KTM Freeride Electric Dirt Bike review (KTM's secret side project)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- #motocross #electric #dirtbike #ktm
The 2023 KTM Freeride EXC electric dirt bike is very unique. It was first produced way back in 2012, but was only shipped to the U.S. in limited quantities and it was never really promoted. This is not a motocross bike, not a trials bike and not an Enduro bike, it's a 'Freeride' and it was designed to open new opportunities for riding locations where sound can be an issue. It's been used by KTM to learn about, test and develop electric bikes and now, it's finally getting some attention from KTM.
KTM recently announced their at their North American Dealer Summit: "By the middle of this decade, the electric lineup will feature more than 20 electric offroad motorcycles from all brands, ranging from beginner to competition-level models, aimed at young talents who are taking the future of motorsports to the next level.” With this in mind, we were intrigued to ride the KTM E-bike that has secretly been around for over 10 years now.
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I hadn't raced or ridden in 35 years. These bikes were perfect for getting back in the dirt. The adjustable power was also perfect. They don't stall in turns which was helpful. One thing I really liked about the KTM was the size, I think it is about 7/8 of a regular bike.
The odd things for me: It's not a 500 2t; the first 5 minutes you keep checking which tire is flat as you can hear the tire noise; there isn't a clutch; the rear brake where the clutch would be is startling at first; it's not a 500 2t, doesn't have that premix smell, and doesn't go broaaap.
Electric is definitely the way to go for the 50 and 60 classes. With a big enough back yard you will be good to go without pissing off the neighbours. ICE dirt bikes will be around for a long time, but electrics will eventually be the future. People who are hostile to them before even trying one are just clueless.
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The braking situation (no foot brake) is actually the same thing as always for anyone who has ever ridden BMX or any pedal bike. It also encourages you to keep your feet on the pegs and stand up. I think it's a plus. I'm excited about the electric bike future...even though it does simplify things (for the high end racing perspective - no clutch, no gear shifts, no engine inertia). I'm a 2-stroke guy, but man! I really want a full on racer (e.g., Stark Varg). Looking forward to seeing what KTM can do for MXers.
As long as you don't need more than 45mph, these things are pretty capable. I have about 100 videos abusing one.
They're crazy fun if you can fight off the "No Braap, No fun!" crowd.
It's like the worlds best pitbike. You'll get 25-40min riding it hard. Avg trail ride more like 2 hours.
Just charge the battery off the clothes dryer. It's not rocket surgery 😉
Meh I'd rather have a fully modded Surron (or two) for that price.
@@allanshpeley4284 a sur ron is a glorified e-mtb
@@shmokeythefatcat How so? A modified Surron can be just as capable as a 250 cc dirt bike.
@@allanshpeley4284 I have both now, i can tell you they are both totally different. One is a motocross the other is a mountain bike... Not the same both are fun tho
@@philmoiz I have a dirt bike and a Surron on the way so I can't comment on the Surron yet. But I don't see why someone would prefer a dirt bike over a modded Surron aside from range and top end speed. And maybe durability if you're smashing huge jumps.
I have two Freeride e’s and they’re a blast. 25 ish hp but the torque of a 450sx from zero rpm. Easy to hot swap batteries for a full day of riding. I also have an Alta MXR which has 50 hp but 147 ft lbs of torque. Definitely faster than 450s out there. The Stark Varg is the best selling e MX bike with 15K ordered so far and climbing every day. No current ice MX bike can even approach that sales volume. Spend some time on UA-cam and watch the reviews. From magazine test riders, to pros to amateurs, they all love the bike and e bikes in general.
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got mine used for 6k. As a beginner the battery holds up longer on the cross track than i do^^
I think it’s awesome they are developing this sort of tech. 25-40mins and a lack of power is not good enough to be worth buying now. But if they continue advancing the technology this might be something great in 5years.
I don't think you ride hard enough if you dont need a break after 25 minutes ;)
I race one on of these bikes every weekend on the main and vet track at Glen Helen. Way more capable than these guys are claiming. Of course I way 135 and these guy weigh more like 160+lbs 🎉
Interesting, please elaborate.
Great review! I"ve always liked this bike, but the price was too high considering its abilities and compared to competition. The Sur-Ron Ultra Bee really killed this.
