I polish my frets ever time i change strings, i also condition my fretboard and wipe down the body, back of neck, and headstock. I love that super clean brand new look. U asked who does that, im that guy. 😁🤣😆
I’m a bass player. I don’t know where to buy strings. I tune my bass once a week, if it needs it. I’d need to use my e string to tow something before it would break.
Not me…….a want a beat up, worn out guitar neck. I want the buildup from hand oil, dead skin cells, fingernail grime, spilled beer, and smoke residue all over that neck and fretboard. Then once it actually starts wearing down and eating away the finish, and theres visible funk stuck against corners of the frets; then i’ll finally clean it off and clean it up to show off the worn areas
Didn’t know they reissued this recently! I used to own a Sovtek MIG 50 and now own a MIG 100. Love these amps to death. I kinda simultaneously got a bonus at work sooooo buying an EHX MIG 50 was a no brainer! Receiving it tomorrow!
@@TheSwearwolf it’s a pedal and i don’t agree that most early EHX stuff is shoddy or unreliable. you won’t find much gear from the early 70s that still works flawlessly without some kind of servicing.
I missed the live stream by like 5 months. Still played the intro and didn’t skip. You youtubers were a life saver during the worst months of the pandemic. A lot of us didn’t have anything to look forward to other than perusing our hobbies a little more and consuming entertainment.
I think the “clipping” problem you’re having is probably a buffer underrun issue on your audio interface, since it’s not so much a distortion as a stuttering. There’s probably a dropdown menu that lets you choose how many samples of latency you want. Try increasing that to the next level up. Like maybe you’re on 256 and you can go up to 512. That should be a very tiny amount of added delay in terms of milliseconds and you likely won’t notice it, but it might solve your issue. It could theoretically also be a computer not keeping up with the data it’s being sent, like if the processor throttles down to save power or if it’s getting too hot. Or maybe it is indeed the streaming software, but at least on your end you can try increasing the buffer and seeing if that fixes it and making sure any computers involved are always operating up to speed.
When you talk about NYC mob history - it's not the east river but the Gowanus Canal that takes the cake. Fun fact: before it was polluted, the Gowanus Canal was a major source of oysters and other shellfish (there is also a current project to bring oysters back to the canal to help clean up the pollution).
Josh your hair game was on point this episode, there was a perfect Hawaiian wave curl. I went straight to the beach after watching the episode and it was dark. The amp was OK to
They do sound pretty close to the Marshall SV20 plexi-type amps too. But a tad thicker in the bass and mids and less aggressive on top. Depending on what you want, I think they're more versatile than the Marshall.
I feel like I prefer the newer one as it's got more bass to it, and I personally like a deeper bass-y sound. I tend to play somewhere between big Stoner Sludge type riffs, Post Rock, and loud Indie Rock (depending on what I'm working on), so that suits me.
Dude... the number of drummers I've burnt through in this life. Currently, I'd give both my nuts for a good drummer with groove who knows how to fill, transition, when to push and pull the feel, (etc.) who isn't crazy, and who actually consistently shows up to writing/practice sessions. Seriously. That, apparently, is too much to ask!
Ed Pennypacker (Designer of the 60) used to run sound for a few small venues in town where I live. I showed up to a gig with a 60 one night and he was excited to see one still being used live. It was probably around 2009. Super nice guy. REALLY wish I still had both my 50 and 60.
Actually, the 59 tweed bassman had both a mids and presence knob, the later brown panel removed the mids and the black panel removed the presence. Cheers.
I have polished numerous fretboards for people now. Addison is right, you tape off the entire fretboard first. At that point I start with 1500 grit sandpaper and go up in grits from (1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 5000, 7000) finish off with music nomad fret polish and bam. It not only shines them up like crazy but it gives them an incredibly smooth feel when you play! Definitely recommend it!
I've got both the East River Drive and the LPB-1 which are almost always hooked up to my rigs; they are a fantastic combo. I've traditionally used the Tubescreamer live, but in my studio environment I prefer the Electro Harmonix East River drive due to it having a silkier top end.
Audio nerd here: The “clipping issue” isn’t actually clipping, it’s a clock mis-match/losing timing between devices. Simple fix if you know what to look for. Drop me a line if you need help. Cheers!
I jumper my sovteks and have since the earliest models. I have been a semi professional since the earliest indies and have only used migs. This one is my baby.
Always did this with mine as well. I have channel 1 set at around 9-10 o' clock, channel 2 set at 11 or 12 o' clock depending on the guitar and how spanky I want it to get. It can be fun with certain pedal that have separate dry / wet outputs too, you choose if both channels are affected or not I agree that channel 1 gets muddy, but channel 2 gets harsh and hollow. The two blended just right is where it's at IMO This being said, I'm not sure the new reissue also works with both inputs at once! Haven't played it
@@officedurapquebecois you can y jump the new mig…I emailed ehx a while back for the info…I want this amp but I sort of feel that I have the range covered with my krank Chadwick..still sounds killer
The speakers in the two combos are SURELY making a huge difference in how they sound (brand, style/model and SIZE! 12" vs 10"). The character of the amps doesn't seem too far off from one another.
