I love this! I’ve dealt with the same things as y’all and it warms my heart that you’re helping people find peace, no matter where they are on their journey 😊
Hearing this guy talk about his experience makes me laugh because it’s the exact same thing as me it’s like a “holy shit I’m genuinely not alone”😭 even knowing that makes me feel so much better
The brain forg and vision are my worst symptoms. Thank you so much for this i have had it for 2 years now and it really stems from my childhood and chronic anxiety. But i know it is lying to me and i am here and very much real.
Definitely, also: 1. Use less screens 2. Sleep more 3. Touch grass (do things with friends and family, externalize your thoughts and focus on the present 4. Try not to take any or too many drugs like caffeine or alcohol, strict weed prohibition of course 5. Accept (I 100% agree on that one) 6. Go to a doctor, do a full check and fully believe him (I 100% agree on that one)
DIZZINESS is the fucking worst thing. My DPDR started in 2007 and it's slowly gone down to maybe 20%, but recently it's been showing up again and it fucking sucks. I have to dial down my stress, get better sleep and do good to myself. Thanks for sharing your story man. It really helps me not feel alone.
Really appreciated the sharing of Louis and he said he was open to supporting people. one on one. Is there an email for contacting him? Id love to talk with him about his fairh journey especially and getting over the anxiety dpdr. Thanks 🎉
I don’t understand, him and many other people claim it’s based off stress and anxiety yet I experience 0 anxiety or ANYTHING. No adrenaline,no fear, no stress..emotions wtf 😔
It may be because of some unrecognised trauma your body went on shut down mode..my sister had this ..she felt dpdr but without the feelings of anxiety and discomfort in the body... it's different for different people. But the want is the same. To get out of the dpdr.
He is great :) Here im from childhood trauma i have severe health anxiety. I keep going to doctors or thinking im dying. I wonder if Luiz will be able to help.?
Same exact experience happened to me on shrooms, I also heard that voice telling me “God is not real” “there is no God”. This just threw me into a deep depression and anxiety specially because I’ve believed in him my whole life and it’s my safe place, and hearing that not coming form a person or a human voice was crazy and since then I’ve been stuck in DPDR. Is there any way I could get in contact with Luis, it would help me a lot
hey dude, i haven’t done shrooms but i cant imagine how terrifying that would be to hear. However, id suggest looking up stories of nde or near death experiences. People report a loving figure which honestly, I have no clue whether itd be god or not but it helped me a bit hearing their stories.
Hi Luis, thank you so much for sharing your story! I've had DPDR since I was 17, and i'm about to turn 19. I've been feeling very hopeless recently because I'll find a new method that work really well for a few days and then it goes back to the way it was. Do you have any tips for persistance? I think I really struggle with that, but I really resonated with you saying just to give up. I don't think i've done that yet but I will now.
Hey!! Thanks for the question. The goal is to simply not try new methods but accept everything for what it is. Not needing answers is part of letting go. Whenever a thought comes in that causes a physical symptom the goal is to label it as anxiety and refocus on what’s in front of you. Do this enough times you start to notice the symptoms fade more and more. We are teaching ourselves that we do not need an answer to these fears but that we are okay with whatever comes and that alone removes a massive part of the tension that we build within ourselves.
@@Zamoxithanks heaps for sharing your story! I’ve had DPDR for a very very long time, and it’s so hard for me not to fear it. I socialise, go to gym, work etc and only watch anything on it once a month if that. So I haven’t allowed it to control my life but I always feel really insecure socially when it’s there and want it to go. How did you socialise and go to work when feeling so trippy practicing acceptance? And did you also meditate, do somatic therapy etc too? And did you have one on one therapy as well and if so for how long? Or do courses? I know Robin is an incredible therapist with great courses.
@@arianabliss9043 great question ariana, I simply stopped giving into the actual research of it even if it was the smallest amount. In your case youre doing it once a month. I challenge you to not even do that. I did try therapy for a very long time but i realized i always felt worst after the sessions. I learned that I was keeping my past traumas alive. I decided it was time to just let it all go in general. Not to question anything from my past. Slowly over time this worked for me. I started reframing my anxious thoughts as just that. Anxiety.. and I got to the point that the existential thoughts just felt like a complete waste of time.