This summer these were $7999 at many shops across the USA. I've seen some on sale today at $5999! Yes, 6k. KTM must certainly be getting ready to release a whole new model in this category.
40 minute range…So KTM is trying to sell an electric woods bike that you might be able to get a 20 mile ride out of for 11k SMH. I’m not a KTM hater, I ride a 300 xcw, but this has way too many cons. I get why they’re not trying to move a bunch of units.
I wonder if it would still get 20 miles in slower, more technical terrain where that would be a good couple hours of riding or more.
For example, if it could complete a loop around the 5 Miles of Hell, starting and ending at the parking area (a 19.5 mile loop). That would be a great youtube vid.
I 100% agree with ya.. What bike are they similar to when it comes to power..
I have a 22 Husqvarna FE501 that I've done a few mods to. If they would get power out of an electric similar to my 501 and 4x times the battery life I'd buy one.... Can we all ban together and report these scam comments that seem to be everywhere in the dirtbike content for some reason ?
Sorry I commented before they said that it's 24hp 245pounds.. So it's slower power to weight than an 85....
Seen a guy won a harescramble on one. He got the holeshot easy on grass and never looked back.
@@jpesicka999 Different kind of power I suppose.. I'd like to try any of the electric bikes. Some drag racing footage would be interesting..
I'm getting this one day!
Glad to hear ktm is making more electric bikes
I bought the SX-E5 for my son and it turns out the bike so good the whole family rides it all over the place
I have a Varg reservation but I’m interested to see what ktm brings to the table
How fast does the bike go? I've never ridden a full electric dirt bike but we have a electric trail bicycle we keep at the lake that tops out around 30mph and it's so much fun to ride. Our lake house is in a gated neighborhood so i ride it all over the place. I'm interested in getting a full electric dirt bike for some of the trails in this area do you recommend it? I wouldn't buy it to replace a gas dirt bike but just something fun to whip around on.
I got one. I love it. Hit ramps with it at wyvern and rah ville
I wish you would've ridden it on the track too - I know its not where its designed to be, but still curious how it would be
Why & How is the video quality so good in standard 720p?
Give these 3-4 years of development and they’ll smoke a 450.
Stark Varg will be decent but expensive and low range.
That’s racist and gay
@Nina Bouska bs. I’m sticking with gas.
JI, Sounds like a bunch of people who don’t know anything about anything got triggered by your comment 🤣
Stark Varg
Great video. I was hoping you did an MX test with the Freeride (and other bikes not ideal for MX). Is it possible to ride MX, the bike will break in 2, or just a less-than-ideal ride in a competitive race? For example, a Goldwing CAN ride an MX track, but is a Freeride at least fast enough to keep up with the crowd and not be a safety hazard? A range test would also be nice, comparing the range with a dirt-road, trail, and track time. I get this point this is just a fun bike.
this what im scared of bikes becoming electric
Scared? It's exciting. Fear cancer, an asteroid hitting us, nuclear war.... :)
i CAN NOT WAIT until they make a roughly 25-35 horsepower electric bike, that weighs under 300 pounds, and has a full blown motocross suspension! i will IMMEDIATELY buy one when any brand produces such a bike. cant wait to ride motocross even at night on private tracks where the neighbors can no longer bitch and moan about sound!
Stark Varg
80HP lol
thats why surrons are taking over the electric industry
with double the range and less than half the price and 3 times the after market support…. its actually pretty insane
Surron is a bicycle not a motorcycle.
@@Roadified Lmao 😂 right a bicycle with no pedals just pegs💀
@@Roadified its an Emoto bud, not a bicycle. come bring your Bike and race me on my 72v Surron and lets see what happens
@@abi4510 I am sure it is fun and stuff and hence you have this attachment to say it is motorcycle. Try real electric motorcycle, like Zero, and you will understand.
Suron has bicycle wheels, bicycle suspension, bicycle brakes, it has no legal lights, indicators, nor it can be registered as a motorcycle (not speaking about U.S., you can probably register your cat as a motorcycle). It cannon go on the highway, it cannot carry a passenger etc. etc.
@@Roadified It doesn't have bicycle wheels. Though it should. For the average rider, standard dirt bikes are way over engineered.
Id buy it for 3k as a toy to ride on the streets here while people sleep or in the nearby forest.
