONG attitude. These predators target abuse victims & those without strong father figures in the home and this is exactly why. Parents, take note. Preds often hide behind trusted institutions like churches, summer camps, Boy/Girl Scouts, youth sports leagues & child talent agencies/performing arts orgs (dance, theatre, music, gymnastics, etc). Many "teen wilderness therapy" retreats house predators too. Nearly all sex abusers are surrounded by enablers who imparted them with their entitled attitude.
Thank you for this information. It makes me sick but I want to know what’s going on. Great documentary.
Thanks for watching.
80,000 and that’s not counting the men who haven’t come forward (yet).
Always fantastic documentaries for you all ❤
Thanks for watching, dear Tom.
Considering what has been done to Heath and what he did to his family under those circumstances, I find him very rational, analytical and lucid about the acts and consequences of Jack Walls' abuses.
My sons were in the scouts and I NEVER let them be alone with any of them, even if it were only at the meetings. I was always there and participated in their activities. My heart hurts to see all of this and the BSA should be closed down. I am working with a few victims now as private clients and the trauma they are living with no amount of settlement can put a price tag on that.
They're supposed to have a buddy with them. And it's a rule that adults can't be alone with a kid. It's greta that you love your kid, and participate in scouting and make it better. But it shouldn't be closed down, because the Scouts BSA has already dealt with all of this. There are better rules now.
Imagine all the people that knew and did not nothing. Either participated or just did not want to do what is right by humanity.
Look up the Franklin scandal out of Omaha Nebraska.
Bro. Why did you make me look that up?
Just purchased the book. Waiting for delivery to read it. This is why I only trust people to do what is wrong.
They didn't expose it because of Jack's father's position, power and money. Anyone who tried was threatened and made miserable. Jack was a monster from an early age and everyone knew it. The "wealthy" families chose to sweep it under the rug, ignore it or keep living in their fantasy world. The first time I met Jack I was a child and I saw the monster in him clearly. My grandparents told me he was a sick person and stay away from him. They didn't have to tell me because I saw it. Just can't believe people are so blind to reality. Rose colored glasses harm not help.
I think this is one of the saddest, most heartbreaking abuse stories I have ever heard of. Pure evil.
Was wade sexually assaulted around the 3rd grade? So many ppl seem to think things were going so good for our kids. When in reality our kids are suffering in silence. Through fear and intimidation. Add a family member to the mix, a child is no longer safe even at home!
That poor kid with the abusive father. Can't even try to avoid it or his dad will beat him up and make him go anyway.
As teachers in schools we have to provide proof of no criminal record every year at the school where we work!!!
So do we here in New Zealand in any job involving caring for children.
I don't get it. If Jack wrote a note admitting what he did, how did he get out of it. Makes no sense.
My heart goes out to all the people hurt by that men🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I am also a survivor of sexual abuse by my scout leader. They should be shut down forever.
Thanks for making this, it's so sad for the victims and their families and friends what they went thru. Why are there people like Jack Wallace? It's just so hard to understand how they can be so depraved and lack empathy or decency. Jack was a POS rapist pedophile, a parasite abuser.
So sad, being a scout were some of the best days of my life. Sad to find out you are more or less lucky because you havent been hurt. Same as helping my pastor out for years. A lucky kid I was, I guess. Just leave those kids being kids, no words.
THE SCOUT ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISSOLVED. THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE A DANGER TO YOUNG BOYS. PARENTS ARE PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ABANDONMENT OF THEIR CHILDREN TO PREDATORS. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT OUR GOVERNMENTS ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE ABUSES BY TURNING A EYE TO THE CLUES OR FAILURES OF THESE PREDATOR ORGANIZATIONS.
My heart breaks for these boys.
this is an excellent documentary and a scary one - if our children are not safe even in such institutions... What a world! Thank you for your thorough and balanced research, Josh Rushing!
How do you keep your children safe from systems & monsters like this, a true horror story.
Outstanding documentary, thank you for sharing. Prayers to these young boys/men in overcoming this. I hope other agencies dealing with children and volunteering should have tighter requirements in place.
Thanks for posting
Thanks for watching, dear Jonathan.
Heath is my cousin If you knew what he went through as a child you could understand
Exactly. ❤️
He deserves freedom.
His father was evil 😈, and had a haunted look in his own eyes, with a simmering anger there.
Poor Heath lived in a hellish environment, and my heart breaks for him. 😪🌿🤦🏻♀️💔🙏🏽
I’m so sorry for your cousin. I truly suffered
He should be freed. He does not belong in jail. I wonder if the innocence project could help him?
I'm speechless. How could this happen? How?
Every day all day and night 💔
Easily. People are evil without Jesus. ❤️
@@GypsyGirl317But these were religious people (alluded to at the beginning of the video).
