My favourite moment of this video is Mick's dumbfounded "what exactly is real world about this?!" - I love how in awe you still are of the world you've built for yourselves, but also how aware you are of how far removed that is from the average person's experience. Also top vid once again chaps, thankyou!
Just want to say thanks for the countless hours I’ve watched you guys for like the last 7 years. Some videos like a dozen times. Thanks for all the hard work!
Dan, I am in total agreement. This is THE BEST tone I’ve ever heard from you. The Bassman is the perfect pairing with your Matchless, a character-filled-clean to compliment the Matchless’ wonderful breakup.
I'd love to see you do a show on 10" speakers. Everyone knows the Super Reverb and Princeton, but honestly I've never been happier than using a 4x10 with 10" Greenbacks. No issues with low end control, lighter and more compact than a 4x12. Underrated!
And the transient response will be faster than 12" speakers too. I love my Lorantz loaded 4 x 10" cab. It's the tone I'd been searching for, for decades.
I love my 2x10" Laney VC30, stock Jensens, paired with another combo loaded with 1x12" (Blues Junior IV - loaded with a Neo Lil Texas, stock AC15C1- Greenback, Laney Cub12R - Vintage 30, any of those 3 as my dry amp) it just works. Something about the midrange of the 10" Jensens goes brilliantly with my favorite 1x12 combos.
10" speakers will always hold a place in my heart. They definitely have a focused, transient forward magic about them. To this day, a 6V6 Fender 5F4 with 10" Alnico speakers is probably the most beautiful sounding amp I have ever heard.
Great show with my favorite circuit amps! These amps are all based on the original 5F6-A Tweed Basssman circuit. I’ve built two amps like these with 6V6 power tubes for lower volume. If you use a 12AY7 in position V1, its a Bassman and has more headroom. With a nice 12AX7, it breaks up earlier. I use the latter as my dry crunchy amp and the first as my wet amp. The combination is glorious!
@@shawnmazzeimusic9549 Take a look at the 5G9 Tweed Tremolux circuit (not the earlier 5E9-A which is more like a Tweed Deluxe)! It's basically a 6L6 18-20 watt Bassman with tremolo! Headroom for days and half the wattage of a 5F6-A! Additionally, a 5F11 Vibrolux or 5F10 Harvard (5F11 minus trem) with a high efficiency speaker will get you there too. They are 10-12 watts and have great clean headroom up to about 4 or 5 then glorious tweed break up after that and very dynamic.
Doesn't most distortion come from the PI tube? Wouldn't a 12AT7 there make more difference? How is a lower gain tube in V1 different than turning the channel volume down if that tube stage doesn't distort either way?
As far as i know, these Bassman-Bassbreakers are designed around the 5F6-A circuit, but with a 12AX7 in V1. The JTM45 Preamp should be very similar to that. Still a pretty big difference in the video though…
What an incredible episode. In my opinion, this is some of the most interesting and most musical playing I've heard from Dan, and by far my favorite tone he's had since I can remember. Possibly the best yet. My favorite TPS moment for a long time has been Mick's playing in the "fall in love with your guitar volume control" segment of a fuzz episode a few years back. His vintage strat into a Hendrix Fuzz Face. Killer sounds. Now this episode is right up there with it as one of my favorite TPS moments.
Life should be played through a JTM45. One of the best sounding amps ever. My old guitar instructor/tech always used a JTM45 he modded a bit to have a tiny bit more headroom, Red tolex just like Dan talked about at the start. Such a lovely sound, with so much warmth, perfect presence and levels of drive. Always wish I could have bought it off him but he loved it even more!!! Great vid as always guys.
WOW.... That is THE SOUND!.... That was kind a mystic experience in the end, wile you was playing through all your equipment. That is THAT sound. Wow ... Thanks a lot! ☀️🌿✨ Take care!
A Magnatone might be a great choice. It has an insane amount of headroom, incredibly clear and articulate, takes pedals perfectly, and has almost a 3D enveloping sound.
The presence control on the real old big tweeds is what makes that compression feel come in. High presence = more compression, low presence = less. It's counterintuitive but it's just a thing. It feels like a totally different amplifier with all other controls left the same from a feel perspective. Thank you Leo!
Wouldn't that depend on how hard the amp section is driven? GNFB "compresses" the high harmonics so Presence down essential compresses the high end along with however much the low end is compressed.
@@GCKelloch High presence = less NFB but as you note NFB is global not just confined to the power section. It's counterintuitive because you'd expect more 'presence' from less NFB = less compression but in real life it FEELS like the notes get bouncy as you remove the anti-phased frequency cancellation of the NFB. Just one of those things. If I had to place a bet on why this happens with old big tweeds but not with a similar circuit like an old JTM45 (even with an NFB resistor and OT tap selection to make the levels of NFB commensurate) I'd attribute it to the output transformer design.
This made me think of the episode (vlog?) about setting Ainsley lister up with some delay. I think Mick has a gift for helping people work through options and figure out what they need. Great job, Mick, and congrats on the amazing sounds, Dan!
That smile at 38:20 said it all. Absolutely brilliant sound. I plan to listen to this again tomorrow, as Dan’s inspired jamming and tone with this new setup is as good as I’ve heard on TPS, or frankly, anywhere. Cheers fellas.
I've done many horrible and abusive things in gigs to a Bassman and just assumed it would be the default winner. until I heard that Sovtek. Very impressed that you did so much work that you changed my mind twice.
What an absolute delight to listen to this video. Inspiring and uplifting sounds. Congratulations Dan for this finding. It is so nice to watchyou guys work together.
There’s something very Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance going on here: the search for “Quality” and that elusive yet necessarily real sound that exists in our heads.
A entirely lovely episode. Informative and fun, fun, fun. These two leg ends know and appreciate each other so well. It’s a joy to behold. Just checked, in the states, Fender ‘59 Bassman LTD 4x10 45 watt Combo is $1999.99 at Sweetwater.
