Weirdly enough all my friends who are super casual refuse to make a build in D4 without a guide. They argued with me so many times on this it baffles me. :D Otherwise common sense dictates you are right. I am hardcore, but don't use guides.
My Minion build: Army of dead, iron golem, reapers, ice mages, corpse tendrils, corpse explosion, bloodmist. Howl from below, mendeln, frost boots. Super fun! Corpse tendril spam, hold slam, corpse explosion, buff minions on CD. Spec into transfusion. Minions go harrrrd. 😂 BTW, to hell with shadow builds. Physical and frost all the way.
I remember approaching the game in this way at the beginning and my friends all looking at me like I was an oddity. "You're going to get tired of hitting walls with you free form build"... "you aren't running your build to its full potential".... "id rather the experts tell me how to best make my build than stress out over the paragon board and every item I come across". Nowadays, I'm still having fun and they're complaining almost every week. My argument at the time was making my own character, exploring and trying out new builds was my way of having fun with the game. Following someone else's build to the t was closer to a coloring book simulator, which I'm not a fan of.
U can justify all u want but truth is i cant grind nm dungeons over over on a second char. I did it first play through. Loved it. But thats all i can do
@@originoa I was actually running side quests in Khejistan yesterday mid hell tide and a friend said something similar. Honestly, I feel the classes are unique enough for me to do it multiple times. Feels different enough and I draw enjoyment from it :)
@@toxisistsi respect that. Im excited to come back ina few seasons but im good for now. Started diablo 2 its quests and exploration and actual “ gameyness “ is great
Mad respect man. I wish more players had this same mentality. Even on the eternal realm I had no interest in blazing through the game. My buddies were pushing hard for max level and I was sitting there at level 45 and wasn’t even halfway through the campaign. They were losing their minds and hating life grinding nightmare dungeons and I was enjoying my time doing random side quests and exploring the map. Hats off to you man.
I love this so much man. THIS is the way games are intended to be played. THIS is how you make a game 1000 times more enjoyable! Welcome to the 80’s and 90’s folks!
It's how I always play ARPGs. I just play around with different builds. Sometimes they suck and sometimes I stumble on something broken, but it's more fun if I figure it out on my own. I don't understand why people use build guides unless they're pushing leaderboards or something.
@@SuperLotussometimes it’s the convenience of it though, sometime I just don’t want spend 30-60 minutes reading up things, I followed build guides and after 20 hours I ended learning about everything I needed to learn about along the way, sometimes it’s how some people learn too, for me I follow build guided especially broken ones because it’s the fact that it’s known to them and I don’t have to waste time trying loads of different things because I like to level up fast enough, I want to level up in 1 month every season so I’m not worrying about making it too 100 every season, plus I still got my eternal realm class still to max out to after the seasonal character and then next month with 2 massive games coming out on xbox so I won’t have time for D4 as much, starfield and motorsport are time killers too
@@carlosmartinez3020sounds like you are slamming through content just to slam through content. The exact opposite of what the message is here. Again you do you...
@@carlosmartinez3020TLDR you have a lot of stuff to try and achieve... So you are slamming through it as fast as possible not taking time to actually play.
This is why you're developing the kind of base you have. You're a chill healthy perspective in a sea of stressed out competitive channels. Great video.
I'm so glad you are spreading this sort of message. I did the same with my Druid, and now at level 75 I have a build that is substantially different from anything I've seen online. It still wrecks house, but more importantly it's still enjoyable to play. I do wish the season had more than just the hearts and lvl 80 boss though.
I learned this a few years ago and it really applies to almost any rpg. Sometimes It's so much better to just try out a build you think would be cool and see if you can make it work. As cool as one shotting Uber Lilith is, you don't need to play a build like that to enjoy the game.
Exactly. Games are meant to be played that way. They are designed for player exploration. Not players picking an endgame solution and apply it to their game. Thats killing the longevity as well as your moneys worth.
I do this for years since D2. I'm a casual e most of the build are for who have a lot of time to play. So I play on my way. Oh yeah, I don't give a shit about competition.
Honestly man, if you keep being yourself and honest and stay true to this video, you will be one of the best content creators and people will follow you for years to come. Glad I found your channel and look forward to future games
agreed! Be what other people aren't, your other channel is great for that too. this channel is named after D4, but it could simply mean D4 was a means to a quality channel about enjoying stuff for the fun of it.
@@rogero8443 If you are interested in watching this guy do more than just d4 stuff, he has a second channel for that called Darth Microtransaction. Hope this helps other people who didn't know about this.
THIS!!!!!! Been watching your content and this hits home. I tend to watch some build videos just to see how other people look at the paragon board, get some inspiration, and do my own thing with it. Thank you for posting this one! Hopefully the devs continue to expand build versatility.
For me the way I’ve been having fun with S1 is I’m using the season journey to give me clear goals, and once I’ve achieved that I think it will be time to take a break and play other games until S2 begins.
I'm doing this, and not rushing. Heck, only just hit level 42 today! We have 3 times as long to get anything done. Totally loving the Necro 'afk' Hearts btw!
@@stephymink I'm scared to start a necro because I think the hearts would make me spoiled when the season is over. I do hope they add at least the auto-raise heart effect to one of the +max minion aspects after though.
This. Make your own build and play style. I’m trying to stay away from guides and tutorials because the game is more fun when you create rather than copy.
@@steadychasingmoneybands6213 I'm interested in hearing more takes like this (mindsets which more easily enable having fun with the game). That is exactly, precisely in line with the definition of content. What are you trying to get at? Your statement is vague and confusing.
It seems like,(atleast imo) very few people are playing diablo 4 right at all. I play in a duo with my wife and we gear and build to compliment eachother. Our first builds were, druid pulverize with emphasis on crit and overpower, and an ice sorcerer. She would freeze swaths of enemies and i would smash them. It was a hoot! Now we are running minion necro with 13 mobs and blood lance, paired with a marksman rogue. The minions tie up everything and she blasts them with targeted damage. We are having a blast so far. Theres the team build option that is totally overlooked.
You put a smile on my face and you are so right! Min-maxing makes me feel burnt out so quickly. I reached lv 80 yesterday and today I don't even feel like opening the game for some reason.
Yep I have two lvl 75s and just created a 3rd character.. I just see no point at all in grinding NM dungeons to 100. I’ll play each character to 75/80 an then hopefully they have some new content by then🤷🏻♂️
I love this take. I also find that the closer I get to trying to min/max the further away I get from the fun. I just prefer to make up my own objectives about build experimentation, dungeon crawling, etc.
The best builds I’ve done have been the ones I’ve done using a hunch on what looks fun. Build guides are great but man they make me so on edge all the time trying to look at a build guide screen. Experimenting with the skills is fun. POE? Oh man. I have to use a build guide there.
Build guides should be just that guides that suggest things to swap around if you have a hard time with something. I love finding out what I enjoy and then looking up guides that’s use all those things
Except there's so, so, so many games out there which you can play this exact same way but they offer actual depth and well developed systems. Your time would be better invested ignorantly leveling blindly and pushing through acts of Path of Exile. You will fail for probably 3-4 seasons straight, but eventually when you begin learning and progressing it will be rewarding... and the game itself will be worth the investment. Expecting people to zombie brain this game to 'find fun' is a poor approach, because at the end of that road it's still a poorly developed game, with shallow systems. Even a zombie brain is going to eventually realize they're just rerolling one stat at exorbitant prices, and having zero fun.
You gotta have some kids to respect diablo 4 as a casual dad experience. I started off making my own builds. Trying to make incinerate sorc work was hilarious. No it probably won't work endgame but it was fun to try
Also as a casual dad I love this game. I get to play some days 30 min, some days hours, life happens. I don’t pay attention to the mega, nice to watch them cuz it’s fun, but by the time I reach that high of a level the mega has already changed. Just enjoying the game, but. Love Darth Micros videos, this man is awesome.
@@BeWater2019 I did fine up to level 25 it was pretty strong early. Kind of fell off but I believe there are some aspects that could make it better later on. Im a sucker for any death beam type sorc build xD. Best advice is do what DM is saying. Its really easy to just remove points if it isn't working out for you and go a different route. By the time I hit 50 I've tried most of the skills and know what I want as far as playstyle. Tier lists and the like have ruined games like WoW for me in the past so I won't let that persuade me what to play again.