I got a nice lightly used EHX Mig 50 a few months ago for $300 ( I have the BOX!!!) , but mine has a RED jewel light on the front. When did they start using BLUE?! I run it through a Marshall 2x12 that looks just like the EHX 2x12 except it has better power handling.
I love my NEW Dirt Road Special. It’s in the living room, right next to my stereo. It’s my “go to” amp for playing whilst I’m sitting on the couch, plinking along to my records. I could leave it turned “on” for weeks on end: I use it that often. I Only wish they would’ve made the FX a tremolo AND JUST a spring reverb. I never use the “other two” reverb options on mine. Or they could’ve just made it an FX loop. BTW, the new one: you can always roll your tone pot down. You can’t do anything about the old one: it’s dark and it’s always going to be dark. I did a very short tour (as drummer) with a reunited Indiana punk band from the late 1970’s and the guitarist brought his old Dirt Road (the amp he recorded their old records on & played all the original shows with) - It was a piece of history, but it gave us all nothing but grief. It didn’t make the same sound on the same two nights, ever. I think the local amp fixer in Indianapolis had him on his “frequent flyer program” - that amp had so many problems so often… And, wouldn’t you know: 6 months after the tour ended EH announced they were coming out with a NEW version of the Dirt Road. Another thing: analog synths sound awesome through the new Dirt Road. I plug my MiniBrute & MicroBrute through mine, exclusively. The speaker EH chose to use on the newer Dirt Road is a real “secret weapon” of its tone. It is NOT your typical “guitar amp/greenback style” transducer. I need to try out the cab of the amp with my other 20 watt heads.
I like the EHX badge better than the Sovtek. Am I alone with that nonsense? Pre-ordered one today. Currently backordered probably because of this video. Thanks for the comparison though!
The old Mike Matthews amp sounds JUST like AC/DC's "It's a Long Way to the Top." Like....JUST like it. 🤔 I'm thinking the biggest difference comes down to speakers. Apparently the old ones had blackback Celestions. I'd love to hear the new one into a good 4x12.
Ik im 2 years late but yall are GLOWING in this vod like josh you normally look tired as hell and depressed as shit. And I was mesmerized by joshua’s eyes. lol
Bro, that dirt road special sounds absolutely phenomenal. Both of them really. I too like the new one--I think im going to buy my first ever solid state amp.
I don't even use pedals and I find your show interesting and entertaining. I can't say life changing but perhaps life altering to some small degree. It is kind of like watching your favorite car rust with an occasional musical interlude. Maybe it is my Alzheimer's and dementia that make the show better. kidding love every minute.
Was hoping to hear the soul food into the mig 50! Love that pedal! I have a Mig 50 on its way to me right now...was hard to come by in the UK but I finally found a dealer. This has to be the best value amp out there right now?!! Couldn't believe the price. I hope they put out some more amps.
Hi guys. In the pick of destiny Ben Stiller works at guitar center and informs gas and jabbles about the pick of destiny and how to find it, but first he mentions the Ernie Ball Amp Caster! A caster wheel. Not sure if I’m first but there ya go.
I love this amp... I just so wish it had an effects loop. Why EHX, why??? I know that would take it away from the original, but I don't think too many people would have complained about that.
@@sixthview before 4/10 there is almost no breakup with a loud sound. I mean, there is really no need for a fx loop, from my point of view anyway. A chance there a lot of amps to chose from.
I‘m glad they didn‘t put a stinking FX loop in there. No need for it in a non master volume amp anyway. FX loops just ruin the sound and are prone to hassle and failure in the long run…
Because much of the distortion happens in the power amp here, an effects loop would be feeding a mostly clean signal to your, say, delay pedals, then distorting the sound that came out of your delay pedal. It would be the same ultimate result as plugging the effects into the input. If you wanted to put the delay after the distortion, you'd have to somehow put the effects loop after the power amp, meaning you'd be sending a fifty-watt wave through pedals designed to operate in millivolts, then trying to move speakers with the output of the pedals. tl;dr an effects loop in this amp wouldn't have any benefits over plugging pedals into the input.
I worked part time at a music store(for the discount!!!) in the late 90's when sovtek amps first hit the floor. Played the several models available and left with the Mig 50H! Played without hiccup for years. Wound up buying a second a few year back. Love those things!
