How do u talk to a Christian? Christianity is thee biggest cult ever on the planet, Christians hate not only the Truth, but they do not actually obey jesus.
On Tik Tok in the past couple of weeks there has been a influx of Hebrew Israelites coming into my feed. Its incredible. I didn’t know how to deal with this and then remembered Cultish. I’ve been watching your podcast on this topic and they are so very helpful in understanding them and how to talk to them. Thank you! ❤
Use the Bible. Remember the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. If you listen to a lot of them speak. They contradict themselves with the Word. Remember only the Gospel can call people out of the darkness. So let the Word speak.
I really needed this. The enemy is so clever. I seen a lot of things of this Hebrew Israelite movement that seemed pure yet I felt a lot of arrogance and racism in it. A lot of condemnation and not the love of Yeshua.
Ya. I met one at my work. He thought he was better than everybody. Telling me, im not a man unless i have a beard. He was racist and disrespectful. I got fired cuz I was gona knock him out. Im not a violent guy. But this guy was so disrespectful.
Glad to have come to this video. Spoke with a young gentleman who the Holy Spirit open my eyes to see that he was Hebrew Israelite. We plan to have coffee and talk more this upcoming week, so I pray the Holy Spirit continues to speak to me, and give me the right words to say.
Wisdom of Solomon 5 1-5 KJVA (see also Isaiah 49, Hosea 1:10) 1 Then shall the righteous man stand in great boldness before the face of such as have afflicted him, and made no account of his labours. 2 When they see it, they shall be troubled with terrible fear, and shall be amazed at the strangeness of his salvation, so far beyond all that they looked for. 3 And they repenting and groaning for anguish of spirit shall say within themselves, This was he, whom we had sometimes in derision, and a proverb of reproach: 4 We fools accounted his life madness, and his end to be without honour: 5 How is he numbered among the children of God, and his lot is among the saints! Qam Yasharhla
"Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind." Ecclesiastes 12:13 "This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus." Revelation 14:12 "But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws." Matthew 7:23
19 Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. 20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it- 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (Romans 3:19-23, ESV)
@@Oscardunlap That's an improper rebuke. Paul is preaching Christ, that rebuke is for people who rejects Christ & not the law of Moses. Your fallacy of appealing to authority is wild. The brother quoted scriptures that involves faith in Christ & keeping the law.
@@guynsly1210 This scripture is literally talking about purpose of the law. Just like this one is. 7 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." 8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. 9 I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died. (Romans 7:7-9, ESV) Do you believe in a Christian that things the law of God is made void? No so. I believe we are saved that we may keep the law, not keepers of the law that we may be saved. You guys have it backward. The root is faith, the fruit is obedience.
@@Oscardunlap You're forcing an argument that's not being made by anybody. You're arguing with yourself. You have a premeditated argument in your mind that you are projecting towards other people. You need to get rid of this delusion, and get on board that we are on the same page. You came from the ministry I came from. We do not teach the law is what gives us salvation. We literally preach Christ, and that's where we get salvation from. Without Christ, there's no salvation. You should have known this, for some reason your integrity is lost and limbo, and you don't want it back. You keep saying y'all, yet you know I'm from GOCC. Cuz I've told you. And you came from there, so I know you're lying. Repent. That scripture you quoted is a double edge sword. If you don't feel sorrow, You're long gone. May God have mercy on you.
Why should it matter to you? Stick to your belief and don’t worry about someone else’s. Just because you have a ex black Hebrew Israelite on your platform doesn’t make what you saying right.
This is why: I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins." (John 8:24, ESV) Those who are not in Christ have God's wrath abiding on them. I speak out because I am commanded to and in hope that God might save some of those who are lost in this false Gospel.
When it comes to disagreements anybody could speak out on anything. So free country, with free religion. And we have free will which is God given. Therefore a person can't speak on matters that they disagree with. Yet they must do it with integrity, because without that, is just one sided story, a he say she say, not really getting down to the issues that concerns said person that is speaking on it. This is an informative testimony, of alleged teachings coming from the ministry he left. Anyone who regurgitates what he said about said ministry, and they're saying it as it's facts, is a victim of genetic fallacy. It's like the rumor that went around saying that King James slept with his mother or that he was a sodomite. There's no proof of that, it's only being spoken by word of mouth. That right there is bearing false witness, Therefore people should be careful how they speak on other people or other ministries. Get your facts straight, after you hear the alleged testimonies, do your own research. These ministries are not hiding themselves, like real cults do, they websites, they have FAQs on their websites, check them out. Last time I referred people to the website, my comment was deleted. I assume this would be as well if not, oh well.
Thank you for loving those rebelliously entertaining deceptive cults by giving them THE truth. Warriors! Don’t stop what you’re doing. God’s using you to encourage more to do so!
Also the apologetic faith never seem to have a problem with the jew-wish ( white / red people ) who have been calling themselves Gods chosen people since any of us can remember but when brown/black people come to take their rightful place as the true Israelites all of a sudden here comes apologetic faith.
@@Oscardunlap I know my saviour the Lion of the tribe of Judah, according to scripture came for the lost sheep of the house Israel. The one who said you love me keep my commandments! Come brother don't come for me shabbat Shalom Family 🙏🏾
As for eye salve that you may see......then get saved. Nothing but humility will stand before God. All religious Pride will fall and fade away to the lake of fire at the judgement. It will not matter what heritage, color,church, doctrine,creed or anything else you try to hide behind. It didn't work for the pharasees who were of "Abraham's seed" ...and "kept the commandments" and it won't for the BHI. Get out of this cult and find Christ almighty.
Hebrew Israelites are not the only ones. There’s are many many cults, sects, etc… that claim “WE are the true people of God, everyone else are false teachers”… It’s a VERY common practice. Gods word is clear about Salvation being for “whoever shall receive” or “any who come” and “anyone who knocks, the door will be open” …of God is “not willing that ANY shall perish”. So, if anybody tells you you are LESS than a child of God because of your ethnicity, skin color, or background… they are clearly not discerning God word correctly. Pray for them.
Being an Hebrew Israelites is a bloodline birthright. Its like telling a Chinese person they are not Chinese. This is madness and a example of Stockholm Syndrome I wonder if the panel speaks to the Jewish small hats and question their beliefs. 🤦🏽♀️
They are living by a perversion of the Scriptures. If you cling to the Word within its context and within the story of the entire Scriptures you will see the immense error. It is always so unfortunate to see a group have the truth in their hands and still have their hearts hardened towards it.
Thank you for sharing… My husband has been believing this for a couple of years now. However, he does not believe a lot of what most camps do(he’s also not part of a camp). He doesn’t think it’s abomination that we are married. He believes Jesus is the Messiah and that obedience of the law is not done to gain salvation, but as an act of love towards God. Initially, we fought a lot because I kept telling him that my identity in God/Christ is all that I care about.That I don’t care if I’m a Hebrew. He would get incredible defensive and feel a certain way so I tried to change my approach. To be honest, this is one of the hardest times I’ve gone through in my marriage… he doesn’t yell at people and he’s actually becoming more patient and loving as a husband and father… I wrestle so much with “Am I deceived or is he deceived?” I also wrestle with wanting to be a respectful and submissive wife without losing myself or my prompting of His Spirit… I just need prayer… I’ve been praying for 2 years on this now.. we have 4 kids and I don’t want them to be confused. I’m continuing to trust in God, but for as much as He speaks to me, He seems silent on this issue… thanks again for sharing.
Great testimony sister. My Elders gave wisdom on marriages like yours & you got it down. Patience. What God has put together let no man separate. From what you said, y'all faith isn't that far off. He cares more about the whole truth rather than half of it. Remember, Satan gave half truths to Eve & lied about the rest. It's not evil to believe in all prophecies by proven prophets like Moses, Jeremiah, Malachi etc... It's not evil to keep the law which is for your righteousness you have in Christ. Last point, if anyone can think of a nation outside of Israel, that would take that nation's sacred text, & teach it with integrity, you're deceiving yourself. Great testimony sis. Shalom. Rise Israel.
Shalam Sis, Hello I just want to say the WORD SAYS STUDY TO SHOW THYSELF APPROVED He that hath ears to hear let them hear, He that hath eyes to see let them see My advice to you is take your time and read and study 2-3 Chapters a day in the book of the LORD let him speak to your spirit PRAY and seek Wisdom and Understanding, He is already speaking to you but you need to take the RED PILL and get out the Matrix, the red pill is the BIBLE seek the SPIRIT of Truth and see what the book has to say, rather than man also as your learning the book, learn with with your children seek out of the book of the LORD and read May YAH BLESS YOU WITH HIS KNOWLEDGE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING!!!
"And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham." -Jesus these "hebrew" people are doing the opposite of what Jesus taught in Matthew 3. beware...
@@brettnelius8659 Not us all. Gotta have some integrity. There's so much positives to mention, as Christians, I'd expect more than a 100% negative perspective of Israelite ministries. To be frank, that's how the devil operates. Job was a man of integrity, all the devil did was speak ill of him, nothing positive. What's the difference with this Cultish or yourself as others also do as the devil do?
@@guynsly1210 your problem is with what Jesus said not me. Revelation 12 says satan is an accuser of the brothers of Christ. You've just accused us of not having integrity when responding to Jesus' words about the worthlessness of nationality and bloodlines. you're in a bad spot man...
The Jews for Jesus organization is the best known in modern times. The messianic jewish movement is escalating for over a hundred years now. The bible says about the end times that the gentile converts will cause jews to have jealousy to the gospel because of their zeal for God. The messianic ministries in israel are multipling every year. More and more Jews are embracing yeshua Jesus as their messiah Lord and savior.
