From the POV of chronic fatigue, the resistance is the body letting me know its boundaries because my mental capacity is always bigger than my physical capacity.
This line from Seth was so powerful that I felt compelled to write it down and speak it out loud. I felt some big releases as I did that. I feel like I just cleared a major block here. Thank you. Here’s the line: > “I was able to shift from resisting all of it, to approaching it like, ‘okay, I’m going to do this, and I’m going to beat them at their own game. I’m going to become so powerful and so creative and so full of life energy, in my mission and my purpose, that it doesn’t matter what kind of toxicity is attached to the system. I am more powerful than that.”
@@jcat7553 It's so important! Perhaps the hardest part of coming out of the woods - and back into the matrix - for me, has been the reality that elements within our society cannot continue as they are. There needs to be real, genuine, effective resistance to the attacks on our liberties and sovereignty. We got sleepy and forgot that there is a price that needs to be paid for freedom and human dignity, again and again. It is difficult for men to summon the courage that is demanded of us in these times, partly because we have lost our faith and need to get it back, and partly because there has been a polarity-reversal and courage is harder for men to access on an energetic level.
Yeah, no. One needs grounding With awareness of what’s not going to over stimulate the CNS . In a more vigorous yoga class I found myself triggered and tried to push beyond with 10’ grounding yet No, I quickly returned to hyper reactive while attempting humour what h only came out as threatening! Shit what a lesson in how fundamental a foundation is! Dr Aimie Apigian shares relevant but different tools & knowledge. ❤🌹🤩👏
Also, thank you for specifically mentioning seeing kids pee their pants because they weren’t allowed to use the restroom. That happened to me in the first grade. I asked over and over and over and made it clear I needed to go. She wouldn’t let me, for absolutely no good reason. So I peed in my seat. Not a little. I emptied my bladder. And through this awareness right now in this moment, I now have more understanding and love for the bladder issues that I’ve had for a long time. Most likely has a whole lot to do to with that experience. ❤
Happened to me as well in 1st grade, although it was the librarian who wouldn't allow me to go. I asked her several times, and even said I was going to pee in my pants, and she still refused to let me go. I remember just thinking, well, here goes, too bad for the carpet!!! My mother gave her a piece of her mind when she was called to bring in some fresh underwear and clothes for me to finish the school day. Unbelievable.
Me too! It was kindergarten And the teacher made an example of in front of the class, making me mop it up myself. My mom came in while I was crying and mopping still in my wet clothes. She cussed the teacher out and threw the mop out the door!
I knew a classmate in the first grade who this.happened to. They laughed at her. :( I was very sad and upset and it made the mental list of why I didn't want my kids to go to public school. And I will be homeschooling them. XD
Omg, I'm so sad to hear this happened to you. These awful experiences are life changing (for the negative) to a little innocent child in a classroom. Power to your healing... 🙏
Two mind blowing moments. I equate money with authority and authority with being hurt. Second, I played sports as a way to garner my dad's attention since he paid a lot of attention to both my brothers who played football, baseball and wrestled. I chose softball. And I was a catcher. Never saw that decision as "trauma response" until you mentioned playing goalie. I got to see what was going on on the field (control), I had to keep an eye on runners (hypervigilance), calm the pitcher (being responsible for someone else's emotions) - the burden was psychological not cardiovascular. Wow.
@Irene Lyon just another thought here from reading this. I'd love a book of transcripts of your videos! I take sabbath as a break from electronics and for me it is the perfect day to dive into a book. Do you offer transcripts of your videos? Is there access to that? Just curious. Thanks so much!!!
Hiya Irene, ive only discovered your incredible knowledge in 2024 So interested in Smart Body, Smart Mind. Will there be more opportunities to access this year pls? Thank you for everything xx
Hi Irene and Seth😊 I'm a student of yours Irene. I think I'm beginning to move forward, and that my nervous system is releasing trauma. I've been practicing daily what I'm learning in 21 Day course and recycling through it for the second time. I began it in October. Yesterday I listened to your interview Irene with the woman who found healing through your somatic practice and through regenerative agriculture. What really resonated with me was your thought Irene that healing also happens through other means along with somatic healing. I hope I have that right. "Following my impulse" has lead me to more healing. And it is helping me to find direction that feels true and holistic amidst such deep apathy that I have been living in. I had always been physically fit and practiced fitness for 30 years, but when I fell more and more into trauma or when trauma began to control my life, I stopped exercising. Even though I was working on ways that I thought would heal my life. Your video here confirms what my impulse is telling me. To just begin moving in any way, but without the goal of losing weight, looking good, or gaining muscle. Just move to heal, and because I need to heal.
Artist/ anarchist here....broke...and so much trauma stored in my body as a romantic that hasn't ever really had a true love that loves me back remotely half way. No kids/51/ no retirement. ..yikes. No amount of healthy eating or detoxing will work til I get myself regulated emotionally. Thanks you two!
Same and Im 46 and have managed to do all the conventional things that humans do in the 3D. I have though helped others rise up and live their purpose as I always saw that as my sole purpose in life. Now having been in the ‘woods’ for the last 5 years doing the inner work I can’t help but feel abit left behind in all aspects ‘career, kids, family, home’ the lot. Going back into the matrix is daunting seeing what is happening out there in the world I have to find my place again - my new place in the world
wliwni (thank you) I really connect with Seth, I'm also way off grid. I also see the spiritual bypass many are in, using spirituality to retreat from the true healing process. I am from a indigenous culture, not participating with the colonizing dominate culture, but also not engaging with my culture. Your work is so helpful. wliwni wawasalmegwadich ( thank you, blessings )
Thank you for talking about how we may not know when to stop pushing and that’s when the injury happens. As a personal trainer I didn’t know my limits and hurt myself a lot. I’d also add. Since I’ve become a trauma-informed personal trainer and I’m finding people tend to fluctuate between the 2 extremes. For that reason they need to learn safety in their bodies before stretching their window of tolerance (as you called it ‘edge’) otherwise disconnection or even dissociation can happen.
I hear you. I’m an ex PT and I’ve had to get back in tune with the overwork I put my body through during my time as a PT and life in general - always considered myself as ‘strong 💪🏽’. Chronic fatigue hit me with inflammation to boot. It’s been a tough journey to reconnect with myself integrating my inner and outer as to not be separate. I feel so much more now after seeking the support of a neuro somatic integration therapist. It’s been a game changer for me. I spent 5 years going inward and doing the work but this last CNS integrative work has really highlighted what I was bypassing or ignoring for so long because of a life of trauma.
Seth is a such a great example of positive masculinity! We need more men like him educating other men (and women). Thanks for this very insightful video ❤
Same thoughts/feels! I try to think of Seth when I visualize what is desirable and possible for my two eldest children, two young boys (who are still stuck with me and their father in a dysregulated toxic family system) I feel a little hopeful, then. The eldest was also a preemie (who definitely wanted to come out of my stressfilled womb at the time), like Seth.
Hey guys, happy to correct you that people living in counter-culture ways do watch your videos ;) after having spent time in different communities, having gone to rainbow gatherings and living in caves and judged money and society as the antichrist, i absolutely agree that there is not much trauma-awareness in these movements. it's mainly 'love and light' that turns a blind eye to the shadow and deep seated woundedness. Conflict resolution skills? Well, there are the occasional heart-sharing circles but mostly people don't see the medicine in this. Luckily, through wanting to establish my own practice and realising that I actually do like money, and having enough of it, I started moving away from this lifestyle. So I can relate to your story, Seth and was glad and surprised to hear about your past. Because, I also didn't think there are any Hippies doing nervous system practices ;) Looking forward to deepen my practice and also curious where it will lead me. Blessings to both of you.
It's really a pity I didn't come across this work back when I was a fresh massage therapy graduate in Vancouver in 2000. I ended up sabotaging my career and the relationship of my dreams due to trauma I wasn't getting to the bottom of. I knew all sorts of healing modalities and spiritual stuff, was pretty embodied in a lot of ways, but I had severe undiagnosed ADHD and tendency to fall into severe depression.
I am where Seth was: isolated, resistance to exercise, making money and want to disappear from society. I know i suffer from cPTSD following a very traumatic situationship.
Same. There’s part of me that wanted to run away and live in the woods for a long long time, but I have been living in a city for the past few years and I am really starting to feel how I can carve out a niche for myself and balance the toxicity of masculinity and mainstream culture vs solitude and nature
What a great conversation! Just wanted to step in to share my perspective, my partner and I have been living off grid for over 10 years, not in an intentional community. We are very much part of our community and our purpose is not to disconnect from society, but rather to be the change we wish to see in this world. We work very hard sustaining our off grid life and are much more physicly active than we were when we were on grid. Love to you reading this.
