I don't understand how a college freshman is a safer choice than Euroleague MVP. That makes no sense according to the quality of the NCAA vs the Euroleague.
Its upside. His game is really polished. So they dont know how good he'll be in five years, he might hit a plateau. Unlike college players whose games become more refined. Look at Tracey McGrady out of high school or lebron. They were raw athletic talents.
@@jamaica1551 1. Most players of any background fail in the NBA. It's the entire reason scouts exist. 2. He wasn't just a player, he was a NINETEEN YEAR OLD MVP. That's literally the most decorated you can be going into the draft.
Nelson Blake II doesn’t matter..if I draft a mvp of the Canadian football league doesn’t mean he will be good...it’s not like he dropped to the second round he was a 3rd pick..ayton dropped 26 and 18 last two games
Trae Young safer pick? yep, a 6.1 kid who's been plaiyng with kids in college for a year, instead of a guy who's been playing professionally with grown ass men since he was 16, probably the most accomplished teenager in the history of basketball. Youngest player ever to win the euroleague's MVP, second youngest spanish league debutant behind Ricky Rubio, MVP of the spanish league, euroleague champion, spanish league champion, eurobasket champion with his national team Slovenia, u name it... But nah he's European
Mo Z That's exactly why they didn't take Doncic in the draft. He is ready to be the centerpiece for a franchise after playing years in the pros in Europe. While Trae Young is apart of a long term plan for Atlanta. Why draft Doncic when you still have at least 3 years of rebuilding to do? Not saying the Mavericks are all that great right now but they are farther ahead than the Hawks. Plus, the Hawks did get a 1st round draft pick out of the deal as well. All in all I'd say the Hawks got exactly what they wanted in this deal and then some.
@@russh6839 In a way, yes, that's true, and that's exactly why the Cavs drafted Anthony Bennett over Victor Oladipo that year, because Bennett "plays" the position they need, it could in theory work out in the end for the Hawks, but it is still a stupid decision, when you tank you are looking for that otherworldly talent, even if you are not sure about Luka, you should at least be sure that Young will never get there, if player A has a very similar skill set as player B, and Player B is a trancendant player for that skill set, then the chance for A to be just as good, is basically zero, Player B here is Steph Curry.
liu travis nah we got what we wanted, trae a future superstar, I promise luka wouldn’t be doin that in Atlanta, mavs being a way better team reflects really well on luka cause at the end of the day he still does really bad against athletic wings
The thing is that when Luka was playing against 25 and 30 years old in the EuroLeague and Spanish League, winning the Euro Championship tournament with Slovenia and being MVP in the EuroLeague this other rooks were playing against 15 year old in AAU. This dude is not scared because he already went through the tough shots and the big moments. He plays like a veteran because he is one.
Nolay Austin it’s amazing how many people forgot the same thing happen to Blake griffin. Injured on his rookie season, getting ROTY the following year. Ben simmons has more haters from Donovan Mitchell not getting the award.
@@dlxinfinite7098 or its where you go to make an nba roster. Or to play professionally when the nba is on a lockout or something. Its not "barely" professional, its 100% professional and for you to speak of it like theyre so basic that tou could play for them is ignorant. Lets not act like the spanish olympic team that has usually been top contenders and even beat our american team before isnt a team primarily full of euroleague players
@@dlxinfinite7098 euroleague players earn 6 digits, but yeah sure they're not pro. They play on a lower level than the nba but they are definetly pro players.
Warn us about what? That he's an excellent basketball player. I think his draft pick says we already knew that. Hopefully the Mav's will continue to build that team rather than sit on its hands. But, the important thing is that he is here and not there. Right?
@dustin barlow Hmmm....that's not what we hear...they say he was tearing up that league (not hard to do for a elite player)....and how does a Euroleague MVP "ride the pine?"
@@dlxinfinite7098 he won the MVP his last year over there at 18, against fully grown men. He was on the Real Madrid team for a while developing and getting minutes. You expect a 13/14 year old to play full games in the second best basketball league in the world? And injuries can end anyone's career, him coming from Europe doesn't change much
About Luka's start in the NBA and sustainability, "The kind of start you only get if you are not afraid of how messy chasing brilliance can really be." I fuckn love that.
I remember watching a scouting video on Luka before he was drafted. They said one of his weaknesses is creating space and that was gonna be a problem for him in the NBA. LOL
Roooa2312 Why is everyone putting so much stock on rookie seasons? Last I checked a lot can change either direction as players develop. Some players are very good as rookies and never get any better, some are bad as rookies and get way better and sometimes they are good and get way better. We won’t know which case is which for this year’s rookies for at least a couple more years.
@@jacobstrouble6631 yes cus 2 triple doubles happened so many times to a rookie or the fact he is the only one with 30+ point triple double also means he sucks... Good job on your prediction there... You are just as bad as those GMs that passed on him
They didn't believe you because he wasn't brought up in the NCAA, being black or white has nothing to do with it. Which is what the NBA "scouts" only look at: The NCAA. The NBA scouts that look outside, like the Spurs, get some real talent from overseas like Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili, two of the biggest steals in draft history but obvious good players for anyone that has ever seen them play in the Euroleague. And the top teams in the Euroleague are on par with some NBA franchises, Real Madrid even beat some NBA teams in interleague friendlies, some were even teams that had been in the finals playoffs.
Mavs is literally the perfect place for this kid. Great coach, good supportive players that can help Luka to adapt and develop. And of course Dirk. Mavs are less likely to make the playoffs but they are still competing.
