One of the best auto part videos overall I've seen in clarity and shooting detail! I end up driving around with 3-5 folks in mine often enough to probably never install something like this, but it's still cool to see the options.
I appreciate that. I have been super happy with the Goose Gear set-up and still enjoy the organization and storage benefits today. I use the platform heavily and its not showing any adverse wear and tear. Many more adventures to support with the gear!
Honestly, I can't say the Cargo Dog (CD) brand ever showed up in my searches and to be honest I wasn't looking for a "Dog" related product (which I can see now is not the sole purpose of the product) so some bad is SEO or targeting marketing is to blame as well. Taking a closer look at it's design there are a few things that don't suit my specific needs: 1. I don't like the fact that the CD product requires you remove everything you have stored on top to gain access to the contents stored under. In my build, security of the contents was not the issue. I wanted easy access while geared up and transporting and when i was unloaded have the secondary option to gain access through the top was a bonus. The CD product does not offer the option to gain access to the contents through the sides while the door is open. This was a critical consideration in my build where the contents stored inside are recovery gear and tools which may need to be accessed without completely having the ability to move or remove all my gear.
2. It doesn't provide any means or structure for securing the gear stored on top of the new floor area. I don't like to travel on-road or off-road with loose gear in my cabin area. An accident or rough roads can turn anything just placed on carpet into a potentially dangerous projectile or just allow it to get damaged or damage other things. Having a sheet metal construction means it cannot be easily modified to accommodate eyelet or d-rings that the Goose Gear set up has already built in. The Goose Gear package has a number of pre-installed 1/4-20 threaded inserts for easy mounting of a number of other products such as fridges / shelving or D-rings or other mounting aids.
3. I wanted a durable surface that could take the abuse of heavy gear and would look good and be easy to clean. The CD is carpet and with the nature of the outdoor use thorns / splinters or even Velcro that a number containers and bags that i use inside have, would quickly fray or tear up the carpet and as a cloth would take to staining fairly easy. It's apparently common enough of a problem with CD that their warranty has to call out that damage to the carpet, or staining is not covered. The Goose Gear coating is in fact a bed liner material extremely durable and scratch resistant and enhances the birch / plywood resistance to impact damage. (obviously the CD carpet will not scratch but tearing is very possible)
4. The CD seat delete leaves a gap and step down between the deleted seats and the cargo area. Being that the Goose Gear product is a complete replacement from tailgate to seat, the completely flat and level surface is better suited for a alternate sleep area which I do use it for. Even with a pad the 1/2-3/4" deep 2" wide gap would be felt between the 2 surfaces. This is also something that was important in my build but may not be in someone else's but you asked why I would choose the GG over CD.
5. The last one is a minor one but if you have a Rubicon and use the MOLLE panels behind the seat the side flip up design of the lids would hit the pouches I have mounted. It just means I would have to adjust the seats up and tilted them forward to gain access every time. You can see in a few videos out there on the CD unit how this might be an inconvenience.
5.11tactical.com - these are a number of different pouches I have kept and used on my other builds too. MOLLE mounting makes them secure and very accessible. These are the ones I have pictured: - Flex Admin Pouch - 6.6 Padded Pouch - 6.6 Med Pouch - 6.6 Pouch - 6.10 Vertical Pouch
My understanding is that, in order to use the rear seat delete plate system, it is required to get the rear section of the plate system as well. Unfortunately, the rear plate system requires a different mount than OEM and therefore, the Goose Gear shared center mount for the rear seat delete and the plate will not bolt to the factory provisions.
I can say in a lifted Jeep, another 6 inches of self space alone would make getting in and out through the side door a lot more of a pain. 38's now and 3.0" of lift already make climbing in a concerted effort. I like the storage potential but it really will adversely effect ingress and egress.
I've been looking into a pick up truck for off roading to take my dirt bikes so i was wondering is it posible to fit in a dirt bike in a jeep with the back seat delete🤔
awesome video made , on their website it says the front requires the back, I'm looking to only remove the seats and make room but I don't feel like I need the back, still planning to sleep inside but a foam mattress should flatten it well. Do you know if it's possible?
