@@wakanzeee46 He's definitely got some Harden in him, but Nash was a heck of a shooter; Nash would've been a greater scorer had he played 5 years later.
That's exactly the problem. Playing or watching sports in the US is living in a bubble. They are absolutely oblivious about what's going on in Europe and the rest of the world. Plus, this so called 'anal-lysts' are so cynical they were sure Luka was a bust without even watching him play!!!!
I don't even know who that dumbass was who said that, I'm not into basketball as much anymore but for you to say that you at least have to be someone with some kind of track record.
His name is Reshuad Phillips and on twitter til this day he very clearly is biased he doesn’t give Luka any love and he rides Trae like he’s the best player drafted in the last 5 years 😂😂😂
He debuted the senior Real madrid side at age 16, the youngest in club history. in the 2 best league in the world (mutch higher level the NCAA) at 17 Won season MVP, 18 won Euro luge Season and Finals MVP And they didt think he was a special player 🤔🤔😂😂😂
Everyone called me stupid on twitter when I said Luka would do well in the NBA. I mean, to play for Real Madrid starting from age 16? To be MVP at 18? the best college players couldn’t achieve that. Some of the best college players end up out of the NBA after a few years and go to Europe and come nowhere close to what Luka achieved. People are so stupid. I’m American and I’ll say it. American basketball fans and analysts are stupid af when it comes to understanding the game beyond the United States
@@mauriciomartinez1589 while its true, Doncic was the youngest pro player Real Madrid ever had. Rubio still the youngest player ever played on any basketball league.
Mark Spears is the worst of all, he is a xenophobic, fat asshole. Tried to argue that Ayton is a better player and pronounces his name don-sick even though he damn well knows how to pronounce his name
That is just an insane statement. I dont understand how they thought he won before he came to the US but couldnt win here? As if he were going to forget how to pass, dribble, and shoot. Plus he''ll be much better by age 25 when he is fully mature.
@@anthonyjudechicano5226 bruh he trying to save his career....dude literaly said that one of the future MVP candidates and NBA's biggest stars should be drafted in the *SECOND ROUND*
What? Skip Bayless logic: He's from Europe and he's slow, you know who's also from Europe and slow? Dirk Nowitzki. So therefore Luka wont be good. Whhhaaaaat????
They were laughing but, that joke that they made about Bird and Nash... they are going to have to eat that pill because it totally looks Luka is pretty much that.
Gus Gang as a Houston fan, he’s gonna be a problem. I was at Dirk’s last game in Houston and Luka single handedly kept the game close. He was getting clobbered too but wasn’t getting any calls. He’ll be a superstar in the next few years.
Don’t bring nationality into this. Luka was slow, and coming in we didn’t know if his skills would translate. I’m proud of him but to say that he was a sure thing is wrong. So I don’t blame the sports community at all
@@4Exia you must be blind to think that luka being slow will be the sole reason he wont be a lottery pick and hell someone said luka's worth is only a 2nd round pick. We can all agree luka aint a Athletic but he is at average point athletic as a player. Entering the draft, luka might be the most complete rookie like for a long time. He got the scoring, the passing, the leadership, clutch kid, 3 levels of scoring from paint to three, average rebounder. If you think deeply, IF LUKA IS REALLY ATHLETIC WHILE REMAINING THOSE SKILLS, It may sound as if im exaggerating but who u might think comes into mind? He is a fking lebron james with shooting AGAIN ONLY IF HE HAD ABOVE AVERAGE ATHLETICISM
@@4Exia wiggins was fast and for sure you think he was a sure thing coz he "fast" but lol he dead stuck on Minnesota. Ben Simmons? He is a great nba player and really fast but he cant space the floor embiid. Basketball aint all about being athletic or fast, you need tons of skills to be able to perform period
CAC CAC I never said he wasn’t going to be a lottery pick stop putting words in my mouth. He had red flags and for good measure, proved them wrong but there was still a lot of question marks. Read
Paying Ricky Rubio 16 million is insane. We know he's good internationally, we've known that since he was 16, but in the NBA you need a different set of abilities otherwise teams exploit you (see the last 2 years of Jazz playoff games)
@@jamesbohm3690 Its not insane. Mildly overpaid, but the Suns really needed a playmaker so that Booker can just be a SG, so its actually a pretty good deal. Im confused on what you mean by the Jazz Playoff games though. His first year VS OKC he was often the best guard on the court (from both teams) and in the second round he was injured and didnt play. Second year it was mostly about Mitchell not playing well and Ingles being a completely non-factor. Rubio didnt play as well as the year before but definitely wasnt a scrub.
@@colesandick446 dear North American, you are always saying the same when you lose. If USA wins the tournament, I only hear them saying they are the best of the world. NBA doesn't play defense, I understand NBA players don't want to play FIBA rules. Your country is the same size Europe and you are 7 place. They need the best 10 players to win. Quality basketball there...
I don't know how all these scouts missed this. I am an amateur analyst and I watched Luka play four games in Real and I was convinced he was the safest pick in that draft class. I was sold on his playmaking from the first game. That isn't something that goes away and a good playmaker can open up a ton of other options on the offensive end. I also saw him as a super young player with a high ceiling for development. I was shocked to hear some analysts talk like he was an older player who had reached his peak already. I was sitting there like, this guy is within a year of the one-and-done kids, how is he at his peak? He also played in a professional league for two years, won a championship and represented his nation, so no stranger to big moments. Sometimes I swear the sports media is the biggest example of group-think outside of modern American politics.
@@Max-bm5rs I'm going to have to disagree. The Suns took Ayton over him, even though they didn't have a solid PG. The Hawks traded Luka for Trey Young. Not saying Trey isn't a good player, but his upside is just less as a smaller guard. We won't know about the others since the Mavs were set on him from the start.
