I wish we could have a long video about Physical Therapist and teach what is the best chair, keyboard and desk arrangement for specific person with height and size.
Want want want! It wasn't until my 30s that my back started to have feeling (as in, I know it's there and it let's me know it's there.) When I was younger, I never once thought about my back, because it never gave me any bad feelings. 😆
Watching this i kept thinking this looked just like my secret lab chair and as the video kept going on i kept looking back and forth at my chair and the razer in the video. They’re essentially the same chair.
They r all the same chair, nexus did a video on going and fake placing an order to get one made and its the same few companies in china making them, cost em $65 to make it
I have the secret lab and I recently tried the Razer and the Razer is more comfortable since it does not "hug" you as much like a racing seat. That being said, they are both probably made in the same factory for a fraction of what they charge.
@@Jzwiz That's not really true. GN looked at the cheaper ones, they didn't have a single higher end 'gaming chair' there. (E.g. SecretLab, Razer.) I think everyone should just buy steelcase, but that video was not unbiased. It very heavily went on the 'cheap gaming chair' end of the spectrum. The more expensive ones are objectively far better. But you should still buy an office chair. The one GN got made was complete garbage. SecretLabs are alright.
Cool to have an actual PT doctor talk about seating posture briefly. I always have to remove the armrests from office chairs because they never go low enough (short torso + long arms). I should also get adjustable height desks.
Crazy, theres a few brands out there that look like they get their main parts like the tilt mechanism and all that come from the same factory, with their own backrest and features. I suppose they probably do come from the same place essentially.....
Yeah, like my CAD$900 Secret Labs chair that I regret buying. A huuuuge waste of money when I could have gotten a cheaper chair with all the same features for like $150, or $50 used. Bleh. Gunna try and make this Secret Labs chair last the rest of my entire life just to make it worth it. 😆
@@StardustLegacyFighter That's not really true. GN looked at the cheaper ones, they didn't have a single higher end 'gaming chair' there. (E.g. SecretLab, Razer.) I think everyone should just buy steelcase, but that video was not unbiased. It very heavily went on the 'cheap gaming chair' end of the spectrum. The more expensive ones are objectively far better. But you should still buy an office chair. The one GN got made for them was complete garbage. SecretLabs are alright.
@@PhatOofYeah, they did have a look at cheap gaming chairs, instead of only focusing on high end ones, but I think that's because the vast majority of ppl do buy cheap gaming chairs. However, that doesn't mean Razer and Secretlab don't use the same OEMs to source parts for their chairs, especially since both have factories in China. The quality of the parts are decent, but it's a moot point, because we know that they don't hold up as well when compared to most mid tier to high end office chairs.
Watching this makes me happy I bought a Steelcase and not a gaming chair. The quality is night and day difference. Plus a 7 year warranty shows they actually trust their quality.
@MrDobiedoobie No need to worry, as their warranty service is regarded as the best in the business. I'm pretty sure both Steelcase and Herman Miller have a 12 years warranty with 24/7 usage. Just make sure you have the warranty information handy, in case you ever need it.
Most people dont know to lift with the knees not the spine :( If you're reading this and don't know what it means - get as close to the object as possible, shift your feet shoulder length apart and squat to lift, keeping your back straight and not arched. If something is so heavy you have to arch your back to move it, consider a different approach. Back injuries are no joke!
I have a lot of pain issues from an autoimmune disease and fwiw the Iskur v1 has been fantastic and held up very well since I bought it several years ago. My ergonomic issues are related to my desk height more than the chair at this point. Exactly the problem Colton has actually
I just bought a Herman miller x Logitech Embody on FB marketplace for $600. Destroys any of these “gamer” chairs and built like an absolute tank. I’d recommend that over these gamer chairs.
That's a pretty good deal but this chair actually has more adjustability than the embody. Every chair has different benefits and matches to a specific distribution of body types. The chair is only one part of the picture though as I mentioned :)
@@1HPyou’re correct about the adjustability. If that’s what you value then I can see why this would be appealing; but why not go for an established brand with lots of adjustability such as the Steelcase Leap v2/Gesture or something similar? I just have a bad impression about any major gamer brand when they make chairs. These type of racer type of seats were designed to be in sports cars to hold you in place when taking the corner at high speeds (hence the bolstering) so I’m not sure how this translates into a desk chair. I can see that you specialize in ergonomics so I won’t try to debate you. I am a plastic surgery resident so I somewhat know about posture and such but mainly deal with soft tissues; just my two cents :)
You failed to mention the most important difference to the Iskur v1 as far as I can see, and the reason I went for the Enki instead of the original Iskur. From this video, it looks like there are no more "wings" on the seat, you know, those wings on the side of the seat with metal bars on them that push your thighs towards the inside. From the video it looks like they are now soft, same as the Enki, which is a big improvement, and honestly the biggest improvement from v1. Weird you never mentioned it, it was the single deciding factor for me not buying the original.
Simple and effective tips from the doc, thanks for bringin him in and that "your best posture is your next posture" advice is great. I found the same tip a few years ago when looking for a new chair that are designed with that in mind. They are not usually the most comfortable but offer many posture options and encourage you to be active. Those kind of chairs will be my choice whenever possible from now on.
