WARNING: DO NOT TRY THIS! Lead Makeup from the 1800’s
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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Director : Arthur Woo
Producer: Pearls Daily, Erin Parsons
Featuring: Pearls Daily as Maria Gunning
Alicia Schult of LBCC Historical Apothecary
Javon Ford, Cosmetic Chemist
Lucy Jane Santos, Historian & Author
Laura Fitzachary, Historian
Professor Fiona Mcneill, Lead Expert, McMaster University
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You should do a series on geisha makeup; they even used nightingale feces as makeup cleanser. I think an episode on Japanese or Asian makeup history would be so cool and it's relatively less talked about!
That would be fascinating!
HUGE agree
Great suggestion!
I'm sure she is already planning on it
That would be cool
When archaeologists talk about people not needing a degree to be an expert in their field, this is the kind of work they’re talking about. So grateful that you’ve been able to dive in to the curiosities you have, and that you have an audience like us, so interested in the same things. Thank you.
I saw this video and clicked in 0.5 seconds! Been waiting for it for months! We need to campaign for Netflix or Prime to give you your own show to do historical research on makeup and beauty! We’d all tune in!
Same… my gosh ❤
Wow i've been thinking the same.
I'd resubscribe to Netflix just for Erin!
If she wrote a book I would buy that so fast too!
Same
Hello! I'm a pipe organ builder and many of the instruments I tend to have lead pipes. Due to age and prolonged contact with the wooden pipe racks, these lead pipes will develop a white, powdery coating that we call "lead sugar." I always thought it was called that because it was white like sugar, but had no idea it had a sweet taste too (I've never been brave enough to lick a pipe lol). Thank you for this very educational and fascinating video!
Probably a strange question, but does being around lead pipes affect your health at all? Have you noticed any differences? How often do the things you’re working with have lead pipes?
This is such a cool fact; thank you for sharing!
the way i would intrusively lick the pipes every single time-
I think a big problem with old paint in houses had to do with kids eating flake paint chips. If it tasted sweet it would make sense why they would eat it (and thus got lead poisoning).
Is it enough powder that could be collected??
It needs to be seen in candlelight! I have a feeling it looked very different indoors at night. Probably diffused like crazy in low light / glimmer.
So we did actually try it in candlelight but i decided to drop the scene from the video. We actually could not see any difference at all, other than one was shinier, greasier just as you see when I try on my hand. My only conclusion is that lead would lighten/whiten but it was undetectable on the skin. It didn’t look at all like makeup. Because it had the skincare benefits may be in part why they used it. I’m not sure if we’ll ever know. Will pin 📌your comment to update that we tried in candlelight - ps I saw Lisa Eldridge did this but as it wasn’t spread on skin you could see it brighter than the non toxic product. The thing is once it’s fully blended on skin it made no difference. I really hoped we would see a discernible difference. Also chatted with Lisa about it as I initially wanted to share her scene and then show on my hand. Since we didn’t see a difference we felt it wasn’t important to keep. 😊
Amazing! Thank you for this response!@@erinparsonsmakeup
I love your vids! I want to address similar lighting to candlelight. Circa the 1820s fire screens were used to protect wax makeup from melting while a person wearing it was sitting near a fireplace. Also during this time gambling was popular, particularly card games such as whist and bouillotte. Although single candles were in use, so were overhead crystal chandeliers, lamps that reflected light into the room from mirrors, and Bouillotte lamps - three candles under a painted brass shade. The candlelight would be directed out the bottom as it reflected off the interior brass of the shade. Illustrations of the day show women at card tables near all these light sources and also wearing red or pink blush and lipstick. Maybe the waxy makeup was applied heavier and the reds and pinks enhanced the white? How would the makeup look next to a fire? Near a pier mirror reflecting candlelight? At table next to a Bouilotte lamp? Would the brass create a bronzed look?
@@DonatellaSoulSPI🌸 that’s fascinating, thank you for sharing 😊
Women supposedly wore the "lead paint" but also POWDERED the heck out of it with what was basically chalk and that looked cakey but you're right, it was definitely a diffuser in low light.
I can’t help but to feel so sad for the women who were (and so often still are) shamed for simply having a beauty routine. Even though a lot of people are still weirdly judgmental over cosmetics and other beauty treatments, I’m glad to live during a time where there is such a huge variety of products and applications for this form of self expression. I just wish these ladies could’ve safely indulged in the fun of playing with makeup without potentially getting sick or having the fear of being publicly shamed for being “vain”.
I’m still in the middle of watching this video but I do hope there will be more to this series💄🖤
Maybe it’s the reason I’m sort of clown like with my own makeup. I feel so free to share my self expression through this art. It definitely makes me feel prettier knowing I’m serving a look 😅 so I totally get what you’re saying. People still makeup shame but it seems to becoming less these days I think
@@erinparsonsmakeup Lol I do exactly the same! I often do real clown makeup just to wear to work on a Tuesday because I not only love it, I think it’s important to show people that you can be as outrageous as you want with your self expression and nobody should have the power to scare you out of how you choose to express yourself. Looking forward to more of your videos🫶
makeup shaming is still alive and well especially in manosphere spaces
@@erinparsonsmakeup I used to love drawing , painting, sculpting and fine art when I was growing up; but Into adulthood I transitioned into wearing makeup . I absolutely consider makeup ''looks'' as an art form and daily source of self expression, and I love thinking of it that way.
Professional Makeup artists often have Photo books of their different ''looks'' and work ( which I love to look at)
But I also think there is something beautiful in considering daily makeup looks as a legitimate art from in itself and almost a form of performance art.
Thank you for such a wonderful video and sharing your beautiful art and skill with all of us :)
The reminder of why we force companies to have safety regulations is good, too. These people suffered from using products claimed to be "safe" and probably modern (at the time).