@@Zamoxi- this video was so so helpful for me. Thank you for being so open! I’ve had insomnia for years but I’m realizing it is more about existential anxiety- at night there is no one to distract me from my negative/ scary thought patterns. I also found that traditional therapy exacerbated things because it encourages thinking. Did you work with anyone or any resources to get better? Do you work wait people? Would be great to have a person/ resource to work through this with!
@@Zamoxi thanks so much for sharing. Definitely worth considering your challenge, I think I keep one foot in the door in case some new treatment or medication or technique that helps but you are right it’s just installing messages of unsafety in the body.
The video is great and made me feel some hope, and I want to follow this advice, but I just can't bring myself to trust. Could one of you please give some help? I know Luis said that you're not special and everybody has a lot of the same thoughts, but I didn't hear anybody ever talking about mine. One of my biggest thoughts right now is that life is so unfair, therefore I don't see any reason to live. I start thinking things like: why would I believe life is good when for so many people it's horrible? there's people dying all the time, we lose our loved ones. Not to mention that in the past we used to have slaves, people would just be born and... just be slaves and die? why would I enjoy the things I want to enjoy? I am not religious and I can't get over the fact that if I was born in another country/time I could have been a slave, or even died very young. What god would let that happen? Worst of all, I feel like DPDR might be giving me a perspective I wouldn't otherwise have, and that I would otherwise ignore. Sure I am not scared of these things when I have moments of clarity but I fear it might be because I simply can't see how bad things actually are. I recognize in a way my thoughts can sound silly but they feel scary to me
Another thing I wanna add is, if having DPDR recovery means I could or not recover, and in the end, I do end up recovering and it's just an illness, then what about all the other people that can't recover and suffer so much? sure it can be a gift, but someone that has dpdr and then just dies randomly? I wouldn't say that's a gift for them. And one more thing about god, I can not bring myself to trust there is one also because us humans talk about him like he's in the human form, therefore I conclude it's just our minds creating this because we are desperate
Hey, im 22 years 24/7 with no breaks with DPDR. How do you feal with going far from home? Im from the U.K and ment to be travelling to France for a few days with my children, ive missed out on a holiday last year because of my DPDR and missed memories with my children so i have to go on this one, but my DPDR is just so bad and constant and gets even worse at night. Any suggestions as to what i can do when going to another country? Thanks for your help xxx
I feel like idk who I am that am not in mi body that mi Soul is being sucked away I question everything mi life mi body I hate this I don't work or drive I hate myself I wanna give up I can't be a mom t mikids
Think long and hard why I gave you that advice. You had expressed that you had already spent thousands of dollars with other coaches. I hopped on a call with robin to share the journey I had and to offer others support free of charge. Let me know if I ever asked you for a single penny and also how many times did we talk?
Been there man, try to keep close to family if you can, I was lucky enough to have people around while I couldn’t function, keep watching these videos and soaking in the info, I really needed this stuff on repeat to hold on.. don’t feel guilty man, do what you need to do
In the video he says during recovery you get small breaks of dpdr and then it gets more. What exactly is happening that you get only small glimpse and not completely snap out of it?
Good Question, I believe that the brain is trying to get back to balance. The brain is designed for survival so at some point its going to try and get you into rest and digest versus fight or flight. I would get moments of clarity and would feel like my old self for like a minute or so and then because I would check in again on the scary thoughts I would cause more adrenaline dumps and right back into fight or flight. That's when I started to realize this is all thought based. My thoughts are causing the fear and the fear is causing all my symptoms including DPDR. My body is working as its supposed to but I'm constantly adding fear to my thoughts. With practice I slowly started to remove the fear from my thoughts and low and behold DPDR is completely gone and has not come back once since I've recovered fully. Recovery was gradual though I still had minor symptoms close to a year after recovery but I just stopped adding additional fear and my body found its balance again.
@Zamoxi what were ways you could shift your thoughts whenever everything felt not normal? Also did you suffer from eye floaters do they go away? What were things you used to do to relax your mind and recover?