Started watching this video late night Friday. Finished it on Saturday early in the morning because I couldn’t sleep. As it happens, this time of the year it’s my B-day today. Why that matters, well it happens that I get something for myself as well. This time around it was my decision to expand in house speakers and cabinets rig. Despite me ordering on time only yesterday everything was ready for the testing and obligatory breaking in of the speakers. When you design an amplifier, especially a head unit you have to make sure how it works with the different cabinets and you have to be able to demonstrate the difference cabinets and speakers make. At least you have to be able to give good advice how to proceed and what to expect on the volume level used. You can’t in print your taste onto the others and you can’t change the fact that they are going to use what ever cabinet they currently have. So you want to tell them what can they expect or even arrange to come to their rehearsal with your head and help them out. Mostly, what happens is that their cabinet is not at the amps level but the amplifier will sound better in their rig so they will say yeah right get the amplifier and use for longer time their existing cabinet. Then sometimes later some of them will call you and say they have tried really good cabinet and they couldn’t believe how much difference it made despite you telling them that long time ago 😊 So you have to design the amp and test it with the Vintage 30 as well because everyone has them. To add an insult to the injury every Vintage 30 is not the same and even same speaker will not sound the same in different cabinets. Vintage 30 differs in sound depending on when and where it was made as well as what impedance particular speaker is. In some cases it differs for whom is it made for as well. In my humble experience later made in China 16 Ohm models are hardest. Those tend to sound harsh very often. China made doesn’t mean bad. But they are all different. Actually for the people looking for scooped Vintage 30 sound made in China versions will be it. UK made versions, especially earlier production tend to have more middle spectrum and tend to sound more as earlier classic Celestion speakers. Why are they so popular or used so much? Well they are very efficient hence loud (louder is perceived as better very often), they have scooped sound with more top end (that helps amplifiers that lack details and the top end) plus they got good story behind them. They objectively improve lot of amplifiers. The work in most cabinets type and configuration. How about Vintage 30 powered with pure boutique point to point amplifier? Well on such amplifiers you start noticing Vintage 30 limitations. Then very things that make them improve some other amplifiers is working against them. With a top rig, while you need everything to be at the same level, Vintage 30 often fails showing that it is not at the highest level. Especially with brighter amplifiers it can sound way to top heavy. Switching directly to something that can play more complex material shows the limit for the Vintage 30. It is not my favorite speaker. Though I keep on recommending it in certain situations and it works there very good. Plus my taste is my personal taste and disregarding how objective I am trying to be it will be subjective view to a complex issue. With complex issues general simple proclamations tend to backfire a lot. For example, I would say Creamback H is just superior version of the Vintage 30. Then someone gets it and swaps his Vintage 30 in his rig with the Creamback H and goes ballistics while in his rig it sounds worse to him with million reasons why that might be and with heavy personal preferences. If his amplifier lacks top end and has to much middle well more balanced speaker might sound worse. Plus people tend to ignore break in period. Lot of speakers need longer breaking in period to reach their sound. With balanced good amps I like Creamback H, new Hempback and Alnico Cream. Hempback quickly becoming one of my favorite ceramic magnet speakers. Yes I do separate speakers by the magnet type. In my humble experience certain type of music profit from certain type of speakers. For a rough example, one might say that for early hard rock sound you want a ceramic magnet speaker. Even going deeper by requesting medium ceramic magnet speaker. Or generalizing that most of the Alnico speakers sound great clean but only some of them sound good overdriven despite how essential is to know at what gain level we are talking about. So simple statements are almost impossible. Best advise is use what ever works for you and at your gain and volume level. See me stating this speaker sounds like this means actually with my rig, at my volume and gain levels, in my cabinet X speaker sounds like that to my ears. Complex thing. That is why I like to see person playing with his rig at his levels and only then I can give my educated guess despite my experience, and pray everything will be at needed quality level or cabinet might kill the sound. That is why I say get great cabinet and great amplifier. Try to avoid any component that is at lower level than the rest of the rig. Funny thing I am pretty sure what amplifier would be perfect for Daniel but most probably he will never have the chance to try it.
The way those notes bloom when Dan strikes a chord playing through that Sovtek just does it for me. What a great amp. I need to get one of these in my life.
Oh, man. This was something else! I thought it'd be the Sovtek for sure! But, wow: that "Bassman" is just unbelievable - on it's own AND with that amazing dream amp of Dan's! What I think about is that in my own journey is how any 1 of these would have sounded perfect and I'd have left and gigged happily. There is no right or wrong - and certainly no judgment or critique. It is amazing to get here this kind of comparison. . . then turn around and hear my own rig and still be happy and even more inspired from your experience informing mind. I end up loving my stuff more somehow after hearing you both love stuff. I hope that makes sense. Great show and just as inspiring as ever!
Hi That Pedal Show! I am massive fan for many many years and I'm so hyped when I get a new notification for the latest video! I have an idea for future episode. For years now I had troubles with my rig, changing amps, cabinets, pedals, cables, strings, picks etc. but the thing that really made the difference in my sound was PICKUP HEIGHT. I don't know how I overlooked this part of the rig but I think it's really the important one. Can you make a video on the topic of pickup heights of different pickup/guitars so people can learn more about it? Thank you!!!
Good Lord, that Fender! Delicious. That moment at the end where you kicked in the boost. What a biblical sound. It was fascinating watching you get there.
Love this. Videos like these keep me dreaming about leaving my apartment one day and then buying and cranking a nice tube amp. Always so enjoyable joining you guys on the journey. Thanks for another great video!
Great video as always gents! Running a JTM45 with v30s in the Low gain normal channel is definitely still worth trying. Treble all the way up and presence to taste should give you similar headroom levels to the bassman but with a warmer texture
Love when you do amp-related videos 👍 (The amplifier is my favorite instrument!) If you ever come across a vintage Traynor YBA-1 (Bassmaster) from the late 60's / early 70's they are still a great buy for a vintage amp with outstanding transformers and a circuit in the ballpark of the Bassman and JTM45
The bassbreaker with reverb, delay And Page gave me chills. Then again could have been Dans playing. Just WOW! Edit: should’ve waited to the end to comment. When he clicked the sun face on, that is the most incredible sound I’ve ever heard in my entire life. Gave me goosebumps on the chills. You guys are incredible at what you do.
Proving once again that the Celestion Vintage 30 is fantastic in open-back combos, even though it is so often associated with closed-back cabinets. So many people associate the Vintage 30 with hard rock and heavy metal tones that it's easy to forget that the original design brief of the Vintage 30 was to make it sound as close as they possibly could to the AlNiCo Blue with a higher power handling and a ceramic magnet. If you listen to the various Celestion offerings, you'll note that the Vintage 30 actually sounds more like the AlNiCo Blue than the other AlNiCo drivers (Gold, Cream, Ruby).
Thanks guys great show today, congrats on that amazing tone Dan. Inspired me to setup wet/dry this evening hadn’t tried it in a while and it’s just epic! Happy weekend
Do you mean to tell me that Dan performed Lay Down, with the Million Year Girl, on Hey Hey It's Saturday??? Cool as, man. I remember that performance. It made me go out & buy the CD. Before long, you're going to tell me that he was on The Garden, String of Pearls, & Shiver. Oops! I forgot. G'day. Andrew here. Thanks for a great show. It's good to see a show with a host who knows how to pronounce "Melbourne" & "Brisbane" properly. Keep up the good work. Catch ya next week Andrew
To me a vintage 30 is a great speaker for a bassman, fender absolutely knew what they were doing there. Can handle the punch of the amp and has a clarity that I love.