I have a V1 Iskur and the lumbar support changed my life...working 9+ hours a day in a sitting position, I started having lower backache and my feet were numb prior to this chair, so yeah, it's a good buy, although it's quite pricy at retail ( I got mine on BF sale for roughly €250)
To defend the doctor here. He told him to lower his chair so he can give an example of how the angles of the legs are supposed to be and feet fully planted on the ground. When he tells him to raise the chair back up. He's giving him use cases of why foot rests are important in the event desks are too high compared to the user. You can see the foot rest soon after he says this to make up for the lack of height. He's still sitting in the ideal position this way even after raising the height to match the desk.
Because the standard desk height is too goddamn high and I don't understand why. From looking at various desks I noticed most of them are around 74 cm tall, but this is too high. At that height, you have to lift up your chair to the max, which in most cases means you're barely touching the ground with your feet so you also need a footrest. I'm 1.85m tall, so not short by any means.
@@GDRobbye wow, just checked how low my $300 "SHW Adjustable Desk" lowers, and it hits 70.5cm, which seems low enough for a child! I'm 6 foot tall, and my preferred desk height is 75cm. I definitely agree with you that 74cms should not be the absolute minimum for one of these desk; way too high.
And Secret Labs' arm rests are actually horrendous; especially for a CAD$900 freakin' chair! >_< I bought one and regret it... The arm rests feel like they're from a $25 chair. They're not even solid; they wiggle every single way and it was this way right out of the box. These things aren't built well at all. Companies are just jumping on the band wagon of creating "premium" products for gamers, but aren't actually creating "premium" products. Just their price tags are premium. Never again with a Secret Labs chair. Such garbage. Worth like $250 max! Not the $900 I spent.
@@imjody that's cap as hell. I got an XL 2024 model and it's easily the sturdiest chair I ever had. I'm 6'6" and like 280 pounds normal ass chairs start squeaking within a month of owning them. I've bought many $300-500 chair and the secret lab one I have now is by far the best. I will agree the normal arm rests aren't super plush but I got the memory foam up graded ones and they are a dream. My arm rests also wiggle the least out of any chair I've owned with moveable arm rests. You must have gotten a dud or somethin.
What?! I came for a chair review and also got a few pointers on proper chair height. Turns out I had been setting my old Iskur chair at the wrong height for the last two years. I want those two years of my life back. Not your fault, though. Thanks for bringing on the doc. And thanks for showing the assembly steps.
Dr. Matthew Hwu, Razer Spokesperson. Not thrilled about the less-than-clear transparency about that here. I mean, common sense and all... this is obviously just a big ad for the chair... But I'd have still liked to see a more clearly defined "hey! This guy is the doctor from Razer's commercials!" If you absolutely have to feature him.
Agreed, also didn't know this. If there's going to be a medical professional giving advice, there needs to be a disclaimer if the professional is also being paid by a company for his appearance. I don't think his statements were wrong, but it does matter.
I don't get the issue here. It's not like he was extolling the virtues of the chair. In fact, he didn't say a single word about the chair that I noticed. Just some perfectly reasonable posture advice that would apply equally to pretty much any desk chair. What exactly does him being sponsored change about that? If instead LMG had paid him to come on and say the same things instead, would that advice somehow be more valid?
Go touch some grass dude, the doctor not even mentions the specifics of the chair, I could use ALL his tips with my 7years old Corsair, exactly as he Said. ALL these gaming chairs look the same... He wasnt there as a Razer spokeperson, he was as a Doctor, and he was Very helpful, that what IS important.@@julfy_god
@@Squirrel-ts7bb All of that just so he cant be sued. Still the fact that a Doctor uses such a gaming chair is misleading and should create the thought that this is a good chair, which many of the viewers think (see the comment section)
I lean forward over my desk when concentrating, whether on a game or work. I try to remind myself to sit up straight but start leaning forward as soon as I stop thinking about it.
wow the doctor is using a razer chair too.... that seems legit... unless razer sent him one for video too lol I got secretlab, they are rock hard, but otherwise okay i guess. Leaves a lot to be desired for sure.
@@StardustLegacyFighterExactly. Racing seats, which gaming chairs are modeled after, weren't designed for ergonomics or longterm comfort, they're designed to lock you in place so you don't get knocked around while taking corners and bumps at speed. A pair of stiff armrests, a couch pillow and a bit of lumbar support can only go so far to improve the ergonomics.
that... is a secretlabs chair... do people see this too? It has it all, the shape, the areas of different fabrics, the little RAZER tag on the shoulder, the knobs for the adjustments, all of it, even the mechanism... Im not being hyperbolic when i say that is simply a rebranded secretlabs chair with a custom lumbar support added
so are you not gonna mention that this is the doctor razer paid to be in the marketing of this chair? Seems relevant. Gating extra warranty behind BS is super scummy too btw
@@StardustLegacyFighter He never said that he recommends a gaming chair. He said that he works with gamer pros with gamer chairs and helps them have best posture. He wouldn't have accepted to work with these chairs if he didn't think they were fine to use.
