Gotcha Day 2001-China Trip Helena comes home (edited)

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  • Опубліковано 13 лют 2017
  • Helena was placed into our arms on Valentines Day in China, 2001.
    I still am amazed at what a wonderful child she was and is.
    I apologize for the horrible sound.

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  • @mondayswithmayra
    @mondayswithmayra 2 роки тому +18

    For those who don’t have time to read all the comments and respective replies, the gorgeous “baby” is now 21. She studied art and is now in college. She admits she’s still a daddy’s girl. I think her mommy lets her think that because mom was so wonderful and loving. 😕

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 2 роки тому +12

      Haha I appreciate this but I am not currently in college. I’ll be 22 next month and I’m pursuing a modeling career! Im also currently deployed in Japan as a member of the United States Air Force Reserves.

  • @barbaragardner8626
    @barbaragardner8626 4 місяці тому +2

    This is a wonderful video and so well done. One of the best ones I’ve seen. She’s beautiful and I think she got a beautiful mom and dad and family. You did a great job because you told where you were at and the day and date and that made the video so special. Go bless you all and I’m so glad you made this video for everyone to see. Thank you.

  • @CeciliaLCalub
    @CeciliaLCalub 5 років тому +15

    Soo sad that it's not their biological parents who hug, embrace, feed and bond with these adorable babies..soo glad that there are others from the west who adopt them and truly love them as their children. These babies are God's children who deserve all the love and care of adults.

  • @catrionamartin-hp9hz
    @catrionamartin-hp9hz 9 місяців тому +4

    You people need to quiet throw comments out there else she got all the Love she needd It doesnt matter how old u are to adopt Heck me my husband are up age we to might consired adopt theres lot children out there that need a good home family if u can give it to them why not

  • @carolberwindscheffler2708
    @carolberwindscheffler2708 3 роки тому +9

    Bless these two so kind and loving. She will always love you.

  • @annamariabeneventi3070
    @annamariabeneventi3070 5 років тому +7

    Che tenerezza,come non amare un tenero fagottino così! Si sa qualche notte in bianco è nella norma,ma i piccoli piangono quando vogliono loro e non quando vorrebbero gli altri!😘😘😘😘😘

  • @loriking8806
    @loriking8806 Місяць тому

    God bless you for giving such a beautiful child a loving home.

  • @dianaleda2694
    @dianaleda2694 3 роки тому +17

    This is the first time I have ever wanted to comment on one of these sweet adoption videos I love, love, love the gentle way that mama seems to instinctively show love to her baby as a way to handle her, letting her see she is precious, And papa, he was the best papa ever. I loved the running commentary, some insightful, some caring and some that made me smile so big. Helena is right where she is supposed to be. and I could listen to you talk forever.

  • @mattirita-luopa8384
    @mattirita-luopa8384 5 років тому +10

    Cute baby she is happy because she is healthy you are loving couple God bless your family

  • @madamjaynie87
    @madamjaynie87 3 роки тому +7

    That is the most beautiful baby ever....

  • @madamjaynie87
    @madamjaynie87 3 роки тому +5

    This is the most darling video... I really enjoyed it!!!!

  • @ashcoco1000
    @ashcoco1000 7 років тому +18

    What a darling little girl who I'm sure has grown up to be a beautiful young lady, well done Mum & Dad. Much love from New Zealand😊

  • @Ktlyndavis
    @Ktlyndavis 3 роки тому +14

    This video brought tears to my eyes! I was adopted from the same province 2 years prior and I am a friend of Helena's. I wish my parents had footage like this

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 3 роки тому +4

      🥺💘love youuuu

    • @kinmanluk5144
      @kinmanluk5144 2 роки тому

      Bless you all, you save the baby girl's life

    • @PATRICIAOWENS-fu5xo
      @PATRICIAOWENS-fu5xo 6 місяців тому

      Why in so many of videos from China are babies dressed in coats way over dressed in videos looked stuffed hard to hold 😮

  • @millawitt1882
    @millawitt1882 2 місяці тому

    You are a beautiful family - and you are parents that EVERY child should have👍😀

  • @francinelaurin7779
    @francinelaurin7779 3 роки тому +5

    Blessings from above ..an Angel Chinese dolly ..Blessed is her Forever❤️Family
    ..moi, Canada 🇨🇦🌺