That is correct. The front two panels use the rear plate system mounting edge. In my explanation I should have said that once the plate system is installed you can choose any of the other variants as long as the plate system remains mounted. Based on what I know of the factory mount you would have to do a little wood work and drill the front crossbar that the carpet mounted too. I would think it is doable with a little DIY spirit.
I can't say that there is anything I would improve that was substantial. The jack is accessible by removing 2 Allen head screws. I cant use the stock jack so its a bit inconsequential with my lift height and tire combination.
If it is flush to the factory carpeted floor over the pocket, it will fit without issue. You can spec the Goose Gear rear floor with the access panel on either side. I would highly suggest that you do a little due diligence and use noise dampening mat on the underside or use some foam insulation strip to ensure no ratteling occurs based on your subs output.
I don't have that measurement but realistically, it would measure the exact same as a vehicle without the Goose Gear parts installed as the console is stationary. I'm 5'7" and can sleep without touching my head on the chair and feet on the tailgate. I will say 5'10" would be the limit.
I use a deepslerp pad. Fits just about perfectly even with the camp kitchen. I feel the factory hump and uneven surface between the seat area and back area without the Goose Gear is less than desirable for a good night's sleep.
No. The rear plate alone reuses the same 6 factory primary bolts and when attached to the seat deletes and 8 more floor hold downs its solid. I have run with it empty and completely loaded and not had any noise issues. I had shared your concerns at first, especially having the OEM sub woofer but no issues even when I'm cruising around completely unloaded. The only thing I hear is the factory hard top squeaking on occasion on really rough trails.
Has anyone successfully installed the side infill panels? I’m in the process of installing the full sleep system, but when the infill panels are added it makes contact with the plastic floor trim and doesn’t allow it to be installed. This product does not come with any installation instructions. Am I required to remove the plastic trim on both passenger and driver side of the floor to allow for the infill panels to be installed?
I will see if I can get a hold of a set and do the installation video as a supplement to this one. Can you send me pictures of what you saw? My email is on my main page.
There are a lot of factors I can change to gain a larger audience, but these factors inherently change the content and delivery of sort of detailed instructional video I like to deliver. If this was a job and something that wasn't more of a hobby, the content and promotional strategies may be a completely different thing.
The problem is that the seats folded down are still on an angle and not flat or even on the same plane as the rear deck. You might try the DeepSleep mattress if you want a sleepsurface but it still won't be level
I'm not sure, but I'll see what it takes. I have never used that for storage so I never experienced the benefit. I have dozens of gear pouches and pockets that I like better to store things.
This is such a good video. I love that you really broke down the install. Thank you!
One of the best auto part videos overall I've seen in clarity and shooting detail! I end up driving around with 3-5 folks in mine often enough to probably never install something like this, but it's still cool to see the options.
Thank you and I just tried to create what I felt was useful to me in my build.
Surprised this brand didnt show up in my endless searches for travel mods. I like that these fill the gap behind the front seats. Looks great too!
That's one of the reasons I am sharing. Goose Gear is one of those brands I found and fell in love with. Thanks for watching.
Excellent camera angles - great video, thanks for sharing. cheers
Thanks! I try my best within the constraints of time and my skills
Exactly!
Great video. Been wanting to install this on my JKU.
Excellent video ! This is the best Goose install I’ve seen! Thanks!
I appreciate that. I have been super happy with the Goose Gear set-up and still enjoy the organization and storage benefits today. I use the platform heavily and its not showing any adverse wear and tear. Many more adventures to support with the gear!
Very nice job, thank you sir !
You bet
I’m ready to order for my Rubicon 392. Will give you a call to make sure I get the right stuff. Thanks!
You wont regret it. Just make sure you go through all the options to make sure you get exactly what you need.
nice quick install video!
Thanks, I try to keep it on topic and will interject my experiences once i get more time with the products.
Great job on the install video.
Thanks for watching. Ill have some other review commentary shortly but i try to keep the installations about the process.
Most informational and clear video I’ve found on the system. 👍
Thank you. Still one of my favorite organizational mods that is truly bolt-on.
Great job. There’s a USA company that makes platforms out of aluminum. Veteran owned.
Very good video. Great explanations! Thx.
Why did you pick this over cargo dog storage?
Honestly, I can't say the Cargo Dog (CD) brand ever showed up in my searches and to be honest I wasn't looking for a "Dog" related product (which I can see now is not the sole purpose of the product) so some bad is SEO or targeting marketing is to blame as well.