@@ME-jf7ho I would shift thoughts by simply not giving them a deeper meaning. Over time it just became second nature. I stopped thinking that every thought i had mattered.. that every sensation was a cause for concern when in reality none of it mattered. I was in a loop, and every time i had existential thoughts or DPDR would come it would be the same exact symptoms every time. They would shift from time to time but at the end of the day nothing ultimately would happen to me that would put my actual life at risk. I was scaring myself essentially and the adrenaline and hormonal chemicals in my body were all due to fear. Yes I had eye floaters for a very long time, They are completely gone now lol. All of these symptoms are due to adrenaline and cortisol. Thats it.
@@Zamoxithank u for this bc it’s what i’m struggling with at the moment. did u struggle with existential thoughts like am i really real or what if i just die and u would just question ur existence like how do i see things, move, etc ? sometimes my own existence freaks me out
@@ylull Yup, this is very common when we are super anxious. Since the body is "checking us out" it feels weird because it is not our natural state. We know its an altered state that is caused by stress hormones. I would have all those same questions. It wasn't until I realized that every time I felt scared the pattern was always the same. Heightened sense of awareness as if I unlocked this new form of consciousness when in reality i was just really scared so i was more aware of everything including myself. Once I removed the fear, which took a while but I took baby steps to get there I realized that there was nothing special about me or my body... My body was doing it what its meant to be doing so my confidence in not being broken just got bigger and bigger with time.
10 years and counting. I gave up trying a few years ago. I've tried everything literally. All available manuals. I'm not even an anxious person by nature. I'm positive my brain has just shut down for good because of some kind of chemical imbalance. I'm depressed, anxious and dp'ed for no obvious reason so what to fix? Glad you're doing better, you deserve it.
the brain can recover regardless of how you might feel. I had this for 12 years and also was able to get out of the constant dissociation and constant cycle of ruminating on thoughts that don't matter. IF you feel its an actual chemical imbalance I would advice finding a good expert that can check not just your vitamins but also your mineral levels and create a plan to get those to normal if they aren't already.
@@Zamoxi Thanks for you reply. Honestly i dont know what it is. Some days i feel completely calm but still massive dp. Another day im extremely anxious but with minor dp. Like 8-10 days a year im almost completely free of it. I don't know why it go away and I don't know why it comes back. I can't find any pattern. All I know is, that most medications make it worse, especially SSRIs.
@@larspikke2 I think i might know what is keeping it around. When you are going through your day you are subconsciously asking yourself if you feel or are real. its become such a habit that you don't even realize its happening. When you do this your fear response gets triggered. Your brain keeps wondering and checking in with you for safety. Since you cant provide it you dissociate into DPDR. You would need to get to a point where you stop asking yourself those questions. they do not matter, they never have and they never will. The only thing that matters is what's in the present moment in front of you. The mind is all just things that we make up out of fear. We don't need to engage with any of it. Its hard at first but with practice I promise you can get there.
Hi Robin, in your course do you talk about how DPDR causes existential thoughts? Because my existential thoughts are very distressing to me. I’m going through lots of change in life at the moment, what with deciding on what university and course to do, and I feel stressed and often like I can’t visualise the future like I used to be able to. It all looks scary. Did you have this? Thank you for all you do ❤
Hi, I actually struggled with the same thing but when I was already in university and thinking more about what I was going to do with my life. Not knowing and picturing myself doing something I wouldn't love partially caused my existential crisis. It helped me to allow myself to go into a direction that was different and really focussing on where I found my purpose could lie (helping others in a way that felt good to me) you'll be okay :) you have your whole life to figure out what you want to do with it. We constantly change and evolve. There's no need to make the perfect decision. And yes, the course focusses a good deal on existential anxiety related to dpdr. Good luck to you!
I love this! I’ve dealt with the same things as y’all and it warms my heart that you’re helping people find peace, no matter where they are on their journey 😊
Hearing this guy talk about his experience makes me laugh because it’s the exact same thing as me it’s like a “holy shit I’m genuinely not alone”😭 even knowing that makes me feel so much better
Thank you, Robin! You have been an invaluable resource in my recovery!