I wish scientists would find a good way to make cheap synthetic gasoline in the future.....there is already synthetic diesel, but no good alternatives for gasoline. Maybe one day.
The Germans invented synthetic gasoline before WW2 and more than 92 percent of Germany's aviation gasoline and half its total petroleum during WW2 had come from synthetic fuel plants. The problem is that it's very costly to produce and would cost 20-30 dollars per gallon. E85 ethanol made from corn is a good alternative to gasoline but again costs more money than regular gas.
@@SkylarRace but ethanol engines produce less power than gasoline engines right?
@J.P Slaym0 those engines tend to be heavier and produce less power than gasoline.
The Sur Ron X may have the performance and price you're looking for.
@@dr.x4050 how much is it?
Is this bike similar to a 125 or a 250 in size??
I like KTM 👍 they are fast
So where you do you charge it at OHV areas. Seems like you could only use it in your backyard ( if you own a lot of land which few people do ).
every generator has a 220 setting for off grid charging 🤙🏽💪🏽
The free ride has been around for a bit. Wonder if KTM has a new e-bike that will release before the first Stark Varg ships?
With 24hp I might be able to actually ride it WOT and feel like Chase Sexton.... Probably not...maybe on the 15hp setting I could tho, and for the 30 minutes that the battery lasted, I'd really feel like I was someone special...until a 5 year old on a Cobra blows my doors off. lol
Stark Varg ftw
2 Stroke for life !
Even though this bike is really expensive, it's appealing to me because it doesn't have a header pipe that glows red when you ride slow due to the emissions restrictions that were placed on it by California. I had some leaves get caught on the header pipe of my KLX 230R and I was doing some first gear slow type trails riding and those leaves caught fire. I demonstrate this on my UA-cam channel where I reviewed the bike. I'm definitely looking to replace it with an e-bike that won't catch fire when I ride on terrain that has dry crispy leaves but that fee to join the e-bike party is pretty steep..
its half the price of a 250F motocross bike with shipping
@@surroncountry which bike?
@@matkatgoproarchive surrons
@@matkatgoproarchive literally 1/5th of the performance of a 250F for half the price. Hell of a deal!
Won't catch stuff on fire though.
@@matkatgoproarchive or get a used 250F with 5x the performance and durability for the same price.
Surron is fun, but it's not a motorcycle.
How much does this thing weigh? 110kg? 24hp sounds pretty damn fast... Maybe I'm getting old.
How many hours to rebuild the top end? Imagine knowing your bike is always ready to go!
my 2c's. I think right lever should be rear brake.
Sounds like a good way to increase profit margins.
This guy taught us at school
Thanks!
Can't wait till these wax the 4 strokes
No one is going to pay that kind of money when they could get a 250 or 450 for that price.
It was "secret" maybe 8-10 years ago.
The old farts on the porch watching the dirt bike go by. One says to the other, must be the hearing aids battery’s dead cause that things so quiet!
Really good video
12 fricken grand for a fricken dirtbike outfitted with a bunch of cheapo components powered by a recycled Kirby vacuum cleaner motor that has to be plugged into the dryer outlet in your house in order to get any use out of it! WTF are these manufacturers thinking?
And, is this REALLY the direction dirt bikes and motocross are going??? The direction of WOKE?!?
Like the saying goes...
Go WOKE, Go broke!
You think they are getting some sort of "Green Planet" kick backs from somewhere? Because this thing at that price has nothing going for it. Drive 2 and half hours to the trails and ride for 40 minutes. 245 lbs? what!!
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I don't know but they sure gotta be spending some serious money on R&D, and you know they ain't spending that R&D money for no "no return on their investment."
@@rosone51178 the idea is you don't have to ride 2.5hrs to the trails.
90min drive to get to a riding spot to unload my 250f. Rode it 12 hours in the same timeframe I was able to ride 55 hours on the Freeride... because you can ride wherever the F you want!
You're missing the whole point of the bike. Most states you can street legal it for even more riding access near home. I ride wheelies in the neighborhood at midnight and not even wake the neighbors. Watch how fast that gets the cops to you on a gas bike, not to mention your neighbors hating.
@@rosone51178 and it's more like 2.5 hours in trails. 40mins is motocross-esque time. It's about the same as 1.2 gals of gas on a carb bike.
