not so iron facing communist China! she surrendered Hong Kong to communist China! she is basically a bully , only though when facing the more vulnerable!
@@TELEVISIBLE I thought that was after her tenure? Sorry, my British history is sketchy at best... But yeah, my jaw about fully reached the floor by, "If we're to turn this country around, we really must abandon outdated & misguided notions of collective duty." ................. JAYSUS
China and the UK already had a written down agreement that Hong Kong has to be "given back" to China after 100 years .... So Thatcher wouldnt be able to do anything, even if she wanted to without starting a war
This series is about the queens life, not Margaret Thatcher - it wouldn't really make sense to include parts of her life that wasn't in the lime light of the public. But there is a scene that shows a younger Thatcher at University but I would agree that they could've made parts of her rise to leader of the opposition as her appearance in this series was set from 1979 when it could've been from 1975.
Already into episode 4 and Gillian is serving the Iron Lady Justice with her roll. She’s cold, strong, convictional and hardworking. Casting was perfect.
@Captain Blammo she’s the head of state chief ambassador of UK , representative of the institution that embody history and tradition of the UK. Patrons of countless charities defender of Anglican faith
Gillian did a better job than Meryl Streep, and Meryl was amazing in the Iron Lady! She won an Oscar! I think Gillian deserves the Golden Globe or Emmy as Best Supporting Actress in a drama series
Gillian was a bit exaggerated for me. The accent was too drawn out sounded like an 80yo Margaret not the sharp as whip jutting interruptions of thatcher prime. Also no constant smirk. Thatcher was really more obtuse with her self belief always performing. Gillian interpretation was more understated. Streep interpretation was more accurate for me
@@sugelite973 Yeah overall I liked Gillian's performance, but her Thatcher always seemed to be in a serious, or bad, mood. Or worse, tearful. With her mouth twisted into a weird frown. Margaret liked doing that smug, wry humor with a big smile.
Gillian did a great job doing thatcher..... i do have to say she CHANELLED Meryl Streep's Thatcher almost to the T.... they even look alike in Thatcher makeup!!
It’s because thatcher thought that people needed to take care of themselves, not depend on the government. In other words, government should get out of the way and people should get off the couch and go to work,
@@ericplunder2744 I guess the British people were also insensitive becuae she remained in power for another 6 years after that. But I can see how this could've been handled better.
It was 11 and 1/2 years. Yes, there was ice, frost and glaciers in between, but I'm sure there was a little bit more as Maggie Thatcher was given the Order of Merit, which The Queen had only given before to Winston Churchill. I've always admire Maggie. Last episode of this season confirms that The Queen also did. You also missed the attempt on her life!!!
Thatcher was never 'Head of State'; that's the Queen. Thatcher was 'Head of Government'. A small slip of the tongue by Anita, but one sometimes forgotten by Thatcher herself. By the way, when Thatcher came to power, she was determined to reduce the size of the state and control public sector pay in particular. However, one of the first things she did was to give the Police the biggest percentage rise they have ever had - before or since - she knew she was in for a fight at home. Part of paying for that was major cuts to the Defence budget. Had Argentina just waited 18 months, those cuts would have meant the UK could not have recovered the Falkland Islands.
She never 'claimed victory' after the last miners gave up and went back to work. Watch her immediate response to the news. It was humble, somber and she acknowledged the suffering of the families involved.
The decline of the coal industry occurred over many years. It was perhaps finished by Thatcher but not caused by her. A labour government would have had to deal with the same issue. Today coal would cause too much pollution apart from the economic factors. Maggie's economic policies as taught by Adam Smith were sound enough, as such but the problem was Adam Smith's philosophy taught in "The theory of moral sentiments". This idea of self interest is what lead to capitalism. It is human nature and effects all philosophies including socialism. The hard times her policies caused were the result of the drastic changes her polices brought about after a lot of welfare-ism and Maynard Keynes economics. Any drastic change will cause problems but the idea that "Give a person a fish and you feed them once, teach them how to fish and you feed them for life" holds true and many people do need to learn how to work and support themselves but have come to rely on the state for support. Our nations today have high taxation because those in work have to support those out of work. Even a socialist nation would need to get resources from somewhere to feed and clothe it's population which would normally be either its own populations efforts or slave labour. The same for private enterprise. Your mention of her saying replacing the rule of law with the rule of the mob rings true today does it not? Maggie was a self reliant person running a (if not socialist society)at least a society used to being looked after by the state.
3:02 I love The Crown, but come on Netflix, Thatcher was never head of state. Only the sovereign can be head of state, in this case, The Queen, your show’s protagonist.
@@maxblomqvist4794 you’re right! But I swear I heard head of state. I saw this minutes after it was posted, and I’m not the only one who noticed it. Regardless, season 4 is kicking ass!
Love her or hate her but you got to admit that atleast SHE had the balls to change the game especially since she was at office during one of Britain's desperate times.
@@carlamartinezvega13 point taken and thank you for shedding this one into light 😊. This really gives lot of room for me to reconsider. I am just sharing a honest view of how some (like me) perceive her given the records we have read and I truly appreciate your voice as it helps me understand more especially as I look at it as an outsider.
@@carlamartinezvega13 rubbish, public spending on health and welfare continued to rise and the economy she helped build led to better lives later on and saved lives.
I'm really fascinated in Margaret Thatcher politics. I'm not really have strong emotions as not British, but Thatcher has influence on other country, for example Poland, which she visited. I'm planning to dig into her career and to make my opiniom about her. But I know now that she is really influence figure, even you don't like her action. Can't wait to see Gilliam Anderson as her!
It was clear at the end of the 70s, that the current economic policies were becoming more and more obsolete. But the way of changing this was way too rigid. Deindustrialisation was a mistake
She's hated in Ireland for escalating the troubles in Northern Ireland dramatically with her polices, only did die down after she left office and the peace process began. She's hated in Northern England for breaking the workers unions and near abandonment of investment Northern England.
Say what you want about Thatcher and her policies, but you can't disagree she didn't earn her way to her position from hard work and determination. A trait all people should possess.
At Oxford "she was surrounded by the rich and privileged and had trouble making friends..." and then spent the rest of her life trying to make life easier for those rich and privileged people by screwing over the working class.
that’s the opposite, she tried to make the working class powerfull, unlike state sponsored proyects or the welfare politicians who only care for bread today, hunger tomorrow
Maggie didnt like women she wasn't a feminist, she was just ambitious I've heard her say some awful things about women being weak and worrying About monthly etc.
So many of the people denouncing Thatcherism here have no memory, probably because they were not even born yet, of how painful inflation was in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s and how it crippled every working person - inflation is a tax in work and on savings. Even worse the UK as well as the US was actually experiencing stagflation in the late 1970’s which is the horrendous combination of stagnation and inflation - so you have no prospects of getting a job and the money you have saved becomes worth less and less every day. There was no other alternative for the West but to take the very painful medicine needed to bring inflation under control, and to deal with the economic fallout of closing loss-making state run enterprises that demanded more and more of the budget while punishing ordinary working people with less and less services and higher and higher taxes and public debt.