Prepare for things to get even brighter, pretty soon you will start to see the flaws in reformed Protestant theology too. I’m so grateful that God is able to keep us as He shepherds us as we grow. The will of God is that we will simply be followers of Christ, obedient to His teachings. Grace and peace to all that love the Lord Jesus Christ
@@guynsly1210 GOCC is a cult that teaches hate , division , anger and racism and like every other Black Hebrew Israelite group , they twist the Bible to indoctrinate people into their evil and wicked beliefs . It's pretty clear these people teach a false gospel , a false Christ and a false God , they belong to their father the Devil .
Im rolling around with laughter. There is absolutely no debunking here I Mean Zero Zero Zero. Praise the MH for using you to just increase the footprint of the GOCC and the Truth. We are very very close to the End
The video is called talking to Hebrew Israelites, not debunking Hebrew Israelites... The end? They've been saying that for centuries now... This is only the beginning of Christ' rule 👍
@@Oscardunlap Well you didnt even show how to do that in this video.You didnt bring ANY scripture in detail.....But hey go ahead.You not gong against Israelites but Against TMH...lets see how this all end for you and your lies...Not out fault that because of a Offense ( You believing in flat earth) that you felt a certain way..Did you tell them that ?? of course not... OAN tell the host having a skull shirt and a Ahnk tatoo makes him loose crediblity :-)
@@brochaanakayahawadahyashar6459 if you don't like the podcast, don't watch it. That's simple. That said, I didn't stop believing Hebrew Israelite false doctrine because of some flat earth nonsense. The shape of the earth is irrelevant to ones salvation. Tell me, according to Gocc how is one saved? And according to Gocc was Jesus created? If you can answer those two questions honestly, then you you'll know why God pulled me away. So can you answer those questions?
@@Oscardunlap ALSO you cant use Paul's writings out of CONTEXT when you have to know WHO he was speaking too..The Epistles were letters to the Leaders of the churches HE established..Funny you dont bring up James or peter's epistles..Maybe because they addressed to the 12 tribes scattered perhaps?? hahaha....Yeah we done here.You have a blessed day brother !!
Why come here? The Real Gathering of Christ Church is on their channel. Dont let Satan fool you this guy is Satan. The Black guy is just a Pawn. No one ever reads a Bible. This is Satans deception. If you cant ask the Elders but ask a nobody you will see this guy dont know what he is talking about. Its not a Cult. Its an Awakening. You cant stop The Most High. This guy never picked up a Bible. How much did you pay Judas?
@Sistah Shay “And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.” - Revelation 5:13 (KJV) We worship the Triune God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
@@Oscardunlap Elder has many videos speaking to Christians directly. Where are Cultish's one's? At least have one or two come on. Please set up a meeting with an actual Israelite Teacher. Then we can hear what you are saying.
Will you sit down with Elder Rawchaa, since you can defend the pagan modern christianity doctrine so well and know exactly what to do when questioned by Hebrew Israelites? Brothers never pulled out the bible once tho😂😂. I never seen dude at one passover, or tabernacle, he had no pictures to prove his membership. Anyway, In a nutshell dude said you don't have to keep the law but my favorite thing about modern christianity is they always talk about "the law" but what law? The law of sacrifice, the law of just weights, the law of sin & death, marriage laws, civil laws etc or the 10 commandments law that Christ made 2 laws/commandments in Matth 22:35-40. Christ himself said "On these two commandments, hang ALL THE LAW & THE PROPHETS". Romans 13:8 tells you what laws/commandments you keep when you love your neighbors and guess what they're all in the "old testament" so is the 1st & greatest commandment which is found in Deut 6:5. He also said that Israelites believe in gaining salvation by being justified by "the law" but again what "law", but I digress, simply to understand our view on salvation turn to Revelation 14:12 we practice to have the patience of the saints therefore you must have the two qualities mentioned in that scripture. There are a marid of scriptures that are in the bible I could pull to support keeping the commandments and having faith. But the real question is, if you really believe that we are a cult & you can defend the pagan sunday doctrine why don't you have a sit down with Elder Rawchaa?
James White has a book called “The Forgotten Trinity.” Also, Walter Martin wrote “Jehovah of the Watchtower” refuting Jehovah Witnesses. Both will greatly help and are fun to read.
Want to thank you for using this platform for spreading the Gospel of Yashayah Christ.As His coming draws near we will need more hands on deck. I have done three Academys already and plan to do anothet shortly.I have learnt so much more in those few Academy Classes then more than fifty years going to Church every week.So thanks again.Great job.
@@kathleenking47 Jesus is black. The blacks in America who went through slavery are the people of the book. Revelation 1:15-17 so you need to explain His wooly hair and His burnished bronze black skin. Please tell me who the people in Israel are right now? Get ready to kiss the feet of the black King. I’m a China man and I’ve been blessed with this knowledge. You need that racist spirit to leave you in the name of Yashua Hamashiach!
So ??? Jesus was arrested by Roman soldiers, there was no Roman soldiers in Africa.All the physical evidences of Christianity are mostly in the Middle East. Princess Helena ( mother of Emperor Constantin) raised a church in all these places
Pastor Durbin or anyone at Apologia, public schools taught me - well didn’t teach me nor reference the Torah and how far back it was dated to, 4000+ years if I’m correct? We were taught the first ever record of human civilization was the ancient Samaritans of Egypt setting home upon the Fertile Crescent between the Euphrates and Tigris rivers. We were taught the first record of literature was cuneiform, still completely disregarding the Torah. Maybe somewhere I’m lost but I think a good history lesson/presentation series would be beneficial to us all. TIA stay blessed fam
The oldest fragments of the Torah are from 200-300 BC, although most scholars suggest that the sources which were ultimately compiled into the Torah were likely composed in 600-700 BC. That's a long time ago, but not as long as the histories of Egypt, China, India, etc.
2Thessalonians 1:6 KJV: " Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you". (Jeremiah 50:29, Proverbs 11:31). Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Ellen g white the founder and her chronies denied the trinity to start but eventually, some sda came to accept the trinity while there are still branches today who reject it. And they teach that Sunday worship is the Mark and they hold on to keeping the Jwish Saturday sabbath. They also teach that Michael the arch angel is Jesus. The Jehovah’s Witness cult was started by former sda followers.
@@johnle231 thank you man :) I came out of the sda church last year, their doctrines are very subtle, how they get people to think legalistically, very much like the Hebrew israelities, not to mention the way they put Jesus and satan on the same footing, they've also got very strange ideas about aliens! Think it would be good for people to see an episode on them. Thanks for replying John! God bless.
@@johnle231 they just said Father, Son, Holy Spirit, never mentioned the Trinity or taught anything on it. They also taught it was satan that bore our sins, and that Jesus isn't seated at the right hand of the Father, He is making sacrifices in the outer temple in Heaven. The main focus was on getting people into the church, no spiritual discernment or conviction of sin.
@@Ravenclaw2332 we sing a hym. Holy Holy Holy. Where the line says "God in 3 persons blessed Trinity. " we believe in the Trinity but off shoot churches don't. 7th day Adventist depends on finding a good church with leard men and women. We tend to know our Bible's.
I pray for you all that are apart of this cult. Your doctrine contradicts the word of God. When someone turns in repentance and faith to Christ they are born again (Acts 3:19; Acts 11:18; Ephesians 2:8-10; Romans 3:28; Ephesians 2:8-10; John 6:29). Hating sin and seeking to obey God. It’s by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone that we can be saved. Stop spreading lies that contradict God’s word. Your conduct does not reflect how God’s word commands Christians to live. You cuss people out on street corners. You think salvation is only limited to so called “hebrew Israelites.” It reminds of when Jesus quoted Isaiah when speaking to the Pharisees and He said, “These people honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.” This is what your conduct shows. Explain why Paul wanted King Agrippa (an Edomite) to become a follower of Christ. Your response that these “Gentiles” are just Hellenistic Jews is futile. There is no evidence to back up that claim. I say this out of love and for everyone in this group to come to know the one true triune God. May the Lord open your eyes and please look into the scriptures I have pasted below. The problem is not claiming to be a Hebrew Israelites but holding on to the heretical doctrine that comes with it is where the problem is. Again, I say this out of love and I am praying for you. “that the Christ must suffer and that, by being the first to rise from the dead, he would proclaim light both to our people and to the Gentiles.”” Acts 26:23 “And Agrippa said to Paul, “In a short time would you persuade me to be a Christian?” And Paul said, “Whether short or long, I would to God that not only you but also all who hear me this day might become such as I am-except for these chains.”” Acts 26:28-29 “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” Matthew 28:19 “But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.” Titus 3:9
I agree, they should be doing lots on Islam and Roman Catholicism. Just because they’re the largest cults and have radicals in them doesn’t mean we should avoid them out of the fear of backlash
@@finnz7786 No. An example of a cult would be a belief system that claims it is Christian but teaches doctrine that is contradictory to Christian doctrine
If James white really knew Hebrew he wouldn’t still be saying “yahweh” the Canaanite God… it’s comical the Yiddish he teaches is not Hebrew. But Christians will believe anything even in Santa claus
it was hilarious. but in all seriousness we need to pay for our lost brothers and sisters to know Christ truly.in Yeshuas mighty name i pray the all know the gospel of grace
My future brother in law is Hebrew Israelite. He follows the teaching from the man that was on with James White. We’ve had conversations but anytime I quote anything Paul wrote he completely dismisses Paul. It’s like he believes Paul went on his own tangent and he’s not credible. How can I have more fruitful conversations?
So Stephanie no lie there’s some sections of Hebrew Israelites that believe that Apostle Paul’s Philosophy Of The Gospel is wrong due to the fact of times he spoke about Slavery (Weird but True)
One of their arguments is Paul’s letters were just letters and not scripture. Well, the verse the gentleman 👆 cited is perfect in response to that. 2peters 3:15-16, where we see Peter validate the truth of Paul’s letters and affirms it being scripture.