Thanks, it's very grounded and realistic. My nervous system got completely disregulated with the recent wars and elections. I am trying to connect to myself and get stronger
Irene and Seth; you can’t know, of course just how synchronous your posting of this video is for me right now, but I’m so grateful for your doing so! Thank you. This video sort of capstones a series of experiences of the last 48 hrs, answers some deep questions, and dovetails incredibly with some profound insights gained during my somatic therapy session yesterday. This seems like a response from the Universe. Which, in itself, is a hopeful thing! Seth, thank you for sharing these details of your healing journey with work, earning, and The Capitalist System. I am so grateful for the realness of what you shared, as well as the hope. I love when the two of you post a discussion. Your joint video about cold-plunging in paradise was the one that introduced me to the existence of this work nearly a year ago. It spoke directly to my lived experience and deep questions. Seth’s perspective has some striking similarities to my own, and so often addresses specific questions I have, and I listen to Irene literally every day and gain some new insight every time. Just listening to her speak is healing and regulating for my system. Thanks, you two! Gotta get off to work, now.
Thanks 🙏🏻 ❤️ This video was so great for me at this point. I’m doing the 21 day NS tune up. I’m beginning to realize how much stored up survival stress I have in my body. I’m also beginning to see that when I’m in a good place I tend to believe that all is well and that I will never go back to a dysregulated state and that the trauma responses will magically have evaporated for good. Just like I think nothing will ever change when I’m in acute survival stress activation. I guess that it’s a sign or effect of early/developmental trauma to swing between these extremes. I also realize that I might have a “flawed” or unrealistic picture or expectation of what healing will look like - or maybe I have absolutely no idea how it works - which makes me blind to the progress I actually make. I can’t wait to start SBSM in September!
You two! I was JUST having these stuck survival energy thoughts - in my feverish overloaded single mother of three trying to find a good enough job whilst divorcing a covert narc/traumatised person not in recovery and giving up my unschooling-life dream - and thought about Seth's q&a responses that I still remember ('It's your dysregulated nervous system creating these thoughts') I started 21 day course in september 2020 and SBSM in march 2021, it helped me to come out of functional freeze and realize I've never lived in a safe home/family, yet. I feel more 'comfortable' with feeling my sensations emotions (not yet with expressing them). More 'normal' in all that I experience as a human being. Toxic shame has come up (and often left) in big ways. I feel such anger before I even listen to this interview. 'Seth and Irene both have never had 3 young children to care for in this toxic society, whilst fighting off a dysfunctional co-parent who dysregulates everything you try to co-regulate. All the while being aware and informed and thus KNOWING the harm this does to your own and the children's system (a lot can be reversed later, but STILL) and feeling the frustrated hopelesness about still having to wait to heal in a safe environment. They have NO idea! Easy for them to say: heal your resistance!' I feel shame expressing this and I'm grateful that I understand how that works now, because of you two :)
I feel you. I'm still extremely traumatized from leaving my narc ex in 1994. I'm also a TI, as happens to us nonconformists. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
@@edie4321 thank you for the support and prayers! They do help, I'm sure of it. A good - maybe even ideal - job is on the horizon, maybe, finally. My system is screaming (constant headaches, muscle aches, insomnia, ... have started at last) because I am still stuck 'at home' for the moment. What does 'TI' mean? :)
what a beautiful and thoughtful response. i had the same and we carry the load untill we turn and face it. Its a long slow hard road - well done soldier.
I was that single mum of three with dead beat alcoholic hubby after ten years of hoping! Looking back now at 70 I know I could of given myself a break with making easier meals for less preparation time & use that time to be with, listen to & play with my kids. I was stuck in a position of What we ate was key with out realizing my busyness role modeling was not feeding their hearts 1st. Work, unaddressed trauma, abusive & neglectful mom & all the fears ran my mind. I’d learned EFT but had no appreciation to prioritize it or calm my energy back then. I was so afraid I thought about how I could make money at night while the kids slept! Prostitution was all I could think of & thank goodness I wasn’t able to go there. The dishes, housekeeping & meals are secondary to making our kids know they are safe, heard & well loved! ❤❤❤
@@ledacedar6253i could have written this except I'm living it right now. Also thought about that line of work in my desperation! Also have a huge focus on nutrition and feeding the kids right but I am neglecting to feed their hearts as much as I could. Thank you for this reminder! ❤😢
Money has been made ugly. Maybe the goal was to make us rebellious of the idea of wealth, for more division, addiction and hatreds. To be honest the taxes are not fair. May God heal the money, the health, the economy, politics, security systems, education system. Our inside and outside beings in the name of Jesus 🙏. It's not our fault, we don't need to feel guilty or make others feel like outsiders. It's enough. We need to be aware of it and be patient. May God help us to move when he needs us to move, and take time to heal when it's time to heal. Thank you for sharing.
I can so relate to Seth’s experience. I resist work and making money when deep inside I want to make a difference in the world . I sometimes don’t understand why I feel so stuck and what’s the resistance about ? I think I am equating working with unfairness and being placed in a position of being abused . Being abused by the people that have authority over me, which has been my childhood experience, as well as I have recreated that with bosses. Bottom line, I want to feel useful. I want to work . I want to be part of society. I want to get unstuck! Hiding is painful. Not living is painful.
I could have written that, except I wasnt aware I was painfully hiding, but yeah, that's the toxic shame bit that is permanently being re-lived through all my triggers and the thought of having to apply for disability benefits feels like a nightmare, just as is thinking about job prospects that would imply me hiding my disabilties, pretending to be fine as I used to. It feels like such a dilemma.
One of my challenges I had at my workplaces was that I regularly had flashbacks. Those resulted in fights, freaking out, and meltdowns. I ran away or I just walked away and never went back, etc. I made a fool out of myself. I also had compulsions. I used to have lots of somatic issues, and they still around sometimes, and are messengers.
Thanks to you both for this amazing video. Seth is such an inspiration for me. I am 51 and just coming off of over 20 years of rootless living outside the system and society. alot of it in the forests of Oregon and CA and Maui. Tree houses,caves,squat shacks and cabins,and yurts,and work trade,and communities. I could go on. But very much used to be an anti capitilist anarchist and filled with so much Anger. Lots of substance abuse. Just in the last 1 1/2 years i have started to just STOP. Stop running,and numbing,and resisting. Lots of softening,allowing,and surender. Im so glad I have found your offerings at this juncture. Life really is a miracle. I feel like I may finally be getting to know myself and perhaps my Dharma will be revealed at some point here.🙂💓🙏
Hey @banjolution, Seth here. I was just online and happened to see your comment come in. Definitely lots of parallels in our story! And from your handle, maybe even more - when I took off into the counterculture it was with my backpack and my banjo :) Way to go learning to STOP with the old patterns, That's step one, and often the hardest part. Now it may be useful to get into doing this work! It sure was crucial for me :) Wishing you all the best on your healing journey.
Thank you Irene and Seth. Irene I've been filling you since April and you've led me a profound path of recovery. Thank you so much for doing what you do. ❤
Thank you… this talk was so vulnerable and beautiful I love hearing your story it’s like a fairy tale! Just baked an apple cake and lentil soup in London on a stormy night listening to this… almost about to buy the woods to escape , I think you may have just changed my life and potentially saved me from isolation! Thank you!
Thank you for talking about how to work in a work place that might not be 100% aligned with our values/ purpose! I've tried what you have said and even though I'm now on sick leave (needed this for some deeper healing processes), I'm planning to go back part time doing what you suggested. I am lucky enough to have flexible and very supportive colleagues...
Really, really connecting with this with my workplace in mind. I am still healing from the past verbal abuse and mistreatment. Afraid to leave after hubby was in and out of work...so needed to stay to have food on the table and to keep the lights on. From all of the pushing, now my health issues have peaked with burnout and an autoimmune process 😢 Last year, my situation has shifted to a somewhat better place within the same company....been there at the company as a whole for a total for almost 25 years. However, there are still some very overwhelming things to me there (esp still having the past bullying trauma in my body). Just started watching your videos, working through the resistance freebie and just joined in on the 21 days. Working on my awareness and grounding.... starting to feel slight shifts. So glad I found your take on all of this ❤ Looking forward to joining SBSM in the next round!
This work you are doing is so amazing. I think the reason a lot of therapy doesn't work is because it doesn't get to the deep roots of the problems like this does. Unless the origin of why you are doing this to yourself is uncovered and healed, it will just keep resurfacing in different ways. I feel like someone actually truly understands here. Thank you for making these videos and helping us!!