Did you not watch the Kings vs. Mavs game? It showed exactly why we shouldn’t have picked Doncic. He can’t keep up with our team’s pace!!! Our game plan is to run the other team off the court, Doncic got exposed for not having the endurance for our game. Bagley fits in nicely with what we want & how we want to play the game
Giannis went from averaging 8ppg in one of the worst leagues in the world to a top 3 nba player it’s not about the talent in the leagues it’s about the time and work they put in when no one is watching. Do they have a will to be great? Them should be the questions GMs should be asking
Well said. The amount of work Giannis has put since his draft is insane. From an incredibly thin, long teenager playing in the 2nd tier Greek league, to today's muscular, freak of an athlete. Unparalleled work ethic. Dirk was the same; having been discovered practically in obscurity, putting the work year after year and ending up one of the greatest in history. Talent alone means nothing, it's all about the work and the mentality. I hope Luka keeps improving, cause the talent sure is there.
In what world was this ever a risk, the dude has been playing against grown men since he was 16 and he won the MVP of the second best league in the world at 18, in what fucking world is drafting someone like that a risk?! The dude was obviously the most prepared and special player in the draft. It's one thing to not take the guy but any GM's who thought this guy was "a risk" to draft, I mean they should just be out of a job.
Espn please stop! The man was the 3rd overall pick stop acting like he slipped out of the lottery. MJ was 3rd overall, Kobe was 13th, Stephen Curry was 7th, it happens get over it!
I think it is not really important which overall pic someone is, Nikola Jokic has been #42 and now between top 5 center in league. Talent is important but also and much more hard working, passion and development in next years. When Giannis came from greece/europe he has been looking starved :D and a average talent in greek league..and take a look now, his athletism and between the best top 10 players in league. Lonzo Ball is in his second season but his numbers and develepoment are not really good, Luka Doncic has after 2,5 months in NBA 200% of Lonzo his stats...Ayton and Young have also much better numbers than Lonzo, seems like Lonzo is not a great talent or lazy, no development : )
@@Jdh120396 hahahahah cmon Bagley potential over Luka are you mad??? Luka potential is top10 all time ,max marvin is a all-star, luka deserves all star as a rookie.
Jeff T I believe that Doncic will be an all-star but Ayton will be better due to his higher ceiling... just cause he’s getting way more media attention now doesn’t mean he will be the best in the end
It’s unbelievable that a team that hired his former coach (the Suns) and a GM who should have tremendous insight on European basketball (Vlade for the Kings) both passed up on Luka. Easily the most talented player of his age to come out of Europe ever.
Luka is not a rookie for me. I know him now since a few years playing in the Euroleague - he is a fantastic player and so modest. Best regards from a small german filmmaker 🎬🇩🇪🎥
this is false no one slept on him but some teams had Ayton and Bagley higher on their draft boards... if u want an example of a player being slept on, look at guys like Donovan Mitchell, Jokic and Booker who picked in the late lottery or later. in fact a lot of teams including the mavericks had him at no. 1 on their draft boards
Just remember Luka was in Euroleague when he was 13 years old and won the Euroleague mvp as well don't sleep on this kid he is a rookie that reads plays like veteran I am not just hopping on the bandwagon two things I want him to improve is having a faster jumper and do more shot creating rather than coming off screen and use sloppy dribbling to put up a shot.
Even today when you see Doncic play not that impressed many times, but then you look at stats and you note that he has 18-20 points, and 6-8 rebounds and assets. He does have a lot of turnovers, but just a rookie in the NBA. He does play well in the clutch.
YEP. Hawks would be selling a ton more seats had they kept Luka. Not sure what they were thinking by taking the extremely slight-of-build, weak defense, streaky Trae Young. Poor Trae. If he becomes anything short of a superstar, it'll be clear the Hawks made a bonehead move.
@@monkeyb1820 Agreed! But the Hawks needed IMMEDIATE scoring, since Dennis Schroeder left.. But Atlanta are like the "Cleveland Browns" of the NBA!! They never draft well & passing on Luka Doncic, was a huge mistake
it sounds like Luka was pretty much a known quantity. The hawks were obsessed with taking Trae Young. Trae has had some good games--but Luka looks like a sure thing. Worst bungling since they bungled their signing of Julius Erving.
The problem that they had back then was everybody kept calling him a "rookie". He was not in the real sense of the word. While all the others "rookies" were just about to play in a mens league (NBA), Donćić was already a real seasoned veteran for years in a "mens" league while he was still a kid AND was the MVP ...AS A KID!
How many EU players came to the draft as MVP players of EUROLEAGUE as 19 years old? So there was no comparison with the rest of EU players at the draft. ESPN and the rest keep forgetting that as 18 years old was chosen on Eurobasket 2017 (Slovenia won a championship with winning every single game on championship with Doncic and Dragic) in the team of 5 best players of Eurobasket championship in the company with Gasol, Porzingis, Dragic... so actually he already played with and against NBA stars as 18 years old so... was he really a risk or mystery? was really a question will his game translate to NBA if he already played with and against current NBA stars and ex NAB stars... at age of 18 years old?
All that means is he's got a lot of mileage on him. And it's been proven he's got very little lateral movement. He's average, nothing special. Calm down.
@@dlxinfinite7098 Becuase he is average he is in the group of the best rookies ever (Larry Bird, Micahel Jordan...), because he is average NBA players from the opposite team after the games shaking hands with him and telling him he is something special, because he is average ESP and their guests saying he is something special... and you.... You are just pure example of less than average understanding the basketball...