@@Jj82op doctors have been perscribing people medicine based on kick backs they get from those compaines for decades. Its literally how the opiod epidemic started.
@Jj82op Okay, so he didn't verbally endorse gaming chairs, but surely in his position, he'd recommend ergonomic chairs? The only thing that makes sense here is that he may have been paid to use that chair, hence why I don't trust his words.
I swear to corner desks where I can sit in the corner and have desk out on both sides of me. A million times better than having to rely on armrests. And if you slouch as much as Hoffman, and I often do, I recommend using the tilt on the chair, rather than only leaning the back. That way your are still kept in the right "angle" and get good support.
If it wasn't green accented I'd maybe buy one, but it only comes in black with green. Also the screws coming pre-installed is an extra step for you since you have to take them out and then put them back in instead of just taking them from the bag.
I recently bought a Secret Labs Titan Evo and I'm really shocked at how nearly identical that Razer chair is compared to the Titan Evo. The Titan Evo even has the two knob lumbar support.
Posture is a real thing. I’m with you, I don’t really have any kind of “real” aches and pains, but my lower back KILLS me at times when I try to bend, to the point where I lay down most of the time when I’m not at work (if I can) Just to recuperate and not be in pain later. I really don’t game very much at all. - Most of the time I try to keep my spine straight at work, or lay down for relief (like when I’m watching your video right now, laying down) The only thing that I would love would be an inversion table. Or something that would put me upside down. That way I could straighten out my spine with gravity:-/
I was thinking to get this one but bought the Enki, because I think the Iskur is just a tad stiffer than Enki when I tried them both out which Enki also has another type of leather.. Enki is like "let's chill and play!" type of chair meanwhile Iskur is like "POSTURE! now let's get into it!"
It's 2024, how is a $650 chair not coming with the rollerblade style wheels?!?! Just generic plastic crap wheels. I put those rollerblade wheels on every chair I use, so smooth and they don't get hung up on the slightest obstacle.
650 dollar chair with a 3 year warranty is pretty bad. You can get into one of the cheaper Herman Millers on sale for that much. Their extended warranty to make it a 5-year at least doesn't cost money, just posting to social media with a picture.
I bought this chair couple months ago and its super comfy and nice looking that being said the lumber might make squeaking noises I had to replace 4 times to get one thats silent so beware lol
This makes my original Iskur that I'm sitting on like a "beta test". The right arm rest is loose since day one and there are no screws I can tighten more, it must be something structural inside. It started squeaking after few months and after 3 years the "leather" is starting to break and it feels like it'll soon completely apart.
Ngl, looks like the iskur is made right from the same factory that secretlabs uses, or they're using SL as their supplier???? the parts are identical and even the stitching language is basically almost a clone. I assume this is mainly due to same factory but that's REALLY close looks/shape and definitely part wise.
Colton's gonna be driving his shitbox and one day see a sign that says "merge to the 2 parallel left lanes" and he's gonna turn into oncoming traffic. Get this man off the roads and into math 101.
I paid 1500 for my herman miller and i don’t regret it. Yes it’s expensive but i sit more than 30h per week on it. So it better be good for me. Im not 20 anymore :-)
I know we tend to make fun of these EXPENSIVE CHAIRS. Heck I used to but I turned 40 this year and decided to try a Herman Miller Embody and I'M SO GLAD I DID. 1) I'm 6 foot 4 inches tall so this is the FIRST CHAIR THAT FITS MY BODY! 2) My back "problems" are GONE after only 3 months in the Embody. WE SPEND 1/3 OF OUR LIFE SLEEPING, MORE THAN 1/3 WORKING AND THAT MEANS SITTING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. *Invest in your Posture*.
I don’t know about you guys, but I’ve never had any problems with my shoulders or upper back. I’ve always had problems with my lower back. Specifically above my pelvis. I was always at risk for scoliosis or other back problems. Now that I’m older, I’m just dealing with those musculo skeletal issues (related to abdominal defects) The fact I’m 42 and still functioning OK says a lot. I’m just trying to be careful with my lumbar spine right now:-/ I need to not sit most of the time now . I don’t have the luxury of A) a chiropractor B) a massage therapist and C) additional income to ameliorate those issues (swimming is naturally easier on the spine) If I had the money, I would have a standing desk. I realize now a regular sitting desk is just not tenable now
Counter-Disclaimer: A lot of doctors dont know what they're doing either but their training helps them understand enough to work out the guts of the problem and teach themselves the rest. We're all winging it.
Ive had 3 gaming chairs over the years, 2 from secret labs and 1 from dxracer...im done! They are all hard as a rock, my butt literally falls asleep if I sit still in mine for more than 30mins...and they don't last...the armrest on the secret labs all started peeling and cracking, and the pu leather on the seat started peeling away after 2 years...same for the dxracer! ...maybe im just spending way too much time in them? (8hrs minimum a day) ...but with how much they cost I can't keep getting a new 1 every 3 years cause by 3 years they look like someone used them for 10 years! And with the secret labs armrest they don't keep them in stock, and when they are you find out they aren't stocked in the USA and there is only 1 shipping option which was like $30+
Is it a coincidence that this "doctor" is using the exact same chair being demonstrated in this short circuit?? seems odd that that "doctor", who you haven't suggested was independently sourced, is using the exact same chair. Can you explain? I am happy to be proven wrong, but it looks pretty sus to me.