Another thing is that the apostles stood in support of Paul, not the opposite. Like how we see in acts 15 that the church elders and the apostles all stood in agreement that the mosaic law has passed and should not be forced upon the gentiles. Which is a teaching that is often seen in Paul’s writings. (Hebrew Israelites are taught the mosaic law is still in effect)
also 2timothy 3:16 Where it says ALL SCRIPTURE is from God. So to deny Paul is to deny God. Plus, the possible implications that could stem from the one teaching that Paul’s writings are not inspired could lead people to believe that other parts of bible or even all of it is false or corrupted.
@@mrhartley85 yes that's true it is part of our anatomy which the Most High God created. But we know in reality the the skull is used in the wrong way meaning on the dark side and it is demonic! That's just my opinion.
@@mrhartley85God also made reproductive organs but why would a Christian wear a t-shirt depicting them? There should be a clear distinction between the clean and unclean (Ezekiel 22:26 (KJV))
Really great video, and I'm only halfway through. Not that any person of the Hebrew Israelite persuasion would ever listen to me, since I am "white" and female.
Everyone wants to be a Jew but no one wants to go into slavery. The real Jews went into slavery, Genesis 15:13 and Jesus mentions it in Luke 21:21-24 What should happen to the people that enslaved the Jews? Joel 3:1-21, Obadiah 1-21, Mal 1:2-4, Isaiah 51:22-23 Sorry!
The Bible says " by one man sin entered the world (Adam) and by one man obedience many shall be made righteous ( Jesus) so salvation it is about all men. One of the reasons God used Israelites is to bring salvation to all men trough Jesus. Jn 3v16 God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life. God said in Genesis all the nations of the world will be blessed trough Abraham.
I don’t understand why you speak about someone and attempt to tell others how and what that person thinks/believes. Rather than actually speak to the man. Unless your intent is to lie and deceive. Then the cowardly production would make perfect sense.
Ask Elder Rawchaa how much he charges his "Israelites" to pay for this false doctrine. He won't sit and talk with anyone without the right amount of money. GOCC is about that 🤑💰🤑
I think a lot of The Word is used by flesh to discount those we disagree with. As well as to leaven our own iniquity. Search your hearts, minds, & souls. Pray for wisdom. May His children seek His face.
A huge part who read the bible, do not seek truth from above but rather use their own thoughts to corrupt. Hence why so many people reject the gospel of Jesus Christ.
A guy involved in the bhi sects is like a guy who does a carjacking at gunpoint and as soon as you get away from the scene and have the car back at the chop shop, you have convinced yourself that not only are you the rightful owner of that car, but you actually believe that you yourself are now the original inventor of the automobile. You've become Karl Benz, just by carjacking someone at gunpoint. 😆
Believer here who taught himself Hebrew. I'm curious on Oscar's claim that God created all things using the Hebrew Language. What evidence and scripture does he have to support that claim?
It really bothers me that they’re specifically coming at “black” guys. Honestly this doesn’t make me want to sign up to be a Christian because you can see the bias and the attempt to convert “black” people to Christianity. But with other people who are even more radical they’re not in a cult and we just aren’t going to cover them. This doesn’t come off as real.
Check out more of their videos on Cultish, they cover 7 day Adventist, Mormons, and I think Islam, but they don't discriminate just look for more of their videos. Take care
What I see👀 and are big 🚩🚩 is two men who agree with each other discussing others who wouldn’t agree with them whom are not present to represent themselves; spending 50+ minutes speaking of scripture with only a few scriptures being presented discussing the faults of others interpretation of scripture while subtly offering their own interpretations when🧐🤔😐- 2Peter 1:20- Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 1Peter 4:11- If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
The 12 tribes of Jacob, not involving a black nation. I'm an israelite or seed of Abraham, through faith in Christ Jesus alone .. not by flesh and blood . Check the bible
@ 42mins you guys lie on us I'm gocc Dallas they still eat chicken I don't, They say amen we say selah but I'm not with the church actively but they don't narrate our thinking
I understand the Cult part but what's wrong with someone knowing their identity. I'm African American right and African be like what part of Africa you from. What do I say I'm American. We save by faith as well. But Jesus says you love me keep my commandments. Revelation 14:12 Here the patient of the saints they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus! Scripture is plan!
@@Oscardunlap I'm not saying that but if he say he going save a people that been scattered? And of course everyone who believes In him. It makes you wonder. We have to act God is this little God His word is his word and he do have a remnant of chosen people. Read ezkiel 37 my brother?
Why don't they invite former Catholics? The last debate Dr. James had with a Catholic he suppose lost. Also, what's with the tattoos? Are tattoos acceptable in Apologia?
@@guynsly1210 Tattoos are not sinful. Some Christians just prefer not to get them. You should get tattoos that are honoring to God and not in rebellious fashion
@@salvadorreyes1337 It's painfully apparent, I seen a video of apologist eating squid. It doesn't impact them that eating God's creation that isn't made for eating is wrong. All beast & creation untouched by mankind stick to their ordained diet, except for man. It's wild, but true. If they were tested with torture, to choose between that or eating swine's flesh, they'd clearly feast before standing stiffly for God's dietary law.
@10:18 misinformation, never in that commercial will you hear Elder Rawchaa say "My specific way" anything. This is why I say not only the brother, but also this guy the host, is without integrity. @10:46 More absence of integrity, the Elders of GOCC, repeatedly state, they don't have all the information, they have videos they put out stating corrections they've received from others about certain teachings that they were doing. Growth, this is the aspect that some people who leaves the ministry will not acknowledge. One of the red flags to know if you're in a cult, if the person(s) is an infallible leader(ship) meaning; nothing they say or ever do is ever wrong. Elders at GOCC are spilling out of their own mouths their faults, they've made mistakes, the misinformation that's coming from this little interview, can't be seen if you have a desire for something you don't believe in to be evil, no matter what. Doesn't that sound infallible? Therefore, his comparisons to the prophets of Mormonism and the Catholic priests infallibility with GOCC leadership are unbecoming. @11:24 "Only His people (Israelites) can interpret scripture" is a false statement, which is out of context. Looking at reality, out of all nations out of all ministries that have a particular nation dominance in their church, which of them is using this form of "the Bible interprets itself type of teaching?" Throughout history in our era, what nation is preaching the gospel using precept upon precept, context within context, every false way is a lie other than the precepts written in the Bible? Who else what other nation is using this method, if anybody has that information that'd be great to share. Because if you don't, it is a fact, it is a fact that those of us that realize we're Israelites, is using this method that the Bible interprets itself. That, is a fact! In no way shape or form, are we stating, in my opinion, that only the nation of Israel can interpret the Bible. If that's true then it is counterproductive. What I mean is this, if we're teaching the book to gentile, and we use this method, they wouldn't be able to use that method, it would be pointless to teach them using this method since they can't use it according to Oscar Dunlap, it is a faulty accusation completely flaccious. Again, the absence of integrity is astounding. Towards the end of his statement, he spoke some truth, what I've learned from the devil, in order to tell a lie you got to have some truth to it, otherwise it's going to sound completely unbelievable. That is the best form of lying. In my opinion it works more than 50% of the time. Mainstream media use it all the time, until we realize some parts of it were lies some parts of it were not. They use it in imageries etc... @12:39 with the GOCC, it's not about identity, it's about Christ literally all about Christ. But when it comes to desires, the truth is irrelevant, more focus on the negativity with other ministries that have issues with deviating from identity to the blood of Christ, the ministry that is being promoted on this particular interview, is the GOCC. A lot of things are going to be misconceived, simply because the host, and the interviewee are not making those differentiations. Same thing again, integrity is voided here. @13:22 I believe all Israelite ministries do this, where in order to rebuke and refute a particular teaching that comes from Christianity or any other religion, we go to scripture to defeat that particular teaching. So in order to refute, virgin birth, immaculate conception and incarnation, we go to the scripture to do that. The method that he's using, literally all in my opinion, all Israelite ministries use the same method. I'm from one ministry, so within the ministry I'm in GOCC, we will stick to the 66 books to refute any teachings. Only the teachings that are false. @13:36, with the gathering of Christ Church, GOCC, I know for an absolute fact, that no teacher teaches, that the law exonerates your sins. Now, I say it like that, to make it clear, it is a straw man fallacy to state that anyone who teaches the law is automatically teaching that you need to keep the law to get salvation. That is so fallacious, it makes my head spin when people don't grasp that insane concept when they hear somebody say, you got to keep the law of Moses. In that statement alone, is very vague, there's more details to that. So judging that statement by just hearing it by itself, without hearing the explanation, and then jumping to this false conclusion, oh he's saying that in order to get salvation I got to keep the law. Nobody ever said that. It is a stupid argument, a better and healthy conversation can happen when somebody says we got to keep the law of Moses. @14:01 in the scenario that he's giving, it sounds like he's leading this opponent that he's talking to into a persuasion, that his opponent doesn't even stand on. That is some psychological crazed dialogue. To able to twist someone's mind into thinking they need to defend something they don't believe, or more importantly they don't even realize they don't believe, that is some new stuff, new level, wait wait, that's called a strawman fallacy, speak with opposition ask questions with opposition. Don't make up in opposition, and then ask your opposer to defend that stance they never made. @14:10 Christ works isn't finished, that's the first time I'm hearing this. I've been in this church for about 2 to 3 years. Let's be clear, and Luke I believe chapter 4, beginning at verse 17, he read Isaiah 61:1, if you go to Isaiah 61:1, you'll see he didn't finish that verse. There's still something else he got to do cuz that verse concerns him, he finished what he needed to do on earth, when he comes back he has unfinished business. That part comes later, so there's a whole teaching with the words that come out of Christ's mouth I believe in the book of John, it is finished. An entire teaching gentiles have came up with that one verse. More importantly, there's nothing that Israelites need to add to his work, anything concerning Christ, he did that himself, anything concerning Christ is servants, we got the work to do that he has, like the gentiles would say, commissioned us to do. He started with Israelites, it's going to end with Israelites. From what I'm seeing that's how it is, whether anyone likes it or not, even if it's not an Israelite using the book reading the book to teach the book in real time, the book that they're reading is taught by an Israelite written by an Israelite, no matter what no matter who's holding the book in Israelite is always teaching, the thing is, is the person teaching, teaching what the Israelites is teaching with integrity. What he said following this statement is a question, what is the purpose of the law. The simple answer that his opposer gave, is that we obey it, another simple answer is, because it's life. That never changed, anyone who got this far, you might be thinking Christ is life, that's also true, simplicity of the law is life is also true. That's written in the word, that can't be refuted. @16:02 His statement on genealogies, I believe is written in Timothy, I believe in my opinion, that it was talking about people who would say that their great-grandfather was the great prophet Isaiah, that's my genealogy, so you should respect what I'm telling you. Others would say oh my great-grandfather was the prophet Malachi or the prophet Habakkuk etc I believe this is the reason why the rebuke was written in the letter. @16:09 through curses written in Deuteronomy 28 is how we know who is who according to the tow truck of Israel. It's not necessarily through who your father is, That was poorly explained coming from a person who's supposed to know this stuff. I stopped at 17, the assessment the host made was ridiculous. If all of this doesn't make it I'm just going to state something simple, like, if you're watching this interview, look at it as half-truth, a lot of the details explain here is very vague the comparisons are vague, if you want the cold hard facts, just talk to one of the leaderships within any of these ministries. The ministry that's being promoted on here mostly GOCC, do you own research. I'd start with the TV show called Explained watch episode cults. It's free on UA-cam.
