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Troubleshooting a no spark China Quad, critical wire harness measurements,

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  • 6_8_2016, Troubleshooting a no spark China Quad, critical wire harness measurements, after few simple digital Volt / Ohm meter measurements, one should know what is wrong with their Quad, if all measurements are good, one should consider a new CDI, 70cc China quad, Honda Clone Motor, Harvey Spooner, Hoarding Mayhem,

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  • @acmesoundw
    @acmesoundw 4 роки тому +8

    I know that as of today this vid is almost 4 years old, I watched it when it was new. I just bought one and this information was priceless. Sometimes you never know when you'll need information like this and knowing where to look is key. Thanks Harvey.

  • @INECIKlavier
    @INECIKlavier 7 років тому

    I just snagged a SUNL ATV-109 today from a co-worker that needs to have the battery charged, carb cleaned and a good romping to clean out the cobwebs. Maybe not in that order.
    He also told me that it runs great for about half an hour, then it shuts off and wont start again until it cools down. I've watched a couple other videos and done some research but your video not only laid things out better than everything else but also made more sense.
    Thank you!

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  7 років тому

      Hey INECIKlavier!!! Sound like U got a great deal!!! About heating up and shutting down, could be Ur CDI or spark coil, but, before U mess with them, I would make sure the gas flow into the carb is good, I have running across a few smaller China carbs where the bowl fills very slowly, especially when the motor gets hot, had something to do with the float needle valve, I just swapped them out.... Good luck with Ur new ATV, enjoy it!!! Thanks for the info, encouragement, watching, and commenting!!! Please let me know how it all turns out....

  • @guywithabrokenwheel1159
    @guywithabrokenwheel1159 3 роки тому

    Thank you!!! I just got a brand new wiring harness for my 110 and installed it and it had no spark, so I got to 111 in your video and saw the part about the yellow black wire on the cdi going straight to the coil, and looked over my wiring again and saw that I had the cdi plug plugged into the hand control and the hand control plugged into my cdi, now I’ll change em around. Thank you so much, your a life saver

  • @thomaschiappisi3726
    @thomaschiappisi3726 3 роки тому +1

    Damn! After all these years I finally understand it! Presented in the Exact format in which I learn. Thanks!

  • @steveblottenberger1097
    @steveblottenberger1097 2 роки тому +1

    I like the way you explained with the basic 12 V with the scooters and the quads doing a good job I've been mechanic for years and just started playing with the scooters and these Chinese wiring is so undependable keep up the good work you got my vote

  • @sim6699
    @sim6699 8 років тому +1

    I'm sure many people will have lots of fun on their bikes after you helped them to repair it

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  8 років тому +1

      Hi Simms, I try to keep ATVs out of the scrap yard, even the China ones!!! Thanks for the encouragement, watching, and commenting!!!!

  • @laransly5129
    @laransly5129 3 роки тому

    By the way thanks for the video on wiring that up. U the only person i have found that knows what he is talking about when u are explaining your technique!! Thanks again bro

  • @MOVIE7TUNES
    @MOVIE7TUNES 7 років тому +2

    You are the best teacher I have seen on thje net!! Thanks Harvey!

  • @Borisdadog1
    @Borisdadog1 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome info. Great to have someone such as yourself able to explain things in simple english.

  • @januaryman169
    @januaryman169 2 роки тому

    I have an Alpha Sport Cobra 180. I was told all it needed to run was a new wiring harness. I was given two harnesses with it. Hopefully, the information you provided here will help me get closer to getting my quad to run.

  • @pamayers2988
    @pamayers2988 4 роки тому +3

    Once again I come to you for instruction,your the man Mr. Spooner! THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN!

    • @tyrekburden5892
      @tyrekburden5892 2 роки тому +1

      I have one that has a green ,blue and white , a black and red and two yellow where do or what to I hook the to yellow up to

  • @CalvinsCorner72
    @CalvinsCorner72 8 років тому +1

    It's really nice of you to take your time to sit down and do this video just for others. I for one thank you, even thought it's not for me. Everyone needs a refresher course from time to time. Thanks

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  8 років тому

      Hey Calvin!!!! I'm glad that U enjoyed the refresher class, now, for extra credit, what was Ur favorite hard cider? Was the pear cider as good as U thought it would be????? Thanks for the encouragement, watching, and commenting!!!