This is better than Netflix. How amazing that we can watch such creators like Erin do all this research and fully diving into the topic. Erin's channel is absolutely top notch. Thank you for doing this, Erin.
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Wow, thank you! I appreciate it so much 🤗!
Absolutely! I just wish she wouldn’t try the products on her skin! It makes me nervous for her!
It truly is. I’ve been saying this for years now- someone needs to give this woman her own Master Class
@@elliedaniel5900 the quality of her video production and everything she creates is among the best on UA-cam! ❤️🌹 She’s my favourite in this space that’s for sure!
I’m so wrong for this but could you provide a modern day dupe the lead foundation 😭😭 That luminosity without being shimmery is honestly stunning and I would love to recreate that effect without the whole dying thing
Maybe a bb cream!
they remind me a bit of korean "tone-up" creams I used to see a lot of. but I think they look more heavy and pasty than the lead tbh
The Mac luminous skin tint (I think) gives this type of effect! It’s gorgeous and has more of a luminous effect than a shimmery one.
I've heard a lot that the RMS Beauty luminizer is a gorgeous, non-shimmery product that can create this effect!
You could just use a mineral based sunscreen that leaves a white cast. It's literally the same effect as lead makeup
Erin seriously needs her own tv show. She’s so intelligent and her voice is one you could listen to all day and never get enough. I love learning about history through the eyes of women and their daily products/routines ❤️
You’re so sweet 😊I truly appreciate the kind words!
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I completely agree!
So true
I like the point made around weighting the odds of using a known toxic substance because this is a foundational principle of medicine - we understand chemo is essentially poison but we've figured out how to keep you alive and fight cancer.
the line between medicine and poison is all about dose and formulation
lead reminds me of tretinoin and how it "fixes" the skin
@@user-sg4ov7ng4h is tretinoin toxic?
Well for thousands of years that was the opposite of what we wanted. Then “modern medicine@ came in and wanted the entire table.
Yup, like botox
someone, please get this woman a docuseries on the BBC
I wish 😅
So do we! @@erinparsonsmakeup
I don’t see why not! 🤗
BBC could never!, She is an icon
BBC does not deserve her, please.
If you look for people dying for cosmetic reasons, it is heavily possible that Diane de Poitiers, Henri II's lover, died from "drinkable gold", believed to preserve youth. She was twenty years older than the king, and people didn't understand the passion the king had for her. She looked young for her age, and the rumor said she drank gold to stay pretty. 450 after her death, they dug her remains and found high levels of gold in her hair, indeed. I love your videos!
This is fascinating!
I’m always amazed that Erin is giving us these high quality docs for free on UA-cam!
Thankyou so much! I did dip into my own pockets to produce but feel the beauty history is worth every penny 😊 maybe I’ll do some easier videos on the next few 😅
@@erinparsonsmakeupwe love you, Erin. You're a treasure!
@@erinparsonsmakeupplease add ads to your videos. I'll watch them in full to help you!! You are a Queen 👑❣️!!!
@@erinparsonsmakeupit's fun when cosmetics nerds find their niche. You're living the dream for all us dabblers and we get taught. Win/win. 😊
@@erinparsonsmakeupI’d watch anything you make, modern make up tutorials would be super cool and cheaper to make. I loved the documentary, thank you for doing it!
The "Guaranteed harmless -- unlike our competitors's garbage product" bit reminded me of the marketing seen in old cigarette Ads. That's so interesting that they've been pulling the same tactic for noxious things since so long ago.
Would you ever do a video about the kind of makeup that the Vikings or the Aztecs used? Love your content by the way!
Oooh that would be soo interesting!
Yes I’d love to! 🤩 It may take awhile to get to but I plan to explore as many cultures as possible 😊
Yes please!
Yes!!!
Yes please
Netflix….. are you seeing this ?????!!!!!!!
This is what I wanna see when I pay for my subscription. Erin is awesome
This was a fascinating video! One thing you didn't mention, perhaps because your focus was on penetration through the skin - but using lead powder would most likely mean you'd end up inhaling some of the powder, and even if the lead on its own can't penetrate the skin, the thinner membranes of your respiratory system are a different story. Once the lead is in your lungs, it's not going anywhere (except further into your body).
You’re totally right. I thought to show experiments with the powder itself but it’s this risk factor that stopped me. I think probably easier to absorb by breathing than on the skin. Maybe there will be a part 3 😅
@@erinparsonsmakeup please be safe! We really appreciate you trying this make up already. So fascinating!
Anything you put on your skin enters your bloodstream within seconds.
Yes, please be careful with these lead products!
This is a bit off topic, but I am in love with your mannerisms when you speak. The gestures and movements you make with your head when you speak match the tone and rhythm of what you're saying, but more than that they add emphasis and drama! Most people don't think about their speech mannerisms, but for me it's actually fascinating.
Maybe it’s from all the old Hollywood films I watched 😅I am very auntie mame animated 😂 Thankyou for saying so!
Oh, Erin Parsons with the No No Skincare. You know it's good when there are disclaimers.
Kudos to Erin, she really puts in the effort. Her video editing is gorgeous, she contacted people who were actual experts, and she did some "experimental archaeology" makeup.
Just incredible work, thank you Erin!!!
Thankyou so much! It’s truly appreciated 🤗
No No Skincare teehee 😂
Make a video on the kinda make up wealthy Roman of ancient Rome time wore @@erinparsonsmakeup
Erin: “We’re going all in on our deep dive on historical lead makeup.”
Erin’s Peripheral Nervous System:
👁️ 👄 👁️
Seriously, Erin, thank you so much. As a history-obsessed individual, this is something that’s consumed me since childhood. I thought it would look more like high-zinc-sunscreen, but it’s SO BEAUTIFUL. I’m an extremely pale person just like you (I’ve had friends call me see through, or glow in the dark), and this is exactly the type of product that I’ve been looking for over the course of decades.
