Can you please upload the unedited version of this video. I am a machinist and my grandfather is or rather was a machinist and this old gentleman reminds me of him and I could listen to him for hours on end.
An ancestor of mine on my mother’s side was John Spencer (1792-1874), who was a file manufacturer in Sheffield. He had the honour of being elected Master Cutler in 1835.
Thank you very much for this video, in all my years as a fitter/engineer I have never given files any thought when I used them. I still have some old Sheffield files and will treasure them.
Great to see these videos on file making! This gives you an appreciation of the processes in making files. I inherited dozens of files from my father, and to this day (as in "today"), I still use those files, mostly on my steel sculptures.
Last week i bought a box of Wm Jessop & sons Sheffield 20" by1.5" half round files unused still in the box wrapped in oiled brown paper, i have to say its the best £12 i have spent, the quality is outstandind and the box is very nice with the company logo. They don't make em like they used to
so cool. I just fell on this channel by accident. I am always happy to find these kinds of videos as much would be lost to history if it wasn't for men llike this.
Not everything has to be a "how to" video. This is a valuable source of knowledge and history. There should be more of this, and less of the crafty panda nonsense.
@@jakesnelling8331 Well it lacks real history if it fails to show exactly how it was done. Not looking for a complete craft tutorial but like with all things historical we wonder HOW did they do that? People still speculate how things like the pyramids were built. Trouble is they left no video!
@@jakesnelling8331 Agreed, but I don't think either of us was asking for a how to, just a demo of what he's talking about instead of all flapping gums. You sound an awful lot like an arm chair enjoyer, history can be experienced as well as talked about friend, "crafty panda" lol.
Thank you so much for posting this video, what a wonderful presentation. I cannot imagine this was done by anyone over 50 before the invention of bi-focal glasses, if the quality was to remain even from one to another?
You found this remarkable channel years before others, including myself. Everyone needs to like and post a comment, not to generate money, but to pass on the word.
No idea if this very knowledgeable gent is still around? And whilst I sincerely hope so, it is a pity that in his dialogue there are quite a few errors, omissions and repeats! It’s obvious that he knew/knows his stuff, but as with myself(77), age makes you trip up, especially in front of a camera! As a toolmaker/jigborer of high standards, we always looked to Sheffield as the authority on all things steel, stainless steel included! However this nice chap may confuse you a little here and there! As with all steels that are working on, you do all the hand and machining work whilst the steel is in its initial state, ie, not yet hardened! So, you do all the cutting and sizing etc, before you harden and anneal the metal! The secret to all cutting edges is to heat, quench, temper and grind, (if required), to produce tough metals that are hard enough to cut whatever, but tough enough to not shatter under repeat process stresses, etc! Whilst not wishing to detract from this video, I am simply trying to redress the not quite factual parts! I wish Sheffield could be back where it once was…leading the world, unlike the far easts rubbish substitutes! Cheers all.
I agree - you don't harden your steel first then anneal it, that's a waste of effort! Also, making the file perfectly flat is "scraping", and it doesn't get the file ultra flat along the file, only across the file. The tempering and hardening processes also tend to make the file bend, so care must be taken to enter the work into the quench vertically!
Thank you grandfather. As a Bladesmith, I use old worn out files to make knives.bring me your grandad’s old file and you can have a piece of heritage that is now useful.
Thank you for video. Sea water (or just water with salt) was ever use with small amount of oil on top? Potentially high temperature was reduced softly within oil stage and the freezing was greatly speeded within bottom water. I guess that this could greatly improve rectilinearity.
This is probably cut from an old documentary film and not the whole video. It's not like this a "how to" tutorial though seems more like an overview of the craft and talking a little bit about it's history.
I thought it was just me. I kept playing the video back and forth but he never showed the cutting of the teeth. I think it's just badly edited, and they've cut out the most important bits!
yes, I watched a couple of this old chap's videos more than once and he told me everything except what I was actually interested in, i.e. how humans cut or engraved the teeth into hard metal files. Valuable footage, but the editing here leaves much to be desired!
In East Germany there were Filemakers active until the middle of the 1990s ca. there is an interresting german ducumentation about that. He mostly resharpened used files for workshops. ua-cam.com/video/KPPk3t9EAkk/v-deo.html
lol...we've lost more than we've gained... fortunately we've got this man to keep dreams alive!... imagine his apprenticeship!....Oh, to be a smithy, or boilermaker, anything done with metal and wood prior to 1903.....made in great Britain, made in the u s a...it was assumed... personally, I'd rather pull parts in a REAL wrecking yard, than sit in a cubicle.