Turned off the video at 17:33 after the lost/missing father talk. Disgusting rhetoric. If this is how the Christian church views those outside of their beliefs, I want no part.
@@kg00d04 The comparison to gangs, the missing father part, it's just a bad assessment. Scripture literally say we have one Father who is in heaven. Thier determination to make what the Israelite ministries are to be a very negative thing, is extremely unwell. It's like every 5 minutes they're telling some type of fallacy. It's wild.
. Matthew 26:7-13= listen&obey JUSTLY like this woman did. God bless everybody real Good, more in&by Jesus !!! Yes&amen, We agree with all Good prayers, so be it & thank you Jesus !!! Ha.Ha.Ha, Hallelujah, Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha
The Bible says to test all things. What are the fruits of the spirit? Kindness is one. They do not show kindness. Just watch they can't go five minutes without being unkind. It's the biggest TELL!!! No Jesus Christ there! No Holy Spirit! Also if it doesn't sound like GOOD NEWS it's not the Good News... Just saying. Jesus Christ is the Lord to the Glory of the Father for all who are near and to all that are far off. Jesus Christ came to set the captive free. Keep getting right with Jesus Christ Amen
The Bible is strong about boasting not against the natural branches which most of you easily violate to even about Israelites. Israelites hardly see many of you practice what you preach which ironically was to help Israelites in wanting to be saved in Roman 11. One of the fruits of the spirit is long suffering and how many of you even show that?!! And it is no wonder a remnant make it
Why didn't you bring on the elders of the gathering of Christ Church to discuss them, using their commercial you know you can get sued for that, did you get their permission, the most high will use this to gather more of his people, shalom!!!
@@Oscardunlap funny how I'm NOT with GOCC but called out your disingenuous spirit weeks ago. Now you've gotten the limelight that you've been craving. It's pathetic. Like GOCC being stubborn and dishonest with the FIRMAMENT. It's not about the F Earth first. You're being just like them, it's the same unclean spirit that got transmitted to you. SMDH Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. 🔨
I was interviewed by a BI. He said the way to heaven is to follow the law. I asked him if he always followed the law and asked if the law could save, why did Jesus come? He walked away because he didn’t have answers.
This the 3rd video bring Israelite Brothers on the show and bring the Scriptures Israelites don't talk out they belly you wanna prove them wrong do it with Scripture
Whenever I’ve spoken to them, I just ask what material their clothes are made of. They never want to answer, T your point of failing at least 1 law to fail them all.
God created everything and created grace that can't be grasp by how its stronger than flesh and blood can believe it apple all no matter what's believed caused by God. The oldest Devine truth is Imagination being God in man, Psalms 82:1{A Psalm of Asaph.} God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. 2How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. 3Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. 4Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. 5They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. 6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. 8Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
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How do u talk to a Christian? Christianity is thee biggest cult ever on the planet, Christians hate not only the Truth, but they do not actually obey jesus.
On Tik Tok in the past couple of weeks there has been a influx of Hebrew Israelites coming into my feed. Its incredible. I didn’t know how to deal with this and then remembered Cultish. I’ve been watching your podcast on this topic and they are so very helpful in understanding them and how to talk to them. Thank you! ❤
Use the Bible. Remember the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. If you listen to a lot of them speak. They contradict themselves with the Word. Remember only the Gospel can call people out of the darkness. So let the Word speak.
I really needed this. The enemy is so clever. I seen a lot of things of this Hebrew Israelite movement that seemed pure yet I felt a lot of arrogance and racism in it. A lot of condemnation and not the love of Yeshua.
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They cannot and Will not love their enemies as Jesus commanded us. They cuss and spew hatred worse than the pharasees that Jesus condemned
Ya. I met one at my work. He thought he was better than everybody. Telling me, im not a man unless i have a beard. He was racist and disrespectful. I got fired cuz I was gona knock him out. Im not a violent guy. But this guy was so disrespectful.
Yeshua is going to slay his enemy where the love there?
How anyone could believe that you gonna have white slaves in heaven is beyond my comprehension 😂
Glad to have come to this video. Spoke with a young gentleman who the Holy Spirit open my eyes to see that he was Hebrew Israelite. We plan to have coffee and talk more this upcoming week, so I pray the Holy Spirit continues to speak to me, and give me the right words to say.
How did it go?
@@B1055BH I guess the Holy Spirit was protecting me, we never got together for that coffee. 🤷🏽♀️
This Brother will be a crusher of cultic demons in Jesus name 💪 ✝️
This dude will be crushed by the Hebrew/ Israelite Messiah at the end ..he has sold his birthright for European garbage.. Christianity.
This was extremely helpful. I had no idea how to combat this false religion. Glory to God. I wish they would have showed the clips they mentioned.
Wisdom of Solomon 5 1-5 KJVA (see also Isaiah 49, Hosea 1:10)
1 Then shall the righteous man stand in great boldness before the face of such as have afflicted him, and made no account of his labours.
2 When they see it, they shall be troubled with terrible fear, and shall be amazed at the strangeness of his salvation, so far beyond all that they looked for.
3 And they repenting and groaning for anguish of spirit shall say within themselves, This was he, whom we had sometimes in derision, and a proverb of reproach:
4 We fools accounted his life madness, and his end to be without honour:
5 How is he numbered among the children of God, and his lot is among the saints!
Qam Yasharhla
"Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind." Ecclesiastes 12:13
"This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus."
Revelation 14:12
"But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws." Matthew 7:23
19 Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. 20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it- 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (Romans 3:19-23, ESV)
@@Oscardunlap That's an improper rebuke. Paul is preaching Christ, that rebuke is for people who rejects Christ & not the law of Moses. Your fallacy of appealing to authority is wild. The brother quoted scriptures that involves faith in Christ & keeping the law.
@@guynsly1210 This scripture is literally talking about purpose of the law. Just like this one is.
7 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." 8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. 9 I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died. (Romans 7:7-9, ESV)
Do you believe in a Christian that things the law of God is made void? No so. I believe we are saved that we may keep the law, not keepers of the law that we may be saved. You guys have it backward. The root is faith, the fruit is obedience.
@@Oscardunlap You're forcing an argument that's not being made by anybody. You're arguing with yourself. You have a premeditated argument in your mind that you are projecting towards other people. You need to get rid of this delusion, and get on board that we are on the same page. You came from the ministry I came from. We do not teach the law is what gives us salvation. We literally preach Christ, and that's where we get salvation from. Without Christ, there's no salvation. You should have known this, for some reason your integrity is lost and limbo, and you don't want it back. You keep saying y'all, yet you know I'm from GOCC. Cuz I've told you. And you came from there, so I know you're lying. Repent. That scripture you quoted is a double edge sword. If you don't feel sorrow, You're long gone. May God have mercy on you.
No one has ever done it right but one. His name his Jesus n u need His righteousness not your own.
I'm so excited for this one guys!
What resources like books , sources or material that is reliable that you suggest that I read for church history etc
Why should it matter to you? Stick to your belief and don’t worry about someone else’s. Just because you have a ex black Hebrew Israelite on your platform doesn’t make what you saying right.
Because his master is putting a battery in his back…reason he needs a moderator checks and balances
This is why:
I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins." (John 8:24, ESV)
Those who are not in Christ have God's wrath abiding on them. I speak out because I am commanded to and in hope that God might save some of those who are lost in this false Gospel.
@@Oscardunlap speak out with integrity. It's not that hard.
When it comes to disagreements anybody could speak out on anything. So free country, with free religion. And we have free will which is God given. Therefore a person can't speak on matters that they disagree with. Yet they must do it with integrity, because without that, is just one sided story, a he say she say, not really getting down to the issues that concerns said person that is speaking on it. This is an informative testimony, of alleged teachings coming from the ministry he left. Anyone who regurgitates what he said about said ministry, and they're saying it as it's facts, is a victim of genetic fallacy. It's like the rumor that went around saying that King James slept with his mother or that he was a sodomite. There's no proof of that, it's only being spoken by word of mouth. That right there is bearing false witness, Therefore people should be careful how they speak on other people or other ministries. Get your facts straight, after you hear the alleged testimonies, do your own research. These ministries are not hiding themselves, like real cults do, they websites, they have FAQs on their websites, check them out. Last time I referred people to the website, my comment was deleted. I assume this would be as well if not, oh well.