Bath and Body Works used to have a body lotion they alleged to have crushed pearl in it that I would wear on my face back in the early 00’s, but this is a thousand times more beautiful. No sparkles or chunky glitter, no heaviness, just luminosity and slight coverage. Glow-from-within and unclockable if applied mindfully. “Maybe she’s born with it,” indeed. If I’m being completely transparent, I would totally have worn this in the old days. 😅
Oh the names I got called when I was young 😅 I was almost pure white but with freckles on the nose 😝 I did link a primer that looked somewhat similar to the lead salve. But it is pricey so I’m wondering if Alicia is working on a safe version. When she does I’ll share it!
@@erinparsonsmakeup Oh, yes. Vampire was a favorite of my classmates. Corpse bride, too. 😂 Thank you so much for the link, and for the potential follow-up, if Alicia does end up being able to create a safe version!
This just reminded me of this weird off label bottle of lotion that I was given years ago. It claimed to be “shimmery” so in my mind, I figured it had something like mica or some other super fine shimmery substance.
Nope. It was a cheap, watery, sickly sweet vanilla scented lotion with literal plastic glitter chunks in it. 🥴
Absolutely hilarious looking back but I was _pissed_ in the moment.
I use a Shiseido sunscreen that has very thin liquidy texture and on me with full skin prep gives a similar blurring but luminous look
This was amazing! I have some 8th grade students write podcasts about makeup and makeup history and I have directed them to you as source material and they come back all excited and hyped BEYOND "WE LIKE MAKEUP WEE!" They come back fascinated by the science and psychology AND the ability to do a better wing line! :D
I would absolutely love to hear these podcasts! 🤩 we def need more beauty history exploration - maybe not with such reckless handling as me trying on though 😅 but it’s nice to know others are as interested as I am 😊
🌸 wow the subtle iridescent quality of the makeup is absolutely gorgeous
With the camphor it really lined any creases and created such an unblemished look
A sort of porcelain, youthful look
I can see why it’s addictive
I usually wear an iridescent under base before I wear my makeup and I kid you not, it’s such a similar look
But more subtle and full coverage from what I noticed between two hands, I couldn’t see veins or green tones etc
It’s remarkably effective and such a beautiful effect, I love it
what under base do you use?
🌸 from a Brand called beauty glow, blossom colour. I use the one that looks like pearl
I will only put it on high cheek bone areas, my eyes, nose, basically anywhere I highlight
I also prep my face, so each night when I moisturise, I will use castor oil, few drops
The secondary effects, is your eyelashes will get extremely long and your skin will look amazing the next day
Then the makeup I use is Korean types, full coverage in 3 shades, I take tiny drop of each and will put it like an artist will shade my skin. I will use a Korean powder, very fine like mineral veil, or baking type powder. Except the ones I use have white pearl effect and I get pinky ones, so it’s subtle and I get that baby dolls face, it’s dewy if that makes sense 😊
🌸 I’m not sure if UA-cam will keep this comment but the brand I use has SPF and that’s why I love it
It is so difficult to blend sunscreen with makeup that I use makeup that already has it blended in
Etude house double lasting foundation, it’s my favourite 😊
This was such a cool project to be a part of, I’m incredibly proud of it! Kudos to all the hard work you put into it Erin. Congrats on a groundbreaking series! 🎉❤🙏🏼
Ladies and gentlemen, the most patient editor in the world 😅 Thankyou sooo much For all your hard work Seanna 👏
@@erinparsonsmakeup any time! Happy to be a part of it ❤
Erin this was absolutely marvellous. I'm an archaeologist and specialise in radioactive material culture so if you ever decide to make anything on the history of radioactive skincare and cosmetics, hit me up! Thoradia, for that eternal glow...
Omg I hope she sees this!!
BOOST!!!
I don't have TikTok, but I've seen Mr. Ford on UA-cam and simply ADORE how knowledgeable he is and how simple his explanations are so that even someone like me can not only understand, but retain the helpful info he shares. (The ladies from LipstickLesbians also do this if anyone is interested!)
Is Mr Ford his channel name or is he a co-host/guest on other channels?
When I saw him, he was a guest, I think it was InsiderBeauty, but I'm not 100% on that (I said Mr. Ford bc I didn't want to misspell his first name 😅).
@@r-e_miihis name is Javon Ford! He's a very well spoken and knowledgeable cosmetic chemist, you can find him at @javonford16 (if he doesn't show up, search his name and look at UA-cam shorts)
We’ve done some fun TikTok’s together actually! He made me a 1930’s lipstick based on one of my old recipe books 😊
No beauty youtuber is on this level. Wow. I actually learn something with every video.
Boring influencers
Lisa Eldridge is pretty close on this actually
AHH A FULL LENGTH VIDEO IM SO HAPPY!
Finally 😅 this one took me forever! So much research but I’m relieved to post and clear my brain, thinking of only lead for months lol!
Same!
As a historian who did poorly in science, this is so fascinating to me. If I had known THIS is what I could do with science I would have paid more attention in school. 😂
I can't deny it looks beautiful as made-up, despite more sheer than I imagined seems to hide imperfections and both have kind look matt and have a shine.
I did not share this but I did try it quickly on my face - it looked exactly as on my hand, whiter with a luminosity but no coverage at all. Somewhat toned down redness. Once we know more from professor McNeil maybe we can explore a part 3 😛
@@erinparsonsmakeup Id love to see that footage, maybe after the full series is out we can get some deleted scene bonus footage ?
@@erinparsonsmakeup You are brave indeed! How does it feel on the skin? Does it sting, feel cold or anything?