@@raginasiangaming910 Sure, but they also had Devin Booker on the wing and Luka is a bit on the taller side for a PG. I at least understood why the Suns picked Ayton (fit and AU connection) but the Kings just went full Kings when they took Bagley. Imagine them rn w Luka. GOAT offence.
@timocruz510 well yeah, nothing is worse than the Kings. I think the Suns made a mistake, but I think its more reasonable. I do stand by the statement that NBA teams aren't great at scouting Europe. Personally, having watched a lot of Euro League and NBA basketball, I think you need different metrics because the game is played somewhat differently.
They’re so wrong about Dirk, Dirk was moving in ways 7 footers have never done when he was young. He took guys to the basket often as a counter if they got on him in the perimeter.
Yep, Dirk wasn't athletic for a wingman but for a 7-footer he was athletic. And he did score 50 points against some NBA all-stars in 98. That should have been a clue he could have made it to the league.
Athleticism is taken over literally every skill by these analysts Well this guy shoots better passes better plays better defense plays better fundamentals and has played against better competition than anyone else in the draft BUT LOOK AT THAT DUNK AND HOW HIGH HE JUMPS MORE NBA READY
Amen. The league is LITTERED with the bodies of athletic players who were supposed to light it up, only to crash to earth because they don't know how to actually play basketball. I watched clips of Luka in Europe, his vision alone was like almost no one I'd ever seen. Add his shooting, savvy, post moves, handle and clutch ability, and it all added up to a can't miss prospect. But he wasn't "athletic" enough(aka he was white) so he won't be very good. Pathetic these idiots have a job analyzing a game they don't seem to understand..
@@randylahey8207 I think Luka lacks some defensive toughness but besides that I think his game was incredibly well rounded. Kind of for me the opposite of Giannis a guy who will start out of shape more or less and bad on D but great skill and he will only get better in the strength and D department opposite of GA who came in with every physical gift you could ask for but almost no basketball skill and developed all that skill in a few years. If Luka can do the same he will have a ring soon that team is giving it too the suns being a clearly worse team
To be fair athleticism is very important when looking a prospects, and not having athleticism is one of the main reasons some players don't translate to the NBA. The issue is more that Luka's lack of athleticism was way overblown, as he is a pretty good athlete. They also ignore certain athletic attributes like strength and body control
@@rayquaza1245 well that is what I’m saying all they look at at least analysts is “woah you see him jump over TWO teammates and dunk it??” And they don’t look at actual movements and they clearly just don’t watch any games before making assessments they look at the same 7 highlights everybody and there mother sees and then pawn off some “basketball knowledge” It’s just lazy reporting like just slap Ted from down at the bar on screen if you are just going too watch highlights for 30 seconds before doing a tv show about basketball
A lot of American analysts can’t see a complete basketball player. Great handle, great jumper, can finish around the rim, crafty, high basketball IQ and someone that has a perfect feel for the game. According to them if someone isn’t athletic then he can’t make it to the NBA 🤦🏿♂️. How are they even analysts?
The Fashion Archive they aren’t. Stephen a isn’t an analyst. Rashad Phillips is just a scout. Cowherd and skip are talking heads. Shannon is mostly analyzing American football. They are talking heads who are there to generate ratings. Well except the Phillips guy.
Ha ha ha! The kid tore up talented, experienced guys in Europe. Won everything. Amazing how these pundits turned a blind eye to such amazing talent. Go Luka!
I don’t care what color you are skill will ALWAYS beat athleticism. Saw him on NBATV before he was drafted he played against American pros I knew he was rookie of the year.
Despite winning rookie of the year and most analysts now realizing that luka is really good, he still might be the most underrated player in the NBA. People still dont fully understand that he is one of the top 10 talents of all time entering the NBA, clearly the most talented player that has entered the league since LBJ. This shows if you look at the hype surrounding zion, who is nowhere near as talented as luka and just because he is really athletic gets hyped up, despite showing less impressive stuff against much less skilled competition pre draft than luka.
its cuz he american i guarantee you if luka was american you would be tired of earing about him by now cause they would have been talking about him 24/7
@Hugh Mungus oh no no no nowhere near the coverage zion got and he is getting we just pointing out the truth but it seems like you the one with the ego here since pointing out the truth hurts your pride so much I mean they even covered what shoe deal he is getting like what???!! only reason luka got the coverage he got its cause he gave them no choice but for them to talk about him and only a very few handful of shows spoke about him and speak about him on a somewhat consistent basis I mean even Lonzo got more coverage on his first year so don't come here lying at trying to shift the blame cause you americans never like to admit when you wrong or when you have wronged always defensive so get rid of that huge ego of yours and humble down
@Hugh Mungus you’re a HUGHge idiot. Zion was way more hyped than luka idk what planet you live on. In no sense of the word is he overrated in any way. I’m only in this section because the man who commented this absolutely hit the nail on the head. You my friend, do not and may not ever understand basketball or talent.
@Hugh Mungus zion wasnt dominant in college didnt even win the college tournament. He also wasnt even the leader of duke. Zion as a basketball prospect in 201o is increidble overhyped. Hes shorter than luka, less skilled, and injury prone. Luka did not get nearly he level of coverage he shouldve. Part of that is that he was in fallas but its mostly that hes international. Anericans dont respect skilled players they insist players like luka or curry arent that good becaie athletically they arent freaks. Luka is plenty athletic he managed to block lebron and trae young last year as well as cross up many many defenders.
@Hugh Mungus 2 injuries. Got injured in summer league in under 9 minutes. And i dont care about college stats when they relied on him being bigger than most of his competition. His game doesnt translate. He is 6'6 with no jumper and medicore handles he is in the wrong era. He will get destroyed without major improvement. Luka competition in thr highest level of euroleague is leaps and bounds better than ncaa college basketball. Zion in summer league got his shot blocked 4 times and didnt score unless he was wide open. Noy yo mention he has no go to move like luka does.