That dude a Hamite he’s not a brother I could tell who my people 💯
I’m here for this series. Let us pray for all these lost people.
Hey, could you reach out to those guys in the opening video? Who are they? I’d like to see their point.
Agathering144 is thier youtube. They are live now on thier channel
@@Healingthroughrighteousness oh wow, thanks! I’m going to go check them out, thanks for responding! So what are they about, do you know?
@@shamachelonsearch James White vs Hebrew Israelite. You’re welcome!
Thank you for loving those rebelliously entertaining deceptive cults by giving them THE truth. Warriors! Don’t stop what you’re doing. God’s using you to encourage more to do so!
No truth was spread. All lies.
Also the apologetic faith never seem to have a problem with the jew-wish ( white / red people ) who have been calling themselves Gods chosen people since any of us can remember but when brown/black people come to take their rightful place as the true Israelites all of a sudden here comes apologetic faith.
Amen brother very true indeed 🙏🏾
We don't care who they are or anyone else. What matters is do you know who Christ bis according to the scriptures.
@@Oscardunlap I know my saviour the Lion of the tribe of Judah, according to scripture came for the lost sheep of the house Israel. The one who said you love me keep my commandments! Come brother don't come for me shabbat Shalom Family 🙏🏾
Yeah that is hypocritical, and they reject Christ. I should see more videos of Jewish people than I should of Israelites.
@Aron TB Suchkind ✊🏻💪🏻
this video needs more likes and views.
This is was totally opinion base no scripture at all!
As for eye salve that you may see......then get saved. Nothing but humility will stand before God. All religious Pride will fall and fade away to the lake of fire at the judgement. It will not matter what heritage, color,church, doctrine,creed or anything else you try to hide behind. It didn't work for the pharasees who were of "Abraham's seed" ...and "kept the commandments" and it won't for the BHI. Get out of this cult and find Christ almighty.
The rock in the shoe analogy evangelism analogy is from Greg Koukl.
Hebrew Israelites are not the only ones. There’s are many many cults, sects, etc… that claim “WE are the true people of God, everyone else are false teachers”… It’s a VERY common practice. Gods word is clear about Salvation being for “whoever shall receive” or “any who come” and “anyone who knocks, the door will be open” …of God is “not willing that ANY shall perish”. So, if anybody tells you you are LESS than a child of God because of your ethnicity, skin color, or background… they are clearly not discerning God word correctly. Pray for them.
Yes whosoever of the children of Israel not whosoever of humanity.
Rightfully deciding the word.
Deviding
Being an Hebrew Israelites is a bloodline birthright. Its like telling a Chinese person they are not Chinese. This is madness and a example of Stockholm Syndrome I wonder if the panel speaks to the Jewish small hats and question their beliefs. 🤦🏽♀️
That can be debated. 🤨
@@cececarter3807 it can't, God literally is responsible for dividing mankind into nations, He created bloodline.
@@guynsly1210 that’s not what I was referring to. I was referring to the first sentence of her comment-it can be debated.
@@cececarter3807 Then I said it well.
@@guynsly1210 as did I.
I'm still trying to grasp how living by the scriptures is cultish.....
They are living by a perversion of the Scriptures. If you cling to the Word within its context and within the story of the entire Scriptures you will see the immense error.
It is always so unfortunate to see a group have the truth in their hands and still have their hearts hardened towards it.
Thank you for sharing…
My husband has been believing this for a couple of years now. However, he does not believe a lot of what most camps do(he’s also not part of a camp). He doesn’t think it’s abomination that we are married. He believes Jesus is the Messiah and that obedience of the law is not done to gain salvation, but as an act of love towards God. Initially, we fought a lot because I kept telling him that my identity in God/Christ is all that I care about.That I don’t care if I’m a Hebrew. He would get incredible defensive and feel a certain way so I tried to change my approach. To be honest, this is one of the hardest times I’ve gone through in my marriage… he doesn’t yell at people and he’s actually becoming more patient and loving as a husband and father… I wrestle so much with “Am I deceived or is he deceived?” I also wrestle with wanting to be a respectful and submissive wife without losing myself or my prompting of His Spirit… I just need prayer… I’ve been praying for 2 years on this now.. we have 4 kids and I don’t want them to be confused. I’m continuing to trust in God, but for as much as He speaks to me, He seems silent on this issue… thanks again for sharing.
Great testimony sister. My Elders gave wisdom on marriages like yours & you got it down. Patience. What God has put together let no man separate. From what you said, y'all faith isn't that far off. He cares more about the whole truth rather than half of it. Remember, Satan gave half truths to Eve & lied about the rest. It's not evil to believe in all prophecies by proven prophets like Moses, Jeremiah, Malachi etc... It's not evil to keep the law which is for your righteousness you have in Christ. Last point, if anyone can think of a nation outside of Israel, that would take that nation's sacred text, & teach it with integrity, you're deceiving yourself. Great testimony sis. Shalom. Rise Israel.
Shalam Sis,
Hello I just want to say the WORD SAYS STUDY TO SHOW THYSELF APPROVED He that hath ears to hear let them hear, He that hath eyes to see let them see My advice to you is take your time and read and study 2-3 Chapters a day in the book of the LORD let him speak to your spirit PRAY and seek Wisdom and Understanding, He is already speaking to you but you need to take the RED PILL and get out the Matrix, the red pill is the BIBLE seek the SPIRIT of Truth and see what the book has to say, rather than man also as your learning the book, learn with with your children seek out of the book of the LORD and read May YAH BLESS YOU WITH HIS KNOWLEDGE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING!!!
"And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham." -Jesus
these "hebrew" people are doing the opposite of what Jesus taught in Matthew 3. beware...
@@brettnelius8659 Not us all. Gotta have some integrity. There's so much positives to mention, as Christians, I'd expect more than a 100% negative perspective of Israelite ministries. To be frank, that's how the devil operates. Job was a man of integrity, all the devil did was speak ill of him, nothing positive. What's the difference with this Cultish or yourself as others also do as the devil do?
@@guynsly1210 your problem is with what Jesus said not me.
Revelation 12 says satan is an accuser of the brothers of Christ. You've just accused us of not having integrity when responding to Jesus' words about the worthlessness of nationality and bloodlines. you're in a bad spot man...
Being a hebrew Israelite is not a religion it's a nation of people #bloodline.
Nah black hebrews are defia cult dude
Wrong. It's a cult.
God bless your evangelism to speak truth. The Lord is with you. Matthew28::20
Are there plans to make a video on how to talk to Jews and refute the Jewish religion and convert them to Christ?
Waiting for oscar to comment here
Some jews are coming to Yeshua, and going to messianic congregations
I've been to a few
@@kathleenking47 That's great!
The Jews for Jesus organization is the best known in modern times. The messianic jewish movement is escalating for over a hundred years now. The bible says about the end times that the gentile converts will cause jews to have jealousy to the gospel because of their zeal for God. The messianic ministries in israel are multipling every year. More and more Jews are embracing yeshua Jesus as their messiah Lord and savior.
Amen!
Prepare for things to get even brighter, pretty soon you will start to see the flaws in reformed Protestant theology too.
I’m so grateful that God is able to keep us as He shepherds us as we grow.
The will of God is that we will simply be followers of Christ, obedient to His teachings.
Grace and peace to all that love the Lord Jesus Christ
I don't care what tribe you think you belong to , if you are not born again there is no salvation .
Put that on repeat.
GOCC literally teaches that. For the fact that you don't know that bro, shows the lack of integrity you hold to.
@@guynsly1210 GOCC is a cult that teaches hate , division , anger and racism and like every other Black Hebrew Israelite group , they twist the Bible to indoctrinate people into their evil and wicked beliefs . It's pretty clear these people teach a false gospel , a false Christ and a false God , they belong to their father the Devil .
Although that's true, you can't reject the tribes. Even our Lord is a part of Judah.
@@KeithN87Most Christians believe Israel is trash or at least inferior. Therefore they believe the tribe of Jesus is a non factor.
AHayah is calling Isreal!! Leave the Gathering Of Christ Church alone. Work on your own soul salvation!!
u still in gocc when u keep the doctrines u learned from Rawchaa, especially when u use the name he gave u, smh
Im rolling around with laughter.
There is absolutely no debunking here I Mean Zero Zero Zero.
Praise the MH for using you to just increase the footprint of the GOCC and the Truth.
We are very very close to the End
The video is called talking to Hebrew Israelites, not debunking Hebrew Israelites... The end? They've been saying that for centuries now... This is only the beginning of Christ' rule 👍
@@Oscardunlap Well you didnt even show how to do that in this video.You didnt bring ANY scripture in detail.....But hey go ahead.You not gong against Israelites but Against TMH...lets see how this all end for you and your lies...Not out fault that because of a Offense ( You believing in flat earth) that you felt a certain way..Did you tell them that ?? of course not... OAN tell the host having a skull shirt and a Ahnk tatoo makes him loose crediblity :-)
@@brochaanakayahawadahyashar6459 if you don't like the podcast, don't watch it. That's simple. That said, I didn't stop believing Hebrew Israelite false doctrine because of some flat earth nonsense. The shape of the earth is irrelevant to ones salvation. Tell me, according to Gocc how is one saved? And according to Gocc was Jesus created? If you can answer those two questions honestly, then you you'll know why God pulled me away. So can you answer those questions?
@@Oscardunlap ALSO you cant use Paul's writings out of CONTEXT when you have to know WHO he was speaking too..The Epistles were letters to the Leaders of the churches HE established..Funny you dont bring up James or peter's epistles..Maybe because they addressed to the 12 tribes scattered perhaps?? hahaha....Yeah we done here.You have a blessed day brother !!
Why come here? The Real Gathering of Christ Church is on their channel. Dont let Satan fool you this guy is Satan. The Black guy is just a Pawn. No one ever reads a Bible. This is Satans deception. If you cant ask the Elders but ask a nobody you will see this guy dont know what he is talking about. Its not a Cult. Its an Awakening. You cant stop The Most High. This guy never picked up a Bible. How much did you pay Judas?
