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    The Toyota GT86, the Subaru BRZ, and the Scion FRS--the tuning trifecta that helped define the meaning of ‘driving experience.” With famed Tetsuya Tada at the helm, and a Subaru Boxer engine under its bonnet, the 86 took off from Japan, splashed into the European and American Automotive markets, and ushered in a new era of young drivers and enthusiasts. Of all its accolades, the GT86 just lacked one thing...power babeh!
    Join James Pumphrey as we explore the Toyota GT86, and answer the infamous automotive dilemma, “does making a faster car, mean making a better car?”
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  • @Donut
    @Donut  4 роки тому +576

    Is the buff horses shirt BUFF ENUFF? 💪🐴
    donut.media/products/buff-horses-t-shirt

    • @phrg8332
      @phrg8332 4 роки тому +4

      What's your guys favorite sedan?

    • @bobbyelmore1734
      @bobbyelmore1734 4 роки тому +8

      Any possibility for a 3xl for a non buff human

    • @MagicMoon2
      @MagicMoon2 4 роки тому +1

      What will you do if made your own car to sell and what standards will you have?

    • @maxwellchristian6929
      @maxwellchristian6929 4 роки тому +3

      I want Barry Bonds steroid level buff horses 💉

    • @GracUntoYou
      @GracUntoYou 4 роки тому

      10:45 hey guys come on no civil wars plzzzz

  • @dimasnugraha4824
    @dimasnugraha4824 4 роки тому +3806

    James: Does faster car make a better car?
    Also James: Showing GT 86 with ferrari engine swap

    • @SCRandall
      @SCRandall 4 роки тому +82

      That's really not a very good example, that car was purpose-built to destroy tires, not be the jack of all trades the BRZ/86 is known for being. Sure, that drift car is better at drifting, but for everything else? I'd take the stock one.

    • @solocamo3654
      @solocamo3654 4 роки тому +161

      @@SCRandall No you wouldn't.

    • @Austinomon
      @Austinomon 4 роки тому +23

      SoloCamo yes we would!!!! Lol

    • @chrisc2920
      @chrisc2920 4 роки тому +63

      Ace Morales no...no you wouldn’t

    • @caseywise9728
      @caseywise9728 4 роки тому +6

      Only bothered cause the first sound clip wasn't a true 86 😭

  • @4GRJ
    @4GRJ 3 роки тому +1662

    And I quote...
    "The 86 teaches the driver."

    • @AFKMeister
      @AFKMeister 3 роки тому +88

      XD bunta

    • @Rejinov
      @Rejinov 3 роки тому +82

      this car is also the car used in the sequel of initialD manga; MFghost.

    • @panzerofzelake3976
      @panzerofzelake3976 3 роки тому +28

      @@Rejinov Yup, still waiting for chapter 74 to get translated

    • @Rejinov
      @Rejinov 3 роки тому +13

      ​@@panzerofzelake3976 at the time you replied that it was already on mangakakalot lol

    • @klauserji
      @klauserji 3 роки тому +22

      @@Rejinov still waiting for takumi to make an appearance lol. So far he's only mentioned.

  • @AugmentedGravity
    @AugmentedGravity 3 роки тому +602

    To me, the fact that the 86 has "less power" than other contemporary sports cars, and is also N/A, just makes it all the more similar to the 86 of old. People criticized that car too for being old and slow, but what a legend and unique driving experience it is and turned out to be.

    • @RemsHusband
      @RemsHusband 3 роки тому +18

      The toyota 86 was created because of initial d and I think that is what people of the car world don't understand about it.

    • @stephendeben1590
      @stephendeben1590 2 роки тому +8

      @@RemsHusband the zn6 was developed to be a spiritual successor to the 80s Corolla GTS and be a cash cow for Toyota and subaru because everyone wants an affordable rwd sports car. What the fuck is initial d?

    • @saintpoli6800
      @saintpoli6800 2 роки тому +7

      I’m hoping for more sleek and simple cars instead of these overly developed ones. N/A with less power with loads of after market options with the ability to drift and built for cheap performance?? Hyped, beyond hyped

    • @jesse584
      @jesse584 2 роки тому +6

      this car doesn't need boat loads of power... It is solid, and a blast to drive. I don't get why people keep saying it needs more power.
      Little thing boots and N/A means all its power is instant and predictable.
      and... tbh, you can do 110kph in 3rd, while giving the high revving japanese engine 'the beans'...
      How much faster does it need to be? 😂

    • @jesse584
      @jesse584 2 роки тому

      @@stephendeben1590 ua-cam.com/video/riI_uwcmJvU/v-deo.html

  • @felixargyle2091
    @felixargyle2091 3 роки тому +796

    basically, the two car companies of the 2 cars Takumi mainly drove, teamed up together just to make the Successor of the Legendary AE86? sounds like a lit collab

    • @makoytombiga3574
      @makoytombiga3574 3 роки тому +9

      Yep

    • @dennismokry258
      @dennismokry258 3 роки тому +9

      Don’t recall Takumi driving a Subi in InitialD, Bunta did..........

    • @Lunatic.Anodyne
      @Lunatic.Anodyne 3 роки тому +85

      @@dennismokry258 I don’t know if ur behind or just forgetting but Bunta told Takumi to switch which car he drove during deliverys ae86 on Mondays and Impreza on Tuesdays

    • @felixargyle2091
      @felixargyle2091 3 роки тому +65

      @@dennismokry258 Nope, to help Takumi improve, Bunta made Takumi drive his Subaru to deliver tofu. That way Takumi would know the weaknesses to his AE86 and at the same time be able to drive a new car

    • @ajemajh
      @ajemajh 2 роки тому +2

      my doctor has one since it was new

  • @FinalMix64
    @FinalMix64 4 роки тому +2806

    James has a tattoo of Bart because he misses Science Garage too.

    • @gusbus8357
      @gusbus8357 4 роки тому +65

      Master Xehanort i need more *SCIENCE*

    • @mariomanuel2422
      @mariomanuel2422 4 роки тому +35

      Gus Bus bring it back!