  • @sharonenos1370
    @sharonenos1370 5 років тому +10

    This is a wonderful video!! Dad's commentary is great. One thing I love about this video is you showed time with your daughter after "gotcha day". Yes, touristy stuff, but lots of time with your daughter. Helena, try to have patience and sympathy for the idiots who post negative comments about your family and your video. Their lives must be very dreary to find something negative to post. Love the dogs, too. I grew up in Bessemer, AL in the 60's and 70's when it was safe to live there! Currently living in Richland, WA. But I come home about once a year. Awesome video. Especially great since it was done in 2001!

  • @francinelaurin7779
    @francinelaurin7779 3 роки тому +5

    you are a great commentator DaDa ..Helena must be close to 19 yr old at this time ..she certainly is Loved and Wanted ..Dearest Helena ..follow your dreams!! ..moi Canada 🇨🇦

  • @monalisaaugustus1563
    @monalisaaugustus1563 3 роки тому +2

    I enjoyed watching this video. Helena, you are so beautiful and a precious baby. Your parents are wonderful. God bless your family.

  • @gerardconsidinejr.2802
    @gerardconsidinejr.2802 4 роки тому +7

    Poor little sweetie is cryin, that’s ok you have a great new mommy and daddy !

  • @antoniosalcido1129
    @antoniosalcido1129 7 років тому +15

    What a blessing for Helena to have you as parents

  • @swedens1151
    @swedens1151 7 місяців тому +1

    Il video di adozione più bello in assoluto ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤... complimenti a mamma e papà per questo video... Helena sei bellissima

  • @barbibutton9619
    @barbibutton9619 4 роки тому +5

    She's so calm and okay with you taking her home. Amazing.

  • @aparnasandeep5055
    @aparnasandeep5055 5 років тому +12

    Aww she s so cute😘😘😘

  • @wendelclark6284
    @wendelclark6284 3 роки тому +5

    i really like the adorable child helena, she and me originally from the same city nanchang.

  • @tommylagan
    @tommylagan 2 роки тому +2

    Just watched ur video today have a fantastic Xmas day family

  • @esmeesme7666
    @esmeesme7666 4 роки тому +4

    Cuteness and love!! So happy!!

  • @lilgeorge34
    @lilgeorge34 4 роки тому +4

    I want her...she is beautiful...best wishes to you all.

  • @dianabeurman9937
    @dianabeurman9937 4 роки тому +6

    BEAUTIFUL BABY, PROBABLY A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN NOW!

  • @barbibutton9619
    @barbibutton9619 5 років тому +6

    TY for adopting. One less child. Never alone, never again precious baby

  • @lynnbairefoot3907
    @lynnbairefoot3907 5 років тому +17

    Daddy I love the way you talk to her while feeding her. It seems to comfort and soothe her. I love the way you hold her! Great father you are!

  • @pollyvynl1213
    @pollyvynl1213 5 років тому +22

    She certainly is gorgeous !! - would love to see some “ grown up “ pictures of her now - I expect she has grown into a beautiful young lady .

  • @madamjaynie87
    @madamjaynie87 4 роки тому +5

    Oh my goodness she’s darling!!!!

  • @testpilot1604
    @testpilot1604 5 років тому +3

    This is so prescious ,Thank you for sharing. I love watching ,Gotcha day videos ,someone should make a tv show out of it . Very interesting to see the baby's reaction ,when greeting their parents on that day . the Gotcha day baby's are so cute.💏👶🍼

  • @CeciliaLCalub
    @CeciliaLCalub 5 років тому +21

    Chinese babies are so adorable...😍😍

  • @user-zr9nl2wl3o
    @user-zr9nl2wl3o 7 місяців тому +1

    I have just seen this video and have to comment what a beautiful and adorable baby Helena is however I do not care at all for the adoptive parents for so many different reasons. I hope I am wrong and Helena had a happy and loving upbringing.