    • @CalvinsCorner72
      @CalvinsCorner72 8 років тому

      +Harvey Spooner OK the Pear was good but not like I thought of when I have Pears. Pears are sweet but this Cider was sour a little but good. Thanks

  • @lonnienoland2921
    @lonnienoland2921 6 років тому +4

    Harvey thank you,I bought a Honda 110 for fifty dollars . Pretty much complete. It even had the tools,that are kept on the frame .The fenders were just faded a bit. I could not get spark I worked on it for about 6 hours and I came watched your video and you said you got no ground you got nothin. So I ran ground wires everywhere and by gosh I got spark and it started up right away. I thought it was grounded all ready but it wasn't. The bike had set in a Barn for over 15 years . Just think just because of a Ground wire . Thank you. Oh I also have a little Chinese quad 110 and a 250 They are okay could be better if they made their frames stronger. I

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  6 років тому +1

      Hey Lonnie!!! I love hearing stories like this, another Honda ATC saved from the scrap heap.... Good job taking the time to figure everything out!!! Thanks for the info, encouragement, watching, and commenting!!!!

  • @DJRavek
    @DJRavek 3 роки тому

    Dude, you ROCK! I can't find shit for info on these until I found your video and got a deep understanding. Can't thank you enough for making this video!!!

  • @b2200mlb
    @b2200mlb 7 років тому +5

    This is an awesome video especially for someone that might not understand ignition systems too well. You're a great teacher and well thought out. I'm subscribing!! "It's a good idea if you like getting hurt because it's probably gonna break and you're probably gonna crash so... whatever gets you through the night I guess."

  • @randallhighsmith3406
    @randallhighsmith3406 6 років тому

    Mr Spooner you are very kind for sharing your expertise on this topic.. keep it up. And thank you.

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  6 років тому +1

      Hey Randall!!! I'm just trying to keep as many ATVs out of the junk yard as possible, even if they were made in China!!! Thanks for your kind words, encouragement, watching, and commenting!!!

    • @randallhighsmith3406
      @randallhighsmith3406 6 років тому

      Harvey Spooner got a 07 Manco talon 260 .. been trying to get this thing running consistently.. replaced all components. Even bought the dc Cdi that you use haven't hooked that up yet.. what a headache

  • @EKoston3
    @EKoston3 2 роки тому +1

    Harvey I need your advice, I have a 90cc 4 stroke believe it's a kazuma engine. I recently replaced all the wiring, along with stator, rectifier, coil, starter solenoid, ignition switch, everything due to some wires shorting out.
    When I replaced everything,it fired up in 1st try, a couple days later it wouldn't start. Had low compression, so I tore into the top end to check everything.
    Ended up replacing head gasket and stuff. Found both valves,so took them off, removed all the carbon and re installed, and adjusted the valves.
    Re installed engine, put everything back together, and I have no spark.
    Checked all the connectors, all "look" good.
    I have a multimeter but it's too fancy for me, can't figure out how to use it 😂.
    What do you think it could be?
    Thanks.

  • @wespurcell3217
    @wespurcell3217 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome ! Seriously, thanks bro. I wished I found this videolike two weeks ago

  • @fukhue8226
    @fukhue8226 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the info. My problem was a corroded kill switch causing resistance in the Run Position killing the spark.

  • @alfredrubio8397
    @alfredrubio8397 5 років тому

    I have a 2008 Baja 110cc quad. I'm getting fuel and spark. Starter and solenoid are new. New spark plug as well.
    My problem is, it cranks and cranks, but doesn't turn on. Everytime when it cranks, you can hear some noise from the exhaust (like a popping noise as if it wants to turn on; with the choke closed AND opened). But, I bought this from an amateur mechanic who, which had appeared to open the valve end of the engine, and who also stripped the spark plug entrance (it goes in fine all the way with a rachet and in small areas, it tightens up, but it keeps spinning when you try to tighten it on the last thread).
    I have yet to use a multimeter, but I will be buying one tomorrow. I've only been using a fuse checker (one of those tools w/ an alligator end that lights up when you touch power)

  • @firemoth
    @firemoth 6 років тому

    Thank you so much. The way you explain this is so easy to understand. I really appreciate it.

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  6 років тому

      Hey Joe!!!! I'm trying to save as many of these things from the scrap yard as possible.... Thanks for the positive feedback, thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!

    • @firemoth
      @firemoth 6 років тому

      Harvey Spooner I started following your how to today. So far I have the engine off the frame...i have two of them, and I'm trying to put together one working engine. Is the coil pack for the spark twelve volt? I ask because I need to know if I can rig it up with the jumper or if I need to have it connected to the converter

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  6 років тому

      Hey Joe, For a Capacitive Discharge Ignition, (CDI), system the only power to the spark coil is the output from the CDI box, the CDI box maybe powered by the battery, (DC CDI box), of from the stator, (AC CDI box),... I will be doing some wiring on the Jonway 110cc mini quad over the next week or so, please stay tuned.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!