    • @matthewgribbon653
      @matthewgribbon653 4 роки тому +22

      What happened to it. Did he get fired?

    • @kingnfs1
      @kingnfs1 4 роки тому +72

      @@matthewgribbon653 No, he leaves because he got busy with other things.

    • @jayramirez669
      @jayramirez669 4 роки тому +21

      We all miss it

  • @FrankSerpico29
    @FrankSerpico29 4 роки тому +422

    "Back to school in swerve city." That has to be a Deftones reference!

    • @fakeplasticmike
      @fakeplasticmike 4 роки тому +28

      Also noticed Nolan rocking a Deftones shirt this week

    • @jakebateman3088
      @jakebateman3088 4 роки тому +8

      Nolan was wearing a deftones tee last episode he did

    • @yeetyee7066
      @yeetyee7066 4 роки тому +6

      Duuude the Deftones references recently

    • @deabreu.tattoo
      @deabreu.tattoo 4 роки тому +1

      came here to comment precisely that

    • @kirbybarcena4170
      @kirbybarcena4170 4 роки тому

      Epic lmao

  • @JaspreetSingh-kn5qr
    @JaspreetSingh-kn5qr 3 роки тому +733

    Fast forward to November 18, it didn't get a turbo afterall!

    • @raulbustamante8337
      @raulbustamante8337 3 роки тому +32

      It might come in the later run. They included an OEM oil cooler in the announced model, so perhaps they use this feature to add a turbo in a performance version or whatever. Maybe its just for better cooling the engine at the racetrack XD

    • @shitmit6426
      @shitmit6426 3 роки тому +4

      69 likes lul

    • @impreza0109
      @impreza0109 3 роки тому +2

      And all the better for it.

    • @moldyrefrigerator
      @moldyrefrigerator 3 роки тому +26

      @@raulbustamante8337 They won't add a turbo, an oil cooler is just needed. The current FRS/BRZ's really benefit from one if you take them to the track a good bit.

    • @hyakushiki4406
      @hyakushiki4406 3 роки тому +34

      I like it that way honestly. A blank slate for you to do whatever. Turbo it, yes. Supercharge it, yes. Both, yes. Neither, yes.

  • @lucasebert5083
    @lucasebert5083 4 роки тому +641

    I have a 2013 BRZ (first gen) and it’s honestly one of the best things I’ve ever driven. It may not be fast but getting that thing to whip around a turn is fun af

    • @aymaanreza4152
      @aymaanreza4152 4 роки тому +1

      Bro how much is the price??

    • @coreyvanderhorst9274
      @coreyvanderhorst9274 4 роки тому +11

      @@aymaanreza4152 I bought my 2014 BRZ for $15,500

    • @gerardovergara6693
      @gerardovergara6693 3 роки тому +30

      It’s also going to be a future collectible the 2013 Scion FRS it’s guaranteed so I’m keeping mine and keeping it up to date for the future.

    • @coreyvanderhorst9274
      @coreyvanderhorst9274 3 роки тому +1

      @@ayazmd9312 dunno. I live in the US

    • @pasmoi4233
      @pasmoi4233 3 роки тому

      same number in euro
      it sells between 13 000 and 17 000 euros. Lots a 15 000.
      But because it's phase 1 (2012-2014), and because of the Poppet valve spring recall. (French mecanics are bad: half of them destroys the engine when doing the recall procedure)
      Phase 2 gt86 (2015-2020) are much more expensive.
      And with CO2 tax, i paid mine arround 60 000$ = 51 500 euros. (brand new 2020 gt86).
      Même nombre en euros.
      Elles se vendent entre 13 000 et 17 000 euros. Beaucoup partent a 15 000 euros.
      Mais parceque ce sont des phase 1 (2012-2014), et a cause du problème du rappel des ressorts de soupapes. (toyota victime d'une fraude de l'industrie métallurgique). On n’arrête pas de voir des propriétaire de gt86 dont toyota a cassé le moteur en faisant le rappel de travers ... mais c'est normal, vu la nullité des garagistes français.
      Les gt86 phase 2 sont bien plus chères: généralement plus de 20 000 euros.
      Et la mienne, neuve de 2020, je l'ai payé 51 500 euros, a cause du malus CO2 mensongé. (et de l’absence de logiciel truqueur Volkswagen chez toyota)

  • @brandonyu9602
    @brandonyu9602 4 роки тому +924

    People: we want an 86 with more power.
    Toyota: No
    People: we want a supra with a manual transmission
    Toyota: No

    • @jdowg6
      @jdowg6 4 роки тому +82

      Ok supra part was a dick move on Toyota

    • @Dommy521
      @Dommy521 4 роки тому +86

      "you will take what I got damn give you"

    • @MultiVance123
      @MultiVance123 4 роки тому +19

      Lmao I’m just glad they exist at all

    • @jacksingh8690
      @jacksingh8690 4 роки тому +95

      People: ...
      Toyota: Camry will get a TRD version.

    • @djoraxxxxxx5412
      @djoraxxxxxx5412 4 роки тому +9

      BMW shouldent have made the supra with theyr unreliability and theyr automatic transmissions

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 роки тому +584

    Me: *Hears "Celica"
    **Gets flashbacks of Scotty Kilmer**

    • @kwekumensah5642
      @kwekumensah5642 4 роки тому +11

      dude???? why are you here??

    • @stupidsnek
      @stupidsnek 4 роки тому +11

      @@kwekumensah5642 what are you on about

    • @ash_ridzuan7
      @ash_ridzuan7 4 роки тому +1

      my man wth

    • @michaell6139
      @michaell6139 4 роки тому +2

      I see your even here too

    • @jerow7204
      @jerow7204 4 роки тому +2

      We better make sure Scotty doesn't see this video😂

  • @danielrobinson9402
    @danielrobinson9402 3 роки тому +485

    The fact that he’s so excited about the turbo, but now that they’ve announced there’s no turbo must be so heartbreaking haha

    • @22iskander
      @22iskander 3 роки тому +3

      Really?