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 6 місяців тому

      Very loving and happy🫰🏼

  • @magnificent6668
    @magnificent6668 2 роки тому +3

    Aww, her Daddy was so proud of her.

  • @milroynishantha6458
    @milroynishantha6458 2 роки тому +2

    I Love you Chain Baby And Family 🌸🌸🌻🌻🌼🌼💛💙🧡🙏🙏

  • @mariajosemartidaras8930
    @mariajosemartidaras8930 2 роки тому +4

    pareja que hermosa niña que disfrutéis amándola y criandola yo llevo tiempo en querer apdotar tambien y no sé a dónde ir por las escrituras creo que Helena tiene ahora 19años es hermosa felicidades👍💯😘💖🇪🇸MJ Valencia

  • @liliatiberti7228
    @liliatiberti7228 2 роки тому +1

    Bella e vivace, è una gioia guardarla! ☆♥☆♥☆♥☆

  • @joselynengaling6932
    @joselynengaling6932 2 роки тому +3

    She's intelligent coz she's aware of what's happening

  • @barbibutton9619
    @barbibutton9619 5 років тому +6

    She was very very brave

  • @debralawrence3582
    @debralawrence3582 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful

  • @maryamsoltani4890
    @maryamsoltani4890 4 роки тому +3

    Nice family! Very beautiful baby!

  • @annetteathanasatos1229
    @annetteathanasatos1229 3 роки тому +2

    She is a beautiful baby.

  • @user-dm1qj5fr3r
    @user-dm1qj5fr3r 2 місяці тому

    Hermosa la bebé. Extrañará a su gente ??. Lo superará, será feliz con el amor que le dará su nueva familia. BENDICIONES ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @lomahtw
    @lomahtw 7 років тому +12

    such a cutie. was it 16 years ago? she must have grown up as a nice teenager girl. best luck to your family.

  • @SewFrancine6120
    @SewFrancine6120 5 років тому +6

    Child is adorable I always feel better when they are young..
    Not as traumatic
    The father's background commentary. Eh imho

  • @debralawrence3582
    @debralawrence3582 3 роки тому +2

    These parents r so good, there are sadly several horror stories I've watched

  • @janscribner2401
    @janscribner2401 3 роки тому +3

    Best video.

  • @doriswhittemoore6457
    @doriswhittemoore6457 11 місяців тому +1

    What a beautiful baby and nice not to hear the same music over and over thank you!

  • @sil349
    @sil349 3 роки тому +4

    Pense em uma bebê linda! Ela parece uma boneca! Queria uma igual pra mim... 😊💕💖

  • @carmelam.mcmahon447
    @carmelam.mcmahon447 3 роки тому +3

    Helena is such a beautiful and precious baby. God bless your family. How old is she in this video?

  • @chickadee39
    @chickadee39 5 років тому +6

    Did she come straight from foster parents?..I have noticed the babies from foster carers seem to struggle the most and find it more difficult to settle..
    Just a observation!!..
    Beautiful baby girl.😚

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +3

      I came from an orphanage, and thank you!

    • @janisfallstich1567
      @janisfallstich1567 4 роки тому +5

      @@HelenaUrban you are so beautiful 💛

    • @chickadee39
      @chickadee39 4 роки тому

      @cloudzinmyize 👍👍❤

  • @ceciliapagano6636
    @ceciliapagano6636 3 роки тому +3

    E molto intelligente✌🙎‍♀️

  • @samsara-summermooncomehome5881
    @samsara-summermooncomehome5881 6 років тому +16

    Poor baby, so scared and confused. It’s a blessing that she’s young enough to forget . But I’m sure it didn’t take long for her to realise just how much she’s loved. I wonder what chaos she causes now at 16!😊💖

    • @charlesurban62
      @charlesurban62  6 років тому +17

      samsara 1970 She will 18 on Sat Mar 17 2018. Graduating Art School and off to College. YES, she started out as and continues to be a "Daddys Girl"

    • @gaelcrane8008
      @gaelcrane8008 5 років тому +3

      Charly The Badass Urban wishful thinking no, not by the looks of things did she appear to be a “daddy”s girl”, don’t think-she started out that way, lol she was a mommy’s girl for sure.