  • @brucemanly7857
    @brucemanly7857 6 років тому

    Once again Harvey, I'm up and running thanks to your tutorial !! You are da man !

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  6 років тому +1

      Hey Bruce!!! The next version, the newest generation of the portable CDI system is under development, it is high performance and rechargeable.... I should be putting a video up on it soon, stay tuned!!! Thanks for Ur encouragement, kind words, watching, and commenting!!!

    • @brucemanly7857
      @brucemanly7857 6 років тому

      Are you kidding me, I wish I could pay back the knowledge and experience that you so graciously give away, I USE these vids in place of a service manual, do you have any idea what those cost?!?!? Thank You Harvey, don't thank me I only profit from the tips and short cuts, by not having to pay a guy to sell me advice, with a fraction of your wisdom and know how.....you're much appreciated !!

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  6 років тому

      Hey Bruce, Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement!!! Thanks also for Ur thoughts, watching, and commenting Bud!!!!

  • @cindycagle10
    @cindycagle10 7 років тому +5

    any info on removing/eliminating wireless receiver [ wireless remote kill switch ] from wiring harness? thanks

  • @JK-nd7ez
    @JK-nd7ez 5 років тому

    Thanks dude. Removed the white black wire coming from the ignition lock and it worked.. it seems that the ignition lock dont work right anymore and the black/white is all the time on off

  • @aldoesparza4199
    @aldoesparza4199 8 років тому +9

    Pretty good explaining video pretty helpful my still not runing but, but after wach this I know there is a hope to Bring it back to life, thanks 😉

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  8 років тому +1

      Hey Aldo, Thanks for all the kind words, U may check out Must1, Darren
      does a really good job with his video and explaining of repairs, between
      he and I, we will help U almost anything fixed.... Thanks for Ur
      thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!

  • @RustyGlovebox
    @RustyGlovebox 8 років тому

    Very good Professor, you know your wiring inside and out. I have taken notes. Take care

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  8 років тому

      Rusty, I have ATV wiring down pat, I just need to work on my fabrication skills, that is what I learn from you!!! Thanks for the kind works, watching, and commenting!!!

  • @gregstanley3986
    @gregstanley3986 3 місяці тому

    What makes it fire only when start button is pushed and stopped,only time you get spark to plug, only fires twice, when you hit start button and when you release the button,no spark when it's turning over

  • @ecvdub07
    @ecvdub07 5 років тому

    I have a modified honda cub that has a 125cc hondamatic, it got soaked by sprinklers one night and hasnt started since, its kickstart only. I ended up replacing my cdi, coil, plug, reg/rectifier and still no spark? Thanks for helping all of us!

  • @dustin8768
    @dustin8768 5 років тому +1

    ok so i got a 1977 honda 90cc 3wheeler symple wiring but nothing was conected ar the head light and to beleve i got no sparck not to mentchion no cdi when i puled evering like the wiring has no way on one but i cant find any wiring diagram to hook anything proper and it came with out the head light im sure somthing is missing i just need the engin running for a gokart i built from ground up ive been on the gokart prject for 2 years now due to trying differnt engins non witch wold run due to wiring this is the typ of engin i want on it regard less cuz i want a manul gokart so i cant due the engin mount on it till i know i got a running engine that will run appon finishing the gokart putting the engine that rins in order to wire up the kart any help like step by step would be great.

  • @scot6017
    @scot6017 2 місяці тому

    Nice. But a on paper wiring diagram would be helpful. I have motor , cdi. And relays for on and off controls. It’s a tifan water cooled in canoe.

  • @ciarangalvin9331
    @ciarangalvin9331 6 років тому

    I’ve got power from black and red.hooked everything up as explained and still have nothing.it was all wired fine untill I put the jump pack on now I’m just getting nothing any suggestions.and if I’ve got power from the stator does that Jean everything under the stator is fine

  • @GerryHawkins-ve3qf
    @GerryHawkins-ve3qf 4 місяці тому

    I've got four wires coming out of the stator. Green/ground two yellow/battery charging
    Blue white/ pulsar but no red black? I don't know how to wire it up

  • @lesleegrinnell8531
    @lesleegrinnell8531 2 роки тому

    Is the white and blue wire for the pulse generator suppose to show that it’s grounded? I can’t get my son’s chins 110 cc started and I’ve replaced everything, checked all the kill switches, the only thing I haven’t done is replace the ignition switch.