    • @danielrobinson9402
      @danielrobinson9402 3 роки тому +20

      @@22iskander yeah they’re just going with a 2.5L engine instead of 2L

    • @stephendeben1590
      @stephendeben1590 2 роки тому +37

      That’s not the point of this car. If you want to go fast in a straight line get a muscle car.

    • @beezelbs_trix
      @beezelbs_trix 2 роки тому +1

      2022 model will include turbo

    • @WorthlessBailey
      @WorthlessBailey Рік тому +10

      @@stephendeben1590 That's a cringe take, every car is made better with some additional power. At least give the turbo version and the NA version and the turbo version will sell more because people want the most fun possible if they're buying a fun car.

  • @shadowblade2149
    @shadowblade2149 4 роки тому +85

    So the Scion is like that one student who does nothing but takes credit in getting involved with the task 😂😂😂

  • @oscartejura4887
    @oscartejura4887 4 роки тому +388

    “311 million dollar steak”
    James just guessed mr beasts next video

  • @DILLYBAR31869
    @DILLYBAR31869 4 роки тому +865

    Hear me out:
    High-Low BRZ and 86

    • @Und34d_R
      @Und34d_R 4 роки тому +56

      Would be cool to see which was the least slow

    • @Sunsettoo.-
      @Sunsettoo.- 4 роки тому +2

      @taur HAHAHHAHAHAH

    • @Billothy69
      @Billothy69 4 роки тому

      meh

    • @nsaicharan1
      @nsaicharan1 4 роки тому +10

      How about
      Boosted BRZ vs NA build 86.

    • @DILLYBAR31869
      @DILLYBAR31869 4 роки тому +4

      @@nsaicharan1 LS Swap VS. Forced Induction

  • @gav6189
    @gav6189 2 роки тому +22

    I got my BRZ a few months ago. It doesn't need more power from the factory. It's perfect for tearing around town. You can actually floor it without going to jail. I love it.

  • @rubenoliveros566
    @rubenoliveros566 2 роки тому +56

    His excitement for a turbo Brz/Gr86 didn’t age well😭

  • @Tanstin1
    @Tanstin1 4 роки тому +697

    "Today we're going to be doing the GT86"
    LESS POWAH BABY

  • @purplegoosebumpsgaming
    @purplegoosebumpsgaming 4 роки тому +484

    Huge fan of this show. My wife and I watch y'all together.

    • @PACKERMAN2077
      @PACKERMAN2077 4 роки тому +82

      Huge fan of your family, I watch your wife and you together. 🙃

    • @ARDEN440i
      @ARDEN440i 4 роки тому +40

      You have a cool wife. My gold fish never watches videos with me.

    • @darielrodriguez4555
      @darielrodriguez4555 4 роки тому +2

      J E that’s a fat mood🥺

    • @oz88og40
      @oz88og40 4 роки тому

      Same here

    • @incesteagle1212
      @incesteagle1212 4 роки тому +6

      @@PACKERMAN2077 Huge fan of you, I watch you.

  • @tnscorpion3879
    @tnscorpion3879 3 роки тому +38

    dude i respect you guys so much , not even a car guy but im turning into one because of this channel , i can just imagine the effort going into making new videos everyday on a schedule as a team and its so dope. keep it up

  • @jessicabamber8732
    @jessicabamber8732 3 роки тому +46

    “ You deserve a car that starts every time.” 🤣 Yes, yes I do!

  • @knduong
    @knduong 4 роки тому +340

    "RELIABILITY, which as i get older does legitimately make me become more excited."
    This is true.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 4 роки тому

      @@TheTazzietiger well it is a entry level car... so it want i used for weekday drive...

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 4 роки тому

      campkira ?

  • @commietearsdrinker
    @commietearsdrinker 4 роки тому +708

    Ah, yes.
    The Toyubarion GT86BRZFRS.

  • @NiSSaNAC08
    @NiSSaNAC08 3 роки тому +42

    "Just be really good" Probably the best explanation for this car lol. Nothing spectacular, it's just really good.

  • @coleboychuck500
    @coleboychuck500 2 роки тому +2

    3:35 I drive a red 2009 RAV4 and seeing one get airborne was beautiful

  • @CUSTARDP00DLETK
    @CUSTARDP00DLETK 4 роки тому +143

    1970s-80s= Oil crisis
    Early 2000's= The SUV crisis.

    • @AaronShenghao
      @AaronShenghao 4 роки тому +22

      Late 2010's = The cross over crisis

    • @herejust4cars723
      @herejust4cars723 4 роки тому +4

      If automakers don't start selling affordable FR coupes again i'm gonna shoot myself in the head.

    • @seviche100
      @seviche100 4 роки тому +1

      @@herejust4cars723 DO IT

    • @joshuaw_270
      @joshuaw_270 4 роки тому

      CUSTARDP00DLETK 2020: no cars anywhere crisis

    • @i6oub-49
      @i6oub-49 4 роки тому

      Early 2020’s = Corona Crisis

  • @TerryByrne
    @TerryByrne 4 роки тому +618

    "No, the Other guy..." "Bart ?" I still miss Bart...

  • @spawsgoober
    @spawsgoober 2 роки тому +16

    the early 2000s concept cars are so funny to me, I love how they make them so extremely futuristic

  • @konos-p8842
    @konos-p8842 2 роки тому +7

    I literally sold my Evo X GSR because after I drove my dad's 2013 FRS and felt more connected to a car that was so much easier to operate and drive, that I had to get in line for the new GR86 even if I have to wait months to get it.

  • @saulespino2510
    @saulespino2510 4 роки тому +212

    I have a BRZ and if it wasn’t for a brother of mine that already had bought an FRS, I wouldn’t of bought one. He told me that I won’t regret getting one and he was right! Best handling car I have ever owned.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 4 роки тому +2

      yeah same.. 86 had different setting up which alot said.. it just reverse front to back...it just good car for city drive and small cornering..