Taking a closer look at it's design there are a few things that don't suit my specific needs:
1. I don't like the fact that the CD product requires you remove everything you have stored on top to gain access to the contents stored under. In my build, security of the contents was not the issue. I wanted easy access while geared up and transporting and when i was unloaded have the secondary option to gain access through the top was a bonus. The CD product does not offer the option to gain access to the contents through the sides while the door is open. This was a critical consideration in my build where the contents stored inside are recovery gear and tools which may need to be accessed without completely having the ability to move or remove all my gear.
2. It doesn't provide any means or structure for securing the gear stored on top of the new floor area. I don't like to travel on-road or off-road with loose gear in my cabin area. An accident or rough roads can turn anything just placed on carpet into a potentially dangerous projectile or just allow it to get damaged or damage other things.
Having a sheet metal construction means it cannot be easily modified to accommodate eyelet or d-rings that the Goose Gear set up has already built in. The Goose Gear package has a number of pre-installed 1/4-20 threaded inserts for easy mounting of a number of other products such as fridges / shelving or D-rings or other mounting aids.
3. I wanted a durable surface that could take the abuse of heavy gear and would look good and be easy to clean. The CD is carpet and with the nature of the outdoor use thorns / splinters or even Velcro that a number containers and bags that i use inside have, would quickly fray or tear up the carpet and as a cloth would take to staining fairly easy. It's apparently common enough of a problem with CD that their warranty has to call out that damage to the carpet, or staining is not covered. The Goose Gear coating is in fact a bed liner material extremely durable and scratch resistant and enhances the birch / plywood resistance to impact damage. (obviously the CD carpet will not scratch but tearing is very possible)
4. The CD seat delete leaves a gap and step down between the deleted seats and the cargo area. Being that the Goose Gear product is a complete replacement from tailgate to seat, the completely flat and level surface is better suited for a alternate sleep area which I do use it for. Even with a pad the 1/2-3/4" deep 2" wide gap would be felt between the 2 surfaces. This is also something that was important in my build but may not be in someone else's but you asked why I would choose the GG over CD.
5. The last one is a minor one but if you have a Rubicon and use the MOLLE panels behind the seat the side flip up design of the lids would hit the pouches I have mounted. It just means I would have to adjust the seats up and tilted them forward to gain access every time. You can see in a few videos out there on the CD unit how this might be an inconvenience.
Great video! Thanks for posting.
I'm glad you enjoyed. hank for tuning in!
Hey! I noticed your center console has USB ports and a 110v outlet @9:50 is that a mopar add on or is it trim specific?
It is a trim specific option however can be added via MOPAR parts. It is included with all Rubicon JL Wranglers
Where can I purchase the bags behind the 2 front seats? Great video!!
5.11tactical.com - these are a number of different pouches I have kept and used on my other builds too. MOLLE mounting makes them secure and very accessible.
These are the ones I have pictured:
- Flex Admin Pouch
- 6.6 Padded Pouch
- 6.6 Med Pouch
- 6.6 Pouch
- 6.10 Vertical Pouch
Great install video 👍🏼 Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for watching.
Great video. Can you do just the 2 seats an not the trunk? Anyone knows is that is an option?
My understanding is that, in order to use the rear seat delete plate system, it is required to get the rear section of the plate system as well.
Unfortunately, the rear plate system requires a different mount than OEM and therefore, the Goose Gear shared center mount for the rear seat delete and the plate will not bolt to the factory provisions.
Shame they don't do a stealth sleep system with drawers underneath that are a decent height and that run the full length of the interior.
I can say in a lifted Jeep, another 6 inches of self space alone would make getting in and out through the side door a lot more of a pain. 38's now and 3.0" of lift already make climbing in a concerted effort. I like the storage potential but it really will adversely effect ingress and egress.
Interesting
I've been looking into a pick up truck for off roading to take my dirt bikes so i was wondering is it posible to fit in a dirt bike in a jeep with the back seat delete🤔
Good question. I would imagine the front wheel would have to come off but ... maybe?
awesome video made , on their website it says the front requires the back, I'm looking to only remove the seats and make room but I don't feel like I need the back, still planning to sleep inside but a foam mattress should flatten it well. Do you know if it's possible?
