Best Value Gravel Bike Under $2K?!
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2023
- Looking for a Good Value Gravel Bike under $2K?
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I worked at the local shop level for years. When Canyon hit the market we hated them. As a cyclist who now has to pay normal, non pro form prices I love the concept. I now refer to them as the “ex mechanics special". The Endurance CF I bought last year is as good as the equivalent spec’d red “S" model. That purp drank color is reason enough to buy that Grizl let alone the fact they have it on sale for $1600.
For curiosity sake, what about Canyon didn't you like? I've been eyeing their bikes for a while now.
@@josephcaserta5692it’s because they worked at a physical store. So, direct to consumer is always “hated” because they are less expensive thus reducing the number of bikes sold in store.
@@smccrode Yes, and No. Typically what I see is Fantastic marketing and sloppy support after the sale.
1 guy got very lucky they warrantied his 3-4 month old cracked frame.
IMO, Canyon are still too expensive. The bike industry has to come back to sanity.
Dude...I can't imagine, or believe why you don't have at least, 1,000,000 subs!
The work and effort you put into creating your videos deserves AWARDS!
Too Portlandia with the puke purple. That’s why.
Facts! This is one of the best biking channels there is.
Wow, thank you!
Been road biking for years but was interested in trying out the gravel craze. Didn’t want to drop an insane amount of money for a quality Gravel bike so I love what brands like Canyon and Fezzari offer. More for less. After seeing this video I pulled the trigger on getting one for myself. Couldn’t be more stoked! Never thought I would’ve ever bought a Fuchsia colored bike but really, it’s sick!
Also great content! Thanks for the work you put in and the quality in which you do it.
I got a Canyon Neuron and I´m mucho impressed with the stock accessories and wheelset it came with. No changes besides saddle.
Yes!!!! This is the review I’ve been waiting for!!! I am in LOVE with that Grape Grizl!
I was thinking about grizl, but decided to go with cheap Poseidon X Ambition and upgrade it with few parts.. since I am more MTB, and gravel is not my primary bike. love it.. the only con - max tire width is like 44mm for 700C wheels and 1.9-2 for 650b...
I have the Grizl CF SL 7. Been riding it almost every day for a year and a half now. Love it! The saddle mine came with might be worse than the one yours came with tho as at least yours has the channel in the middle. An advantage of the AL frame is that it has rear rack mounts that the CF lacks. The bike has an "aggressive" stack and reach so flipping the stem was a must for me.
Great video, Dustin!
I have a Grizl 7 AL suspension and it works like a charm. I agree on the saddle being too grippy and I will be changing it. I also had some doubts about riding on the road, but now it's totally fine. Cheers! 🍻
Nice! My wife has the 6 on order. Similat bike with 2x grx400 looks like like a pretty sweet setup for 1300 bucks
I'm looking to finally pull the trigger on a good quality, versatile, gravel bike and happened upon your channel and absolutely love your approach to showcasing bikes. Concise, entertaining, good editing, and very even volume tones with no wind noise. Well done! Also this bike is at the top of my list from the research I've done.
Matt, I appreciate your good words. IF you go with the Canyon let them know I sent you ;)
WHY DOES THIS GUY ONLY HAVE LIKE 100k SUB??!?! subbed!
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Great video. Nice combination of fun, fact and opinion. Strong technical/aesthetic as well. Happy trails!
I recently bought the Grizl CF-SL7. Made it tubeless and changed that horrific saddle. The bike is fantastic!
I got the carbon version of this (at a nice discount because of my job). Swapped the saddle to something more comfortable. Put a wolftooth roadlink and a spuper wide 11-42t cassette on the 2x so I have tons of range for making it through hard climbs even though I'm not the most fit rider in the group. Put a more flared handlebar on for personal preference. The fenders were in stock in Germany so I have them on. Made it though tons of muddy and wet rides recently staying prettty clean compared to my group :)
I actually really like the grippy saddle on my fixed gear bike though.