@@JohnHowerton137 This is what the haters can't seem to grasp for some reason. Did you catch the guy who has the better idea of buying land in Mexico? 😆 Sure... that's cheaper and more practical than wiring up a 240v outlet.
I live in a smallish city and the approved riding spots are: 30 minutes to a MX track (which has limited membership), 1.5 hrs, 2.0 hrs, 2.5 hrs for trail riding. Etc. Or have a stealth bike and figure it out locally. Massive game-changer for dedicated riders who live in civilization and don't want to wait for the weekend. My training hours are way, way up thanks to e-motos and a quality light set-up.
The prices are waaay to high though
lmao he really said that: map 1 for girlfriend or wife, bruh
What is the $ cost of another battery?
4500ish
Californians will only have this to ride soon.
Yep, soy and gender neutral. 🤣🤣🤣
And they won't have the electricity to charge them with the blackouts
Who doesn't have a 220 plug in garage or barn for a welder?
needs a rear foot brake cant believe KTM not offering that as an option
bc all experienced riders will end up grabbing a handful of clutch only to fly over the handle bars
clutch is left hand. that would be the rear brake lever. it wouldn't flip you. more to the point though, most kids learn to ride a bicycle with hand brakes. It's no different. I can see it being a major adjustment to ppl who never rode a bmx or mountain bike. but honestly, since there are no gears to shift or RPMs to manage, the absence of a clutch isn't an issue. iunno. I never had a problem swapping from my dirt bikes to my BMX and mountain bikes. I don't think that's an issue.
@@daneg nah it already happen to me
my reaction time I grabbed the lever not thinking and I went over the bars
Did you get a video 😂
@@sherhysirvine14 I wished it was buddy's E-XC I could of got my first viral vid 🤣
How would you have gone over the bars if it is the rear brake that you grabbed? On this bike, its the rear brake in place of the clutch
Under powered, overweight, overpriced, and poor changing design. Yeah no.
Have you ridden one?
WHY? IT BURNS THE SAME AMOUNT OF FOSSILS AS OTHER BIKES! AND IT LEAVES DEAD BATTERIES BEHIND?
Electricity is more efficient than combustion.
@@easternyellowjacket276 YOUR STATEMENT MAKES NO SENSE! WHENN TRANSFERING THE ENERGY CREATED BY BURNING FOSSILS (NUCLEAR) INTO A ACID FILLED BATTERY THEN TRANSFERING THAT ENERGY TO PULL YOU AROUND? THE BATTERIES ARE JUST STORAGE DEVICES THEY DON'T CREATE ENERGY! THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK ! BEST OF LUCK
@@easternyellowjacket276 Yes, even if the power plant uses pure dino fuel.
@@lizzydog5728 What energy is used to refine crude oil into gas?
@@dr.x4050 yep. Many people forget the amount of energy needed to refine crude oil into gas. And then when gas is combusted it is very inefficient.
With just 1 hour on a charge makes this nothing but a toy.
Swappable batteries is what I want. Pull the tired one out and throw it on the charger and put a fresh one in. Just like my RC car.
Young boy brought me here.
How much for a second battery? This is what BSW and Bentilli should be making, electric dual-sport.
They say the bike MSRP is $11099 and PowerPack MSRP $3900. A little pricey to buy a bike and a spare battery but they are niche.
Dirt bike ⚡️⚡️⚡️=no soul
agreed
I understand why seemingly EVERY dirtbike review by people in So. Cal ends up at Glen Helen...its close and convenient. But come on guys...quit being lazy and cheap. Quit reviewing woods bikes or even cross country bikes on the Glen Helen track. Schedule...spend the extra $, and drive to the woods. You dont see guys reviewing 450 sx bikes on tight gnarly singletrack. Put the bike in the environment when 90% of us will ride them.
Not gonna beat an 85. Ok I’m out…
An 85 is a motocross bike, and the freeride is an enduro/trail bike, so yes, of course, an 85 will beat the freeride.
Hi I’m a homosexual male looking for a bike.
Ohh the KTM electric thingy looks nice.
Why are you assuming your own gender. You need a purple haired gender obscured kindergarten teacher for that…um, duh.
glad im not the only one who considers this "gay"
"Hi, i voted Joe Biden, im looking for a dirt bike. Ohh the GAYTM Electric Bike looks nice."