I'm of the opinion that much of the vaunted gdp numbers of China in recent years have been propped up by State banks paying their failing and uncompetitive state run enterprises (that employ millions of Chinese). Now that C19 has decimated external demand and caused an internal crisis, perhaps the Chinese miracle has ended.
@@azmodanpc That is a very good point - I had not made that connection and I should have. We do a very bad job of studying and teaching the effects of the 1970’s stagflation crisis in current economics - we too often blame just the oil price shocks without focusing on the massive structural deficits governments were running and the crony-capitalist statist economy that existed (students today truly do not understand that the economy of the 1970s was so much more regulated and state sponsored than today in ways they could not imagine - companies like Über literally would have been illegal), so I think you draw a very compelling comparison of China today to the UK and US of the 1970’s with large state run enterprises and regulation and how it crippled these economies and caused massive inflation in order to support it. Very interesting.
@@cxa340 I think mainstream media is underestimating the total failure of the one child policy in China. The ramification there are staggering since there's no welfare, no safety net for the elderly (the young are educated since childhood to take care economically for their parents, always) and in 10 years time the working population (today's baby boomers) will start to retire. Nowadays many couples are finding it very difficult to raise children (even without the restriction of the one child policy lifted) and the replacement rate is trending ever lower. Coupled with a massive sprawl of state run enterprises and rising debt, the possibility that China will age before it gets rich is very high.
@@azmodanpc Ok - I would have to see the population data on this, but interesting point and we can look to the Eurozone to see this has already played out in other industrial countries before with dramatically awful economic consequences for almost everyone. Italy being probably the best example where for 20 years they were below replacement level and the effect has been an increasingly expensive state thrusted upon a smaller and smaller workforce, and we can look at almost any other eurozone country and find the same effects (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, even Germany to some extent), where higher government costs and smaller populations of workers became the catalyst for production to move to cheaper economies like Poland and Hungary when regulatory barriers were lifted and opportunities became available. If you hypothesis is correct, and the EU data would seem to suggest it is, then I would wager we will see industrial production move out of China and into other states like Vietnam, or more likely because of stability into Latin America where a strong dollar will make production in Brasil, Colombia, Chile, or El Salvador both cost effective and reliable. This could be hugely disastrous for China.
@@cxa340 Vietnam is already a main hub for low tech production outsourced from China. Bangladesh and other countries are already producing the textiles that China used to manufacture in the 90s and 2000s. Xi put all his weight on the tech industries and pushed for the IT local industries to counteract the western monopolies on tech. Regarding the similarities with the EU, it's true that many countries are paying through their noses for the staggering debt incurred and the reduction in active workforce but China has the added malus of limited immigration and a per capita income that's still very low. The fact that they have to import a big chunk of their foodstuff and are dependent on the dollar to buy just about everything is a drag too. I just don't see how they get out of the population and income trap. Their workforce is becoming very expensive too and I'm really interested in the real numbers for the exports (esp. since this christmas and thanksgiving will be less "rich").
the war with Argentina was so brutal, a bunch of 18 year olds died there. it’s weird to see as a Latin American how this was perceived by the English people.
Watching Season 4, Episode 3 - after the scene where Margaret gets her nails painted, you see a mouse Scurry across the screen! Look closely at the floor!
It’s actually pretty common knowledge that Buckingham Palace has a mouse infestation. Although the palace denies it, many visitors have seen mice when they visited.
Gillian Anderson did a remarkable job as Margaret Thatcher, but I think she overdid the voice. The real Thatcher had a deeper tone and Gillian was too familiar with Meryl Streep's potrayal as they both speak in higher pitch. Tho they both share the calmness.
@@saswatrath609 Margaret had dated said farmer and then on separating he started dating her sister, with. everyone in agreement that it was a good thing.
I always find it interesting when a self made politician that came from a low class treats the lower class when they get into power. Thatcher and her policies reminds me of Alexander Hamilton and his policies, which largely gave power to the rich and made them richer at the expense of the lower class, where he came from. Are they trying to prove themselves by hurting the poor and helping the rich? I am not ripping on Thatcher and Hamilton, I’m just pointing out an observation.
Triggered because she didn't give working people hand outs. She worked her way to the top but you expect her to pander to people that cant help themself?
Britain in the 70s was on the slide into economic oblivion after years of socialism had created a lazy entitled population used to government hand outs and labour union dictatorship. She was hated because she was both a woman and a conservative, but she put down the foundation that made the UK the economic power it is today and made London the economic and financial centre of Europe.
God bless Margaret Thatcher. The woman who put the great back in Great Britain.
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How would be Britain without Thatcher government? We usually criticize what was or what happened by comparing it to what we think it should have been. But "what we think it should have been" doesn't exist to be scrutinized. It is easy to claim a better hypothetical world. Reality has its tough rules, no matter who we want to blame. Ignoring the rules of nature is always the most expensive path. I live in a country where the government distributes a lot of money and keeps inefficient companies under its control. The inflation is high and, day by day, more people see no reason to work while they demand more public money (after all the prices are rising). But the prices also get higher for those who are diligently working and facing so many uncertainties. Is it fair? Life is not a fairytale. Government can print money, but still someone has to sow the rice.
Put it this way, I'm from one of the northern towns who were destroyed when she took away people's only source of income. Whilst what you see looks great on paper, she did it without safety nets or retraining throngs of blue-collar working-class workers. People worked, people were proud to work. Please do not make the mistake of harping on about the old adage of people not wanting to work because of free money.
@@lois7956 The lesson you should have learned is if a government can give something, then it can take it away. Sure they wanted to work. The problem is that all those towns were working on a house built on sand (i.e. other people's money controlled by a huge corporation called government). The whole point of Thatcher's policies is that the British Government had become one huge "safety net" about to fall on everyone. Your solution is basically replacing one safety net with another.
This video seems biased against her. Lots of talk about suffering and no discussion about her successes. Much of the statist policies of her predecessors had ossified the country and caused considerable economic strain. Why didn’t you actually cover this?
Britain was in desperate times, and Thatcher had to apply desperate measures. Britain is far better off now because of the Iron Lady, even if half the country will never admit it.
@@ruanlima1523 Nah your just not a conservative just admit it those people are really not alike especially Boris he hasn’t done anything compatible to the rest
Thatcher sounds terrible. I’m young and American and all we learned about her in school was that she was the first female prime minister, and that she was like the British, female Ronald Reagan. This video and the crown didn’t paint a prettier picture. By the end of the season, what was most disturbing to me was the length of her reign and her refusal to adapt. Not sure if that’s totally accurate, but she was called the Iron Lady. That length of reign and that attitude reeks more like a despot. Also, using wars to hold onto power, glory, and imperialism makes my blood boil. I think it would’ve made sense if she served one regular term, and then was voted out for making the lives of many of her citizens worse, and for not understanding the mechanisms that keep the poor poor. Lastly, I’m guessing they overdid this in the show, but it sorta seems like she completely failed to recognize her obvious privilege (white, secure nuclear family, inspiring hard working father, her immediate family didn’t get disrupted by WW2, some natural smarts, no major physical maladies, and the fact that I doubt she could’ve done all she did today without some more cash. And our today is very much shaped by reagan and thatcher, unfortunately).