That audio glitch thing sounds like what happens when I set the latency too low on my audio interface. It's just weird that it's intermittent, so I wonder if it's the computer getting bogged down with background processes and it can't handle the latency setting while that's occurring. (source: I'm a computer tech as well as audio nerd).
This is what used to happen to me when I was a broke kid using a Traktor DJ interface as an audio interface lol. It stopped when I got a better interface so I’m assuming that was the issue.
How is it EHX always sounds different when all they had to do was put in a different package. I know the amps here are horrible example of that but like why can they not shrink down a Qtron properly, without sounding different.
just ordered mine today.i didn't even know these were being made till today. it was the easiest decision i have had to make all year.now i gotta wait for 3 weeks.
People say speaker break in isn't a thing, I agree as your speaker will break it's self in with hours used. However, in the same thread, several hours of break in to reduce brightness on a speaker cant replace years of use, Smokey bars and riding in the back of a pickup.
Please correct me if I am mistaken EXH & Sovtek are and were under the same owner. Thus, I would presume the use the same parts. I will certainly get the EHX one and also certainly put a Sovtek budge on it.
Got my Mig-100 in 1998 for $200 bucks. I've been wanting one of the new EH 50's. If I were going to dump stupid money I'd try to get one of the orange face Mig-30's just for collection sake.
Just bought a new mig 50 mkll and I like the fact that you can put any tubes including el34's, 6l6, 5881 and all you have to do is set the bias. I didn't know this until I bought it.
Not gonna lie, that price is very good (MIG 50). They sound how the old Sound City amps (I mean 70's/80's ones) kinda sound (and obviously ultra close to the old Sovtek)
For the money, IMO, the Marshall 9005 is hard to beat. They are heavy, because you are getting TWO "Made in England" Marshall 50watt EL34 amps with 1/2 power switches in a 4 space rack case. Granted you need a preamp to hook up in front of it but there are plenty of preamps and preamp pedals out. Or just get a Marshall tube preamp to get a great Marshall sound. I have 2 of the 9005's and got them off ebay for 300 each. Also have the Marshall 9001 tube preamp that goes with this amp. Payed 150 for the 9001. So for 450 I have two 50W made in England Marshall tube amps. FYI, Tony Iommi used this preamp/amp pair in his live rig for awhile.
I wonder if EHX is still printing "Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby." on the circuit board as they did with the first run of the new Mig 50's?
Have y’all tried active pickups into channel 1? It’s more Amateur sorcery than magical, but, if you have a bit of time to mess around and a few enjoyable dirt pedals you’ll probably find some rather nice tones that’ll you’ll never use!
The amps are not the same. Voicing is 100% same that’s why you can easily loose in a blind test. The sound itself is clearer and more compressed in a Sovtek amp. Big muff in the end proves my words: as Josh started playing newer ehx amp it fell apart. Timber is same, but old one is cleaner, more defined, compressed so is more balanced after all. Maybe it’s because of the modded caps/pots. Who nows. P.S. I’m a professional sound engineer but I also play guitar. Thanks for the video.
I am fortunate enough to own a working Sovtek Big Muff, which is still on my board. It was the second pedal I ever bought; I heard that the Smashing Pumpkins used them, and I wanted that sound. Obviously, I was disappointed when it didn’t sound like the Punpkins, and it sat in the box, and later in the closet… until about 20 years later, when I got into David Gilmour tone building (he used a “Civil War” Muff during the “Pulse” era, but all the Sovtek Muffs have very similar sound; unless you’re a Big Muff aficionado, it can be hard to tell the difference). My 3 gripes: 1) it takes up a lot of board real estate; 2) it’s 9v battery only, unless you mod it or use an adapter, like I do; 3) I don’t have the box, and it was the cool wooden box.
I saw Larry McCray open for Gov't Mule in the late 90s at the 5 pts. Music Hall in Birmingham & he was using a Sovtek MIG 50. Talk about rip your head off tone & a killer player!!! I kick myself for not buying one off ebay in the 90s. BTW RIP Allen Woody! The Mule was never quite the same. Btw Josh when did you lose your Alabama accent. As a NE Alabama, Etowah County man I'd like to know & it's kinda sad at the same time.
Yup! He specifically went through a Randall RG80 circa 1980: an all solid-state amp with an actual spring reverb tank. I have one myself and it doesn’t fail at all ✌🏻
I don't know the name of the song, but the refrain goes: " 'Cause I love that dirty water. Awww! New York, You're my home!" Maybe that's why they named that pedal that way.
I wonder if it's impractical to mod these to add an FX loop. They sound great, but it's a definite limitation, especially when limited control of volume/gain. Something like a Vox AC30CH is a much more flexible amp, with the FX loop, reverb, tremelo, built-in attenuation, top boost.