@@amobratina2813 LOL....lots of players shake hands with other players. SMH. I'm not calling him trash, but we are not at the halfway point in the Season....and you guys got him in the Hall of Fame. Hype.
@@dlxinfinite7098 Blind, yes you are. Look for NBA Coaches gave those statements, they saw it and heard what was shaking all about, and on the end look for statements by stars as Lebron, Harden, Green, Curry... coaches like Steve Kerr, Mike D'Antoni, Fred Hoiberg. Dave Joerger,... and I think that words by Pippen in this interview should be enough... but as I already said to you "You are just pure example of less than average understanding the basketball... and I will stop talking to you as explaining to stone is worthless.
@@dlxinfinite7098 He he he he what an idiot so you were so bad you were unable to enter NBA and you know much more about basketball than Lebron, Harden, Green, Curry... coaches like Steve Kerr, Mike D'Antoni, Fred Hoiberg. Dave Joerger. Amo Bratina is right your brain - there is none. There is only a big stone. So it really pointless debating with you, you better talk with some doctors on the couch.
I love how the mavs players were already raising their hands evenbefore the ball hit the rim. They just know that magic can happen at any time. Shame they could not pull the win. amazing game though
Juventus FC yep, 7’1 Ewing came at 6’7” Pippen after and almost started swinging a sucker punch or two for disrespecting after the dunk ... ahhhh, the good ol’ NBA ua-cam.com/video/srl2Bwh6A3I/v-deo.html
Being from Europe I was watching the guy before NBA. By the age of 18 helped his team win the gold medal and by the age 19 he was the Euroleague MVP AND Euroleague Finals MVP. I don't undertstand really where the "risk" was..
It's not that European players don't translate. It's the fact the majority of them played basketball at the wrong time. Look at European players and almost all of them can pass, dribble and shoot: the fundamentals. That leads into position less basketball, which the NBA has just recently adopted. I think luka is like the majority of European players, but he entered the league at the perfect time
Ralph Dixon seriously? Luka couldn’t care less. All he wanted was to play in NBA. Not even for the money or glory, but because he was told the best players are there. Chinese would pay him better, but the best players are supposedly in NBA, so he wanted to play with them. Luka is all about the game. And he’s having a ball. The only thing, that’s driving him crazy by now, is losing games. I’m waiting patiently till he figures it out. And when he does, I might just buy that NBA pass and stay up half of the night.
Luka is amazing and is the best rookie right now. But are we going to ignore the fact that for the last 4 games Deandre Ayton has been averaging 24 PTS 66.7 FG% 16.5 REB 1 BLK 1 STL? Luka does deserve a lot of hype but come on give Ayton some love.
I am not. But I have respect for you and your athletes. I will anyway support Doncic and Musa for being ex-Yugoslawian sons. Greetings from an Kosovo-Albanian.
ESPN pushing Doncic to ROY just like they are pushing AD to the Lakers. Doncic has garnered more attention than all other rookies combined, Ayton for example is having a killer month and you wouldn’t know it by watching ESPN
Sac need to start Bagley he's great Ayton is a walking double double Trae is showing flashes of being a Steph Jackson is a Superstar Knox is great This was a good draft
Suns shouldn't be blamed for taking Ayton, he's going to be a beast and big men are hard to find. But Sac, ATL and even Mem, because they could have made the same trade as Dallas, all are pathetic front offices.
That's a little over the top most of the rookies have been performing pretty well and they can't be blamed for that. Before the draft happened I wanted luka to go to the mavs as I thought they had the structure for him to succeed, they had a great coach, they have a great mentor in Dirk it was really the perfect landing spot
Not only has he more experience since he has been playing professional for 4 years (since he was 15). But he also has international experience too playing for his country. College players while good cannot compete with that experience.
Because GMs are just dumb. Everyone and their mother saw Luca play and said he would be good. But GMs and some fans were so hell bent on saying he's not athletic, and only played in the Euro League. Which made no sense. His ability to aid others while being a good scorer was elite for a rookie.
Gabriel Carrasco They are used to watching black athletes and using the same criteria, except it isn’t working on Luka who doesn’t need that much athleticism to get the ball in and use good judgment on the court. Form and quickness don’t matter if your shots are falling!
The thing is as well, with the training programs that he'll likely be working with, he'll get stronger, develop quicker lateral foot speed and cap out his athleticism (gotta remember he's only 19 and look at how much Giannis managed to change his body, not saying he'll do it to the same extent but still).
@@cryptidian3530 it's not American pride..I'm not American but the Americans dominate the sport they have the best players and they won 16 of the 18 basketball Olympics..
I don't understand how a college freshman is a safer choice than Euroleague MVP. That makes no sense according to the quality of the NCAA vs the Euroleague.
Its upside. His game is really polished. So they dont know how good he'll be in five years, he might hit a plateau. Unlike college players whose games become more refined. Look at Tracey McGrady out of high school or lebron. They were raw athletic talents.
Cuz most Europeans fail in the nba
FACTS HES A MVP
@@jamaica1551 1. Most players of any background fail in the NBA. It's the entire reason scouts exist. 2. He wasn't just a player, he was a NINETEEN YEAR OLD MVP. That's literally the most decorated you can be going into the draft.