Tweed is the answer! The more I play my Deluxe, the more I love it. I am so looking forward to the tweed show coming together (Working Title: Need for Tweed)!
Those Vintage 30s can be used to bump the volume of almost any amplifier. I've an old 1987x with a 2x12" cab that was loaded with the Vintage 30s, it sounded great but was to loud for what I was doing. Switching to Greenbacks changed the tone/feel of the amp, but more importantly for myself, they lowered the sound pressure levels considerably. Great content.
My big rig for a while was a badcat 30 paired with a victoria tweed bassman (both with 212 cabs) AND is was absolutely epic. Just too much of a rig for virtually all I do so I mostly use a single combo but I get it, those two style of amps paired, absolutely amazing
Vintage 30's with that circuit just works. Period. Pairing it with the Matchless takes it to the next level. It held together nicely even when I noticed the decibel meter touching 107db. So it should be able to get the job done most anywhere, headroom wise.
Yeah, I wish they try a Weber 1230-55 with it or the other two amps. More bass and chime, but more-bluesy/less-aggressive. Could also get cleaner bass at the same volume. Would also sound great along with one V30.
@@GCKelloch Indeed. But without going too far in the weeds, how about the same comparison "plus" the wet/dry set-up comparison with Dan's favorite Sovtek-50, A/B compared to the Bassman. After all, we're talking about "Dans" rig and not ours. So it would only make sense to compare them 1st imho. Personally I'd try some Fane speakers as they are even more pronounced in the mids than vintage 30's, so Dan could control the top and bottom more to his liking. It's all subjective to personal taste either way.
Love every episode,and all about TPS. Just to help me understand: A. Timmons is playing stereo and that is my favorite tone of all time. Wet /Dry is a thing, I get it. What I don't understand is why Andy can get away with "stereo" and you guys prefer Wet/Dry. What are technical challenges. Thank you guys for all this years, and many more to come.
This a great video Fellas! I really liked the JTM 45 tone by itself standalone, but for what you were trying to accomplish with your overall rig, you definitely got it right! This was a great lesson on looking past your preconceived bias to what really achieves the preferred end result!
There's a line of text missing on Mick's tee shirt. Guitars & Amplifiers & pedals & coffee ... 40 mins in and the look of "Oh yeah!" was worth waiting for. Great vid guys.
This is so fun! I kinda did something similar with two Boss Katana 100 amps and an HX Stomp XL yesterday. Learned how to send a Plexi sim to one and a Deluxe sim to the other. Started to change amps and cabinets from there and shocked at the mix of sounds, some were really incredibly useable, notably the Matchless and a Deluxe vibrato channel - very jangly.
I've enjoyed this video. My at home rig is a Fender Bassman 70, mismatched into a cheap Marshall MG 4x12. You'd be surprised at how good it sounds too, haha.
bassman clear winner no brainer but dan is after only what he knows and hears. i found it interesting you chose a bass man why not a silverface pro or super reverb for the job your seeking . great vid once again
You ended up at a glorious sounding place. The 59' Bassman is hard to beat. I think the Mig 50 has a SS rectifier, which usually helps with the transients but the transients of the bassman weren't lacking. Just a little give from a tube rectifier can feel mighty good under the fingers. Great sounding Rig! Now I'm thinking about that 53 Fender Pro you guys had, and I'm wondering what a 53 Bassman might bring to the table. I love those 6SC7 preamp tubes in the early 50's Tweeds. Great show!
Seeing the V30s in the Bassman warms my heart. I've been running my fender champ clone head and also my Twin with V30s for a decade. Glorious and miles more headroom than Jensens, which while not a 'fender thing' suits me perfectly. Also the wet/dry and stereo 'thing' is fascinating. I've only tried stereo and while I love it, I just can't deal with the faff of having two amps and swapping pedal cabling when I need to run a single amp.
Blimey O'Riley! This was a very interesting show. My personal favourite is the Sovtek, but all the amps sounded spectacular. Enjoy your new rig, Dan! ❤
Aloha Guy! When Sovtek first came out, I thought they had 3 models. 50 Watt, 60 Watt and 100 Watt. I could be wrong, but the 50 was more like a Fender 6L6 and maybe a tube rectifier. The 60 was a 1987 with EL 34. And the 100 a plexi. I do at least know they was a t0 and 60.
You guys really need to get your hands on an old school late 60s to mid 70s Traynor amp. The best clean headroom and tone. Super pedal friendly. They really are amazing amps if you ever get the chance to play one.
I like that Mick has not forgotten the low input… anytime I have had issues with strident unnatural “wet” effects, I plug wet effects into separate amp into the low input and makes it blend… it also works with mono effects rig to make things more natural.
I owned a MIG 50 for a few years. I really appreciated, apart from its sound, that it was small and comparably light. But the quality of the parts and manufacturing was ....well... Soviet Russia level. Yet it is one of those parts of gear that I still regret to have sold.
What’s crazy is, Dan and Mick make some of the best sounds on the planet. The music they have made is incredible. Why are they not on tour!!!!!!!!! Also, you need a Gramaticco black pool. It will satisfy your jtm 45 desires and the cleans are amazing with single coils
My experience with the vintage 30 speaker has shown them to be louder/more powerful with the same amp, and to be really good at making clean tones. True they are a good rock speaker, but they especially shine on clean tones. No doubt in my mind that the Bassman benefits from the tighter and more efficient vintage 30's. I have 10" Fenders and they break up a lot sooner and are muddier than any with 12" speakers. Gear aside, there was some really beautiful passages played by Dan in this video.
Winner winner chicken dinner! Sounds amazing, Dan. As a pretty heavy Tremolo user, I find that the transient response in the wet amp becomes more apparent when I kick in a hefty bias-style trem or a thrubby harmonic type. It's as if the peak of the amplitude waves throw the transients into relief. I suppose it makes sense, given the literal amplitude modulation happening with Tremolo.
the tone you ended up with matchless+bassman+page should be able to stop war once and for all. and should be played to get people to come down off the ledge. i'm joking but really those tones make life worth living. grats.
I think we need a show on speaker cabinets. I swear a dumble 212 covered in suede is the best 212 I've ever heard, and a sister 112 is the best 112 I've heard. Had replicas built covered 8n tolex. They sounded very different. No idea why. Cabs are an underappreciated piece of the tone puzzle.