Excellent documentary highlighting the malevolence of sexual abuse. Watching this film, what shines out to me is toxic masculinity, an often maligned term. However, this boy that killed his family was a victim of this. All the men in his life abused him from his father to the detective that took his murders on face value and did not investigate his murders properly. My sympathy to all those boys is enormous and I hope that they find psychological mechanisms to put this mind control they experienced behind them. I hope this man whom killed his family can be let out of prison and live in peace. For the paedophile rapist, and Scouts of America I have nothing.
Al jazeera english news is the best news on the planet Earth.
It is the voice of the voiceless.
It is the presence of Humanity!
It is the presence of Justice!
It is the unity of the world!
We wouldn't her this on mainstream news in America.
@@SilentWeaponsQuietWars this was reported on extensively via mainstream news as early as 1999, and as recently as 2020 and 2021 when Mr. Stocks applied for a reduced sentence and the BSA filed for bankruptcy.
Oh my heart breaks for every child, every adult who has suffered this horror. 😢
I liked Heath's aunt until she spoke of how her brother, Joe Stocks, loved Heath so much. He had a very peculiar way of showing it: physical and emotional and verbal abuse!
This is horrific
So wrong on so many levels.
WOW TRAGIC all the way around. Worth the watch!
I’m hearing an abuse story concerning Prince Andrew and two children in Ukraine. A boy and a girl, ten and twelve years old. Trying to find info from reputable sources.
It's happening today!!!
way too quiet, especially if you're essentially whispering into the mic
I thought it was my phone. Thanks for confirming that it was not . I could either watch, or listen. I couldn't do both at the same time
Subtitles my friend. Work very well
@@kdog4587Psst, most Americans don't like watching & reading subtitles.
It interrupts the rhythm of shoving junk food snacks into their cake-holes.
Excelent! Moving! Enfuriating! Just keep doing this kind of films!! Thanks a lot :-))
More to come! Thanks for watching.
Life without podcast on this case, so much was not included in this doc I guess as they can only fit so much in. Great doc but they could make a whole series on this.
I can’t believe the horror that child went through, while he was sexually abused “ your parent said it’s ok , and he continued abusing making the child to believe his parent gave permission to abuse him” after all that, I fail to understand, why now they are making schools place of pedophile , inviting these sexually mess up adults , save the childen the system is broken and rotten 😢😢😢😢
My son is very pretty and. He worked in a kitchen with a chef who made come one to him he told me I went around to this man and told him what would happen if he ever touched my son! End of story !
Simply heart breaking in every way.
I was part of local scout section in Europe. It was boys and girls together, scout leaders were often school teachers. The amount of grooming of young girls I saw was alarming. Scout leaders in their 20s and 30s hanging out with girls 13-14 years old only to come out as their boyfriends once they reached age of consent at 16. The first time I got male attention was during overnight camp out - I was 13, he was twenty something junior leader. He was hitting on me and I was both surprised and flattered, the fact I knew him as cool guy and a figure to look up to set the tone for this as positive in my teenage brain. Nothing happened (mostly because my parents were quite loudly overprotective and I was known to have them up my business at all times) and I was later grateful for my reputation of 'daddy's and mommy's little girl'. Parents of one of the girls from another scout section found out she was 'in a relationship' with a scout leader when she turned 18 and moved out to his place overnight. They tried to intervene as she was still at school and they knew he must have been grooming her since she was 14-15. Hard to prove since she was completely brainwashed and started fabricating police reports against her parents, accusing them of harassment and theft. The scout leader would not let her out of his sight, dropping her off at school and keeping close tabs on her. It lasted few years, she finally understood how toxic it was in her twenties. She went back to her parents but legally there was nothing to be done at this point, with no laws in place to charge him. He kept being a scout leader through all of it. Even when it came out he had moved in a teenager he was taking care of. I was a kid back then but all of the other scout leaders knew what was going on.
Great Docu!,its all about the childhood..thanks for sharing
Very good doco. My heart breaks for these boys, men and their families. There needs to be a legal remedy so that the leaders/administrators of Boy Scouts can be held personally liable. 82,000 plus people receiving a settlement. I understand they will receive about $6000 U.S each! That won't even put a dent in the cost of therapy. Plus I have heard elsewhere that Boy Scouts spent a fortune trying to limit the amount of the payout. Unconscionable.
Such a pity to see that scouts in America is such an awful organisation in letting such abuses take place. It really lets down the whole international scouting community, especially since Boy Scouts is the first thing that many think of when you tell them you do scouts, even in other countries. I have been a part of Scouts Australia for over 12 years and while similar allegations have been made here as well, the cases are so limited and hasn’t taken place (as far as I am aware) in over 10 years. Scout’s Australia is such an amazing organisation and I’ve learned so much while becoming the best version of myself. I really hope that scouts America can prevent such incidents from happening again and slandering the great name of scouts as a whole
i hope you realize perverted adults working with children so that they can groom and abuse them is a universal thing
It's definitely not limited to America, believe me.