    • @derekwilliams6267
      @derekwilliams6267 4 роки тому +4

      One word. Miata

    • @lecoureurdesbois86
      @lecoureurdesbois86 4 роки тому +9

      @@derekwilliams6267 They're good too, but not everyone wants a soft top like that

    • @sirdavidr6064
      @sirdavidr6064 4 роки тому

      Very easy to make a car handle good without power

    • @bbkangs
      @bbkangs 4 роки тому

      I almost bought one but opted for a 2 door Mini Cooper S. If they do actually put a turbo in the next model, I’ll definitely get an 86

  • @mashiroinoue
    @mashiroinoue 4 роки тому +174

    Just paint the brake calipers red for +5 hrsprs each.

    • @Xehanortlw
      @Xehanortlw 4 роки тому +4

      Dont forget about the decals

    • @ronly_driver
      @ronly_driver Рік тому

      TRD Wheel Center Caps +3.5 HrsPrs Per

  • @paulnwabiankea4193
    @paulnwabiankea4193 3 роки тому +4

    I absolutely love watching Up to Speed. I literally start my day at work with a video💖💖

  • @Inanabananana
    @Inanabananana 4 роки тому +24

    “Toyobaru” 😂😂😂 I wasn’t ready for that 😂

  • @MurphLAZ3R
    @MurphLAZ3R 4 роки тому +266

    I've had my 2015 FR-S for 3 and a half years now, and it is easily the best car I've ever owned (mind you, I've only owned three cars).
    Balanced handling, responsive suspension, rock-solid reliability, and a surprising level of practicality make it almost the perfect fun daily driver. If you need one car that can take you to work at 8 AM and drift through a parking lot at 10 PM at an affordable price, I can't recommend the 86 twins highly enough.

    • @drphil4209
      @drphil4209 4 роки тому +25

      They hate us cuz they ain't us bro

    • @danielleduc5278
      @danielleduc5278 4 роки тому +1

      Agreed! I love mine! Haters can suck it!

    • @Jesusprayerwarriorbw
      @Jesusprayerwarriorbw 4 роки тому +1

      I love em, just needs a STI version tho.

    • @flipslips2192
      @flipslips2192 4 роки тому +4

      Love my BRZ

    • @drphil4209
      @drphil4209 4 роки тому +7

      @@Jesusprayerwarriorbw c'mon man . Aftermarket is unlimited. 🙄

  • @rick-hj3jg
    @rick-hj3jg 4 роки тому +502

    James: “Does making a car faster make it better?”
    Me: Well yes , but no...

    • @hakimchong9146
      @hakimchong9146 4 роки тому +1

      Ricardo Debrito ua-cam.com/video/JYLxG1Y7Mqo/v-deo.html

    • @campkira
      @campkira 4 роки тому +1

      well yeah sport car... we don't drift that often so why would we own a slow car... i used it for weekday drive...

    • @Poth94
      @Poth94 4 роки тому +1

      Um duh? Of course it does

    • @rick-hj3jg
      @rick-hj3jg 4 роки тому

      Thanks for all the likes lol

    • @chrisrice6449
      @chrisrice6449 4 роки тому

      tell that to mimi coopers they hit what 90 at most and can beat a ton of cars

  • @teejyy
    @teejyy 4 місяці тому +2

    I bought my 86 and a couple of years through ownership, I turbo'd the car. Small turbo (basically the same as the WRX now), but my god, it makes the car SOOO much better. No more annoying torque dip, nicer power out of corners, its just *MUAHH*. It's a shame they never brought the car out with a factory turbo, even as a separate model.

    • @aud3n_35
      @aud3n_35 Місяць тому +1

      what turbo did you put on it?

  • @MiloWildfire
    @MiloWildfire 4 роки тому +954

    Toyota when creating Scion: Hello fellow kids

    • @wardog211
      @wardog211 4 роки тому +37

      Георгій Колпак we know just what will relate to the youths of today. A car in the shape of a box

    • @MiloWildfire
      @MiloWildfire 4 роки тому +2

      @@wardog211 yes

    • @jpcrafton69
      @jpcrafton69 4 роки тому +9

      At the age of 33, I bought a TC. Nice little car. Not powerful, and only front-wheel-drive, but still a lot of fun. Did it appeal to kids? Not from what I could see. I expect I was the target audience.

    • @Milnoc
      @Milnoc 3 роки тому +7

      @@jpcrafton69 I'm 54. I test drove a 2016 Scion tC a few weeks ago while shopping around for a "plague" car that I could drive around just for fun while remaining socially distant from others.
      It felt like the rentals I would drive to work sites, a feeling I DON'T want to experience in my own car!
      I bought a 2015 Fiat 500 Abarth instead.

    • @mohawk5010
      @mohawk5010 3 роки тому +2

      Perfect. I remember hearing about the sales numbers from the first-gen Scions. Low price, high efficiency, good quality=LOTS OF OLD PEOPLE BOUGHT THEM. 😂 Remember old folks are on fixed incomes, can’t afford expensive cars, are sensible and wise and know where the tontine gold is buried and most of all, love Scions.

  • @ivanbima5877
    @ivanbima5877 4 роки тому +321

    James : It's was called FT-HS
    Me : FT-HS?
    *Thinking*
    Me : F*cking Toyota Hybrid Sportscar?

    • @small_SHOT
      @small_SHOT 3 роки тому

      ok

    • @confusepanda3718
      @confusepanda3718 3 роки тому +1

      XD NOICE!!!

    • @OFChuck
      @OFChuck 3 роки тому +3

      "RELIABILITY, which as i get older does legitimately make me become more excited."
      This is true.

  • @gir489returns2
    @gir489returns2 3 місяці тому +2

    That really does sum up the 86. It's not fast, its times are garbage, it's not even the slickest car in the lot. But when you get in it and drive, you'll love it, I swear. I've driven so many sports cars I can't even remember owning some of them without the pictures I have. But I swear, the 86 is my favorite out of all of them.

  • @sampannashrestha4893
    @sampannashrestha4893 4 роки тому +8

    I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE AT 11:00, YOU JUST PUSHED IN THE DAYS OF THE SHOWS :D
    PRETTY SMOOTH!!