Nelson Blake II doesn’t matter..if I draft a mvp of the Canadian football league doesn’t mean he will be good...it’s not like he dropped to the second round he was a 3rd pick..ayton dropped 26 and 18 last two games
Scottie's voice makes me feels like my head is vibrating or something
@Angry Near yeah I am wearing my earphones haha
lol nigga get all the bitches with that deep ass voice ...oh my bad about larsa
@@GildedWarrior331 😂😂😂
Gintoki sakata you funny bro😭😭😭🤦🏾♂️
He is the Barry White/Luther Vandross of the NBA :-) "bedroom voice"
Trae Young safer pick? yep, a 6.1 kid who's been plaiyng with kids in college for a year, instead of a guy who's been playing professionally with grown ass men since he was 16, probably the most accomplished teenager in the history of basketball. Youngest player ever to win the euroleague's MVP, second youngest spanish league debutant behind Ricky Rubio, MVP of the spanish league, euroleague champion, spanish league champion, eurobasket champion with his national team Slovenia, u name it...
But nah he's European
Agree 100% same with porizingas
Mo Z That's exactly why they didn't take Doncic in the draft. He is ready to be the centerpiece for a franchise after playing years in the pros in Europe. While Trae Young is apart of a long term plan for Atlanta. Why draft Doncic when you still have at least 3 years of rebuilding to do? Not saying the Mavericks are all that great right now but they are farther ahead than the Hawks. Plus, the Hawks did get a 1st round draft pick out of the deal as well. All in all I'd say the Hawks got exactly what they wanted in this deal and then some.
These scouts are hella racist for going with an American dude than a European champion.
The last few top busts are american/canadian btw.
@@russh6839 In a way, yes, that's true, and that's exactly why the Cavs drafted Anthony Bennett over Victor Oladipo that year, because Bennett "plays" the position they need, it could in theory work out in the end for the Hawks, but it is still a stupid decision, when you tank you are looking for that otherworldly talent, even if you are not sure about Luka, you should at least be sure that Young will never get there, if player A has a very similar skill set as player B, and Player B is a trancendant player for that skill set, then the chance for A to be just as good, is basically zero, Player B here is Steph Curry.
liu travis nah we got what we wanted, trae a future superstar, I promise luka wouldn’t be doin that in Atlanta, mavs being a way better team reflects really well on luka cause at the end of the day he still does really bad against athletic wings
The thing is that when Luka was playing against 25 and 30 years old in the EuroLeague and Spanish League, winning the Euro Championship tournament with Slovenia and being MVP in the EuroLeague this other rooks were playing against 15 year old in AAU. This dude is not scared because he already went through the tough shots and the big moments. He plays like a veteran because he is one.
Just give him the the ROY award already
Nolay Austin hell naw
Ayton is making a good push and will probably win Rookie of the month
Nolay Austin it’s amazing how many people forgot the same thing happen to Blake griffin. Injured on his rookie season, getting ROTY the following year. Ben simmons has more haters from Donovan Mitchell not getting the award.
Insert overused ben simmons joke
Nolay Austin Masterbaited. Doncic Kong for league MVP before age of 25. Dude is 19.
"He came in and looked like a professional player since day 1"
He IS a professional player. Idk why people cant just understand that concept
Xaviér Smith facebook.com/groups/967348520070287/
Euroleague is barely professional. It's where you go when you can no longer make a NBA roster.
@@dlxinfinite7098 or its where you go to make an nba roster. Or to play professionally when the nba is on a lockout or something. Its not "barely" professional, its 100% professional and for you to speak of it like theyre so basic that tou could play for them is ignorant. Lets not act like the spanish olympic team that has usually been top contenders and even beat our american team before isnt a team primarily full of euroleague players
@@dlxinfinite7098 It's also when you gone there you're not eligible for college teams anymore because it's a FUCKING PROFESIONAL LEAGUE. Get educated!
@@dlxinfinite7098 euroleague players earn 6 digits, but yeah sure they're not pro. They play on a lower level than the nba but they are definetly pro players.
We (European fans) really REALLY tried to warn you, but y'all didn't listen.
Warn us about what? That he's an excellent basketball player. I think his draft pick says we already knew that. Hopefully the Mav's will continue to build that team rather than sit on its hands.
But, the important thing is that he is here and not there. Right?
www.complex.com/sports/2012/06/the-25-biggest-foreign-busts-in-nba-draft-history
Miggz 1Bay how can you possibly know he doesn’t
@Roguish Miggz boi u stupid
Elec the white man didn’t listen
Im Suns fan.
Im not saying Ayton was a bad pick but if you are going to hire Luka's former coach and not draft luka....what were you thinking ?
True it’s so sad cause they won’t get another number 1 pick any time soon
And this idiots still trying to prove that ayton is a -'good' pick. LMAO
Idiots organization
Ayton was a bad pick compared to Luka
@@carlomacale9254 Ayton should have gone #2 in the 2018 draft
3:35 Dunked on Patrick Ewing really hard 😂
Best poster ever , d Wade over vareajao maybe , but top 2
The disrespect of the jump
Whoever wrote that needs to be fired!
$$$ They gotta start always having these little rid bits for players after the regular honors, can you imagine Rodman’s? $$$
I'm dead
Doncic is special man he aint the quickest but he’s elusive and skilled he’ll be averaging 23/7/7 starting from next season to be honest
You are starting a franchise, who'd you pick out of Jayson Tatum, Donavon Mitchell, Or Luca Doncic?
The Greatest Of Our Generation I would choose Luka
The Greatest Of Our Generation doncic .. more skilled and a better passer than the other two
Let's wait and see. Teams and scouts adjust well. I've seen too many sophomore slumps take place i.e D Mitchell
@@xxplosive7945 he was shooting really poor last year as well , was a rookie so nobody cared that much
Who's here after Luka's game winner against the Clippers?
it's dumb for anyone to think a 19 yr old baller doesn't have any room to grow.......