You're so welcome! 😊
The brain forg and vision are my worst symptoms. Thank you so much for this i have had it for 2 years now and it really stems from my childhood and chronic anxiety. But i know it is lying to me and i am here and very much real.
Thank you for all your work Robin! You have helped me tremendously with my existential anxiety!
I'm happy to hear that!! Very welcome
Definitely, also:
1. Use less screens
2. Sleep more
3. Touch grass (do things with friends and family, externalize your thoughts and focus on the present
4. Try not to take any or too many drugs like caffeine or alcohol, strict weed prohibition of course
5. Accept (I 100% agree on that one)
6. Go to a doctor, do a full check and fully believe him (I 100% agree on that one)
Did anyone else get migraines and back of head and eyes pain with this ?????!!!!
Yes..I did... currently having them lol
DIZZINESS is the fucking worst thing. My DPDR started in 2007 and it's slowly gone down to maybe 20%, but recently it's been showing up again and it fucking sucks. I have to dial down my stress, get better sleep and do good to myself. Thanks for sharing your story man. It really helps me not feel alone.
for me what's worse is the confusion and restlessness and brainfog and it scares me
Really appreciated the sharing of Louis and he said he was open to supporting people. one on one. Is there an email for contacting him? Id love to talk with him about his fairh journey especially and getting over the anxiety dpdr. Thanks 🎉
I don’t understand, him and many other people claim it’s based off stress and anxiety yet I experience 0 anxiety or ANYTHING. No adrenaline,no fear, no stress..emotions wtf 😔
It may be because of some unrecognised trauma your body went on shut down mode..my sister had this ..she felt dpdr but without the feelings of anxiety and discomfort in the body... it's different for different people. But the want is the same. To get out of the dpdr.
He is great :)
Here im from childhood trauma i have severe health anxiety. I keep going to doctors or thinking im dying. I wonder if Luiz will be able to help.?
Same exact experience happened to me on shrooms, I also heard that voice telling me “God is not real” “there is no God”. This just threw me into a deep depression and anxiety specially because I’ve believed in him my whole life and it’s my safe place, and hearing that not coming form a person or a human voice was crazy and since then I’ve been stuck in DPDR. Is there any way I could get in contact with Luis, it would help me a lot
hey dude, i haven’t done shrooms but i cant imagine how terrifying that would be to hear. However, id suggest looking up stories of nde or near death experiences. People report a loving figure which honestly, I have no clue whether itd be god or not but it helped me a bit hearing their stories.
Hi Luis, thank you so much for sharing your story! I've had DPDR since I was 17, and i'm about to turn 19. I've been feeling very hopeless recently because I'll find a new method that work really well for a few days and then it goes back to the way it was. Do you have any tips for persistance? I think I really struggle with that, but I really resonated with you saying just to give up. I don't think i've done that yet but I will now.
Hey!! Thanks for the question. The goal is to simply not try new methods but accept everything for what it is. Not needing answers is part of letting go. Whenever a thought comes in that causes a physical symptom the goal is to label it as anxiety and refocus on what’s in front of you. Do this enough times you start to notice the symptoms fade more and more. We are teaching ourselves that we do not need an answer to these fears but that we are okay with whatever comes and that alone removes a massive part of the tension that we build within ourselves.
@@Zamoxithanks heaps for sharing your story! I’ve had DPDR for a very very long time, and it’s so hard for me not to fear it. I socialise, go to gym, work etc and only watch anything on it once a month if that. So I haven’t allowed it to control my life but I always feel really insecure socially when it’s there and want it to go. How did you socialise and go to work when feeling so trippy practicing acceptance? And did you also meditate, do somatic therapy etc too? And did you have one on one therapy as well and if so for how long? Or do courses? I know Robin is an incredible therapist with great courses.
@@arianabliss9043 great question ariana, I simply stopped giving into the actual research of it even if it was the smallest amount. In your case youre doing it once a month. I challenge you to not even do that. I did try therapy for a very long time but i realized i always felt worst after the sessions. I learned that I was keeping my past traumas alive. I decided it was time to just let it all go in general. Not to question anything from my past. Slowly over time this worked for me. I started reframing my anxious thoughts as just that. Anxiety.. and I got to the point that the existential thoughts just felt like a complete waste of time.