Interesting video , as I've been looking at chairs for the last week or so trying to decide what i want... Maybe now I go for ergonomics and good posture ;D who knows
I'd avoid a gaming chair, and instead get a proper ergonomic office chair. I almost made a huge mistake by buying the Secretcrap Titan, but thankfully I came across videos from reputable furniture experts on UA-cam and up getting the Aeron. I've had it for 2 years now, and it's been amazing. You don't need to spend a huge amount of money on a good chair, but just make sure it's got a synchro tilt with a range of different adjustments.
@@StardustLegacyFighter yeah im not gonna buy a gaming char, i dont like how most of them look and they also dont look like they are comfortable.. But at least now i know my desk is a bit to high so i might lower it or get a foot rest :)
Colton is an absolute menace. Gets fired but still shows up to assemble office furniture. Now he's even putting on a lab coat and playing doctor with the staff.
The doctor said "for the next 2.5 hours" like it was big meanwhile me hitting the 12 hour mark as I am commenting and waiting in queue for my next battle in war thunder
Hello, I know I probably won't get answers but ok, I'm 1.93 meters tall and I would like to know about a good chair because everything I try seems to be small.
yeah, this V2 exactly fixes the awful glaring problem with the V1. We have the V1 here in the house, and no one wants to use it except they gave it to my niece. First two seconds I sat on one, it's exactly obviuosly the no lumbar support. You are better off sitting on a cheap PVC plastic chair for a couple of dollars. This brand needs to go away.
I was wondering where Colton was. Nice to see Linus lets him out of the dungeon once in a while
Got to make sure he gets all the tax write-offs he can!
Oh that's easy. He got fired, and then hired back for this one video, obviously. And he'll get fired again soon!
Colton's fired
It's not nice. I hope he stays in the dungeon forever this time ~
He is getting smaller due to vitamin deficiency
The doctor's advice was actually very helpful. Thanks for that
But why didnt he have socks on
@@TijmenvandenHeuvelfor the appeal
@@TijmenvandenHeuvel Cause I was at home
Eyyy Colton still employed.
He was fired again after this video
@@egeguresthey rehired him as their house doctor :,D
I wish we could have a long video about Physical Therapist and teach what is the best chair, keyboard and desk arrangement for specific person with height and size.
Want want want!
It wasn't until my 30s that my back started to have feeling (as in, I know it's there and it let's me know it's there.) When I was younger, I never once thought about my back, because it never gave me any bad feelings. 😆
@ 7min the doctor describes the exact concept of the Movably Pro. Move more. Your best posture is your next posture
Watching this i kept thinking this looked just like my secret lab chair and as the video kept going on i kept looking back and forth at my chair and the razer in the video. They’re essentially the same chair.
Exactly!
I just got a Titan evo 2 days ago and was like that is exactly what I did
They r all the same chair, nexus did a video on going and fake placing an order to get one made and its the same few companies in china making them, cost em $65 to make it
I have the secret lab and I recently tried the Razer and the Razer is more comfortable since it does not "hug" you as much like a racing seat. That being said, they are both probably made in the same factory for a fraction of what they charge.
@@Jzwiz That's not really true. GN looked at the cheaper ones, they didn't have a single higher end 'gaming chair' there. (E.g. SecretLab, Razer.) I think everyone should just buy steelcase, but that video was not unbiased.
It very heavily went on the 'cheap gaming chair' end of the spectrum. The more expensive ones are objectively far better. But you should still buy an office chair.
The one GN got made was complete garbage. SecretLabs are alright.
"All gaming chairs are kinda the same to me."
Hoffman was so real for that
Cool to have an actual PT doctor talk about seating posture briefly. I always have to remove the armrests from office chairs because they never go low enough (short torso + long arms). I should also get adjustable height desks.
Wow a gaming chair that looks like all other gaming chairs.
LUMBAR SUPPORT!!! That is in basically NO other gaming chair.
God I fuckin’ missed Colton 8:08
Crazy, theres a few brands out there that look like they get their main parts like the tilt mechanism and all that come from the same factory, with their own backrest and features. I suppose they probably do come from the same place essentially.....
Yep, the same OEMs produce these common parts.
I'm pretty sure Gamers Nexus made a great video about this a few years ago.
Yeah, like my CAD$900 Secret Labs chair that I regret buying. A huuuuge waste of money when I could have gotten a cheaper chair with all the same features for like $150, or $50 used. Bleh. Gunna try and make this Secret Labs chair last the rest of my entire life just to make it worth it. 😆
yes, i have a friend in the industry and 1 factory makes all gaming chairs.
@@StardustLegacyFighter That's not really true. GN looked at the cheaper ones, they didn't have a single higher end 'gaming chair' there. (E.g. SecretLab, Razer.) I think everyone should just buy steelcase, but that video was not unbiased.
It very heavily went on the 'cheap gaming chair' end of the spectrum. The more expensive ones are objectively far better. But you should still buy an office chair.
The one GN got made for them was complete garbage. SecretLabs are alright.