So many people are not aware they have had “trauma” and need healing. Others don’t want to do anything about it even when they do recognize they are broken and need help. While in that place others in their lives are hurt/damaged by their unwillingness to help themselves. So sad to see talented amazing people unable to cope in society, reach their potential and be in healthy relationships.😢
Nervous system have been disregulated for many years. I went from being in an industry that I loved, book trade to now working a tedious, lower paying job with very little satisfaction and mental challenge or growth. At the age of 56 I would like to start manifesting my purpose in life , to feel alive and fulfilled. I also have not had a relationship as a lesbian for nine years.
wow. As someone with lots of trauma and ADHD who has been unemployed for so long this was incredibly healing for me. I really want to try somatic work now and hopefully better what i can from my shattered brain and body
Thankyou guys, so helpful! Be aware of the evil but more powerful than it. Embodiment is a super power I'm discovering. Thankyou both so much for talking about this!
I loved this so much, been telling myself that I am going to start moving my body because I have been sitting consuming videos for years now, You know when you first start awakening and searching for truth it becomes the burning desire and with knowledge comes freedom, Now I feel that I have what I need spiritually I know I need to take better care of the physical body. Thanks for the talk, really going to work on this resisting moving my body!
Totally. I just went into the garden and kinda looked around for a while. I barelt ever do that these days and through all of covid i did crap all. I want to make it nice for myself and the kids ..i want to go back in time and make it ncier for the kids too but i cant do that i was so messed up and ptsd that i just survived. And i feel bad that we had no nice life. We had peace though and thats what i needed. But we didnt have thw ability to go anywhere because i didnt make friend with peopl with cars. Ah god thats beside the point. One tends to keep picking at threads. What i wanted to say is outside in the garden just wsndering was such a nice experince in and of itself. Maybe tomorrow i will go and just sit there and feel myself lie on the grass and look at the sky. Its getting dark and cold here now. But damn. Where have i been for three years? Its been insane. Its kinda good to know that others have been in the same paralysed situation even though it sucks its at least nice. To know we are a lot of us in the same boat. Stiff and tired and forgotten how to even live.
@@Padraigp You are definitely not alone and I am just going to make it a part of self care to go sit on the ground everyday and look at nature. I really need to exercise so my goal is to get some walking in and I have figured out that I really must do this within 30 minutes of getting up because if I don't I just end up sitting all day long and distracting myself.. Good luck and remember to say this everyday.......Everyday in everyway I am getting better and better. Definitely spend time in imagination, feeling what you would feel as your ideal version of self! Sending u love!
@@sneaklp thank you .you too. I did wim hoff breathing in bed for a while and also the 54321 thing to get myself out for walks before my brain has time to start down its usual pattern but i didnt keep it up. If i see your comment in the morning again i will immediately do that and say a prayer that you are having a lovely walk with an amaxing rianbow or bird or something cool happening to make you smile! 😀
I move from Quebec to Parson,Bc in the wild I look to the mountains every day and walk in the beautiful forest…I feel at home the best move I could do I’m still facing crazy chronic illness but this keep me alive I’m building gardens caring for the land and it feel so right
For me, excerise was never much of an issue (even though I hated track and anything that was too monotone, like swimming... LOT of resistance there. I did dancing, horse back riding, biking as a mean of transport). But in 2020 I had CFS and was at a point where I could not walk more than a few min. Even a 5 min route would let my anxiety spike up because I felt so weak. I really had to be super slow with increasing it again, working with those anxious thoughts, visualising/imagining what strong legs would feel like, convincing myself that if I walked 15 min every day for a week, I could do it today as well... Now I'm SOO much better, physically I have (near) full trust in my abilities again. I've been going swimming 1-3 times a week for 8 months, not because I need to but because it makes me feel so good. Resistance thoughts like "why am I doing this? this is ridiculous, I should just stop" which I would have had before being sick, are gone. Yeah, sometimes, I don't wanna go. But then I imagine how good it would feel to be in the water and that makes me go. and also, I'm really kind with myself. When I have a (physically) bad day, I still go but I don't push myself to do a lot. I swim less/ slower. Trusting myself in this also makes it easier to push myself to swim a bit more on the days where it feels like the resistance is mental only.
oh and I've noticed recently that I don't have to do continual check-ins of how my energy levels are/ whether I can keep going anymore. My body will just automatically slow down at some point. Realising I don't have to do this from the mind anymore but can leave it up to my body to regulate speed etc itself (and trust its judgement :D) was a great milestone on my healing journey 🥳
though I have to say - what seth said about learning to feel your edges - that is sth that wasn't possible for me for the longest time. there was just too much tension/ anxiety/fatigue (that was not purely physical), to have an accurate sense of my edges. so for me, for a long time it was a lot about trial and error - seeing "oh I've don this much for 2 weeks without set backs, lets increase it a bit" and then stick with it, if it works. or going back down if it doesn't...
Leaving the Matrix sounds fab!! I've been looking into getting training that is trauma-informed.... not sure whether to go for my masters & / or a coaching certification. So expensive. Would love to know... Did you find a good program? If you've started, how's it going?
It was so awesome to hear from your husband Irene. I could relate to a lot of his feelings and frequently want to ditch into the wild somehow. You two are such inspiration.
I’m going to move April 1st. I will be leaving my 10 year old daughter and it breaks my heart regularly. I think escaping this community of hermitism is critical to my survival, but this midlife crisis, starting over with very little, and facing a lifetime of trauma and nervous system dis-regulation, is like a tidal wave of fear that doesnt end. The silver lining is that there is no way to deny the severe calling for self healing at a somatic level, which means acceptance of all the things I cannot but wish to fix before I am willing to let go. So hard. So scary.
Hi, Sophia with Team Lyon here. I'm very sorry to hear about this and thank you for sharing on here. You may find these free resources supporting in preparation of your new journey irenelyon.com/free-resources/
I have been 100% immersing myself in crafting for the past 2 months. My excuse was having a fracture that incapacitated me but it started to get a little strange. Then, one morning, I suddenly recognized that I had been sent to school too young, and never got enough crafting (and daydreaming) time as a child. This is the third time I have broken the same foot!! I was joking in ER admissions that what I probably needed was a shaman. The nurses laughed .. glad they still have a sense of humour. My husband says he is 1 accident away from becoming a Cordon Bleu chef. There is lots of material in every day life. I spend time every morning with my dreams.
Wow, that's so important subject! Yes, the system is sick, but it doesn't mean people who doesn't agree to that have to starve in the forest. I want my son to enjoy life fully, and through that I've discovered that I didn't live fully.
Wow, thank you beautiful souls, I totally needed this now. QUESTION: I wonder if other people are experiencing loneliness in their healing journey. For me, I had to let go of some close people in my life, and now I'm finding it difficult to find friends who are actually available. I have deep connections with some, but they're not very available to meet. I feel I need support. Any advice on this? Thank you Irene & Seth 😃💜 Also, could you make a video on what a healthy relationship (love or friendship) should look and feel like? Thank you guys, you're stars! 🌟😉✨🙏💜
Yes, Butterfly. When I took a good look at my life, and those that were in it, I realized that my friends really weren't friends at all, and that included family. I completely withdrew and have trust issues due to friends,family,people in general, and because I have never been one to follow societies rules, and have no interest in what the masses seem to be interested in, I have no one to relate to. Also when you have gone through many traumatic experiences, it makes relating to others even more difficult. Like you, I have made close connections, but online, poeple I can relate to,but no one lose by. Yes it sure would be nice to have friendship and support, but I can't see it happening for me, here and now. I am getting used to it now, but I do think people need human contact, but sadly its just not always possible. 😞
@@thehighpriestess978 hey thank you so much for your reply darling! Yes, I agree, it is a super challenge indeed. This feeling is super heavy right now. Where are you in the world? Just in case you're closeby😜🌍. If you want, we could connect? This is how we make it happen, I guess. Please let me know and no pressure at all 😀. Much love your way☺️🙏💜
Hi Butterfly Totem, Seth here. Yes, I'll pass that suggestion along to Irene. In regards to feeling lonely and having a hard time finding safe, available people. YES. That is just part of the deal right now for those who turn to face themselves and work on healing at this deep level. You are a trailblazer, paving the way for others to find this work, and it's often lonely out in front of the pack.
Somehow I put self on your email list. I clear my box daily. Your email drew my attention. So glad I hopped on video to watch. Subbed. Civilisation is the new wild. Contribution, connection & values are so important & we need quidance as to how to achieve the balance from folk like team Lyon. Now we heal. Thank you.
I really like both of Seth and Irene. You said: I see you - the evil of greedy of money, but I am empowered to do a better work to counter you. Somatic/nerve system regulation work really build us up in the foundation, and make us have sensitive and strength from within to work with people: self, family, and community. We are the influencers:) More people release from stuck survival state, less fear and greedy they will be, then less toxicity will be in society...
Such a helpful video. Thank you both. Seth's Q&A calls really help bring things together for me, because students are asking questions I don't think of. I really appreciate the description of your relationship as you moved through healing together. It does take a long time. Best part - "no more resistance". Wow! Can't wait for that day.