  • @bubblez9104
    @bubblez9104 2 роки тому

    I have sparl when i take it out but when i put it back in it doesn’t start, im guessing it’s no spark issue but im not sure.

  • @lionelreed694
    @lionelreed694 Рік тому

    I have a 2003 honda Shadow sabre 1100 2003. Front cyclinder not firing. I think my cdi box is bad or do I need to change wire harness

  • @bigdikbanditoftheshivering9720
    @bigdikbanditoftheshivering9720 4 роки тому

    Bought a used Baja 50cc engine. I was told it had low compression and would not run because of that. I didn’t use a meter, I took the spark plug out, jammed my thumb in the hole and kicked it. compression seemed strong. I checked spark and it does have very strong blue spark. Timing is on point. Cleaned the carburetor immaculately, but nothing. Took carburetor off my honda xr50 which I built from an empty case so i know its 100% working and threw that on, still nothing. Thought cause I didn’t use a meter maybe the compression it does have just isn’t enough after all, so I replaced the piston and rings. Compression isn’t the issue now, spark doesn’t seem to be the issue, and since my honda runs, i don’t think carburetor is the problem either. Whats next? Should I replace the entire wire harness? Should I take the entire engine apart and check each individual part as I reinstall everything? Tbh idk where to go from here. Starting to get frustrated with this now.

  • @ColinTaylor-jc6kb
    @ColinTaylor-jc6kb 6 років тому

    If I want to just get the engine running I only need to use the 3 wires comeing from stator to cdi to coil to ht lead don’t I ??? Plz anser me ASAP I washed my qaud and now won’t start but I don’t need rectifier and all wires all I need for it run is state wires and cdi isent it ???

  • @TerrorTales4271998
    @TerrorTales4271998 6 років тому +5

    so if my engine say 48 m3 on the head its a 50cc? i thought it was a 90cc let me know im very interested in how you can tell by the engine

    • @TerrorTales4271998
      @TerrorTales4271998 3 роки тому

      @@jonishaan6626 you guys got reported for being scammers

  • @JeffreySuggs-fy1pj
    @JeffreySuggs-fy1pj 9 місяців тому

    On a 125cc Chinese ATV what is the little black box under the seat that has 2 wires coming from it?

  • @nickmortimer3068
    @nickmortimer3068 8 років тому +6

    Yes I do but the thing is that I tested every thing the stator, coil, spark plug you name it, it's just not getting any spark

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  8 років тому +3

      Nick, Given that U tested everything and got good readings, I would disconnect and float the on off wire and hook an extra ground between the motor and frame and wire harness green wire and the ground on the spark coil just to be sure, if no spark, Ur CDI must be dead... Should cost around $15 on eBay.... If U live near the Hudson Valley of NY, I could look at it for you... Let me know how it all turns out.... Thanks for the info, asking, watching, and commenting!!!

    • @putonthearmerofgod2037
      @putonthearmerofgod2037 3 роки тому

      @@HarveySpooner hey boss I have a 125 pantera motorcycle and my cbi box got on my muffler and got burnt can I bypass it

  • @chriszbodula1894
    @chriszbodula1894 Рік тому

    Can you explain the simpler systems that don’t have batteries and a starter. If I could get/find a real schematic I wouldn’t be asking. I “assume” the CDI gets power from the generator portion of the stator and the spark signal comes from the igniter pulse. Also, what voltage does the generator put out to the CDI and Coil if there is no voltage regulator. Im assuming it’s AC but don’t know the voltage. Im asking because I would like to build a tester that sends a pulse to the coil to do a quick easy coil test for process of elimination. Would also like to remove the plug, spin the crankshaft with my drill and measure the generator and igniter voltage coming out under fairly consistent rotation speeds.

  • @jonathanwise4252
    @jonathanwise4252 6 років тому

    I've replaces stator coil cdi plug regulator .eliminated kill switch from cdi.all resistance ohms are good.what could it be.no spark..defective new cdi?it cut off when son hit a bump and it only sparked weak once after.then I replaced all parts still no spark???

  • @121fatcat
    @121fatcat 6 років тому

    I have a Sachs 125 madass it has 3 yellow wires coming out of the motor the stator. Can you help me understand where the wires go

  • @z33hayden23
    @z33hayden23 5 років тому +1

    I have this engine with the same electricle problems but it has a 50cc head instead of a 70cc or 110cc head! But thanks for helping me fix my engine!