Rob Diaz It has to do with them not knowing the game and believing video game ratings and nonsense like that
Rob Diaz facebook.com/groups/967348520070287/
Or.....foot and ankle injury could end his career early....the boy got a lot of miles on him already
@dustin barlow
Hmmm....that's not what we hear...they say he was tearing up that league (not hard to do for a elite player)....and how does a Euroleague MVP "ride the pine?"
@@dlxinfinite7098 he won the MVP his last year over there at 18, against fully grown men. He was on the Real Madrid team for a while developing and getting minutes. You expect a 13/14 year old to play full games in the second best basketball league in the world? And injuries can end anyone's career, him coming from Europe doesn't change much
Luca has a great chance of Beating Ben for ROTY
Hes already better than Simmons
@@anirudh8665 ben simmons
ben simmons is dogshit compared to doncic lmao
W, saw some Sixers fan get triggered by a Simmons joke haha
BIG HUNGRY stop using the same joke
dallas are lucky to have doncic, how fitting that hes in nba with this probably being dirks last season
We got kp now too
I feel sorry for you if you're from Atlanta. The Braves, Falcons and the Hawks.... They all suck 😂😂 😂
Jeremy Sargent Doncic is the Center piece. KP is like the side
“Dunked on Patrick Ewing really hard” 😂😂😂
LOL 😂
Nobody:
Scottie Pippen's Curriculum Vitae: Dunked on Patrick Ewing really hard 3:30
it's valid tho, companies lap up the idea of people dunking on Ewing
Ha hilarious
11/21/2019, who's here after he demolished gsw in 29 minutes?
Luka is the most skilled player ever! He's got every trick in the book
Are u high?😂
Who’s here after luka being in the mvp conversation
About Luka's start in the NBA and sustainability, "The kind of start you only get if you are not afraid of how messy chasing brilliance can really be." I fuckn love that.
Damn the release was 0.2 of a second. Doncic is special.
@@dlxinfinite7098 aight, dude. I'll listen to you over HoF players and other sport figures. You clearly have it all figured out. Are you Vlade?
@@brothernature4057
Homie....he's aight, but the hype around him is just ridiculous.
People calling him "greatest rookie ever"..." MVP"...."HOF"
DLX the Abstract he is a MVP he will be a Hall of Famer based solely on his Euro league Career and he’s having the best rookie year since Bron
@@Lsu518
We don't count Euroleague. I'm talking NBA level MVP.
DLX the Abstract still a mvp
I remember watching a scouting video on Luka before he was drafted. They said one of his weaknesses is creating space and that was gonna be a problem for him in the NBA.
LOL
He’s already the rookie of the year
Can’t believe we got him. Just when we needed some new blood with Dirk retiring in comes Luka and Kristaps.
Mainly Luka. He’s the face of the team, the franchise pillar, unarguably the best player and very young
Scottie you break my subwoofer again!😂🤣
I said this guy should of gone number 1, and people thought I was crazy. but they didn't believe me cuz he wasn't black....
Jacobs Trouble And we should care about what racists like you think? 👎👎🏻👎🏼👎🏽👎🏾👎🏾
Roooa2312 Why is everyone putting so much stock on rookie seasons? Last I checked a lot can change either direction as players develop. Some players are very good as rookies and never get any better, some are bad as rookies and get way better and sometimes they are good and get way better. We won’t know which case is which for this year’s rookies for at least a couple more years.
@@jacobstrouble6631 czekoslovakia???? Do you mean slovenia? Actual eurocup winners
@@jacobstrouble6631 yes cus 2 triple doubles happened so many times to a rookie or the fact he is the only one with 30+ point triple double also means he sucks... Good job on your prediction there... You are just as bad as those GMs that passed on him
They didn't believe you because he wasn't brought up in the NCAA, being black or white has nothing to do with it. Which is what the NBA "scouts" only look at: The NCAA. The NBA scouts that look outside, like the Spurs, get some real talent from overseas like Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili, two of the biggest steals in draft history but obvious good players for anyone that has ever seen them play in the Euroleague. And the top teams in the Euroleague are on par with some NBA franchises, Real Madrid even beat some NBA teams in interleague friendlies, some were even teams that had been in the finals playoffs.
Folks are forgetting that HE’S BEEN A PROFESSIONAL FOR YEARS. He’s been playing against grown men for awhile.
Mavs is literally the perfect place for this kid. Great coach, good supportive players that can help Luka to adapt and develop. And of course Dirk. Mavs are less likely to make the playoffs but they are still competing.
My SAC Kings were so stupid letting this kid pass them, I KNEW THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Nah bagley game is better for you guys especially with fox and buddy
shadowguy20004 bagley is great
Did you not watch the Kings vs. Mavs game? It showed exactly why we shouldn’t have picked Doncic. He can’t keep up with our team’s pace!!! Our game plan is to run the other team off the court, Doncic got exposed for not having the endurance for our game. Bagley fits in nicely with what we want & how we want to play the game
shadowguy20004 nah Bagley is a straight up beast
Purple Talk well said.
Luka, keep on rolling! You are the best. Greetings from Latvia.
We miss you Rachel 😭😭😭
He got better as the year progressed. It's gonna be a fun second season for Lulu and Porzingis.
Giannis went from averaging 8ppg in one of the worst leagues in the world to a top 3 nba player it’s not about the talent in the leagues it’s about the time and work they put in when no one is watching. Do they have a will to be great? Them should be the questions GMs should be asking
You're right but he isn't top 3
@@glassjabari umm...yes he is
Lil Dagga Well obviously every young player is going to say to the GM that they have the will to be great. So that would be a pointless question tbh
bad comparison. It took Giannis like 5 years to get to the point Luka is at at 19...