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +14

      @@gaelcrane8008 nah, I was a always a daddy's girl! Haha

    • @loriadams7724
      @loriadams7724 4 роки тому +3

      Helena Urban hope you are doing well, and enjoying college. 💜🥰

    • @kimw8054
      @kimw8054 4 роки тому +1

      @@HelenaUrban looks are deceiving. Wishing you the best though!!!

  • @carolleffingwell7428
    @carolleffingwell7428 5 років тому +8

    She should have been able to sleep that first morning. She seemed like she wanted to.

  • @alessandrodesangro8881
    @alessandrodesangro8881 5 років тому +3

    ❤💕

  • @idawong9203
    @idawong9203 4 роки тому +4

    Daddy , girl

  • @Vinterfrid
    @Vinterfrid 3 роки тому +2

    is it a typical American thing always having the TV on? And loud too? Not even turning the sound off while you are supposed to focus on the most precious thing you have? Not possible to provide some quiet surrounding to the toddler?

  • @enricaferri2039
    @enricaferri2039 2 роки тому +2

    Che bambini fortunati, finalmente se ne vanno da quello squallido paese dove hanno conosciuto solamente la tristezza e l'angoscia dell'orfanatrofio. Ora avranno affetto e amore .

  • @sil349
    @sil349 4 роки тому +6

    Que bebezinha mais linda!!! Parece uma bonequinha chinesa! ❤️

  • @snowwhite5933
    @snowwhite5933 5 років тому +3

    👏🙏👍🤗💕💖💝

  • @sherrymelvin25
    @sherrymelvin25 4 роки тому +3

    Those poor babies 😢

  • @ceciliapagano6636
    @ceciliapagano6636 3 роки тому +1

    E vivace👏☺️🙎‍♀️

  • @sil349
    @sil349 3 роки тому +3

    Que bebezinha mais linda! 😍💕

  • @diniemadsen4778
    @diniemadsen4778 5 років тому +15

    Turn that tv off, you hear that tv all the time at the back ground, dad sounds out of breath.

    • @charlesurban62
      @charlesurban62  5 років тому +4

      I seriously wish that I had thought of it. We watch this film every Gotcha Dsy and the sound kills me. Thank YOU for watching and commenting.

    • @gaelcrane8008
      @gaelcrane8008 5 років тому +1

      Dinie Madsen yes, he sounds short of breath and a little hard of hearing but otherwise good vlog!

    • @teresalipot7111
      @teresalipot7111 4 роки тому +1

      So what if the TV is on. I'd maybe turn it to Sesame Street, but television is a common way to learn language, especially for a 1 year old baby.

  • @sohaila-tb8ug
    @sohaila-tb8ug 3 роки тому +2

    انا لم أفهم ما تتكلمون ولكن اعرف من صور انكم تقومون بعمل جميل 🌹❤️

  • @ceciliapagano6636
    @ceciliapagano6636 3 роки тому +1

    Questi baby sviluppano altre capacita

  • @paulat6622
    @paulat6622 2 роки тому +2

    How is she doing today

  • @robbieh.chafin6202
    @robbieh.chafin6202 5 років тому +5

    Never saw her smile

  • @pattyhoyt1802
    @pattyhoyt1802 4 роки тому +5

    I bet baby would of liked some toys to play with!!!!!!!

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 4 роки тому

      Patty Hoyt I bet would’ve.

    • @Michelle-jo6ij
      @Michelle-jo6ij 4 роки тому +1

      Yes! I was thinking the same thing? Not even anything on the plane either!? Wow!!

    • @shamseshamousa
      @shamseshamousa 3 роки тому

      Play right then??? No getting to know getting in touch with them is better rather than distracting baby with toys

  • @kenhill3618
    @kenhill3618 6 років тому +5

    hey cant we even have a picture of her now she is grownup?

    • @barbarawhitley5094
      @barbarawhitley5094 5 років тому +2

      Ken Hill look on two posts up and she replies herself on there and she’s very pretty

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +2

      barbara whitley Awww thank you so much!

    • @barbibutton9619
      @barbibutton9619 4 роки тому

      @@HelenaUrban you are beautiful. Hoping you are happy and at peace with your first yr of life. God go with you.