To me, Thatcher was the best Prime Minister the Uk ever had. What you were taught about Thatcher was right. She and Regan were very much alike. They were even friends. The fact that she was PM for about 11 years just goes to show that she was a popular PM, despite having waves of unpopularity. If the British people wanted her out, then the Tories (short for the Conservatives party) would have done so a lot quicker than wait 11 whole years to do it. You don't know this about the Tories but, if they want to remove their leader, they'll do it no matter what. You only say she was a despot, despite not actually knowing a lot of her policies, I'm willing to bet. Thatcher had to bring the UK out of crippling debt due to a few reasons: one of them was partly to do with the financial aftermath of WW2, the other would be because of the Labour governments nationalising everything and giving more power to the Trade Unions. The power the Union had was so much that it caused the WInter of Discontent, that led Thatcher in the first place to win the 1979 General election, beating out James Callaghan (Labour PM at the time, your version of the Democrats). Thatcher curbing the Union's power was because of the public hating them so much. If anything, the Winter of discontent harmed the Uk more than Thatcher did. She wasn't a despot or despot adjacent. If she was, then the show would have been ousted immediately. In the UK, we have measures in place to remove PMs. It's called a "no-confidence motion", Basically, if the House of Commons loses confidence in the government, then the PM must call a general election so that a new government can be formed. I'm gonna assume you don't know the reason why the UK went to war with the Falklands. Long story short, Argentia invaded British land (The Falkland Islands), the UK responded. If someone just decided to one day try and take over a state, I doubt anyone in America would be too thrilled about that. Thatcher also wants an imperialist. She actually did a lot to help the poor, like her housing policy: she basically allowed for families to buy the council houses they were renting. This policy helped a lot of people get on the property ladder, and help them be more successful. Thatcher was also fine with having poor people and a divided society economically, so long as the standards, and what you get even when you're poor are better than what it could've been if you were poor in the 1950s. this is something I personally agree with. Finally, I think you overestimate Thatcher's situation. For all intents and purpose, she wasn't supposed to be PM. she wasn't even supposed to be the leader of the Tories/ leader of the opposition (basically a government in waiting for if the real government loses an election/ the current PM resigns to force an election. In the instance of the latter, the leader of the opposition would have 14 days to make a new government). when she was voted party leader, most of the party didn't like the fact that a woman was in charge of them. She also quite clearly worked hard to get where she got to. her father was also a greengrocer, which was not a high paying job. I've left a lot of information out and condemned what I did write about, but hopefully, this was informative. We probably have different ideas to how the Uk and the USA should be run, since you don't like Thacher or Regan, and I love them both,
"The Crown" is a work of fiction based loosely on real events and people. Nearly all the events and people depicted are done so crudely and exaggerated for dramatic effect. This little puff piece is here to entice you to watch the series, so won't contradict it greatly.
@@mariovasquez7672 ya lo sé, y es del mismo productor de esta serie. Pero si dan tanta manija, que hagan una serie, porque le dieron más manija que a Lady Di.
Fact is, Britain wouldn't be a world power if Thatcher hadn't existed. Do I agree with all her actions? Surely not! Am I happy with her legacy, regardless? Yes, I am!
Why were they bullies? The only bully behavior was making fun of her for her dress but honestly, how silly can you be to go hunting in a blue dress with high heels?
@@phoebeel honestly, do you actually think that really happened?? The Prime Minister is as well briefed as the Queen in matters of protocol. She would have been entirely aware of the requirement for outdoor country clothes and the routines of the Royal household. 'The Crown' is a dramatisation, you are not expected to think it's a documentary!
@@lisapritchard5078 well, you are not clearly saying in your comment if you're referring to the show or reality. since this whole video is about the show, I was assuming you meant what happened in the show.
I think a lot of her ideas were decent and came from a good place but her execution was dreadful and resulted in a lot of awful side effects. It’s a shame because she could have been amazing and exactly what we need nowadays, someone strong and decisive. But just not with the mass unemployment and the attempt to privatize the NHS among may other things.
Yep, the myth of so called conservatives that are spoon fed Randism (what's mine is mine and the rest can eff off) is appalling. Your privilege and existence is based in great part on enormous public investment and regulation. But then again most of those politicians are sheltered snobs that conned their way into power.
I have enjoyed this series so far for the relatively accurate portrayal of historical events, with just the right amount of drama thrown in. Sadly, the Netflix folks truly hate Thatcher and all that she stood for. She was sharp as a tack in the 1980s and truly turned around the nation. They portrayed Thatcher as a doddering old fool. She, Reagan, and the Pope helped bring down the Iron Curtain and change the world for the better. It was sad to see blatant leftist politics lead to such a shrill and inaccurate portrayal of one of the most important PMs UK has ever had. ( Churchill was the greatest, I know). I was disappointed that Netflix could not have more respect for accuracy.
My takeaway from all these comments, and I am included in this, is that Thatcher remains loved by many people against the left's constant insistence that nobody likes her.
From a German point of view, Thatcherism was logical, but without foresight and therefore nothing to copy. It is logical to close down unprofitable industries in order to say "we have no inefficient industries". But you can destroy the economy of an entire region. You create regional mass unemployment. You create social dynamite. Moreover, by closing down an industry you lose know-how that will never come back. Back then: hatred, protests. Today: continuous unemployment in the areas affected by Thatcherism and Great Britain is considered in Germany as a country where nothing but a little scrap metal is produced - kept alive only by its banking sector.
We are a service-based economy and the vast majority of our companies are SMEs, so there's actually a lot more than just the banking sector fuelling our economy.
@@davidblackwood106: Sorry, I was inaccurate: "Kept alive only by its banking and service sector where mainly people with a higher education find useful jobs while excluding people with intermediate or lower education and which are mainly present in large urban areas not in areas where jobs are really needed and which are extremely vulnerable to global recessions". Did you get the main problem of your country NOW?
@@julianosvonskingrad7009 That's actually entirely inaccurate and misinformed considering the fact that this pandemic has been terrible for urban areas and in many ways benefited other parts of the country. Also, why do so many Europeans love to hate on the UK? Go worry about yourselves for a change.
@@davidblackwood106: I was not talking about pandemics. At least I can not see where I did that. Can you show me? Probably me and my university degree in economics are just not as well informed as you are. Who said something about hate? Can you show me where the discussion changed its topic? We do worry a lot about our problems. But they are not even as big as Great Britain's problems.
I miss a lot of her controversial politicus, like poll tax, clause 28. Also when she became the face of the Tories in 1975. And her near escape of a terrorist attack in Brighton in 1984.