@Alone47 I am running a pyromancy sorcerer through the season. At level 58, I am surviving pretty well; I would say better than my rogue, even. All Pyro skills except for teleport for the mobility.
I remember watching you for raid on darth microtransaction what seems like years ago, it definitely hasnt been aslong as i think it has but seeing you elevate yourself so much is inspiring man, youre doing amazing just keep being honest as you are and providing your own take, youve done that since forever so i know you will (: youre a legend man, thanks for getting me through life. Struggling real hard at the moment so seeing an upload from you always makes my day (:
Playing a shred druid with poison creeper. Been making it up as I go along and adjusting here and there based on what legendaries drop. Very fun and very tanky so far. Failed the capstone at level 41 (could not get pass the boss) but made some changes, got more tanky and leveled up to 47 and then took down the boas without using a health potion. It was very fun and satisfying knowing I made the changes necessary and not some dude on youtube. Great content. Love your channel.
Happy to see you having fun, hope that you can see this is the best way to have fun playing a game, even when leaderboards and such come out, actually play it, not just "perform" a color-by-numbers by following a "build". I'm >30 and asked myself why I wasn't enjoying games as much anymore and it all came down to not having every possible min-max or solution blasted at me, it just wasn't possible when I was a kid. Now I enjoying games just as much as when I was younger. My advice to everyone: slow down and enjoy the content as you encounter it naturally. I still watch youtube videos and even guides about the games I play (since then I get the experience the games even when I can't play them) but I don't go out of my way to copy them. When I'm playing the game my attention is totally on experiencing the game first-hand as it comes to me. It's such a better way to enjoy gaming, I'm glad when I was a kid it was the only way so I could so I got to experience it and to come back to later in life.
I completely agree! The end game isn’t polished and social aspects are practically non-existent so I haven’t seen any point in grinding for Uber uniques. I’ve had more fun going in blind and trying new builds
I've had a blast playing my Necro this season. I tried to come up with a fun build using the new hearts and aspects and I found something that is not only incredibly fun but also pretty damn strong! I think people are getting so hung up on looking up meta builds that they are missing the best part of Diablo, coming up with cool unique builds. I was surprised how many other builds were viable and so much more fun than the standard min max builds.
This guy has great advice, I want the same thing out of the game that he does. I’m having a lot of fun, if I only play it for a couple months there’s nothing wrong with that, I got a backlog of games I have to finish so when D4 gets stale, I’m out and on to the next
what made my d4 gaming experience way more fun was a simple thing. movement speed. the faster my character was, the more fun it was for me. and sure, screw guides, do what works for you.
I feel this so much. With a wife and kid I don't have much time to game so I end up watching/listening to more video game content than I actually play. By the time I actually get to sit down and play the game, all of the enjoyment of discovering a game for myself is gone. Here's to the good ol' days of just playing a game for yourself and not worrying about how "good" you are at it.
I have a wife and kids too and I can't wait to get home and ignore them and play this lol. Naw in all seriousness I can't grind and whiteboard and spreadsheet like I'd want to, but it is fun to run around and do random stuff while completely tweaking my build mid-dungeon. It is fun af
I'm bored of D4 already. That being said it is a great game for Dad's. Easy to run dungeons casually and instantly set the controller down when my daughter needs me. Bladurs Gate and Remnant are both fantastic.
while i agree with what he's saying, i also understand nobody is stopping you from doing this. or that other people min-maxing shouldn't make the game less fun for you
@@saucymoon7134 it’s not the min maxers that kill the mood it’s just when the whole game becomes min Maxy with everyone running the same icyveins build that gets boring
One of the biggest lessons for ALL modern gamers in ALL games: try to actually play games for fun and relax, don't obsess over minmaxing, don't try to be the best of all time immediately even if it *IS* a competitive game, try to actually get fun out of the game and not just push yourself immediately into a pool of anger, stress and disappointment
In chasing the minmaxed build, people forgot how to have fun. When they are not getting the right items, they start feeling frustrated and the negative complaints start. Just play the game and forget about all the minmaxing for a bit. Explore your own creative build ideas. Then maybe, they can start having fun again.
i did the exact same thing, DM. I would look up build guides, watch youtube vids on which build was cool and tried each one. last night i went on my lv89 rogue, deleted all my shit in the inventory, respec'd on both skill tree and paragon board. i took my lv51 season character, and i am currently running a setup based on the legendaries and affixes I have when i got the drop. so much more fun this way! played the story this way too and almost forgot about doing it when I reached tier 4 and started grinding dungeons for gear and the "best" build. it really destroyed the game for me, but playing how you are is a hell of a lot more fun. keep doing what your doing bro.
That's how I'm playing it since day one, correcting mistakes on the go and learning without paying much attention on all those videos and sites, sure I had a few wtf moments, but overall is pretty fun. Kudos to your honest take man.
So glad to see you make a video on this topic. I dont mind being competitive in the right context but you have to be prepared to admit that sometimes its just not worth it for your own enjoyment, and thats okay.
Maybe this is why I've thoroughly enjoyed all 150+ hrs I've spent as opposed to allegedly so many people. I plan my builds out, do some tweaking or full reworks, but all myself. I find what's fun and what I want to achieve and do it. Same with exploring and dungeons. I just set out and do something. Sometimes for the hell of it, sometimes with a purpose. Freaking love this game.
Yeah it’s like people beg for release, speed through the content with walkthroughs and guides, then complain it’s easy and short. When dlc? And they do it again and again Ive looked up one video about bg3 to see how it plays etc, and already I see guides pop up, how to play, best party selection, and all that stuff. These channels prey on people that are hyped for the new game when it comes out. And in the meantime spoil it for them. Best way to play bg3? Or any game for that matter. Go in blind!
@murray821 The key difference being that BG3 is a completely tailored experience, following a guide is almost impossible. Not to mention the game has RNG elements which means some things literally cannot be the same. Not only that but BG3 has hundreds of hours of base content and 17000 permutations of gamestate so the replay factor is off the charts. Diablo 4 has literally zero end game. There's nothing to do past level 60. Grinding NM dungeons for the sake of it isn't rewarding or engaging, it's just bad game design.
I just made a human druid build that mimics Crone through Earth Spike and Stormstrike, but instead of resetting bulwark, I'm pumping 75% lucky hit to reset the new creeper aspect. It's so damn fun. Sometimes I get to just hold the creeper button down and it just flies for like 3 seconds straight on bosses. Good call, dude.
100%, man. I was just telling my buddy this. At launch(and the start of this season) I was following maxroll guides and getting frustrated I wasn't getting certain rolls, I was going through the motions renown grinding, etc... but at one point on one of my alts I actually started listening to one of the quests, got interested and by the end I was like 'damn that was kind of a good story for side quest.' After that, I continued paying attention and enjoying myself/ignoring build guides and its been a really enjoyable experience. It's to the point where I feel like it's a shame people aren't taking their time to experience a lot of the touches that have been put on the world/story because of the current ARPG paradigm that people cant seem to get out of(and in most cases seem to want their cake and eat it too) - I love ARPGs(yes, including Path), but sometimes we just have to let a game be a game. I feel like this is what started happening with MMOs after WoW; an MMO would come out, everyone would jump on it, rush to max level and then complain there wasn't enough content or the game wasn't as good as WoW because [xyz], forgetting that most of us didn't have build guides and quest markers and boss guides when WoW came out. We had to experience the game throughout a leveling journey and THAT is part of what made it great. Anyway, love the content. Thanks for the positivity and keep it up!
That’s how I played the game when it launched with Druid. I threw together a build that used Crone staff, Temerity with Pulverize, Claw and Bulwark. The gear affixes were all over the place and the build still pushed almost to NM60 without a guide. Then I played a Rogue following a guide to see how the pros out a build together which I modified to fit my play style and I am happy. When the new patch hits I am moving on to Barbarian, no guides, going to base it off what I did back in the early access beta and run a dual basic build and stack guaranteed overpowered bursts. It doesn’t matter if overpower builds are weak or not, what matters more is if they are fun to play and I suspect it will be.