I think the more important comparison is between the new MIG-50 and a new Hotrod Deluxe. If we're talking 2x6L6 amps that are affordable, reliable, gig-able, and great pedal platforms, it's really up against the HR. And when you can get a HR for $300 used (everyday) and you don't need to buy a cab, that's pretty tough to beat.
I'm betting the Mig doesn't have the issues that the HRs have. Check out psionic audio to hear a reliable tech bitch about the crappy decisions Fender makes for their customers.
I have a stock ported Sovtek slanted 1x12 that has a stock 16 ohm Eminence speaker that is their version of a Greenback. I also have an 8 ohm ported Sovtek cab with the same sort of speaker.
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Recently purchased a Ehx Mig-50. Best decision I’ve made in years thank you for supporting that.
You're welcome.
I'm watching this ten hours after it streamed and, still, I did not skip the pre-intro. That is some spectacular fluting.
Waiting for the JHS team to put together a Jethro Tull jam.
@@richardf.8412 I never thought of that I remember it next time. I have a house for kids and I work nights I want to download this track to sleep by
Can’t confirm but I heard that Ron Burgundy actually recorded that for them. Wild stuff.
I love the intro. My son says I am a moron for watching it, but it is the most peaceful part of my day
"Flauting".
I polish my frets ever time i change strings, i also condition my fretboard and wipe down the body, back of neck, and headstock. I love that super clean brand new look. U asked who does that, im that guy. 😁🤣😆
Lol, nice!
I agree. I'm rather OCD about the back of the neck and forearm area of the body. And I do a ritualistic string change process we shan't discuss here.
# me too
I’m a bass player. I don’t know where to buy strings. I tune my bass once a week, if it needs it. I’d need to use my e string to tow something before it would break.
Not me…….a want a beat up, worn out guitar neck. I want the buildup from hand oil, dead skin cells, fingernail grime, spilled beer, and smoke residue all over that neck and fretboard. Then once it actually starts wearing down and eating away the finish, and theres visible funk stuck against corners of the frets; then i’ll finally clean it off and clean it up to show off the worn areas
Didn’t know they reissued this recently! I used to own a Sovtek MIG 50 and now own a MIG 100. Love these amps to death. I kinda simultaneously got a bonus at work sooooo buying an EHX MIG 50 was a no brainer! Receiving it tomorrow!
So how is it? I have an old mig 50. Might need a new one though. Do they "feel" the same?
“I’m not gonna play them because they’re all broken.” -speaks volumes. It totally applies most early EHX stuff too.
my 1974 black finger works great and is nearly 50 years old
Wonder if they could find someone to fix them?
@@shayeasy Sure, and for every amp like yours there's 500 in a landfill somewhere next to E.T. cartridges.
@@TheSwearwolf it’s a pedal and i don’t agree that most early EHX stuff is shoddy or unreliable. you won’t find much gear from the early 70s that still works flawlessly without some kind of servicing.
My JPN Boss DD-3 died after 32 years of near constant use/abuse.
I missed the live stream by like 5 months. Still played the intro and didn’t skip.
You youtubers were a life saver during the worst months of the pandemic. A lot of us didn’t have anything to look forward to other than perusing our hobbies a little more and consuming entertainment.
I think the “clipping” problem you’re having is probably a buffer underrun issue on your audio interface, since it’s not so much a distortion as a stuttering. There’s probably a dropdown menu that lets you choose how many samples of latency you want. Try increasing that to the next level up. Like maybe you’re on 256 and you can go up to 512. That should be a very tiny amount of added delay in terms of milliseconds and you likely won’t notice it, but it might solve your issue.
It could theoretically also be a computer not keeping up with the data it’s being sent, like if the processor throttles down to save power or if it’s getting too hot. Or maybe it is indeed the streaming software, but at least on your end you can try increasing the buffer and seeing if that fixes it and making sure any computers involved are always operating up to speed.
When you talk about NYC mob history - it's not the east river but the Gowanus Canal that takes the cake. Fun fact: before it was polluted, the Gowanus Canal was a major source of oysters and other shellfish (there is also a current project to bring oysters back to the canal to help clean up the pollution).
Great show from the past that I watched because I’m considering getting an EHX Mig-50 and 2x12.
Terrific guitar work by Josh!
Josh your hair game was on point this episode, there was a perfect Hawaiian wave curl. I went straight to the beach after watching the episode and it was dark. The amp was OK to
it's actually absurd how similar the old and reissue MIG50s sound.
They do sound pretty close to the Marshall SV20 plexi-type amps too. But a tad thicker in the bass and mids and less aggressive on top. Depending on what you want, I think they're more versatile than the Marshall.
The real secret to their tone is when using pedals! That's when they really shine!@@compucorder64
I feel like I prefer the newer one as it's got more bass to it, and I personally like a deeper bass-y sound. I tend to play somewhere between big Stoner Sludge type riffs, Post Rock, and loud Indie Rock (depending on what I'm working on), so that suits me.