  • @magnumlore8821
    @magnumlore8821 4 роки тому +103

    "Today we're going to go up to speed with The 86"
    NO POWER BABY! 💀

  • @jovaneldramiro4052
    @jovaneldramiro4052 4 роки тому +231

    "just a little bit more power would be nice"
    Toyota : *adds 1 horsepower to the new 86
    James: Am I a joke to you

    • @iamwritingrightnow8217
      @iamwritingrightnow8217 4 роки тому +16

      Jovaneld Ramiro Toyota: What? I did what you wanted

    • @naphi6769
      @naphi6769 3 роки тому +8

      Just realized there are actually a lot of bald guys on cars and coffee meet-ups

  • @link20115
    @link20115 2 роки тому +2

    This video pretty much made me buy my 86, and I love it.

  • @XxMrWink3rxX
    @XxMrWink3rxX 4 роки тому +3

    That intro blackboard is why we love this channel so much

  • @alchx1813
    @alchx1813 4 роки тому +198

    As soon as he said ‘does’ I immediately thought “DOES MORE EXPENSIVE EQUAL MORE BETTER?”

  • @judahweesner2651
    @judahweesner2651 4 роки тому +55

    I'm actually really glad the 86 is being made. I always wish Japanese cars were still made like they were in the 90's but the it 86 is basically a modern day Silvia

    • @donjuan964
      @donjuan964 4 роки тому +3

      wafflez_ could not agree anymore

  • @kshitijsinha2029
    @kshitijsinha2029 3 роки тому +65

    Just waiting for Mazda to produce a new rotary, and let the fun begin!

    • @WakanaGojoAE86
      @WakanaGojoAE86 3 роки тому +1

      What would be the name Rx-7 or Rx-9?

    • @jaredchampagne2752
      @jaredchampagne2752 3 роки тому +9

      They never will, the rotary design is just not a good design from an engineering standpoint and can never be made as reliable as a piston engine.

    • @tinekese5025
      @tinekese5025 3 роки тому

      @@jaredchampagne2752 no i think it could be reliable, its just that the piston engine had a lot more time to improve. If we spent the same amount of money and time in to developing a rotary it would probably be just as good as a piston engine

    • @chasespeer251
      @chasespeer251 3 роки тому

      @@jaredchampagne2752 "Rotaries bad hahahaha", no really your argument is pretty antiquated and irrelevant

    • @RDKelly12
      @RDKelly12 3 роки тому +1

      Mazda still has ongoing rotary projects 👀
      There's also a guy in the uk with something called SPARCS for next gen rotaries

  • @jonboy533
    @jonboy533 4 роки тому +2

    4:02 Life advice hitting hard right now. Thank you James I needed that

  • @DirtandoilUTAH
    @DirtandoilUTAH 4 роки тому +240

    JAMES! When are y’all going to do an Up to Speed on John Deere?!

    • @LarryMarston
      @LarryMarston 4 роки тому +14

      Who cares? We need an up to speed on Cat!

    • @ultraguy8771
      @ultraguy8771 4 роки тому +7

      Up to speed on MAN.

    • @aadonisk
      @aadonisk 4 роки тому +2

      Pena Fitisemanu I'm born in the city with John Deeres largest factory, and we have a JD muesuem

    • @JulianVR4
      @JulianVR4 4 роки тому +1

      probably when they start making road vehicles?

    • @LunringNassar
      @LunringNassar 4 роки тому +1

      no

  • @luckharey8315
    @luckharey8315 4 роки тому +17

    I saved up since I was 5 years old to get my dream car when I was old enough...a camaro. 1,000s of chores, tutoring, teaching, and 2 summer jobs later I finally got my license and spent my life savings on..... a used FR-S instead. It’s been almost 6 years now and I can say it was the best decision I’ve ever made. Roadtrips from one ocean to the other. Hopefully I can pass it on to kids of my own one day!

  • @jareesecarter2093
    @jareesecarter2093 4 роки тому +2

    You guys give the best car reviews 💯

  • @MarioCashy
    @MarioCashy 3 роки тому +2

    No matter how many cars come out my love for the Toyota Trueno D AE 86 WILL NEVER FADE

  • @alejandrovega8370
    @alejandrovega8370 4 роки тому +54

    I’ve had my ‘16 FRS for four years and it still makes me giggle every time I go up a mountain road. It really is a lot of fun

    • @moldyrefrigerator
      @moldyrefrigerator 4 роки тому +4

      Alejandro Vega I’ve had my twin for 5 years, fully paid off and I don’t think I’ll ever get rid of it. I daily a G37 coupe now, but my BRZ will probably always stick around.

    • @JS-hw8ve
      @JS-hw8ve 4 роки тому

      Serious question: How are they on mountain roads? Asking because I live in the mountains, and sometimes passing uphill is a must, but not every car can do it fast and reliably. Nothing worse than trying to get by a logging truck or tanker when you run out of "umph" and have to get back behind it or hope to hell nothing is coming from over the other side.

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 4 роки тому +5

      J S you passing on double yellow?

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 4 роки тому +2

      @@JS-hw8ve they get out of their own way, just don't shy away from 7000+ rpm shift points.
      My experience is only Adirondack interstate elevations, though.

    • @burakoshimazaki
      @burakoshimazaki 4 роки тому +6

      @@JS-hw8ve Designed here in Japan where we have 75% terrain is mountainous. That should be a good clue ;)

  • @abingeorge9228
    @abingeorge9228 4 роки тому +184

    Hands down THE best car I have ever driven in my life!
    And I've driven cars way more powerful than this...but power doesn't actually matter...fun is what matters

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 4 роки тому +9

      Preach

    • @jpcrafton69
      @jpcrafton69 4 роки тому +33

      Every car has its own purpose. Every performance car has its own approach to "fun". A sports car relies on handling, feel, balance, tossability, and a direct connection to the road. The S2000 had that. The Elise had that. The first two generations of the Miata had that. The Toyobaru triplets had that.
      For me, any approach to "fun" has value. Hell, I even enjoyed tossing around my first new car, an obscenely simple '92 Nissan Sentra E, with its 13" wheels, manual everything, and power nothing. It was FUN. If I'm to drive a muscle car or pony car, I want tire-melting burnouts, loud growling engine notes, and room for some friends. If I'm to drive a Grand Tourer, I want legs for days, power to spare, and room for some overnight bags and some golf clubs. If I'm to drive a supercar, I want to be looked at and I want to scare myself with more power and sharper turning than I could ever handle.
      If, however, I want a car that feels like every ride on the playground, at any speeds, then I'll drive a sports car. The BRZ/FRS/86 is one of those cars, and it's a great one at that.