Power leveled a Sorc to 83 in the first few days of s1. Kept trying to find the best builds / tips. Now playing a druid max. 1-2 hours a day and it feels SO much better and I'm enjoying logging on and just doing whatever to get some exp / f around with builds. 1000% agree with you.
I'm glad people can enjoy theory crafting still. Personally, though, this is not for me. Played minion builds already on Necro and it just frustrated me to play a weak build. Now I'm playing Bone Spear and I can actually enjoy myself.
Playing that way is how I found your channel. I completed a bear build blind and then looked up builds after i got as far as I could with it. Now, in season 1, I'm experimenting with Rogue and concussion grenades. It's all traps and cutthroat skills with tons of invisible uptime. Great AoE and lots of stuns on bosses. Got to WT3 at L44. 51 now and it's just getting better. There is no reason to look stuff up unless you're really, really stuck.
Finally someone I hear using no Core skills... Like, I did My Barby to start off the first take, and saw that every build recomendation on web was about "Whirlwind". And so I payed atenttion to it, all the mecanichs and players, PvP and on the map (yeah... It all seems to confirm it's the obvious). But since I got to the WepMastry Death Blow, I just loved the animation and acction it brings to the fights, Whirlwind don't do it... Not for me at least, so I started just wondering about my lack of need for Fury... But so long, it has brought me a Nice experience, even thou it seems the best play is the other, the competitions are only on PvP, so it sucks ass Blizrd won't let play without PsPlus... I have to wait for freeforall seasons 😢
Same! I tried this on Barb pre-season and hit a brick wall, but this was before I understood damage buckets and other stats. Now I've committed to a ranged Rogue, landed on RF/Rain of Arrows and it's been pretty fun. I'm starting to hit the boredom wall at 75, but I can promise I wouldn't have made it to level 30 following some TB meta guide. If this game was more intuitive for build experimentation and diversity, it would help a lot. Rogue is pretty okay for this it seems, but I can imagine something like off meta Sorc would be tough.
Build guides are made by humans like u and me. In season I play Necro. The meta necro build changed alot about weekly. And I don't care. They focused on total armor and a armor (magic node buffing glyph). IMHO I went less total armor and more movement speed, because I thought faster = more fun for me. And dieing I don't care. Now the guide got changed and guess what movement speed is superior and they changed the glyph. I get inspired by builds but I play my style and that is the only thing you should use build guides IMHO. Just have fun!
I started my Season 1 journey as a minion Necromancer. It was fun, but in World Tier 3 I felt it falling off and that something wasn't right. I can't really say what it was. Maybe the lack of exactly targeting enemies for my minions. But their damage and survivability also felt off. I tried changing skills and stuff around, but couldn't really alleviate my concerns. Then I switched to a Corpse Tendrils + Explosions + Sever build and I am having fun. Now, I do look at guides from time to time. This is mostly just as a point of reference though and a little help with the Paragon Board. The build is still adjusted to what I have fun with. I shortly switched to the pure Infinimist Necrobuild, didn't have fun with it, switched back to my current build and yep, having fun again. Though I wish I could make a minion build work. But resetting Paragon Boards is a pain, which makes me less enthusiastic about experimenting,
Completely agree. I look up a build just to get a sense of the playstyle I want to use. Then I made tweaks and adjustments as I see fit. Mainly to save time trying to figure out the best abilities to synergise
I am not one to comment on UA-cam videos but I thought what you said is the best advice I have heard from any content creator. I am a 56 year old male and am a casual player mostly weekends and have played all Diablo games. I played all D4 betas played through the campaign reached level 70 sorceresses and am level 50 in season one and am enjoying it as much as day one doing excellently as you just said. I find it more fun to figure things out and learn on my own and do what I want in the open world. Thank you keep up with the good content.
Mad respect for this take DM, I have done the same thing for this season. I pushed hard pre-season got to 100 and was burning out already. So for season 1, no build guides, had an idea for a character, and that's what I'm doing. Will it be min-maxed no probably not. I just hit 58 last night (I started another character got them to 50 but wasn't having fun so I restarted) Been having fun again playing this way, too often we seem to forget Video Games should be fun, if your not having fun, find something that is fun.
Enjoy your content man. My preseason build, I experimented on my own til I came at a dead end at lvl 88. It was a crap build but it was my own and D4 is the first game of its kind that I ever played. It was really fun. Now, I wanted to have an OP build and I’ve been sucked into the Min/max loop. The only thing fun about it is that I don’t struggle nearly as much in dungeons lol.
That’s pretty much the same approach I’ve taken and I’m really enjoying it. I have consumed a fair amount of “best build for X” stuff, but NOT to copy & paste or min/max; I use the info to help solidify my understanding of the synergies and try to make new ones as I go.
First of all, thanks for your honest view and opinions in your videos. My buddy convinced me to play Diablo and this is the first time i ever played such type of games and he was pushing it to the maximum right from the start and told me what to invest in and what to look out for. I enjoyed only the story, leveling was boring and running the same dungeons was boring to. The time we talked during sessions was the most pleasant thing that game offers me btw i started with the hunter class an he with the druid and i quitted a couple weeks ago around level 83. He asked if i would play the season and i only agreed with him by not spoiling anything and picking up new classes and develop our own builds and doing quests and stuff we find along the way. I totally agree with you and now i'm enjoying the game more. Greetings from germany and have a nice day.
As a casual player how get about 1 or 2 hours most nights per week to play, im really enjoying the season. I tried out the druid in free form builds just exploring different build combos, which sucked in the first few level. I finally settled on something i liked around level 30. Im around level 60 right now and really really enjoying the game. This is the most enjoyable i have played this game.
im running corpse explosion/tendrils/bone storm/decompose/bone spirit. having a blast at level 70. definitely my fave thing about necro, you can get creative with your build
Great attitude to have! The competitive gaming is for the pros. ARPGs are meant to be a fun journey where you enjoy the gameplay for what it is. Far too many people want to skip the journey to rush to the end. You will see this in every game. In POE, I level a character to red maps then move on to the next character if I’m enjoying the league. In D4 season 1, I am playing a Necromancer main, but am playing around with all the other classes. I only played for two weeks before the season started, so I’m catching up learning the classes. I’m in no hurry, just enjoying the game mechanics.
I’m commend you sir! I get into discussions with ppl on the same matter. They ask why. I say because I’m having fun. Discovering the builds and gear myself is what’s fun to me. And if I’m having a difficult time at the very end then I MIGHT look. But I typically keep up on my own. Side note, I tend to not use 1 or 2 spell slots.
This is what I ended up doing. I was playing rogue, found a rapid fire flurry guide, stomped everything, reset dungeons, and was slowly getting bored of the seasons when word of Hakan dropped. Now I'm playing a worse build and having more fun because I love dumping huge multicolored rains of arrows and living out my ranger fantasy. It's great! Sure I looked up how to make the build work but I'm not worried about being the most efficient and I'm making tweaks based on my playstyle and it's been a blast to just run around and have fun with the game doing whatever I feel like, even though it's slower.
Thats a healthy approach. I did the same thing at the start of season 1. But then when i hit 70 i started minmaxing with guides and stuff and i couldnt find a reason to log in when i was 77. So i rerolled a sorceress and im just going with the flow, trying stuff out as i go, and now i have a reason to log in again.
You're my favorite content creator currently. Playing Diablo IV how I've wanted since drop just like you. Only a casual player with about 70 hours in with 2 level 60's one play thru story. Excited for POE2 next year but still enjoying Diablo IV the way you are as well.
I play necro bone spear. I cleared capstone and got tier 3 by lvl 36. This is the best class I've ever played. So far, I have a lvl 84 rogue, lvl 45 sorcerer. Bone spear is where it's at.
I gotta say, this has been probably your most important video for me with Diablo. I’ve gotten so wrapped up in trying to be efficient and get to higher tiers faster and all that, that I forgot to try to play what I wanted to. Time to change the builds of both characters to something more fun and abnormal.
I did the same with my frost sorcerer. My own build my way and it's so fun. I got my own ideas and using what aspects I like. Following a build on my rogue was rather boring so changed it up with my sorcerer.