Well said. The amount of work Giannis has put since his draft is insane. From an incredibly thin, long teenager playing in the 2nd tier Greek league, to today's muscular, freak of an athlete. Unparalleled work ethic. Dirk was the same; having been discovered practically in obscurity, putting the work year after year and ending up one of the greatest in history.
Talent alone means nothing, it's all about the work and the mentality. I hope Luka keeps improving, cause the talent sure is there.
In what world was this ever a risk, the dude has been playing against grown men since he was 16 and he won the MVP of the second best league in the world at 18, in what fucking world is drafting someone like that a risk?! The dude was obviously the most prepared and special player in the draft. It's one thing to not take the guy but any GM's who thought this guy was "a risk" to draft, I mean they should just be out of a job.
Espn please stop! The man was the 3rd overall pick stop acting like he slipped out of the lottery. MJ was 3rd overall, Kobe was 13th, Stephen Curry was 7th, it happens get over it!
KOBE was the 16 th pick bro
I think it is not really important which overall pic someone is, Nikola Jokic has been #42 and now between top 5 center in league. Talent is important but also and much more hard working, passion and development in next years. When Giannis came from greece/europe he has been looking starved :D and a average talent in greek league..and take a look now, his athletism and between the best top 10 players in league.
Lonzo Ball is in his second season but his numbers and develepoment are not really good, Luka Doncic has after 2,5 months in NBA 200% of Lonzo his stats...Ayton and Young have also much better numbers than Lonzo, seems like Lonzo is not a great talent or lazy, no development : )
@@POKRETBAND Giannis' athleticism was never in doubt, it was the skill level, and the fact he didn't play much.
None of them were discriminated against like luka was tho
@@DwadeFL4SHMV3 an opinion isn't discrimination. He still went top 5.
lmao scottie's description
"dunked on patrick ewing really hard"
Mfs act like he was drafted in the second round he was top 5 in the first like relax
You don't know what you are talking about he was the most proven player in the draft. Marvin Bagley bum ass over him cmon now
He shoulda went number 1
Enea Buraku Luka didn’t want to play in Sac Town
@@Jdh120396 hahahahah cmon Bagley potential over Luka are you mad??? Luka potential is top10 all time ,max marvin is a all-star, luka deserves all star as a rookie.
@@lilsunny8613 who cares what he wants it's the team's choice.
Cuban might make a lot of stupid decisions, but his decision to trade trey young (and cam reddish) for luka was the perfect choice
And 4 years later he is still making people regret passing up on him. Dude just dropped a 60/20/10 burger. A record.
This guy is a treasure all the way around !
Luka is just amazing and so long as he's in a system that can make him thrive he'll be one of the best no doubt.
The ghost of Darko Milicic still looms large in the minds of GMs across the league.
Yeah, but players like Kwami, Olawukandi, Anthony Bennett and such get a free pass. Only when they are Euros is it a "real" bust.
This is what a Generational Rookie looks like unfolding in our Eyes. I am blessed to see Jordan, Lebron, Curry and now Luka.
man cant imagine if Pippen and mutombo talk at same time their voice gonna be best ESMR on youtube ever ! ! ! ! !
As a Hawks fan, I'm glad we got Trae but keeping Luka would've been amazing
@TV World inc "Atlanta are racists"
Luka doesn't have a ceiling, ceiling has Luka.
I would neck if i passed on a generational talent like Luka Doncic will be the face of nba pretty soon!
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It's the experience and confidence he has that is helping him to achieve this accomplishments
At the end of the season he averaged 21.2 points 7.8 rebounds and 6 assists
I want Scottie Pippen to record an audiobook or something.
Ayton putting up 24pts and 16reb in last 4 games but we ain’t ever going to hear about it
He need to do it year round lmao.
They say this like the whole league passed on him and not like 4 gms
Dusy Pettis
4 GMs passing on the best player in a draft is pretty sad
Jeff T I believe that Doncic will be an all-star but Ayton will be better due to his higher ceiling... just cause he’s getting way more media attention now doesn’t mean he will be the best in the end
Nope.....the grizzlies didn’t regret at all. Choosing jaren jackson jr was an excellent decision
2 GMs passed on him. He was picked 3rd!
@@DKwari but he was traded to the Mavs so it is kinda like 4 considering JJJ went to Memphis
LOL "dunked on patrick ewing really hard 3:32"
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I laugh so hard as well when i saw that hahahahahaha
It’s unbelievable that a team that hired his former coach (the Suns) and a GM who should have tremendous insight on European basketball (Vlade for the Kings) both passed up on Luka. Easily the most talented player of his age to come out of Europe ever.
The kings made the worse mistake to be fair
I just love Scottie's voice. i wish to have that when i grow up.
Luka is not a rookie for me. I know him now since a few years playing in the Euroleague - he is a fantastic player and so modest. Best regards from a small german filmmaker 🎬🇩🇪🎥
“Dunked on Patrick Ewing really hard”💀
this is false no one slept on him but some teams had Ayton and Bagley higher on their draft boards... if u want an example of a player being slept on, look at guys like Donovan Mitchell, Jokic and Booker who picked in the late lottery or later. in fact a lot of teams including the mavericks had him at no. 1 on their draft boards
Just remember Luka was in Euroleague when he was 13 years old and won the Euroleague mvp as well don't sleep on this kid he is a rookie that reads plays like veteran I am not just hopping on the bandwagon two things I want him to improve is having a faster jumper and do more shot creating rather than coming off screen and use sloppy dribbling to put up a shot.