@@Getman43 😂💥
@@TheRealRenn love your name lmao
It’s an Electric 85 that’s way over priced and is such a low range
12k, need an extra battery, need an extra 220 outlet, runs for 40 minutes. And this gives the EPA a perfect excuse to ban gas motorcycles. Tell me again why we want this? Oh and it sounds like crap.
Electric engine throttle Response will never Ever match A gas engine's Throttle response Not to mention That electric bike only has one Gear
3 modes, and yes, it's not going to beat a gas bike unless they don't know what they're doing or if it's a 50 or a 65.
"Stark Varg" is already proving this way wrong. I love gas but now that I own an electric, I see why it's the future in motorcross.
Why when i can ride all day cheaper on a real bike and a tank of gas... not 30 min and have to let it charge again
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Any review of an electric motorcycle should tell us the range in the first minute.
Range is the reason why no one will buy these. Too bad it is so heavy, too.
The Freeride actually feels like a 125 when you’re riding. The weight is very deceptive and you really only feel it when you put it on a center stand. Swappable batteries makes riding all day possible with a given area/range. It’s not for everyone but it works for a lot of folks.
I’m a huge fan of e-bikes but the start up on this thing is soooo dumb.
That’s a hard pass.
Finally the perfect motorcycle for the sheep. Baa! Lithium bah!
Personally I think the sheep are the people that are in denial. Other than range issues, that will eventually be fully resolved, these electric bikes are superior in just about every way.
@@easternyellowjacket276 Range, Slow, pig heavy weight, short life cycles, expensive, no clean renewable energy source, or any 120 or 240vac receptacles at any singletrack/ blm/ohv land I have scene. Nobody is using these powerwheels in the real world. These are limited to kids and adults who ride the suburb streets, sidewalks and the local hard packed bmx tracks at a grandma's pace. Time to address the 750 watt per HP Elephant in the powerwheel room. How many watts do you believe the powerwheel batteries will produce over a 5 or 10 seconds? I will give you a hint, 5hp-10hp. Yes thats right, Five to Ten HP is all that P.O.Goverment bike will produce over time. Electric vechicle hp ratings are always for a second, not Sustained HP. This is typically of un certified HP ratings for advertising.
*Open Challenge for a $10k 2022 Yamaha, any Ebike owner that bests my little 22 yz250fx wins it. One trip around the blm land here in Kremmling Colorado should do it. I get to make a yt video of it is all I ask.*
Did you end up having to give your bike over to a Stak Varg owner lol..
@@rt5arge Nobody will take me up on the challenge. One guy was going to, but backed out due to winter conditions up here.
This is a toy, not a bike, and it s too expensive for a toy. If it was around 7000€ (not 13000...) i would have already bought it
Whack to the fullest extent of the law!
.....nah. no way.
where is the fun in this?
Looks sad and boring
Just say no to electric bikes....
I'm getting one. Can't wait.
Why? The performance potential is definitely there. Plus this is just a play / trial bike
Yep , If man were meant to Fly Syndrome
Except once the battery tech catches up, they’ll dominate.
Also opens up a lot more riding areas. Noise has shut down so many good places.
Naw bro. Electric bikes are dope bc cops don’t pull you over 🙌 been riding my 72v surron daily for a few months and the only time a cop stopped me was to ask me what the bike was
Looks slow
No thanks, if it don't take gas it sucks as#
If you need 220 it’s junk
A stock Surron beats this any day
You guys are goobers. First question on every persons mind... Duh... Erh... Time?...
Wasted so much time watching you expel hot air...
A surron is cheaper and faster
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16k views and 200 likes says everything there is to know about this Embarrassing electric dirtbike video.
As it turns out…this is one of the most watched MXA videos based on release date. E bikes are becoming available around the world and the Stark Varg is the most sold dirt bike of all current bikes.
@@jmos96 Only 400 people have hit like. A little girl crying over a cat is good for a few hundred thousand for comparison. The only ones grabbing electric junk are after tax cattle funds or tax breaks.
@@MiddlePark, feel free to look at MXA’s stats. These are great stats for MXA. MX is shrinking overall and has been for quite sometime.
Electric sucks!