The OG dirt road special amp has so many classic sounds in it. I cant believe I've just heard of it.
Nick's a drummer. Of course he's got a million bands 😆
Dude... the number of drummers I've burnt through in this life. Currently, I'd give both my nuts for a good drummer with groove who knows how to fill, transition, when to push and pull the feel, (etc.) who isn't crazy, and who actually consistently shows up to writing/practice sessions. Seriously. That, apparently, is too much to ask!
@@alphanumeric1529 lol I'm a drummer and looking for all of that in all the other positions in a band
Ed Pennypacker (Designer of the 60) used to run sound for a few small venues in town where I live. I showed up to a gig with a 60 one night and he was excited to see one still being used live. It was probably around 2009. Super nice guy. REALLY wish I still had both my 50 and 60.
I have found that the real character of the reissue (sotospeak) is at higher volumes. It has an AC30ish chime and growl. Dig it. Well done EH!
Cathode bypass caps on V1A and V1B for the inputs are vastly different. 220u for channel 1 and 0.68 for channel 2. Plus a bright cap on channel 2.
The mic placement on the newer Dirt Road is completely different.
Actually, the 59 tweed bassman had both a mids and presence knob, the later brown panel removed the mids and the black panel removed the presence. Cheers.
I have polished numerous fretboards for people now. Addison is right, you tape off the entire fretboard first. At that point I start with 1500 grit sandpaper and go up in grits from (1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 5000, 7000) finish off with music nomad fret polish and bam. It not only shines them up like crazy but it gives them an incredibly smooth feel when you play! Definitely recommend it!
yes the SOVTEK episode!!!, i own a mig 100 and i really really love that thing, its a beast and takes pedals very well
Those heads sound identical. Those combos sound different but I would chalk that up to the speaker. If it sounds good it is good! Great video!
I've got both the East River Drive and the LPB-1 which are almost always hooked up to my rigs; they are a fantastic combo. I've traditionally used the Tubescreamer live, but in my studio environment I prefer the Electro Harmonix East River drive due to it having a silkier top end.
That old combo sounds very QOTSA indeed. A big punch in the belly.
I've had a Mig 50 for 22 years , rock solid. PS it came stock with 5881's , I've updated mine to 6L6's with a bit more juice.
Audio nerd here: The “clipping issue” isn’t actually clipping, it’s a clock mis-match/losing timing between devices. Simple fix if you know what to look for. Drop me a line if you need help. Cheers!
Rigs of Doom has been selling replacement Sovtek badges for years. They look great
Joshua has such a pleasant voice
Thank you
The new EHX combo sounds perfect for the Law and Order theme song
After 33:23 where you go to the old Mig, have you ever used a Y cable into both inputs and use the channel volumes to balance/blend the tones?
I jumper my sovteks and have since the earliest models. I have been a semi professional since the earliest indies and have only used migs. This one is my baby.
Always did this with mine as well. I have channel 1 set at around 9-10 o' clock, channel 2 set at 11 or 12 o' clock depending on the guitar and how spanky I want it to get.
It can be fun with certain pedal that have separate dry / wet outputs too, you choose if both channels are affected or not
I agree that channel 1 gets muddy, but channel 2 gets harsh and hollow. The two blended just right is where it's at IMO
This being said, I'm not sure the new reissue also works with both inputs at once! Haven't played it
@@officedurapquebecois you can y jump the new mig…I emailed ehx a while back for the info…I want this amp but I sort of feel that I have the range covered with my krank Chadwick..still sounds killer
The speakers in the two combos are SURELY making a huge difference in how they sound (brand, style/model and SIZE! 12" vs 10"). The character of the amps doesn't seem too far off from one another.
I got a nice lightly used EHX Mig 50 a few months ago for $300 ( I have the BOX!!!) , but mine has a RED jewel light on the front. When did they start using BLUE?! I run it through a Marshall 2x12 that looks just like the EHX 2x12 except it has better power handling.
Red Jewels are production runs, but 18 hand built units have a blue light
I love my NEW Dirt Road Special. It’s in the living room, right next to my stereo. It’s my “go to” amp for playing whilst I’m sitting on the couch, plinking along to my records. I could leave it turned “on” for weeks on end: I use it that often. I Only wish they would’ve made the FX a tremolo AND JUST a spring reverb. I never use the “other two” reverb options on mine. Or they could’ve just made it an FX loop.