Exactly how I play the game. That's the whole fun of an arpg, coming up with an insane build yourself that can break the game. The only thing I look up are certain mechanic interactions, like Necromancer minions for example, so much is bugged or not explained well, so I look that stuff up, so I can figure out what I want to apply to my build.
Bro you are so refreshing character on UA-cam. I get fed up with youtubers chasing clicks and selling us i have best build guides. I salute you 🫡 watching your videos everyday keeping up great work
This. Absolutely this. My wife and I are running co-op through the campaign and loving it. Not taking it seriously, using gear that we think looks good, picking skills we like the sound of, and we are having a blast.
Exactly what I'm doing. Started with a meteor sorc in eternal before s1 then started a blizz sorc and now I'm gonna try a light sorc and then I wanna combine all three in a random build and see how it goes. I wanna see the benefits of each first and see what uniques really boost the builds and seeing what aspects just excel the most.
exactly. everyone i know who has this game blitzed it as fast as possible to max level, while i casually explored every nook and cranny of the map, spoke to all the npc's, looked for familiar areas that could possibly be from previous game etc. I'm still playin it while everyone else hasn't logged on in weeks.
I have never ever went online to read a build. When I played magic the gathering as a kid I never ever wanted to have the pro deck that someone built, when I played WoW while everyone was playing a frost mage I played a Fire mage because this is what I personally wanted to do. I never aimed to be competetive in games and I never tried to be the first at sometihing within a game, this is exactly why I had loads of fun with every single game I have played. Happy to hear you are doing the same :) I played the main story in Diablo IV, player a little bit more after it while it made sense to me and I stopped at level 48 since that was the last moment I felt like I did something meaningful in the game. I made a new character in the season and played a veeeery low amount of time because the main quest got repetetive and I did not have fun. If there is meaningful content in the future that is actually fun I will play again.
I have been saying this since literally DAY ONE. I have been doing this since the very start. I have a 100 necro and a 60 barb from before seasons and now I have a 63 S1 Rogue with a jenky rapidfire build. None of my builds are min maxed and I have just had a great time. No its not a perfect game. Yes the end game is lacking, but leveling and killing monsters is FUN if you just let it be fun. Next I am going to play sorc and then probably a HC druid. But also, I will play BG3 and Armored Core and Starfield... games = fun. If you can't find a way to make D4 fun, then just move on to the next game. If you played it long enough to get to the end of the story and into the real end game, then you probably paid at max 2 bucks an hour to play. If you made it to lvl 75, 1 dollar and if you made it to lvl 100, 50 cents an hour 😀
This is exactly how i first played the game on my sorc. I started out with an incinerate build and found out for myself that the ability looked pretty sweet, but was underwhelming. I then swapped to a fireball build and tried out the triple fireball unique and had an absolute blast with it as i got to wt4. It was at that point i swapped to the firewall build in the endgame and had a bunch of fun watching everthing burn. I prolonged the amount of fun i had with the game and am doing the exact same strategy in season 1 on a necro.
I play this game the exact same way and I love it. At the moment, I am playing a Swap weapons Barbarian, using all 3 weapon types for damage bonus. And I use Leap too! I am having so much fun.
When I first started Diablo 4 I knew what I wanted to do, which is vibe, have fun and not rush anything. The only try-hardy thing I've done so far is finding a build online that suited what I wanted for my character (Reaper/Sever Darkness, Blood, basically as edgy as possible). It's been fun despite sifting through many Legendary Aspects and figuring out which one I actually need. Except lately I don't actually want to read all that and give myself a headache, so I just throw them in a chest and decide if I'm doing a NM dungeon, maybe Whispers, Renown farm or just riding around in the PVP area creeping on players and tripping over dust as I run away if they move a pixel towards me. Most times, I just sit there and appreciate my Necromancer because she's beautiful. I love myself so I decided how I wanted to have my fun with the game. So far it's been really good, and I look forward to finishing my shift knowing I've got plenty to do in the game while I listen to music and do my nails. Respect to the hardcore players and "try-hards", I wish I was like you but also I don't. After all it's your time and mental health you're using, not mine. Most importantly, at the end of the day, it's really not that deep
Good for you DM! I've been playing it that way as well, even taking my time to get to world tier 3 because I'm getting to explore the class, the skills and the items which drop. Take what I get and try to have fun with it. Enjoy your gameplay and I hope you the best with the streaming. Don't Die again!
Much respect. I played the necro in s1 and didn’t really follow a guide and I’m having a blast. Bone prison, corpse tendrils, corpse explo, reaper and scythe. And the hearts that auto run the corpse skills and decrepify. And I have a blast. Walk thru teir 3. I think the the highest ND I did solo is like 7 so far.
Hell yeah! I for one am glad to see a personality like yourself... In the eyes of the public ... Taking a step back and enjoying the game . 🎉🎉🎉 Have some fun dude.as a spectator, i look forward to this change... At Least until a season where it counts.
Ive been saying this from the start. I did the whole min max thing in D3. It gets old. I'm currently going through season one with a stun grenade/ice build on my rogue and I'm having a blast!
i 110% agree with you , i still remember the old days when you buy a game and just play it , there was no tips to find on the internet , it was just you and the raw game and it was hell of fun because you had to discouver and find out everything yourself
I am Barbarian for Season 1. I was a Lunging Strike, WW, HOTA in the beginning. It was boring. Than I switched to a Bleed/Rupture Barbarian, and it's been the most fun I've had. Racing to stack as much Bleed as possible to use Rupture 1 time to kill Elites/Boss. I've forsaken all BiS gear for Attack Speed. I've had no issues so far, other than finding attack speed gear.
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i agree playing the way you want is cool... but the game is designed to be a grind fest so its like they make you min max or you just wasting time
HOW DARE YOU HAVE A REASONABLE TAKE, DM!?
HOW DARE YOU HAVE FUN!?
Weirdly enough all my friends who are super casual refuse to make a build in D4 without a guide. They argued with me so many times on this it baffles me. :D Otherwise common sense dictates you are right. I am hardcore, but don't use guides.
My Minion build: Army of dead, iron golem, reapers, ice mages, corpse tendrils, corpse explosion, bloodmist. Howl from below, mendeln, frost boots. Super fun! Corpse tendril spam, hold slam, corpse explosion, buff minions on CD. Spec into transfusion. Minions go harrrrd. 😂 BTW, to hell with shadow builds. Physical and frost all the way.
I am going back to play poe 2 when it comes out. I got burnt out on poe 1. Only games I played in last few years is poe d3 d2 d4 and Diablo immortal.
Little did he know he was in the final hours of this character’s life. RIP 3rd Necro
Lmao
that's golden
What? He died again? New meme incoming I guess lol.
Ouch bro
Ironic
"have to play 5d chess with diablo 4 to find fun in the game" -stronghode guy
I remember approaching the game in this way at the beginning and my friends all looking at me like I was an oddity. "You're going to get tired of hitting walls with you free form build"... "you aren't running your build to its full potential".... "id rather the experts tell me how to best make my build than stress out over the paragon board and every item I come across". Nowadays, I'm still having fun and they're complaining almost every week. My argument at the time was making my own character, exploring and trying out new builds was my way of having fun with the game. Following someone else's build to the t was closer to a coloring book simulator, which I'm not a fan of.
i had this same ethos in d4 and went to play POE for the first time with the same thinking and now everything one shots me
U can justify all u want but truth is i cant grind nm dungeons over over on a second char. I did it first play through. Loved it. But thats all i can do
Jesus fucking christ I've been telling people this since launch
@@originoa I was actually running side quests in Khejistan yesterday mid hell tide and a friend said something similar. Honestly, I feel the classes are unique enough for me to do it multiple times. Feels different enough and I draw enjoyment from it :)
@@toxisistsi respect that. Im excited to come back ina few seasons but im good for now. Started diablo 2 its quests and exploration and actual “ gameyness “ is great
Mad respect man. I wish more players had this same mentality. Even on the eternal realm I had no interest in blazing through the game. My buddies were pushing hard for max level and I was sitting there at level 45 and wasn’t even halfway through the campaign. They were losing their minds and hating life grinding nightmare dungeons and I was enjoying my time doing random side quests and exploring the map. Hats off to you man.
Remember on Xbox 360 when there were social games and ranked games? Some people are competitive players, and some people are social players.