@@Zamoxi- this video was so so helpful for me. Thank you for being so open! I’ve had insomnia for years but I’m realizing it is more about existential anxiety- at night there is no one to distract me from my negative/ scary thought patterns. I also found that traditional therapy exacerbated things because it encourages thinking.
Did you work with anyone or any resources to get better? Do you work wait people? Would be great to have a person/ resource to work through this with!
@@Zamoxi thanks so much for sharing. Definitely worth considering your challenge, I think I keep one foot in the door in case some new treatment or medication or technique that helps but you are right it’s just installing messages of unsafety in the body.
The video is great and made me feel some hope, and I want to follow this advice, but I just can't bring myself to trust. Could one of you please give some help? I know Luis said that you're not special and everybody has a lot of the same thoughts, but I didn't hear anybody ever talking about mine. One of my biggest thoughts right now is that life is so unfair, therefore I don't see any reason to live. I start thinking things like: why would I believe life is good when for so many people it's horrible? there's people dying all the time, we lose our loved ones. Not to mention that in the past we used to have slaves, people would just be born and... just be slaves and die? why would I enjoy the things I want to enjoy? I am not religious and I can't get over the fact that if I was born in another country/time I could have been a slave, or even died very young. What god would let that happen? Worst of all, I feel like DPDR might be giving me a perspective I wouldn't otherwise have, and that I would otherwise ignore. Sure I am not scared of these things when I have moments of clarity but I fear it might be because I simply can't see how bad things actually are. I recognize in a way my thoughts can sound silly but they feel scary to me
Another thing I wanna add is, if having DPDR recovery means I could or not recover, and in the end, I do end up recovering and it's just an illness, then what about all the other people that can't recover and suffer so much? sure it can be a gift, but someone that has dpdr and then just dies randomly? I wouldn't say that's a gift for them. And one more thing about god, I can not bring myself to trust there is one also because us humans talk about him like he's in the human form, therefore I conclude it's just our minds creating this because we are desperate
Hey, im 22 years 24/7 with no breaks with DPDR. How do you feal with going far from home? Im from the U.K and ment to be travelling to France for a few days with my children, ive missed out on a holiday last year because of my DPDR and missed memories with my children so i have to go on this one, but my DPDR is just so bad and constant and gets even worse at night. Any suggestions as to what i can do when going to another country?
Thanks for your help xxx
I feel like idk who I am that am not in mi body that mi Soul is being sucked away I question everything mi life mi body I hate this I don't work or drive I hate myself I wanna give up I can't be a mom t mikids
This same dude told me not to waste money on coaches on here but yet is on here with a coach 😂
Think long and hard why I gave you that advice. You had expressed that you had already spent thousands of dollars with other coaches. I hopped on a call with robin to share the journey I had and to offer others support free of charge. Let me know if I ever asked you for a single penny and also how many times did we talk?
how to deal with the insomnia and the next day symptoms?
Been there man, try to keep close to family if you can, I was lucky enough to have people around while I couldn’t function, keep watching these videos and soaking in the info, I really needed this stuff on repeat to hold on.. don’t feel guilty man, do what you need to do
In the video he says during recovery you get small breaks of dpdr and then it gets more. What exactly is happening that you get only small glimpse and not completely snap out of it?
Good Question, I believe that the brain is trying to get back to balance. The brain is designed for survival so at some point its going to try and get you into rest and digest versus fight or flight. I would get moments of clarity and would feel like my old self for like a minute or so and then because I would check in again on the scary thoughts I would cause more adrenaline dumps and right back into fight or flight. That's when I started to realize this is all thought based. My thoughts are causing the fear and the fear is causing all my symptoms including DPDR. My body is working as its supposed to but I'm constantly adding fear to my thoughts. With practice I slowly started to remove the fear from my thoughts and low and behold DPDR is completely gone and has not come back once since I've recovered fully. Recovery was gradual though I still had minor symptoms close to a year after recovery but I just stopped adding additional fear and my body found its balance again.