We'll speak for ourselves have an audience with the elder
No necessary. Everytime the Hebrews speak about Christians, are Christians present??? Absolutely not. This is a hypocritical statement.
@Sistah Shay lol that's just silly... Like I said, hypocritical.
@Sistah Shay what about it?
@Sistah Shay “And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.”
- Revelation 5:13 (KJV)
We worship the Triune God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
@@Oscardunlap Elder has many videos speaking to Christians directly. Where are Cultish's one's? At least have one or two come on. Please set up a meeting with an actual Israelite Teacher. Then we can hear what you are saying.
Do y'all think Yahushua rise on a Sunday or Saturday? Do you keep the Sabbath or not!
Will keeping the Sabbath save you?
@@Oscardunlap it's the fourth commandment my brother
@@Oscardunlap better question. will WILLINGLY profaning the sabbath condemn you?
Where can we see Oscar engaging with Hebrew Israelites?
There will be much coming soon. I will be starting my own UA-cam channel and podcast discussing this topic and showing footage of me evangelizing.
you won’t or if u do it won’t be someone with high understanding
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@@Oscardunlap hahaha good luck
@@Oscardunlap you are pathetic. Tap dance 🕺
Will you sit down with Elder Rawchaa, since you can defend the pagan modern christianity doctrine so well and know exactly what to do when questioned by Hebrew Israelites? Brothers never pulled out the bible once tho😂😂. I never seen dude at one passover, or tabernacle, he had no pictures to prove his membership. Anyway, In a nutshell dude said you don't have to keep the law but my favorite thing about modern christianity is they always talk about "the law" but what law? The law of sacrifice, the law of just weights, the law of sin & death, marriage laws, civil laws etc or the 10 commandments law that Christ made 2 laws/commandments in Matth 22:35-40. Christ himself said "On these two commandments, hang ALL THE LAW & THE PROPHETS". Romans 13:8 tells you what laws/commandments you keep when you love your neighbors and guess what they're all in the "old testament" so is the 1st & greatest commandment which is found in Deut 6:5. He also said that Israelites believe in gaining salvation by being justified by "the law" but again what "law", but I digress, simply to understand our view on salvation turn to Revelation 14:12 we practice to have the patience of the saints therefore you must have the two qualities mentioned in that scripture. There are a marid of scriptures that are in the bible I could pull to support keeping the commandments and having faith. But the real question is, if you really believe that we are a cult & you can defend the pagan sunday doctrine why don't you have a sit down with Elder Rawchaa?
If he want to, sure. The one condition would be that it must be a respectful dialogue.
I’d love to hear how Oscar explained the Trinity. Seems like something to learn from and may help equip me and others to explain it another way.
James White has a book called “The Forgotten Trinity.” Also, Walter Martin wrote “Jehovah of the Watchtower” refuting Jehovah Witnesses. Both will greatly help and are fun to read.
Agreed
@@Oscardunlap
Do you have email brother?
Want to thank you for using this platform for spreading the Gospel of Yashayah Christ.As His coming draws near we will need more hands on deck. I have done three Academys already and plan to do anothet shortly.I have learnt so much more in those few Academy Classes then more than fifty years going to Church every week.So thanks again.Great job.
You were going to the wrong church obviously.
Praying for you Judy. 🙏
Where is the video of their different clothes color?
Jesus is black! HalleluYah!
Not really..hes middle eastern...
Not white either
I also think, this is a reason, the bible didnt want images, because of arguments
@@kathleenking47 Jesus is black. Get ready to bow to the black King of Kings.
@@ZolaTaTa he looks middle eastern...
@@kathleenking47 Jesus is black. The blacks in America who went through slavery are the people of the book. Revelation 1:15-17 so you need to explain His wooly hair and His burnished bronze black skin. Please tell me who the people in Israel are right now? Get ready to kiss the feet of the black King. I’m a China man and I’ve been blessed with this knowledge. You need that racist spirit to leave you in the name of Yashua Hamashiach!
So ??? Jesus was arrested by Roman soldiers, there was no Roman soldiers in Africa.All the physical evidences of Christianity are mostly in the Middle East. Princess Helena ( mother of Emperor Constantin) raised a church in all these places
Pastor Durbin or anyone at Apologia, public schools taught me - well didn’t teach me nor reference the Torah and how far back it was dated to, 4000+ years if I’m correct?
We were taught the first ever record of human civilization was the ancient Samaritans of Egypt setting home upon the Fertile Crescent between the Euphrates and Tigris rivers. We were taught the first record of literature was cuneiform, still completely disregarding the Torah. Maybe somewhere I’m lost but I think a good history lesson/presentation series would be beneficial to us all. TIA stay blessed fam
The oldest fragments of the Torah are from 200-300 BC, although most scholars suggest that the sources which were ultimately compiled into the Torah were likely composed in 600-700 BC. That's a long time ago, but not as long as the histories of Egypt, China, India, etc.
This was awesome thank you
2Thessalonians 1:6 KJV: " Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you". (Jeremiah 50:29, Proverbs 11:31).
Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
The sword is the true word of God. It can help and cut a person down..its two edged sword
I’d like to see the whole video…that you show on the last part of this video… what’s the title?
I would love to have a discussion with this brother.
It's actually Psalm 50:20. Tighten up there soldier haha. Thanks for the knowledge Oscar. Love ya, B
Psalm 50:21**
“in the Hebrew Israelites for 9 years.”
That shows you have no idea what you’re talking about. As if they’re all one denomination and all alike.
Never claimed that. I spoke regarding my own beliefs. I was a Hebrew Israelite for 9 years.
@@Oscardunlap So do the Hebrew Israelites claim that all of white people go to hell? I'm stuck on this
9 years? Thats longer than highschool and college😂😂😂
Very much enjoyed this, please could you do one on 7th day adventists? Thank you
Ellen g white the founder and her chronies denied the trinity to start but eventually, some sda came to accept the trinity while there are still branches today who reject it.
And they teach that Sunday worship is the Mark and they hold on to keeping the Jwish Saturday sabbath.
They also teach that Michael the arch angel is Jesus.
The Jehovah’s Witness cult was started by former sda followers.
@@johnle231 thank you man :) I came out of the sda church last year, their doctrines are very subtle, how they get people to think legalistically, very much like the Hebrew israelities, not to mention the way they put Jesus and satan on the same footing, they've also got very strange ideas about aliens! Think it would be good for people to see an episode on them. Thanks for replying John! God bless.
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Did they teach trinity in the building that you were apart of
@@johnle231 they just said Father, Son, Holy Spirit, never mentioned the Trinity or taught anything on it. They also taught it was satan that bore our sins, and that Jesus isn't seated at the right hand of the Father, He is making sacrifices in the outer temple in Heaven. The main focus was on getting people into the church, no spiritual discernment or conviction of sin.
@@Ravenclaw2332 we sing a hym. Holy Holy Holy. Where the line says "God in 3 persons blessed Trinity. " we believe in the Trinity but off shoot churches don't. 7th day Adventist depends on finding a good church with leard men and women. We tend to know our Bible's.
All Praises To The Most High for The Gathering Of Christ Church. AHayah is waking up the 12 tribes 💪
I pray for you all that are apart of this cult. Your doctrine contradicts the word of God. When someone turns in repentance and faith to Christ they are born again (Acts 3:19; Acts 11:18; Ephesians 2:8-10; Romans 3:28; Ephesians 2:8-10; John 6:29). Hating sin and seeking to obey God. It’s by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone that we can be saved. Stop spreading lies that contradict God’s word. Your conduct does not reflect how God’s word commands Christians to live. You cuss people out on street corners. You think salvation is only limited to so called “hebrew Israelites.” It reminds of when Jesus quoted Isaiah when speaking to the Pharisees and He said, “These people honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.” This is what your conduct shows. Explain why Paul wanted King Agrippa (an Edomite) to become a follower of Christ. Your response that these “Gentiles” are just Hellenistic Jews is futile. There is no evidence to back up that claim. I say this out of love and for everyone in this group to come to know the one true triune God. May the Lord open your eyes and please look into the scriptures I have pasted below. The problem is not claiming to be a Hebrew Israelites but holding on to the heretical doctrine that comes with it is where the problem is. Again, I say this out of love and I am praying for you.
“that the Christ must suffer and that, by being the first to rise from the dead, he would proclaim light both to our people and to the Gentiles.””
Acts 26:23
“And Agrippa said to Paul, “In a short time would you persuade me to be a Christian?” And Paul said, “Whether short or long, I would to God that not only you but also all who hear me this day might become such as I am-except for these chains.””
Acts 26:28-29
“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
Matthew 28:19
“But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.”
Titus 3:9
No lie Cultish y’all need to interview somebody who was a former Nation Of Islam
I agree, they should be doing lots on Islam and Roman Catholicism. Just because they’re the largest cults and have radicals in them doesn’t mean we should avoid them out of the fear of backlash
@@reetse
Nation of Islam is a bit different from the Middle East Islam
Yes thay would be awesome
Do yal see Christianity as a cult?
@@finnz7786
No. An example of a cult would be a belief system that claims it is Christian but teaches doctrine that is contradictory to Christian doctrine
“I don’t use Strong’s Concordance, I TEACH Hebrew” Yay! I want that on a t-shirt.
Hahaha that was epic!