    • @judithryle2113
      @judithryle2113 6 місяців тому

      Dad talks too much

  • @ceciliapagano6636
    @ceciliapagano6636 3 роки тому +1

    Dove sono?😥😥

  • @user-uo6se9cw1g
    @user-uo6se9cw1g 6 років тому +7

    greetings from china.i am curious about how does her look like now

    • @barbibutton9619
      @barbibutton9619 5 років тому +2

      I m curious if she is HAPPY and HEALTHY now

    • @gaelcrane8008
      @gaelcrane8008 5 років тому

      乾杨 not like she did when she was a baby. Look at family members, friends and you’ll see what she looks like as an adult.

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +2

      Haha, I will tell him to post videos and pics of me now

    • @katherinefurbys8611
      @katherinefurbys8611 4 роки тому +2

      @@HelenaUrban That would be lovely. Please don't let the nasty people upset you. You have wonderful parents.

    • @shamseshamousa
      @shamseshamousa 3 роки тому

      @@HelenaUrban i hope you respect & adore your parents. They bought you from china to give you life you have now

  • @myriamazema6834
    @myriamazema6834 3 роки тому

    Est ce qu il y a tjrs des enfants à adopter en Chine notamment des filles ?

  • @edmeasouzagouvea9354
    @edmeasouzagouvea9354 11 місяців тому +2

    Que bebê 1:43 Linda

  • @annetteathanasatos1229
    @annetteathanasatos1229 3 роки тому

    What is wrong with the baby's right cheek?

  • @ceciliapagano6636
    @ceciliapagano6636 3 роки тому +1

    Com e seria triste?😥😥

  • @bernadetevazdemelo1103
    @bernadetevazdemelo1103 6 років тому +1

    Como está Helena agora aos 16 anos de idade, a família pode me informar? ??

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +2

      Voy a cumplir 19 años en marzo

    • @mariabernadetemendes9160
      @mariabernadetemendes9160 5 років тому

      @@HelenaUrban , vc está uma moça linda, sempre foi. Mora com seus pais? Nos EUA? Não me leve a mal, mas vc teve curiosidade de conhecer seus pais biológicos? Bjos e obrigada.

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +3

      I do live in EUS! I appreciate the respectful way you are asking. Yes I am curious to meet them but I doubt it would be possible. I am very happy and was raised so well by my parents!❤️ I love so much. Going to the United States Air Force soon!

  • @joycekavanaugh9524
    @joycekavanaugh9524 Рік тому +1

    Daddy is in heaven

    • @nanyanguo1
      @nanyanguo1 Рік тому +1

      ? do you know the family

  • @cinziacapuzzi5228
    @cinziacapuzzi5228 3 роки тому

    Perché non la lascia dormire?

  • @user-ff3fp4nw9h
    @user-ff3fp4nw9h 3 роки тому

    Да возможно они хорошие родители, но ребенка надо чем то развлечь а не просто держать на руках. Ведь детя к ним ещё не привыкла.

  • @whitesnake6970
    @whitesnake6970 7 років тому +6

    Beautiful people

  • @ceciliapagano6636
    @ceciliapagano6636 3 роки тому +1

    Com e attenta a tutto😳😳

  • @maryjones8554
    @maryjones8554 2 роки тому

    Top tip: when trying to settle a baby to sleep. Feed them and turn the lights down low.

  • @melinajd
    @melinajd 3 роки тому

    Beautiful baby! Beautiful! But, I don’t understand.... you just have a one toy in a hotel?You are not playing with baby ?

  • @user-ff3fp4nw9h
    @user-ff3fp4nw9h 3 роки тому

    Сама сидит и хочет чтобы и ребенок сидел, но так не бывает ребёнок любит игры и движение

  • @nihalenson9747
    @nihalenson9747 4 роки тому +4

    She is adorable...however mama looks distant and not so happy with this lovely baby

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 4 роки тому +2

      nihal enson she was very happy☺️☺️

  • @teresalipot7111
    @teresalipot7111 4 роки тому +1

    Poor Angel sounds hoarse. I wonder if she is sick?

