One Yarn, Two Spindles - Spinning with Top Whorl and Turkish Style Drop Spindles
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2022
- I'm spinning the same fiber on two different spindles and comparing the yarn each spindle spins. I'll use a top whorl drop spindle vs a Turkish style drop spindle to spin up a lovely wool silk blend. How will the yarn as a single and as a 2-ply compare between the two different types of spindles?
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Ha ha I put the butter in my handbag and my wallet in the fridge, you are not alone! Thanks for the video tuition.
I am a Spindler and I can manipulate any spindle to spin any type of yarn I want, but it is easier to spin it on spindles weighted and balanced specifically for that yarn type. I do prefer to make my own as personal preference really adds to easy of use for most spindle spinners. I do prefer top whorls for long staple fibers and bottom whorls for shorter fibers.
I have a couple of highly center weighted spindles,like your top whorl. I mostly use them for plying because I find spinning fast enough to keep up with them kind of stressful. They’re great for plying quickly though. :)
I love how I can tell you were influenced by 'respect the spindle' by the way you spin. I laughed in recognition.
Lol! Abby and I have a lot of similar opinions about spinning! 😊🧶✨
I just noticed how you wind the yarn around your thumb and index finger. I'm sure you have shown that trick before, but this is the first time I picked up on it. That looks way easier than catching the yarn on a toe or a doorknob when I've overextended myself. Thank You.
Yes, it is so much easier on my arms! I'm glad you caught it! 💜🧶😊
Oh no crystals and spinning together……there goes all my time and money 😂
That's one of my favourite fibre blends. So much fun. Love how the purple matches your whorl.
I like what you said about the spinner choosing the way the yarn turns out - but we also choose the tools and I love how that influences our results too. Thanks for showing us the different yarns your spindles wanted to spin.
Beginner spindle spinner and rockhound here...love the spindle. I am not sure about your whorle, as many things are called "Tiffany stone" by many people. I have some that I bought as tiffany stone by one miner, out of his mine, and it is actually purple amathyst. It's pretty though.
For agates, which has a hardness of 7 on the mohs scale, you dont need to worry as much dropping them. They are pretty hard. They can be glued back together too if they do happen to break.
Your videos have inspired me to begin spindle spinning, and now you've inspired me to make whorles from stones on the lapidary machine. I think a jade whorle would be gorgeous!
Thank you for your great videos!
You are going to love my new amber whorls! Video in the works! 😀💜
I'm not yet a "spindle slinner", having learned on a wheel..but, you've definitely inspired me to explore this method! I have a week long business trip in May, and a spindle would be much more portable than one of my spinning wheels! 🙃
Go for it!
Lucky you!😸
LOVE the line of spinning wheels behind you! They're gorgeous, a perfect collection for a lovely teacher
Your necklace is beautiful! And excellent video as usual. I love how you explore the craft.
That 🐑 spindle is the cutest!
It's one of my favorites! 🐑🐑🐑💜
I’d be curious to see how the yarn held up, or functioned, in use for each sample. It looked like the top whorl was almost more of a woolen long draw, vs the Turkish was more of a semi-worsted. Thank you for all you do, you have a lovely presence & you’re a wonderful teacher. I broke out one of my new Turtle Made Turkish spindles & watched your videos to learn how to get started with it (I’m using some Manx Loaghtan wool from Paradise Fibers…a fun spin). I’ve primarily used Bosworth & Spindlewood top whorl spindles which I love, but it’s fun to branch out sometimes. 🧶
Works much better out of the fridge!💖
Yes it does! 😅😅😅
hi evie! thank you for having such a wonderful and helpful channel. i'm a huge textile and wool fan, and have been wanting to learn the craft of spinning for years now. i really want to learn the craft, and your videos have been a tremendous help for me, when planning what do get, and with researching a bit beforehand. i can't wait to watch more, with wool in one hand and a spindle in the other. thank you for making this project seem feasible and fun :) much love from the scandi corner of the world :)
Omg I have the same top whorl and a similar Snyder’s spindles Turkish spindle! I started with the top whorl, but I’ve found the Turkish’s slower speed has been amazing for practicing drafting- with the other one I was doing park and draft pretty exclusively. Also, I used sculpey to make a little whorl for the shaft from the turkish spindle to use it without the arms- I flick a bunch of twist into it and then zip my drafting arm back like long draw! It’s super fun and I can do it slouched on the couch
I love this comparison I personally am the opposite with my spindles it’s easier to spin more bulky on my top whorl and very fine on my Turkish spindles
I’d be interested to see differences in yarn versus technique spin off your leg vs rolling off your thumb or flicking vs spinning with the arm……maybe I’ll add that to my to do list 😅
Again, such an excellent tutorial! I admire your teaching style a great deal. Thank you for providing detailed, articulate, well thought out information on process and technique. Very much appreciated:)
I really appreciate these simple technical topics :)
I have yet to buy a Turkish spindle. I love how you explained that. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
the "wrap" you do at a the top of the Turkish spindle is the same that is used to load the "pegs" (I don't remember the English word, in Italian is "fuselli") for bobbin lace.