Fun! Sounds amazing! Every time you set up one of these Wet-Dry rigs, it pushes me closer to experimenting with my two amps (Dr. Z Z28, and a 5e3 clone). Could operate as a lower volume version? Would just have to add the splitter of some sort?
Yep! It would be awesome! Just find something that will split the signal. Ideally you need isolation and phase reversal too on the second output. But as a proof of concept, find any old way to split the signal and try it!
Love the idea behind this, very fun comparison! Also as a tip regarding the Bassman/Bassbreaker. In all tweed bassman circuits the bass pot massively effects the clean headroom that the amp has to give. Getting the most headroom wise out of these amps has everything to do with finding the least amount of bass that you can live with. Admittedly not ideal when trying to get a large and full sound for wet effects with a Telecaster 🤷♂🙂
I really like the Sovtek in it's own way, especially on cleaner. It's a nice compact, full mid-thick without too much guff in the bass with superior transient attack and huge dynamic range. I thought the Bassman sounded a little bit compressed, scooped, flubby, soft and overblown in the detached sounding bass when clean. Fender sparkly extended highs were lovely though. I suspect that for clean tones, the Mig-50 would sit better in many busier modern recordings, and live in a bigger band. That Fender bass would tend to be rolled off. And Vox can bring that sparkly chime. But overdriven, I definitely did prefer the Bassman. Not that the Sovtek wasn't sounding really good, but Bassman overdrive sound was next level. I'm looking out for a second amp to run in parallel with my Vox AC15. Been leaning toward the Electro-harmonix re-issue of the the Mig-50. And this re-inforces that. For simple pure tone+volume, the Mig 50 has little competition at under £600. Or even at much under £900. Even, for what I do, prefer it to the Marshall SV20 which sounds a bit harshly aggressive if not looking for that bark+bite. I suppose for lots of uses, the Mig 50 does need attenuation for recording, or pairing with 15-20W amps. DC-30+Bassman sounded immense though. Hopefully AC15+EHX Mig-50 can sound great, for a sub 1500 budget. Maybe you guys can do a mid-price Vox AC + Mig 50 demo at some point? I think AC15 and Mig50 are the best amps for fairly moderate money, and the fact the AC15 has spring reverb and tremelo + high upper mid voicing + chimey highs makes it a good partner for the simple but strong Mig, with it's thick lower midrange voice.
@@misterknightowlandco It's bang on. Maybe a little more headroom and stronger / cleaner bass. But basically the same, apart from the Sovtek badge being a bit more funky and retro. And they improved the front panel control pots to be better quality, which were cheap and tended to break easily on the original. The EHX simple amp but strong amp, and to me, is the real bargain so long as you can live without an FX loop, master volume and built in attenuation/power scaling. For more features, could look at Marshall SV20, which has a brighter, more more aggressive tone but is quite a bit more expensive. Vox AC15 combo or head is another good mid budget option, LOVE mine, still plenty loud and it's a bit more features than.the EHX, tremelo and spring reverb are nice. No effects loop either though. For more modern, I liked the PRS MT15 too, can stack gain but clean is also lovely and strong. Very loud too, but compact and good price. Downside is stock unmodded effects loop has issues with being noisy
Already knew the outcome by reading the title without the video even starting. 🙂 A Telecaster plus bassman tweed amp is one of the best combinations there is. Though the bassman can handle all guitars very well. Josh Scott will agree I think.
My favourite moment of this video is Mick's dumbfounded "what exactly is real world about this?!" - I love how in awe you still are of the world you've built for yourselves, but also how aware you are of how far removed that is from the average person's experience. Also top vid once again chaps, thankyou!
Thanks Stu - yep, that just about sums it up! Happy Friday geezer!
Agree 100% living vicariously watching TPS.😊
Yup. It's a world we'd all love to inhabit.
If that’s not the real world I’m gonna have to just keep dreaming then
that humility and appreciation for your hard work and success just makes it so special
Just want to say thanks for the countless hours I’ve watched you guys for like the last 7 years. Some videos like a dozen times. Thanks for all the hard work!
Thank you!
Yeah man, me too.
Me too. Anything on tape delays, W/D or W/D/W, I watch them over and over
Dan, I am in total agreement. This is THE BEST tone I’ve ever heard from you. The Bassman is the perfect pairing with your Matchless, a character-filled-clean to compliment the Matchless’ wonderful breakup.
I'd love to see you do a show on 10" speakers. Everyone knows the Super Reverb and Princeton, but honestly I've never been happier than using a 4x10 with 10" Greenbacks. No issues with low end control, lighter and more compact than a 4x12. Underrated!
And the transient response will be faster than 12" speakers too. I love my Lorantz loaded 4 x 10" cab. It's the tone I'd been searching for, for decades.
I love my 2x10" Laney VC30, stock Jensens, paired with another combo loaded with 1x12" (Blues Junior IV - loaded with a Neo Lil Texas, stock AC15C1- Greenback, Laney Cub12R - Vintage 30, any of those 3 as my dry amp) it just works. Something about the midrange of the 10" Jensens goes brilliantly with my favorite 1x12 combos.
10" speakers will always hold a place in my heart. They definitely have a focused, transient forward magic about them.
To this day, a 6V6 Fender 5F4 with 10" Alnico speakers is probably the most beautiful sounding amp I have ever heard.
Great show with my favorite circuit amps! These amps are all based on the original 5F6-A Tweed Basssman circuit. I’ve built two amps like these with 6V6 power tubes for lower volume. If you use a 12AY7 in position V1, its a Bassman and has more headroom. With a nice 12AX7, it breaks up earlier. I use the latter as my dry crunchy amp and the first as my wet amp. The combination is glorious!
Always wanted to try it with 6v6s! I may just have to now. This circuit also sounds killer cathode biased.
@@shawnmazzeimusic9549 Take a look at the 5G9 Tweed Tremolux circuit (not the earlier 5E9-A which is more like a Tweed Deluxe)! It's basically a 6L6 18-20 watt Bassman with tremolo! Headroom for days and half the wattage of a 5F6-A! Additionally, a 5F11 Vibrolux or 5F10 Harvard (5F11 minus trem) with a high efficiency speaker will get you there too. They are 10-12 watts and have great clean headroom up to about 4 or 5 then glorious tweed break up after that and very dynamic.
Doesn't most distortion come from the PI tube? Wouldn't a 12AT7 there make more difference? How is a lower gain tube in V1 different than turning the channel volume down if that tube stage doesn't distort either way?
Leo designed the Tweed Bassman (5F6-A) with a 12AY7 in V1. More headroom ! ! ! Tweed Deluxe (5E3)? Designed with a 12AY7 in V1... More Headroom.