You need to understand how bad the British economy was in 1979 - imagine having inflation rates upwards of 20% so that buying a house, car, or major appliance is expensive simply because of the interest rate on your credit, imagine whole entire industries protesting and refusing to work like coal miners and garbage collectors yet you as a taxpayer keep having to pay more and more in taxes for less services, and imagine your children having no chance of finding a job because there is no economic growth within the country because industry is strangled. By 1979 the British economy had become an economy of selected winners and a lot of losers - anyone who was not politically collected and worked in a public entity was a loser in this game and expected to pay more and receive less while public sector employees wielded huge political influence and were the winners able to demand huge parts of the British budget to pay for their existence. Thatcherism was more about restoring a sense of justice and fair play than anything and ending the politics corruption of the Heath government that saw ordinary working people being destroyed by political mismanagement and corruption.
If it hadn't been for the war with Argentina, Thatcher would've fallen right away. I still don't understand what Britain was doing in such remote territory, that clearly belonged to Argentina.
Please explain how it “clearly belonged to Argentina” when it had been British territory for over 100 years at that point and was and still is almost entirely populated by people of British descent?
@@jorgecuna8533 that literally never happened, in 1820 a captain claimed the islands for Argentina, 55 years AFTER Britain claimed them. And then in 1833 Britain reestablished control of the islands.
There is no debate, the UK was in collapse after years of socialist rule under both conservatives and labour since ww2 ended and thatcher fixed all that. It was a necessary pain for the nation to suffer and thrive in the decades that followed.
It’s a trip to see Thatcher talking with her daughter Carol... who was played by Olivia Colman in “The Iron Lady”
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not so iron facing communist China! she surrendered Hong Kong to communist China! she is basically a bully , only though when facing the more vulnerable!
@@TELEVISIBLE I thought that was after her tenure? Sorry, my British history is sketchy at best...
But yeah, my jaw about fully reached the floor by, "If we're to turn this country around, we really must abandon outdated & misguided notions of collective duty."
................. JAYSUS
@@TELEVISIBLE if you think China was more powerful than NATO in the 90s, you know nothing of history
China and the UK already had a written down agreement that Hong Kong has to be "given back" to China after 100 years .... So Thatcher wouldnt be able to do anything, even if she wanted to without starting a war
I am more interested now in “Beneath the crown” than “The Crown” itself.
I feel dumb. What do you mean?
@@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 OP prefers these UA-cam videos over the Netflix series itself.
Same. I was bored out of my mind watching The Crown.
both are biased and not informational.
2:53 What happened between 1951 and 1979? That entire "Rise to Power" part was missing..
Exactly! It was just skipped over.
This series is about the queens life, not Margaret Thatcher - it wouldn't really make sense to include parts of her life that wasn't in the lime light of the public. But there is a scene that shows a younger Thatcher at University but I would agree that they could've made parts of her rise to leader of the opposition as her appearance in this series was set from 1979 when it could've been from 1975.
Already into episode 4 and Gillian is serving the Iron Lady Justice with her roll. She’s cold, strong, convictional and hardworking. Casting was perfect.
@Karen Byrd If you knew Gillian's career a little, y'ould know this was not a surprise. Gillian Anderson has long shown she is an excellent actress.
Gillian should win many awards for this role.
Judging by the comments section, it's either I'm ridiculously early or people just don't have strong emotions about Thatcher... I'm early, aren't I?
No. I'm watching and I hate her so much that I actually consider Thatcher to be the main proof that women should be banned from politics.
@@madampluto3092 wtf, you must be joking
@@brandonmontgomery3279 No, I'm not. And she's only one of the reasons why I think so.
@@madampluto3092 her being a horrible person has nothing to do with her gender
I don't like her because of her political idiology, not because of her gender or personality. To be honest I when it comes to her I feel conflicted.
I just watched the 3 first episodes & truly Gillian is a genius actor - I think I will watch it all by next 2 days 😁😁😁
Peter Morgan is gillians partner btw
Emmy worthy performance! Same with Josh O’Conner playing Prince Charles.
The Prime Minister is Head of Government. The Queen is Head of State.
It’s been edited. It’s right now!
Please someone else comment that “Thatcher wasn’t head of state”. Jeez, we got the memo!
Iktr!! Do people read comments? Do they not know that they merely have to click on "thumbs up" button?
Thank you!.. someone pls pin this comment
Netflix have edited this video and changed it to head of government
Thatcher wasn’t head of state.
You are one hot lady 😍
Head of government not head of state. Her majesty is head of state.
They’ve changed it now. All ok!
reminds me of Sarah Palin lmao
@Captain Blammo she’s the head of state chief ambassador of UK , representative of the institution that embody history and tradition of the UK. Patrons of countless charities defender of Anglican faith
PM is the one with the power
Captain Blammo In 2020, we Brits are rethinking some of this, that is a fact
Binge watched all 10 on Sunday. Gillian is a wonder!!!! Absolutely nails Thatcher!!!! Great season, already buzzing for season 5!!!!
Seems like a horrible country to live in
Gillian did a better job than Meryl Streep, and Meryl was amazing in the Iron Lady! She won an Oscar! I think Gillian deserves the Golden Globe or Emmy as Best Supporting Actress in a drama series
Gillian was a bit exaggerated for me. The accent was too drawn out sounded like an 80yo Margaret not the sharp as whip jutting interruptions of thatcher prime. Also no constant smirk. Thatcher was really more obtuse with her self belief always performing. Gillian interpretation was more understated. Streep interpretation was more accurate for me
Just give Gillian all the awards now, she kicked butt.
@@sugelite973 Yeah overall I liked Gillian's performance, but her Thatcher always seemed to be in a serious, or bad, mood. Or worse, tearful. With her mouth twisted into a weird frown. Margaret liked doing that smug, wry humor with a big smile.
Gillian did a great job doing thatcher..... i do have to say she CHANELLED Meryl Streep's Thatcher almost to the T.... they even look alike in Thatcher makeup!!
The impression that Thatcher lacked compassion exists is because Thatcher lacked compassion.
It’s because thatcher thought that people needed to take care of themselves, not depend on the government. In other words, government should get out of the way and people should get off the couch and go to work,
@@gustavmaia sure. Shut down a mine that supports an entire region then complain that people aren't working. No transition. No retraining.
Genius.
@@ericplunder2744 I guess the British people were also insensitive becuae she remained in power for another 6 years after that. But I can see how this could've been handled better.
@@ericplunder2744 lol. Labour closed more mines than Thatcher.
@@cliftonian10 that's indeed true.
It was 11 and 1/2 years. Yes, there was ice, frost and glaciers in between, but I'm sure there was a little bit more as Maggie Thatcher was given the Order of Merit, which The Queen had only given before to Winston Churchill. I've always admire Maggie. Last episode of this season confirms that The Queen also did. You also missed the attempt on her life!!!
Thatcher was never 'Head of State'; that's the Queen. Thatcher was 'Head of Government'. A small slip of the tongue by Anita, but one sometimes forgotten by Thatcher herself. By the way, when Thatcher came to power, she was determined to reduce the size of the state and control public sector pay in particular. However, one of the first things she did was to give the Police the biggest percentage rise they have ever had - before or since - she knew she was in for a fight at home. Part of paying for that was major cuts to the Defence budget. Had Argentina just waited 18 months, those cuts would have meant the UK could not have recovered the Falkland Islands.