Thank you for the great video. I see similarities in my own journey. I have social anxiety and I recognise how I've a long way to go healing nervous system dysregulation. Living outside of the system has always apealed, but I've never known how to make it happen. At present I'm doing some part time work, training as a herbalist and taking care of my daughter, but notice how the unhealed trauma really holds me back in all areas. Life is full-on and finding time for self healing and the space to remember work with felt sense and somatic awareness is hard, but this is an excellent reminder to practice more integration
All of your hubbys firmer issues are key fir me too; former counter culture/hippie coping via isolation & avoidance that wasn’t the best coping but all I could think of with an unregulated system & mostly never safe parents. I’m loving his sharing perspectives & it’s so hopeful as he’s discovered so much despite having been so hindered. ❤😅😊
Hi! Seeing the two of you, with your proper light and doing this interview, gives me hope that I can be w a man, and a man can be w me.. i sabotage a lot.. and I see it… and I am alive w my challenges! Enjoy being two!
Appreciate the video so much. I needed a reminder to be more active than walking but bc I was forced into elite and abusive competitive figure skating as a child for over 13 years I have so much stress response related to this. Learning to listen to my body and go slow.
Life is difficult because life is a learning growing enterprise. In the ancient book of Genesis we learn this is a given. It is not new. It is the plan. Work is required to learn and grow. We are the only greedy person we need to concern ourselves with. If we want what they have and are not willing to pay the price they paid, then who is the greedy one? We are the only ones who are making it difficult for us to learn and to grow through our experience and to live in whatever perception of our lives we want to live in. The truth is that we set ourselves free. No one can do it for us. Thankfully, we can learn how to set ourselves free from others on the path. Thankfully, we have assistance here and from the divine. Still, we must do the work, or we remain deceived in the blame others for our unwillingness to burn away our part in our pain. I am just meeting you. Thank you for sharing your journey.😊😊😊
Wow, it felt so warming to see you as a couple. In this video you speak just about things I never really wanted to see and look at! I also appreciate your talking about difficult processes in your life, Seth, in a relaxed way and free from shame. I will try to do the same... Thank you so much!
In the past, I've been part of a spiritual bypassing community, and today, I wouldn't necessarily say I'm full-on counter-culture, but I do come from a minority culture (Wet'suwet'en) with a different worldview. It's nice to hear Seth talk about his journey, as I identify in many ways with it. Thank you for sharing, Seth. I do want to find a way to live with more ease and less struggle. Grateful to have found this content! My first session with a somatic practitioner is tmrw :)
Beautiful interview, so lovely to see the natural connection between you both. That’s my dream/vision/desire, to meet a man in the same area of work and interest as me. Beautiful couple, inside and out. Thank you both, Irene T Xx
after I had a near death experience I had no idea what was happening to me, but my nervous system was disregulated to the point of my body shutting down in main ways. About 2 years later, I went on a hike with a bunch of people that was extremely difficult and I had no idea it was going to be that hard. not just on my scale, it was one of the hardest hikes in the mountains. I was having so many body reactions during the way up that I had no idea what was going on. I thought I was going to die. I ended up forcing my body to go all the way up but it was way too much for my system to handle. After watching almost all of your content and doing nervous system work for the last year, I now know how to push myself and when enough is enough now. 😅
Thank you Irene & Seth. This topic is so relatable. As an HSP trying to work on my nervous system and come up with ways how to go through daily grind of spending time in office buildings, spaces & that awful vibe. I love my work, but hate physcally congregating in those huge, user unfriendly buildings & offices & engaging in topics and energy draining atmosphere.
Irene, I truly appreciate your videos and your work seems to resonate with me- I have been anemic for most of my 20s, I am 30 now and I've let myself go with sedentary habits due to not feeling comfortable in body. I was never the most active even before that tho I never struggled in the ways I do now. I don't trust the doctor I see in regards to my anemia- I'm avoiding my hemotologist and not getting my iron infusions done-she has gone as far as to berate me to my face before and I am unaware of anyway to see another doctor due to insurance issues. I still get the urge to exercise, I know I'm NOT willing to give up on myself but I just don't know who to trust in helping me with this and where to start I fear I'll collapse on the road going out for a jog, I'm raising a young son as a single mother so it almost seems safer for me to stay in my bubble to be there for him rather than push and potentially harm myself. It can start to feel like my mind and body are against me, and I am not able to afford a somatic therapist, nor personal trainer, nor a dietician, tho I would very much like the sense of having a team hold me accountable. A support system! I know there is a NEED to push myself, I just have so much fear and resistance-is there a somatic practice I can learn at home to help start building a trust in myself again? I am feeling as if yoga at home would be a good start, is that something you would agree with?
Hi Corie Rae, Seth here. Yes, Yoga can be on ok place to start, but not the best in my opinion as many of the poses can open up the system and release trauma - which is great if you have the capacity, knowledge and tools to work with it, and can be totally overwhelming if you don't. The best thing to do for at home work is this work! Our 12 week program starts very soon, and our shorter 3 week program is available any time. Check out our New Here? page for more guidance... irenelyon.com/new-here
I just having nettle tea. It's full of iron. If you can find it in the nature, collect it, tide it up in a bunch and livet to dry upside down. When is dry crumble it with your hands and keep it in air dry container. You can add it to any meal or pasta.I love the taste of nettle.
I am so happy that I got pointed to this video by my sweet friend. I have watched the first 15 minutes now and it fits so well with my proces. I love you both for your beautiful real-deal energy together. I am going to watch the rest of the video later. For now I am going to the supermarket with the energy 'exercise' that you Seth, described at your workingspace in the Italian restaurant.
Thank you. touched to tears by your words especially at the end of the video … feel very affirmed, that i’m not wrong! have had an undercurrent of doubting my sense of the world. thank you for all your videos and teachings, all you share.
I’ve been moving so much, as soon as something doesn’t work out, looking for the perfect environment… but it’s hard to regulate my nervous system when I’m always moving
Thank Irene and Seth! I do live in a town, but with my C-PTSD that was reactivated with my last workplace, I do avoid and escape society, people like some sort of Wolverine... I was severely molested with another little girl and an employee was molested at my last workplace, by a multirecidivist sex offender... Now I'm trying EMI for Eye Movement Integration from Steve Andreas and Danie Beaulieu have developped. EMDR was to sketchy for me 🤷♂️
it's such an inspiration and also a clear demonstration of the effectiveness of your work - lovely to see a whole healed loving supportive couple - gently riffing and exploring life and helping along the way. Kudos!
From the POV of chronic fatigue, the resistance is the body letting me know its boundaries because my mental capacity is always bigger than my physical capacity.
This line from Seth was so powerful that I felt compelled to write it down and speak it out loud. I felt some big releases as I did that. I feel like I just cleared a major block here. Thank you. Here’s the line:
> “I was able to shift from resisting all of it, to approaching it like, ‘okay, I’m going to do this, and I’m going to beat them at their own game. I’m going to become so powerful and so creative and so full of life energy, in my mission and my purpose, that it doesn’t matter what kind of toxicity is attached to the system. I am more powerful than that.”
Same! Getting out of victim mode
@@jcat7553 It's so important! Perhaps the hardest part of coming out of the woods - and back into the matrix - for me, has been the reality that elements within our society cannot continue as they are. There needs to be real, genuine, effective resistance to the attacks on our liberties and sovereignty. We got sleepy and forgot that there is a price that needs to be paid for freedom and human dignity, again and again. It is difficult for men to summon the courage that is demanded of us in these times, partly because we have lost our faith and need to get it back, and partly because there has been a polarity-reversal and courage is harder for men to access on an energetic level.
Yeah, no. One needs grounding With awareness of what’s not going to over stimulate the CNS . In a more vigorous yoga class I found myself triggered and tried to push beyond with 10’ grounding yet No, I quickly returned to hyper reactive while attempting humour what h only came out as threatening! Shit what a lesson in how fundamental a foundation is! Dr Aimie Apigian shares relevant but different tools & knowledge. ❤🌹🤩👏
Also, thank you for specifically mentioning seeing kids pee their pants because they weren’t allowed to use the restroom. That happened to me in the first grade. I asked over and over and over and made it clear I needed to go. She wouldn’t let me, for absolutely no good reason. So I peed in my seat. Not a little. I emptied my bladder. And through this awareness right now in this moment, I now have more understanding and love for the bladder issues that I’ve had for a long time. Most likely has a whole lot to do to with that experience. ❤
Happened to me as well in 1st grade, although it was the librarian who wouldn't allow me to go. I asked her several times, and even said I was going to pee in my pants, and she still refused to let me go. I remember just thinking, well, here goes, too bad for the carpet!!! My mother gave her a piece of her mind when she was called to bring in some fresh underwear and clothes for me to finish the school day. Unbelievable.