It has so many mounts and is such a solid bike, I still go back and forth on whether I should have gotten the Alu version for the extra rack mounts. But the Alu version doesn"t come in the Curry Yellow color :)
Hi there, I have the Grizl CF 7 and just love it!! I did replace the handle bar for a carbon one, the saddle and put a redshift stem on it. Thanks for great video content! 😊
i love my grizl! My 8th Canyon since 2000. Tip: Also a good colour matching for the canyon matchia (green/grey) colour is the specialized Recon 2.0 Gravel/Road bike Shoe in blue (the blue is more of a grey).
Lentil Stew Only! 😅
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I have a Canyon Grizl CF SL 7 1by and I love it. I did upgrade the saddle immediately but that's standard practice and upgraded the wheels a few months after purchase. Got her down to 19 pounds!
Just got the Grizl SL7 carbon a week ago and am loving it! My first carbon bike upgrading from a salsa journeyman and holy cow.
One month ago I got the CF SL 8 in rim brake mafia. You're right the saddle has to go, way too grippy. I slapped on some Mercury S5's with 28mm tires. I'm really digging this bike. Note: sizes run big so talk to a rep before ordering.
Great video, loved the edit with the music, and cutscenes. I got a Grizl 7 Al too and really enjoy it! It's fast, capable and reasonably comfortable. On top of the saddle I switched the handlebars as well, rather poor stock bars
I literally been looking at this exact machine dude. Look forward to see your insights.
Cool Video! Did a small test ride on one last year and was impressed for the money.........Purchased a CF SL 7 1by with the dropper and rode it for 6-7 months. It came with the same terrible seat and the same gearing. I quickly swapped out the stock 42t for a 46t xt cassette and it was a much better climber. I had a few issues with the seat post slipping which seems to be kind of a thing with some Canyon's, however Canyon has good support and helped to sort out.
Definitely like my Grizl CF SL 6 with 2x10 GRX for big bikepacking adventures with pretty long paved sections.
Great review! I love the looks of that bike. Modern aluminum frames are much better than the early years. Those first gen cannondales (had an '85) were harsh. Will you talk about those shoes more?
I ride a Grail AL and love it. Canyon sell their own fender kit that goes to those small bolt holes and it is actually really good right out the box. Mine is on the bike all year.
I have a canyon Lux World Cup CF mtb and I love it, rides super nice and the remote lockout is sweet.
I have a Canyon Aeroad, its damn fast, feels fast, but you can still ride century's (miles) with ease. I also have a Grail Sl with the hover bar and split seat post running 38's and 2X. It the perfect all round weapon. Not as fast as the Aeroad but more than capable on-road and is tough enough for abuse off-the-road too and with the 48th big ring you can go faaast on the smooth gravel/ fire roads here in the UK.. Great content.
This is the most awesome bike review I've ever seen, love it!
Got my hands on a grail and lovin' it. Know the issue with the fenders but there is a solution! Canyon sales specific fendors for their bikes. Easy to install but sadly a little bit to short. Ride on 🤙
I got the Grizl 8 and I am super happy with it. Just finished my first 4 day trip with the bike and could not be more happy.
I got a Canyon Grizl CF 7 Rival AXS last year and it has been my everything bike. It's tremendous off-road and yet with a spare set of wheels running Panaracer 622-40 slicks it hoons along on road rides fast enough. Can't fault it - as for the mudguards/fenders I got them when I ordered the bike but they're the same as the Grail:ON set
This is a great video and the Capita Neo Slasher in the back made it even better. I like this guy.
I also have the Canyon Grizl...light green color 2x drivetrain...love it!
I'm a road bike person, but I just got this bike. I took it for its first ride today, and I dig it. I don't hate the saddle, but I did regret forgetting my gloves- my hands wanted more padding.
I have the Canyon Grizl (Carbon Fiber) since it came out. Absolute love it.