Hardly a slip of the tongue, she is reading a script. Quite the mistake from the makers of The Crown.
They’ve corrected the video now.
classic far right figure...cut social benefits...increase police and military ten fold
In what way does paying the police a rise (a drop in the ocean in terms of the national budget) mean major cuts to defence?
She never 'claimed victory' after the last miners gave up and went back to work.
Watch her immediate response to the news. It was humble, somber and she acknowledged the suffering of the families involved.
Feels like im on cbbc
The decline of the coal industry occurred over many years. It was perhaps finished by Thatcher but not caused by her. A labour government would have had to deal with the same issue. Today coal would cause too much pollution apart from the economic factors. Maggie's economic policies as taught by Adam Smith were sound enough, as such but the problem was Adam Smith's philosophy taught in "The theory of moral sentiments". This idea of self interest is what lead to capitalism. It is human nature and effects all philosophies including socialism. The hard times her policies caused were the result of the drastic changes her polices brought about after a lot of welfare-ism and Maynard Keynes economics. Any drastic change will cause problems but the idea that "Give a person a fish and you feed them once, teach them how to fish and you feed them for life" holds true and many people do need to learn how to work and support themselves but have come to rely on the state for support. Our nations today have high taxation because those in work have to support those out of work. Even a socialist nation would need to get resources from somewhere to feed and clothe it's population which would normally be either its own populations efforts or slave labour. The same for private enterprise. Your mention of her saying replacing the rule of law with the rule of the mob rings true today does it not? Maggie was a self reliant person running a (if not socialist society)at least a society used to being looked after by the state.
3:02 I love The Crown, but come on Netflix, Thatcher was never head of state. Only the sovereign can be head of state, in this case, The Queen, your show’s protagonist.
It's such qualm to remember that their analysis about the history is splendid yet still failed to address their subjects perfectly.
but she literally says "head of governmenr" though
@@maxblomqvist4794 you’re right! But I swear I heard head of state. I saw this minutes after it was posted, and I’m not the only one who noticed it. Regardless, season 4 is kicking ass!
@@ramonhara7673 Tons of people are correcting her in the comments and its driving me nuts 😂 and yeah season 4 was great
That's probably why she referred to her as "Head of Government" in the video...why do people keep doing this same comment over and over?
Love her or hate her but you got to admit that atleast SHE had the balls to change the game especially since she was at office during one of Britain's desperate times.
For leaving thousands of people to starvation and unemployement , you dont need balls, you just have to plain mean and a SOB, which she was
@@carlamartinezvega13 point taken and thank you for shedding this one into light 😊. This really gives lot of room for me to reconsider. I am just sharing a honest view of how some (like me) perceive her given the records we have read and I truly appreciate your voice as it helps me understand more especially as I look at it as an outsider.
@Karen Byrd I think Britain is counting on a no deal brexit
@@carlamartinezvega13 she didn't do any of that.
@@carlamartinezvega13 rubbish, public spending on health and welfare continued to rise and the economy she helped build led to better lives later on and saved lives.
The narration by Anita Rani is excellent.
I'm really fascinated in Margaret Thatcher politics. I'm not really have strong emotions as not British, but Thatcher has influence on other country, for example Poland, which she visited. I'm planning to dig into her career and to make my opiniom about her. But I know now that she is really influence figure, even you don't like her action.
Can't wait to see Gilliam Anderson as her!
It was clear at the end of the 70s, that the current economic policies were becoming more and more obsolete. But the way of changing this was way too rigid. Deindustrialisation was a mistake
@@oLii96x thanks for opinion 😄
She's hated in Ireland for escalating the troubles in Northern Ireland dramatically with her polices, only did die down after she left office and the peace process began. She's hated in Northern England for breaking the workers unions and near abandonment of investment Northern England.
@@icemanire5467 she is LOATHED in Scotland
In Scottish dictionaries, Evil unfeeling woman = Margaret Thatcher.
she wasn’t head of state. that’s the queen.
Brown haired lady did NOT get it right.
Rather strange to get that one wrong given this is from the makers of The Crown.
She literally said "head of government" (which she was), not "head of state"
Netflix have edited the video. She DID say head of state but now they’ve changed it to be right.
She was a truly evil witch
The Prime Minister is not the head of state, that would be The Queen.
In name only. The queen just sits there and absorbs money.
They’ve changed the video to head of government now.
Say what you want about Thatcher and her policies, but you can't disagree she didn't earn her way to her position from hard work and determination. A trait all people should possess.
At Oxford "she was surrounded by the rich and privileged and had trouble making friends..." and then spent the rest of her life trying to make life easier for those rich and privileged people by screwing over the working class.
Ding ding ding!
Without her their wouldn't be s working class. There would be an underclass. She rescued the economy
@@JumboCod91 ok rich boy
@@JumboCod91 Ouch! My eyes rolled so hard that it hurt.
that’s the opposite, she tried to make the working class powerfull, unlike state sponsored proyects or the welfare politicians who only care for bread today, hunger tomorrow
Thatcher was like an anti-feminist, what are you talking about?
@@PC1974 so because she didnr give women jobs because of their gender, shes anti feminist? Grow up lol
Maggie didnt like women she wasn't a feminist, she was just ambitious I've heard her say some awful things about women being weak and worrying About monthly etc.
So many of the people denouncing Thatcherism here have no memory, probably because they were not even born yet, of how painful inflation was in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s and how it crippled every working person - inflation is a tax in work and on savings.
Even worse the UK as well as the US was actually experiencing stagflation in the late 1970’s which is the horrendous combination of stagnation and inflation - so you have no prospects of getting a job and the money you have saved becomes worth less and less every day.
There was no other alternative for the West but to take the very painful medicine needed to bring inflation under control, and to deal with the economic fallout of closing loss-making state run enterprises that demanded more and more of the budget while punishing ordinary working people with less and less services and higher and higher taxes and public debt.
I'm of the opinion that much of the vaunted gdp numbers of China in recent years have been propped up by State banks paying their failing and uncompetitive state run enterprises (that employ millions of Chinese). Now that C19 has decimated external demand and caused an internal crisis, perhaps the Chinese miracle has ended.
@@azmodanpc
That is a very good point - I had not made that connection and I should have. We do a very bad job of studying and teaching the effects of the 1970’s stagflation crisis in current economics - we too often blame just the oil price shocks without focusing on the massive structural deficits governments were running and the crony-capitalist statist economy that existed (students today truly do not understand that the economy of the 1970s was so much more regulated and state sponsored than today in ways they could not imagine - companies like Über literally would have been illegal), so I think you draw a very compelling comparison of China today to the UK and US of the 1970’s with large state run enterprises and regulation and how it crippled these economies and caused massive inflation in order to support it. Very interesting.