I love this so much man. THIS is the way games are intended to be played. THIS is how you make a game 1000 times more enjoyable! Welcome to the 80’s and 90’s folks!
...but with co-op. Playing D4 and Remnant 2 with the boys every weekend and not over thinking it. Follow the fun, fellow gamers. Great vid as always.
It's how I always play ARPGs. I just play around with different builds. Sometimes they suck and sometimes I stumble on something broken, but it's more fun if I figure it out on my own. I don't understand why people use build guides unless they're pushing leaderboards or something.
@@SuperLotussometimes it’s the convenience of it though, sometime I just don’t want spend 30-60 minutes reading up things, I followed build guides and after 20 hours I ended learning about everything I needed to learn about along the way, sometimes it’s how some people learn too, for me I follow build guided especially broken ones because it’s the fact that it’s known to them and I don’t have to waste time trying loads of different things because I like to level up fast enough, I want to level up in 1 month every season so I’m not worrying about making it too 100 every season, plus I still got my eternal realm class still to max out to after the seasonal character and then next month with 2 massive games coming out on xbox so I won’t have time for D4 as much, starfield and motorsport are time killers too
@@carlosmartinez3020sounds like you are slamming through content just to slam through content. The exact opposite of what the message is here. Again you do you...
@@carlosmartinez3020TLDR you have a lot of stuff to try and achieve... So you are slamming through it as fast as possible not taking time to actually play.
This is why you're developing the kind of base you have. You're a chill healthy perspective in a sea of stressed out competitive channels. Great video.
I'm so glad you are spreading this sort of message. I did the same with my Druid, and now at level 75 I have a build that is substantially different from anything I've seen online. It still wrecks house, but more importantly it's still enjoyable to play.
I do wish the season had more than just the hearts and lvl 80 boss though.
DM and everyone else is clearly in the denial and bargaining stage when it comes to the "fun" of D4
@@dbix11I’m glad you recognize you are in the minority…the rest of us are having fun and you min-maxers and no lifers are way too salty about that
What skills are you using?
@@TDubz4
What is the "fun" of D4?
@@dbix11you sound like a fool
I learned this a few years ago and it really applies to almost any rpg. Sometimes It's so much better to just try out a build you think would be cool and see if you can make it work. As cool as one shotting Uber Lilith is, you don't need to play a build like that to enjoy the game.
Exactly. Games are meant to be played that way. They are designed for player exploration. Not players picking an endgame solution and apply it to their game. Thats killing the longevity as well as your moneys worth.
I do the same. I found the Blizzard Ice shard build and have my own spin on it. I like the build a lot and am having a blast.
I do this for years since D2. I'm a casual e most of the build are for who have a lot of time to play. So I play on my way. Oh yeah, I don't give a shit about competition.
Honestly man, if you keep being yourself and honest and stay true to this video, you will be one of the best content creators and people will follow you for years to come. Glad I found your channel and look forward to future games
agreed! Be what other people aren't, your other channel is great for that too. this channel is named after D4, but it could simply mean D4 was a means to a quality channel about enjoying stuff for the fun of it.
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I just witnessed a man simp another man
@@rogero8443 If you are interested in watching this guy do more than just d4 stuff, he has a second channel for that called Darth Microtransaction. Hope this helps other people who didn't know about this.
fellas, is it gay to give a compliment?
THIS!!!!!! Been watching your content and this hits home. I tend to watch some build videos just to see how other people look at the paragon board, get some inspiration, and do my own thing with it. Thank you for posting this one! Hopefully the devs continue to expand build versatility.
The diablo community would be much better if they all had the same mindset as you. If only more people would be like you. Never change.
all of gaming would be better.
Well yes, but if you need to make a Video, of how a game could be fun, that speaks for itself
Isn't it a problem when everyone acts the same, regardless who they're coping
... or if they didn't release games in alpha state.
@@Mytelefe people would still copy paste guides
For me the way I’ve been having fun with S1 is I’m using the season journey to give me clear goals, and once I’ve achieved that I think it will be time to take a break and play other games until S2 begins.
100%, i think leaderboards will take this to the next level also
I'm doing this, and not rushing. Heck, only just hit level 42 today! We have 3 times as long to get anything done. Totally loving the Necro 'afk' Hearts btw!
same except my goal after the season journey is to level my eternal character to 100.
@@an1sosa405 they’ve said new content is specifically coming to complement the leaderboards. What you say is true now, but will be less so by S3.
@@stephymink I'm scared to start a necro because I think the hearts would make me spoiled when the season is over. I do hope they add at least the auto-raise heart effect to one of the +max minion aspects after though.
This is how you have fun. Me and my friends do look up some things we need to know but make your own build, play whats fun, and its still fun to play.
This. Make your own build and play style. I’m trying to stay away from guides and tutorials because the game is more fun when you create rather than copy.
This is EXACTLY what we need! More insane variety and ways to push the game into "fun" rather than the end game. Keep up this type of content PLEASE.
its one take not more content lol
@@steadychasingmoneybands6213 I'm interested in hearing more takes like this (mindsets which more easily enable having fun with the game). That is exactly, precisely in line with the definition of content. What are you trying to get at? Your statement is vague and confusing.
It seems like,(atleast imo) very few people are playing diablo 4 right at all. I play in a duo with my wife and we gear and build to compliment eachother. Our first builds were, druid pulverize with emphasis on crit and overpower, and an ice sorcerer. She would freeze swaths of enemies and i would smash them. It was a hoot! Now we are running minion necro with 13 mobs and blood lance, paired with a marksman rogue. The minions tie up everything and she blasts them with targeted damage. We are having a blast so far. Theres the team build option that is totally overlooked.
You put a smile on my face and you are so right! Min-maxing makes me feel burnt out so quickly. I reached lv 80 yesterday and today I don't even feel like opening the game for some reason.
Yep I have two lvl 75s and just created a 3rd character.. I just see no point at all in grinding NM dungeons to 100. I’ll play each character to 75/80 an then hopefully they have some new content by then🤷🏻♂️
I love this take. I also find that the closer I get to trying to min/max the further away I get from the fun. I just prefer to make up my own objectives about build experimentation, dungeon crawling, etc.
how to have fun: don’t play the game 12h a day as if it was your job + don’t follow what others say is fun, do it your way
The best builds I’ve done have been the ones I’ve done using a hunch on what looks fun. Build guides are great but man they make me so on edge all the time trying to look at a build guide screen. Experimenting with the skills is fun. POE? Oh man. I have to use a build guide there.
Build guides should be just that guides that suggest things to swap around if you have a hard time with something. I love finding out what I enjoy and then looking up guides that’s use all those things
You’ve just explained how every game “should” be played by the vast majority of player. ❤️ 👍
Except there's so, so, so many games out there which you can play this exact same way but they offer actual depth and well developed systems.
Your time would be better invested ignorantly leveling blindly and pushing through acts of Path of Exile. You will fail for probably 3-4 seasons straight, but eventually when you begin learning and progressing it will be rewarding... and the game itself will be worth the investment.
Expecting people to zombie brain this game to 'find fun' is a poor approach, because at the end of that road it's still a poorly developed game, with shallow systems. Even a zombie brain is going to eventually realize they're just rerolling one stat at exorbitant prices, and having zero fun.
You gotta have some kids to respect diablo 4 as a casual dad experience. I started off making my own builds. Trying to make incinerate sorc work was hilarious. No it probably won't work endgame but it was fun to try
How does that go? I want to try fire (I like burning everything that moves), but don't want to die every 2 minutes.
I agree man. I'm an aging gamer(42) have little game time. D4 has been great as it reminds me of D1 and D2 and I've been able to progress.
Also as a casual dad I love this game. I get to play some days 30 min, some days hours, life happens. I don’t pay attention to the mega, nice to watch them cuz it’s fun, but by the time I reach that high of a level the mega has already changed. Just enjoying the game, but. Love Darth Micros videos, this man is awesome.
@@BeWater2019 I did fine up to level 25 it was pretty strong early. Kind of fell off but I believe there are some aspects that could make it better later on. Im a sucker for any death beam type sorc build xD. Best advice is do what DM is saying. Its really easy to just remove points if it isn't working out for you and go a different route. By the time I hit 50 I've tried most of the skills and know what I want as far as playstyle. Tier lists and the like have ruined games like WoW for me in the past so I won't let that persuade me what to play again.