This needs to be shown to anyone thinking about doing a Queen Elizabeth 1st movie, show, etc. So they can stop perpetuating inaccuracies. Sure we will never know exactly what was going on back then but we know some things that need to never be shown again
This series has such similar vibes to the BBC Lucy Worsley tv shows, whoever makes that show would be the perfect team to work with to make this into a tv series !
Omg I’ve never seen these. I’m going to look up right now 😊 I think Lisa Eldridge did an incredible series with the bbc on makeup. I think it was Covid that only allowed it to be 3 episodes. We did chat about teaming up for aomething 😊
@@erinparsonsmakeup Lucy Worsley does a wide array of historical videos for the BBC that are great! Also, Amber Butchardt, a fashion historian, has done a series I highly recommend called A Stitch in Time (BBC) that is both fascinating and at times heartbreaking. She also did a series for English Heritage on historical hair and makeup you might like. Both can be found on UA-cam. And yes, Lisa Eldridge's series was great as well!
The BBC seems to support this kind of programming moreso than the States. I've seen so many cool series on fashion/history, music, subcultures, and art from the UK. Seems like a good place for her to pitch a show!
@@erinparsonsmakeup I think you’d like her show, if you aren’t that into British royal history then I think at least you’ll enjoy the investigative documentary editing style inspo and the cute outfits lol . That would be amazing ! I hope you get to collab !
@@Diamond_Skies yeah and BBC shows like the Lucy Worsley ones are also often aired on PBS (a free over the air tv channel focused on educational content) in the states so it’s much more accessible than any streaming services that are locked behind a paywall .
Damn lead is just the holy grain highlight/primer shade for light skin tones isn’t it?? Legit that pearlescent blurring and luminous effect it gives is so stunning. I’m bummed it’s toxic and now obsessed with finding an exact dupe 😂 Thanks for doing this for SCIENCE 💜💜💜
I CANNOT get enough of your videos! My boyfriend is a huge history fan and he enjoys your videos too. You have revived my biggest interests and have added a ton of fun and personality to beauty standards. I’d love to see more of these videos about more functional makeup and skincare from the past and maybe the history of current trends.
Great idea! I may do some easy videos coming up. This lead one took so long to put together 😅 bur whatever I film it will most likely have some beauty history behind it because I have an obsession 😊
I can't believe we've been portraying Queen Elizabeth this way for so long. I can understand why she liked the colour and effect of the lead, it looks very pearlescent and luminous. I hope we can see more realistic portrayals of her makeup in the future. The way my jaw dropped at the white lead and vinegar though, how awful that people effectively poisoned themselves over time. And I can't believe they knew it was toxic and continued to use it! Thank you for the time and effort you put into such great content!!
In the 16th century, they did not know this. However, as Erin showed, there is *no evidence* that Elizabeth I did wear this as a "makeup". There is a reference to it being used like a medicine to help heal the pox pustules but when they were healed, may not have been continued. And as Erin showed, there is no evidence that Elizabeth had any symptoms associated with lead poisoning. Which if she had been using Lead and Vinegar all her life, she would have done. Elizabeth was sharp as a knife to her last hours. Which indicate no neurological symptoms as was described.
I wore calamine lotion as foundation in highschool lol I later became a makeup artist for a decade and now a nurse. I love your channel !
okay but why do I love that lead look? like it looks so diffused and in soft focus 😟
Got another one
Your content is so amazing! I heard that the makeup used by kabuki actors actually had lead up until the 20th century, and it was a true white paint. Many well-known actors had their careers cut short by some of the symptoms of lead poisoning. It probably had other pigments too, but this might be another avenue for investigating how lead might have been able to create a more cakey texture.
Geisha also used very white paint, but I don't know if it contained any lead. They wanted that high opacity white paint color, it wasn't supposed to look like normal pale skin but far whiter.
@@Call-me-AlI remember watching a video on the Vogue Japan UA-cam channel of a traditional Japanese dancer doing a get ready with me. The makeup that is used these days is still manufactured by Shiseido and it looked like it was something water based. I’m just kinda amazed that she could get that level of coverage with a water based face paint and it did not crack or crumble at all. It just stayed smooth the whole time even after she was done preforming
I want so badly to go to Japan and explore this further 😮 the first white lead makeup ever found comes from China which certainly would have then lead to Japan. I think, and I will have to try this, that if you mix water with the powder perhaps it could give more coverage. The thing is the lead flake itself is not water soluble so I imagine it would be very streaky. However if you were acting on stage in the theatre you wouldn’t mind as people would not be so close up. The total white out effect probably would be more important. Anyway it’s all theories but I truly hope I can find out and film it all one day soon!😊
@@erinparsonsmakeupI can't wait to watch this when you do!
I have a special interest in Tudor/Elizabethan history, clothing, hair and makeup, so when I saw the first part of this video, I clicked SO fast, and once I saw this upload, I clicked equally as fast and liked before I even started watching.
I have always thought that Elizabeth I's makeup use was skewed by male historians in the past, as men often vilified much of what women partook in and labeled it as sin and vanity. Since, lets face it, men were most often cataloguing history throughout time since it was seen as men's work in most cases, and therefore a lot of things can be seen to be skewed from a man's perspective and opinions on whatever matters they deemed necessary to comment on. I do not think that Elizabeth would have lived as long as she did had used lead based makeup as frequently and vigorously as some historians of the past have suggested. And since modern historians often look to past historians for references, some don't question the past historians that they are referencing.
So I am truly glad that you have taken the initiative to test these recipes, compare them to one another, and use scientific means to gauge the effects on the skin and human body that these would have caused. It is truly fascinating, and gives really good insight into how history can often be misread by the more modern world.