@@cxa340 I think mainstream media is underestimating the total failure of the one child policy in China. The ramification there are staggering since there's no welfare, no safety net for the elderly (the young are educated since childhood to take care economically for their parents, always) and in 10 years time the working population (today's baby boomers) will start to retire. Nowadays many couples are finding it very difficult to raise children (even without the restriction of the one child policy lifted) and the replacement rate is trending ever lower. Coupled with a massive sprawl of state run enterprises and rising debt, the possibility that China will age before it gets rich is very high.
@@azmodanpc
Ok - I would have to see the population data on this, but interesting point and we can look to the Eurozone to see this has already played out in other industrial countries before with dramatically awful economic consequences for almost everyone. Italy being probably the best example where for 20 years they were below replacement level and the effect has been an increasingly expensive state thrusted upon a smaller and smaller workforce, and we can look at almost any other eurozone country and find the same effects (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, even Germany to some extent), where higher government costs and smaller populations of workers became the catalyst for production to move to cheaper economies like Poland and Hungary when regulatory barriers were lifted and opportunities became available.
If you hypothesis is correct, and the EU data would seem to suggest it is, then I would wager we will see industrial production move out of China and into other states like Vietnam, or more likely because of stability into Latin America where a strong dollar will make production in Brasil, Colombia, Chile, or El Salvador both cost effective and reliable. This could be hugely disastrous for China.
@@cxa340 Vietnam is already a main hub for low tech production outsourced from China. Bangladesh and other countries are already producing the textiles that China used to manufacture in the 90s and 2000s. Xi put all his weight on the tech industries and pushed for the IT local industries to counteract the western monopolies on tech. Regarding the similarities with the EU, it's true that many countries are paying through their noses for the staggering debt incurred and the reduction in active workforce but China has the added malus of limited immigration and a per capita income that's still very low. The fact that they have to import a big chunk of their foodstuff and are dependent on the dollar to buy just about everything is a drag too. I just don't see how they get out of the population and income trap. Their workforce is becoming very expensive too and I'm really interested in the real numbers for the exports (esp. since this christmas and thanksgiving will be less "rich").
Just saw the whole of Season 4-brilliant! Thanks for this info on Maggie. Cheers from Wyoming!🌹
the war with Argentina was so brutal, a bunch of 18 year olds died there. it’s weird to see as a Latin American how this was perceived by the English people.
Watching Season 4, Episode 3 - after the scene where Margaret gets her nails painted, you see a mouse Scurry across the screen! Look closely at the floor!
I saw that! I didn’t really understand it, though...
Yeah saw dat . I was surprised
It’s actually pretty common knowledge that Buckingham Palace has a mouse infestation. Although the palace denies it, many visitors have seen mice when they visited.
Damm, she good at telling stories
She should do the pervious seasons.
Gillian Anderson did a remarkable job as Margaret Thatcher, but I think she overdid the voice. The real Thatcher had a deeper tone and Gillian was too familiar with Meryl Streep's potrayal as they both speak in higher pitch. Tho they both share the calmness.
Every human being has unique voice so she did an amazing job with her voice
@@marijajovanovic29 I also find her expression kinda look uncomfortable while the real Thatcher looked fierce and quite classy
Also btw she started to sound like Voldemort in the suceeding episodes 😂
But she did nail her fierce looks whenever she smiles without her teeth but overall she did her best portraying a controversial Prime Minister of UK
@@juanchoresultay2704I totally agree
She was very close to her sister. There is a very interesting doc on letter exchanged by the two.
Her sister simply married a farmer and settled down. Funny how stark their lives were.
@@saswatrath609 Margaret had dated said farmer and then on separating he started dating her sister, with. everyone in agreement that it was a good thing.
I want a TV series based on thatcher alone
She was head of government not head of state! You would have thought they would have gotten that right!
I immediately caught that.
Do you guys like brown-haired lady who narrates? She seems annoying
@@DonnaChamberson The lady has a name and even says it and it's in the video description.
@@RaymondHng is it brown-hair??
@@DonnaChamberson You'll have to look at the box.
How do you do an entire show about the Queen and then go on to call Thatcher the head of state?
Head of government dude!!!
The Queen is Head of State. The Prime Minister is Head of Government.
Ha they have changed it now. As you were.
I dont agree with Thatcher on many of her policies, but she was a strong willed and determined woman, which ive got to admire
The host is wonderful and her outfits are always so chic ❤️
“Controversial” = exceedingly popular and successful and we hate it!
Gillian Anderson, Amazing👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
I always find it interesting when a self made politician that came from a low class treats the lower class when they get into power. Thatcher and her policies reminds me of Alexander Hamilton and his policies, which largely gave power to the rich and made them richer at the expense of the lower class, where he came from. Are they trying to prove themselves by hurting the poor and helping the rich?
I am not ripping on Thatcher and Hamilton, I’m just pointing out an observation.
Triggered because she didn't give working people hand outs. She worked her way to the top but you expect her to pander to people that cant help themself?
Britain in the 70s was on the slide into economic oblivion after years of socialism had created a lazy entitled population used to government hand outs and labour union dictatorship. She was hated because she was both a woman and a conservative, but she put down the foundation that made the UK the economic power it is today and made London the economic and financial centre of Europe.
@@cliffm6566 just like the treatment of black conservatives in the US atm.
Her Ideology is early 19th Century Liberalism practiced by Adam Smith and Edmund Burke
She was hated - until everyone found out she was on the team that invented Mr Whippy smooth ice cream... just saying.
And angel delight
And her critics used that fact against her, saying that Mr. Whippy was just like her policies. “Full of air and lacking substance.”
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive accurately so?
She’s still hated. She was a horrible, vile human being.
She saved Britain
God bless Margaret Thatcher. The woman who put the great back in Great Britain.
How would be Britain without Thatcher government? We usually criticize what was or what happened by comparing it to what we think it should have been. But "what we think it should have been" doesn't exist to be scrutinized. It is easy to claim a better hypothetical world.
Reality has its tough rules, no matter who we want to blame. Ignoring the rules of nature is always the most expensive path.
I live in a country where the government distributes a lot of money and keeps inefficient companies under its control. The inflation is high and, day by day, more people see no reason to work while they demand more public money (after all the prices are rising). But the prices also get higher for those who are diligently working and facing so many uncertainties. Is it fair?
Life is not a fairytale. Government can print money, but still someone has to sow the rice.
Put it this way, I'm from one of the northern towns who were destroyed when she took away people's only source of income. Whilst what you see looks great on paper, she did it without safety nets or retraining throngs of blue-collar working-class workers.
People worked, people were proud to work. Please do not make the mistake of harping on about the old adage of people not wanting to work because of free money.
@@lois7956 The lesson you should have learned is if a government can give something, then it can take it away. Sure they wanted to work. The problem is that all those towns were working on a house built on sand (i.e. other people's money controlled by a huge corporation called government). The whole point of Thatcher's policies is that the British Government had become one huge "safety net" about to fall on everyone. Your solution is basically replacing one safety net with another.
@@n.d.m.515 And look where it got us.
@@lois7956 where did it get us?