As far as i know, these Bassman-Bassbreakers are designed around the 5F6-A circuit, but with a 12AX7 in V1. The JTM45 Preamp should be very similar to that. Still a pretty big difference in the video though…
This could honestly turn into the wet/dry channel, and I wouldn't even be mad.
Thank you guys for everything you do
The face you make Dan when the the matchless turns on… so happy for you - congrats on the rig! Sounds AMAZING
What an incredible episode. In my opinion, this is some of the most interesting and most musical playing I've heard from Dan, and by far my favorite tone he's had since I can remember. Possibly the best yet. My favorite TPS moment for a long time has been Mick's playing in the "fall in love with your guitar volume control" segment of a fuzz episode a few years back. His vintage strat into a Hendrix Fuzz Face. Killer sounds. Now this episode is right up there with it as one of my favorite TPS moments.
Extraordinary episode. Love when you experiment bravely and we all get to learn along with you and hear something great!
Life should be played through a JTM45. One of the best sounding amps ever.
My old guitar instructor/tech always used a JTM45 he modded a bit to have a tiny bit more headroom, Red tolex just like Dan talked about at the start. Such a lovely sound, with so much warmth, perfect presence and levels of drive. Always wish I could have bought it off him but he loved it even more!!!
Great vid as always guys.
WOW.... That is THE SOUND!....
That was kind a mystic experience in the end, wile you was playing through all your equipment.
That is THAT sound. Wow ...
Thanks a lot! ☀️🌿✨
Take care!
Cheers mate 🤓🙏
Absolutely love TPS but its another level when you guys do the Amp comparisons videos.
Now we need a show with both our your rigs in the room!
Great show thanks guys
This is The Rig for Dan! Well done! I knew it would be the Bassman/Bassbreaker! Takes pedals and time based effects better than any other amp!
Awesome show today guys! There's a Tweed for every situation! Haha 🤘🤘
Also, I'll take all the wet/dry content you guys wanna put out! Lol
A Magnatone might be a great choice. It has an insane amount of headroom, incredibly clear and articulate, takes pedals perfectly, and has almost a 3D enveloping sound.
I know he’d love that!
Great shout there
100% let’s a get a stereo twilighter in there
I have the M80 2x12 combo and it's amazing and LOUD. I love it. The FX loop is a bit different somehow. Tube driven. Not as clean as one may expect.
Love the stereo Twilighter sound with and without the trem/vib. turned on. It just has that certain something, metallicy sound.
Enchanting tone towards the end lads 🤩🤩🤘🔥🔥🎸🎸 thank you for taking us on this tone exploration journey 🤘
The presence control on the real old big tweeds is what makes that compression feel come in. High presence = more compression, low presence = less. It's counterintuitive but it's just a thing. It feels like a totally different amplifier with all other controls left the same from a feel perspective. Thank you Leo!
Wouldn't that depend on how hard the amp section is driven? GNFB "compresses" the high harmonics so Presence down essential compresses the high end along with however much the low end is compressed.
@@GCKelloch High presence = less NFB but as you note NFB is global not just confined to the power section. It's counterintuitive because you'd expect more 'presence' from less NFB = less compression but in real life it FEELS like the notes get bouncy as you remove the anti-phased frequency cancellation of the NFB. Just one of those things. If I had to place a bet on why this happens with old big tweeds but not with a similar circuit like an old JTM45 (even with an NFB resistor and OT tap selection to make the levels of NFB commensurate) I'd attribute it to the output transformer design.
This made me think of the episode (vlog?) about setting Ainsley lister up with some delay. I think Mick has a gift for helping people work through options and figure out what they need. Great job, Mick, and congrats on the amazing sounds, Dan!
That smile at 38:20 said it all. Absolutely brilliant sound. I plan to listen to this again tomorrow, as Dan’s inspired jamming and tone with this new setup is as good as I’ve heard on TPS, or frankly, anywhere. Cheers fellas.
I love when y'all start playing long passages of music. Truly fabulous!
Who else thought Dan's intro was pretty epic? It felt like a new mood and a new pace for Dan. I really enjoyed that.
That’s a lot of happy faces in that show! Probably about the best sounding guitar playing, ever! Glorious. Thanks guys.
I've done many horrible and abusive things in gigs to a Bassman and just assumed it would be the default winner.
until I heard that Sovtek.
Very impressed that you did so much work that you changed my mind twice.
What an absolute delight to listen to this video. Inspiring and uplifting sounds. Congratulations Dan for this finding. It is so nice to watchyou guys work together.
There’s something very Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance going on here: the search for “Quality” and that elusive yet necessarily real sound that exists in our heads.
Good morning all! Coffee is ready and so am I. I have been Sovtek curious but know very little about them. Looking forward to being educated!
Great sound guys! Clarity, is the word that comes to mind with the Matchless and BluesBreaker which means tons of headroom! so awesome!
A entirely lovely episode. Informative and fun, fun, fun. These two leg ends know and appreciate each other so well. It’s a joy to behold. Just checked, in the states, Fender ‘59 Bassman LTD 4x10 45 watt Combo is $1999.99 at Sweetwater.
Started watching this video late night Friday. Finished it on Saturday early in the morning because I couldn’t sleep. As it happens, this time of the year it’s my B-day today. Why that matters, well it happens that I get something for myself as well. This time around it was my decision to expand in house speakers and cabinets rig. Despite me ordering on time only yesterday everything was ready for the testing and obligatory breaking in of the speakers. When you design an amplifier, especially a head unit you have to make sure how it works with the different cabinets and you have to be able to demonstrate the difference cabinets and speakers make. At least you have to be able to give good advice how to proceed and what to expect on the volume level used. You can’t in print your taste onto the others and you can’t change the fact that they are going to use what ever cabinet they currently have. So you want to tell them what can they expect or even arrange to come to their rehearsal with your head and help them out. Mostly, what happens is that their cabinet is not at the amps level but the amplifier will sound better in their rig so they will say yeah right get the amplifier and use for longer time their existing cabinet. Then sometimes later some of them will call you and say they have tried really good cabinet and they couldn’t believe how much difference it made despite you telling them that long time ago 😊 So you have to design the amp and test it with the Vintage 30 as well because everyone has them. To add an insult to the injury every Vintage 30 is not the same and even same speaker will not sound the same in different cabinets. Vintage 30 differs in sound depending on when and where it was made as well as what impedance particular speaker is. In some cases it differs for whom is it made for as well. In my humble experience later made in China 16 Ohm models are hardest. Those tend to sound harsh very often. China made doesn’t mean bad. But they are all different. Actually for the people looking for scooped Vintage 30 sound made in China versions will be it. UK made versions, especially earlier production tend to have more middle spectrum and tend to sound more as earlier classic Celestion speakers. Why are they so popular or used so much? Well they are very efficient hence loud (louder is perceived as better very often), they have scooped sound with more top end (that helps amplifiers that lack details and the top end) plus they got good story behind them. They objectively improve lot of amplifiers. The work in most cabinets type and configuration.