it allows to adjust the length of the thread as you work while keeping the tension and preventing unraveling.
Again, I don't know the English term, we use the generic word "blocco", which means stopper.
Thanks for sharing the info. Of all the spindle types top whorl is my favorite.
I love these videos as a new spinner I only have a basic top whorl spindle but I feel like I’m always getting my yarn over or under spun never just right
this is extremely interesting and informative! thank you
I never would have thought of this. Thanks. Blessings.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! 💜🧶😊
Thank you so much for this observation. I love it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
So interesting! I love yarny experiments.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
Cool. Had wondered about the difference. When I started spinning with bottom whorl Turkish 34yrs ago don't even remember seeing top whorl. When spindle was lost in packing boxes for 10yrs decided to make own with dowel, wooden wheel, picture hook. Because I used elastrator bands to hold wheel on now have 4 working spindles and 8 bobbins for $10. Means I can spin 3_4 oz on spindle then ply directly to another spindle and evaluate results in5spins to decide if should be 2or 3ply,do those colors play well,how much bloom to expect. If top gives that much twist, glad to use bottom as easily hit over twisted 21wpi!
Wow, that's a fantastic system!!! Thanks for sharing! 💜🧶😊
HOW DID YOU KNOW I LOSE SPINDLES IN THE FRIDGE(or pantry, or bathroom,)?? I feel seen 🤣🤣
Solidarity!!! 😂🤣💜
LisaR: fabulous video ! Thank you 😊- I've been spinning on a wheel since early 90s- but the drop spindles were much harder to learn for me . The sources for learning were mostly in written form - I remember swinging my spindle halfway across the room As per one set of instructions:)) Well , as I took them to mean :/! The fear of the more precious ones crashing to bits also created a barrier- as you mentioned :)) I ve been subscribed since you began and will be happy to head over to support your channel - and show my appreciation for the useful & fun content you create ❣️🧶
You explain things so well - thank you! Also, your hair is getting so long!
Oh thank you! 💜🧶😊🐑
I usually spindle spin standing for a reason. Being 6 foot 2 I can make about an 8 foot leader before I have to wind on. It's why I prefer Kierman and bottom whorl spindles.
This is very useful for a beginner like me. I was debating which spindle I was gonna get. I would like to have thicker yarn so I know my answer now. Thank you
I spin very thin on my turkish spindle, they come in so many weights! I also apparently spin thinner than my spindle typically should.
I have a large wooden top whorl and a smaller stone top whorl. Since I'm just learning the spindle has a lot of the control. But, I have noticed that with the larger slower spindle I am getting a thicker yarn. My favorite is the smaller faster stone whorl spindle.
Very cool! That's a very helpful observation! 🧶💜😊
I’m v much a beginner but I find the complete opposite - my lightweight Turkish spindle is easier to do a fine yarn with than my basic top whorl which seems to need a thicker draft as it’s heavier 🤷🏻♀️ but now I’m off to look up ‘drafting from the fold’ as maybe that’s the trick to a more even single 🤞🏻
Hi Evie, I hope you're all OK xx 😘 💕
Thankyou so much for doing this experiment.
Love the way the Yarns turned out.
Made me want to get my Spindles out and give it a go.!!!