At what age is it acceptable to wear your pants that high? My wife won't allow me to yet, but I'm only 44. Anyhow, things to look forward to. It looks very comfortable. Now I want to go out to my shop and look at my files, I might even hike my pants up while she's not looking. Cheers.
well, at 78, it is still too early. I was never into "sagging" but definitely the pants have to be cut so that the crotch doesn't destroy your jewels. I have several dozen files, at least. quite a few of them Nicholson. But the Japanese made some wonderful ones too. I have filed (sharpened) handsaws occasionally over the last 50 years, and Japanese files are my favorite for doing that.
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Can you please upload the unedited version of this video. I am a machinist and my grandfather is or rather was a machinist and this old gentleman reminds me of him and I could listen to him for hours on end.
Reminds me of my grandfather too man.
I wish this gentleman had a 100 videos. What a wealth of knowledge. We don't value these people nearly enough.
I will best I can.... Liked to have known him personally.
Exactly what I was just saying
My God, this man is a national treasure!
An ancestor of mine on my mother’s side was John Spencer (1792-1874), who was a file manufacturer in Sheffield. He had the honour of being elected Master Cutler in 1835.
Thank you very much for this video, in all my years as a fitter/engineer I have never given files any thought when I used them. I still have some old Sheffield files and will treasure them.
This is the kind of video that I really enjoy watching. The knowledge that this gentleman displays should never be lost.
I still value your experience, I still need you to learn how things used to be done. Love you dad.
I have a very large box of old files that I purchased at a garage sale. I will be checking them all in the hope of finding a hand made one.
I have wondered how files were made in the old days. I figured they were made/cut and then hardened but never had any info. Thank you.
Great to see these videos on file making! This gives you an appreciation of the processes in making files. I inherited dozens of files from my father, and to this day (as in "today"), I still use those files, mostly on my steel sculptures.
Last week i bought a box of Wm Jessop & sons Sheffield 20" by1.5" half round files unused still in the box wrapped in oiled brown paper, i have to say its the best £12 i have spent, the quality is outstandind and the box is very nice with the company logo. They don't make em like they used to
What a huge knowledge he has and a great pride for his work, excellent
One of the most interesting men I’ve ever seen in my life. Genuinely enthralled by these videos.
I've got a square file just like the one there on the bench, the big one! First time I've seen one other than mine! It's so heavy, it's just insane!
Why so large though? Do you know?
@@Joe_Damageo I've got no idea... It's an inch+ square, so probably for making large round holes into squares?
Thanks for the good video, I have files in my workshop and still use them.
I have owned many a product from Sheffield always charrished the tools I acquired from there...
Cool history! I appreciate the information!
so cool. I just fell on this channel by accident. I am always happy to find these kinds of videos as much would be lost to history if it wasn't for men llike this.
Thank you for all of your hard work!
Interesting but maddening he never actually shows how it was done.
I know right, I've gone through a few videos trying to find him doing some cutting lol, nothing but talk so far!
There are cutting vids of guys in Asia.
Not everything has to be a "how to" video. This is a valuable source of knowledge and history. There should be more of this, and less of the crafty panda nonsense.
@@jakesnelling8331 Well it lacks real history if it fails to show exactly how it was done. Not looking for a complete craft tutorial but like with all things historical we wonder HOW did they do that? People still speculate how things like the pyramids were built. Trouble is they left no video!
@@jakesnelling8331 Agreed, but I don't think either of us was asking for a how to, just a demo of what he's talking about instead of all flapping gums. You sound an awful lot like an arm chair enjoyer, history can be experienced as well as talked about friend, "crafty panda" lol.
Thank you so much for posting this video, what a wonderful presentation. I cannot imagine this was done by anyone over 50 before the invention of bi-focal glasses, if the quality was to remain even from one to another?
Just switch glasses.... Before bifocals....
You found this remarkable channel years before others, including myself. Everyone needs to like and post a comment, not to generate money, but to pass on the word.
Quite fascinating actually. Very good.
Very well explained, thank you
This is utterly fascinating! He's a fine old gentleman with lots of knowledge and a good deliver. Pity the editing was done so badly.
you're welcome to volunteer your own skills
I have several Sheffield ancestors called Hawley who were file cutters, grinders etc.