BTW, the new one: you can always roll your tone pot down. You can’t do anything about the old one: it’s dark and it’s always going to be dark. I did a very short tour (as drummer) with a reunited Indiana punk band from the late 1970’s and the guitarist brought his old Dirt Road (the amp he recorded their old records on & played all the original shows with) - It was a piece of history, but it gave us all nothing but grief. It didn’t make the same sound on the same two nights, ever. I think the local amp fixer in Indianapolis had him on his “frequent flyer program” - that amp had so many problems so often… And, wouldn’t you know: 6 months after the tour ended EH announced they were coming out with a NEW version of the Dirt Road.
Another thing: analog synths sound awesome through the new Dirt Road. I plug my MiniBrute & MicroBrute through mine, exclusively. The speaker EH chose to use on the newer Dirt Road is a real “secret weapon” of its tone. It is NOT your typical “guitar amp/greenback style” transducer. I need to try out the cab of the amp with my other 20 watt heads.
Have you tried the reverse reverb turned down it becomes slap back delay which is really useable.
I like the EHX badge better than the Sovtek. Am I alone with that nonsense? Pre-ordered one today. Currently backordered probably because of this video. Thanks for the comparison though!
The old Mike Matthews amp sounds JUST like AC/DC's "It's a Long Way to the Top." Like....JUST like it. 🤔
I'm thinking the biggest difference comes down to speakers. Apparently the old ones had blackback Celestions. I'd love to hear the new one into a good 4x12.
It sounds great through a 4x10 cabinet. Also with whatever pedals you want to color the amp's tone.
@@nicholsonfile what 4x10 did you use?
@@middle_pickup My Peavey Classic 50 combo haha. Also, I upgraded the speaker on the Dirt Road to a 150 watt speaker, so it sounds good anyway.
FYI. - Mig shootout actually starts at 33:20
Thanks again Josh!! Now the mig 50s jumped 200$
I know it’s crazy but we want beautiful demos like yours …
still having my Sovtek Mig 60!! Pure raw power.
Ik im 2 years late but yall are GLOWING in this vod like josh you normally look tired as hell and depressed as shit. And I was mesmerized by joshua’s eyes. lol
Could it be that the combos sound so different only due to the different speakers? ...Would somewhat explain the very similar sound of the heads.
I dig that you used Jobim's music to accompany the "please be seated" opener.
I’m not a huge fan of either amp on their own, but they sounded great in the mix. New one took the pedals very well.
Bro, that dirt road special sounds absolutely phenomenal. Both of them really. I too like the new one--I think im going to buy my first ever solid state amp.
Watching this video for the second time. I would love to hear the new amp through the old speaker.
I don't even use pedals and I find your show interesting and entertaining. I can't say life changing but perhaps life altering to some small degree. It is kind of like watching your favorite car rust with an occasional musical interlude. Maybe it is my Alzheimer's and dementia that make the show better. kidding love every minute.
I'm a musician and a pedal nerd and I watch the show with my GF, she loves it and sings along to the jingles
@@TMmodify Get a ring on that.
@@grantandrews4826 I got a ring modulator on her, close enough I guess
Thanks so much! Glad you like it :)
Was hoping to hear the soul food into the mig 50! Love that pedal!
I have a Mig 50 on its way to me right now...was hard to come by in the UK but I finally found a dealer. This has to be the best value amp out there right now?!!
Couldn't believe the price. I hope they put out some more amps.
Hi guys. In the pick of destiny Ben Stiller works at guitar center and informs gas and jabbles about the pick of destiny and how to find it, but first he mentions the Ernie Ball Amp Caster! A caster wheel. Not sure if I’m first but there ya go.
I love this amp... I just so wish it had an effects loop. Why EHX, why??? I know that would take it away from the original, but I don't think too many people would have complained about that.
But what for, as the amp is clean only ?
@@AgravepasmonK this is far from a clean only amp.
@@sixthview before 4/10 there is almost no breakup with a loud sound.
I mean, there is really no need for a fx loop, from my point of view anyway.
A chance there a lot of amps to chose from.
I‘m glad they didn‘t put a stinking FX loop in there. No need for it in a non master volume amp anyway. FX loops just ruin the sound and are prone to hassle and failure in the long run…
Because much of the distortion happens in the power amp here, an effects loop would be feeding a mostly clean signal to your, say, delay pedals, then distorting the sound that came out of your delay pedal. It would be the same ultimate result as plugging the effects into the input. If you wanted to put the delay after the distortion, you'd have to somehow put the effects loop after the power amp, meaning you'd be sending a fifty-watt wave through pedals designed to operate in millivolts, then trying to move speakers with the output of the pedals.
tl;dr an effects loop in this amp wouldn't have any benefits over plugging pedals into the input.
EHX is the brand where I just looked down one day and they were like 2/3 of my board.
I was really hoping a Tube Midget 50H would have also been included. For my own selfish reasons.
Ay. My man Heath has his morals in check. Vote Heath, always lookin out for the little guy!