  • @MM.Romeynders
    @MM.Romeynders 5 років тому +1

    This is sob sad. Plus she had flu or something. She needed to be hold the whole time to make her feel safe. I hope all went well quickly. But she still cried after the adoption process with the fingerprints. 😢 not really a happy girl for quite a while. Why did you wake her up so early?

    • @barbarawhitley5094
      @barbarawhitley5094 5 років тому +2

      MM K they often have very early appointments to sign papers etc

    • @judithryle2113
      @judithryle2113 5 років тому +2

      They seem a little old for such a young baby

    • @judithryle2113
      @judithryle2113 5 років тому +1

      Kim never talks to her

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +10

      Judith Ryle first of all who is Kim......??? And who ASKED FOR YOUR OPINION ON MY PARENTS AGE??🧐

    • @sharonenos1370
      @sharonenos1370 5 років тому +5

      @@HelenaUrban You go girl!!!

  • @rhondanelson2669
    @rhondanelson2669 5 років тому +3

    I wouldn't want to be stuck with them as parents.

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +16

      Rhonda Nelson and I would really hate to even meet a person like you.

  • @maryjones8554
    @maryjones8554 3 роки тому +1

    That TV was way too loud!

  • @shamseshamousa
    @shamseshamousa 3 роки тому

    She knows if she cries SOMEONE will pick her up
    She knows that she can make a fuss and people will love her more.
    Not like heartless orphanage ladies
    The babies mostly ignore woman because of that

  • @samducisco4342
    @samducisco4342 5 років тому +2

    Stop taken pictures She afraid enough

    • @barbarawhitley5094
      @barbarawhitley5094 5 років тому +2

      Samdu Cisco they did, mum said no more pictures I need to comfort my baby now.

    • @shamseshamousa
      @shamseshamousa 3 роки тому

      Don’t judge
      So many things are going on around taking pictures is least of concern
      Memories of that moment is so important for that baby

  • @jaynepeach4689
    @jaynepeach4689 9 місяців тому

    She looks so sad and disoriented. Hope she settled and was given the opportunity to contact her biological parents

  • @jangqing7983
    @jangqing7983 5 років тому +3

    國家在販賣人口

  • @taristoeckelmann9205
    @taristoeckelmann9205 4 роки тому +1

    Very disturbing to me how some of the fathers conversation.

  • @carolmunro2028
    @carolmunro2028 3 роки тому +1

    Mom's not into it.

    • @shamseshamousa
      @shamseshamousa 3 роки тому +2

      No she is present she is observing and feeling

  • @zinakara1774
    @zinakara1774 5 років тому +4

    I DONT LIKE THIS MOTHER SHE DIDINT KISS THIS SWEET BABY ONLY FATHER IS TAKE KARE !!!!

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +11

      Zina Kara haha you didn’t see it in the video but I have received countless upon millions of kisses from that woman❤️❤️❤️

  • @jeannedonkers7630
    @jeannedonkers7630 5 років тому

    why always such old parents ???

    • @jeannedonkers7630
      @jeannedonkers7630 5 років тому

      @@gaelcrane8008 should

    • @jeannedonkers7630
      @jeannedonkers7630 5 років тому +2

      No, I always read that adoptive parents may not be too old, logish by the way, and then I still see old (re) foster parents ... also that one should not have too much obesity, well ........ Then I say nothing more

    • @gaelcrane8008
      @gaelcrane8008 5 років тому

      Jeanne Donkers no, I understand they’re certainly not in their 20’s. Lol!

    • @HelenaUrban
      @HelenaUrban 5 років тому +11

      @@jeannedonkers7630 How about you keep your comments about my parents appearance to yourself. Why do you see a reason to leave negative comments?... Yeah let's see what you look like?

    • @barbarawhitley5094
      @barbarawhitley5094 5 років тому +9

      What does it matter how old someone is or what they weigh, these people found it in their hearts to want to love another child, adoption isn’t easy so think how committed they must have been to go through all the hoops they had to jump through: have their whole life scrutinised in finite detail. That little girl has grown into a beautiful intelligent young woman because they cared for her. How dare people make such rude ignorant comments about people the know nothing about.