How to Use a One Piece Tongue and Groove Bit
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2011
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George Vondriska provides instruction on how to setup a router table to use a one piece tongue and groove bit. A WoodWorkers Guild of America (WWGOA) original video.
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Very useful information! Thanks for the post. I love it when a skilled craftsman teaches with straightforward and concise instructions. 👍
Thank you! It's been so long since I used the bit, I forgot how it works! All set now, thanks a lot.
Thank you so much . I do really appreciate your tutorials. It really helps me. Regards from Iran .
Nice video. I have never done any woodworking. I am looking at starting a nice project this winter. You're video will help me. Inspiring as well. Thanks.
Great video. It seems so obvious now that I watched, prior to that I was just staring at it in the case and scratching my head.
Great video. I did not do well with the two bit process. Looks like your way is super easy. Your video was very well done. I have that bit I'll try it this afternoon.
Thanks, Barry
This is the easiest way but you router table for precision, thanks for the video.
You're welcome!
This guy is good and very helpful.
Good news for a wannabe novice. Thank you George for these tips.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Yours was the second video that i watched. Loved it.
Very cool video straight to the point very helpful thanks
Excellent video
Excellent...
Great video
Thank you, Ill try that.
Another question. When making cabinet doors, how big of a gap between them at the center do you allow? In this case I’m not putting a (stile?) in the center. Tks.
Another great video by George.
What brand bit is it? part # etc.
Thanks
If I were using a two piece set that allows adjusting the dimensions of the tongue and groove, I’d do the groove first, then make the tongue to fit. With a one piece bit it can be done either way. Tongue and groove joints are common for bread board edges and doors. More work than is necessary for an edge to edge glue up.
Would it be a good idea to make the tongue slightly shorter than the groove? This way there would be a slight gap between the tongue edge and the bottom of the groove.
i like that router table. where can i get one? thats pretty handy
wow can I get a second hand one to use at home. I'm from Zambia
THANK YOU!!
As obvious as that was, I was scratching my head...lol
How would you did that you did with a 10' board? Don't see a way to use table with a 10' piece. Hand router?
George I ordered a set of bits from amazon and after watching this video,,the door I was making turned out really good,,,,first time I ever did it and it took me awhile,,lol,,and watching your video a couple of times I got it,,may I ask what router table and router you are using,,,
Thanks for your feedback. George built a base for his router table and purchased thetop: amzn.to/2slMBaZ. His router lift, which is the important mechanism that you need to makeadjustments above the table, is an older version of this: amzn.to/2vfh3G0.
In terms of routers, George uses a bunch of different ones: Porter Cable, Bosch, Hitachi and Dewalt are good router brands to consider.
Hi , As a new comer what is your wood thickness , as if it was to thick the cutter would be to thin , Am i rite ? Please advise
Just got on and I have never made a cabinet door shaker style. Just one question: The 1/4” tonge should feet well in the grove made by the same tool when assembling the frames, however, my plywood for the panels is .205. Wouldnt the fit of panel to frame be too loose? Im just starting to work with these fine cutting tools. Thank you for the answer.
Hi Carlos,
I prefer to find full 1/4" panels which are normally MDF core. If you are using thinner material and you are not comfortable with the amount of gap, you could mill the grooves in the door rails and stiles using a single table saw blade and making two overlapping passes so that the size works perfectly with your material. Just experiment with some scrap until you get the fence positioned correctly, then run all of your pieces.
Hope this helps,
Paul
Woodworkers Guild of America Video Membership
George, I found a nominal 1/4” birtch panel with an MDF core, however, the caliper shows it to be 0.203. that makes it about .047" difference or about .026” per side. Are these the dimentions you are gettin from your 1/4” panel with MDF core? If this is the case, am I worried too much about the space?
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can this work with a plunge router setup on a track, like the festool routers on mft tables and tracks.
Hi Danny. I have never tried this. In theory it should be possible, but my preference would be to do this on a router table. Paul
funny, i would've cut the groove first. question: what would be the proper application for toungue and groove joints? it would seem like it would make great joints. but since i never see anyone use it for that, i imagine there must be a reason why its not ideal. i.e. expansion and so on. oh well, was alway curious why toungue and groove wasn't used much on glue ups.
is that a 1/4" bit or 1/2" as I am unsure which size I need to purchase - could you tell me which size would be best for what sort of job please?
Go with a 1/2 inch shank in a router table
How much extra length for the tongue?
Great video. What brand of router bit are you using? Love to get one like it.
Looks like a Whiteside 3375.
What router table is that?
Please tell me who makes the bit. I did a google search for a one piece tongue and groove bit but it didn't come up.
+kim massa
There are several bits at Amazon site. Type in All in one tongue & Groove router bits. I am sure you have an answer, b ut just in case.
Damn I’m trying to figure out how to set the height for tongue and groove bits on wood.
"Working with 3⁄4″ stock, that plays out to a 1⁄4″-thick by 1⁄4″-long tongue, and a matching groove."
I was unable to ask about these comments at the site where I saw them. If I had been able to , I would have said, "But what size one piece tongue and grove router bit should I buy to do this"? Incidentally, to avoid any misunderstanding, I want to join two 8'x1"x4" pine boards at their edges.
Here is a one piece bit that is designed to work with 3/4" stock: www.rockler.com/rockler-tongue-and-groove-router-bit-3-8-cutter-width-x-1-4-cutter-height-1-2-shank Paul-Woodworkers Guild of America
@@Wwgoa you link goes nowhere. It’s dead.
wont that wear out the top cutter more quickly than the bottom? Curious as to what the benefit of this is?
Irvin McLaughlin exactly my thought. Eventually the top will dull while the bottom will be sharper and end grain cut will be off.
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You've got to be crazy gotta have a real need
@bud1412 It is Whiteside #3375. Happy Woodworking!
I'm new to routers. The lower blade is marking my wood face when I cut the groove. I'm really upset I can't get this working right.
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It sounds like the bit is positioned too high, and you'll have to lower it. If your wood is more than 3/4" thick, you won't be able to center the groove.
Paul
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Which router table was that
Hello I have sent your question to our expert. We will get a response to you soon. #44770
George built a base for his router table and purchased the top: amzn.to/2slMBaZ. He uses this fence on the router table: amzn.to/2rjc6tr. His router lift, which is the important mechanism that you need to make adjustments above the table, is an older version of this: amzn.to/2vfh3G0.
Paul
I really wish you would have shown how to set the tongue height you only showed how to set the groove. Great video though.
Ok but, which bit did you use?
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where can I get a router table like that? Boy Santa Claus is really going to get a lot of e-mail requests from me
Hi,
George built a base for his router table and purchased the top: amzn.to/2slMBaZ. His router lift, which is the important mechanism that you need to make adjustments above the table, is an older version of this: amzn.to/2vfh3G0.
Hope this helps,
Paul
WoodWorkers Guild of America Video Membership
Nice show, but it doesn't help if you don't tell your audience how or where they can get that special bit.
Google
i got one at Lowes
I just got one in Menrds for $46.00 CMT Oragne Tools
Bosch makes that bit. You can purchase at lowes about 50 dollars
I'm not being funny but I don't think that router was unplugged! Just above to the right.
+daniel ellis Look at 1:58 and see him unplug it...
I was looking for anime music video xddd
Howwwww
exc ellent
your router was not unplugged.
+David Brown Look at 1:58 and see him unplug it...
I did it with the help of Stodoys plans.
You can use Stodoys and plans. The best plans and very detailed instructions. You can learn a lot from them and do it yourself.