@@PhatOofYeah, they did have a look at cheap gaming chairs, instead of only focusing on high end ones, but I think that's because the vast majority of ppl do buy cheap gaming chairs.
However, that doesn't mean Razer and Secretlab don't use the same OEMs to source parts for their chairs, especially since both have factories in China.
The quality of the parts are decent, but it's a moot point, because we know that they don't hold up as well when compared to most mid tier to high end office chairs.
Watching this makes me happy I bought a Steelcase and not a gaming chair. The quality is night and day difference. Plus a 7 year warranty shows they actually trust their quality.
7 years?
I thought their chairs have a 12 year warranty, just like Herman Miller?
@@StardustLegacyFighter Maybe - hope I don't need to use it.
@MrDobiedoobie No need to worry, as their warranty service is regarded as the best in the business.
I'm pretty sure both Steelcase and Herman Miller have a 12 years warranty with 24/7 usage.
Just make sure you have the warranty information handy, in case you ever need it.
Yea maybe u are right but the price for chair is extremely different to razer. I dont want to defend gaiming chair cuz its trash btw :)
1:15 colton already failed doctors advice: dont carry heavy things like this
Most people dont know to lift with the knees not the spine :( If you're reading this and don't know what it means - get as close to the object as possible, shift your feet shoulder length apart and squat to lift, keeping your back straight and not arched. If something is so heavy you have to arch your back to move it, consider a different approach. Back injuries are no joke!
Clear case of underestimating the weight for a box but already being committed 😅
Razers warranty was a nightmare on my Iskur. The tilt mechanism welds were poorly done and it took them 4 months to send a replacement.
I have a lot of pain issues from an autoimmune disease and fwiw the Iskur v1 has been fantastic and held up very well since I bought it several years ago.
My ergonomic issues are related to my desk height more than the chair at this point. Exactly the problem Colton has actually
I just bought a Herman miller x Logitech Embody on FB marketplace for $600. Destroys any of these “gamer” chairs and built like an absolute tank. I’d recommend that over these gamer chairs.
That's a pretty good deal but this chair actually has more adjustability than the embody. Every chair has different benefits and matches to a specific distribution of body types.
The chair is only one part of the picture though as I mentioned :)
@@1HPyou’re correct about the adjustability. If that’s what you value then I can see why this would be appealing; but why not go for an established brand with lots of adjustability such as the Steelcase Leap v2/Gesture or something similar? I just have a bad impression about any major gamer brand when they make chairs. These type of racer type of seats were designed to be in sports cars to hold you in place when taking the corner at high speeds (hence the bolstering) so I’m not sure how this translates into a desk chair.
I can see that you specialize in ergonomics so I won’t try to debate you. I am a plastic surgery resident so I somewhat know about posture and such but mainly deal with soft tissues; just my two cents :)
I might've gotten this chair, but bonded leather is a deal breaker for me. That leather will flake and peel in a few years.
Fabric is offered
You failed to mention the most important difference to the Iskur v1 as far as I can see, and the reason I went for the Enki instead of the original Iskur. From this video, it looks like there are no more "wings" on the seat, you know, those wings on the side of the seat with metal bars on them that push your thighs towards the inside. From the video it looks like they are now soft, same as the Enki, which is a big improvement, and honestly the biggest improvement from v1. Weird you never mentioned it, it was the single deciding factor for me not buying the original.
Dr. Hwu needs his own tv serie, where he travels around and save victims of bad posture 🤗
I'm down
Love how he praised the predone screws then immediately had to do twice the work you normally would if you just screwed in loose ones.
man after doing the arm rest posture check my previously used height of the arm rests feel wrong now, i guess that doctor was totally legit.
Corrects him with "parallel" but didn't actually check to see what perpendicular meant.
i learned something, thanks for bringing the doc on.
@gagnarork I am a real physical therapist though :(
Simple and effective tips from the doc, thanks for bringin him in and that "your best posture is your next posture" advice is great. I found the same tip a few years ago when looking for a new chair that are designed with that in mind. They are not usually the most comfortable but offer many posture options and encourage you to be active. Those kind of chairs will be my choice whenever possible from now on.
this is such a good idea to make a chair unboxing more interesting, great job!
I have a V1 Iskur and the lumbar support changed my life...working 9+ hours a day in a sitting position, I started having lower backache and my feet were numb prior to this chair, so yeah, it's a good buy, although it's quite pricy at retail ( I got mine on BF sale for roughly €250)
8:43 - doc starts by getting him to lower chair - immediately puts it back up...
To defend the doctor here. He told him to lower his chair so he can give an example of how the angles of the legs are supposed to be and feet fully planted on the ground.
When he tells him to raise the chair back up. He's giving him use cases of why foot rests are important in the event desks are too high compared to the user. You can see the foot rest soon after he says this to make up for the lack of height. He's still sitting in the ideal position this way even after raising the height to match the desk.
Because the standard desk height is too goddamn high and I don't understand why. From looking at various desks I noticed most of them are around 74 cm tall, but this is too high. At that height, you have to lift up your chair to the max, which in most cases means you're barely touching the ground with your feet so you also need a footrest. I'm 1.85m tall, so not short by any means.