Also, the assumption that her body burst in her coffin due to the buildup of noxious vapors in her body from her makeup never held any weight with me. It was also rumored that her Father Henry VIII burst in his coffin, but since she was a woman, it MUST have been due to her own vanity (sarcasm), and not... I dunno... that fact that decomposing bodies, both human and animal, build up with gasses that are naturally produced by the body during the decomposition process. That is why it is so dangerous to go near a whale's corpse, since they can explode without warning and turn into a deadly projectile in themselves, and are usually cut open before that in order to prevent such an occurrence.
Thank you! So fascinating. I always assumed she inherited the pox with the country from her father too...
I've been studying and re-enacting Tudor/Elizabethan life for 30 years now. I've gone through the Royal Accounts for Elizabeth for her wardrobe etc including "makeup" and there is just nothing. The few references are always after her death or by people who were very late in her reign. For example, one description of her around 1600 mentions her rotted black teeth - except this person never saw her. We have ONE reference of her needing a tooth removed (many people now do) and she was worried about getting it removed (understandably at the time) and apparently (we don't know whether this is absolutely true) one of her male courtiers, had one of his teeth (a healthy one) removed and that helped her have hers removed.
The reference to a body bursting in the coffin is about Henry VIII - and due to his health issues and sheer size these does seem like it is true. I have not heard this about Elizabeth in all the years I've been studying her.
I have portrayed Elizabeth at an event in Saffron Walden in 2022 which was lovely to do. Made my gown for the event and even had a small front wiglet created (I had a headdress at the back so no need for a full wig) as my own hair is blonde and she was red...and I didn't have time to dress my hair as I usually do. Eventually will get a page up on my new website about it (www.myladyswardrobe.com)
@@myladyswardrobe YESSS!!! THANK YOU!!! I find it very frustrating that people still to this day say that Elizabeth burst in her coffin. There are SO MANY "history" channels here on UA-cam saying the same thing over and over. And even if she DID, so what? If she did it would be from natural phenomena, NOT because of her makeup. Which, was less likely to happen anyways since they removed the majority of internal organs in those days and put them in separate containers for preservation. I feel as if she has been wrongly documented by "historians" throughout time, and those false documentations have trickled into today's time. There are many wrong historical perspectives that people don't challenge to this day simple because earlier historians said so.
I have been making historically accurate Tudor court dresses this year (1530's, as my 14x great grandfather was Sir Henry Norreys, who was executed during the Anne Boleyn trials), and plan on making Elizibethan ones next, so that's so cool to me!!!
@@beatdizzy smallpox is not inherited. You may be thinking of syphilis. If the parent (mother) has it, then the child can be born with it. In this case, there is no evidence Henry VIII had syphilis. We can be confident this was the case from the medical records we have. the main "treatment" for syphilis in the 16th cehtury was mercury (which had its own issues). Henry was never "prescribed" this.
Also, Henry did not seem to have many in the way of mistresses. We only know of two - Bessie Blount in the 1510s and Mary Boleyn, Anne Boleyn's sister in the early 1520s. Both before he had any relationship with Anne Boleyn and certainly 10 years before Elizabeth was born,.
Also, if a child is born with syphilis they are not going to live very long - certainly not nearly 70 years as Elizabeth did and certainly not without obvious health issues such as cognitive delay and development, skeletomuscular complications, neurological issues - likely severe learning difficulties - which one could never describe Elizabeth as having. And that is assuming any child with congenital syphilis survived the birth. Often, if its contracted in utero, it often results in still born or death soon after birth.
So, no, Elizabeth did not have syphilis, and neither did Henry VIII and more importantly, neither did Anne Boleyn - as the only way Elizabeth could have got it is if Anne had been infected.
@@Jarvis_Mari I've just discovered that the website for Greenwich Palace which was the site where Elizabeth was born, has a whole load of wrong information particularly about the so called "makeup". Ho hum.
I'm constantly trying to stop myths about our ancestors...eg they never washed themselves, they didn't clean their teeth, they were really really short, homes were messy, hated their children, etc etc .
I've made so many gowns over the years. I have a 1535 gown (basing it closely on but not absolutely identical to, the Queen Jane Seymour painting) for this August. Currently this weekend on a Dior style 1950s dress! I have a form on my website if you wanted to connect with me. Please feel free. Happy sewing,.
An Erin Parsons x Christine McConell collab would be ICONIC, especially for Halloween!!
I’ve seen her name a few times in the comments but I don’t know who she is. Gonna search her out now and follow 😃
Now this would be a true dynamic duo.
My goddddddd this needs to happen🥹😭🥳
Christine has done makeup videos before in the past. They need to get together.
19:35 I was totally going to say it looks like zinc! I use diaper rash cream on my face, and I get this beautiful semi-white cast that just blurs all of my imperfections and acne while calming inflamation. I wonder if mixing the cream with just a smidgeon of highlighter would give a similar iridescent glow? I want to test this out 😂
This is epic -- knowledgeable professionals together in 1 video!
Thankyou so much! 🤗!
OMG ERIN I LOVE YOU. I’m a chemist who has a special interest in cosmetics & I’m *living* for this content. I’m so glad I found your channel!! I’d love to see or even do more research on how the lead affects the skin, especially having our own oils mix in w the lead while it’s on the skin, possibly creating a similar effect to the Lairds Beauty oil, since the sample skin wasn’t producing oils like a human would
🖤Gosh, we MISSED you Erin!🖤
Sending Love from Toronto, Ontario!♥️🇨🇦♥️
This one took way too long 😅 I love Toronto by the way!
Erin be risking her health for the good of beauty science. What an absolute legend
Omg, that lightening glow is amazing. Waiting for a dupe
I tagged the closest thing I could find but probably could even mention a zinc sunscreen - although the lead product looked less greasy than sunscreens today. But certainly left a white case. I think it also lessened the redness 😊
Chanel’ Blanc de Blanc
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Erin: you need to have your work seen by the BBC, there is definitely an award winning series just waiting to be made by you.