  • @greghercher2068
    @greghercher2068 Рік тому

    I just checked the stator on my neighbor's kids quad and sure enough the black/red has OL showing so is likely bad. I ordered another stator for them but the wire seems good, is there possibly some way to repair the stator?

  • @redneck24-65
    @redneck24-65 2 роки тому

    I have an ssr110 pitbike and the wires are almost the exact same. If all the wires read the correct ohms leading up to the Cdi and I still don’t have spark could it be the cdi?

  • @wenzenuf221
    @wenzenuf221 5 років тому

    Hi. I got this unnamed branded Chinese 50cc 2 stroke quad. It started and ran fine and then wouldn't anymore. There isn't any spark. I've tested and measured best I can namely the coil and stator. But I can't find a CDI box on this engine. Does it work without s conventional cdi system? Where could the problem lie? Blown pick up coil on stator? Please help. Tnx. In the same vain, just out of curiosity, how do common lawnmower engines run without a battery? How is the spark created to fire and keep the motor running? Cheers and tnx for this helpful video.

  • @flipatron24
    @flipatron24 6 місяців тому

    My wire harness only has 4 wires coming out. 2 yellow, 1 green and a blue/white. How do I wire it up?

  • @BigRichEHhthang100
    @BigRichEHhthang100 2 роки тому

    My stator has
    Black
    Brown
    White
    Grey
    ? Little confuse

  • @joshseigner5724
    @joshseigner5724 3 роки тому

    Hey I have a 110cc and I put all new wiring harness on it with a new CDI box and everything else is all new and I have no spark but it has power to try and start what should I do and check thanks

  • @ronniedyer881
    @ronniedyer881 2 роки тому

    Yes I have a 93 Honda Fourtrax 300 and watching your video hear about the state and all the all the wires coming out of the motor but unfortunately I have a blue and yellow or purple and blue stripe and two yellows and my green so I know you said the green is a ground what would the purple and blue stripe be and what with the blue with a yellow stripe go to

  • @alvinkipp9791
    @alvinkipp9791 Рік тому

    I hsve a 125cc coolster mountopz I picked up for my son motor was shot so I got another new harness kill switch etc I hooked it all up it will not start with the start button the key cuts power on and off lights work but won't Start and run unless I jump the silinoed with a screw driver fires up and runs do you have any ideas can I run a wire from switch to cdi ? If so what wire would that be thanks for your time

  • @andrewstartek8910
    @andrewstartek8910 5 років тому +6

    Thanks a lot man I watched all your videos went in the shop and cut the black and white wire coming from the cdi and boom I got spark it runs great other then it won't shut off lol thanx again

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  5 років тому +1

      Hey Andrew, I always love it when a plan comes together and an ATV comes back to life!!!! Thanks for telling me that Ur quad is back to life, watching, and commenting!!!

    • @tebibyte2357
      @tebibyte2357 5 років тому

      I just bought a new ignition coil

  • @Ahmed-kk1cg
    @Ahmed-kk1cg 9 місяців тому

    Hi,I m glad u r a good teacher I have a a 49cc Yamaha scooter

    • @Ahmed-kk1cg
      @Ahmed-kk1cg 9 місяців тому

      I have a 49cc Yamaha 1988 scooter I was just wite the cdi to motor from motor is black white yellow red n white and from cdi is black,red n white,black n white,black n red, so black is going black and also ground then coil,red n white is going red n white,then black n white is kill switch there it's go and second black n red there go because from motor these two I Don't have it plz can u help me so I can start without battery and I know from motor white and yellow white for light I m not using that two,I need here a switch or lagulater here where kill switch and and black n red wire go because I Don't have spark
      Plz help me if u have time

  • @tobiassandoval1556
    @tobiassandoval1556 3 роки тому

    I have five wires coming from the motor it self one is light green and red, dark green and black, blue and red, pink, last one is purple or brown? How do I hook up those and to what?

  • @joeatkins7260
    @joeatkins7260 3 місяці тому

    I know this is an old post but thought i would give it a shot and ask ,i hav 90cc kymco mongoose atv ,that wont do anything no crank no lights ,when i turn on the switch to start it ,but when i bought it ,i put new switch, new battery and cleaned old gas out and carburetor and when i tried starting it it cranked and ran but was running wide opening, so i took carburetor bak off and checked everything and put bak on it wouldn't do anything now ,also has new starter relay and plug and i checked gap on plug ,should i follow this video ,if anyone sees this would reaaly appreciate any help thanks

  • @Moons91
    @Moons91 Рік тому

    My yellow , white , and green , Colling out off the engine are all beeping when I beep it with the multimeter is this normal

  • @OtisToia-cy1tg
    @OtisToia-cy1tg Місяць тому

    Hi I have a smc barossa 250cc is it the same wiring

  • @anthonyyoung7344
    @anthonyyoung7344 3 роки тому

    I'm working on a chinese 110 atv it's got a new wiring harness with all the new bits it want turn over spark or anything it's dead what will make it do that.