@Alone47 I am running a pyromancy sorcerer through the season. At level 58, I am surviving pretty well; I would say better than my rogue, even. All Pyro skills except for teleport for the mobility.
I remember watching you for raid on darth microtransaction what seems like years ago, it definitely hasnt been aslong as i think it has but seeing you elevate yourself so much is inspiring man, youre doing amazing just keep being honest as you are and providing your own take, youve done that since forever so i know you will (: youre a legend man, thanks for getting me through life. Struggling real hard at the moment so seeing an upload from you always makes my day (:
Playing a shred druid with poison creeper. Been making it up as I go along and adjusting here and there based on what legendaries drop. Very fun and very tanky so far. Failed the capstone at level 41 (could not get pass the boss) but made some changes, got more tanky and leveled up to 47 and then took down the boas without using a health potion. It was very fun and satisfying knowing I made the changes necessary and not some dude on youtube. Great content. Love your channel.
Happy to see you having fun, hope that you can see this is the best way to have fun playing a game, even when leaderboards and such come out, actually play it, not just "perform" a color-by-numbers by following a "build".
I'm >30 and asked myself why I wasn't enjoying games as much anymore and it all came down to not having every possible min-max or solution blasted at me, it just wasn't possible when I was a kid. Now I enjoying games just as much as when I was younger.
My advice to everyone: slow down and enjoy the content as you encounter it naturally. I still watch youtube videos and even guides about the games I play (since then I get the experience the games even when I can't play them) but I don't go out of my way to copy them. When I'm playing the game my attention is totally on experiencing the game first-hand as it comes to me. It's such a better way to enjoy gaming, I'm glad when I was a kid it was the only way so I could so I got to experience it and to come back to later in life.
I completely agree! The end game isn’t polished and social aspects are practically non-existent so I haven’t seen any point in grinding for Uber uniques. I’ve had more fun going in blind and trying new builds
I've had a blast playing my Necro this season. I tried to come up with a fun build using the new hearts and aspects and I found something that is not only incredibly fun but also pretty damn strong! I think people are getting so hung up on looking up meta builds that they are missing the best part of Diablo, coming up with cool unique builds. I was surprised how many other builds were viable and so much more fun than the standard min max builds.
This was the perfect video for the current state of D4. Thanks brotha
This guy has great advice, I want the same thing out of the game that he does. I’m having a lot of fun, if I only play it for a couple months there’s nothing wrong with that, I got a backlog of games I have to finish so when D4 gets stale, I’m out and on to the next
That’s true for every game in existence. Looking up guides and minmaxing your playtime just turns playing the game into a chore.
what made my d4 gaming experience way more fun was a simple thing. movement speed. the faster my character was, the more fun it was for me. and sure, screw guides, do what works for you.
Same, Boots gotta have + Charges & Ms. Amulet has to have + MS as well.
So true. Movement speed on my amulet was a game changer. It helps keep you alive in pvp and pve as well.
It reminded me of d3, many more enjoyable interactions when you can literally choose to dip the battle and just sprint away from the mob
I feel this so much. With a wife and kid I don't have much time to game so I end up watching/listening to more video game content than I actually play.
By the time I actually get to sit down and play the game, all of the enjoyment of discovering a game for myself is gone.
Here's to the good ol' days of just playing a game for yourself and not worrying about how "good" you are at it.
I have a wife and kids too and I can't wait to get home and ignore them and play this lol. Naw in all seriousness I can't grind and whiteboard and spreadsheet like I'd want to, but it is fun to run around and do random stuff while completely tweaking my build mid-dungeon. It is fun af
I'm bored of D4 already. That being said it is a great game for Dad's. Easy to run dungeons casually and instantly set the controller down when my daughter needs me. Bladurs Gate and Remnant are both fantastic.
@@snazzynasty1493 Man Baldur's Gate looks great but that might take me literal years to get through😂
@@Jesstacles years to get through just the first playthrough. Got a quarter chode just thinking about it.
God I wish more people would play like this, would bring fun back to gaming
while i agree with what he's saying, i also understand nobody is stopping you from doing this. or that other people min-maxing shouldn't make the game less fun for you
@@saucymoon7134 it’s not the min maxers that kill the mood it’s just when the whole game becomes min Maxy with everyone running the same icyveins build that gets boring
This is true. I did it this on my first character on the eternal realm too. I'm still only level 82 but it's so much more enjoyable to me
Love this take! I'm the only one in my group that homebrewed my builds S0 & S1, and I'm the only one still actively playing and having fun with it
One of the biggest lessons for ALL modern gamers in ALL games: try to actually play games for fun and relax, don't obsess over minmaxing, don't try to be the best of all time immediately even if it *IS* a competitive game, try to actually get fun out of the game and not just push yourself immediately into a pool of anger, stress and disappointment
In chasing the minmaxed build, people forgot how to have fun. When they are not getting the right items, they start feeling frustrated and the negative complaints start.
Just play the game and forget about all the minmaxing for a bit. Explore your own creative build ideas. Then maybe, they can start having fun again.
You are everything that’s not wrong with todays gaming community. I hope more people take a learning from you. ❤
Yep! He’s exactly right. Games should be fun, NOT a chore.
i did the exact same thing, DM. I would look up build guides, watch youtube vids on which build was cool and tried each one. last night i went on my lv89 rogue, deleted all my shit in the inventory, respec'd on both skill tree and paragon board. i took my lv51 season character, and i am currently running a setup based on the legendaries and affixes I have when i got the drop. so much more fun this way! played the story this way too and almost forgot about doing it when I reached tier 4 and started grinding dungeons for gear and the "best" build. it really destroyed the game for me, but playing how you are is a hell of a lot more fun. keep doing what your doing bro.
That's how I'm playing it since day one, correcting mistakes on the go and learning without paying much attention on all those videos and sites, sure I had a few wtf moments, but overall is pretty fun.
Kudos to your honest take man.
So glad to see you make a video on this topic. I dont mind being competitive in the right context but you have to be prepared to admit that sometimes its just not worth it for your own enjoyment, and thats okay.
Maybe this is why I've thoroughly enjoyed all 150+ hrs I've spent as opposed to allegedly so many people. I plan my builds out, do some tweaking or full reworks, but all myself. I find what's fun and what I want to achieve and do it. Same with exploring and dungeons. I just set out and do something. Sometimes for the hell of it, sometimes with a purpose.
Freaking love this game.
Yeah it’s like people beg for release, speed through the content with walkthroughs and guides, then complain it’s easy and short. When dlc?
And they do it again and again
Ive looked up one video about bg3 to see how it plays etc, and already I see guides pop up, how to play, best party selection, and all that stuff. These channels prey on people that are hyped for the new game when it comes out. And in the meantime spoil it for them. Best way to play bg3? Or any game for that matter. Go in blind!
@murray821 The key difference being that BG3 is a completely tailored experience, following a guide is almost impossible. Not to mention the game has RNG elements which means some things literally cannot be the same.
Not only that but BG3 has hundreds of hours of base content and 17000 permutations of gamestate so the replay factor is off the charts.
Diablo 4 has literally zero end game. There's nothing to do past level 60. Grinding NM dungeons for the sake of it isn't rewarding or engaging, it's just bad game design.
I just made a human druid build that mimics Crone through Earth Spike and Stormstrike, but instead of resetting bulwark, I'm pumping 75% lucky hit to reset the new creeper aspect. It's so damn fun. Sometimes I get to just hold the creeper button down and it just flies for like 3 seconds straight on bosses. Good call, dude.
100%, man. I was just telling my buddy this. At launch(and the start of this season) I was following maxroll guides and getting frustrated I wasn't getting certain rolls, I was going through the motions renown grinding, etc... but at one point on one of my alts I actually started listening to one of the quests, got interested and by the end I was like 'damn that was kind of a good story for side quest.' After that, I continued paying attention and enjoying myself/ignoring build guides and its been a really enjoyable experience. It's to the point where I feel like it's a shame people aren't taking their time to experience a lot of the touches that have been put on the world/story because of the current ARPG paradigm that people cant seem to get out of(and in most cases seem to want their cake and eat it too) - I love ARPGs(yes, including Path), but sometimes we just have to let a game be a game.