I'm so sorry for you, that as a little child you went through that. I wish more people realized the lifelong trauma they're creating for children.
Me too! It was kindergarten And the teacher made an example of in front of the class, making me mop it up myself. My mom came in while I was crying and mopping still in my wet clothes. She cussed the teacher out and threw the mop out the door!
I knew a classmate in the first grade who this.happened to. They laughed at her. :( I was very sad and upset and it made the mental list of why I didn't want my kids to go to public school. And I will be homeschooling them. XD
Omg, I'm so sad to hear this happened to you. These awful experiences are life changing (for the negative) to a little innocent child in a classroom. Power to your healing... 🙏
Thank you for recognizing that leaving a toxic work environment is not always a viable option.
Two mind blowing moments. I equate money with authority and authority with being hurt. Second, I played sports as a way to garner my dad's attention since he paid a lot of attention to both my brothers who played football, baseball and wrestled. I chose softball. And I was a catcher. Never saw that decision as "trauma response" until you mentioned playing goalie. I got to see what was going on on the field (control), I had to keep an eye on runners (hypervigilance), calm the pitcher (being responsible for someone else's emotions) - the burden was psychological not cardiovascular. Wow.
Hey Stacie b, reading this is so so phenomenal and insightful in a way I can't even tell u.. Thank u for sharing this.
@Irene Lyon just another thought here from reading this. I'd love a book of transcripts of your videos! I take sabbath as a break from electronics and for me it is the perfect day to dive into a book. Do you offer transcripts of your videos? Is there access to that? Just curious. Thanks so much!!!
@@mbreuer6779 grateful it was valuable 💜
Wow brilliant insights 💫👏🏻 Stacie thank you for sharing!
Hiya Irene, ive only discovered your incredible knowledge in 2024
So interested in Smart Body, Smart Mind. Will there be more opportunities to access this year pls? Thank you for everything xx
Hi Irene and Seth😊
I'm a student of yours Irene.
I think I'm beginning to move forward, and that my nervous system is releasing trauma. I've been practicing daily what I'm learning in 21 Day course and recycling through it for the second time. I began it in October.
Yesterday I listened to your interview Irene with the woman who found healing through your somatic practice and through regenerative agriculture. What really resonated with me was your thought Irene that healing also happens through other means along with somatic healing. I hope I have that right.
"Following my impulse" has lead me to more healing. And it is helping me to find direction that feels true and holistic amidst such deep apathy that I have been living in.
I had always been physically fit and practiced fitness for 30 years, but when I fell more and more into trauma or when trauma began to control my life, I stopped exercising. Even though I was working on ways that I thought would heal my life. Your video here confirms what my impulse is telling me. To just begin moving in any way, but without the goal of losing weight, looking good, or gaining muscle. Just move to heal, and because I need to heal.
Hello, Sophia with Team Lyon here. Thank you for sharing your feedback on here. Wishing you a smooth onward healing journey.
i can relate, i feel the same about movement.
Artist/ anarchist here....broke...and so much trauma stored in my body as a romantic that hasn't ever really had a true love that loves me back remotely half way. No kids/51/ no retirement. ..yikes. No amount of healthy eating or detoxing will work til I get myself regulated emotionally. Thanks you two!
Ditto...aged 57. Hi. 👋🏿
Same and Im 46 and have managed to do all the conventional things that humans do in the 3D. I have though helped others rise up and live their purpose as I always saw that as my sole purpose in life. Now having been in the ‘woods’ for the last 5 years doing the inner work I can’t help but feel abit left behind in all aspects ‘career, kids, family, home’ the lot. Going back into the matrix is daunting seeing what is happening out there in the world I have to find my place again - my new place in the world
I'm having the same challenges. Even more complicated.
wliwni (thank you) I really connect with Seth, I'm also way off grid. I also see the spiritual bypass many are in, using spirituality to retreat from the true healing process. I am from a indigenous culture, not participating with the colonizing dominate culture, but also not engaging with my culture. Your work is so helpful. wliwni wawasalmegwadich ( thank you, blessings )
Thank you for talking about how we may not know when to stop pushing and that’s when the injury happens. As a personal trainer I didn’t know my limits and hurt myself a lot.
I’d also add. Since I’ve become a trauma-informed personal trainer and I’m finding people tend to fluctuate between the 2 extremes. For that reason they need to learn safety in their bodies before stretching their window of tolerance (as you called it ‘edge’) otherwise disconnection or even dissociation can happen.
I hear you. I’m an ex PT and I’ve had to get back in tune with the overwork I put my body through during my time as a PT and life in general - always considered myself as ‘strong 💪🏽’. Chronic fatigue hit me with inflammation to boot. It’s been a tough journey to reconnect with myself integrating my inner and outer as to not be separate. I feel so much more now after seeking the support of a neuro somatic integration therapist. It’s been a game changer for me. I spent 5 years going inward and doing the work but this last CNS integrative work has really highlighted what I was bypassing or ignoring for so long because of a life of trauma.
“Toxic but doesn’t mean you can’t have success within it”. Exactly!
Seth is a such a great example of positive masculinity! We need more men like him educating other men (and women). Thanks for this very insightful video ❤
I cant wait to be another man like Seth
Same thoughts/feels! I try to think of Seth when I visualize what is desirable and possible for my two eldest children, two young boys (who are still stuck with me and their father in a dysregulated toxic family system) I feel a little hopeful, then. The eldest was also a preemie (who definitely wanted to come out of my stressfilled womb at the time), like Seth.
Agreed!!!
Agree, he has the gaze of love and a great focused attention.
Strong but gentle. The two together are just lovely 🥰
Sounds like he was a real handful before he got to this place so
Hey guys, happy to correct you that people living in counter-culture ways do watch your videos ;) after having spent time in different communities, having gone to rainbow gatherings and living in caves and judged money and society as the antichrist, i absolutely agree that there is not much trauma-awareness in these movements. it's mainly 'love and light' that turns a blind eye to the shadow and deep seated woundedness. Conflict resolution skills? Well, there are the occasional heart-sharing circles but mostly people don't see the medicine in this. Luckily, through wanting to establish my own practice and realising that I actually do like money, and having enough of it, I started moving away from this lifestyle. So I can relate to your story, Seth and was glad and surprised to hear about your past. Because, I also didn't think there are any Hippies doing nervous system practices ;) Looking forward to deepen my practice and also curious where it will lead me. Blessings to both of you.
It's really a pity I didn't come across this work back when I was a fresh massage therapy graduate in Vancouver in 2000. I ended up sabotaging my career and the relationship of my dreams due to trauma I wasn't getting to the bottom of. I knew all sorts of healing modalities and spiritual stuff, was pretty embodied in a lot of ways, but I had severe undiagnosed ADHD and tendency to fall into severe depression.
Ooh beautiful that you give each other time ❤. God bless you 😊.
I am where Seth was: isolated, resistance to exercise, making money and want to disappear from society. I know i suffer from cPTSD following a very traumatic situationship.
Same. There’s part of me that wanted to run away and live in the woods for a long long time, but I have been living in a city for the past few years and I am really starting to feel how I can carve out a niche for myself and balance the toxicity of masculinity and mainstream culture vs solitude and nature
What a great conversation! Just wanted to step in to share my perspective, my partner and I have been living off grid for over 10 years, not in an intentional community. We are very much part of our community and our purpose is not to disconnect from society, but rather to be the change we wish to see in this world. We work very hard sustaining our off grid life and are much more physicly active than we were when we were on grid. Love to you reading this.
Thanks, it's very grounded and realistic. My nervous system got completely disregulated with the recent wars and elections. I am trying to connect to myself and get stronger
Irene and Seth; you can’t know, of course just how synchronous your posting of this video is for me right now, but I’m so grateful for your doing so! Thank you. This video sort of capstones a series of experiences of the last 48 hrs, answers some deep questions, and dovetails incredibly with some profound insights gained during my somatic therapy session yesterday. This seems like a response from the Universe. Which, in itself, is a hopeful thing!
Seth, thank you for sharing these details of your healing journey with work, earning, and The Capitalist System. I am so grateful for the realness of what you shared, as well as the hope.
I love when the two of you post a discussion. Your joint video about cold-plunging in paradise was the one that introduced me to the existence of this work nearly a year ago. It spoke directly to my lived experience and deep questions. Seth’s perspective has some striking similarities to my own, and so often addresses specific questions I have, and I listen to Irene literally every day and gain some new insight every time. Just listening to her speak is healing and regulating for my system.
Thanks, you two! Gotta get off to work, now.