Going off topic a little bit did you watch any of the video podcast that Schneider( excuse the spelling) ???
It was really interesting to watch them making their Spindles.
Happy Spinning
Take care and stay safe
Lots of love Jen 💘 xx ❤❤💕💕❣❣🐏🐏🐏🐏
Thank you! 😊Yes, they are so talented with wood working! 💜🧶😊
I love watching your videos. I wish you lived in the state of Florida so I can book a day with you and learn to spin yarn with you
I do teach virtually! Eventually I'll get out to more festivals and maybe make it to Florida! 😄🧶💕
@@JillianEve I watch her tutorials all the time and I love them but still it’s not the same as being able to sit in a room with you and you saying yes you’re doing it correctly no do it this way but I will continue to watch you thank you so much for sharing your videos
Nice comparison. You also explain things well. I think the stone in the spindle is purple jasper.
Thanks for the info! I think my rock identify app misidentified it. Either way, it is really pretty because I love purple! 💜🧶😊
The Woolery has them in purple jasper which is one of the reasons I thought it was that besides the look.
All I need is another new hobby... No, but seriously... I totally need to take up this hobby. My bank balance might disagree... eh...whatever... We can fight that battle when my rent's due. ❤
the spindles i use are top whorl , i like the way they feel when i am spinning
That's the most important thing over all!
I have found that I prefer spinning on my drop spindle, so I only use my Turkish spindle for plying.
Interesting! 🧶😊🐑💜
Hi Evie,
Thank you for these videos they are brilliant. I’ve been able to teach myself how to spin using so many of your tutorials!
I wanted to ask if you have heard of a lady named Zati? She demonstrated on a TikTok how to spin yarn straight from a fleece using a rock and a small stick. It looked like it fit with your history of spinning series so well, it was quite interesting. Also have you found in all your research any references to an old tale about a deity of spinning who would come and punish women who had not finished their years spinning… I think she was in Italian folklore. I heard about her on the Lore podcast.
There are lots of old supernatural beings who would punish "lazy" spinners through lots of cultures and folklore. I love those old stories. I have seen the spin with a rock TikTok and I thought it was really fun. I've spun flax with a rock and I have that video on my Patreon as part of my COE series. I might get around to a regular UA-cam video on it eventually. I have so many projects! 😊🧶💜
Great video! So cool how the top whorl matched the fiber!😁 Did you change your hair & make up? You look SMOKIN’!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥😉
Thank you! 🥰
It looks like opalized fluorite - also known as Tiffany Stone. Tiffany Stone is a name for opalized fluorite found in a specific location, pretty cool though.
Is drafting from the fold with the turkish spindle the better way to do it? I've always drafted from the end of the roving, not sure what's the best method.
Hi Evie. As a rock crystal enthusiast, I would say that the whorl looks more like a kind of Jasper to me, but Tiffany stone may be a newer discovery. 🤷🏼♀️ Very pretty whatever it is. 😊 Also, can I ask if that is a yarn swift behind your wheels in the background, and if so, does it have a name like "Amish style" or something please? Thanks again for all you do for us spinners. Much love. , Wend. Xx
I thought it was a Jasper too because of the brown lines running through it, but my rock identifier app said Tiffany stone. That's why I was hoping someone would see the video and help me out! The swift behind me in the video is an antique that came from the Pennsylvania area. I'm not sure if it has a specific identifying name. It does have all the gears to make it click when it goes around a certain number of times so I've seen some people refer to those as a "click reel". Maybe that's it? 💜😊🧶✨
I've heard the swift called a weasel since it "pops" to go with the nursery rhyme pop goes the weasel. Not to be confused with a squirrel swift that has 2 rolling mechanisms.
Question. Evie, I tried to make & spin rolags for the first time. I'm finding that I'm getting some area that are almost matted. Any suggestions? Oh, and I'm spinning on a drop spindle but soon I should have a wheel. I've watched your getting started video several times. Thanks for the tips on practicing treadling and so on.
Those tough to draft slubby bits can take a bit of extra care to smooth them out. Sometimes if I can't untwist a bit on either end and draft it out, I will roll it between my fingers and squoosh it down so it isn't as noticeable. 💜😊🧶
I really love your videos. I am still resisting spinning, because I don't have much space at home and I am terrifyed to fall in a never ending rabbit hole, but I am curious what type of spindle would you recommend for a first spindle ?