I feel like this is what started happening with MMOs after WoW; an MMO would come out, everyone would jump on it, rush to max level and then complain there wasn't enough content or the game wasn't as good as WoW because [xyz], forgetting that most of us didn't have build guides and quest markers and boss guides when WoW came out. We had to experience the game throughout a leveling journey and THAT is part of what made it great.
Anyway, love the content. Thanks for the positivity and keep it up!
Aint no way that people who havent seen your videos are having more fun. You my friend are 100% gold to watch
That’s how I played the game when it launched with Druid. I threw together a build that used Crone staff, Temerity with Pulverize, Claw and Bulwark. The gear affixes were all over the place and the build still pushed almost to NM60 without a guide.
Then I played a Rogue following a guide to see how the pros out a build together which I modified to fit my play style and I am happy.
When the new patch hits I am moving on to Barbarian, no guides, going to base it off what I did back in the early access beta and run a dual basic build and stack guaranteed overpowered bursts. It doesn’t matter if overpower builds are weak or not, what matters more is if they are fun to play and I suspect it will be.
Power leveled a Sorc to 83 in the first few days of s1. Kept trying to find the best builds / tips. Now playing a druid max. 1-2 hours a day and it feels SO much better and I'm enjoying logging on and just doing whatever to get some exp / f around with builds. 1000% agree with you.
I'm glad people can enjoy theory crafting still. Personally, though, this is not for me. Played minion builds already on Necro and it just frustrated me to play a weak build.
Now I'm playing Bone Spear and I can actually enjoy myself.
Playing that way is how I found your channel. I completed a bear build blind and then looked up builds after i got as far as I could with it.
Now, in season 1, I'm experimenting with Rogue and concussion grenades. It's all traps and cutthroat skills with tons of invisible uptime. Great AoE and lots of stuns on bosses. Got to WT3 at L44. 51 now and it's just getting better.
There is no reason to look stuff up unless you're really, really stuck.
Really appreciate your take here. I was pushing and know I need to adjust my focus. Thank you.
This video was refreshingly honest and rhymes with my recent experience in a way that was very validating. Thanks for this.
Finally someone I hear using no Core skills... Like, I did My Barby to start off the first take, and saw that every build recomendation on web was about "Whirlwind". And so I payed atenttion to it, all the mecanichs and players, PvP and on the map (yeah... It all seems to confirm it's the obvious). But since I got to the WepMastry Death Blow, I just loved the animation and acction it brings to the fights, Whirlwind don't do it... Not for me at least, so I started just wondering about my lack of need for Fury... But so long, it has brought me a Nice experience, even thou it seems the best play is the other, the competitions are only on PvP, so it sucks ass Blizrd won't let play without PsPlus... I have to wait for freeforall seasons 😢
Same! I tried this on Barb pre-season and hit a brick wall, but this was before I understood damage buckets and other stats. Now I've committed to a ranged Rogue, landed on RF/Rain of Arrows and it's been pretty fun. I'm starting to hit the boredom wall at 75, but I can promise I wouldn't have made it to level 30 following some TB meta guide. If this game was more intuitive for build experimentation and diversity, it would help a lot. Rogue is pretty okay for this it seems, but I can imagine something like off meta Sorc would be tough.
I left off at 53 with my fury/ww barb. It was pretty fun.
Build guides are made by humans like u and me. In season I play Necro. The meta necro build changed alot about weekly.
And I don't care. They focused on total armor and a armor (magic node buffing glyph).
IMHO I went less total armor and more movement speed, because I thought faster = more fun for me. And dieing I don't care.
Now the guide got changed and guess what movement speed is superior and they changed the glyph.
I get inspired by builds but I play my style and that is the only thing you should use build guides IMHO.
Just have fun!
I started my Season 1 journey as a minion Necromancer. It was fun, but in World Tier 3 I felt it falling off and that something wasn't right. I can't really say what it was. Maybe the lack of exactly targeting enemies for my minions. But their damage and survivability also felt off. I tried changing skills and stuff around, but couldn't really alleviate my concerns.
Then I switched to a Corpse Tendrils + Explosions + Sever build and I am having fun. Now, I do look at guides from time to time. This is mostly just as a point of reference though and a little help with the Paragon Board. The build is still adjusted to what I have fun with.
I shortly switched to the pure Infinimist Necrobuild, didn't have fun with it, switched back to my current build and yep, having fun again.
Though I wish I could make a minion build work. But resetting Paragon Boards is a pain, which makes me less enthusiastic about experimenting,
Completely agree. I look up a build just to get a sense of the playstyle I want to use. Then I made tweaks and adjustments as I see fit. Mainly to save time trying to figure out the best abilities to synergise
imagine being so dead inside that you can have fun in a Lizzard game
I am not one to comment on UA-cam videos but I thought what you said is the best advice I have heard from any content creator. I am a 56 year old male and am a casual player mostly weekends and have played all Diablo games. I played all D4 betas played through the campaign reached level 70 sorceresses and am level 50 in season one and am enjoying it as much as day one doing excellently as you just said. I find it more fun to figure things out and learn on my own and do what I want in the open world. Thank you keep up with the good content.
Mad respect for this take DM, I have done the same thing for this season. I pushed hard pre-season got to 100 and was burning out already. So for season 1, no build guides, had an idea for a character, and that's what I'm doing. Will it be min-maxed no probably not. I just hit 58 last night (I started another character got them to 50 but wasn't having fun so I restarted) Been having fun again playing this way, too often we seem to forget Video Games should be fun, if your not having fun, find something that is fun.
Enjoy your content man. My preseason build, I experimented on my own til I came at a dead end at lvl 88. It was a crap build but it was my own and D4 is the first game of its kind that I ever played. It was really fun. Now, I wanted to have an OP build and I’ve been sucked into the Min/max loop. The only thing fun about it is that I don’t struggle nearly as much in dungeons lol.
That’s pretty much the same approach I’ve taken and I’m really enjoying it.
I have consumed a fair amount of “best build for X” stuff, but NOT to copy & paste or min/max; I use the info to help solidify my understanding of the synergies and try to make new ones as I go.
First of all, thanks for your honest view and opinions in your videos. My buddy convinced me to play Diablo and this is the first time i ever played such type of games and he was pushing it to the maximum right from the start and told me what to invest in and what to look out for. I enjoyed only the story, leveling was boring and running the same dungeons was boring to. The time we talked during sessions was the most pleasant thing that game offers me btw i started with the hunter class an he with the druid and i quitted a couple weeks ago around level 83. He asked if i would play the season and i only agreed with him by not spoiling anything and picking up new classes and develop our own builds and doing quests and stuff we find along the way. I totally agree with you and now i'm enjoying the game more. Greetings from germany and have a nice day.
As a casual player how get about 1 or 2 hours most nights per week to play, im really enjoying the season. I tried out the druid in free form builds just exploring different build combos, which sucked in the first few level. I finally settled on something i liked around level 30. Im around level 60 right now and really really enjoying the game. This is the most enjoyable i have played this game.
im running corpse explosion/tendrils/bone storm/decompose/bone spirit. having a blast at level 70. definitely my fave thing about necro, you can get creative with your build
Great attitude to have! The competitive gaming is for the pros. ARPGs are meant to be a fun journey where you enjoy the gameplay for what it is. Far too many people want to skip the journey to rush to the end. You will see this in every game.
In POE, I level a character to red maps then move on to the next character if I’m enjoying the league.
In D4 season 1, I am playing a Necromancer main, but am playing around with all the other classes. I only played for two weeks before the season started, so I’m catching up learning the classes. I’m in no hurry, just enjoying the game mechanics.
Love it. I started a lightning druid without knowing anything about it. Really enjoy to experiment with different options.
I’m commend you sir! I get into discussions with ppl on the same matter. They ask why. I say because I’m having fun. Discovering the builds and gear myself is what’s fun to me. And if I’m having a difficult time at the very end then I MIGHT look. But I typically keep up on my own.
Side note, I tend to not use 1 or 2 spell slots.