I worked part time at a music store(for the discount!!!) in the late 90's when sovtek amps first hit the floor. Played the several models available and left with the Mig 50H! Played without hiccup for years. Wound up buying a second a few year back. Love those things!
Ben Stiller was the guitar store employee that explains the legend of the POD if I recall
...in the maintenance closet for secrecy while sporting a handlebar mustache. Also feels Similar to his character in dodgeball
Can you do an episode on how to build a solid state amp? Or breaking down schematics? It’s so cool
In Russian, Soviet is actually pronounced Sahvyet so' SahvTech' is the right way to say Sovtek. So you were saying it right the whole time!
That audio glitch thing sounds like what happens when I set the latency too low on my audio interface. It's just weird that it's intermittent, so I wonder if it's the computer getting bogged down with background processes and it can't handle the latency setting while that's occurring. (source: I'm a computer tech as well as audio nerd).
This is what used to happen to me when I was a broke kid using a Traktor DJ interface as an audio interface lol. It stopped when I got a better interface so I’m assuming that was the issue.
How is it EHX always sounds different when all they had to do was put in a different package. I know the amps here are horrible example of that but like why can they not shrink down a Qtron properly, without sounding different.
Miss my old mig, one my favorite amps Ive ever owned
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just ordered mine today.i didn't even know these were being made till today. it was the easiest decision i have had to make all year.now i gotta wait for 3 weeks.
You like it?
love it..
Just bought a new Mig-50 and I love it. But then I proceded to order a load box/attenuator because it's SO loud haha
only reason i didnt buy it...got offered a new one for $459 on reverb too
I toured the east coast during the 90s w a mig 50, it sounded killer w a boss sd1
That Les Paul sounds absolutely incredible.
People say speaker break in isn't a thing, I agree as your speaker will break it's self in with hours used. However, in the same thread, several hours of break in to reduce brightness on a speaker cant replace years of use, Smokey bars and riding in the back of a pickup.
Please correct me if I am mistaken EXH & Sovtek are and were under the same owner. Thus, I would presume the use the same parts. I will certainly get the EHX one and also certainly put a Sovtek budge on it.
Got my Mig-100 in 1998 for $200 bucks. I've been wanting one of the new EH 50's. If I were going to dump stupid money I'd try to get one of the orange face Mig-30's just for collection sake.
Great video! The Mig 50 reminds me a bit of my reissue Supro Thunderbolt with its sharp bite when breaking up.
It's a Tony Bruno design hot rodded Fender Bassman circuit Homie!
Just bought a new mig 50 mkll and I like the fact that you can put any tubes including el34's, 6l6, 5881 and all you have to do is set the bias. I didn't know this until I bought it.
The doors - summers almost gone, offa waiting for the sun
Not gonna lie, that price is very good (MIG 50). They sound how the old Sound City amps (I mean 70's/80's ones) kinda sound (and obviously ultra close to the old Sovtek)
For the money, IMO, the Marshall 9005 is hard to beat. They are heavy, because you are getting TWO "Made in England" Marshall 50watt EL34 amps with 1/2 power switches in a 4 space rack case. Granted you need a preamp to hook up in front of it but there are plenty of preamps and preamp pedals out. Or just get a Marshall tube preamp to get a great Marshall sound.
I have 2 of the 9005's and got them off ebay for 300 each. Also have the Marshall 9001 tube preamp that goes with this amp. Payed 150 for the 9001. So for 450 I have two 50W made in England Marshall tube amps.
FYI, Tony Iommi used this preamp/amp pair in his live rig for awhile.
On my Mig50h, (master volume version) - input 1 was low gain, and input 2 was high gain. No tonal differences.
My main amp is a first run Mig 50 and I love that thing.
Old Dirt Road has the classic “snotty” small amp sound.
That jam around 48 mins was smokin!
I wonder if EHX is still printing "Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby." on the circuit board as they did with the first run of the new Mig 50's?
I have a EHX Mig 50...ill have to look
I think it would be really awesome if you shot out a metal zone and a klon. I’ve been looking for a video like that and haven’t found any 🤷♂️
Have y’all tried active pickups into channel 1? It’s more Amateur sorcery than magical, but, if you have a bit of time to mess around and a few enjoyable dirt pedals you’ll probably find some rather nice tones that’ll you’ll never use!
I have used my 88 Charvel/Jackson with the active pickups into both channels...
Would love to see the deep dive episode quoted at 16:00 I'm really interested in the history of EHX, particularly the russian bits.
The amps are not the same. Voicing is 100% same that’s why you can easily loose in a blind test. The sound itself is clearer and more compressed in a Sovtek amp. Big muff in the end proves my words: as Josh started playing newer ehx amp it fell apart. Timber is same, but old one is cleaner, more defined, compressed so is more balanced after all. Maybe it’s because of the modded caps/pots. Who nows.