Man, I think you are a magician with putting this adventure together for my viewing on a Saturday night!
I have this pink beauty and I love it. Ive been a die hard enduro rider for ever, and bought this bike to dip my toes into gravel riding. What a BA machine! I did 30 miles my first ride on it because it was so fun and zoomy haha.
Dude i've been on the fence about a grizl. Thanks for this. I'm jumping it on it now.
Mega vid, another ace route.
Bike looks mint 🏁🏁💪💪💐
Great review. very informative and entertaining.
Hey Dustin! I've got a Canyon Grail Al with electronic shifters and bought the AXS dropper and it's so much fun. The fender situation is something you got to get from Canyon themselves. Got rid of the butt-rubber as well. Munched away my pants! Thanks for the awesome vids and keep on Gravlin'!
That is awesome!
I have got those canyon fenders, they are solid!
The thing with Canyon is if you want no-problem 10-minute assembly accessories (mudguards, racks, kickstands) then you have to go with their stuff. They are good, they fit perfectly but yeah... that's a vendor lock-in.
I ride with he Grizl CF SL 7 eTap, its a great bike. It's been my first direct to consumer bike, had some minor issues with the seat clamp but canyon sorted out right away. I also appreciate canyon offering a true XXL frame that fits taller riders.
An XXL?! How tall are you? Usually ride MTBs but looking at the Grizl and at 5'11" canyon is saying small frame?!
I have and LOVE that saddle. A cheap, short, crazy comfy gravel saddle that feels just right. I hear you on the sticky factor, but I like that vibe, the more "slippery" saddles can be challenging on a gravel or mtb because slipping out of position is worse than a temporary adjustment of starting in the wrong position, IMHO
I have the same bike, and switched out the saddle as well, for it being too sticky. Just goes to show that saddle choice is very personal.
Saddle is good 👍😊.. personal preference 4 sure 😊👍👋
Have had a Grail for nearly three years - LOVE IT! Got it just before the Grizl was announced. Going back to Koblenz in a couple weeks to try one for my wife.
I love m’y Grizl !! I just had a problem with the crankset but all good. The bike versatile and fast. I agree with your cons and it needs a dropper for sure haha
I got 2 Canyon’s, road and gravel, absolutely love it.
I just ordered Grizl 7 AL with a suspension fork, 2by (matcha). Was "forced" due to out of stock of the other one with rigid fork, because who knows when it will be available again. Didn't want to wait and hope. Paid extra 200 Euro. Hope I made a right choice! Can't wait to try it!
I've been canyon curious for a while!
Canyon Ultimate owner since 2020 and love it. My only complaint would be the 1 1/4” steerer tube width which makes the inevitable post purchase stem customization a pain
Have one the same Colour, grx also 2x front. But the frame finish It’s smooth, you can’t see the welding in the frame. Mine’s last year model.
have a very similar grizl AL, same colour, but with the double chainrings. I love it, as you noticed too I changed the saddle with a Prologo but for the rest it's 100% stock and works great. Best money ever spent on a bike.
The scenery! Wow!
got a Grizl CF SL 6 and I‘m freaking LOVE IT🤯🤘🏻
Great vid once again Dustin! I have the Grizl CF SL 7 eTap since late 2021. Now gone full Xplr mode with dropper and Rudy fork and it’s one hell of a mountain machine but a load more fun than those ‘official’ mountain machine bicycles. Plus there ain’t no mountains on the South Coast UK 🤦🏻♂️ Don bike tho 😂
I have an Endurace 7 and I love it. And I completely agree with you about the saddle. I have the same one and it’s too grippy to the point where I almost fell over because I waited a little too late to get off when I came to a stop. I’m going to get myself a Fizik Argo Tempo R3. Which saddle will you replace with?
I have this bike in green and I love it. Mine came with a WTB saddle, and I switched the carbon seat post to a Tranz X suspension seat post.