@Zamoxi what were ways you could shift your thoughts whenever everything felt not normal? Also did you suffer from eye floaters do they go away? What were things you used to do to relax your mind and recover?
@@ME-jf7ho I would shift thoughts by simply not giving them a deeper meaning. Over time it just became second nature. I stopped thinking that every thought i had mattered.. that every sensation was a cause for concern when in reality none of it mattered. I was in a loop, and every time i had existential thoughts or DPDR would come it would be the same exact symptoms every time. They would shift from time to time but at the end of the day nothing ultimately would happen to me that would put my actual life at risk. I was scaring myself essentially and the adrenaline and hormonal chemicals in my body were all due to fear. Yes I had eye floaters for a very long time, They are completely gone now lol. All of these symptoms are due to adrenaline and cortisol. Thats it.
@@Zamoxithank u for this bc it’s what i’m struggling with at the moment. did u struggle with existential thoughts like am i really real or what if i just die and u would just question ur existence like how do i see things, move, etc ? sometimes my own existence freaks me out
@@ylull Yup, this is very common when we are super anxious. Since the body is "checking us out" it feels weird because it is not our natural state. We know its an altered state that is caused by stress hormones. I would have all those same questions. It wasn't until I realized that every time I felt scared the pattern was always the same. Heightened sense of awareness as if I unlocked this new form of consciousness when in reality i was just really scared so i was more aware of everything including myself. Once I removed the fear, which took a while but I took baby steps to get there I realized that there was nothing special about me or my body... My body was doing it what its meant to be doing so my confidence in not being broken just got bigger and bigger with time.
10 years and counting. I gave up trying a few years ago. I've tried everything literally. All available manuals. I'm not even an anxious person by nature. I'm positive my brain has just shut down for good because of some kind of chemical imbalance. I'm depressed, anxious and dp'ed for no obvious reason so what to fix? Glad you're doing better, you deserve it.
the brain can recover regardless of how you might feel. I had this for 12 years and also was able to get out of the constant dissociation and constant cycle of ruminating on thoughts that don't matter. IF you feel its an actual chemical imbalance I would advice finding a good expert that can check not just your vitamins but also your mineral levels and create a plan to get those to normal if they aren't already.
@@Zamoxi Thanks for you reply. Honestly i dont know what it is. Some days i feel completely calm but still massive dp. Another day im extremely anxious but with minor dp. Like 8-10 days a year im almost completely free of it. I don't know why it go away and I don't know why it comes back. I can't find any pattern. All I know is, that most medications make it worse, especially SSRIs.
@@larspikke2 I think i might know what is keeping it around. When you are going through your day you are subconsciously asking yourself if you feel or are real. its become such a habit that you don't even realize its happening. When you do this your fear response gets triggered. Your brain keeps wondering and checking in with you for safety. Since you cant provide it you dissociate into DPDR. You would need to get to a point where you stop asking yourself those questions. they do not matter, they never have and they never will. The only thing that matters is what's in the present moment in front of you. The mind is all just things that we make up out of fear. We don't need to engage with any of it. Its hard at first but with practice I promise you can get there.
Hi Robin, in your course do you talk about how DPDR causes existential thoughts? Because my existential thoughts are very distressing to me. I’m going through lots of change in life at the moment, what with deciding on what university and course to do, and I feel stressed and often like I can’t visualise the future like I used to be able to. It all looks scary. Did you have this?
Thank you for all you do ❤
Hi, I actually struggled with the same thing but when I was already in university and thinking more about what I was going to do with my life. Not knowing and picturing myself doing something I wouldn't love partially caused my existential crisis. It helped me to allow myself to go into a direction that was different and really focussing on where I found my purpose could lie (helping others in a way that felt good to me) you'll be okay :) you have your whole life to figure out what you want to do with it. We constantly change and evolve. There's no need to make the perfect decision.
And yes, the course focusses a good deal on existential anxiety related to dpdr.
Good luck to you!
@@robinschindelka2117 thank you for your response :)