How about Vintage 30 powered with pure boutique point to point amplifier? Well on such amplifiers you start noticing Vintage 30 limitations. Then very things that make them improve some other amplifiers is working against them.
With a top rig, while you need everything to be at the same level, Vintage 30 often fails showing that it is not at the highest level. Especially with brighter amplifiers it can sound way to top heavy. Switching directly to something that can play more complex material shows the limit for the Vintage 30.
It is not my favorite speaker. Though I keep on recommending it in certain situations and it works there very good.
Plus my taste is my personal taste and disregarding how objective I am trying to be it will be subjective view to a complex issue.
With complex issues general simple proclamations tend to backfire a lot.
For example, I would say Creamback H is just superior version of the Vintage 30. Then someone gets it and swaps his Vintage 30 in his rig with the Creamback H and goes ballistics while in his rig it sounds worse to him with million reasons why that might be and with heavy personal preferences. If his amplifier lacks top end and has to much middle well more balanced speaker might sound worse. Plus people tend to ignore break in period. Lot of speakers need longer breaking in period to reach their sound.
With balanced good amps I like Creamback H, new Hempback and Alnico Cream. Hempback quickly becoming one of my favorite ceramic magnet speakers. Yes I do separate speakers by the magnet type. In my humble experience certain type of music profit from certain type of speakers. For a rough example, one might say that for early hard rock sound you want a ceramic magnet speaker. Even going deeper by requesting medium ceramic magnet speaker. Or generalizing that most of the Alnico speakers sound great clean but only some of them sound good overdriven despite how essential is to know at what gain level we are talking about.
So simple statements are almost impossible.
Best advise is use what ever works for you and at your gain and volume level.
See me stating this speaker sounds like this means actually with my rig, at my volume and gain levels, in my cabinet X speaker sounds like that to my ears. Complex thing. That is why I like to see person playing with his rig at his levels and only then I can give my educated guess despite my experience, and pray everything will be at needed quality level or cabinet might kill the sound.
That is why I say get great cabinet and great amplifier. Try to avoid any component that is at lower level than the rest of the rig.
Funny thing I am pretty sure what amplifier would be perfect for Daniel but most probably he will never have the chance to try it.
What a good pairing! Presence, transients, bite, but nothing harsh in the ears. Great W/D setup!
Happy days!
The way those notes bloom when Dan strikes a chord playing through that Sovtek just does it for me. What a great amp. I need to get one of these in my life.
Oh, man. This was something else! I thought it'd be the Sovtek for sure! But, wow: that "Bassman" is just unbelievable - on it's own AND with that amazing dream amp of Dan's! What I think about is that in my own journey is how any 1 of these would have sounded perfect and I'd have left and gigged happily. There is no right or wrong - and certainly no judgment or critique. It is amazing to get here this kind of comparison. . . then turn around and hear my own rig and still be happy and even more inspired from your experience informing mind. I end up loving my stuff more somehow after hearing you both love stuff. I hope that makes sense. Great show and just as inspiring as ever!
One way to look at that amp: it's really a Bluesbreaker with better iron.
Hi That Pedal Show! I am massive fan for many many years and I'm so hyped when I get a new notification for the latest video!
I have an idea for future episode. For years now I had troubles with my rig, changing amps, cabinets, pedals, cables, strings, picks etc. but the thing that really made the difference in my sound was PICKUP HEIGHT. I don't know how I overlooked this part of the rig but I think it's really the important one. Can you make a video on the topic of pickup heights of different pickup/guitars so people can learn more about it? Thank you!!!
Good Lord, that Fender! Delicious. That moment at the end where you kicked in the boost. What a biblical sound. It was fascinating watching you get there.
Love this. Videos like these keep me dreaming about leaving my apartment one day and then buying and cranking a nice tube amp. Always so enjoyable joining you guys on the journey. Thanks for another great video!
I live out in the middle of nowhere for this kind of thing. :)
@@johnnymossville that's my dream John! Turn it up loud and not worry. :)
What a show!! No bad sounds there, but that Bassman (Bassbreaker) definitely did the job required. Sounds killer!
Glorious tones. Truly. Well done. Enjoyed the process of selecting. Thanks for all you do.
I loved this episode. Really awesome to see you guys try to find the right bit of gear for a specific purpose and go through a bunch of options.
Great video as always gents! Running a JTM45 with v30s in the Low gain normal channel is definitely still worth trying. Treble all the way up and presence to taste should give you similar headroom levels to the bassman but with a warmer texture
Dan - your intro.. well.. it was like when Andy Timmons was on TPS… I felt that way again listening to this.. Thanks!
Ha, that grin on Dans face, when the first notes from the Matchless entered the room! Some epic noise there man!
I'm really not surprised this combination works well. I have a Vintage 30 and a Creamback in my 2x12 and they blend perfectly.
Sounding fantastic, and I know I’ve said it on a video before but the diamond vibrato into the dry side of a wet/dry rig is such a great thing.
Love when you do amp-related videos 👍 (The amplifier is my favorite instrument!) If you ever come across a vintage Traynor YBA-1 (Bassmaster) from the late 60's / early 70's they are still a great buy for a vintage amp with outstanding transformers and a circuit in the ballpark of the Bassman and JTM45
The bassbreaker with reverb, delay And Page gave me chills. Then again could have been Dans playing. Just WOW!
Edit: should’ve waited to the end to comment. When he clicked the sun face on, that is the most incredible sound I’ve ever heard in my entire life. Gave me goosebumps on the chills. You guys are incredible at what you do.
Excellent timing.
Busy day and finally home. Nice glass of South Australian red from Langhorne Creek and TP Freaking S
Cheers! I have a NZ Pinot Noir waiting for me. Mick here. Looking forward to that!
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Enjoy mick. Always a weekly highlight.
🍻 cheers john
One amp i also rate is and have owned many over the years is a Selmer Treble and bass 100s. Just a loud loud amp that sounds blooming fantastic 👌
Proving once again that the Celestion Vintage 30 is fantastic in open-back combos, even though it is so often associated with closed-back cabinets. So many people associate the Vintage 30 with hard rock and heavy metal tones that it's easy to forget that the original design brief of the Vintage 30 was to make it sound as close as they possibly could to the AlNiCo Blue with a higher power handling and a ceramic magnet. If you listen to the various Celestion offerings, you'll note that the Vintage 30 actually sounds more like the AlNiCo Blue than the other AlNiCo drivers (Gold, Cream, Ruby).