@@GDRobbye wow, just checked how low my $300 "SHW Adjustable Desk" lowers, and it hits 70.5cm, which seems low enough for a child! I'm 6 foot tall, and my preferred desk height is 75cm. I definitely agree with you that 74cms should not be the absolute minimum for one of these desk; way too high.
They used a lot of the same parts at Secret Labs I see. Like those arm rests are exactly the same as the 2024 models
And Secret Labs' arm rests are actually horrendous; especially for a CAD$900 freakin' chair! >_< I bought one and regret it... The arm rests feel like they're from a $25 chair. They're not even solid; they wiggle every single way and it was this way right out of the box. These things aren't built well at all. Companies are just jumping on the band wagon of creating "premium" products for gamers, but aren't actually creating "premium" products. Just their price tags are premium. Never again with a Secret Labs chair. Such garbage. Worth like $250 max! Not the $900 I spent.
@@imjody that's cap as hell. I got an XL 2024 model and it's easily the sturdiest chair I ever had. I'm 6'6" and like 280 pounds normal ass chairs start squeaking within a month of owning them. I've bought many $300-500 chair and the secret lab one I have now is by far the best. I will agree the normal arm rests aren't super plush but I got the memory foam up graded ones and they are a dream. My arm rests also wiggle the least out of any chair I've owned with moveable arm rests. You must have gotten a dud or somethin.
What?! I came for a chair review and also got a few pointers on proper chair height. Turns out I had been setting my old Iskur chair at the wrong height for the last two years. I want those two years of my life back. Not your fault, though. Thanks for bringing on the doc. And thanks for showing the assembly steps.
Dr. Matthew Hwu, Razer Spokesperson. Not thrilled about the less-than-clear transparency about that here. I mean, common sense and all... this is obviously just a big ad for the chair... But I'd have still liked to see a more clearly defined "hey! This guy is the doctor from Razer's commercials!" If you absolutely have to feature him.
Agreed, also didn't know this. If there's going to be a medical professional giving advice, there needs to be a disclaimer if the professional is also being paid by a company for his appearance.
I don't think his statements were wrong, but it does matter.
I don't get the issue here. It's not like he was extolling the virtues of the chair. In fact, he didn't say a single word about the chair that I noticed. Just some perfectly reasonable posture advice that would apply equally to pretty much any desk chair. What exactly does him being sponsored change about that? If instead LMG had paid him to come on and say the same things instead, would that advice somehow be more valid?
bruh that's terrible they don't mention this lol. hitting new lows i guess
Go touch some grass dude, the doctor not even mentions the specifics of the chair, I could use ALL his tips with my 7years old Corsair, exactly as he Said. ALL these gaming chairs look the same... He wasnt there as a Razer spokeperson, he was as a Doctor, and he was Very helpful, that what IS important.@@julfy_god
@@Squirrel-ts7bb All of that just so he cant be sued. Still the fact that a Doctor uses such a gaming chair is misleading and should create the thought that this is a good chair, which many of the viewers think (see the comment section)
I lean forward over my desk when concentrating, whether on a game or work. I try to remind myself to sit up straight but start leaning forward as soon as I stop thinking about it.
wow the doctor is using a razer chair too.... that seems legit... unless razer sent him one for video too lol I got secretlab, they are rock hard, but otherwise okay i guess. Leaves a lot to be desired for sure.
its the doctor Razer paid to be in all of their marketing for the chair so you know... grain of salt and all that.
Well, if you ever decide to change out your chair, look for an ergonomic office chair, instead of a gaming chair with a silly racing style seat.
Those racing style seats ruined my hip, don't use them.
@@StardustLegacyFighterExactly. Racing seats, which gaming chairs are modeled after, weren't designed for ergonomics or longterm comfort, they're designed to lock you in place so you don't get knocked around while taking corners and bumps at speed. A pair of stiff armrests, a couch pillow and a bit of lumbar support can only go so far to improve the ergonomics.
The iskur I bought only lasted a year and a half now it’s making creaking noises and the seems are coming apart… wouldn’t advice
that... is a secretlabs chair... do people see this too? It has it all, the shape, the areas of different fabrics, the little RAZER tag on the shoulder, the knobs for the adjustments, all of it, even the mechanism... Im not being hyperbolic when i say that is simply a rebranded secretlabs chair with a custom lumbar support added
so are you not gonna mention that this is the doctor razer paid to be in the marketing of this chair? Seems relevant. Gating extra warranty behind BS is super scummy too btw
I just find it baffling that a doctor would recommend use a gaming chair, instead of a proper office chair.
@@StardustLegacyFighter money
@@StardustLegacyFighter He never said that he recommends a gaming chair. He said that he works with gamer pros with gamer chairs and helps them have best posture. He wouldn't have accepted to work with these chairs if he didn't think they were fine to use.
@@Jj82op doctors have been perscribing people medicine based on kick backs they get from those compaines for decades. Its literally how the opiod epidemic started.
@Jj82op Okay, so he didn't verbally endorse gaming chairs, but surely in his position, he'd recommend ergonomic chairs?