I just watched every highlight of him. I don’t watch basketball, more of a soccer fan myself, but I will be a fan for him being a former Real Madrid Basketball player. I think I’ll start following NBA bit by bit, certainly because of him. Also he proved them wrong. 💪
September 15th, 2017 is when I first watched Luka (just in highlights). You could tell he was going to be dynamic offensively. The Handle for a guy 6'7.... I think a lot of people overlooked that. Should have been #1.
Who's watching this after Luka hit the game winner against the LA clippers and became one of only three players to hit a 40+ point triple double in the playoffs
2 years later and he improved a lot. I´ve never seen a player that got better each season. He added new parts to his game every summer and this summer he might added a hook shot smh
The kid has been training and practicing with professionals since he was a teenager. Idk how anyone could have thought he wasn't going to be a special type of player.
I love how people talked so much about his athleticism, and brought up guys like Bird, Dirk and Nash. Who were crafty white guys that were never the most athletic guys in the NBA, yet were MVP’s and are now HOF’ers. Luka reads defences better than almost any PG in the league today, he knows how to create shots for himself, his shooting is getting better and better, they’re putting pieces around him that will help his defensive lapses. He’s 6’7 playing the point which automatically gives him an advantage over smaller defenders. If they can find a true Center to help them grab boards like Chandler did for the Mavs and a wing Defender along the lines of Marion. Then this team will be a title contender NO DOUBT
It's kind of funny the way they talk about Luka at 0:33 is pretty much the exact way they spoke about Tom Brady. Guess we'll see If history repeats itself.
@@aarontan2197 I'm from Spain I saw Luka play before he went to the NBA and I was amazed when they passed on him with the 1st pick let alone the second. Analysts really forget that IQ and fundamentals are more valuable to the game than just pure athlethicism
Bill Simmons was on the hype train before anyone else, months before the draft was one a few people not only talking up Luka but Bill loves Luka well before the draft
I watch NBA and eruropean basketball, no college ball. I had huge expectations when for Ayton when I discovered he was rated higher than Doncic. I thought there was no way Doncic wasn't gonna be first pick so if that guy was rated higher he must have special special. It was so clear Doncic was a real deal to anyone who followed him.
if you look at the guys who were underestimating Luka's talent before he played in the NBA, they are all what you can say media goons. Every player, ex player and as Broussard said scout, knew what this kid was all about, players know that when a 18 years old wins the Euro Legue MVP of the finals you're dealing with prodigy kind of stuff. He just needs to get better defensively and he'll become a champion with the right peaces for sure.
This video proves that these sports analyst don't know what the f*** they talking about. They rip you until some good then they change it up like they been on ya side the whole time smh. 💯
Luka is redefining athleticism... Low center of gravity... cant be pushed around...Lengthy Horizontal movement... Stops on a dime... All underrated attributes because the focus is on top speed and vertical
A wise man once said, "A great athlete will give the crowd oohs and ahhs, but a great basketball player will win you games." That's who Luka Doncic is, a great basketball player. Just how great he becomes will be a factor of time played, injuries sustained and their effects on his overall play, and his work ethic and desire to develop, and his team and individual results. He's easily the most accomplished European player to enter the league, especially at his age. People queried Larry Bird's athletic ability before he came into the league, and he showed that a slow white guy who could hardly get off the hardwood could still impact the game in a multitude of ways, based off his intelligence, and skill set. I'm not saying that Doncic is the next coming of Larry Bird, at least not until he starts winning championships. I do think that with Kristaps Porzingis (assuming that KP is healthy) are going to be a great duo for the Mavs, and with the right pieces around them, they will be a force to be reckoned with in the West for the next decade if they stay together.
He literally proved everyone wrong including me but I did want him to go to the sun's with the number one pick with booker but I honestly know he was gonna be this good
Since when has lack of athleticism stopped highly skilled, high IQ players? Its like these idiot "experts" forgot about Bird, Duncan, Nash, Stockton, Nowitzki, etc.... And Lukas speed and hops is fine since He's got plenty of size at 6'7 - 6'8. High IQ and skills will always prevail over just athleticism in basketball. Duh.
to be fair, despite all of them being wrong initially, most of them admitted that they were wrong about him once the season started. Nothing wrong with changing your opinion, or getting a call wrong. Admitting it is hard to most people who make predictions for a living.
" i don't give a damn about kid in Europe " .... 2 years later one is averaging 30 points triple double and other is juicing on steroids. It's baffling that SA Smith still has job.
The problem with USA media is that they lack of knowledge of basket outside USA.. Euroleague is a much tougher competion of NBA, more phisical, every game is a war, scoring overthere is much much difficult to score than NBA, where in regular season basically you play defense poorly at best..In the World Cup Usa has tested what it means a FIBA tournament and despise to have one of the greatest coaching staff in history they finished 7th..NBA is the number 1 league in terms of talent, but Euroleague is much better and tougher in terms of play the game..
You’re going to use this year’s fiba results as an example of basketball in the nba? The nba is the best basketball league in the world. It’s not close. Euroleague is maybe second . The nba where you described the euroleague usually starts in March and ends through the playoffs. The beginning of the regular seasons are about setting and a tone and then coasting but never go all out. That is reserved until later in the season. But you used fiba this year as an example is laughable. It’s already known the Us didn’t send their best players. Why didn’t you use fiba of 2010 and 2014? Why didn’t you use the Olympics of 2012 and 2016?
StylistecS first of all, i said that NBA is the best league beacuse they have the best players..but the way the game is played Euroleague is far better , the Ball is moved much better and the defence is exellent. When you say maybe is the second league means that you have absolutely no idea of international basketball not only is the second best by far but the best Euroleague teams like real, Barcelona , Efes, CSKA can beat the worst NBA teams without question ..
joe smith, olowokandi, marcus fizer, tim thomas, desmond mason, jason richardson, josh and jr smith, thomas robinson, andrew wiggins all were praised and deemed future superstars or legends before they were drafted and early in their careers but all had/having forgettable to mediocre ok careers. meanwhile giraffe level athletes dirk tim duncan ginobili and pau gasol became central or key pieces of championship teams.