  • @charboi1
    @charboi1 5 років тому

    Any ideas my stator has white, white red, yellow red, black red, black then my loom same as your stator Thanks

  • @jasonhall8289
    @jasonhall8289 3 роки тому

    I have spark but want start will it start if I dont have a ground wire to frame

  • @jjmac099
    @jjmac099 5 років тому

    hi harvey thanks for the video i followed it and my wiring is identical to the one you have in the video. i was able to get the lights/horn an starter but i still get no spark to the plug. will be replacing the CDI next. but not sure what else to check on. got this from someone that has had it sitting out for a while so slowly getting back into running order.

  • @johndavidiet3214
    @johndavidiet3214 Рік тому

    please tell me where the 2nd wire goes on pulse generator

  • @danielgarate8855
    @danielgarate8855 6 років тому

    I need help please show me how put they CDI i don't now wish wireless is the ground ans sprack plug

  • @lawrencesmith7478
    @lawrencesmith7478 5 років тому

    2008 50cc scooter won't start. Ran in 2018. So-so start but got it running. Ran OK for 3 months. Couldn't start one day to go to work. Ugh!
    Things I've done.
    - Checked battery volts = 12.5V
    - Installed new spark plug = good spark
    - Installed new carb
    - New gas filter. Checked gas flow post-filter using cylinder vacuum = Good flow.
    Now what? Stumped.
    After installing carb, do I need to prime? Doesn't look like gas is getting to spark plug. Plug looks dry.
    Any suggestions or questions?
    Thanks for the support!

  • @talkingwithed5474
    @talkingwithed5474 4 роки тому

    Hello I have a question about my Chinese atv. So I cannot find the problem because my atv cranks but it doe not start. There is nothing going to the coil. I noticed that my ground wire has a black and a green coming off of it and it is getting really hot when I press the start on my engine. Can you help me out please?

  • @jamespolk4070
    @jamespolk4070 2 роки тому

    I got no readings at the black/red. What does that mean?

  • @stevencasey8574
    @stevencasey8574 3 роки тому +1

    Finally help exact same motor I have my goodness this is been a booger to find anything about.

  • @racoonman100
    @racoonman100 Рік тому

    Hello and Thankyou for your video I’ve got a loncin quad I’ve been working on. It’s on hold at the moment but I got it running and was ab oh t yo start painting it etc and all of a sudden no spark? Oh well I’ll get back to it soon

  • @z0m123
    @z0m123 Рік тому

    I checked frame ground with green wire for pickup and I'm getting no readings :/

  • @binodchetteri7772
    @binodchetteri7772 2 роки тому

    Hello sir
    How to connect engine wire to spark plug to get engine start without battery
    Yamaha Rx100

  • @williamlance7362
    @williamlance7362 3 роки тому

    I have a Honda four Trac and I changed the stater and it started then it s not getting spark what could it be

  • @joetellez8646
    @joetellez8646 5 років тому

    I have a Honda trx200 can I use a CDI box from a different bike

  • @edwinromero6032
    @edwinromero6032 7 років тому

    My go kart works and turn on but after a while it turns off them won't spark for a lil bit after it cools down it spark again

  • @TheWildbill1983
    @TheWildbill1983 7 років тому +1

    Great video! Very easy to understand. I have a 2010 Gio 200cc atv. I'm having trouble with intermittent spark. Every reading is good. My black red is only 295. My blk yel is only getting .5. New cdi blk yel got 1.1 now only 0.5. Any help or suggestions would be great. I'm thinking cut everything out and start over? Looks like someone was experimenting with subpar connections/splices.

  • @Scrapy-ih7ob
    @Scrapy-ih7ob Рік тому

    I love watching your videos. because it takes sane m person to understand the moron that wired and configured these unit, they are so inconsistent with what use for ground, green blk, or even the hot, blk white or red, etc... i had to unwrap my entire harness today take deep dive try figure it out. Well, I got a push button replace into handlebar for push to start to work, on/ff didn't, Key works, now i have no spark, think the CDI is dead. ordered New one, after this video tomorrow weather permitting, do some checking OHm checks. as always, these videos are perfect.