The only thing that makes sense here is that he may have been paid to use that chair, hence why I don't trust his words.
i actually really like colton on camera. he has immensely grown on me (and presumptively gotten so much better at hosting/appearing)
I swear to corner desks where I can sit in the corner and have desk out on both sides of me.
A million times better than having to rely on armrests.
And if you slouch as much as Hoffman, and I often do, I recommend using the tilt on the chair, rather than only leaning the back. That way your are still kept in the right "angle" and get good support.
"my sitting posture is not so good" immediately corrects my own sitting posture
Honestly, really cool that you had an actual doctor on to talk about it
He has a Doctorate, but he's technically not a MD.
Don't forget to check info description where it says *Colton* is not an actual doctor
He never claimed to be?
If it wasn't green accented I'd maybe buy one, but it only comes in black with green. Also the screws coming pre-installed is an extra step for you since you have to take them out and then put them back in instead of just taking them from the bag.
I recently bought a Secret Labs Titan Evo and I'm really shocked at how nearly identical that Razer chair is compared to the Titan Evo. The Titan Evo even has the two knob lumbar support.
Colton, Professional Sitter
Posture is a real thing.
I’m with you, I don’t really have any kind of “real” aches and pains, but my lower back KILLS me at times when I try to bend, to the point where I lay down most of the time when I’m not at work (if I can)
Just to recuperate and not be in pain later.
I really don’t game very much at all.
- Most of the time I try to keep my spine straight at work, or lay down for relief (like when I’m watching your video right now, laying down)
The only thing that I would love would be an inversion table. Or something that would put me upside down. That way I could straighten out my spine with gravity:-/
Doc spoke about posture super realistically. Appreciate that
I was thinking to get this one but bought the Enki, because I think the Iskur is just a tad stiffer than Enki when I tried them both out which Enki also has another type of leather..
Enki is like "let's chill and play!" type of chair meanwhile Iskur is like "POSTURE! now let's get into it!"
Lewis Hamilton told me, i don't need a car seat in my gaming loft....
It's 2024, how is a $650 chair not coming with the rollerblade style wheels?!?! Just generic plastic crap wheels. I put those rollerblade wheels on every chair I use, so smooth and they don't get hung up on the slightest obstacle.
So when is the budget chair episode coming? No one's got 700 to spend on a chair
Posture Potter is very catchy
650 dollar chair with a 3 year warranty is pretty bad. You can get into one of the cheaper Herman Millers on sale for that much. Their extended warranty to make it a 5-year at least doesn't cost money, just posting to social media with a picture.
extended cut of the doctor interview fpexclusive when
Nah - Y'all gotta try the Razer Iskur V2. The tilt mechanics and lumbar support system is different from other gaming chair brands.
I wasn’t excepting to learn about posture today, good stuff!
I bought this chair couple months ago and its super comfy and nice looking that being said the lumber might make squeaking noises I had to replace 4 times to get one thats silent so beware lol
omg its colton!!
This makes my original Iskur that I'm sitting on like a "beta test". The right arm rest is loose since day one and there are no screws I can tighten more, it must be something structural inside. It started squeaking after few months and after 3 years the "leather" is starting to break and it feels like it'll soon completely apart.
Ngl, looks like the iskur is made right from the same factory that secretlabs uses, or they're using SL as their supplier???? the parts are identical and even the stitching language is basically almost a clone. I assume this is mainly due to same factory but that's REALLY close looks/shape and definitely part wise.
Is that a Razer recommended doctor? Because he is sitting in a Razer chair. 👀
8:50 this is the problem with most desks. They designed for writing on a piece of paper, not for pc with keyboard and mouse.
"The best posture is your next posture" is an incredible important advice for preventing all kinds of orthopedic illnesses
Really liked having the doctor on - posture is something I should pay more attention to.
It’s good to see Colton once again get out of probationary period for 65th time of being rehired
Probably breaks 2 days after the warranty is up, like every other Razer product.
This started like a short circuit but ended like a main channel video
Colton's gonna be driving his shitbox and one day see a sign that says "merge to the 2 parallel left lanes" and he's gonna turn into oncoming traffic. Get this man off the roads and into math 101.
😂😂😂😂
Nothing beats a good office chair. You pay a lot for the word "gaming" in a "gaming chair".
I find you typically pay a lot more for the word "office" than you do for the word "gaming" when it comes to chairs.
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Maybe for the warranty. Office chairs typically offer 10-15 years of warranty compared to something like this Razer chair at 3 years.
Not really, generally it's a discount. Office chairs are far better - but are expensive
I paid 1500 for my herman miller and i don’t regret it. Yes it’s expensive but i sit more than 30h per week on it. So it better be good for me. Im not 20 anymore :-)
@@El_duderino87 I wish I could afford a Herman Miller but I'm stuck with this awful secretlab. I'll at least be getting an Aeron at work soon though
Only thing that chair is lacking is a seatbelt
Nailed it. 😂
Not trying to be rude. But this was one of the most helpful videos out of LMG for a while lol
Super great tips from the doc !
This looks exactly the same as a noblechairs hero, i assume they must source from the same location unless its some other partnership.
