ACP369 Commuting Pros and Cons
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2023
- What is it like to be a crew member commuting to work? Whether you are a pilot, flight attendant, mechanic, or other work group that is able to commute to work there are both challenges and benefits to commuting. In this episode, we will define the term commuting as it relates to an aviation career and discuss the pros and cons of commuting.
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Talking Points:
What is commuting?
Why commuting makes this a whole different job for many.
I relate my experiences with over 2 decades of working as an airline pilot.
Pros of commuting:
Live in Paradise.
Live near family.
Live a better lifestyle than you could afford in the base where you work.
No need to move.
Cons of commuting:
You lose much of your time to commuting.
Missing work because you can’t make it in.
Less sleep because you are commuting instead of commuting.
Having to leave work early due to weather.
Cost of a crash pad, hotel, or apartment.
Time away from home.
You may need to make alternate plans at the last minute.
The shortest distance to work may not be a straight line.
Examples:
CLL to SLC
MYAT to KEWR
KLAL to KEWR
Driving to work.
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Thank you for these great podcasts! Just recently discovered your channel. 39yrs old here, private & instrument ratings, 230hrs total time, BUT have not flown in about 17 years! But... About to go all-in and make the move to a career in aviation. Your channel is very helpful. Will probably do a consultation with you soon. Thanks!
You are so welcome! Excited to see you are pursuing your dream. I look forward to hearing more about your journey to the flight deck.
Do you have a good reference or video explaining how to determine and compare pay and benefits for airlines? Most of them describe benifits in hourly pay and still confused on how to convert that to an annual salery. Airline Pilot Center has good resources but not sure how to use the sliders to get a good estimate. Thank you.
A simple formula is to multiply the hourly rate by 1000. Most pilots get paid on average 1000 hours per year. For example if a pilot is making $140 per hour then the annual pay is $140,000.
You mentioned something very interesting about commuting by Amtrak. Are you referring to something similar to a jumpseat agreement, a special discount program for flight crew, or were you merely indicating that some people take the train to work?
Pilots do all three. There are special discounts for airline employees for travel on various modes of transportation depending on the agreement the airline has with the transport company. For example, there are shuttle services that offer van service between cities, and other companies offer helicopter services. The train pass travel/jump seat agreements vary based on the rail company. The only experience I have had is with Amtrak over 20 years ago and the agreement probably has changed. The most important thing to do is review your travel agreements through the company and the jump seat agreements with the airline.
Additionally, airlines also deadhead crews on the train which is a paid ticket when they are on duty. Although very rare I have seen airline deadhead pilots on helicopters.
Wow
Thanks for teaching me the pros lol
I dialysis think there were any
You are welcome. Although it is best to live in base commuting can have it's benefits.
Hey how hard is it to get a base in Florida? I currently live south Florida. Also do you know anyone that uses personal airplanes to commute to work?
New hires at some of the airlines are getting based in Florida right out of training. It really depends on the airline. I know a few people who commute to work by plane. Normally the pilot arranges for parking their plane at the airport and transportation to the terminal in advance. Most general aviation parking is a few miles from the main airline terminal.
Hey! How does it work commuting from a different country to the US? I live in Canada now and would like to be a Pilot in the US, however I would like to live in Canada, would that work?
It is the same as traveling internationally as a passenger except you can utilize your jump seat privilege and travel for free. Depending on the country you may have to pay taxes when traveling across the border. There are many crew members who live in other countries and commute to work. It takes some planning and is normally easier if you fly on the airline you work for.
I commuted internationally for years and the only occasionally challenge was the time it would take to clear customs and immigration. Also, there are certain items you may not be able to carry between the border so you need to be more aware of what you are carrying in your baggage.
Hope this helps,
Carl.
If you live in base how far away can your cummute to work be? 1 hour? 2? 3?
That really depends on your personal preference. Some have drives over 3 hours. Just remember when you are on reserve you may have a call out period that is only 2 hours. Some pilots will drive within a distance they are comfortable with and then wait at a rest stop or some other public space. Some use hotel rooms or crash pads to have a place to sit while on reserve to meet the call our requirements. Of course if you are on a long call out such as a 12 hour call out 5 hour drive may work. Just remember that after you drive you can work up to a maximum of 18 hours.
Does the airline has discounts with certain hotels?
Yes they do but I always advise checking all resources. Some times the airline discount is not as good as some of the online hotel directories.