If I was going to start spinning all over again, especially if space was an issue, I would start with a Turkish spindle. The fact that it makes its own center pull ball that you can ply from reduces the need for more equipment and they are just so much fun to spin with! I have a link to the one I used in this video in the video description. Snyder has lots of different styles and so many spinners love them!
@@JillianEve Thanks, I will wait until I have knitted through most of my yarn stash, then I will consider a turkish spindle.
I have not used a soindle in any way yet. Been watching videos on tirkish and drop spindles only. I live your video so much for going over the yarn created by each spindle. I have heard in videos that a drop spindle is best for a newbie spinner but I think i want to try the turkish first. What do you suggest? Should i go ahead ajd stick with the drop spindle or should I attempt the turkish first? Thank you so very much for making this video!!!
Now that you have thin yarn and a thicker yarn from the same fiber;;;;;how will you use these yarns? Will it be possible to use them together somehow?
I received a spindle like that, except the whorl is pale green. Adventurine, perhaps? I've been afraid to try spinning with it.
When you are doing the spin with the spindle are they a "S" or a "Z" twist? Do you a lassey Kate to hold your brop spindle, when plying with a wheel? A friend had one that hold 3 brop spindle a time for plying off the spindles. It's one Mark could make, with a board and really heavy wires, and a sceweye. I been learning a lot from your videos 📹. Thank you very much for sharing.
I use a box to hold my spindles when I ply and it works well as a Lazy Kate. These yarns were spun with Z twist. 🧶😊
@@JillianEve OK 👍! Mark could see if his wood 🪵 skills could try to make you one for your drop spindles. He need to drill three holes just deep enough to hold
Then by the holes have a wire bent withe a loop for the drop spindles to guide them and hold them up right. Then a eyescew to guide the spin single from each drop spindles. I was thinking 🤔 of making one for myself. Thank so much showing how different spindles twists up fibers. Different countries have different styles, and I think 🤔 it's interesting how they spin. You do it again using the clay and the top spindles. Show rap per inches. I like to see 👀 how it turns out.
Question.. I'm spinning cashmere on a top whirl and it's quite thick and uneven would you say a bottom whirl would be better for this fiber xx
Oh the luxury!!!! 🐐💜 I like a bit more twist in my cashmere so it doesn't shed so I'd personally use a top whorl between these two. But everyone is different. If you find a bottom whorl gives you yarn you like more, go for it!
@@JillianEve that's perfect thank you so much and yes I'm finding it needs more twist xx
another question sorry where did you get that beautiful necklace with that spinning wheel pendant on it?
It was suggested to me by Etsy and I clicked "buy" so fast when I saw it! Lol! It's vintage and the only one the seller had in their shop. I love it and I wear it every day!
where did you get your spinners control card is that what its called? love your channel!
Check Etsy. Search spinning tools, or spinning card.
Yep! There are so many great ones on Etsy! Search "spinner's control card" or use this affiliate link: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=982709&u=1929793&m=70734&urllink=www%2Eetsy%2Ecom%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dspinners%2520control%2520card&afftrack=
Your Turkish spindle seems quite heavy, which would be a reason for the yarn being thicker too. I have a 13,7 grams one…
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How can you tell if you have over twisted your yarn? How much curl should be in the draft?
Fold it back on itself to see how it will look after it is plied. If you like it or not, you can adjust. 🧶😊💜
Ip egirme aparatıni nerden aliyorsunuz, linkini atarmısiniz siparis sayfasıni ..
I get mine from here🧶😊💖 - Snyder Turkish Cut Out Spindle Etsy (affiliate) - shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=982709&u=1929793&m=70734&urllink=www%2Eetsy%2Ecom%2Flisting%2F727895248%2Fsnyder%2Dturkish%2Dcut%2Dout%2Dspindle%2Davailable%3F&afftrack=
Wow. Do u ever look good today!
Oh thank you!
Okay -- Evie -- you are much to young to misplace items in the fridge -- haha!!!
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