Many analysts and lame former players think it's all about athleticism... There are many factors to consider: athleticism, winner mentality, leadership, basketball IQ, fundamentals, etc. That's why scouts are the best to tell you the best players out there, they analyze and consider all these things, not these "analysts" who only watch a few UA-cam clips and the only thing they notice is "the guy is slow".
i saw him in Spain winning important games in Spanish Liga and Europe Competition with 16-17 years old, all we said this guy is special, the choosen one, but this analyst for sure never saw a game outside NBA.... no professionals
Most of these scouts are freaking tools! At the end of the day athleticism is always a bonus, Raw basketball skill is always gonna get you through games! Yes, Luka ain’t the quickest or the strongest, but the boy got High basketball IQ, and can straight up play! Plain and simple, the eye test is real gentlemen and he passes it! Respect to Luka From NY! ✊
Luka being a combination of Bird and Nash might be the most accurate thing i’ve heard
Agreed
Harden + Bird more like, Nash ain’t a scorer like him.
@@wakanzeee46 he can pass like nash
@@wakanzeee46 and score like Bird
@@wakanzeee46 He's definitely got some Harden in him, but Nash was a heck of a shooter; Nash would've been a greater scorer had he played 5 years later.
Shock, nba scouts are more accurate than 'analysts'
💯💯💯
Even the scouts were wrong. They rated DeAndre Ayton higher. Unless basketball sees a statistical revolution, both scouts and analysts will be wrong.
Fact!!
They are mostly "anal-ysts" then analysts .
No shock, Analysts are as accurate as internet trolls.
"we tend to over-sensationalize European basketball" European basketball is super underrated and is better than the NCAA by miles
Not in the minds of every American "analyst"
Honestly, I better watch Euroleague now.
That's exactly the problem. Playing or watching sports in the US is living in a bubble. They are absolutely oblivious about what's going on in Europe and the rest of the world. Plus, this so called 'anal-lysts' are so cynical they were sure Luka was a bust without even watching him play!!!!
Exactly. The NCAA is trash.
@@tommyrex6648 the NCAA is people under 24 the euro league is Grown 25 or so year old men.
“I don’t believe he’s a lottery pick” damn the disrespect in that statement
I don't even know who that dumbass was who said that, I'm not into basketball as much anymore but for you to say that you at least have to be someone with some kind of track record.
His name is Reshuad Phillips and on twitter til this day he very clearly is biased he doesn’t give Luka any love and he rides Trae like he’s the best player drafted in the last 5 years 😂😂😂
Lol Not a lottery pick and slower than rush hour traffic
Wow he said that because he is not an American nor a Black Person
I almost spilled out my drink when I heard him say that
@@brxndaveli5834 ya he dug in his heelsbut he can't run from this tape he won't ever be able to speak on draft prospects again after this
He debuted the senior Real madrid side at age 16, the youngest in club history. in the 2 best league in the world (mutch higher level the NCAA) at 17 Won season MVP, 18 won Euro luge Season and Finals MVP
And they didt think he was a special player 🤔🤔😂😂😂
Couldn't agree more bruh. This kid is special.
Everyone called me stupid on twitter when I said Luka would do well in the NBA. I mean, to play for Real Madrid starting from age 16? To be MVP at 18? the best college players couldn’t achieve that. Some of the best college players end up out of the NBA after a few years and go to Europe and come nowhere close to what Luka achieved. People are so stupid. I’m American and I’ll say it. American basketball fans and analysts are stupid af when it comes to understanding the game beyond the United States
NBA pundits prefer 3 point + athletic players so they tend to push aside players with finesse only (most European players are)
The youngest player to debut in club history is Ricky Rubio at age 14 btw
@@mauriciomartinez1589 while its true, Doncic was the youngest pro player Real Madrid ever had. Rubio still the youngest player ever played on any basketball league.
Most American analyst have the most slappable face when talking
A - best comment of the day so far hahaha
They do not represent the rest of us. We don’t like most of them here either. Especially the ones on ESPN.
Mark Spears is the worst of all, he is a xenophobic, fat asshole. Tried to argue that Ayton is a better player and pronounces his name don-sick even though he damn well knows how to pronounce his name
Good luck tryna slap shannon
True af
Rashad Phillips should be fired for his comment "second round pick" lol
Where did he say "second round pick"? He said he shouldn't be lottery.
That is just an insane statement. I dont understand how they thought he won before he came to the US but couldnt win here? As if he were going to forget how to pass, dribble, and shoot. Plus he''ll be much better by age 25 when he is fully mature.
@@kevinfoos745 Thanks, didn't see that.
As compared to others, Rashad Philips apologised to Luka.
@@anthonyjudechicano5226 bruh he trying to save his career....dude literaly said that one of the future MVP candidates and NBA's biggest stars should be drafted in the *SECOND ROUND*
“We said, in my day, that’s a baaaaad white boy” -Charles Barkley 😂😂😂
Chuck is one of the few who doesn't sound racist saying that
@@jonquist7089 agreeded Chuck gets a pass in my book
That’s actually a compliment
Barkley never underrated him before the draft, his experiences with Dirk made him the dude that knew better.
@@jonquist7089 Check out Chuck on the whole Jussie Smollett thing, Barkley doesn't give anybody a pass.
What? Skip Bayless logic: He's from Europe and he's slow, you know who's also from Europe and slow? Dirk Nowitzki. So therefore Luka wont be good.
Whhhaaaaat????
I think he is saying its possible that he will be good just like Dirk despite not being athletic like Dirk.
@@biplav32 He said he could'nt be near as good as Dirk cause he doesn't have his height, more or less.
No one should ever take skip seriously, that man is delusional.
@@alexas5260 Amen
You must be new if you are expecting genuine logic from Skip lol.