I really admire you both, thank you for being so authentic ❤
Thanks 🙏🏻 ❤️
This video was so great for me at this point. I’m doing the 21 day NS tune up. I’m beginning to realize how much stored up survival stress I have in my body. I’m also beginning to see that when I’m in a good place I tend to believe that all is well and that I will never go back to a dysregulated state and that the trauma responses will magically have evaporated for good. Just like I think nothing will ever change when I’m in acute survival stress activation. I guess that it’s a sign or effect of early/developmental trauma to swing between these extremes. I also realize that I might have a “flawed” or unrealistic picture or expectation of what healing will look like - or maybe I have absolutely no idea how it works - which makes me blind to the progress I actually make. I can’t wait to start SBSM in September!
You two! I was JUST having these stuck survival energy thoughts - in my feverish overloaded single mother of three trying to find a good enough job whilst divorcing a covert narc/traumatised person not in recovery and giving up my unschooling-life dream - and thought about Seth's q&a responses that I still remember ('It's your dysregulated nervous system creating these thoughts') I started 21 day course in september 2020 and SBSM in march 2021, it helped me to come out of functional freeze and realize I've never lived in a safe home/family, yet. I feel more 'comfortable' with feeling my sensations emotions (not yet with expressing them). More 'normal' in all that I experience as a human being. Toxic shame has come up (and often left) in big ways. I feel such anger before I even listen to this interview. 'Seth and Irene both have never had 3 young children to care for in this toxic society, whilst fighting off a dysfunctional co-parent who dysregulates everything you try to co-regulate. All the while being aware and informed and thus KNOWING the harm this does to your own and the children's system (a lot can be reversed later, but STILL) and feeling the frustrated hopelesness about still having to wait to heal in a safe environment. They have NO idea! Easy for them to say: heal your resistance!' I feel shame expressing this and I'm grateful that I understand how that works now, because of you two :)
I feel you. I'm still extremely traumatized from leaving my narc ex in 1994. I'm also a TI, as happens to us nonconformists. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
@@edie4321 thank you for the support and prayers! They do help, I'm sure of it. A good - maybe even ideal - job is on the horizon, maybe, finally. My system is screaming (constant headaches, muscle aches, insomnia, ... have started at last) because I am still stuck 'at home' for the moment. What does 'TI' mean? :)
what a beautiful and thoughtful response. i had the same and we carry the load untill we turn and face it. Its a long slow hard road - well done soldier.
I was that single mum of three with dead beat alcoholic hubby after ten years of hoping! Looking back now at 70 I know I could of given myself a break with making easier meals for less preparation time & use that time to be with, listen to & play with my kids. I was stuck in a position of What we ate was key with out realizing my busyness role modeling was not feeding their hearts 1st. Work, unaddressed trauma, abusive & neglectful mom & all the fears ran my mind. I’d learned EFT but had no appreciation to prioritize it or calm my energy back then. I was so afraid I thought about how I could make money at night while the kids slept! Prostitution was all I could think of & thank goodness I wasn’t able to go there. The dishes, housekeeping & meals are secondary to making our kids know they are safe, heard & well loved! ❤❤❤
@@ledacedar6253i could have written this except I'm living it right now. Also thought about that line of work in my desperation! Also have a huge focus on nutrition and feeding the kids right but I am neglecting to feed their hearts as much as I could. Thank you for this reminder! ❤😢
I struggle to hold a job because of my trauma. I hope to heal that.
try yogic practices
You are not alone. I not only hold trauma in my body, but also have certain viruses that my body cannot shift. 😢
Money has been made ugly. Maybe the goal was to make us rebellious of the idea of wealth, for more division, addiction and hatreds. To be honest the taxes are not fair. May God heal the money, the health, the economy, politics, security systems, education system. Our inside and outside beings in the name of Jesus 🙏. It's not our fault, we don't need to feel guilty or make others feel like outsiders. It's enough. We need to be aware of it and be patient. May God help us to move when he needs us to move, and take time to heal when it's time to heal. Thank you for sharing.
I can so relate to Seth’s experience. I resist work and making money when deep inside I want to make a difference in the world . I sometimes don’t understand why I feel so stuck and what’s the resistance about ? I think I am equating working with unfairness and being placed in a position of being abused . Being abused by the people that have authority over me, which has been my childhood experience, as well as I have recreated that with bosses. Bottom line, I want to feel useful. I want to work . I want to be part of society. I want to get unstuck! Hiding is painful. Not living is painful.
I could have written that, except I wasnt aware I was painfully hiding, but yeah, that's the toxic shame bit that is permanently being re-lived through all my triggers and the thought of having to apply for disability benefits feels like a nightmare, just as is thinking about job prospects that would imply me hiding my disabilties, pretending to be fine as I used to. It feels like such a dilemma.
One of my challenges I had at my workplaces was that I regularly had flashbacks. Those resulted in fights, freaking out, and meltdowns. I ran away or I just walked away and never went back, etc. I made a fool out of myself. I also had compulsions. I used to have lots of somatic issues, and they still around sometimes, and are messengers.
Thanks to you both for this amazing video. Seth is such an inspiration for me. I am 51 and just coming off of over 20 years of rootless living outside the system and society. alot of it in the forests of Oregon and CA and Maui. Tree houses,caves,squat shacks and cabins,and yurts,and work trade,and communities. I could go on. But very much used to be an anti capitilist anarchist and filled with so much Anger. Lots of substance abuse. Just in the last 1 1/2 years i have started to just STOP. Stop running,and numbing,and resisting. Lots of softening,allowing,and surender. Im so glad I have found your offerings at this juncture. Life really is a miracle. I feel like I may finally be getting to know myself and perhaps my Dharma will be revealed at some point here.🙂💓🙏
Hey @banjolution, Seth here. I was just online and happened to see your comment come in. Definitely lots of parallels in our story! And from your handle, maybe even more - when I took off into the counterculture it was with my backpack and my banjo :)
Way to go learning to STOP with the old patterns, That's step one, and often the hardest part. Now it may be useful to get into doing this work! It sure was crucial for me :) Wishing you all the best on your healing journey.
Thank you very much ❤
Sweet and humbling interview
This video is a must watch for everybody going into spiritual bypassing, thank you Irene so much
I appreciate you addressed it.Much needed (Spiritual bypassing I mean. )
Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤️
Thank you Irene and Seth. Irene I've been filling you since April and you've led me a profound path of recovery. Thank you so much for doing what you do. ❤
Thank you… this talk was so vulnerable and beautiful I love hearing your story it’s like a fairy tale! Just baked an apple cake and lentil soup in London on a stormy night listening to this… almost about to buy the woods to escape , I think you may have just changed my life and potentially saved me from isolation! Thank you!
Hello, Sophia from Team Lyon here. Happy to hear you benefited from this talk and thank you very much for sharing.
Great talk, pleasant energy between the two of you.
Holy i relate with this guy. i have cptsd and hate society too
As a crunchy granola hippie at heart, this was soooo needed!
I did move countries... Left the USA for Portugal to be within a different culture and slower pace of life. 🙌🏻
Thank you for talking about how to work in a work place that might not be 100% aligned with our values/ purpose! I've tried what you have said and even though I'm now on sick leave (needed this for some deeper healing processes), I'm planning to go back part time doing what you suggested. I am lucky enough to have flexible and very supportive colleagues...
Really, really connecting with this with my workplace in mind. I am still healing from the past verbal abuse and mistreatment. Afraid to leave after hubby was in and out of work...so needed to stay to have food on the table and to keep the lights on. From all of the pushing, now my health issues have peaked with burnout and an autoimmune process 😢 Last year, my situation has shifted to a somewhat better place within the same company....been there at the company as a whole for a total for almost 25 years. However, there are still some very overwhelming things to me there (esp still having the past bullying trauma in my body). Just started watching your videos, working through the resistance freebie and just joined in on the 21 days. Working on my awareness and grounding.... starting to feel slight shifts. So glad I found your take on all of this ❤ Looking forward to joining SBSM in the next round!
i gained so many nuggets from this
thank you ♥️
Love you guys❤! I’m SBSM alumni going into 4th round this year!🙏💃🏻
Thank you for helping change my life ❤️💃🏻
This work you are doing is so amazing. I think the reason a lot of therapy doesn't work is because it doesn't get to the deep roots of the problems like this does. Unless the origin of why you are doing this to yourself is uncovered and healed, it will just keep resurfacing in different ways. I feel like someone actually truly understands here. Thank you for making these videos and helping us!!
Thanks for talking about this stuff. Just starting this one but I have a good feeling about this video.
So many people are not aware they have had “trauma” and need healing. Others don’t want to do anything about it even when they do recognize they are broken and need help. While in that place others in their lives are hurt/damaged by their unwillingness to help themselves. So sad to see talented amazing people unable to cope in society, reach their potential and be in healthy relationships.😢
Great conversation! Thanks for sharing your life experience. I've learned so much from both of you & feel truly grateful.