Even today when you see Doncic play not that impressed many times, but then you look at stats and you note that he has 18-20 points, and 6-8 rebounds and assets. He does have a lot of turnovers, but just a rookie in the NBA. He does play well in the clutch.
The Atlanta Hawks gotta feel STUPID, trading Luka Doncic to the Mavs!! Barring Injury, This kid is the FUTURE, of the Mavs & the NBA!!
YEP. Hawks would be selling a ton more seats had they kept Luka. Not sure what they were thinking by taking the extremely slight-of-build, weak defense, streaky Trae Young.
Poor Trae. If he becomes anything short of a superstar, it'll be clear the Hawks made a bonehead move.
@@monkeyb1820 Agreed! But the Hawks needed IMMEDIATE scoring, since Dennis Schroeder left.. But Atlanta are like the "Cleveland Browns" of the NBA!! They never draft well & passing on Luka Doncic, was a huge mistake
it sounds like Luka was pretty much a known quantity. The hawks were obsessed with taking Trae Young. Trae has had some good games--but Luka looks like a sure thing. Worst bungling since they bungled their signing of Julius Erving.
I think Dallas would go all in just to get Luka from Hawks. They will trade the entire team just to get him and that leave Atlanta NO choice. Lol
It's absolutely disgrace that these GMs are paid millions yet couldn't even select a clear Hall of Famer. FIRE THEM ALL!
The problem that they had back then was everybody kept calling him a "rookie". He was not in the real sense of the word. While all the others "rookies" were just about to play in a mens league (NBA), Donćić was already a real seasoned veteran for years in a "mens" league while he was still a kid AND was the MVP ...AS A KID!
How many EU players came to the draft as MVP players of EUROLEAGUE as 19 years old? So there was no comparison with the rest of EU players at the draft. ESPN and the rest keep forgetting that as 18 years old was chosen on Eurobasket 2017 (Slovenia won a championship with winning every single game on championship with Doncic and Dragic) in the team of 5 best players of Eurobasket championship in the company with Gasol, Porzingis, Dragic... so actually he already played with and against NBA stars as 18 years old so... was he really a risk or mystery? was really a question will his game translate to NBA if he already played with and against current NBA stars and ex NAB stars... at age of 18 years old?
All that means is he's got a lot of mileage on him. And it's been proven he's got very little lateral movement.
He's average, nothing special. Calm down.
@@dlxinfinite7098 Becuase he is average he is in the group of the best rookies ever (Larry Bird, Micahel Jordan...), because he is average NBA players from the opposite team after the games shaking hands with him and telling him he is something special, because he is average ESP and their guests saying he is something special... and you.... You are just pure example of less than average understanding the basketball...
@@amobratina2813
LOL....lots of players shake hands with other players. SMH.
I'm not calling him trash, but we are not at the halfway point in the Season....and you guys got him in the Hall of Fame.
Hype.
@@dlxinfinite7098 Blind, yes you are. Look for NBA Coaches gave those statements, they saw it and heard what was shaking all about, and on the end look for statements by stars as Lebron, Harden, Green, Curry... coaches like Steve Kerr, Mike D'Antoni, Fred Hoiberg. Dave Joerger,... and I think that words by Pippen in this interview should be enough... but as I already said to you "You are just pure example of less than average understanding the basketball... and I will stop talking to you as explaining to stone is worthless.
@@dlxinfinite7098 He he he he what an idiot so you were so bad you were unable to enter NBA and you know much more about basketball than Lebron, Harden, Green, Curry... coaches like Steve Kerr, Mike D'Antoni, Fred Hoiberg. Dave Joerger. Amo Bratina is right your brain - there is none. There is only a big stone. So it really pointless debating with you, you better talk with some doctors on the couch.
Listening to pippens voice over jbl headset... Boom boom bass...
Come join Dallas free agents !
Rachel’s intro was poetic. The most beautiful I’ve heard her talk. Really brought out her features
Dallas loves international.
They always love to explore talents internationally
Apparently Kings coach had little to say on draft day.
masai ujiridid the same. drafted all these players from overseas and look at them now. raptors are deep
Rookie of the Year he got skills.Future NBA allstar.
I love how the mavs players were already raising their hands evenbefore the ball hit the rim. They just know that magic can happen at any time. Shame they could not pull the win. amazing game though
"Dunked on Patrick Ewing really hard" :D :D
Juventus FC yep, 7’1 Ewing came at 6’7” Pippen after and almost started swinging a sucker punch or two for disrespecting after the dunk ... ahhhh, the good ol’ NBA
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The FIBA is for real. So much talent coming out of especially Serbia, Slovenia, Kroatia, Spain, France, Germany and Greece.
Being from Europe I was watching the guy before NBA. By the age of 18 helped his team win the gold medal and by the age 19 he was the Euroleague MVP AND Euroleague Finals MVP. I don't undertstand really where the "risk" was..
Watch out for Rodi Kurucs of Brooklyn.
Rachel's monologues only get longer and more unnecessary. Video starts at 3:20.
I'm calling that she is getting ready to move on to another job. Essentially, showing what she got.
This Bitch always likes to talk too much and wanna be the spot light rather let the NBA legends talk
It's her show. She makes the show better.
Ben Harris she be taking slick jabs to. Like at MJ in the beginning
Her makeup looks weird today.
Man…i miss Rachel Nichols’ monologue. Now we get Skip, Perk, and Stephen A.