They were laughing but, that joke that they made about Bird and Nash... they are going to have to eat that pill because it totally looks Luka is pretty much that.
IKR.. joke aside, he really looks like combination of both Nash and Bird
Broussard had the worst 2018-2019 NBA season/ off-season
future hof and gonna be at least top10 all time scoree
Gus Gang as a Houston fan, he’s gonna be a problem. I was at Dirk’s last game in Houston and Luka single handedly kept the game close. He was getting clobbered too but wasn’t getting any calls. He’ll be a superstar in the next few years.
Wtf is up with yall? A combination of Bird & Nash, nah cant say outrageous stuff like that yet
Yes a 6’8 teenager who has
- elite handles
- elite shooting
- can play 1-4
- high IQ
- crafty
Was going to be an average player.
I don't think he's 6'8. 6'7 at best and that's generous.
Coops He is actually 6'8" tho, with shoes of course.
@@rudy1999 6'7 but still on growing phase tho
@@farhadzuhdi5396 Ņah, men stop growing at ~19 so he won't get taller.
@@rudy1999 really? I thought male can still grow till 21ish? I guess i'll have to check my facts right
Americans and their so called sports analysts lol smh
That's what I am thinking as well man
Don’t bring nationality into this. Luka was slow, and coming in we didn’t know if his skills would translate. I’m proud of him but to say that he was a sure thing is wrong. So I don’t blame the sports community at all
@@4Exia you must be blind to think that luka being slow will be the sole reason he wont be a lottery pick and hell someone said luka's worth is only a 2nd round pick. We can all agree luka aint a
Athletic but he is at average point athletic as a player. Entering the draft, luka might be the most complete rookie like for a long time. He got the scoring, the passing, the leadership, clutch kid, 3 levels of scoring from paint to three, average rebounder. If you think deeply, IF LUKA IS REALLY ATHLETIC WHILE REMAINING THOSE SKILLS, It may sound as if im exaggerating but who u might think comes into mind? He is a fking lebron james with shooting AGAIN ONLY IF HE HAD ABOVE AVERAGE ATHLETICISM
@@4Exia wiggins was fast and for sure you think he was a sure thing coz he "fast" but lol he dead stuck on Minnesota. Ben Simmons? He is a great nba player and really fast but he cant space the floor embiid. Basketball aint all about being athletic or fast, you need tons of skills to be able to perform period
CAC CAC
I never said he wasn’t going to be a lottery pick stop putting words in my mouth. He had red flags and for good measure, proved them wrong but there was still a lot of question marks. Read
This analysts said Ricky Rubio to the Suns was the worst trade of the year... A few months laters he wins the World Cup MVP and his team got the gold.
Paying Ricky Rubio 16 million is insane. We know he's good internationally, we've known that since he was 16, but in the NBA you need a different set of abilities otherwise teams exploit you (see the last 2 years of Jazz playoff games)
@@jamesbohm3690 Its not insane. Mildly overpaid, but the Suns really needed a playmaker so that Booker can just be a SG, so its actually a pretty good deal. Im confused on what you mean by the Jazz Playoff games though. His first year VS OKC he was often the best guard on the court (from both teams) and in the second round he was injured and didnt play. Second year it was mostly about Mitchell not playing well and Ingles being a completely non-factor. Rubio didnt play as well as the year before but definitely wasnt a scrub.
@@jamesbohm3690 watch the game instead of heard from those analysts recap.
EdenDreamX dear Europeans, to nba fans, the World Cup is completely irrelevant
@@colesandick446 dear North American, you are always saying the same when you lose. If USA wins the tournament, I only hear them saying they are the best of the world. NBA doesn't play defense, I understand NBA players don't want to play FIBA rules. Your country is the same size Europe and you are 7 place. They need the best 10 players to win. Quality basketball there...
I don't know how all these scouts missed this. I am an amateur analyst and I watched Luka play four games in Real and I was convinced he was the safest pick in that draft class. I was sold on his playmaking from the first game. That isn't something that goes away and a good playmaker can open up a ton of other options on the offensive end.
I also saw him as a super young player with a high ceiling for development. I was shocked to hear some analysts talk like he was an older player who had reached his peak already. I was sitting there like, this guy is within a year of the one-and-done kids, how is he at his peak? He also played in a professional league for two years, won a championship and represented his nation, so no stranger to big moments.
Sometimes I swear the sports media is the biggest example of group-think outside of modern American politics.
@@Max-bm5rs I'm going to have to disagree. The Suns took Ayton over him, even though they didn't have a solid PG. The Hawks traded Luka for Trey Young. Not saying Trey isn't a good player, but his upside is just less as a smaller guard. We won't know about the others since the Mavs were set on him from the start.
@@raginasiangaming910 Sure, but they also had Devin Booker on the wing and Luka is a bit on the taller side for a PG. I at least understood why the Suns picked Ayton (fit and AU connection) but the Kings just went full Kings when they took Bagley. Imagine them rn w Luka. GOAT offence.
@timocruz510 well yeah, nothing is worse than the Kings. I think the Suns made a mistake, but I think its more reasonable. I do stand by the statement that NBA teams aren't great at scouting Europe. Personally, having watched a lot of Euro League and NBA basketball, I think you need different metrics because the game is played somewhat differently.
Go look at Dirk earlier in his career, he was incredibly athletic and mobile for his size.
Dirk was a monster the first half of his career. He used to take bigs off the dribble all the time. Short term memory from Skiiiiip.
Skip just hates the whole Mavericks cause Mark Cuban humiliates him a few years back
Yeah man. He look like KD at a young age
Andrew Lin Dirk had probably the best footwork in the history of basketball
@@silvioneverdies1397 nah, not really
They’re so wrong about Dirk, Dirk was moving in ways 7 footers have never done when he was young. He took guys to the basket often as a counter if they got on him in the perimeter.