  • @jchelper2863
    @jchelper2863 7 років тому +2

    Hey Harvey. Wanted to say thank you. Got my son's Tao Tao 110 running for the first time after 6 years of just sitting there. Pulled the kill switch wire from the CDI as you pointed out, sprayed some WD-40 in the carb and it started. Ordered a new carb from eBay for $15 and it starts right up, every time.
    Not sure which of the 5 or 6 redundant kill switches is the culprit, but hoping I can remove them all except for the key and the left side handle bar red button kill switch.
    Question: Assuming I can just splice the "kill" wire to the CDI to only the key and the red button on the handle bar and I'll be able to shut the quad off? In the mean time, using the carb's choke to kill the engine, which works every time.

  • @janbaillargeon2763
    @janbaillargeon2763 5 років тому

    I just picked up a 2016 TaoTao scooter the only way I got the tests it is with test light. I checked all the wires that go to the cdi box the coil the stator . They're all good and I still ain't got no spark. And after looking at your video . I'm thinking of sending wire harness . And that's going to be mess . Would you agree bet it could be in the wire harness ???

  • @laransly5129
    @laransly5129 3 роки тому

    How do i hook up a 4 wire keyed switch to start the 110 pocket rocket

  • @joepratt4272
    @joepratt4272 6 років тому +1

    have a coolster while checking spark it sparks and then quits until you bump it again sparks about 5 times and quits again any answers are greatly appreciated

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  6 років тому

      Hey Joe!!! I would start by disconnecting the black wire with the white stripe from the CDI, (disconnect it such that it can be reconnected in the future), I have found that if the engine off circuit is active, it may spark a few times and then stop.... Let me know how this turns out.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!

  • @ElForastero10287
    @ElForastero10287 6 років тому

    Hi Harvey today some friend gime a mini quad ATV90 and I have no spark but also I don’t have a starter motor but I can’t find the diagram Manual I was wondering if I can have you advise to se were I can find some info or if you can gime some tips also I don’t have start button I make crank manually but once I connect the battery it I start to crank

  • @larryholtzer58
    @larryholtzer58 7 років тому +1

    I have a 2012 razor 170 for the kids cdi box is gone how do i determine if it is ac or dc fired i have a new ac unit and the old one looks like it is ac but the wiring is different is there a simple way to work this box on it.

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  7 років тому

      Hey Larry, It is a Polaris???? Does it look like this will work, www.ebay.com/itm/250cc-QUAD-ELECTRICS-200cc-Zongshen-Lifan-Ducar-Razor-CDI-COIL-WIRE-HARNESS-/331694732439?hash=item4d3a8bf497:g:Ht0AAOSwo6lWIfgG&vxp=mtr , ??? Let me know, thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!

  • @tracybragg6005
    @tracybragg6005 7 років тому

    hey nice video got a 110cc china atv my problem is that it fire when it wants to and it acts like it want to run then you think you got spark then you dont do you thinks its the cdi acting up it looks just like the bike in the video but a 110cc thanks

  • @beaniemccheese9990
    @beaniemccheese9990 7 місяців тому

    I got a kazuma falcon with a chopped up wire harness. I had to hook up a push button to start it. No spark. Mine only has 4 wires coming out of stator. Black, white, yellow, blue. Was going to get a wire a new harness but they all have 5 wires? Any ideas what I can do??

    • @beaniemccheese9990
      @beaniemccheese9990 7 місяців тому

      Nevermind on that I found the green wire burnt off. Still no spark.

  • @joshuavillarreal3649
    @joshuavillarreal3649 3 роки тому

    I’m going to try your diagnostic. I really wanna learn these Chinese quads.. its interesting ..

  • @rukadorehosa3917
    @rukadorehosa3917 2 роки тому

    So found that I had no ohms from the red/black from the stator. I took off the cover and found a bolt that holds the stator on had worked itself out and beat the stator up a lot. I bought another stator and still have no fire/spark and still get no reading from the red/black. Any suggestions?

  • @trueamerican4701
    @trueamerican4701 Рік тому

    Do I need the magneto hooked up for spark

  • @MRVICT187
    @MRVICT187 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid. I got one question though, I bought an aftermarket wiring harness, but the red (power) wire from the battery is pretty thin. Is it possible that it's not thick enough to pass the current to the rest of the wiring harness ?

  • @chad7585
    @chad7585 5 років тому +1

    Just stumbled upon this video as I recently bought a taotao 124cc for my son. Had it running great and then it started spitting and sputtering so I got a new carb unlike the Chinese one where you cant access the float without drilling. Anyways didnt fix the problem. I'm noticing excess fuel coming out of choke side and I've adjusted carb every way I know how. I'm thinking either a sticking intake valve on compression or could a bad cdi box cause such a weak spark that it's not burning all the fuel in the chamber? All I know is it backfires out muffler and carb which says valves to me but also I've got way too rich a mixture and my plug is black. Thanks for any help!