BTW you look stunning as ever.
I love history! Thank you so much for giving us answers on historical makeup and the Queen. I never thought she would wear that cakey makeup. She would be more likely not letting anyone near her to look closeup of her skin if she was vain, then wear makeup like a clown. Being the queen people would not be able to get near her, but her personal attendant who helped her bath and dress. Everyone else would be expected to be a safe distance, to protect her.
I actually never thought about that 😮 there is one very clear first hand account from a German traveler who comments on her appearance. This is where we learn of “wrinkles and black teeth”. No where does he mention any cosmetic. I wish I would have included this tidbit in my first video. I also hope the films on her will stop ruining my viewing experience with awful makeup 😅
@@erinparsonsmakeup I agree. Her mouth must have hurt from teeth being rotten
@dolphinschild62 it seems like a lot of people were walking around in a significant amount of pain centuries ago. I think about that every so often, when I have a gripe of my own or come across someone else dealing with a malady. Some things would just have to be dealt with for ages until it healed, some afflictions could be treated but it takes a long time, and some problems would have to be lived with forever. I guess that's not really different today, but at least there's better palliative care now so people are in less pain.
We’re dying to be beautiful ☠️
@@erinparsonsmakeup That traveller never got close to Elizabeth. He saw her from a long distance away so there was no way he could have seen what she was really like. This was also in around 1601 when Elizabeth was near the end of her life.
There is also no evidence her teeth WERE all rotten. She was known to be very frugal and also didn't eat a huge amount (which explains her extremely slim figure) - so even though sugar was around then and sweetmeats (sweets made from marzipan and sugar etc) were popular with the elite, they were not a daily thing due to sheer expense in general and from Elizabeth's perspective, a waste if consumed on a daily basis.
We have a reference in around the 1570s ish, whereby she did need one tooth removed and was quite worried about it (understandably as no anaesthetic then) but was prompted to go ahead when one of her male courtiers had a healthy tooth removed to show how easy it was. (!!!!) Whether its true or not (what he did) that is the only reference. We also have the claims she was bald (hence the wigs!). When the Earl of Essex entered her bed chamber in 1602, he found her in a state of undress (as it was early morning). Her hair was white and loose around her shoulders....expected in an lady of 68.
At her death, its not clear what was going on. Royal Palace of Greenwich unfortunately, is still perpetuating the myths of blood poisoning through the makeup...which as you've just shown would not have been the symptoms of lead poisoning. What we do know was that she suddenly fell ill in the autumn of 1602 after deaths of close friends/cousins. Seems she went into a depression. She may have had some other illness too.
Maybe you should contact Greenwich and get them to set the record straight?
www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/little-known-or-unknown-facts-regarding-queen-elizabeth-death
I've been studying Elizabeth and 16th century history for the past 30 years and also re-creating living history as a Tudor or Elizabethan woman. I've also portrayed Elizabeth at an event. I get cross about the depiction of Elizabeth with clown white makeup. No evidence shows this was in the Royal Wardrobe accounts. We should look at the "medical records" and see whats in there too.
Its like the myth that Tudor people didn't wash themselves (they did), or clean their teeth (so many recipes for potions to clean the teeth) and were all teeny tiny.
THANKYOU for this amazing research to explode this myth. Brava. my website showcasing my costumes is www.myladyswardrobe.com
As someone who works in a hazardous pharmacy- I can’t believe you guys opened up that bottle of powdered lead without ventilated masks and goggles 😬😬 We follow more precautions for less toxic substances. Everyone in that room would be at risk….
I have been waiting for this video! Thank you for blessing my eyes with some long form content on this day Miss Parsons!
It’s possible many were just very fair skinned, or were possibly doing a form of skin bleaching (not sure if this is possible, but I could see them using products to help lighten the skin) and the lead makeup was already a very light white, putting a “sheer” white on someone who is already porcelain will make them look “washed out” or sickeningly pale. Add to the fact they’re porcelain, they were adding very harsh pink blush and sometimes bluer eyeshadows.
I recently listened to a mostly tudors themed podcast where they say Elizabeth probably didn’t spackle on the stark white lead face makeup. It’s nice to see the false narrative changing a bit.
i saw javon ford and started hooting and hollering like its the fucking superbowl. dream video lineup fr
Your dedication to makeup history and knowledge is top tier💗
I appreciate that Thankyou! 🤗
I haven't worn makeup in years, but I am a huge history nerd, so this is incredibly fascinating.
I love your channel, and I can't believe how fast it's grown.
You definitely deserve your own show.
I’m 19 and homeless right now with my mom but watching you talk about/ expirement with makeup and its history and Hollywood makes me feel so glamorous💕✨ I love you and your videos so much!
Queen Liz the First mainly had bad teeth because the adored sweetmeats and anything sugary. This is well known about Her. Like you said, there's no way she could have lived that long had she been severely poisoned.
16:20 is when she actually tries it
16:30 Welp, if I had a primer that gave me such a texture in those years, I'm sure I would use it. Scientific knowledge? Nahh paste it on my face! The texture looks lovely! And Erin's hands are super cute. I'm so proud of Erin for her outstanding work, investigation and effort. A brilliant production. I was waiting patiently for the next part and as soon as I could have the time to see it uninterrupted, I enjoyed it.
Erin doesn't follow trends in content, she creates trends, you're way ahead from the norm, dear.