The word Hebrew derived from eber. Look it up
If James white really knew Hebrew he wouldn’t still be saying “yahweh” the Canaanite God… it’s comical the Yiddish he teaches is not Hebrew. But Christians will believe anything even in Santa claus
@@iamdaniel1263 You are confused.
it was hilarious. but in all seriousness we need to pay for our lost brothers and sisters to know Christ truly.in Yeshuas mighty name i pray the all know the gospel of grace
How do you guys sit there with these headphones on like forever. Awesome conversation guys totally dig it❤️
the headphones aren't heavy. They are perfect for podcasting
At about 5:28 did my man on the left just say "let the Holy Spirit do IT'S work"? Maybe he misspoke but the Holy Spirit isn't an "it". That was weird
It was just a mistake
Romans 8:26 (KJV)
@@dude9318 I did leave room for that possibility. Peace
There are so many commonalities between rastafarians, black muslims, and hebrew israelites.
My future brother in law is Hebrew Israelite. He follows the teaching from the man that was on with James White. We’ve had conversations but anytime I quote anything Paul wrote he completely dismisses Paul. It’s like he believes Paul went on his own tangent and he’s not credible. How can I have more fruitful conversations?
2 Peter 3:15-16
So Stephanie no lie there’s some sections of Hebrew Israelites that believe that Apostle Paul’s Philosophy Of The Gospel is wrong due to the fact of times he spoke about Slavery (Weird but True)
One of their arguments is Paul’s letters were just letters and not scripture.
Well, the verse the gentleman 👆 cited is perfect in response to that.
2peters 3:15-16, where we see Peter validate the truth of Paul’s letters and affirms it being scripture.
Another thing is that the apostles stood in support of Paul, not the opposite.
Like how we see in acts 15 that the church elders and the apostles all stood in agreement that the mosaic law has passed and should not be forced upon the gentiles. Which is a teaching that is often seen in Paul’s writings.
(Hebrew Israelites are taught the mosaic law is still in effect)
also 2timothy 3:16
Where it says ALL SCRIPTURE is from God.
So to deny Paul is to deny God.
Plus, the possible implications that could stem from the one teaching that Paul’s writings are not inspired could lead people to believe that other parts of bible or even all of it is false or corrupted.
SMH!🤦🏽♀️ And what's up with the skull on his T-shirt?
@Sistah Shay Yes it is!
A skull is part of the human anatomy that God made
@@mrhartley85 yes that's true it is part of our anatomy which the Most High God created. But we know in reality the the skull is used in the wrong way meaning on the dark side and it is demonic! That's just my opinion.
The skull refers to the dangers of bad theology
@@mrhartley85God also made reproductive organs but why would a Christian wear a t-shirt depicting them? There should be a clear distinction between the clean and unclean (Ezekiel 22:26 (KJV))
The ancient hebrews were middle eastern Caucasians and their skin tone varied, just as we see today in the middle east
JERY!family of 5.thankyou.
The truth that sets the captive free is recognizing Jesus is the Christ the Son of God!
All who call on the name will be saved according to Yeshua. John 3
Really great video, and I'm only halfway through. Not that any person of the Hebrew Israelite persuasion would ever listen to me, since I am "white" and female.
Everyone wants to be a Jew but no one wants to go into slavery. The real Jews went into slavery, Genesis 15:13 and Jesus mentions it in Luke 21:21-24 What should happen to the people that enslaved the Jews? Joel 3:1-21, Obadiah 1-21, Mal 1:2-4, Isaiah 51:22-23 Sorry!
The Bible says " by one man sin entered the world (Adam) and by one man obedience many shall be made righteous ( Jesus) so salvation it is about all men. One of the reasons God used Israelites is to bring salvation to all men trough Jesus. Jn 3v16 God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life. God said in Genesis all the nations of the world will be blessed trough Abraham.
I don’t understand why you speak about someone and attempt to tell others how and what that person thinks/believes. Rather than actually speak to the man. Unless your intent is to lie and deceive. Then the cowardly production would make perfect sense.
Am not talking about people. I am talking about a false Gospel... There's a difference.
@Oscar Dunlap study more bruh, There are 2 different Gospels in the Bible, u chose the wrong one is all, Repent!
As you heard he was part of black Hebrew israelite
Ask Elder Rawchaa how much he charges his "Israelites" to pay for this false doctrine. He won't sit and talk with anyone without the right amount of money. GOCC is about that 🤑💰🤑
It’s a podcast it’s not that deep
I think a lot of The Word is used by flesh to discount those we disagree with. As well as to leaven our own iniquity. Search your hearts, minds, & souls. Pray for wisdom. May His children seek His face.
A huge part who read the bible, do not seek truth from above but rather use their own thoughts to corrupt. Hence why so many people reject the gospel of Jesus Christ.
A guy involved in the bhi sects is like a guy who does a carjacking at gunpoint and as soon as you get away from the scene and have the car back at the chop shop, you have convinced yourself that not only are you the rightful owner of that car, but you actually believe that you yourself are now the original inventor of the automobile. You've become Karl Benz, just by carjacking someone at gunpoint. 😆
I was in with these people for one year.
You were in with Hebrew Israelites?
But youre white
@@peterhamlet1415 There are tons of hebrew roots type cults out there now many of whom have white people.
Not with GOCC?
Cap
Have an Elder in the interview to get a real understanding. The elders will be the expert not this person they pull out from somewhere.
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This is a live video response of this video.
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Watch it
Seeing this video makes me so happy........
Believer here who taught himself Hebrew. I'm curious on Oscar's claim that God created all things using the Hebrew Language. What evidence and scripture does he have to support that claim?
Elder Lawya is the one that said that. I doubt Oscar would say that. If he did, wow. It's in an extra biblical book.
I'll tell you, I never said that.
@@Oscardunlap Okay my bad. I probably had you confused with one of the guys in the clip at the beginning. Apologies.
@@slavetochrist-stc9590 no sweat
I'm speechless
It really bothers me that they’re specifically coming at “black” guys. Honestly this doesn’t make me want to sign up to be a Christian because you can see the bias and the attempt to convert “black” people to Christianity. But with other people who are even more radical they’re not in a cult and we just aren’t going to cover them. This doesn’t come off as real.
Check out more of their videos on Cultish, they cover 7 day Adventist, Mormons, and I think Islam, but they don't discriminate just look for more of their videos. Take care
@@Darius-yi6wg I’ve looked at them and it seems biased. Will they do Orthodox Jews? Probably won’t happen.
I was in this group for years, a white Englishman from the Isle of Wight UK. Thank God for James White 🙏
Not GOCC?
So you from the toilet to the port potty.
@@guynsly1210 yes GOCC
@@PreachTheWord1 excuse me? Haha
@@alexharvey8601 copy
They Say That Mary Was Not A Virgin when the The Holy Spirit overshadowed her that her and Joseph had relation and that is how Yahshua was conceived.
What I see👀 and are big 🚩🚩 is two men who agree with each other discussing others who wouldn’t agree with them whom are not present to represent themselves; spending 50+ minutes speaking of scripture with only a few scriptures being presented discussing the faults of others interpretation of scripture while subtly offering their own interpretations when🧐🤔😐- 2Peter 1:20- Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
1Peter 4:11- If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
They say enough to expose the lies of your doctrine
The 12 tribes of Jacob, not involving a black nation.
I'm an israelite or seed of Abraham, through faith in Christ Jesus alone .. not by flesh and blood .
Check the bible
Prove your theorys through scripture
Abraham came from Shem one of Noah son, Abraham is the father of Israelites, not Ham. The black people came from Ham according to Genesis.
@ 42mins you guys lie on us I'm gocc Dallas they still eat chicken I don't, They say amen we say selah but I'm not with the church actively but they don't narrate our thinking
The law is a character builder to complete the main two laws which the whole of the laws are accomplished.
I just tell them that they aren’t Israelites and that they are African Americans. Then they debate and get destroyed.
Kal Yadah la Ahayah
I understand the Cult part but what's wrong with someone knowing their identity. I'm African American right and African be like what part of Africa you from. What do I say I'm American. We save by faith as well. But Jesus says you love me keep my commandments. Revelation 14:12 Here the patient of the saints they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus! Scripture is plan!
Nothing wrong with knowing your identity. The problem comes when you think you're identity has some effect on you status before God.
@@Oscardunlap I'm not saying that but if he say he going save a people that been scattered? And of course everyone who believes In him. It makes you wonder. We have to act God is this little God His word is his word and he do have a remnant of chosen people. Read ezkiel 37 my brother?
this post gets half a like. i wasnt digging the cult part, everything else was cool.
@@hollandparran4266 lol well I take my half a like 🙏🏾😂
Why don't they invite former Catholics? The last debate Dr. James had with a Catholic he suppose lost.
Also, what's with the tattoos? Are tattoos acceptable in Apologia?
The laws of God don't impact Apologist mentally. It's clearly allowed.
@@guynsly1210 That sucks if that's true.
@@guynsly1210 Tattoos are not sinful. Some Christians just prefer not to get them. You should get tattoos that are honoring to God and not in rebellious fashion
@@salvadorreyes1337 It's painfully apparent, I seen a video of apologist eating squid. It doesn't impact them that eating God's creation that isn't made for eating is wrong. All beast & creation untouched by mankind stick to their ordained diet, except for man. It's wild, but true. If they were tested with torture, to choose between that or eating swine's flesh, they'd clearly feast before standing stiffly for God's dietary law.
@@salvadorreyes1337 check out Austin's comment, like I said, it's painfully true.