Oh, fuck you
Getting big Lucy Worsley vibes from this host ❤️
The definition of quitting: insert here
The opposite of that: Margaret Thatcher
Until she booted out by her party, and quit.
They should have included the Poll Riots in the show.
It good job nothing like that happens now [slowly looks at USA]
I want you to add English subtitles on videos.
She was incredible.
thats hilarious 🤣
They just skipped the " How she rose " part.
This video seems biased against her. Lots of talk about suffering and no discussion about her successes. Much of the statist policies of her predecessors had ossified the country and caused considerable economic strain. Why didn’t you actually cover this?
Britain was in desperate times, and Thatcher had to apply desperate measures. Britain is far better off now because of the Iron Lady, even if half the country will never admit it.
Or maybe she was a fucking monster in the likes of Reagan, Nixon, Trump, Boris, Bolsonaro so on and so forth.
Glad she’s dead. Evil witch.
@@ruanlima1523 Why was she a monster? And why is Boris?
@Firstname Lastname actually an obese monster.
@@ruanlima1523 Nah your just not a conservative just admit it those people are really not alike especially Boris he hasn’t done anything compatible to the rest
I really enjoy these videos!
Nice elaborate addition to the marvelous series 'The Crown'
if only we had puppets to demonstrate the complex social conflicts during this time
Nice reference
"Beneath The Crown".... that would be us.
Love Maggie, such a strong figure
Did anyone else notice that the character of Mrs. Thatcher on The Crown acted a whole lot like Shakespeare's Richard III?
Odd camera framing, kept getting distracted by a white shoe waggling around in the bottom right corner.
Maybe you have a foot fetish?
Golda Meir former PM of Israel was ahead of Margaret Thatcher and was elected for PM at 1969
One of the best former PM, a great woman, who found out the way to fight against Statism and Socialism and to win.
Thatcher sounds terrible. I’m young and American and all we learned about her in school was that she was the first female prime minister, and that she was like the British, female Ronald Reagan. This video and the crown didn’t paint a prettier picture. By the end of the season, what was most disturbing to me was the length of her reign and her refusal to adapt. Not sure if that’s totally accurate, but she was called the Iron Lady. That length of reign and that attitude reeks more like a despot. Also, using wars to hold onto power, glory, and imperialism makes my blood boil. I think it would’ve made sense if she served one regular term, and then was voted out for making the lives of many of her citizens worse, and for not understanding the mechanisms that keep the poor poor. Lastly, I’m guessing they overdid this in the show, but it sorta seems like she completely failed to recognize her obvious privilege (white, secure nuclear family, inspiring hard working father, her immediate family didn’t get disrupted by WW2, some natural smarts, no major physical maladies, and the fact that I doubt she could’ve done all she did today without some more cash. And our today is very much shaped by reagan and thatcher, unfortunately).
To me, Thatcher was the best Prime Minister the Uk ever had. What you were taught about Thatcher was right. She and Regan were very much alike. They were even friends. The fact that she was PM for about 11 years just goes to show that she was a popular PM, despite having waves of unpopularity. If the British people wanted her out, then the Tories (short for the Conservatives party) would have done so a lot quicker than wait 11 whole years to do it.
You don't know this about the Tories but, if they want to remove their leader, they'll do it no matter what. You only say she was a despot, despite not actually knowing a lot of her policies, I'm willing to bet. Thatcher had to bring the UK out of crippling debt due to a few reasons: one of them was partly to do with the financial aftermath of WW2, the other would be because of the Labour governments nationalising everything and giving more power to the Trade Unions. The power the Union had was so much that it caused the WInter of Discontent, that led Thatcher in the first place to win the 1979 General election, beating out James Callaghan (Labour PM at the time, your version of the Democrats).
Thatcher curbing the Union's power was because of the public hating them so much. If anything, the Winter of discontent harmed the Uk more than Thatcher did. She wasn't a despot or despot adjacent. If she was, then the show would have been ousted immediately. In the UK, we have measures in place to remove PMs. It's called a "no-confidence motion", Basically, if the House of Commons loses confidence in the government, then the PM must call a general election so that a new government can be formed. I'm gonna assume you don't know the reason why the UK went to war with the Falklands. Long story short, Argentia invaded British land (The Falkland Islands), the UK responded.
If someone just decided to one day try and take over a state, I doubt anyone in America would be too thrilled about that. Thatcher also wants an imperialist. She actually did a lot to help the poor, like her housing policy: she basically allowed for families to buy the council houses they were renting. This policy helped a lot of people get on the property ladder, and help them be more successful. Thatcher was also fine with having poor people and a divided society economically, so long as the standards, and what you get even when you're poor are better than what it could've been if you were poor in the 1950s. this is something I personally agree with.
Finally, I think you overestimate Thatcher's situation. For all intents and purpose, she wasn't supposed to be PM. she wasn't even supposed to be the leader of the Tories/ leader of the opposition (basically a government in waiting for if the real government loses an election/ the current PM resigns to force an election. In the instance of the latter, the leader of the opposition would have 14 days to make a new government). when she was voted party leader, most of the party didn't like the fact that a woman was in charge of them. She also quite clearly worked hard to get where she got to. her father was also a greengrocer, which was not a high paying job.
I've left a lot of information out and condemned what I did write about, but hopefully, this was informative.
We probably have different ideas to how the Uk and the USA should be run, since you don't like Thacher or Regan, and I love them both,
"The Crown" is a work of fiction based loosely on real events and people. Nearly all the events and people depicted are done so crudely and exaggerated for dramatic effect. This little puff piece is here to entice you to watch the series, so won't contradict it greatly.
@@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs. yeah, I get that. OP was talking about their grievances with Thatcher as a whole though.
We want subtitles!!!
Listo. Qué hagan la serie de Margaret, parece que fascinó a todos!
Ya esta la película con The Iron Lady
@@mariovasquez7672 ya lo sé, y es del mismo productor de esta serie. Pero si dan tanta manija, que hagan una serie, porque le dieron más manija que a Lady Di.
Video: First female head of **government**
Comments: Well actually, the queen is the head of state, not the PM.
What???
There is a difference between head of government and head of state
@@ASB-rw9qm The Queen is head of state, Thatcher was head of government which is literally what she said in the video.....
Early version of this video she said head of state hence all the comments about it. Been changed now.
@@adamwilson8486 Oh, didn't realize you could edit videos. I was thinking half the commentors were haivng a collective stroke or something
@@maxblomqvist4794 same! This is the first time I've seen someone edit a video. That I know of.
Weird how much her dad looks like dennis. 👀🤔🤣
Denis treated her as a father to daughter
Fact is, Britain wouldn't be a world power if Thatcher hadn't existed.
Do I agree with all her actions? Surely not!
Am I happy with her legacy, regardless? Yes, I am!
Britain was a world power for hundreds of years before she turned up?
@@williamcarter3933 By the 1970's, it was decrepit and decaying.
Somehow I was rooting for Margaret Thatcher, as the queen and her family looked like bullies, between the two ladies, clearly Margaret seemed stronger
Why were they bullies? The only bully behavior was making fun of her for her dress but honestly, how silly can you be to go hunting in a blue dress with high heels?