Dirk was pretty athletic for his size he would face dudes up all the time
He’s not black so you’re not allowed to say that.
Yep, Dirk wasn't athletic for a wingman but for a 7-footer he was athletic. And he did score 50 points against some NBA all-stars in 98. That should have been a clue he could have made it to the league.
They said all that shit without watching one single entire game of Luka in Spain
Just wanted to come back and watch this after Luka put up a 42 point triple dub.
Straight up
Here with ya!
Athleticism is taken over literally every skill by these analysts
Well this guy shoots better passes better plays better defense plays better fundamentals and has played against better competition than anyone else in the draft
BUT LOOK AT THAT DUNK AND HOW HIGH HE JUMPS
MORE NBA READY
this comment summs up pretty much everything. came here after another 40pt triple double against the pistons in mexico. "ExPuRtZ"
Amen. The league is LITTERED with the bodies of athletic players who were supposed to light it up, only to crash to earth because they don't know how to actually play basketball. I watched clips of Luka in Europe, his vision alone was like almost no one I'd ever seen. Add his shooting, savvy, post moves, handle and clutch ability, and it all added up to a can't miss prospect. But he wasn't "athletic" enough(aka he was white) so he won't be very good. Pathetic these idiots have a job analyzing a game they don't seem to understand..
@@randylahey8207 I think Luka lacks some defensive toughness but besides that I think his game was incredibly well rounded. Kind of for me the opposite of Giannis a guy who will start out of shape more or less and bad on D but great skill and he will only get better in the strength and D department opposite of GA who came in with every physical gift you could ask for but almost no basketball skill and developed all that skill in a few years. If Luka can do the same he will have a ring soon that team is giving it too the suns being a clearly worse team
To be fair athleticism is very important when looking a prospects, and not having athleticism is one of the main reasons some players don't translate to the NBA. The issue is more that Luka's lack of athleticism was way overblown, as he is a pretty good athlete. They also ignore certain athletic attributes like strength and body control
@@rayquaza1245 well that is what I’m saying all they look at at least analysts is “woah you see him jump over TWO teammates and dunk it??” And they don’t look at actual movements and they clearly just don’t watch any games before making assessments they look at the same 7 highlights everybody and there mother sees and then pawn off some “basketball knowledge”
It’s just lazy reporting like just slap Ted from down at the bar on screen if you are just going too watch highlights for 30 seconds before doing a tv show about basketball
A lot of American analysts can’t see a complete basketball player. Great handle, great jumper, can finish around the rim, crafty, high basketball IQ and someone that has a perfect feel for the game. According to them if someone isn’t athletic then he can’t make it to the NBA 🤦🏿♂️.
How are they even analysts?
The Fashion Archive they aren’t. Stephen a isn’t an analyst. Rashad Phillips is just a scout. Cowherd and skip are talking heads. Shannon is mostly analyzing American football. They are talking heads who are there to generate ratings. Well except the Phillips guy.
@@StylistecS you couldn't explain it better.
Broussard was the only one who was close to being objective about Luka. That man is a decent analyst.
He predicted Steph. He’s got an old person mentality and really funny on FTF.
He's breaking triple doubles records right now at 20 years old omg possibly leagues mvp!!
LUUUUKKAAAAA!!!!! i loooove this kid!! I hope porzingis stays healthy. Those 2 together are SCARY
The guy with Broussard shouldn't be on tv for basketball insight... However he'll probably have a show on ESPN next year
ESPN fired him
@@alasdairmacintyre9383 who is he?
@@satsuma1754 a nobody
Feel for the game, passion, high IQ. Those things cannot be measured!
Look at Jokic(top 8 player in the game) and now you have a phenom in Luka
*Top 10 player.
@@ignorantpost6051 you were sayin?😂
@@ignorantpost6051
*Top 3 player.
Are those two on the start still has a job? OMG
Amo Bratina the bald one on the left actually doesn’t anymore
A bad prediction doesn't mean you can't talk about the sport, if it did all if us wouldn't be allowed to
Broussard should be banned by SportTV
@@bigchungus2121 if u talk shit without knowing how he plays yes u should get fired
Broussard lies about having KDs number 😭
Always remember sport journalism isn't about knowledge, it's about sensationalism and reporting on what's in front of everyone's eyes
You have to see it to believe it. The future of the NBA, Luka Doncic
Well, well, well who's here after Luka dropped 40+ and hit the game winner against the clippers in game 4 lol
Ha ha ha! The kid tore up talented, experienced guys in Europe. Won everything. Amazing how these pundits turned a blind eye to such amazing talent. Go Luka!
I don’t care what color you are skill will ALWAYS beat athleticism. Saw him on NBATV before he was drafted he played against American pros I knew he was rookie of the year.
“Not a lottery pick”
That fool who said that still got a job?
he IS a guru no ???
rashad Phillip called himself a guru no ???
Wow, you must have missed the part at the end where he said he was a second round draft pick. Just when you thought things couldn't get any dumber....
I think Luca is going to go down as one of the most under rated hall of famers pre-draft.
Lol. Who's here right after Luka's 73 point game vs Atlanta, Jan27 2024?
European player usually loyal, Great pick for the Mavs
Oh how I love when haters get proven wrong.
They eat their words😂😂😂 kid from Slovenia do wonders! Samo tako naprej Luka magic!