A treasure of history
Every good explanation ty sir
Love videos like this
Ok lets add a few files to the list of tools I have to make someday
Wow that was amazing
Thanks!
Great video but I still dont know how the teeth were cut though.
What a treasure!!!
No idea if this very knowledgeable gent is still around? And whilst I sincerely hope so, it is a pity that in his dialogue there are quite a few errors, omissions and repeats! It’s obvious that he knew/knows his stuff, but as with myself(77), age makes you trip up, especially in front of a camera! As a toolmaker/jigborer of high standards, we always looked to Sheffield as the authority on all things steel, stainless steel included! However this nice chap may confuse you a little here and there! As with all steels that are working on, you do all the hand and machining work whilst the steel is in its initial state, ie, not yet hardened! So, you do all the cutting and sizing etc, before you harden and anneal the metal! The secret to all cutting edges is to heat, quench, temper and grind, (if required), to produce tough metals that are hard enough to cut whatever, but tough enough to not shatter under repeat process stresses, etc! Whilst not wishing to detract from this video, I am simply trying to redress the not quite factual parts! I wish Sheffield could be back where it once was…leading the world, unlike the far easts rubbish substitutes! Cheers all.
I agree - you don't harden your steel first then anneal it, that's a waste of effort! Also, making the file perfectly flat is "scraping", and it doesn't get the file ultra flat along the file, only across the file. The tempering and hardening processes also tend to make the file bend, so care must be taken to enter the work into the quench vertically!
Thank you grandfather. As a Bladesmith, I use old worn out files to make knives.bring me your grandad’s old file and you can have a piece of heritage that is now useful.
Thank you for video.
Sea water (or just water with salt) was ever use with small amount of oil on top?
Potentially high temperature was reduced softly within oil stage and the freezing was greatly speeded within bottom water. I guess that this could greatly improve rectilinearity.
Each part his trousers get higher and higher.
He didn't show the cuting process. He said he did. Twice. But didn't actually.
ua-cam.com/video/FB58hkncznI/v-deo.html
This is probably cut from an old documentary film and not the whole video. It's not like this a "how to" tutorial though seems more like an overview of the craft and talking a little bit about it's history.
A separate video @@fallenstudent1103
I thought it was just me. I kept playing the video back and forth but he never showed the cutting of the teeth. I think it's just badly edited, and they've cut out the most important bits!
yes, I watched a couple of this old chap's videos more than once and he told me everything except what I was actually interested in, i.e. how humans cut or engraved the teeth into hard metal files. Valuable footage, but the editing here leaves much to be desired!
In East Germany there were Filemakers active until the middle of the 1990s ca. there is an interresting german ducumentation about that. He mostly resharpened used files for workshops. ua-cam.com/video/KPPk3t9EAkk/v-deo.html
I miss the good old days of ethical child labor..
Who edited this?😂
lol...we've lost more than we've gained... fortunately we've got this man to keep dreams alive!... imagine his apprenticeship!....Oh, to be a smithy, or boilermaker, anything done with metal and wood prior to 1903.....made in great Britain, made in the u s a...it was assumed... personally, I'd rather pull parts in a REAL wrecking yard, than sit in a cubicle.
Getting mixed up a bit ,but great knowledge
respect ajoba ( grandfather)
That's some wretched editing there. He talked about annealing about 12 times.
Bruh is that a 2 inch square file I think I'm tripping
Clickspring origins!
That's what's wrong with the world today...Children don't earn their vittles anymore!
au contraire & also Quite right! they now work all the hours they can for marketing corporations & influence programs & don't even get Tee
At what age is it acceptable to wear your pants that high? My wife won't allow me to yet, but I'm only 44. Anyhow, things to look forward to. It looks very comfortable.
Now I want to go out to my shop and look at my files, I might even hike my pants up while she's not looking. Cheers.
Oh dear no. You must start with braces.
Then the pants can go up, little by little, year by year.
well, at 78, it is still too early. I was never into "sagging" but definitely the pants have to be cut so that the crotch doesn't destroy your jewels. I have several dozen files, at least. quite a few of them Nicholson. But the Japanese made some wonderful ones too. I have filed (sharpened) handsaws occasionally over the last 50 years, and Japanese files are my favorite for doing that.
Sir
You just make video.
A confused video……