@@phoebeel honestly, do you actually think that really happened?? The Prime Minister is as well briefed as the Queen in matters of protocol. She would have been entirely aware of the requirement for outdoor country clothes and the routines of the Royal household. 'The Crown' is a dramatisation, you are not expected to think it's a documentary!
@@lisapritchard5078 well, you are not clearly saying in your comment if you're referring to the show or reality. since this whole video is about the show, I was assuming you meant what happened in the show.
I almost wanna photo shop the cover of Mean Girls with Thatcher as Lindsey Lohan and Elizabeth, Margaret, and Anne as the Plastics lol
I think a lot of her ideas were decent and came from a good place but her execution was dreadful and resulted in a lot of awful side effects. It’s a shame because she could have been amazing and exactly what we need nowadays, someone strong and decisive. But just not with the mass unemployment and the attempt to privatize the NHS among may other things.
Blair started privatisation of the NHS.
This video is against Thatcher because she's hard worker, intelligent and strong on top of that she's a Christian and conservative.
Interesting to see how a war that cost hundreds their lives can be someone else’s saving grace
I believe that government should be run just as Sir Humphrey said, "it's better to be heartless than mindless"
Controversial? You mean the greatest?
6:15 Scargill was so right. I say this as a right leaning populist who probably would’ve voted for Thatcher had I been around at that time.
Keeps confusing head of state with head of government, pretty big thing to overlook since the distinction is such a big part of the show...
True!! They’ve corrected this video now though.
No one is ever "Self Made".
Yep, the myth of so called conservatives that are spoon fed Randism (what's mine is mine and the rest can eff off) is appalling. Your privilege and existence is based in great part on enormous public investment and regulation. But then again most of those politicians are sheltered snobs that conned their way into power.
False and cringe
I have enjoyed this series so far for the relatively accurate portrayal of historical events, with just the right amount of drama thrown in. Sadly, the Netflix folks truly hate Thatcher and all that she stood for. She was sharp as a tack in the 1980s and truly turned around the nation. They portrayed Thatcher as a doddering old fool. She, Reagan, and the Pope helped bring down the Iron Curtain and change the world for the better. It was sad to see blatant leftist politics lead to such a shrill and inaccurate portrayal of one of the most important PMs UK has ever had. ( Churchill was the greatest, I know). I was disappointed that Netflix could not have more respect for accuracy.
My takeaway from all these comments, and I am included in this, is that Thatcher remains loved by many people against the left's constant insistence that nobody likes her.
and she ran not to be liked but to do a job, which no man in the UK at that time wanted to do!
Gillian Anderson became Thatcher! Emmy award is coming!
The Chicago Boys tried their economic ideas in Chile and Argentina in the 1970s. Later, Thatcher and the USA president carried on in the UK and USA.
No, don’t fast-forward from college student to Prime Minister! That’s the most important part of her career!
Anita Rani presents this brilliantly!
would anyone know where there lovely lamp can be seem for sale
From a German point of view, Thatcherism was logical, but without foresight and therefore nothing to copy. It is logical to close down unprofitable industries in order to say "we have no inefficient industries". But you can destroy the economy of an entire region. You create regional mass unemployment. You create social dynamite. Moreover, by closing down an industry you lose know-how that will never come back. Back then: hatred, protests. Today: continuous unemployment in the areas affected by Thatcherism and Great Britain is considered in Germany as a country where nothing but a little scrap metal is produced - kept alive only by its banking sector.
There's such a thing as creative destruction. Look it up.
We are a service-based economy and the vast majority of our companies are SMEs, so there's actually a lot more than just the banking sector fuelling our economy.
@@davidblackwood106: Sorry, I was inaccurate:
"Kept alive only by its banking and service sector where mainly people with a higher education find useful jobs while excluding people with intermediate or lower education and which are mainly present in large urban areas not in areas where jobs are really needed and which are extremely vulnerable to global recessions".
Did you get the main problem of your country NOW?
@@julianosvonskingrad7009 That's actually entirely inaccurate and misinformed considering the fact that this pandemic has been terrible for urban areas and in many ways benefited other parts of the country. Also, why do so many Europeans love to hate on the UK? Go worry about yourselves for a change.
@@davidblackwood106: I was not talking about pandemics. At least I can not see where I did that. Can you show me? Probably me and my university degree in economics are just not as well informed as you are.
Who said something about hate? Can you show me where the discussion changed its topic?
We do worry a lot about our problems. But they are not even as big as Great Britain's problems.
This proves that people who enjoy chemistry are not to be trusted
So.....y’all still hate Thatcher or she did a good job in retrospect?
Love you, Maggie. One of the best PM
Putting people out of work and starving them to death doesn’t deserve an applause!
So for 10 years she had a career in pissing people off. I'm sorry but i respect that.
She wasn't controversial. She was phenomenal. Dear BBC inspired woke anchors, get your narrative Unbiased!
What a shallow review. Thatcher was much much more.
I miss a lot of her controversial politicus, like poll tax, clause 28. Also when she became the face of the Tories in 1975. And her near escape of a terrorist attack in Brighton in 1984.
Man or women those policies sound terrible.
You need to understand how bad the British economy was in 1979 - imagine having inflation rates upwards of 20% so that buying a house, car, or major appliance is expensive simply because of the interest rate on your credit, imagine whole entire industries protesting and refusing to work like coal miners and garbage collectors yet you as a taxpayer keep having to pay more and more in taxes for less services, and imagine your children having no chance of finding a job because there is no economic growth within the country because industry is strangled. By 1979 the British economy had become an economy of selected winners and a lot of losers - anyone who was not politically collected and worked in a public entity was a loser in this game and expected to pay more and receive less while public sector employees wielded huge political influence and were the winners able to demand huge parts of the British budget to pay for their existence.
Thatcherism was more about restoring a sense of justice and fair play than anything and ending the politics corruption of the Heath government that saw ordinary working people being destroyed by political mismanagement and corruption.
Someone clearly doesn’t know that Liverpool is in the north west.
If it hadn't been for the war with Argentina, Thatcher would've fallen right away. I still don't understand what Britain was doing in such remote territory, that clearly belonged to Argentina.
Youve answered yourself
Please explain how it “clearly belonged to Argentina” when it had been British territory for over 100 years at that point and was and still is almost entirely populated by people of British descent?
@@hunnajahdan4885 In 1820, Argentina and Britain signed the Argentine possession of the islands.
@@jorgecuna8533 that literally never happened, in 1820 a captain claimed the islands for Argentina, 55 years AFTER Britain claimed them. And then in 1833 Britain reestablished control of the islands.
In a vote, there were only 3 people on the island who want to join Argentina
If it weren't for general Galtieri she wouldn't have been famous.
Do you really think that?
There is no debate, the UK was in collapse after years of socialist rule under both conservatives and labour since ww2 ended and thatcher fixed all that. It was a necessary pain for the nation to suffer and thrive in the decades that followed.