I have the same bike just smaller and it came with the grx810 rear derailleur and grx600 everywhere else. Love this bike! 👍🏽
This has the 810 derailleur. The default GRX600 groupset build has 600 shifters and crank, 400 brakes, and 800 derailleurs.
Great video, really helped me on my decision. Keep it up!
Glad to hear it!
Bought a Canyon Grail 6 last spring. Love it!
I got the Grizl 7 AL with Rock Shox suspension. I Love everything about it besides the saddle it came with. Got Fizik Terra Argo instead.
I almost bought a Canyon a few years ago. I still love my Chumba Terlingua, steel. Ordered it straight from Chumba, had it together in under an hour.
Canyon still interests me.
I have a top spec Spectral 27.5 from the year before they made the 29. (Fox 36 Factory, XTR, DT XMC 1200)
It’s okay but I do at times feel like it’s a lot of nice parts hanging off a less than ideal frame. It doesn’t feel like the geo was all the way thought out - I had to slam the stem and find a negative rise one (they enduro team at the time was all doing the same) because the head tube is super long. The seat tube is also really long and my brother who’s about 2.5” shorter than me can nearly use a 150mm dropper in it (slammed). The external/internal hybrid cable management thing seemed cool before I got it but in practice feels cheap as the whole downtube is shrouded in black plastic. Feels like just a cost saving measure as it’s not really any easier to service.
I love, love,love canyon. Have an endurace di2 and grand canyon hardtail. If you know what you want without trying out bikes there is no better option. Their fit guide is spot on.
I have a Canyon Endurace CF8 LTD. Love it! Definitely looking at a Grizl.
I bought this bike for my gf last summer! It is the greatest cyclo touring, gravel grinder and all around fun machine ever.
Great review which was also entertaining and funny
Amazing video Dustin. Im in the Netherlands and riding a Grizl SL 7 for gravel. Curry yellow ofcourse. Love the bike and with 2.3k euro is bang for buck. GRX 600/800 mix and carbon. It rips!
Just found your channel, I appreciate the production quality and nice edit, subbed.
Much appreciated!
Bought the grail cfsl8 2 months ago. Loved the ride, especially the 2 peice seatpost, but sent it back because I could not dig the pastel yellow and black. Extremely easy return process. Wish I had this review before, I was worried the grizl would be sluggish on the road.
the section with the grx stock bit.. pure lols
I have a Canyon XC MTB...the Exceed CF SL. Love it!
The only thing weird is the geo and sizing on the Canyon Grizl.
But I'd also hardly call it an "entry level" aluminum @ just under $2k. It's an entry level in their lineup, but hardly entry level in the market.
The 700x50 Aggregates are great tires. I have a set of those along with 700x50 Kimberlites, also fantastic!
They both roll along smooth and quiet, and they're very durable/reliable. In 2yrs I've never got a puncture with either set!
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Зарання дякую❤
I had a Canyon Grizl CFSL8 last season. The vibrations were violent, I sold it and bought a fairlight faran.
Hey Dustin! How cool are your videos. Thank you for that quality. Greetings from Ibiza!
Hey, thanks!
changed the saddle of my grizl at once to a wtb gravelier. great.
Yeah, I don't like a grippy saddle either. I'm a "shuffler" on the saddle and constantly move around, unless I'm on the track when I'm in one position but not for very long.
Not sure why I needed to share that really. Cool story. 😊
❤the video man !!! wish I was there with you guys !
Player!
The shoe/bike matchy match game is STRONG! Much enve😜
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Thanks for video,.....waiting for the Grizl CF SLX 8 eTap Suspension in XL to hit he market, these bikes are the best value going right now.....
The big plus is that Canyon and Shimano has support for their products at the Unbound Gravel race. I'm not sure about other gravel races.
I have the same saddle on my Giant Revolt Gravel bike, and it is indeed very grippie! But it get's less over time, but sliding is still not possible. And about fenders: canyon sells custom grizzl fenders!
Hello!