P.S. I’m a professional sound engineer but I also play guitar. Thanks for the video.
Love the hollow harmonic sounds, kind of like Jessey Davey’s latest guitar tones on his Ad’s….
I'm glad Josh collects all this stuff so I don't have to.
I am fortunate enough to own a working Sovtek Big Muff, which is still on my board. It was the second pedal I ever bought; I heard that the Smashing Pumpkins used them, and I wanted that sound. Obviously, I was disappointed when it didn’t sound like the Punpkins, and it sat in the box, and later in the closet… until about 20 years later, when I got into David Gilmour tone building (he used a “Civil War” Muff during the “Pulse” era, but all the Sovtek Muffs have very similar sound; unless you’re a Big Muff aficionado, it can be hard to tell the difference). My 3 gripes: 1) it takes up a lot of board real estate; 2) it’s 9v battery only, unless you mod it or use an adapter, like I do; 3) I don’t have the box, and it was the cool wooden box.
I have 2 boxes and no russian 😂
I saw Larry McCray open for Gov't Mule in the late 90s at the 5 pts. Music Hall in Birmingham & he was using a Sovtek MIG 50. Talk about rip your head off tone & a killer player!!! I kick myself for not buying one off ebay in the 90s. BTW
RIP Allen Woody! The Mule was never quite the same.
Btw Josh when did you lose your Alabama accent. As a NE Alabama, Etowah County man I'd like to know & it's kinda sad at the same time.
Dimebag played solid state Randalls right? His tone was among the most kickass metal tones ever!
A lot of 90s metal bands played transistor amps. Mushuggah, too, I think.
Yup! He specifically went through a Randall RG80 circa 1980: an all solid-state amp with an actual spring reverb tank. I have one myself and it doesn’t fail at all ✌🏻
Dimebags tone was his own unique thing, but it was not good, generally speaking.
that good ol' "nazi meth-rock" tone
@@TIMExBANDIT good is entirely subjective. I think it fits the music, but I wouldn't want my tone to sound like that.
Honestly, I'm more into the pedal videos, but you guys do have some good banter going on.
Yay! Another live thing! I want that Mig 50 reissue! It sounds great!
I have a EHX Mig 50 and I love love love it!! Worth every penny I paid
@@Gunslinger320 Awesome! I'm just asking myself if I really need a 50 W amp, because it's pretty loud.
This is my new fav channel, you guys are cool.... Love 🏴🎸
Great show! My local shop just got in the new one, stoked!
Civil War, Triangle, and Rams Head for muffs. Shout out to the Blackout Effectors Musket fuzz for a do-it-all muff
the jam around the 49 minute mark was killer. You could call it "Killer 49".
Those of you who know - would the EHX MIG 50 work for surf music? Or is it too much Marshall for clean-ish surf?
6L6 amps generally have punch and twang and El34 are smoother. These 50w amps are 6l6. I would use the combo for surf.
Wonder if EHX will also reissue the other MIG models? I really hope so!
East river drive is actually the fdr for those who don't live in NY. And west river drive or riverside is Horace harding
I like that dark first Imput.
I have just bought a vintage Mig50 and found this video a few days after. Damn, should have gone EHX way, but oh well maybe I will start collecting ;)
I don't know the name of the song, but the refrain goes: " 'Cause I love that dirty water. Awww! New York, You're my home!" Maybe that's why they named that pedal that way.
A dirty river? Yes. Even the most polluted on the eastern seaboard.
But technically Norfolk has more gross tonnage.
MIG buffs and Big Muffs 👻
Nice...
Why is this so funny to me?
@@jhspedals Because it just feels good… and should be a shirt!
I wonder if it's impractical to mod these to add an FX loop. They sound great, but it's a definite limitation, especially when limited control of volume/gain. Something like a Vox AC30CH is a much more flexible amp, with the FX loop, reverb, tremelo, built-in attenuation, top boost.
I think the more important comparison is between the new MIG-50 and a new Hotrod Deluxe. If we're talking 2x6L6 amps that are affordable, reliable, gig-able, and great pedal platforms, it's really up against the HR. And when you can get a HR for $300 used (everyday) and you don't need to buy a cab, that's pretty tough to beat.
I'm betting the Mig doesn't have the issues that the HRs have. Check out psionic audio to hear a reliable tech bitch about the crappy decisions Fender makes for their customers.
On stacking pedals - should a compressor go before or after a Wha? I have the Crybaby at the beginning of the chain.
Over time I found I like my comp before my wah. Best to just experiment.
I have a stock ported Sovtek slanted 1x12 that has a stock 16 ohm Eminence speaker that is their version of a Greenback. I also have an 8 ohm ported Sovtek cab with the same sort of speaker.