America does NOT have the global monopoly on abuse issues, in the scouts movement and in other areas of society.
These things are rampant globally, including in Australia. 🤷🏻♀️
Why isn’t heath starks got paroled after this many years in prison it’s time to let him out
I believe it was because he pleaded guilty
Was joined with scouts for several months with my dad, I was six, first grade 1954. No problems. I was beaten on the playground school dozens of times under the principal's window at age seven at Drummond. I was in a stupor from this and the school decided I was retarded and should be put back two grades. Not long after entering the third grade at age eight in Three Forks, the principal put his older son up to killing me on the school ground, which he very nearly did. He was angry because I'd peed on the floor from fear carried over from the year before. I had a severe head injury and was unconscious for over a month. Three Forks was out, but I got a few weeks in at the one room school house in Logan where there was a big globe. I said the American continents looked like they were once a part of Europe-Africa, and the teacher said that was stupid idea and nobody believed any such thing (they didn't back then). So, I lost nearly my first three grades. In the fifth, age ten, I was hit with a large book by a high school jock (Randy Weaver, not the Ruby Ridge Randy) with the intent to kill me. I woke up in a pool of blood but recovered. There were more attempts on my life before I left Drummond at age 12. I worked at Big Sky High in Missoula from 1998-2004 as a net tech (I was an MCSE with 25 years professional computer work at the time). The net administrator would plant porn on teacher computers during the night, then bring the other net techs in to see what he'd "discovered" and afterward start whispering campaigns about the "bad" teachers watching porn with their work computers. This was actually a means to dodge his nightly watching of kiddie porn on the upstairs server. I knew this because of the trail of cookie files he left on the server, some of which I made copies of to show the police later since I was unable to discuss this with building administrators. He would sign in as various teachers, usually the girls' PE teacher Marti Leibenguth to watch "barely legal teen lesibian" porn, this while his daughter was in attendance. His protege and leader of the other net tech staff ceaselessly bragged about his porn and how it was specially "developed" for use in public schools, maybe like the middle school he was assigned to. It wasn't just porn of course, it was also sabotage and vandalizing of computers at night. This went on for five years until I couldn't bear it anymore. My complaints to OPI, the police, etc were never answered. My last post about this was deleted for violating community standards. I attended 22 different K12 public schools as a kid, graduated with top marks with a masters in soils-chemistry from MSU Bozeman, so I know what I'm talking about.
It should be against the law to require "non-disclosure agreements" to force people into silence about crimes.
Horrible and sad. I have compassion for the young man. I was a brownie, and Girl Scout and I was 8 and I remember things by the dads when we went camping. There were no moms. I’m 64 now. I have had a serious eating disorder most of my life. I think things are worse now. Doctors, judges, lawyers, pastors are getting away with it now. But there is judgement day coming. Reading my Bible is the most comforting thing.
We only had women in our Girl Scouts….and religion was a scourge in the Boy Scouts
judgement day is coming, the only satisfying thought. bless you.
I'm so sorry for your experiences too. God bless you, and yes, many will face their sins on judgement day and there will no longer be anywhere that they can hide. ❤️ 🙏🏽 😊 🌿 🙆🏻♀️
Apparently, the thought of "judgment day" gives a lot of people comfort. Alas, were it so.
Check out Derek Prince
The real "goomers"...
There should be a Child Safety Program in ALL organizations involving children including churches to bring awareness to children. Semi-Annual Safety Meetings should include the Organization Leadership, Parents and the Safety Program leaders. Also make schools aware of the Organization and the Child Safety Program so that if anyone ever touches a child in a sexual manner or the child thinks someone has made suggestive physically or verbal sexual advances on them that no matter what the child should tell their friends, other organization leaders, their Parents and their School teachers. There should also be a limit of 2-3 adults at any and all activities and Parents can be involved at any time. All adults involved in Leadership should have background checks. There should also be very harsh judicial sentences for anyone proven to have committed such a criminal act on a child.
Why is Heath still in prison? If ever there were a case where someone is not themselves during a homicide, he is it. Jack has the life sentence he deserves. Heath has the life sentence he doesn't.
And people in boy scouts or girl scouts don't. Outrageous!
This was a well known problem with the scouts for decades. If 80,000 came forward than at least that many don't want to. This is unfortunate for those who do a good job and a program that has so much to offer kids. Any program for kids, scouting or otherwise should be alert to this and provide effective safeguards.
It is not only in the United States, but it also occurs in many countries all over the world regarding sexual abuse, predation, and exploitation of the members of the Boy Scout organization who are yet minors, in which they are indeed very vulnerable and thus unable to defend themselves.
Shocking , how one person can wreak so much pain too so many people . Hopefully his time in prison is far from comfortable and the tables are turned ☔️
2.46 billion among 82,500 victims comes to a little under 30 grand each. That's basically nothing for what these men and boys endured. That's effed up.