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  5 років тому

      Hey VIP!!! I think Ur intake valve is adjusted too tight, U need to loosen it up a bit and it will probably start right up... U should adjust the exhaust valve as well.... For the China stuff and the old machines that I'm running, I tend to run with the valves on the looser side.... I rather hear them tap than have them too tight and have them burn a valve drop one for over heating!!!! I hope this helps, Ur first instincts about the valves are probably right.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!

    • @chad7585
      @chad7585 5 років тому

      Hey you're welcome great video! It does start good and idles fine but under throttle, any throttle is when is backfires and sputters so I will try to adjust valves. Thanks!

  • @erickgarcia2891
    @erickgarcia2891 7 років тому +1

    hello i have a 110cc chinese quad i have no spark i did all test i have ground to cdi and to engine/frame stator isnt shorted to ground neither the pulse generator. pulse generator has 127 ohms to ground i snipped off the black/white wire already for kill switch. stator black/red i get 365 ohms. what could it be ? theres continuity from stator blue/white to cdi blue /white so wiring is good ?

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  7 років тому

      Hey Erick, I realized that I may not have been as clear as I could be when I made the video U watched, so, I decide to redo it as part of a playlist for troubleshooting China QUads and pit bike, here is the link, take a look and let me know what U think..... ua-cam.com/play/PLXe3Ur9S11oeX8iOzfD80fe5fpK37tg5W.html , Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!

  • @andrewperera4270
    @andrewperera4270 2 роки тому

    Hey Harvey, white and yellow wires coming out of the engine, do u connect them to the battery to charge the battery???

  • @twistyfishy
    @twistyfishy 2 роки тому

    I’m confused what are those wires called and where do they go to

  • @benkeirstead9227
    @benkeirstead9227 7 років тому

    Picked up a baja wilderness 250 atv for my kids and it didn't have a battery. Starts right up with the pull cord but the kids find it hard to pull. I bought a battery for it, didn't have a ground wire so I ran a new wire from the battery negative to the frame and another one from the frame to the starter bracket. It turns over fine but won't start, if I unhook the battery ground and pull start it will run. Once running, if I attach the ground wire back to the battery it will spark and die. Also, if I run a battery with booster cables to the starter alone and crank it with the key on it will run. I checked the ground wiring and it checks out ok, but with the battery involved in the system it won't run. Any ideas where to go with it?

  • @robertlongley6115
    @robertlongley6115 Рік тому

    Need ur help with 4Wheeler not firing bought new harness and still no fire from spark plug

  • @erniegallegos8622
    @erniegallegos8622 Рік тому

    Mr spooner got an ATV no power coming from new stator can it be a flywheel issue?

  • @samkhanhphane6256
    @samkhanhphane6256 7 років тому

    I have 110cc atv cracking too long won't start. Please help carb has been cleaned out. Got spark and maybe my valves setting and timing is off. I also don't know how to set timing but I know how to do valves adjust. Please help thank you.

  • @marchood99
    @marchood99 2 роки тому

    Hi buddy I have 1 110cc atv that will only spark once after flicking the kill switch in and off. Have read lots on these but no real solutions. Tried to take the black and white out the CDI that should disable the kill switch but still get nothing. Any ideas ? Tried 2 different stators, cdis, solinoids, even coils but no change. The loom is new also. Any help would be greatly appreciated

  • @MrDramaticc
    @MrDramaticc 6 років тому

    Hello Harvey I have a Tao Tao 250 cc that I'm trying to get running. It was running before I took off the wire harness and replace it with a new one. Colors have been switched on a few wires and i can no longer get it to start. Please help!

  • @seanorafferty3067
    @seanorafferty3067 3 роки тому

    How do I splice into my harness to add the extra coil for my dual cylinder I bought a brand new china wiring harness that has a single coil from what I understand I can just slice into it??

  • @user-gd9kj3ce8w
    @user-gd9kj3ce8w 5 років тому +2

    Hey I'm having a problem with my SSR 110cc China pitbike I changed everything but still won't work

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  5 років тому +1

      Hey Jelly, U have no spark???? I would cut the black wire with the white stripe that goes to the cdi such that it can be reconnected easily and let both ends float, see if it sparks now, if yes, there is something wrong with Ur engine stop circuit... Start there and let me know how U make out.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!!