Ran to "Cultish" (a "white" guy with skulls on his shirt, and pagan tattoos) for headphones, and a mic 🤣😆
Nope
@10:18 misinformation, never in that commercial will you hear Elder Rawchaa say "My specific way" anything. This is why I say not only the brother, but also this guy the host, is without integrity. @10:46 More absence of integrity, the Elders of GOCC, repeatedly state, they don't have all the information, they have videos they put out stating corrections they've received from others about certain teachings that they were doing. Growth, this is the aspect that some people who leaves the ministry will not acknowledge. One of the red flags to know if you're in a cult, if the person(s) is an infallible leader(ship) meaning; nothing they say or ever do is ever wrong. Elders at GOCC are spilling out of their own mouths their faults, they've made mistakes, the misinformation that's coming from this little interview, can't be seen if you have a desire for something you don't believe in to be evil, no matter what. Doesn't that sound infallible? Therefore, his comparisons to the prophets of Mormonism and the Catholic priests infallibility with GOCC leadership are unbecoming. @11:24 "Only His people (Israelites) can interpret scripture" is a false statement, which is out of context. Looking at reality, out of all nations out of all ministries that have a particular nation dominance in their church, which of them is using this form of "the Bible interprets itself type of teaching?" Throughout history in our era, what nation is preaching the gospel using precept upon precept, context within context, every false way is a lie other than the precepts written in the Bible? Who else what other nation is using this method, if anybody has that information that'd be great to share. Because if you don't, it is a fact, it is a fact that those of us that realize we're Israelites, is using this method that the Bible interprets itself. That, is a fact! In no way shape or form, are we stating, in my opinion, that only the nation of Israel can interpret the Bible. If that's true then it is counterproductive. What I mean is this, if we're teaching the book to gentile, and we use this method, they wouldn't be able to use that method, it would be pointless to teach them using this method since they can't use it according to Oscar Dunlap, it is a faulty accusation completely flaccious. Again, the absence of integrity is astounding. Towards the end of his statement, he spoke some truth, what I've learned from the devil, in order to tell a lie you got to have some truth to it, otherwise it's going to sound completely unbelievable. That is the best form of lying. In my opinion it works more than 50% of the time. Mainstream media use it all the time, until we realize some parts of it were lies some parts of it were not. They use it in imageries etc...
@12:39 with the GOCC, it's not about identity, it's about Christ literally all about Christ. But when it comes to desires, the truth is irrelevant, more focus on the negativity with other ministries that have issues with deviating from identity to the blood of Christ, the ministry that is being promoted on this particular interview, is the GOCC. A lot of things are going to be misconceived, simply because the host, and the interviewee are not making those differentiations. Same thing again, integrity is voided here. @13:22 I believe all Israelite ministries do this, where in order to rebuke and refute a particular teaching that comes from Christianity or any other religion, we go to scripture to defeat that particular teaching. So in order to refute, virgin birth, immaculate conception and incarnation, we go to the scripture to do that. The method that he's using, literally all in my opinion, all Israelite ministries use the same method. I'm from one ministry, so within the ministry I'm in GOCC, we will stick to the 66 books to refute any teachings. Only the teachings that are false. @13:36, with the gathering of Christ Church, GOCC, I know for an absolute fact, that no teacher teaches, that the law exonerates your sins. Now, I say it like that, to make it clear, it is a straw man fallacy to state that anyone who teaches the law is automatically teaching that you need to keep the law to get salvation. That is so fallacious, it makes my head spin when people don't grasp that insane concept when they hear somebody say, you got to keep the law of Moses. In that statement alone, is very vague, there's more details to that. So judging that statement by just hearing it by itself, without hearing the explanation, and then jumping to this false conclusion, oh he's saying that in order to get salvation I got to keep the law. Nobody ever said that. It is a stupid argument, a better and healthy conversation can happen when somebody says we got to keep the law of Moses. @14:01 in the scenario that he's giving, it sounds like he's leading this opponent that he's talking to into a persuasion, that his opponent doesn't even stand on. That is some psychological crazed dialogue. To able to twist someone's mind into thinking they need to defend something they don't believe, or more importantly they don't even realize they don't believe, that is some new stuff, new level, wait wait, that's called a strawman fallacy, speak with opposition ask questions with opposition. Don't make up in opposition, and then ask your opposer to defend that stance they never made. @14:10 Christ works isn't finished, that's the first time I'm hearing this. I've been in this church for about 2 to 3 years. Let's be clear, and Luke I believe chapter 4, beginning at verse 17, he read Isaiah 61:1, if you go to Isaiah 61:1, you'll see he didn't finish that verse. There's still something else he got to do cuz that verse concerns him, he finished what he needed to do on earth, when he comes back he has unfinished business. That part comes later, so there's a whole teaching with the words that come out of Christ's mouth I believe in the book of John, it is finished. An entire teaching gentiles have came up with that one verse. More importantly, there's nothing that Israelites need to add to his work, anything concerning Christ, he did that himself, anything concerning Christ is servants, we got the work to do that he has, like the gentiles would say, commissioned us to do. He started with Israelites, it's going to end with Israelites. From what I'm seeing that's how it is, whether anyone likes it or not, even if it's not an Israelite using the book reading the book to teach the book in real time, the book that they're reading is taught by an Israelite written by an Israelite, no matter what no matter who's holding the book in Israelite is always teaching, the thing is, is the person teaching, teaching what the Israelites is teaching with integrity. What he said following this statement is a question, what is the purpose of the law. The simple answer that his opposer gave, is that we obey it, another simple answer is, because it's life. That never changed, anyone who got this far, you might be thinking Christ is life, that's also true, simplicity of the law is life is also true. That's written in the word, that can't be refuted. @16:02 His statement on genealogies, I believe is written in Timothy, I believe in my opinion, that it was talking about people who would say that their great-grandfather was the great prophet Isaiah, that's my genealogy, so you should respect what I'm telling you. Others would say oh my great-grandfather was the prophet Malachi or the prophet Habakkuk etc I believe this is the reason why the rebuke was written in the letter. @16:09 through curses written in Deuteronomy 28 is how we know who is who according to the tow truck of Israel. It's not necessarily through who your father is, That was poorly explained coming from a person who's supposed to know this stuff. I stopped at 17, the assessment the host made was ridiculous. If all of this doesn't make it I'm just going to state something simple, like, if you're watching this interview, look at it as half-truth, a lot of the details explain here is very vague the comparisons are vague, if you want the cold hard facts, just talk to one of the leaderships within any of these ministries. The ministry that's being promoted on here mostly GOCC, do you own research. I'd start with the TV show called Explained watch episode cults. It's free on UA-cam.
Turned off the video at 17:33 after the lost/missing father talk. Disgusting rhetoric. If this is how the Christian church views those outside of their beliefs, I want no part.
@@kg00d04 The comparison to gangs, the missing father part, it's just a bad assessment. Scripture literally say we have one Father who is in heaven. Thier determination to make what the Israelite ministries are to be a very negative thing, is extremely unwell. It's like every 5 minutes they're telling some type of fallacy. It's wild.
@@kg00d04 lol you wanted no part anyway. It's all good man. Lord have mercy on you.
@@guynsly1210 Are all Israelites children of God by default then?
@@Oscardunlap No idea to which comment you're referring to. Elaborate.
. Matthew 26:7-13= listen&obey JUSTLY like this woman did. God bless everybody real Good, more in&by Jesus !!! Yes&amen, We agree with all Good prayers, so be it & thank you Jesus !!! Ha.Ha.Ha, Hallelujah, Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha
The Bible says to test all things. What are the fruits of the spirit? Kindness is one. They do not show kindness. Just watch they can't go five minutes without being unkind. It's the biggest TELL!!! No Jesus Christ there! No Holy Spirit! Also if it doesn't sound like GOOD NEWS it's not the Good News... Just saying. Jesus Christ is the Lord to the Glory of the Father for all who are near and to all that are far off. Jesus Christ came to set the captive free. Keep getting right with Jesus Christ Amen
The Bible is strong about boasting not against the natural branches which most of you easily violate to even about Israelites. Israelites hardly see many of you practice what you preach which ironically was to help Israelites in wanting to be saved in Roman 11.
One of the fruits of the spirit is long suffering and how many of you even show that?!! And it is no wonder a remnant make it
Why didn't you bring on the elders of the gathering of Christ Church to discuss them, using their commercial you know you can get sued for that, did you get their permission, the most high will use this to gather more of his people, shalom!!!
Negative. It's under fair use.
@@Oscardunlap How about you answer the first part of her question? Always Satan's games with you.
@@Oscardunlap funny how I'm NOT with GOCC but called out your disingenuous spirit weeks ago. Now you've gotten the limelight that you've been craving. It's pathetic. Like GOCC being stubborn and dishonest with the FIRMAMENT. It's not about the F Earth first. You're being just like them, it's the same unclean spirit that got transmitted to you. SMDH
Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. 🔨
@@2020Viszion congrats on your prophecy. I addressed that question many times. Check the comments and you'll find it
Do the elders of Gocc bring Christians on every time they talk about them?... Not even close.
I was interviewed by a BI. He said the way to heaven is to follow the law. I asked him if he always followed the law and asked if the law could save, why did Jesus come? He walked away because he didn’t have answers.
This the 3rd video bring Israelite Brothers on the show and bring the Scriptures Israelites don't talk out they belly you wanna prove them wrong do it with Scripture
It's a podcast. It's a conversation, not a presentation.
@Oscar Dunlap u all over the place bruh, How is christ unonly hope, When the Creator YAH says the opposite in *(JO 3:16) in the Law and Prophets.
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Congrats Andrew and Casey ❤️✝️
ALL PRAISES TO AHAYAH 🙏🏾......Recompense Soon!!!
WE DANG SURE NOT GONNA SEE NOT GONNA SEE THIS BLACK BROTHER AGAIN RIGHT LOL
Whenever I’ve spoken to them, I just ask what material their clothes are made of. They never want to answer, T your point of failing at least 1 law to fail them all.
Jesus Christ was a hebrew Israelite and so were the 12 disciples 😂
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Is fam, is an Hebrew Israelite. Not was, he's very much alive.
Great discussion. Thank you.
God created everything and created grace that can't be grasp by how its stronger than flesh and blood can believe it apple all no matter what's believed caused by God. The oldest Devine truth is Imagination being God in man, Psalms 82:1{A Psalm of Asaph.} God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
8Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
What about the cults of Calvin and other false worldviews?
Not giving creedence to THEIR God??? So people who keep the commandments are worshipping a DIFFERENT God?????
I don't see my past comments