Now that is interesting. Never heard the Blue thing about V30s before!
A lot of folks like a V30 in a Deluxe reverb in place of the Jensen-style speakers. I'm going to have to try that some time.
I use a vintage 30 in an open back cab and love the sound.
I always learn something from watching your uploads, thank you both immensely for the knowledge shared.
Thanks guys great show today, congrats on that amazing tone Dan. Inspired me to setup wet/dry this evening hadn’t tried it in a while and it’s just epic! Happy weekend
Do you mean to tell me that Dan performed Lay Down, with the Million Year Girl, on Hey Hey It's Saturday??? Cool as, man. I remember that performance. It made me go out & buy the CD. Before long, you're going to tell me that he was on The Garden, String of Pearls, & Shiver. Oops! I forgot.
G'day. Andrew here. Thanks for a great show. It's good to see a show with a host who knows how to pronounce "Melbourne" & "Brisbane" properly. Keep up the good work.
Catch ya next week
Andrew
To me a vintage 30 is a great speaker for a bassman, fender absolutely knew what they were doing there. Can handle the punch of the amp and has a clarity that I love.
Tweed is the answer! The more I play my Deluxe, the more I love it. I am so looking forward to the tweed show coming together (Working Title: Need for Tweed)!
The Bassman definitely fills in all the low end that the Matchless wasn't giving. Such a full sound!!!
Those Vintage 30s can be used to bump the volume of almost any amplifier.
I've an old 1987x with a 2x12" cab that was loaded with the Vintage 30s, it sounded great but was to loud for what I was doing.
Switching to Greenbacks changed the tone/feel of the amp, but more importantly for myself, they lowered the sound pressure levels considerably.
Great content.
My big rig for a while was a badcat 30 paired with a victoria tweed bassman (both with 212 cabs) AND is was absolutely epic. Just too much of a rig for virtually all I do so I mostly use a single combo but I get it, those two style of amps paired, absolutely amazing
The quest for more headroom has led me to preparing to buy a SECOND Roland JC40. I blame TPS for teaching me how to turn knobs DOWN.
Vintage 30's with that circuit just works. Period. Pairing it with the Matchless takes it to the next level. It held together nicely even when I noticed the decibel meter touching 107db. So it should be able to get the job done most anywhere, headroom wise.
Yeah, I wish they try a Weber 1230-55 with it or the other two amps. More bass and chime, but more-bluesy/less-aggressive. Could also get cleaner bass at the same volume. Would also sound great along with one V30.
@@GCKelloch Indeed. But without going too far in the weeds, how about the same comparison "plus" the wet/dry set-up comparison with Dan's favorite Sovtek-50, A/B compared to the Bassman. After all, we're talking about "Dans" rig and not ours. So it would only make sense to compare them 1st imho. Personally I'd try some Fane speakers as they are even more pronounced in the mids than vintage 30's, so Dan could control the top and bottom more to his liking. It's all subjective to personal taste either way.
Ah so cool to go back and see the old shows! :D
Love every episode,and all about TPS. Just to help me understand: A. Timmons is playing stereo and that is my favorite tone of all time. Wet /Dry is a thing, I get it. What I don't understand is why Andy can get away with "stereo" and you guys prefer Wet/Dry. What are technical challenges. Thank you guys for all this years, and many more to come.
That tone! the combo of both amps driven....Best tone ever!!
Put a BadCat Cub 40R into this comparison.... Mind Blown !!
Mick you look great !!! Look refreshed, happy, eyes are bright !!
Thank you!
Great show, I had the Bassman down 😀. On another note, would love to see a show on Tweed comparisons. 5E3, 5E7, 5F4, 5F6….
This a great video Fellas! I really liked the JTM 45 tone by itself standalone, but for what you were trying to accomplish with your overall rig, you definitely got it right! This was a great lesson on looking past your preconceived bias to what really achieves the preferred end result!
There's a line of text missing on Mick's tee shirt. Guitars & Amplifiers & pedals & coffee ...
40 mins in and the look of "Oh yeah!" was worth waiting for. Great vid guys.
This is so fun!
I kinda did something similar with two Boss Katana 100 amps and an HX Stomp XL yesterday. Learned how to send a Plexi sim to one and a Deluxe sim to the other. Started to change amps and cabinets from there and shocked at the mix of sounds, some were really incredibly useable, notably the Matchless and a Deluxe vibrato channel - very jangly.
I've enjoyed this video. My at home rig is a Fender Bassman 70, mismatched into a cheap Marshall MG 4x12. You'd be surprised at how good it sounds too, haha.
Happy to hear that Sunface like that btw! I don't own one, but I have gotten to play a lot with one. Magic.
Glad you’d got the Radial to work! This is a great “learning in real time” video.
bassman clear winner no brainer but dan is after only what he knows and hears. i found it interesting you chose a bass man why not a silverface pro or super reverb for the job your seeking . great vid once again
Awesome episode lads. Man you guys have the best job in the world!
Have a cigar, lads. Great show. Funny how my instant takeaway is to look up Matchless, having absolutely no practical justification for doing so...
I’m just happy to see Dan that happy.
Comparison is fun. I think the reality is they are all great amps and this will inspire people to try out amps at volume. Great show.
You ended up at a glorious sounding place. The 59' Bassman is hard to beat. I think the Mig 50 has a SS rectifier, which usually helps with the transients but the transients of the bassman weren't lacking. Just a little give from a tube rectifier can feel mighty good under the fingers. Great sounding Rig! Now I'm thinking about that 53 Fender Pro you guys had, and I'm wondering what a 53 Bassman might bring to the table. I love those 6SC7 preamp tubes in the early 50's Tweeds. Great show!
Seeing the V30s in the Bassman warms my heart. I've been running my fender champ clone head and also my Twin with V30s for a decade. Glorious and miles more headroom than Jensens, which while not a 'fender thing' suits me perfectly. Also the wet/dry and stereo 'thing' is fascinating. I've only tried stereo and while I love it, I just can't deal with the faff of having two amps and swapping pedal cabling when I need to run a single amp.
Blimey O'Riley! This was a very interesting show. My personal favourite is the Sovtek, but all the amps sounded spectacular. Enjoy your new rig, Dan! ❤
Aloha Guy! When Sovtek first came out, I thought they had 3 models. 50 Watt, 60 Watt and 100 Watt. I could be wrong, but the 50 was more like a Fender 6L6 and maybe a tube rectifier. The 60 was a 1987 with EL 34. And the 100 a plexi. I do at least know they was a t0 and 60.