    • @Tenaciousdomi
      @Tenaciousdomi 3 роки тому +3

      Preach it brother

    • @pasmoi4233
      @pasmoi4233 3 роки тому +2

      indeed: time on tracks, winning race, and efficient driving is totally boring and absolutely no fun.
      Sadly, race/sport cars are evaluated on this shit.
      Like driving a train is boring, even if an empty TGV can easily go at more than 500 km/h. (more than 310 mph).
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_speed_record
      TGV 4402 (operation v150) reaching 574.8 km/h (357 mph)

    • @markus6366
      @markus6366 3 роки тому

      @@jpcrafton69 Amen.

  • @elcocoreyes
    @elcocoreyes 2 роки тому +4

    I had a 2017 Toyota 86. IT IS FUN TO DRIVE!!!! suspension is well balanced and it can drift!!

  • @Afganha
    @Afganha 3 роки тому +3

    Just bought my own GT86, will pick it up next week. "Very excite!" Thanks for the video

    • @aris9392
      @aris9392 3 роки тому +1

      I bought a frs a couple days ago and loving it since

    • @Afganha
      @Afganha 3 роки тому

      I fuxking love this car...!

    • @aris9392
      @aris9392 3 роки тому

      @@Afganha ikr amazing

  • @Caymand29
    @Caymand29 4 роки тому +65

    if is see mo powa baby imma be happy af
    edit: bruh it happened in the first minute

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 4 роки тому +51

    Its odd that a comparative small coup, the Mazda MX-5, could go generations with very nominal changes in power and still be loved, while the 86 receives criticism for it.

    • @Heimdal001
      @Heimdal001 4 роки тому +7

      Many people say the Miata is a hairdresser's car, while many other people say "Miata Is Always The Answer." It gets it's share of criticism, but it's old enough that the consistency in it's design philosophy is part of the love, and the bulk of the power-critics have probably gone on to looking at different cars instead.
      Meanwhile, the GT86 is much newer, and the big boys behind the engine (Subaru) love juggling turbos so much that everyone is wondering how one hasn't accidentally fallen into the BRZ yet.
      I would love mine to have a turbo, but the car is already such a nice drive that it'd sort of be a waste.

    • @kage7785
      @kage7785 4 роки тому +4

      Case of bias before trying. I would gather 95% of those who hammer on the car have never actually driven one at all or for its intended purpose. Meanwhile in the twisty b-roads I can guarantee every owner is grinning ear to ear. Haters gonna hate.

    • @alex-vu3gv
      @alex-vu3gv 4 роки тому +2

      because its heavy

    • @GTRWelsh
      @GTRWelsh 4 роки тому +1

      @@alex-vu3gv It's not heavy, compared to most cars out today at all.

    • @alex-vu3gv
      @alex-vu3gv 4 роки тому +1

      Chris Jones it is compared to a Miata

  • @newchangeunlisted_viewer5594
    @newchangeunlisted_viewer5594 4 роки тому

    I've been waiting for this video for so long!!

  • @andrewgove2235
    @andrewgove2235 4 роки тому

    Just bought a 2017 Toyota 86 860 special edition and I absolutely love this car. The handling is amazing and the alcanterra interior is so clean

  • @Ogknav
    @Ogknav 4 роки тому +95

    16:37
    Translation: It would make the car worth more than you can afford.

    • @drtm1718
      @drtm1718 4 роки тому +10

      "More than you can afford, pal: Toyobaru. 🤨"

    • @digitalkoh
      @digitalkoh 4 роки тому

      Insurance would be a killer

    • @mrkazman
      @mrkazman 4 роки тому +3

      Also, that sick red Ferrari powered 86 they show around 16:37 got binned into the wall in that video shoot. Maybe not from the balance, but still ironic enough for me!

  • @klvyn.
    @klvyn. 4 роки тому +320

    Im gonna be honest with you guys
    We miss Bart and Science Garage

    • @lordflufffluff
      @lordflufffluff 4 роки тому +16

      I liked him. He's the only donut presenter my family is okay with. His show is educational and weird.

    • @iaintdonknow
      @iaintdonknow 4 роки тому +12

      @@lordflufffluff Your family is ok with? What is happening there?

    • @blueswamp3778
      @blueswamp3778 4 роки тому

      What ever even happened to Bart

    • @OlliTho91
      @OlliTho91 4 роки тому

      No we don't 🤷‍♂️

    • @nathand.2670
      @nathand.2670 4 роки тому +14

      Science Garage > Money Pit imo

  • @zombiedearth
    @zombiedearth 9 місяців тому +4

    Update to this video: the GR86 does not get a turbo. But its still freakin sweet 💯 imagine going in the past to tell people this and that the Corolla does get a turbo and one less cylinder on an AWD platform lol

  • @GoodOlPastaCake
    @GoodOlPastaCake Рік тому +3

    Honestly, I’m thankful it doesn’t have a turbo. Naturally aspirated engines just feel so much nicer to drive. I don’t know how to explain it, but some people will get it

  • @CheemengFyne
    @CheemengFyne 4 роки тому +111

    I own this car, knows its history and I’m still watching this. No clue why? Donut 🍩 media just make great content lol 🔥

    • @itsfqndave
      @itsfqndave 4 роки тому +6

      Cool story bro. Add more dragons next time.
      #themoreyouknow

    • @LunarStrike
      @LunarStrike 4 роки тому +7

      I want this car so bad this is my dream car

    • @CheemengFyne
      @CheemengFyne 4 роки тому +1

      Lunar Strike, you will get it 🔥 be patient. It took me 1 year 1/2. And I’m only 18.