I know we tend to make fun of these EXPENSIVE CHAIRS. Heck I used to but I turned 40 this year and decided to try a Herman Miller Embody and I'M SO GLAD I DID. 1) I'm 6 foot 4 inches tall so this is the FIRST CHAIR THAT FITS MY BODY! 2) My back "problems" are GONE after only 3 months in the Embody. WE SPEND 1/3 OF OUR LIFE SLEEPING, MORE THAN 1/3 WORKING AND THAT MEANS SITTING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. *Invest in your Posture*.
dang that interlacing is nutty. did anyone mention this to the nice doctor?
I don’t know about you guys, but I’ve never had any problems with my shoulders or upper back.
I’ve always had problems with my lower back. Specifically above my pelvis.
I was always at risk for scoliosis or other back problems.
Now that I’m older, I’m just dealing with those musculo skeletal issues (related to abdominal defects)
The fact I’m 42 and still functioning OK says a lot. I’m just trying to be careful with my lumbar spine right now:-/
I need to not sit most of the time now . I don’t have the luxury of
A) a chiropractor
B) a massage therapist
and
C) additional income to ameliorate those issues (swimming is naturally easier on the spine)
If I had the money, I would have a standing desk. I realize now a regular sitting desk is just not tenable now
Never again so called gaming chairs. This is one of them
Counter-Disclaimer: A lot of doctors dont know what they're doing either but their training helps them understand enough to work out the guts of the problem and teach themselves the rest. We're all winging it.
12:00 Isn't it Parallel to the floor and Perpendicular to the lower leg?
Missed you Colton!!
Ive had 3 gaming chairs over the years, 2 from secret labs and 1 from dxracer...im done! They are all hard as a rock, my butt literally falls asleep if I sit still in mine for more than 30mins...and they don't last...the armrest on the secret labs all started peeling and cracking, and the pu leather on the seat started peeling away after 2 years...same for the dxracer! ...maybe im just spending way too much time in them? (8hrs minimum a day) ...but with how much they cost I can't keep getting a new 1 every 3 years cause by 3 years they look like someone used them for 10 years! And with the secret labs armrest they don't keep them in stock, and when they are you find out they aren't stocked in the USA and there is only 1 shipping option which was like $30+
Looks just like every other "copy, paste" gaming chair.. Buy an office chair or executive chair if you're looking for comfort :D
sure wish they make xl versio of this one and make pillow magnetic or then secretlab to copy their pillow and back
Hope they fixed the piston. Mine stopped staying up after less than a year.
Is it sturdy enough for two people to sit on it at the same time?
It's always fun to see Colton again... and that he still has a job. Haha!
this session was super helpful
@ShortCircuit a LONG version would be great! I'm sure EVERYONE who is sits on a desk would appreciate it.... I would!
What type of desk do you sit on?
I can't find any that can hold my weight. 😞
Anyone else notice the " doctor" has the same razor chair. 🤔
He is their spokesperson so I would expect so
these gaming chairs are the opposite of ergonomic
The only advice I'd ever gotten before for ergonomics was that the only bad posture is the one you hold for too long
Is it a coincidence that this "doctor" is using the exact same chair being demonstrated in this short circuit?? seems odd that that "doctor", who you haven't suggested was independently sourced, is using the exact same chair. Can you explain? I am happy to be proven wrong, but it looks pretty sus to me.
He's literally in one of Razer's promotional videos about this chair, lol.
I think office chairs are better than gaming chairs.
Interesting video , as I've been looking at chairs for the last week or so trying to decide what i want... Maybe now I go for ergonomics and good posture ;D who knows
I'd avoid a gaming chair, and instead get a proper ergonomic office chair.
I almost made a huge mistake by buying the Secretcrap Titan, but thankfully I came across videos from reputable furniture experts on UA-cam and up getting the Aeron.
I've had it for 2 years now, and it's been amazing.
You don't need to spend a huge amount of money on a good chair, but just make sure it's got a synchro tilt with a range of different adjustments.
@@StardustLegacyFighter yeah im not gonna buy a gaming char, i dont like how most of them look and they also dont look like they are comfortable.. But at least now i know my desk is a bit to high so i might lower it or get a foot rest :)
Colton is an absolute menace. Gets fired but still shows up to assemble office furniture. Now he's even putting on a lab coat and playing doctor with the staff.
The doctor said "for the next 2.5 hours" like it was big meanwhile me hitting the 12 hour mark as I am commenting and waiting in queue for my next battle in war thunder
Is this just a rebranded secret lab chair?
it's not 4D! The correct term is 4 axes adjustment. I don't know if Razer marketing decided on this name or what but it is the wrong term.
Honestly a really good video
Yay Colton is employed again!
Hello, I know I probably won't get answers but ok, I'm 1.93 meters tall and I would like to know about a good chair because everything I try seems to be small.
yeah, this V2 exactly fixes the awful glaring problem with the V1. We have the V1 here in the house, and no one wants to use it except they gave it to my niece. First two seconds I sat on one, it's exactly obviuosly the no lumbar support. You are better off sitting on a cheap PVC plastic chair for a couple of dollars. This brand needs to go away.
Don't know how to feel about having the "DR" on that is on Razers advertisment page