Running a top dot simply gives more utility than a canted dot. While not as good as running a full sized dot, it does afford you more magnification while also giving a parallax free true 1x. It allows a solution for night vision, which is the primary function, yes. But it's not limited to just that in role. It offers a close quarters solution for magnified optics. Keeping your head more upright improves your peripheral vision over dropping your head. It's also much faster on transitions to simply raise your head versus tilting the whole platform, which has a risk of you losing the dot. Adjusting your zero is just one facet of that, and moves it from a close quarters only solution to something akin to a 36 yard zero, expanding its utility. With both dot and scope being in-line with bore, it also makes lining your scope up at long range faster. Cover target with dot, and your scope is less than a foot off in height even at a thousand yards. If mechanical offset is a concern at close range, tilt your platform inboard and aim with your non dominant eye. Shifts offset from -4.5" vertical, to -2.25" vertical and -2.25" horizontal. You can also do this in prone, if raising your head to meet the dot isn't an option. The only downside I've found is that you lose some contact on your cheek weld, which can give the perception of more recoil, which is magnified by the dot being positioned higher and more forward. I've found this issue has virtually disappeared with training, however, and has greatly improved my recoil control overall as a result. It does slightly increase the risk of your platform snagging while on sling against your body, however I'd argue less so than a canted dot, as everything is still flat relative to your body. I've found this works well for me. However, everyone is different. I do recommend that you guys try it, though. I've even taken to running it on my bolt actions, and it has made a big difference for the reasons listed above.
You should also copy and paste it into the backup channels... Absolute gun rights... CCW Training PA Although if you just do a general search of the name of this video, the other channel should pop up. The video has also been copied on the alternate platforms Rumble, Odysee, Bitchu, ugetube, gunstreamer, utreon.... although I don't know if you want to do that much work tracking all of them down... lol
Thanks for posting this btw! And the guy below me is correct, night vision is the primary function for this, but nobody really talks about best zero for the top dot. It serves more than one function. ^_^
Whenever I have an issue with my AR15 I search your channel because you probably made a video on it. In this case I am interested in mounting a red dot on top of my LPVO and on top of my 24 inch barreled AR's scope.
I'm glad the video was useful. Here is a link to another video with a different solution that might also work for you. ua-cam.com/video/n2qesUdhfZY/v-deo.htmlsi=pNaznFYiFJpCLduf
The reason for the RDS is night vision. I run an lpvo with a 12 o'clock T2 strictly for passive NV. The more I use it the more I like the height. I've found myself using the dot more and more for shooting and not even tucking my head in to use the scope. My eyes are garbage so I can't rely on the dot for critters. The UA-camr kinetic consulting also has an extensive video on this topic I'll find it and add the name of the video below
I apologize it wasn't kinetic consulting. Although he has really good info on night vision and accessories. The video i was referencing is Deltathirtyfour : TOP vs SIDE canted for for your acog I know it says acog but you're really close to the same heights.
Yep, that's why I started running the top dot, but nobody really talks about the zero with it. I started playing around with which zero would be best, and found 65-75 yards gives a very flat point of impact shift as a combat zero as well. It's particularly effective on SPRs, using the magnified optic for longer shots (ie 300+) I'll post an actual comment for pin when I get a few minutes. Fantastic video, btw! Thanks for putting this out.
Running a top dot simply gives more utility than a canted dot.
While not as good as running a full sized dot, it does afford you more magnification while also giving a parallax free true 1x.
It allows a solution for night vision, which is the primary function, yes. But it's not limited to just that in role.
It offers a close quarters solution for magnified optics. Keeping your head more upright improves your peripheral vision over dropping your head. It's also much faster on transitions to simply raise your head versus tilting the whole platform, which has a risk of you losing the dot.
Adjusting your zero is just one facet of that, and moves it from a close quarters only solution to something akin to a 36 yard zero, expanding its utility.
With both dot and scope being in-line with bore, it also makes lining your scope up at long range faster. Cover target with dot, and your scope is less than a foot off in height even at a thousand yards.
If mechanical offset is a concern at close range, tilt your platform inboard and aim with your non dominant eye. Shifts offset from -4.5" vertical, to -2.25" vertical and -2.25" horizontal.
You can also do this in prone, if raising your head to meet the dot isn't an option.
The only downside I've found is that you lose some contact on your cheek weld, which can give the perception of more recoil, which is magnified by the dot being positioned higher and more forward. I've found this issue has virtually disappeared with training, however, and has greatly improved my recoil control overall as a result.
It does slightly increase the risk of your platform snagging while on sling against your body, however I'd argue less so than a canted dot, as everything is still flat relative to your body.
I've found this works well for me. However, everyone is different. I do recommend that you guys try it, though.
I've even taken to running it on my bolt actions, and it has made a big difference for the reasons listed above.
Excellent post with additional information. Thank you for sharing this information here!
You should also copy and paste it into the backup channels...
Absolute gun rights...
CCW Training PA
Although if you just do a general search of the name of this video, the other channel should pop up.
The video has also been copied on the alternate platforms Rumble, Odysee, Bitchu, ugetube, gunstreamer, utreon.... although I don't know if you want to do that much work tracking all of them down... lol
Thanks for posting this btw! And the guy below me is correct, night vision is the primary function for this, but nobody really talks about best zero for the top dot.
It serves more than one function. ^_^
Awesome. I had not thought of that with the night vision. Learning something new everyday.
Whenever I have an issue with my AR15 I search your channel because you probably made a video on it. In this case I am interested in mounting a red dot on top of my LPVO and on top of my 24 inch barreled AR's scope.
I'm glad the video was useful. Here is a link to another video with a different solution that might also work for you.
ua-cam.com/video/n2qesUdhfZY/v-deo.htmlsi=pNaznFYiFJpCLduf
The reason for the RDS is night vision. I run an lpvo with a 12 o'clock T2 strictly for passive NV. The more I use it the more I like the height. I've found myself using the dot more and more for shooting and not even tucking my head in to use the scope. My eyes are garbage so I can't rely on the dot for critters. The UA-camr kinetic consulting also has an extensive video on this topic I'll find it and add the name of the video below
I apologize it wasn't kinetic consulting. Although he has really good info on night vision and accessories.
The video i was referencing is
Deltathirtyfour : TOP vs SIDE canted for for your acog
I know it says acog but you're really close to the same heights.
Thank you very much for that information. I have not thought about the night vision capability.
Yep, that's why I started running the top dot, but nobody really talks about the zero with it. I started playing around with which zero would be best, and found 65-75 yards gives a very flat point of impact shift as a combat zero as well.
It's particularly effective on SPRs, using the magnified optic for longer shots (ie 300+)
I'll post an actual comment for pin when I get a few minutes.
Fantastic video, btw! Thanks for putting this out.
@Buck Foe Jiden yeah looking forward to seeing a comment for pin that people can refer to for information from the source.