I have 2 canyon bikes, road and gravel….love them, for the money I have a lot
I have one of the first gravel models in aluminum Inflate, love it I went through a different terrain and always responded good.
You shoud do a video about sun care. I also ordered the sunblock that you recommended. Hopefully it doesn't blind me when I'm riding (like the others)
Amazing video. Just maybe one more question i'm still divided between Grizl or Gral CF SL 7.0 - which one would you pick (yeah, i mean that bike with the hover bars :D) I'm living on the small vilage but we have so many tarmac and little bit of farm roads, no hard gravel or hard terrain. But I'm worried what if i would do some bikepacking one/twice a year - would be grail good? I like speed on tarmac because i'm coming from roads. :D
Keep making vids, I don’t have time for that long of rides, but I am living vicariously through y’all 😂
I GOT YOU🤘🏻
Thanks for the entertaining review! I have the same bike... I suppose european version is different. I have 2x cranks. Agree with the both of you observations: the saddle is crap (already changed it) and the feel of the ride with tubeless is just super for the money.
Man, the video is so awesome and you deserve more views. I can't wait to receive the Grizl 8 1by EKAR. I have already a MTB grand Canyon CF SL 6.9 and a CF SF carbon.. and they are greaaaaat.
Ohh man Im stoked for your Ekar Grizl thats going to so much fun!
Bought a Grail Al at the beginning of covid. Bought the Canyon fenders - they come with the proper bolts for those lil holes - they are great!!
I was looking for those on the website and it only showed fenders for the Grail. So I didn’t know if the grizzle Ashley had its own fenders. Now I know and thank you.
Grizl fenders have been out of stock forever :(
Agreed, I have the 2020 Grail and while I wish there were more options for fenders, the Canyon ones are solid.
"Ooh I'm stopping.... ooh safety first" absolutely floored me lol
I have a 2021 Grail AL 6. Quality bike. I got some posh DT Swiss carbon gravel wheels and it’s transformed it further. Don’t need a posh expensive frame. The tech in bikes is so good now. Wheels make the biggest difference to performance and weight saving. Canyons are great value for the money. My only gripe is that the frames are mostly made in China.
it's kind of insane calling near $2K bike - entry level....good bike though.
I would probably call it lower midrange, its not high end but Its not low end either.
Iduno, even if you make $500/wk that’s a months pay for a bike you can ride and enjoy and keep for years. Kinda makes sense that in 2023 $1800 is the new “affordable” imo.
Yeah let's see some Claris 8 speed!
Don't expect a round BB thread on a Canyon bice at this low end range. Probably welded by their blind Chinese division too.
That’s pocket change these days when you compare to some lol.
Great video - you guys are so lucky with the amazing terrain you have to ride on - those views!!!!! I’m a big fan of canyons - I have their endurance road bike, and have had a grail previously as well.
We are blessed with the train, but we pay for it with the weather. 🤣
Appreciate you, Phillip
Where did you ride?
I had to watch @3:07
a few times to figure out what you did there. Nice editing!
Super cool video. It makes me want to ride with you guys!
This is the second review I’ve seen on the Grizl where the reviewer didn’t like the grippy seat - and looks like there’s a third mentioned in the comments of the other review. I kinda hope they keep this saddle in case I do decide to buy one. My experience with my old CAAD9 after an expensive laser fit years ago is that when I’m pushing, my butt automatically slides forward and out of the ideal position at the back of the saddle. I’d love a stickier saddle! However, I’m not experienced with trail riding, which it looks like you guys are doing. Maybe it’s more important to move around in those conditions. Now if you were really just sticking to gravel roads it might be closer to road conditions. You guys are basically riding it as a mountain bike from what I can see. Cool that it handles it!
You ran american classsic tire on the front. Wanted to mention ive been running their "Lamplighter' tire in 650b and they're amazing. Thx for the video Roscoe
The was fun to watch! :)
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Appreciate you Dana!