    • @lucsmith3953
      @lucsmith3953 4 роки тому

      I don’t know if I should get a 86 or a g35

    • @surreal6670
      @surreal6670 4 роки тому +1

      @@lucsmith3953 driven hard the g35 will feel heavy, and go through tires, brakes and fuel much faster than an 86.
      Also it will struggle much quicker with engine overheating.
      It all depends on what kind of driving you like.
      If it helps: when you don't see the issue with putting 19 inch wheels on an 86, then the g35 is the right choice.

  • @nungal573
    @nungal573 4 роки тому +60

    Me seeing the thumbnail: that’s half 86 half Ferrari

    • @blubase06
      @blubase06 4 роки тому +5

      Known as the 4586

  • @adhilmehmud8171
    @adhilmehmud8171 3 роки тому +2

    i just saw one of these on the streets today and had to come back to this video.

  • @wazeemkhan4906
    @wazeemkhan4906 3 роки тому +1

    I have a 10 series Scion FR-S and yeah it definitely needs more power but it’s so much fun to drive. It makes getting from A to B that much more enjoyable!

  • @tad3rr
    @tad3rr 4 роки тому +74

    I just saw that the note James is chasing in the intro says “from dad”

  • @relaxsenpai2428
    @relaxsenpai2428 4 роки тому +187

    Just like Bunta Fujiwara said “The 86 trains the driver”

    • @lordflufffluff
      @lordflufffluff 4 роки тому +8

      I also like initial D.

    • @Overland_RC
      @Overland_RC 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah, but he's talking about the _real_ 86

    • @joaquinvillasenor4818
      @joaquinvillasenor4818 4 роки тому +2

      That was said by Tsuchiya Keiichi too. I think Shigeno just quoted him.

    • @lordflufffluff
      @lordflufffluff 4 роки тому +5

      @@joaquinvillasenor4818
      I feel like the drift King was just drives the 86 because he loves the car. Cars don't have to be amazing for you to love them, you just have to bond with them. I feel like they could have as easily liked the Miata or s2000.
      This is purely speculation on my part.

    • @thrashefe3523
      @thrashefe3523 4 роки тому +1

      In Soviet Russia GT86 drives you so no problem

  • @car_edits1174
    @car_edits1174 2 роки тому +6

    Me watching this in 2022 and still no turbo

  • @DeShaunBoyd11
    @DeShaunBoyd11 Рік тому +6

    They did not add that turbo…

  • @jerryvelasco1474
    @jerryvelasco1474 4 роки тому +61

    Could of used a little more "Initial D" references.

  • @averagecarguy420
    @averagecarguy420 4 роки тому +98

    “Say hi to Tupac for me” lmao

  • @noegarcia7491
    @noegarcia7491 3 роки тому

    Hi Donut, just wanted to say I love that you exist. Thanks.

  • @edwardspaccarelli5944
    @edwardspaccarelli5944 3 роки тому

    James, really enjoy your videos, very entertaining and informative. Yarrrrr

  • @spooky6oo
    @spooky6oo 4 роки тому +126

    Toyota: The car responds to good driving skills.
    That’s like when Bunta Fujiwara said “That car trains it’s driver”

  • @bilalkanso5510
    @bilalkanso5510 4 роки тому +117

    Everyone:make weight reduction on their cars to make them lighter
    James:*makes weight reduction on himself*

    • @MotorTorq_ZA
      @MotorTorq_ZA 4 роки тому

      Ohh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ROASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @diegouy8482
      @diegouy8482 4 роки тому +7

      @@MotorTorq_ZA its more of a compliment.

    • @davidsdoodles5089
      @davidsdoodles5089 4 роки тому +5

      Technically if you are less weight so is the car

    • @MotorTorq_ZA
      @MotorTorq_ZA 4 роки тому

      Oh 😐

    • @MotorTorq_ZA
      @MotorTorq_ZA 4 роки тому

      Nice UA-cam name

  • @leoaa777
    @leoaa777 3 роки тому +62

    I came in waiting for an Initial D reference. I’m sad now.

    • @sooryan_1018
      @sooryan_1018 3 роки тому +12

      Me too, the Final stage reference (86-239)
      Or atleast an MF Ghost reference

    • @macnchillidogs1601
      @macnchillidogs1601 3 роки тому +5

      @@sooryan_1018 hachi roku ni San kyu( i agree i kinda wanted a reference to the end of initial d)

  • @karzak96
    @karzak96 4 роки тому +1

    Love this episode!!

  • @ilikemusic2773
    @ilikemusic2773 4 роки тому +284

    "Nothing going on in the mid two thousands."
    *sad Toyota Celica VVTL-I noises*

    • @rustedratchetgarage6788
      @rustedratchetgarage6788 4 роки тому +3

      Oh you must need lift bolts if those noises are sad to you

    • @redcar9949
      @redcar9949 4 роки тому +22

      The last generation celica was 👎

    • @stefan_4508
      @stefan_4508 4 роки тому +31

      Rwd gt86 > fwd celica

    • @dr.lyleevans6915
      @dr.lyleevans6915 4 роки тому +4

      I had a 2000 Celica GT-S and the valve program wouldn’t kick in. Spent nearly $1000 at the Toyota dealership to no avail. Turns out it was a simple fix, but this wasn’t known at the time (internet forums were in their infancy)

    • @Leprechaun_of_Maryland
      @Leprechaun_of_Maryland 4 роки тому +2

      Also sad Corolla XRS 2005-2006 VVTL-I noises

  • @youngexotics2155
    @youngexotics2155 4 роки тому +67

    2:41 Chapter 1
    7:54 Chapter 2
    14:14 Chapter 3
    17:38 Chapter 4

  • @jonnijames
    @jonnijames 2 роки тому

    Wow this was one of the best youtube videos i have ever watched, you`re pure genius, love you too

  • @thehalodoctrine1392
    @thehalodoctrine1392 4 роки тому +5

    I REALLY liked my 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT. The biggest problem I had with it was that it was FWD (and heavy, but ignore that).
    The 86 really seems like the best version of my old Eclipse that I can imagine. Now that I'm no longer a young naive budget "sports car" owner with shallow pockets I REALLY want to become a slightly older budget "sports car" owner with much deeper pockets. Kudos Toyota, you're still killing it!
    Also, "Hearse Purrs!" lol

  • @dickmantsarnaev8624
    @dickmantsarnaev8624 4 роки тому +212

    James: there was really nothing fun going on in the 2000's
    altezza, aristo: am i a joke to you?