"I don't believe he's a lottery pick" 😂😂😂
Despite winning rookie of the year and most analysts now realizing that luka is really good, he still might be the most underrated player in the NBA. People still dont fully understand that he is one of the top 10 talents of all time entering the NBA, clearly the most talented player that has entered the league since LBJ. This shows if you look at the hype surrounding zion, who is nowhere near as talented as luka and just because he is really athletic gets hyped up, despite showing less impressive stuff against much less skilled competition pre draft than luka.
its cuz he american i guarantee you if luka was american you would be tired of earing about him by now cause they would have been talking about him 24/7
@Hugh Mungus oh no no no nowhere near the coverage zion got and he is getting we just pointing out the truth but it seems like you the one with the ego here since pointing out the truth hurts your pride so much I mean they even covered what shoe deal he is getting like what???!! only reason luka got the coverage he got its cause he gave them no choice but for them to talk about him and only a very few handful of shows spoke about him and speak about him on a somewhat consistent basis I mean even Lonzo got more coverage on his first year so don't come here lying at trying to shift the blame cause you americans never like to admit when you wrong or when you have wronged always defensive so get rid of that huge ego of yours and humble down
@Hugh Mungus you’re a HUGHge idiot. Zion was way more hyped than luka idk what planet you live on. In no sense of the word is he overrated in any way. I’m only in this section because the man who commented this absolutely hit the nail on the head. You my friend, do not and may not ever understand basketball or talent.
@Hugh Mungus zion wasnt dominant in college didnt even win the college tournament. He also wasnt even the leader of duke.
Zion as a basketball prospect in 201o is increidble overhyped. Hes shorter than luka, less skilled, and injury prone.
Luka did not get nearly he level of coverage he shouldve. Part of that is that he was in fallas but its mostly that hes international.
Anericans dont respect skilled players they insist players like luka or curry arent that good becaie athletically they arent freaks. Luka is plenty athletic he managed to block lebron and trae young last year as well as cross up many many defenders.
@Hugh Mungus 2 injuries. Got injured in summer league in under 9 minutes. And i dont care about college stats when they relied on him being bigger than most of his competition. His game doesnt translate. He is 6'6 with no jumper and medicore handles he is in the wrong era. He will get destroyed without major improvement.
Luka competition in thr highest level of euroleague is leaps and bounds better than ncaa college basketball. Zion in summer league got his shot blocked 4 times and didnt score unless he was wide open. Noy yo mention he has no go to move like luka does.
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of a take that has aged worse than Rashad’s.
I just watched every highlight of him. I don’t watch basketball, more of a soccer fan myself, but I will be a fan for him being a former Real Madrid Basketball player. I think I’ll start following NBA bit by bit, certainly because of him.
Also he proved them wrong. 💪
Dude was the best player in the second best league in the world at 19. How could people not see it lol
September 15th, 2017 is when I first watched Luka (just in highlights). You could tell he was going to be dynamic offensively. The Handle for a guy 6'7.... I think a lot of people overlooked that. Should have been #1.
How can Skip be always wrong about pretty much everything and still have a job?
" that's a baaad white boy " chuck 😂😂😂😂
I'll take IQ over athleticism any day.
3 words: In. Your. Face.
Damn the music make this epic 😂😂
Who's watching this after Luka hit the game winner against the LA clippers and became one of only three players to hit a 40+ point triple double in the playoffs
2 years later and he improved a lot. I´ve never seen a player that got better each season. He added new parts to his game every summer and this summer he might added a hook shot smh
Shout out to the scout Chris Broussard was talking about.
"Not even a lottery pick" - this statement got oversensationalized.
We need more videos like this in the future. Analysts need to be held accountable for their bad predictions.
The kid has been training and practicing with professionals since he was a teenager.
Idk how anyone could have thought he wasn't going to be a special type of player.
I love how people talked so much about his athleticism, and brought up guys like Bird, Dirk and Nash. Who were crafty white guys that were never the most athletic guys in the NBA, yet were MVP’s and are now HOF’ers. Luka reads defences better than almost any PG in the league today, he knows how to create shots for himself, his shooting is getting better and better, they’re putting pieces around him that will help his defensive lapses. He’s 6’7 playing the point which automatically gives him an advantage over smaller defenders. If they can find a true Center to help them grab boards like Chandler did for the Mavs and a wing Defender along the lines of Marion. Then this team will be a title contender NO DOUBT
I love this vid! I can watch it over and over and it never gets old. Chillz! GO MAVS!!!
I remember my dad and I having a conversation of why Luka shouldn't be a No.1 pick. I remember proving him wrong.
Good job
And he is averaging almost triple double this early of the season
I love these videos. US commentators showing they have no idea of what goes on abroad.
Stephen A has a bias on everything not American he slammed the Knicks for taking Porzingus
You mean not black?
Bird+Nash is 100% true 🔥🔥
Hilarious! Thanks for putting this together, looking forward to his second season.
Watching this after his monster game and buzzer beater! LUKA MAGIC!
He is champion material. He just need the right pieces around him to complement his capabilities.
It's kind of funny the way they talk about Luka at 0:33 is pretty much the exact way they spoke about Tom Brady. Guess we'll see If history repeats itself.
With Luka Break so many Records today bring me Here..
Look at Luka man, so inspirational.
And this was two months ago. Look at him now! Holy smokes!
I just watched him drop a 42 point triple double. These clowns... 🤣🤣🤣
"I don't believe he's a lottery pick" SOMEONE FIRE THAT MAN
Look at 4:18 , even worse
@@aarontan2197 I'm from Spain I saw Luka play before he went to the NBA and I was amazed when they passed on him with the 1st pick let alone the second. Analysts really forget that IQ and fundamentals are more valuable to the game than just pure athlethicism
Bill Simmons was on the hype train before anyone else, months before the draft was one a few people not only talking up Luka but Bill loves Luka well before the draft
I watch NBA and eruropean basketball, no college ball. I had huge expectations when for Ayton when I discovered he was rated higher than Doncic. I thought there was no way Doncic wasn't gonna be first pick so if that guy was rated higher he must have special special. It was so clear Doncic was a real deal to anyone who followed him.
if you look at the guys who were underestimating Luka's talent before he played in the NBA, they are all what you can say media goons. Every player, ex player and as Broussard said scout, knew what this kid was all about, players know that when a 18 years old wins the Euro Legue MVP of the finals you're dealing with prodigy kind of stuff. He just needs to get better defensively and he'll become a champion with the right peaces for sure.
i don t believe a man who Say s i am a guru? for the future don t believe thé hype of a guru
This guy who trash talked him the most is a former player
Luka makes more plays that have you giggling than anyone since Magic and Bird.