Only two passed on him..it’s not like ayton sucks he just put up 26 and 18 last night
It's not that European players don't translate. It's the fact the majority of them played basketball at the wrong time. Look at European players and almost all of them can pass, dribble and shoot: the fundamentals. That leads into position less basketball, which the NBA has just recently adopted. I think luka is like the majority of European players, but he entered the league at the perfect time
@@EL_XO darko, Dirk, kristaps, luka, gallinari, darko milicic, toni kukoc. A lot of European players can pass dribble and shoot lol
Wasn’t he drafted 3rd overall? I thought that “show everybody who didn’t pick me” mentality was meant for people who slipped to later in the draft
Ralph Dixon you’re joking right? If someone gets drafted 2nd overall they use that as fuel 🔥 it’s called being competitive
He was but in a predetermined trade to dallas that had the 5th pick.
Ralph Dixon seriously? Luka couldn’t care less. All he wanted was to play in NBA. Not even for the money or glory, but because he was told the best players are there. Chinese would pay him better, but the best players are supposedly in NBA, so he wanted to play with them. Luka is all about the game. And he’s having a ball. The only thing, that’s driving him crazy by now, is losing games. I’m waiting patiently till he figures it out. And when he does, I might just buy that NBA pass and stay up half of the night.
Hawks only drafted him at 3rd to make that trade with Dallas work; they had no intention of actually going with him
If it's any coincidence, MJ was also drafted as 3rd pick. It didn't stop the blame game on the team (Portland) that passed on him.
Luka is amazing and is the best rookie right now. But are we going to ignore the fact that for the last 4 games Deandre Ayton has been averaging 24 PTS 66.7 FG% 16.5 REB 1 BLK
1 STL? Luka does deserve a lot of hype but come on give Ayton some love.
and here we are witnessing Luka Magic in the NBA Finals! Making history and all of us MAvs fans are ready for it! #MFFL
Who's here from Slovenia 🇸🇮
me
I am not. But I have respect for you and your athletes. I will anyway support Doncic and Musa for being ex-Yugoslawian sons. Greetings from an Kosovo-Albanian.
My Dad is from the Dolenska region near Sevnica. Ya'll have to try some CVICEK Vino!!! ))
Luka for all star
Lee Wiks yes!
ESPN pushing Doncic to ROY just like they are pushing AD to the Lakers. Doncic has garnered more attention than all other rookies combined, Ayton for example is having a killer month and you wouldn’t know it by watching ESPN
Scotty sounds like ted williams..the golden voice.
Theres nothing risky about taking the euroleague mvp
Sac need to start Bagley he's great
Ayton is a walking double double
Trae is showing flashes of being a Steph
Jackson is a Superstar
Knox is great
This was a good draft
Moochavel No kidding... This is a trash narrative meant to belittle hardworking people who manage risk differently. To what end... none.
@@doctordrewl they be trolling for comments and views
Moochavel miles bridges and shai too
not it wasnt stfu punk
Trae ain't steph please steph isn't a pullup shooter
Truer words have never been spoken! Ms. Rachel Nichols is very good at her job!!! Great analysis, keep up the good work!
Great analysis on Luka not fearing failure, that's so important!
Suns shouldn't be blamed for taking Ayton, he's going to be a beast and big men are hard to find. But Sac, ATL and even Mem, because they could have made the same trade as Dallas, all are pathetic front offices.
He is too slow for Sacramento they play a different way
@@jamaica1551 You're fuckiing dumb
For a player like that, you take them and adjust the way your team plays to accommodate them as well
That's a little over the top most of the rookies have been performing pretty well and they can't be blamed for that. Before the draft happened I wanted luka to go to the mavs as I thought they had the structure for him to succeed, they had a great coach, they have a great mentor in Dirk it was really the perfect landing spot
Bo Rood Atlanta is rebuilding hard. We don’t need a centerpiece right now
"That was probably the easiest dunk I ever did" - Scottie Pippen on dunking over Ewing.
Not only has he more experience since he has been playing professional for 4 years (since he was 15). But he also has international experience too playing for his country. College players while good cannot compete with that experience.
luka gonna be new face of NBA in the future
Doncic will become NBA’s face in the next 20 years
Nick Ronaldo 20? He’ll be 39
Let's try 5 LOL
More like 5 bruh
"for" the next 20 years*
Yep.... Just like Darko and Porzingus, huh?
3 years at best. Foot and ankle injuries.
Because GMs are just dumb. Everyone and their mother saw Luca play and said he would be good. But GMs and some fans were so hell bent on saying he's not athletic, and only played in the Euro League. Which made no sense. His ability to aid others while being a good scorer was elite for a rookie.
Gabriel Carrasco They are used to watching black athletes and using the same criteria, except it isn’t working on Luka who doesn’t need that much athleticism to get the ball in and use good judgment on the court. Form and quickness don’t matter if your shots are falling!
Quiet down only two passed on them and they both got great players
The thing is as well, with the training programs that he'll likely be working with, he'll get stronger, develop quicker lateral foot speed and cap out his athleticism (gotta remember he's only 19 and look at how much Giannis managed to change his body, not saying he'll do it to the same extent but still).
It's because they want home grown athletes. American pride and all that bullshit. And here's the result.
@@cryptidian3530 it's not American pride..I'm not American but the Americans dominate the sport they have the best players and they won 16 of the 18 basketball Olympics..
All these people saying luka was a safe pick. Hindsight is 20/20 I don’t think anyone thought he’d be this good.
Now all of us guys here in Europe can't stop smilin' with the words "I told you so" written all over our faces...
"Dunked on Ewing really Hard" lmao