I love that it looks like a professional documental instead of a regular youtube video. Definetely worth the waiting
Be careful when you buy shein or temu beauty products.. check all the ingredients please a lot of them have prop 65 warnings here, I live in California and see these labels. I learn so much from your channel and love every bit, I am into history and makeup, this is perfect. Thank you Erin for doing something that can harm you for science.. ❤
But the labels don’t even mean anything half of the time. They don’t test every single product and just throw a label on. It’s not accurate. Also all food like fruits and vegetables have lead in from the ground unfortunately. Certain foods have more lead than others do. There’s no way to avoid it since we’ve used it so much in the past in multiple things.
Starbucks has to have a prop 65 label in CA ..
Lead acetate (sugar of lead) indeed seems to have been used as a sweetener, but only by unscrupulous medieval wine merchants, who would then be promptly punished by the authorities for falsifying their ware. It was because medieval drinkers preferred sweet and heavily alcoholic wines, but it proved nearly impossible to produce this quality naturally in rainy years, when there was less sunshine.
OMG I LOVE Alicia!!! Her company is so amazing and any time you have any questions or requests she is so prompt and sweet in helping!! Highly highly recommend her shop!!
It looks beautiful, it has an incredible smoothing and blurring effect, and it looks radiant/ dewy/ glowy, very on trend; this was fascinating, you did an incredible job with the research and info
Thank you so much!! 😊
Lead was used in house paint because it kept the wood dry. Red iron oxide paint is used on barns for the same reason. White flake oil paint is also lead-based, so don’t buy any cool looking old flake white paints!
That blue hair is gorgeous, wow!!
I need to post the short where I dyed it. It’s always back to dark now 😅
I *LITERALLY* clicked on this video the moment I saw it. Rest of my feed hadn't even appeared yet lol. It's not even that I love make-up, I just love listening to experts talking about their subject matter. Erin is THE subject matter expert when it comes to makeup. The depth of her knowledge can only be matched by the heights of her passion for makeup which in turn can make Everest to look like a molehill in comparison. Her hardwork & intensive knowledge coupled with her eloquent articulation with smooth & impeccable pronounciation make her a delightful treat to watch & listen to. I wish she uploaded more frequently!
I take my hat off to you for your dedication and thorough investigation and research. This was exciting and interesting to watch. Netflix needs to give you a series because GIIIRRRLLL this is a refreshing topic that I don’t think anyone has touched on.
so it seems that EVEN IF YOU WORE ONLY UNMIXED LEAD POWDER, IT WOULD STILL HAVE ABSORBED THROUGH THE SKIN because you produce oils which would have mixed with the powder and your skin has a natural acid mantle so It seems it would have recreated her experiment but with both oils and acids at the same time, it must have absorbed to varying degrees.
This is an incredible video. The audio quality. Video. Storytelling. Editing. On location filming, collaboration of creators. Quality. Everything!
Hey so I have a little question, The test was on pigskin right? The skin wasn’t warm as a living piece of human skin would be so maybe the warming of the skin would help the penetrating of the makeup?
Idk that was just a thought , that maybe the temperature that a human body would reach would cause it to go deeper?
I dont see that this was addressed but hypothetically, if she did wear this lead based product on her face, its actually very likely that the reason she would have been described as wearing a white paint on her face was because people who saw her with the product on had notbing else to visually compare it to. To them, seeing someone wearing a brightening, lightening luminous cream versus most other people they saw around them who may not have worn any makeup or skincare at all, might have been more visually jarring and the easiest way they could describe the look, especially where many lacked the education behind how the cosmetic worked, was that it was like a white paint on the face. I can see where one might want to use the cream to fill in fine lines and pores and make their skin appear brighter and smoother, but to common people during that time who didnt understand what they were looking at, i can also see where they could describe that as being a mask of white. We also have to consider that their way of speaking and explaining things was probably vastly different to today. Where, for example, today we interpret the phrase, "white paint on the face" to be quite literal, but back then literal phrases were used in a very casual, yet poetic sense. Then, they could have understood that to mean a thin coating of bright makeup.
But then when taking into consideration that some of the written descriptions of her were done with bitter intent, it could have been possible that these phrases were used to poke fun at her appearance, but the poetic exaggerations were describing a very real look that she had. The "face of white paint" could have been a descriptor coming from a place of lack of understanding of what they were looking at (if not many wore or had access to makeup and skincare at the time), a simple poetic turn of phrase that we today are drawing a literal meaning from, or it could have been a poetic exaggeration used to poke fun at her appearance and cater to an audience of like minded individuals that also disliked her at the time (kind of like a modern gossip or papparazzi).
All in all, im simply saying that we could be taking the "white paint" phrase far too literally and that was just their way of describing the affects of the product, especially when they had little to compare it to, in terms of other forms of makeup and skin care at the time. If people were walking around during that time with faces actually painted white, as a makeup look, im sure the description would have been something entirely different, because then there would have been a comparison.
But idk i could be completely wrong in this observation. Would love to hear your thoughts.
There’s also a lot of myths around Geisha’s white makeup, it would be interesting to see a video were you try to recreate the different recipes.
It looks quite beautiful - I wonder if there are any modern (non-toxic) products that would achieve a similar result?
It’s interesting to think about the developing understanding of substances in science and society, and how and when they start the process of going from being common place, to becoming a known toxic substance. eg. People see it as wild that people used to use products containing lead, yet we still use products today that contain things like Titanium Dioxide, which is becoming understood to also be toxic.
Omg it is 😮 woah I def need to explore this further. The only thing I can think of is maybe talc. It’s interesting clean cosmetic companies do not use talc at all. I’m curious to explore this further
TiO2 as a cosmetic is still proven safe (it's also the only PROVEN safe sunscreen filter for aquatic life - zinc actually harms it just as much as organic filters do), debatable as a food additive though.
@@erinparsonsmakeup Scientifically the fear around talc is bc of possibility of contamination with asbestos rather than talc itself. But in modern cosmetics due to refinement it's not an issue. However greenwashing has made it a whole thing.