That is correct. The front two panels use the rear plate system mounting edge. In my explanation I should have said that once the plate system is installed you can choose any of the other variants as long as the plate system remains mounted.
Based on what I know of the factory mount you would have to do a little wood work and drill the front crossbar that the carpet mounted too. I would think it is doable with a little DIY spirit.
Did you install nuts to the 2 outside bolts for the rear platform next to the 40 and 60 panels?
I did but it's not necessary. They are only there for OEM equipment that was removed.
@@exhaustinglife thank you for the reply, I thought I was missing some parts.
seriously thinking about getting this for the full delete, can you get to the rear jack? Anything you dont like?
I can't say that there is anything I would improve that was substantial. The jack is accessible by removing 2 Allen head screws. I cant use the stock jack so its a bit inconsequential with my lift height and tire combination.
@@exhaustinglife fantastic, thank you!
I'm guess you don't use the back seats much as it'd be a hassle to do this every time you want to go camping.
I never use the back seats so it fit my situation but if I had to put them back it's very easy to do that in 30 mins.
What happens with my alpine sub in the rear floor?
If it is flush to the factory carpeted floor over the pocket, it will fit without issue. You can spec the Goose Gear rear floor with the access panel on either side.
I would highly suggest that you do a little due diligence and use noise dampening mat on the underside or use some foam insulation strip to ensure no ratteling occurs based on your subs output.
Can you adjust your front and passenger seat?
Yes,it can slide all the way to the furthest back position on both sides
Do you know the length, measuring from center console to rear, with rear door closed? Thanks
I don't have that measurement but realistically, it would measure the exact same as a vehicle without the Goose Gear parts installed as the console is stationary.
I'm 5'7" and can sleep without touching my head on the chair and feet on the tailgate. I will say 5'10" would be the limit.
@@exhaustinglife Thanks, I'm 6ft, and am considering buying a Wrangler to have this lifestyle. Thanks for your help
Thoughts on using he deepsleep4jeeps air mattress to complement the Goose Gear Stealth? Or is deepsleep sufficient?
I use a deepslerp pad. Fits just about perfectly even with the camp kitchen.
I feel the factory hump and uneven surface between the seat area and back area without the Goose Gear is less than desirable for a good night's sleep.
Any rattling from the rear cargo plate??
No. The rear plate alone reuses the same 6 factory primary bolts and when attached to the seat deletes and 8 more floor hold downs its solid. I have run with it empty and completely loaded and not had any noise issues.
I had shared your concerns at first, especially having the OEM sub woofer but no issues even when I'm cruising around completely unloaded. The only thing I hear is the factory hard top squeaking on occasion on really rough trails.
Has anyone successfully installed the side infill panels? I’m in the process of installing the full sleep system, but when the infill panels are added it makes contact with the plastic floor trim and doesn’t allow it to be installed. This product does not come with any installation instructions. Am I required to remove the plastic trim on both passenger and driver side of the floor to allow for the infill panels to be installed?
I will see if I can get a hold of a set and do the installation video as a supplement to this one. Can you send me pictures of what you saw? My email is on my main page.
@@exhaustinglife Will do, thank you
I got a set. I'll do the install this weekend
@@exhaustinglife Awesome - looking forward to seeing the final product.
Is this available for a 2017?
Yes. Check out the Goose Gear website at: www.goose-gear.com/products/stealth-sleep-package-jeep-wrangler-2007-2018-jku
Still not sure why this channel doesn’t have 100k subscribers!!
There are a lot of factors I can change to gain a larger audience, but these factors inherently change the content and delivery of sort of detailed instructional video I like to deliver. If this was a job and something that wasn't more of a hobby, the content and promotional strategies may be a completely different thing.
I wish goose gear had the option not delete the seats and just fold over for a bed platform
The problem is that the seats folded down are still on an angle and not flat or even on the same plane as the rear deck. You might try the DeepSleep mattress if you want a sleepsurface but it still won't be level
Now i want it and can't afford it 😫 lol.
Is there anyway to keep the factory panel that acts as a storage for your door, windshield and roof fasteners?
I'm not sure, but I'll see what it takes. I have never used that for storage so I never experienced the benefit. I have dozens of gear pouches and pockets that I like better to store things.