    • @tobiasdierks
      @tobiasdierks 4 роки тому +1

      The Celica was also produced until 2005

    • @adil3148
      @adil3148 4 роки тому +32

      We need a up to speed on the Altezza

    • @ThatOTAKU
      @ThatOTAKU 4 роки тому +4

      Also considering the Project engineer of the AE86 made the Altezza/IS300 SXE10/JCE10.

    • @OrionMcFozzle
      @OrionMcFozzle 4 роки тому +3

      they're kinda... fat, at least the lexus versions
      wish we got a toyota badged RS200

    • @notasian7620
      @notasian7620 4 роки тому +2

      Cringe bro

  • @DjDizzy216
    @DjDizzy216 4 роки тому +17

    Finally! Thank you for doing this video! I’ve had a turbo in my BRZ for 5 years now, putting out 275whp, I couldn’t ever go back to NA. It should’ve come with FI from the factory, it didn’t upset weight distribution at all.

    • @tehgusbus2716
      @tehgusbus2716 4 роки тому

      Have you had any issues? What brand did you get

    • @DjDizzy216
      @DjDizzy216 4 роки тому +2

      Gustavo Salgado It’s a SBD kit (the Greddy knock-off). Winter mix fuel causes an O2 sensor warning every winter but the actual sensor is fine. I always run 93 octane, E85 stations are hard to find in my city. I think the winter O2 sensor issue is probably an OFT problem, I should’ve gotten EcuTek. So I reset the ECU once a month in winter. No issues aside from that annoyance. IMO getting it tuned by a great pro-tuner is the biggest factor in reliability. I’m going to have him retune it using EcuTek and see if the winter O2 sensor problem goes away.

    • @travisstrange4680
      @travisstrange4680 4 роки тому +1

      I just turbo’ed my BRZ about a month or so ago. Full Blown Motorsports Stage 2 kit, definitely made a huge difference! lol currently pushing way too much boost at 14 PSI, gonna drop it down to 10 PSI soon 😌

  • @jesse584
    @jesse584 2 роки тому +5

    The 86 doesn't need a turbo ...
    Its a blast the way it is. ☺️

  • @randomfrog6376
    @randomfrog6376 4 роки тому +1

    I remember when it came out and I always saw it at the end of the dealers driveway and It was sooo cool!

  • @insertusernamehere313
    @insertusernamehere313 4 роки тому +14

    The 86 is dope especially when you guys do a video on it.

  • @kanchingyg
    @kanchingyg 4 роки тому +2

    1:15 now thats a man of culture

  • @noodkhannavin
    @noodkhannavin 3 роки тому +1

    6 years of considering for my first car now i c my future 🔥 Thanks mann

  • @polar1474
    @polar1474 4 роки тому +210

    "slow cars handle good" - MCM

    • @chrisrice6449
      @chrisrice6449 4 роки тому +4

      Mini cooperd

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 3 роки тому +1

      Miata’d

    • @moisesezequielgutierrez
      @moisesezequielgutierrez 3 роки тому +4

      _"More Horsepower makes you faster in straights. Lightness makes you faster everywhere."_
      *-Lotus probably? I don't know who really said it tbh. I just heard it*

    • @archfxt3619
      @archfxt3619 3 роки тому

      @@moisesezequielgutierrez yeah its lotus

  • @stephenmusic69420
    @stephenmusic69420 4 роки тому +35

    10:46 I thought they were gonna talk about science garage with Bart... 😔

  • @tonygil144
    @tonygil144 3 роки тому +45

    The 86 doesn't need more power, I have a FR-S and I can redline with no problem. You never redline with a v6, v8, i6, or i8 cuz you will lose control. The 86 uses the whole engine efficiently, there is no way tou can do that with a faster car unless you are on the track.

    • @mojojoji5493
      @mojojoji5493 3 роки тому +11

      True no ones doing a 5 second 0-60 every stop light xD

    • @rob_over_9000
      @rob_over_9000 2 роки тому +8

      That's just not true... you've probably just not owned a faster car lol

    • @kl0wnkiller912
      @kl0wnkiller912 2 роки тому +1

      I have a CTS-V and I can say you obviously have never owned a well-made V-8 car.

    • @Bussdownbandit
      @Bussdownbandit 2 роки тому

      Once u get into the 500 club that opinion u made is true but the frs should of been faster

    • @RByrne
      @RByrne 2 роки тому

      Yeah, thats definitely not true. I have an S4(supercharged V6, 6spd manual) and i often redline it without losing control. Power isnt just about racing either. It affects driveability in everyday situations. When you have to redline the motor to pass someone on a freeway or going up a hill, that car is underpowered.

  • @thereluctanthipster9714
    @thereluctanthipster9714 4 роки тому +25

    Really surprised there hasn’t been an “Up To Speed” for the Triumph cars...

  • @andrewwitak512
    @andrewwitak512 4 роки тому +37

    I love every single video that Donut puts out, y’all need to be wayyyy more famous than you are now. #502

  • @CorockDragneel
    @CorockDragneel 4 роки тому +10

    The Scion FRS/86 is my favorite type of car, I've been waiting for this day

  • @bethberlinger5069
    @bethberlinger5069 3 роки тому

    I just got a 2020 toyota 86. It is my first sports car ever and I love her

  • @abood0709
    @abood0709 4 роки тому +6

    james is an epic blend of a hilly billy, hip hop and craziness

  • @seanbrady400
    @seanbrady400 4 роки тому +57

    Immagine subaru helped you with a group project at school
    Me i wish 😂

    • @neovenom9833
      @neovenom9833 4 роки тому +1

      Imagine having a group for your project at school... wow I just went deep.😐