The J&J case only just kicked in and they switched talc for cornstarch in 2023. I know it was ostensibly about the contamination, but if they eventually dropped talc altogether, it would be interesting to go through the court docs. Inc decoder says a Kiels SPF has titanium dioxide. Mac powder blush.
I was so nervous when Erin put it on her skin. I’m assuming theirs very little risk to a one off 5 minute application on your hand but still got nervous 😅
I remmember eating lipsticks of my aunts,mother and grandmother cause they're tasted sweetwhen i was a child..now i know why
This is so fascinating and exceptionally presented! Worth the wait between installments, because there's no way these could be made quickly and be this well executed without a tremendous amount of time and effort. Just wow!
thank you for this Erin. Queen Elizabeth has been one of my favorite historical figures and the mystery of the mask of youth has been a long strong interest and your video part 1 and 2 have been a dream come true. I will say If The queen did wear this ritualistically as they claimed it wasn't as dramatic has her enemy critics of the day described. I think now She may have used it medically as a way to dry out the scabs and maybe as a skin correcter. reason why i say that is because I noticed the pink in your hand vanished when you applied it. scars tend to be a pinkish color so I wonder if maybe it was for the purpose of a skin correcter medically and less as a cosmetic purpose as critics of the past tried to claim as a way to talk trash about the queen for lack of a better word.
I can't believe this content is available FOR FREE on the internet - thank you Erin ❤ you do amazing work!
is there gonna be more? maybe not about this but different topics of makeup and beauty from the 1800s ?
How crazy!!! I am absolutely loving this series. I also WILL NOT BE UPSET IN THE LEAST IF YOU NEVER PUT IT ON...PLZ. LOL. I really love your work and hope you stay as safe and healthy as possible :D
Oh yeah, flake white, I'm an artist and I use flake white as a mixing white because it doesn't overpower the color like Titanium white does. And yes, it's real flake white, but today the lead is safely encapsulated. If I knew that Queen Elizabeth and other people were using flake white I would know it wasn't a heavy white paint, literally.
You have facinating guests and you do amazing deep dives! LOVE your long form content!!!! Love from Scotland! I am hoping to come to NY if a museum is being made! xx
It’s definitely in the works 🥳 taking a lot longer than I would hope for 😅 but will happen eventually. I’d also love to know more about makeup in ancient Scotland so maybe I’ll come to your area one day!
@@erinparsonsmakeup It is so beautiful here! I live in Edinburgh which if full of ancient secrets and beauty! That would be amazing! xx
This is so fascinating! Particularly coming from an aesthetician background, the lead penetration levels makes so much sense. Your stratum corneum serves as a barrier layer for your skin, so it makes sense the acidic nature of vinegar would break this down and allow for the intracellular lead penetration. Thank you for such an indepth research!
Now I wonder what they did in the BBC documentary with Lisa Eldridge where the lead produced a wall paint-like colour.
So I chatted with Lisa about it. The thing is this 1831 recipe is the only known formulation with actual measurements. Any others you’d have to guess on how much of each ingredient to add. I asked professor McNeill if she experimented with others and she said yes all of them. She also said they all went on the same, very sheer like a primer consistency 😮
@@erinparsonsmakeup So there had to be some other pigment Eldridge used if all the lead compounds make that sheer a mixture. In the documentary it looked more like a vaseline or cold cream with titanium dioxide or some other harshly white pigment. I stand confused 😅
I wasn't expecting to see an Irish reference here! My dad's friend owns the former home of the Gunning sisters in Roscommon. A tragic beauty jndeed. Love your videos Erin, beautiful to watch and you learn something!
Why aren’t they wearing MASKS????????????
I immediately thought about this.
They said they have ventilation
It is so blurring that it literally makes your hand into a flat shape. It looses dimension.
This felt like something I could of been watching on BBC 4! Very interesting, to actually see what this lead makeup looked like on the skin was quite something as it is clearly so different from how media has portrayed it. Really wonderful video.
Answering all the questions I didn't know I had lol. I'm not surprised that the impression we have today is that they went around like Mimes: there's a prevalent bias against makeup, so reports of it in media would be exaggerated. Working class people would probably be very exposed to sun - dark, ruddy, freckled at least - and they probably saw the rich as pasty faced in comparison.
Your channel combines so much that I love!!! You can’t get any more amazing. Thank you to those who participated sharing their knowledge and skills in this video too. I am so crushing on the chemist, what a beautiful young man. Chemistry, history, antiques, oh my nerdy soul❤
As a chemist (analytical though) I ADORE Javon❤️
I need a non-toxic version of this immediately! It’s so lovely, sheer and luminous. 🥰
You need your own @netflix show 🎨🎭💋💄
This is fascinating !!
You've heavily inspired my decision on what I want to do in my future. I LOVE history, and I love makeup, I never knew I could do both. I already knew I wanted to do something with cosmetology but seeing your content just sort of inspired something in me! I love your content and learning more about vintage and historic cosmetology, I have some vintage perfumes and makeup in my room currently actually.
Were they, you know *limp wrist*, using lead?
Ive always been fascinated with Queen Elizabeths makeup. This is amazing ❤
a self-thought alchemyst???? can i be her apprenctice?? 😮
I've discovered your channel a week ago, and I've watched pretty much every video you've posted since. I love history, science, and all things fashion and beauty; so this channel is a perfect mix of the two.You have no idea how excited I am for part two of the lead series! Watching your channel has also given me inspiration for my own make-up looks, hair styles, and even outfits. So thank you, Erin, for sharing these vintage beauty hacks, beauty history, and little snippets of your personal style and work as a make-up artist. Please keep posting content when you can.
Wow! LOVE this content
It’s incredible informative and well made
Ty 🥺💕