Nervous system have been disregulated for many years. I went from being in an industry that I loved, book trade to now working a tedious, lower paying job with very little satisfaction and mental challenge or growth. At the age of 56 I would like to start manifesting my purpose in life , to feel alive and fulfilled. I also have not had a relationship as a lesbian for nine years.
wow. As someone with lots of trauma and ADHD who has been unemployed for so long this was incredibly healing for me. I really want to try somatic work now and hopefully better what i can from my shattered brain and body
Thankyou guys, so helpful! Be aware of the evil but more powerful than it. Embodiment is a super power I'm discovering. Thankyou both so much for talking about this!
I loved this so much, been telling myself that I am going to start moving my body because I have been sitting consuming videos for years now, You know when you first start awakening and searching for truth it becomes the burning desire and with knowledge comes freedom, Now I feel that I have what I need spiritually I know I need to take better care of the physical body. Thanks for the talk, really going to work on this resisting moving my body!
Totally. I just went into the garden and kinda looked around for a while. I barelt ever do that these days and through all of covid i did crap all. I want to make it nice for myself and the kids ..i want to go back in time and make it ncier for the kids too but i cant do that i was so messed up and ptsd that i just survived. And i feel bad that we had no nice life. We had peace though and thats what i needed. But we didnt have thw ability to go anywhere because i didnt make friend with peopl with cars. Ah god thats beside the point. One tends to keep picking at threads. What i wanted to say is outside in the garden just wsndering was such a nice experince in and of itself. Maybe tomorrow i will go and just sit there and feel myself lie on the grass and look at the sky. Its getting dark and cold here now. But damn. Where have i been for three years? Its been insane. Its kinda good to know that others have been in the same paralysed situation even though it sucks its at least nice. To know we are a lot of us in the same boat. Stiff and tired and forgotten how to even live.
@@Padraigp You are definitely not alone and I am just going to make it a part of self care to go sit on the ground everyday and look at nature. I really need to exercise so my goal is to get some walking in and I have figured out that I really must do this within 30 minutes of getting up because if I don't I just end up sitting all day long and distracting myself.. Good luck and remember to say this everyday.......Everyday in everyway I am getting better and better. Definitely spend time in imagination, feeling what you would feel as your ideal version of self! Sending u love!
@@sneaklp thank you
.you too. I did wim hoff breathing in bed for a while and also the 54321 thing to get myself out for walks before my brain has time to start down its usual pattern but i didnt keep it up. If i see your comment in the morning again i will immediately do that and say a prayer that you are having a lovely walk with an amaxing rianbow or bird or something cool happening to make you smile! 😀
I move from Quebec to Parson,Bc in the wild I look to the mountains every day and walk in the beautiful forest…I feel at home the best move I could do I’m still facing crazy chronic illness but this keep me alive I’m building gardens caring for the land and it feel so right
For me, excerise was never much of an issue (even though I hated track and anything that was too monotone, like swimming... LOT of resistance there. I did dancing, horse back riding, biking as a mean of transport).
But in 2020 I had CFS and was at a point where I could not walk more than a few min. Even a 5 min route would let my anxiety spike up because I felt so weak. I really had to be super slow with increasing it again, working with those anxious thoughts, visualising/imagining what strong legs would feel like, convincing myself that if I walked 15 min every day for a week, I could do it today as well...
Now I'm SOO much better, physically I have (near) full trust in my abilities again. I've been going swimming 1-3 times a week for 8 months, not because I need to but because it makes me feel so good. Resistance thoughts like "why am I doing this? this is ridiculous, I should just stop" which I would have had before being sick, are gone. Yeah, sometimes, I don't wanna go. But then I imagine how good it would feel to be in the water and that makes me go. and also, I'm really kind with myself. When I have a (physically) bad day, I still go but I don't push myself to do a lot. I swim less/ slower. Trusting myself in this also makes it easier to push myself to swim a bit more on the days where it feels like the resistance is mental only.
oh and I've noticed recently that I don't have to do continual check-ins of how my energy levels are/ whether I can keep going anymore. My body will just automatically slow down at some point. Realising I don't have to do this from the mind anymore but can leave it up to my body to regulate speed etc itself (and trust its judgement :D) was a great milestone on my healing journey 🥳
though I have to say - what seth said about learning to feel your edges - that is sth that wasn't possible for me for the longest time. there was just too much tension/ anxiety/fatigue (that was not purely physical), to have an accurate sense of my edges. so for me, for a long time it was a lot about trial and error - seeing "oh I've don this much for 2 weeks without set backs, lets increase it a bit" and then stick with it, if it works. or going back down if it doesn't...
This was Divinely timed ! Leaving the “matrix” and wanting to be a trauma informed coach doesn’t mean I can’t work with in the system .
Leaving the Matrix sounds fab!!
I've been looking into getting training that is trauma-informed.... not sure whether to go for my masters & / or a coaching certification. So expensive.
Would love to know... Did you find a good program? If you've started, how's it going?
It was so awesome to hear from your husband Irene. I could relate to a lot of his feelings and frequently want to ditch into the wild somehow.
You two are such inspiration.
This is fantastic and so relatable x
I’m going to move April 1st. I will be leaving my 10 year old daughter and it breaks my heart regularly. I think escaping this community of hermitism is critical to my survival, but this midlife crisis, starting over with very little, and facing a lifetime of trauma and nervous system dis-regulation, is like a tidal wave of fear that doesnt end. The silver lining is that there is no way to deny the severe calling for self healing at a somatic level, which means acceptance of all the things I cannot but wish to fix before I am willing to let go. So hard. So scary.
Hi, Sophia with Team Lyon here. I'm very sorry to hear about this and thank you for sharing on here. You may find these free resources supporting in preparation of your new journey irenelyon.com/free-resources/
Turn to Jesus, ask for forgiveness and mercy ...and carry on in Peace
I have been 100% immersing myself in crafting for the past 2 months. My excuse was having a fracture that incapacitated me but it started to get a little strange. Then, one morning, I suddenly recognized that I had been sent to school too young, and never got enough crafting (and daydreaming) time as a child. This is the third time I have broken the same foot!! I was joking in ER admissions that what I probably needed was a shaman. The nurses laughed .. glad they still have a sense of humour. My husband says he is 1 accident away from becoming a Cordon Bleu chef. There is lots of material in every day life. I spend time every morning with my dreams.
Wow, that's so important subject! Yes, the system is sick, but it doesn't mean people who doesn't agree to that have to starve in the forest. I want my son to enjoy life fully, and through that I've discovered that I didn't live fully.
This was amazing. Thank you. I appreciate you both. ❤
Wow, thank you beautiful souls, I totally needed this now.
QUESTION: I wonder if other people are experiencing loneliness in their healing journey. For me, I had to let go of some close people in my life, and now I'm finding it difficult to find friends who are actually available. I have deep connections with some, but they're not very available to meet. I feel I need support. Any advice on this? Thank you Irene & Seth 😃💜
Also, could you make a video on what a healthy relationship (love or friendship) should look and feel like? Thank you guys, you're stars! 🌟😉✨🙏💜
Yes, Butterfly. When I took a good look at my life, and those that were in it, I realized that my friends really weren't friends at all, and that included family. I completely withdrew and have trust issues due to friends,family,people in general, and because I have never been one to follow societies rules, and have no interest in what the masses seem to be interested in, I have no one to relate to. Also when you have gone through many traumatic experiences, it makes relating to others even more difficult. Like you, I have made close connections, but online, poeple I can relate to,but no one lose by. Yes it sure would be nice to have friendship and support, but I can't see it happening for me, here and now. I am getting used to it now, but I do think people need human contact, but sadly its just not always possible. 😞
@@thehighpriestess978 hey thank you so much for your reply darling! Yes, I agree, it is a super challenge indeed. This feeling is super heavy right now.
Where are you in the world? Just in case you're closeby😜🌍. If you want, we could connect? This is how we make it happen, I guess. Please let me know and no pressure at all 😀. Much love your way☺️🙏💜
@@butterflytotem Are you in the US? I am on the other side of the pond. 😊
@@thehighpriestess978 England 😃
Hi Butterfly Totem, Seth here. Yes, I'll pass that suggestion along to Irene. In regards to feeling lonely and having a hard time finding safe, available people. YES. That is just part of the deal right now for those who turn to face themselves and work on healing at this deep level. You are a trailblazer, paving the way for others to find this work, and it's often lonely out in front of the pack.
Somehow I put self on your email list. I clear my box daily. Your email drew my attention. So glad I hopped on video to watch. Subbed.
Civilisation is the new wild. Contribution, connection & values are so important & we need quidance as to how to achieve the balance from folk like team Lyon. Now we heal. Thank you.
finally! i found the people who understand!