Lol look the boy now dominating everyone,, damn triple double every game lol ,, Don Luka will be the face of NBA soon, and he’s from Europe :)
Everybody in Europe knew Luka Doncic would thrive in the NBA. There was no doubt. It was so obvious.
This video proves that these sports analyst don't know what the f*** they talking about. They rip you until some good then they change it up like they been on ya side the whole time smh. 💯
27/9/9 this season so far. Suck on that haters.
Luka is redefining athleticism... Low center of gravity... cant be pushed around...Lengthy Horizontal movement... Stops on a dime... All underrated attributes because the focus is on top speed and vertical
Nice vid! Dont sleep on Luka!
The NBA should thank God Luka Doncic isnt athletic
A wise man once said, "A great athlete will give the crowd oohs and ahhs, but a great basketball player will win you games." That's who Luka Doncic is, a great basketball player. Just how great he becomes will be a factor of time played, injuries sustained and their effects on his overall play, and his work ethic and desire to develop, and his team and individual results.
He's easily the most accomplished European player to enter the league, especially at his age. People queried Larry Bird's athletic ability before he came into the league, and he showed that a slow white guy who could hardly get off the hardwood could still impact the game in a multitude of ways, based off his intelligence, and skill set. I'm not saying that Doncic is the next coming of Larry Bird, at least not until he starts winning championships.
I do think that with Kristaps Porzingis (assuming that KP is healthy) are going to be a great duo for the Mavs, and with the right pieces around them, they will be a force to be reckoned with in the West for the next decade if they stay together.
Crazy thing is even in the after, they still are downplaying how great Luka would become and has become today
He literally proved everyone wrong including me but I did want him to go to the sun's with the number one pick with booker but I honestly know he was gonna be this good
Who was that scout who said Luka is a combination of Nash and Bird? He needs to replace these clowns on TV.
Rashad Phillips should retire from stating basketball opinions. Damn, he had him in the second round? Lol
That last 3 is why Kobe loved him. That was exactly like Kobe vs. Portland....
I never saw player doing things like Luka, so Magic
"experts"
Since when has lack of athleticism stopped highly skilled, high IQ players? Its like these idiot "experts" forgot about Bird, Duncan, Nash, Stockton, Nowitzki, etc....
And Lukas speed and hops is fine since He's got plenty of size at 6'7 - 6'8. High IQ and skills will always prevail over just athleticism in basketball. Duh.
Luka Proving people wrong more then ever
to be fair, despite all of them being wrong initially, most of them admitted that they were wrong about him once the season started. Nothing wrong with changing your opinion, or getting a call wrong. Admitting it is hard to most people who make predictions for a living.
No, they just forget ehat they were saying before. That is hypocrisy.
" i don't give a damn about kid in Europe " .... 2 years later one is averaging 30 points triple double and other is juicing on steroids.
It's baffling that SA Smith still has job.
The problem with USA media is that they lack of knowledge of basket outside USA.. Euroleague is a much tougher competion of NBA, more phisical, every game is a war, scoring overthere is much much difficult to score than NBA, where in regular season basically you play defense poorly at best..In the World Cup Usa has tested what it means a FIBA tournament and despise to have one of the greatest coaching staff in history they finished 7th..NBA is the number 1 league in terms of talent, but Euroleague is much better and tougher in terms of play the game..
True Life they lack knowledge for every sport, they just say things that will make the headlines
I like playing Europe basketball but i like watching nba basketball.
Europe is about the most efficient way to score, NBA is about iso.
You’re going to use this year’s fiba results as an example of basketball in the nba? The nba is the best basketball league in the world. It’s not close. Euroleague is maybe second . The nba where you described the euroleague usually starts in March and ends through the playoffs. The beginning of the regular seasons are about setting and a tone and then coasting but never go all out. That is reserved until later in the season.
But you used fiba this year as an example is laughable. It’s already known the Us didn’t send their best players. Why didn’t you use fiba of 2010 and 2014? Why didn’t you use the Olympics of 2012 and 2016?
StylistecS first of all, i said that NBA is the best league beacuse they have the best players..but the way the game is played Euroleague is far better , the Ball is moved much better and the defence is exellent. When you say maybe is the second league means that you have absolutely no idea of international basketball not only is the second best by far but the best Euroleague teams like real, Barcelona , Efes, CSKA can beat the worst NBA teams without question ..
joe smith, olowokandi, marcus fizer, tim thomas, desmond mason, jason richardson, josh and jr smith, thomas robinson, andrew wiggins all were praised and deemed future superstars or legends before they were drafted and early in their careers but all had/having forgettable to mediocre ok careers.
meanwhile giraffe level athletes dirk tim duncan ginobili and pau gasol became central or key pieces of championship teams.
Many analysts and lame former players think it's all about athleticism... There are many factors to consider: athleticism, winner mentality, leadership, basketball IQ, fundamentals, etc. That's why scouts are the best to tell you the best players out there, they analyze and consider all these things, not these "analysts" who only watch a few UA-cam clips and the only thing they notice is "the guy is slow".
Well done, Trent!
Will cain was like the only guy who was right
i saw him in Spain winning important games in Spanish Liga and Europe Competition with 16-17 years old, all we said this guy is special, the choosen one, but this analyst for sure never saw a game outside NBA.... no professionals
Most of these scouts are freaking tools! At the end of the day athleticism is always a bonus, Raw basketball skill is always gonna get you through games! Yes, Luka ain’t the quickest or the strongest, but the boy got High basketball IQ, and can straight up play! Plain and simple, the eye test is real gentlemen and he passes it! Respect to Luka From NY! ✊
rashad philipps Say IS a guru no ? définition or a guru???