This is what I ended up doing. I was playing rogue, found a rapid fire flurry guide, stomped everything, reset dungeons, and was slowly getting bored of the seasons when word of Hakan dropped. Now I'm playing a worse build and having more fun because I love dumping huge multicolored rains of arrows and living out my ranger fantasy. It's great!
Sure I looked up how to make the build work but I'm not worried about being the most efficient and I'm making tweaks based on my playstyle and it's been a blast to just run around and have fun with the game doing whatever I feel like, even though it's slower.
Thats a healthy approach. I did the same thing at the start of season 1. But then when i hit 70 i started minmaxing with guides and stuff and i couldnt find a reason to log in when i was 77. So i rerolled a sorceress and im just going with the flow, trying stuff out as i go, and now i have a reason to log in again.
You're my favorite content creator currently. Playing Diablo IV how I've wanted since drop just like you. Only a casual player with about 70 hours in with 2 level 60's one play thru story. Excited for POE2 next year but still enjoying Diablo IV the way you are as well.
How to have fun... Play rogue.. The end.
I play necro bone spear. I cleared capstone and got tier 3 by lvl 36. This is the best class I've ever played. So far, I have a lvl 84 rogue, lvl 45 sorcerer. Bone spear is where it's at.
Druid
I gotta say, this has been probably your most important video for me with Diablo. I’ve gotten so wrapped up in trying to be efficient and get to higher tiers faster and all that, that I forgot to try to play what I wanted to. Time to change the builds of both characters to something more fun and abnormal.
I did the same with my frost sorcerer. My own build my way and it's so fun. I got my own ideas and using what aspects I like. Following a build on my rogue was rather boring so changed it up with my sorcerer.
Great message DM, seriously. Very happy for you that you’re getting a following, keep it up buddy
Exactly how I play the game. That's the whole fun of an arpg, coming up with an insane build yourself that can break the game.
The only thing I look up are certain mechanic interactions, like Necromancer minions for example, so much is bugged or not explained well, so I look that stuff up, so I can figure out what I want to apply to my build.
since i start diablo ive made my own build and will continue to make my own builds cuz its fun and i hate following someone else
Bro, your seeing zeros & ones at this point! 👏🏼👏🏼
Bring back the fun of just playing.
Respect 👍🏻
Bro you are so refreshing character on UA-cam. I get fed up with youtubers chasing clicks and selling us i have best build guides. I salute you 🫡 watching your videos everyday keeping up great work
This. Absolutely this.
My wife and I are running co-op through the campaign and loving it. Not taking it seriously, using gear that we think looks good, picking skills we like the sound of, and we are having a blast.
Exactly what I'm doing. Started with a meteor sorc in eternal before s1 then started a blizz sorc and now I'm gonna try a light sorc and then I wanna combine all three in a random build and see how it goes. I wanna see the benefits of each first and see what uniques really boost the builds and seeing what aspects just excel the most.
exactly. everyone i know who has this game blitzed it as fast as possible to max level, while i casually explored every nook and cranny of the map, spoke to all the npc's, looked for familiar areas that could possibly be from previous game etc.
I'm still playin it while everyone else hasn't logged on in weeks.
I'm happy to see you having a great time. Makes my experience better. Thank you, sincerely. You rock man.
I have never ever went online to read a build. When I played magic the gathering as a kid I never ever wanted to have the pro deck that someone built, when I played WoW while everyone was playing a frost mage I played a Fire mage because this is what I personally wanted to do. I never aimed to be competetive in games and I never tried to be the first at sometihing within a game, this is exactly why I had loads of fun with every single game I have played. Happy to hear you are doing the same :) I played the main story in Diablo IV, player a little bit more after it while it made sense to me and I stopped at level 48 since that was the last moment I felt like I did something meaningful in the game. I made a new character in the season and played a veeeery low amount of time because the main quest got repetetive and I did not have fun. If there is meaningful content in the future that is actually fun I will play again.
I have been saying this since literally DAY ONE. I have been doing this since the very start. I have a 100 necro and a 60 barb from before seasons and now I have a 63 S1 Rogue with a jenky rapidfire build. None of my builds are min maxed and I have just had a great time. No its not a perfect game. Yes the end game is lacking, but leveling and killing monsters is FUN if you just let it be fun. Next I am going to play sorc and then probably a HC druid. But also, I will play BG3 and Armored Core and Starfield... games = fun. If you can't find a way to make D4 fun, then just move on to the next game. If you played it long enough to get to the end of the story and into the real end game, then you probably paid at max 2 bucks an hour to play. If you made it to lvl 75, 1 dollar and if you made it to lvl 100, 50 cents an hour 😀
this is why i really enjoy and subscribed to your content.. you keep it real across the board. reasonable and entertaining!!! Stay Gold!
yeah for real! have fun everyone! don’t take life so seriously- the joy is in the journey not the destination.
This is exactly how i first played the game on my sorc. I started out with an incinerate build and found out for myself that the ability looked pretty sweet, but was underwhelming. I then swapped to a fireball build and tried out the triple fireball unique and had an absolute blast with it as i got to wt4. It was at that point i swapped to the firewall build in the endgame and had a bunch of fun watching everthing burn. I prolonged the amount of fun i had with the game and am doing the exact same strategy in season 1 on a necro.
I’ve played since Diablo 3 launch. I have never looked up any guides and I have had a blast.
DM, love your positivity man, it’s so refreshing. Keep up the good work!
I play this game the exact same way and I love it. At the moment, I am playing a Swap weapons Barbarian, using all 3 weapon types for damage bonus. And I use Leap too! I am having so much fun.
The only Diablo 4 content creator I watch. Keep the good vibes flowing DM ❤
When I first started Diablo 4 I knew what I wanted to do, which is vibe, have fun and not rush anything. The only try-hardy thing I've done so far is finding a build online that suited what I wanted for my character (Reaper/Sever Darkness, Blood, basically as edgy as possible). It's been fun despite sifting through many Legendary Aspects and figuring out which one I actually need. Except lately I don't actually want to read all that and give myself a headache, so I just throw them in a chest and decide if I'm doing a NM dungeon, maybe Whispers, Renown farm or just riding around in the PVP area creeping on players and tripping over dust as I run away if they move a pixel towards me. Most times, I just sit there and appreciate my Necromancer because she's beautiful.
I love myself so I decided how I wanted to have my fun with the game. So far it's been really good, and I look forward to finishing my shift knowing I've got plenty to do in the game while I listen to music and do my nails. Respect to the hardcore players and "try-hards", I wish I was like you but also I don't. After all it's your time and mental health you're using, not mine. Most importantly, at the end of the day, it's really not that deep
Good for you DM! I've been playing it that way as well, even taking my time to get to world tier 3 because I'm getting to explore the class, the skills and the items which drop. Take what I get and try to have fun with it. Enjoy your gameplay and I hope you the best with the streaming. Don't Die again!
This exactly. I've NEVER looked up a build I just try to build what I like.
Much respect. I played the necro in s1 and didn’t really follow a guide and I’m having a blast. Bone prison, corpse tendrils, corpse explo, reaper and scythe. And the hearts that auto run the corpse skills and decrepify. And I have a blast. Walk thru teir 3. I think the the highest ND I did solo is like 7 so far.
Hell yeah!
I for one am glad to see a personality like yourself... In the eyes of the public ... Taking a step back and enjoying the game .
🎉🎉🎉
Have some fun dude.as a spectator, i look forward to this change... At Least until a season where it counts.
Ive been saying this from the start. I did the whole min max thing in D3. It gets old. I'm currently going through season one with a stun grenade/ice build on my rogue and I'm having a blast!
i 110% agree with you , i still remember the old days when you buy a game and just play it , there was no tips to find on the internet , it was just you and the raw game and it was hell of fun because you had to discouver and find out everything yourself
I am Barbarian for Season 1. I was a Lunging Strike, WW, HOTA in the beginning. It was boring. Than I switched to a Bleed/Rupture Barbarian, and it's been the most fun I've had. Racing to stack as much Bleed as possible to use Rupture 1 time to kill Elites/Boss. I've forsaken all BiS gear for Attack Speed. I've had no issues so far, other than finding attack speed gear.
This video makes me so happy. Subbed because this is the kind of content gaming needs