Thank you, Irene and Seth! This is so very necessary to discuss. 🙏🏽💜🙏🏽
💜to both of you!
I really like both of Seth and Irene. You said: I see you - the evil of greedy of money, but I am empowered to do a better work to counter you.
Somatic/nerve system regulation work really build us up in the foundation, and make us have sensitive and strength from within to work with people: self, family, and community.
We are the influencers:)
More people release from stuck survival state, less fear and greedy they will be, then less toxicity will be in society...
Such a helpful video. Thank you both. Seth's Q&A calls really help bring things together for me, because students are asking questions I don't think of. I really appreciate the description of your relationship as you moved through healing together. It does take a long time. Best part - "no more resistance". Wow! Can't wait for that day.
I'm so glad I found you 😊 I'm trying to navigate through burnout after a relentless role for 14 years 😳
Thank you
Thank you for the great video. I see similarities in my own journey. I have social anxiety and I recognise how I've a long way to go healing nervous system dysregulation. Living outside of the system has always apealed, but I've never known how to make it happen. At present I'm doing some part time work, training as a herbalist and taking care of my daughter, but notice how the unhealed trauma really holds me back in all areas. Life is full-on and finding time for self healing and the space to remember work with felt sense and somatic awareness is hard, but this is an excellent reminder to practice more integration
I moved 2 hours from my home and I didn't know anyone. I really don't regret it! I smile and people smile back!! wow! etc.
Everything is an opportunity for our growth and expansion.
Once again I do highly appreciate the balanced view and knowledge you provide. Thank you guys, very important work.
Yes 💚,
I am dealing with my resistenace of the social connections. I am alright in a company, but i love my time alone.
All of your hubbys firmer issues are key fir me too; former counter culture/hippie coping via isolation & avoidance that wasn’t the best coping but all I could think of with an unregulated system & mostly never safe parents.
I’m loving his sharing perspectives & it’s so hopeful as he’s discovered so much despite having been so hindered. ❤😅😊
This hits all the notes for me and how I feel... thank you both.
Hi! Seeing the two of you, with your proper light and doing this interview, gives me hope that I can be w a man, and a man can be w me.. i sabotage a lot.. and I see it… and I am alive w my challenges! Enjoy being two!
Appreciate the video so much. I needed a reminder to be more active than walking but bc I was forced into elite and abusive competitive figure skating as a child for over 13 years I have so much stress response related to this. Learning to listen to my body and go slow.
Life is difficult because life is a learning growing enterprise.
In the ancient book of Genesis we learn this is a given. It is not new. It is the plan.
Work is required to learn and grow.
We are the only greedy person we need to concern ourselves with.
If we want what they have and are not willing to pay the price they paid, then who is the greedy one?
We are the only ones who are making it difficult for us to learn and to grow through our experience and to live in whatever perception of our lives we want to live in.
The truth is that we set ourselves free. No one can do it for us.
Thankfully, we can learn how to set ourselves free from others on the path.
Thankfully, we have assistance here and from the divine.
Still, we must do the work, or we remain deceived in the blame others for our unwillingness to burn away our part in our pain.
I am just meeting you. Thank you for sharing your journey.😊😊😊
Wow, it felt so warming to see you as a couple. In this video you speak just about things I never really wanted to see and look at! I also appreciate your talking about difficult processes in your life, Seth, in a relaxed way and free from shame. I will try to do the same... Thank you so much!
In the past, I've been part of a spiritual bypassing community, and today, I wouldn't necessarily say I'm full-on counter-culture, but I do come from a minority culture (Wet'suwet'en) with a different worldview. It's nice to hear Seth talk about his journey, as I identify in many ways with it. Thank you for sharing, Seth. I do want to find a way to live with more ease and less struggle. Grateful to have found this content! My first session with a somatic practitioner is tmrw :)
Wow, so thankful for this!!!!
Such a great piece. Thanks Seth.
The resistance goes away!!!! This is really good news. I'm about to start round two for me at the end of the month. I'm excited. ❤️
Beautiful interview, so lovely to see the natural connection between you both. That’s my dream/vision/desire, to meet a man in the same area of work and interest as me.
Beautiful couple, inside and out. Thank you both, Irene T Xx
This is exactly what I've needed reflected back to me. You two are so vital. Thank you.
Irene and Seth, thank you both so much. This podcast gave me a lot of food for thought.
after I had a near death experience I had no idea what was happening to me, but my nervous system was disregulated to the point of my body shutting down in main ways. About 2 years later, I went on a hike with a bunch of people that was extremely difficult and I had no idea it was going to be that hard. not just on my scale, it was one of the hardest hikes in the mountains. I was having so many body reactions during the way up that I had no idea what was going on. I thought I was going to die. I ended up forcing my body to go all the way up but it was way too much for my system to handle. After watching almost all of your content and doing nervous system work for the last year, I now know how to push myself and when enough is enough now. 😅
Thank you so much for all of the video and the caution made for people who are chronically fatigued in relation to exercise. Thank you!
Excellent discussion!!! Opened my eyes to a lot of new information. Thank you so much for this information.
Thank you Irene & Seth. This topic is so relatable. As an HSP trying to work on my nervous system and come up with ways how to go through daily grind of spending time in office buildings, spaces & that awful vibe. I love my work, but hate physcally congregating in those huge, user unfriendly buildings & offices & engaging in topics and energy draining atmosphere.
This episode was fantastic and super helpful! Seth mentioned quite a few things that I really related to. Thanks so much! 🙏🏼🌟💚
You guys are great! Thanks for making this info available.
Irene,
I truly appreciate your videos and your work seems to resonate with me-
I have been anemic for most of my 20s, I am 30 now and I've let myself go with sedentary habits due to not feeling comfortable in body.
I was never the most active even before that tho I never struggled in the ways I do now.
I don't trust the doctor I see in regards to my anemia- I'm avoiding my hemotologist and not getting my iron infusions done-she has gone as far as to berate me to my face before and I am unaware of anyway to see another doctor due to insurance issues.
I still get the urge to exercise, I know I'm NOT willing to give up on myself but I just don't know who to trust in helping me with this and where to start
I fear I'll collapse on the road going out for a jog, I'm raising a young son as a single mother so it almost seems safer for me to stay in my bubble to be there for him rather than push and potentially harm myself.
It can start to feel like my mind and body are against me, and I am not able to afford a somatic therapist, nor personal trainer, nor a dietician, tho I would very much like the sense of having a team hold me accountable. A support system!
I know there is a NEED to push myself, I just have so much fear and resistance-is there a somatic practice I can learn at home to help start building a trust in myself again?
I am feeling as if yoga at home would be a good start, is that something you would agree with?
Hi Corie Rae, Seth here. Yes, Yoga can be on ok place to start, but not the best in my opinion as many of the poses can open up the system and release trauma - which is great if you have the capacity, knowledge and tools to work with it, and can be totally overwhelming if you don't.
The best thing to do for at home work is this work! Our 12 week program starts very soon, and our shorter 3 week program is available any time. Check out our New Here? page for more guidance... irenelyon.com/new-here
I just having nettle tea. It's full of iron.
If you can find it in the nature, collect it, tide it up in a bunch and livet to dry upside down. When is dry crumble it with your hands and keep it in air dry container. You can add it to any meal or pasta.I love the taste of nettle.
wow. thank you for this video and your channel. it came in a moment I very much needed and have so many thoughts is there something very wrong with me
This was a great conversation
Thank you
come to think of it… Physical therapy can over do. Somatherapy creates the awareness and comfort in listening to our bodies. great stuff!
I am so happy that I got pointed to this video by my sweet friend.
I have watched the first 15 minutes now and it fits so well with my proces.
I love you both for your beautiful real-deal energy together. I am going to watch the rest of the video later.
For now I am going to the supermarket with the energy 'exercise' that you Seth, described at your workingspace in the Italian restaurant.
Thank you. touched to tears by your words especially at the end of the video … feel very affirmed, that i’m not wrong! have had an undercurrent of doubting my sense of the world. thank you for all your videos and teachings, all you share.
I’ve been moving so much, as soon as something doesn’t work out, looking for the perfect environment… but it’s hard to regulate my nervous system when I’m always moving
Thank Irene and Seth!
I do live in a town, but with my C-PTSD that was reactivated with my last workplace, I do avoid and escape society, people like some sort of Wolverine...
I was severely molested with another little girl and an employee was molested at my last workplace, by a multirecidivist sex offender...
Now I'm trying EMI for Eye Movement Integration from Steve Andreas and Danie Beaulieu have developped.
EMDR was to sketchy for me 🤷♂️
it's such an inspiration and also a clear demonstration of the effectiveness of your work - lovely to see a whole healed loving supportive couple - gently riffing and exploring life and helping along the way. Kudos!
Thanks for the great discussion Irene and Seth!