Loved the split second where I was certain that there was a HM2 at the bottom right of the board
You guys really need to get your hands on an old school late 60s to mid 70s Traynor amp. The best clean headroom and tone. Super pedal friendly. They really are amazing amps if you ever get the chance to play one.
I like that Mick has not forgotten the low input… anytime I have had issues with strident unnatural “wet” effects, I plug wet effects into separate amp into the low input and makes it blend… it also works with mono effects rig to make things more natural.
I owned a MIG 50 for a few years. I really appreciated, apart from its sound, that it was small and comparably light. But the quality of the parts and manufacturing was ....well... Soviet Russia level. Yet it is one of those parts of gear that I still regret to have sold.
Fantastic combo of amps. You know, essentially, you choose The Edge amp combo. VOX + Fender. Obviously a winning pair.
What’s crazy is, Dan and Mick make some of the best sounds on the planet. The music they have made is incredible. Why are they not on tour!!!!!!!!! Also, you need a Gramaticco black pool. It will satisfy your jtm 45 desires and the cleans are amazing with single coils
My experience with the vintage 30 speaker has shown them to be louder/more powerful with the same amp, and to be really good at making clean tones. True they are a good rock speaker, but they especially shine on clean tones. No doubt in my mind that the Bassman benefits from the tighter and more efficient vintage 30's. I have 10" Fenders and they break up a lot sooner and are muddier than any with 12" speakers. Gear aside, there was some really beautiful passages played by Dan in this video.
Winner winner chicken dinner! Sounds amazing, Dan.
As a pretty heavy Tremolo user, I find that the transient response in the wet amp becomes more apparent when I kick in a hefty bias-style trem or a thrubby harmonic type. It's as if the peak of the amplitude waves throw the transients into relief. I suppose it makes sense, given the literal amplitude modulation happening with Tremolo.
Great video! I only wish you'd give that beautiful Jaguar in the background more airtime!
Beautiful sounds, Gentlemen, congratulations!
We others just got our work cut out for us…
the tone you ended up with matchless+bassman+page should be able to stop war once and for all. and should be played to get people to come down off the ledge. i'm joking but really those tones make life worth living. grats.
Love this kind of format video! 🎉
A lot of magic goes down in this little studio! It would be interesting to get a tour of the whole place one day. It looks like such s nice setup!
I think we need a show on speaker cabinets. I swear a dumble 212 covered in suede is the best 212 I've ever heard, and a sister 112 is the best 112 I've heard. Had replicas built covered 8n tolex. They sounded very different. No idea why. Cabs are an underappreciated piece of the tone puzzle.
Having just spent some time with an actual Dumble 212, I concur that it’s the best speaker cab I’ve ever heard. Arggghhh. Mick here.
Love my c/s bass breaker….glad to see it getting some love here too!
Fun! Sounds amazing! Every time you set up one of these Wet-Dry rigs, it pushes me closer to experimenting with my two amps (Dr. Z Z28, and a 5e3 clone). Could operate as a lower volume version?
Would just have to add the splitter of some sort?
Yep! It would be awesome! Just find something that will split the signal. Ideally you need isolation and phase reversal too on the second output. But as a proof of concept, find any old way to split the signal and try it!
This is awesome! I wish you guys would have run the sovtek through vintage 30s.
Yeah this would have been a lot better comparison if they are both through vintage 30s
What a great video, guys! Thank u so much for this.
I just watched the Andy Timmins video. I have know Andy’s brother John for years but never meet Andy. What a great episode.
Love the idea behind this, very fun comparison!
Also as a tip regarding the Bassman/Bassbreaker. In all tweed bassman circuits the bass pot massively effects the clean headroom that the amp has to give. Getting the most headroom wise out of these amps has everything to do with finding the least amount of bass that you can live with. Admittedly not ideal when trying to get a large and full sound for wet effects with a Telecaster 🤷♂🙂
Yah, we turn it down considerably later on….
I really like the Sovtek in it's own way, especially on cleaner. It's a nice compact, full mid-thick without too much guff in the bass with superior transient attack and huge dynamic range. I thought the Bassman sounded a little bit compressed, scooped, flubby, soft and overblown in the detached sounding bass when clean. Fender sparkly extended highs were lovely though. I suspect that for clean tones, the Mig-50 would sit better in many busier modern recordings, and live in a bigger band. That Fender bass would tend to be rolled off. And Vox can bring that sparkly chime. But overdriven, I definitely did prefer the Bassman. Not that the Sovtek wasn't sounding really good, but Bassman overdrive sound was next level. I'm looking out for a second amp to run in parallel with my Vox AC15. Been leaning toward the Electro-harmonix re-issue of the the Mig-50. And this re-inforces that. For simple pure tone+volume, the Mig 50 has little competition at under £600. Or even at much under £900. Even, for what I do, prefer it to the Marshall SV20 which sounds a bit harshly aggressive if not looking for that bark+bite. I suppose for lots of uses, the Mig 50 does need attenuation for recording, or pairing with 15-20W amps. DC-30+Bassman sounded immense though. Hopefully AC15+EHX Mig-50 can sound great, for a sub 1500 budget. Maybe you guys can do a mid-price Vox AC + Mig 50 demo at some point? I think AC15 and Mig50 are the best amps for fairly moderate money, and the fact the AC15 has spring reverb and tremelo + high upper mid voicing + chimey highs makes it a good partner for the simple but strong Mig, with it's thick lower midrange voice.
I’ve been eyeballing the ehx version of the sovtek, but never played one. How close to the original is it?
@@misterknightowlandco It's bang on. Maybe a little more headroom and stronger / cleaner bass. But basically the same, apart from the Sovtek badge being a bit more funky and retro. And they improved the front panel control pots to be better quality, which were cheap and tended to break easily on the original. The EHX simple amp but strong amp, and to me, is the real bargain so long as you can live without an FX loop, master volume and built in attenuation/power scaling. For more features, could look at Marshall SV20, which has a brighter, more more aggressive tone but is quite a bit more expensive. Vox AC15 combo or head is another good mid budget option, LOVE mine, still plenty loud and it's a bit more features than.the EHX, tremelo and spring reverb are nice. No effects loop either though. For more modern, I liked the PRS MT15 too, can stack gain but clean is also lovely and strong. Very loud too, but compact and good price. Downside is stock unmodded effects loop has issues with being noisy
Already knew the outcome by reading the title without the video even starting. 🙂 A Telecaster plus bassman tweed amp is one of the best combinations there is. Though the bassman can handle all guitars very well. Josh Scott will agree I think.